tch, who needs Celes anyway?

[Jowy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HuGPzHN9wA

So theoretically, would Mog join twice, or what?

[NeoCracker]

That is the greatest glitch ever.

[theundeadhero]

I do. I need her. Her silken blonde hair. The smell of her perfume. Where has she left me :whimper:

[Mirage]

Celes > Mog.
This doesn't look good though. Remove previous bugs, make new ones.

[Zeromus]

Lol xD... She has to have eaten something really strange to have that aspect... =/
Or maybe the armor shop was selling off the Moogle Suits at 50 gp the pair... xD

But i wonder where did she get the phantom suit that makes here invisible ... i want to order one too...

Oh lol... they have to arrange that... i don't use Celes but is annoying to see Mog there on her place...

[Jowy]

Also yeah, Celes can get perfect mblock so <3 for her.

But apparently we can evade and be blinded now!

[Jowy]

[20:23] &lt;@Jowy|FFVIA> can I double-post in a thread?
[20:24] &lt;@Jowy|FFVIA> in the FFVI forum
[20:24] &lt;@Roowy> ok

So the glitch carries over to the GBA cartridge. The problem though is that Tunnel Armor is damn near impossible without Celes.

[Avarice-ness]

[20:23] &lt;@Jowy|FFVIA> can I double-post in a thread?
[20:24] &lt;@Jowy|FFVIA> in the FFVI forum
[20:24] &lt;@Roowy> ok

So the glitch carries over to the GBA cartridge. The problem though is that Tunnel Armor is damn near impossible without Celes.

ROO'S WORD IS LAW!

Oh and those silly mogs torching cities. > >

Celes is win. :razz:

[Zeromus_X]

An all-moogle party. <3

[Fuuinashi]

[20:23] <@Jowy|FFVIA> can I double-post in a thread?
[20:24] <@Jowy|FFVIA> in the FFVI forum
[20:24] <@Roowy> ok

So the glitch carries over to the GBA cartridge. The problem though is that Tunnel Armor is damn near impossible without Celes.

Just crack a Thunder Rod on Tunnel Armor's head o.O

[Zeromus_X]

Can you get Thunder Rods that early in the game? O_o

[Fuuinashi]

The Tincture chest from the northwest stairs changes to a Thunder Rod during Locke's Scenario.

All the chests in that cave upgrade up to the World of Ruins.

[Zeromus_X]

Oh wow, I knew they upgraded in the World of Ruin, but not that early. xD I learn something new about the game each time I play it...

[vorpal blade]

But it's not Celes. It's Mogtan, pretending to be her, but no one seems to notice. Should she be insulted that people think she looks like a moogle?

[abrojtm]

That is pretty awesome. It's kind of like in Crystalis (which no one here probably remembers) you can get past people blocking doors using a similar trick.
The aftereffects of this glitch are pretty strange/cool though.

[Jowy]

Crystalis is my favorite NES game :monster:

[ljkkjlcm9]

Crystalis is my favorite NES game :monster:

Crystalis is the shyte!

but anyways, I kinda liked Celes, if only for her hotness opera outfit and such. MMM celes/terra hentai lawl

THE JACKEL

[abrojtm]

I've now been inspired to power up the NES. *Plays Crystalis*

I want to know what happens later in the game without Celes...

[Zeromus_X]

8.7 Kutan?
**********************************

Hardly a frequently asked question, I didn't know where else to stick it :\

[KUTAN-LINK]

Note that this entire section wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Novalia Spirit,
who really deserves a lot of credit for the discovery of this thing alone,
not to mention the over 100 bugs he found and the breaking down of the Mag
Roader puzzle.

Internet rumors speak of reviving Leo and/or acquiring Kappa the Imp. Reviving
Leo is impossible and Kappa is just an Imped character with the Kappa name and
a set of equipment you give to him. No, the only character that comes close to
somehow being the 15th character is Kutan, one of the minor Moogles who helped
you defend Terra! How is this possible? Read on.

You never really acquire Kutan at any point of the game. Rather, you allow the
game to reach for a character you were supposed to have but never did. In
Locke's scenario, the trick is to leave South Figaro *without* saving Celes
from her terrible fate. Obviously, this isn't normally possible as you at the
very least need the Clock Key to continue, which you can't get until you
release Celes.

But you don't have go that far. You know the 'scram, you blockhead' soldier
that was chasing Locke at the very beginning of the scenario and continued to
promptly forget about him? We have to pass him. We do this by exploiting a
poorly coded aspect of the game. We'll have to send both Locke and the trooper
at the same tile. If this succeeds, Locke passes *through* the trooper and is
free to leave South Figaro. Sadly, the game normally prevents this. However,
if you enter the menu screen, leave it and immediately try to possess the same
tile the trooper is going for, it'll work. It might fail a few times, but it
does work. If you want to, you can enter the tunnel you were supposed to enter
with Celes from the other side by entering the hidden back door in the house
of Duncan's Wife; this'll get you the treasure contained here. Make sure not
to wander OUT of this basement on the other side; you can't get back in without
the Clock Key, which you can't get without recruiting Celes.

Now, the second part of the problem lies in Locke having to fight through the
Cave of Figaro by himself and defeating TunnelArmr by himself, a battle which
is scripted and was designed to require the Runic skill which you lack now.
You'll have to powerlevel a little or abuse the Thunder Rod in the chest if
you want to make it through here.

This is the first time Kutan will make a small appearance; it will be him who
will do the 'Something's coming outta the wall!!' line. During the battle, no
name will be shown when the Runic speech is given (Just you watch, etc.).

Back in Narshe, Locke will appear with a comrade, but it's not Celes; Kutan,
Moogle sprite and all, will appear and do everything Celes does. Do the
expressions, say the lines, etcetera.

KUTAN: I'm a soldier, not some love-starved twit!
EDGAR: Cold as ice......

While preparing for Kefka's Raid on Narshe, it turns out Kutan hasn't changed
a bit; his level hasn't risen, his equipment and Relics is still off-limits,
he still has a MithrilBlade and a Buckler and nothing else and he's in the same
state you left him. You can't take him to the Save Point; the character you're
controlling immediately resets back to Terra and Kutan enters the line of
characters again. In the line of characters, by the way, Kutan momentarily
changes his Moogle sprite for the Celes one.

After the battle, Kutan is normally choosable in your party, although he walks
around like Celes in the room. Kutan doesn't appear in shop screens either.
You can just go on with the game until the Opera House; Kutan will change into
Maria's opera gown and get the normal opera Celes sprite. Also, his equipment
will be removed, which is bad as you can never get it back on. After that,
he's given the normal Celes sprite. It's still Kutan though.

The story continues, and at the Imperial MagiTek Research Facility Kutan is
taken from you, not to be returned until you gain access to the Floating
Continent. It's at this point that you can finally return to South Figaro and
try to find Celes there; the game will lock up as soon as you pass the room
where Celes is getting a beating. Locke (whether he is in your party or not)
will say his line, and screen will switch to the room, and stop proceeding
there.

If you don't bring Kutan to the FC, he'll join you there to stop Gestahl. He
and Shadow fail, you make a run for it, kaboomchy, WoR.

Kutan wakes up in the WoR, from which points it's all Kutan until the end. The
only noteworthy effect Kutan has on the WoR is Gogo missing Runic is an option.

Ofcourse, Kutan is a consistently poor character to fight with. He joins you in
the middle of the Narshe Raid at a very low level, his equipment consists of a
MithrilBlade and a Buckler and cannot be changed until he Opera House from
which point he's entirely naked, he doesn't have any skills, he can't equip
Relics, he can't equip Espers and learn or use Magic and his stats are
extremely poor:

Vigor 16
Speed 14
Stamina 12
Magic Power 33
Battle Power 21
Defense 44
Magic Defense 29
MBlock 5
Evade 7

But still, it's absolutely hilarious to see Locke go protective on Kutan, have
a Moogle lament 'her' position in the Empire and 'her' history as a Magic
wielder, and have Owzer claim 'she' looks exactly like Maria.

[Necronopticous]

By the way, it's Moghan for the US release.

Also, it's notable that you can also keep Locke's merchant or imperial cadet sprite if you want.