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Peter_20
02-01-2007, 10:08 PM
I sometimes get ideas like this, and I think it's very fun, especially if you feel that everything makes sense and sounds good.
A while ago I invented my own letters, and I named the language "Teniorella" (Eternal Brook), which is a combination of the words "tenia" (eternal) and "ella" (brook).
This is because the letters have a pretty slender look, and they remind a lot of common script.
I also have a second name for the language, "Lumilauro" (Blue Fire), which is a compound of "lumio" (blue) and "lauro" (fire, flame) since I wrote the first characters using a blue fountain pen. :cool:
I'm pretty satisfied with these words for now, although I'll probably change them sooner or later. XD

Anyway, did you ever do this? :)
It's very fun if you really get on with it, it simply is creatively entertaining.

Rye
02-01-2007, 10:11 PM
No, but it'd be awfully fun. :]

Tempest
02-01-2007, 10:12 PM
I did that with a friend once. That lasted all but a day and it was about 10 years ago, so I'll be darned if I can remember any of it. :)

LoveArya
02-01-2007, 10:14 PM
me and my friends did in like, 2nd grade......we thought we were so clever:D

themagicroundabout
02-01-2007, 10:15 PM
No. I have never done that.

Vikeve
02-01-2007, 10:30 PM
I remember I did that when I was younger it lasted for one day.... Then we decided to make a secrete cod when passing notes but we kept on adding rules to make everything completely ridiculouse so we couldn't understand each other so we gave up on it after two days.

My family created the "ag language" where you add and ag after every vowel it sounded so cool becuase my aunt and uncle knew it perfectly and could get into big conversations with each other by doing that and they would do it so fast I couldn't even understand what they were talking about. I think I'll try to learn that.:)

~*~Celes~*~
02-01-2007, 10:55 PM
I use typos and mis-speakings to make my own language =]

Nominus Experse
02-01-2007, 11:03 PM
Over the of my lifetime, I have made a few languages, though they never became too complex, and most were a simple encryption of the English language rather than full-fledged languages.

The creation of the various symbols used to depict the written form was what lured me most, since I am freak about ancient lore and mystical-looking... things.

I am tempted to create a true language, but I think it may be best to actually learn a real one (such as French or German) rather than creating my own.

I find the creative process to be quite fun.

Laddy
02-01-2007, 11:08 PM
By'heine syrume l'leleane' mymishda jiosjia binbongoy. (Translation: Yes, Sivvenananananananan.

Tavrobel
02-01-2007, 11:10 PM
No, but learning languages that are unique to each internet game is way more fun. It's already enough of a hassle to handle Tolkien, slang, and this little number: cscrip perflw pb 3soj legit 4 10hr

Grendal
02-01-2007, 11:14 PM
One too many times. I really love linguistics. The first one I invented was a very simple alphabet with a Latin / French phonology. It didn't get very far, though. I then scrapped the idea in favor of a more complex alphabet involving unified characters. (think Hangul) I think I still have it somewhere...

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/2139/nevusqw1.png

The first set of letters are raw forms, while the rest are unified.

rubah
02-01-2007, 11:15 PM
I have a bunch of cyphers

Rengori
02-01-2007, 11:48 PM
Oh-nay, ut-bay e-way orrowed-bay iss-thay un-way in-way ifth-fay ade-gray.

Peter_20
02-01-2007, 11:50 PM
Oh-nay, ut-bay e-way orrowed-bay iss-thay un-way in-way ifth-fay ade-gray.Uh, yes, exactly... hm...

oddler
02-01-2007, 11:57 PM
I've made a couple characters before but never anything in-depth enough to actually be called a language.

Agrias
02-02-2007, 12:21 AM
i dont make up my own language but sometimes i want to say something like " i want to go bike riding" and i end up mixing in greek with english and switching words around so it ends up like this, " thelo to go rike biding" ha....yup i'm done.

vorpal blade
02-02-2007, 05:15 AM
Yes I did! It was a bit primitive perhaps, and had a large amount of compound words, but it existed. I even made up a world in which they lived, complete with countires, social classes, and ancient histories comprised of the various other attepts I had like this. I also had a 36 character alphabet derived from sign language letters. It was awesome, and I still use it a little, primarily as an ancient or sometimes elven language in my games. Cool thing was, my name (eric) meant "meteor" (eh= up, sky, and such+ rrahk=rock. sky rock= meteor).

I'm going to add to my post in saying that in addition to the 36 letters (about 11 vowels) I had fiddled with a typre of "condensed" writing in which the vowels were paired with consanants to make syllablistic characters.

Christmas
02-02-2007, 07:16 AM
Just take a look at some newbies around here, they have a lot of languages of their own. :bigsmile:

foxterneil
02-02-2007, 11:57 AM
Yes, Well my friends? They have this language called Bog Language.
It's strange. I was in the city with them before and when they wanted to talk about me (they were girls, i liked one of them) they'd use the language and I'd be like :mad: And it's something to do with "ag" between some letters cause they used to always say "hage" (he) so i knew it was me they were talking about. I just hope it wasn't bad ¬.¬
:p

Faris
02-02-2007, 11:59 AM
Yes, but I still don't understand what I'm saying.

Captain Maxx Power
02-02-2007, 05:38 PM
Ne Gad, vet ne wrarst ysed to.

Chloe.
02-02-2007, 06:29 PM
Everyone used to do that at school! Well, all the girls did and they thought they were well cool. :bigsmile:

I didn't though. :(

Iceglow
02-02-2007, 07:11 PM
When writing my own stories some of which are fast approaching novel length I have to sometimes come up with languages, I use latin as a huge influence also sometimes greek, russian and norse can come in to it. Other languages are just a major mess about with grammar structure and letter formation.

I also once sat there with 2 friends on a bus just making up a language based on how goldfish open their mouths to breathe in water. This language by the end of our 50 minute journey was completely formed and we could actually understand each other in it to an extent (the rest we guessed at based on body language) sadly I don't speak to either of the people who first made the language now but I have used that language in a very cheesy but successful chat up line (the only one I have used where I have had 100% success rate with it).

The only thing with languages is that you gotta make sure you understand it's grammar structure all to often writers will try making a language only to break the grammar rules of their own language and fall flat on their face when trying to convince the reader it is a language.

Owen Macwere
02-02-2007, 07:29 PM
I tried to invite a language for a story I was writting. I made the letters and everything, but they were so complex that even I couldn't write them sometimes. xD
I remember some words I invited in it.
Heaven: Horina
Hell: Axelon
Door: Dwesh
And some more, they were for a riddle contained in the story to kill a monster. lol
And yes, it was fun. Good old days.

GeneralSapphire
02-02-2007, 08:18 PM
i make up words and occasionally make up a made up word sentence, but never a language

Shlup
02-02-2007, 08:36 PM
Why would I invent my own language when there are so many other ones that people actually use? Talk about wasted effort. Pfffffft.

escobert
02-02-2007, 08:56 PM
My dad and I use to babble on in strange noises and stuff. Who knows.

Jojee
02-02-2007, 09:27 PM
Nevaire. ^^

Polaris
02-02-2007, 09:29 PM
Well I actually did make one but it was just for my book! :p I thought it'd be cool if the characters sometimes started to speak another language so I mixed portuguese, english and german! :D The result is a bit of arabic with japanese! :laughing:

Madonna
02-02-2007, 09:46 PM
Devising your own cipher is one thing, devising a language is another. They can go hand in hand, but they can be exclusive.

Had I my camera on hand, I could take a picture of a cipher that I made once upon a time. I considered using the scanner to get an example, but I would have to cut things up, and that does not fly with me.

BarelySeeAtAll
02-02-2007, 09:56 PM
whenever i talk, other people look at me as though im speaking foreign, so, yeah, different and clearly very made up lingo

kikimm
02-02-2007, 10:47 PM
I never really invented an actual language of my own, but back in elementary school when I was about 7/8, I was friends with another Kristina and a Christina. So we just started talking in like gibberish one day, and pretended that we understood what the other two were saying. It was very odd. It went on for a long time, too.

Xander
02-02-2007, 11:09 PM
the language of BOCKSU. mostly putting u's on the end of words, mainly a change of spellings, eg. yew, mistu, I forgot the rest but yeah. sox and ficks also.

Rocket Edge
02-03-2007, 05:20 PM
ksahdifg7bwqsad'eriufh weklfh4rh wquikhfds12r wilq900hegqfg - (no).

vorpal blade
02-04-2007, 12:43 AM
I have a piece of paper from a long time ago. It had a map of our old backyard with a type of writing on it I made up./ The other side of the paper has a totally different tpye of writing that I can't decipher, despite my best efforts.

Bart's Friend Milhouse
02-04-2007, 11:35 AM
I'm curently tryin 2 leArN dA linnGuo of n00bs :mog: :choc: :moomba: :choc2: :choc:

No.78
02-04-2007, 12:08 PM
I made up a language that was basically backwords words simplified.

So that sentence would be...

I edam pu a eganal tath saw yallicisab drowkabs drows defilpmis.

:bigsmile:

Lawr
02-04-2007, 12:18 PM
Broomish and Pig Latin is are all I need.

Dr Aum
02-04-2007, 03:51 PM
I make up words based on Greek/Latin/German/&c morphemes or based on existing words and then a vowel shift or what have you to make it seem as though it evolved naturally. Nothing that could really be considered a language, though.

E.g. "consoirred" is the past tense of a constructed word meaning "to have an intimate discussion," from "con-" ("cum"), "with" in Latin, plus "suwaru," "to sit" in Japanese, which has been assimilated into French and then into English. It's not the best example, but you get the idea. I primarily use these sorts of word in poetry.

Mirage
02-04-2007, 04:04 PM
I did that once in 6th grade or something, with a friend of mine. I only remember one word now, but I don't remember what it was supposed to mean. We had so much fun asking other pupils if they were "insert made up word here".

Christmas
02-04-2007, 04:15 PM
trhtrhth54h35g0m45gm45gm34f0m23fdol,230f,l230f,23f,34ofgm,349gm54gm54gm54gm54g9045mg95kg05g,54g0,45g 0,540g,l540g,450g,540g,540,
trhtrhth54h35g0m45gm45gm34f0m23fdol,230f,l230f,23f,34ofgm,349gm54gm54gm54gm54g9045mg95kg05g,54g0,45g 0,540g,l540g,450g,540g,540,
trhtrhth54h35g0m45gm45gm34f0m23fdol,230f,l230f,23f,34ofgm,349gm54gm54gm54gm54g9045mg95kg05g,54g0,45g 0,540g,l540g,450g,540g,540,
trhtrhth54h35g0m45gm45gm34f0m23fdol,230f,l230f,23f,34ofgm,349gm54gm54gm54gm54g9045mg95kg05g,54g0,45g 0,540g,l540g,450g,540g,540,
trhtrhth54h35g0m45gm45gm34f0m23fdol,230f,l230f,23f,34ofgm,349gm54gm54gm54gm54g9045mg95kg05g,54g0,45g 0,540g,l540g,450g,540g,540,
trhtrhth54h35g0m45gm45gm34f0m23fdol,230f,l230f,23f,34ofgm,349gm54gm54gm54gm54g9045mg95kg05g,54g0,45g 0,540g,l540g,450g,540g,540,

This means "hello"! :bigsmile:

Yar
02-04-2007, 08:26 PM
I love linguistics and I am taking both Spanish and German in high school. I actually am working off and on on a language. Let me give you a taste.

ALPHABET:
AÆBCDÊËFGHÎÏJKLMNÔÖŒPRSTÛÜVZß

PRONUNCIATION VARIANTS (from English):
A-ah (as in awful)
Æ-aa (as in the Mid-Western pronunciation of bat)
C-ch (as in cheese)
Ê-e (as in chase)
Ë-eh (as in every)
G-g (always as in grand)
Î-ee (as in bee)
Ï-ih (as in wrist)
J-y (as in you)
Ô and Ö - oh (as in oh)
Œ-uh (as in crush)
Û-oo (as in beautiful)
Ü-w (as in wish)
ß-sh (as in shut)
Dzj-[hard] j (as in judgment)
Zj-[soft] j (as mirage)
Dß-[hard] th (as in this)
Tß-[soft] th (as in theory)

NOUN GENDER AND PLURALIZATION:

.....Singular......|.....Plural.....
M/N.....e..........|.....er........
F.........en........|.....ern......

I'm still working on verb conjugation and a lexicography.

vorpal blade
02-05-2007, 07:39 AM
trhtrhth54h35g0m45gm45gm34f0m23fdol,230f ,l230f,23f,34ofgm,349gm54gm54gm54gm54g90 45mg95kg05g,54g0,45g0,540g,l540g,450g,54 0g,540,
trhtrhth54h35g0m45gm45gm34f0m23fdol,230f ,l230f,23f,34ofgm,349gm54gm54gm54gm54g90 45mg95kg05g,54g0,45g0,540g,l540g,450g,54 0g,540,
trhtrhth54h35g0m45gm45gm34f0m23fdol,230f ,l230f,23f,34ofgm,349gm54gm54gm54gm54g90 45mg95kg05g,54g0,45g0,540g,l540g,450g,54 0g,540,
trhtrhth54h35g0m45gm45gm34f0m23fdol,230f ,l230f,23f,34ofgm,349gm54gm54gm54gm54g90 45mg95kg05g,54g0,45g0,540g,l540g,450g,54 0g,540,
trhtrhth54h35g0m45gm45gm34f0m23fdol,230f ,l230f,23f,34ofgm,349gm54gm54gm54gm54g90 45mg95kg05g,54g0,45g0,540g,l540g,450g,54 0g,540,
trhtrhth54h35g0m45gm45gm34f0m23fdol,230f ,l230f,23f,34ofgm,349gm54gm54gm54gm54g90 45mg95kg05g,54g0,45g0,540g,l540g,450g,54 0g,540,

Am I the only one that actually translated that?

Little Blue
02-05-2007, 07:52 AM
I've invented a couple ciphers that I then tried to code a translation program in visual basic. I didn't get very far :p

I've never created my own language though, sounds like hard work.

vorpal blade
02-05-2007, 10:59 PM
What's the best (quickest) way to decode a language that consists of letter-swaps?

Renmiri
02-06-2007, 03:26 AM
What's the best (quickest) way to decode a language that consists of letter-swaps?

Those are simple substitution cyphers and are easily decoded using the method Holmes use in the mystery of the dancing man.

What would most people make of this childish-looking scrawl ?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Dancing_men.png

Holmes quickly realizes that it is a substitution cipher. Through much brainwork, he cracks the code by frequency analysis.

Frequency analysis is based on the fact that, in any given stretch of written language, certain letters and combinations of letters occur with varying frequencies. Moreover, there is a characteristic distribution of letters that is roughly the same for almost all samples of that language. For instance, given a section of English language, E tends to be very common, while X is very rare. Likewise, ST, NG, TH, and QU are common pairs of letters (termed bigrams or digraphs), while NZ and QJ are rare

Holmes quickly found the little man for "E" since he knew it was a message in english: The symbol who appeared most on the messages was certainly an "E". By the same method he found other vowels and common pairs. Then he filled in the blanks and solved the case :)

You can do the same, using a frequency analysis software

PS: Another famous substitution cipher is the Al Bhed language

PPS: Create your own substitution cipher or use Al Bhed here (http://www.blogger-bee.com/virtualsoil/CGI/anycode.html)

Khaotic
02-06-2007, 03:37 AM
Wonder if you made your own language, every word in it as well, letters, everything needed to be legit, and you wanted to make it an official language, would the government laugh at you, or would they make it real? =O

vorpal blade
02-06-2007, 08:29 AM
Wonder if you made your own language, every word in it as well, letters, everything needed to be legit, and you wanted to make it an official language, would the government laugh at you, or would they make it real? =O

I think it would be like religion; get ebnough people to speak it, and they probably have to make a law saying that they have to.