300

[Deborah]

Is anyone else excited for it this Friday?

I can't wait!! :D

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[Mogi]

HELL YES!!!

Eh, I mean....

Yeha, it'll be pretty cool.

[Necronopticous]

<!--http://youtube.com/watch?v=0lW9gw5TwxE-->If you aren't excited for 300, you need to check yourself.

[Araciel]

imma seein it on sunday i think.

[Mitch]

I'm excited for violence!

[Roto13]

The story sucks. Like, seriously. It sucks.

It should be a good popcorn movie, though. Lots of violence. And full frontal male nudity, if it's at all faithful to the comics.

[Bunny]

Why does it suck?

[Roto13]

"Oh, we're going to fight this army and probably die"

*homoeroticism*

"For Sparta!"

*homoeroticism*

"Hey, they suck! Awesome!"

*violence and winning*

*king dies*

"lol wut?"

[Bunny]

That's a pretty short script. Is the rest just killing? Cause that's cool.

[Slothy]

Midnight showing tonight. I'll be dead tired by the time I get home, but it'll be so worth it.

[Roto13]

In the comics, it was about 2.5 issues of penises and 2.5 issues of killing.

[Jowy]

THIS SATURDAY ERIC WILL DINE IN HELL!

[Kossage]

Well, I have to say I'm excited about this movie. The trailers were kickass and Tyler Bates's score is surprisingly good with a nice mix of orchestra, choir, synths and electric guitar and bass among other things (and surprisingly enough there was some thematic development in the score as well as some really tender moments). And, of course, some of the choral tracks are simply awesome, reminding me at times of the choral magic of both Vangelis's Alexander score and Gabriel Yared's rejected Troy score. :D

The Battle of Thermopylae was one of the bits I really enjoyed in history class, and I'm also interested in finding out how faithful the movie is to Miller's comic which was inspired by those events. I do hope that Gerard Butler (Leonidas) doesn't disappoint me, though, but it's hard to judge his performance from trailers alone so I have to wait and see the movie. :)

[TyphoonThaReapa]

A'yo, I'll be there head first ya' heard me!!! Do ya'll think this is a good movie to bring a chick on a date? OH WELL!!!! WHO GIVES A DAMN!!!! SHE"S GOING TO SIT THERE AND WATCH THIS DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!:cool:

[Resha]

HOLY :skull::skull::skull::skull: YES I AM. :D It's been so hyped up by people that I have to absolutely band-wagon and make an opinion on it ;D I might go see it tomorrow. :) Can't wait! Proves to be deliciously violent and thrilling, with mucho old-fashioned killin'.

[Dreddz]

Ill happily be the first to say that this movie will suck.

[Madame Adequate]

Ill happily be the first to say that this movie will suck.

Your readiness to be completely and utterly wrong is endearing to us all. I'm sure Joel especially appreciates it :monster:

It's not out here until the 23rd. And people wonder why illicit downloads occur!

[escobert]

I'm more excited for the rest of my computer parts comming than this movie. But yeah I'm sure it'll be sweet and I would like to see it at some point.

[Nominus Experse]

My girlfriend failed to be intrigued or excited about this excuse for homoerotic violence movie; I then proceeded to take off my clothes and chase her off a cliff yelling "For Sparta!"

[TyphoonThaReapa]

My girlfriend failed to be intrigued or excited about this excuse for homoerotic violence movie; I then proceeded to take off my clothes and chase her off a cliff yelling "For Sparta!"


You just completly messed up the hype. What do you have to say for yourself?:eep:

[Ryth]

I'm certainly hoping it'll be good, I'll be seeing it soon enough. :)

[Nominus Experse]

My girlfriend failed to be intrigued or excited about this excuse for homoerotic violence movie; I then proceeded to take off my clothes and chase her off a cliff yelling "For Sparta!"


You just completly messed up the hype. What do you have to say for yourself?:eep:

Oh, dammit...I messed up where I put the strike-thru...

[TyphoonThaReapa]

My girlfriend failed to be intrigued or excited about this excuse for homoerotic violence movie; I then proceeded to take off my clothes and chase her off a cliff yelling "For Sparta!"


You just completly messed up the hype. What do you have to say for yourself?:eep:

Oh, dammit...I messed up where I put the strike-thru...


...I rest my case...:eep:

[Dreddz]

Ill happily be the first to say that this movie will suck.

Your readiness to be completely and utterly wrong is endearing to us all. I'm sure Joel especially appreciates it :monster:

And why exactly will this movie be good ? Flashy fights dont make a good movie. Especially when they seem to be the focus point of the entire film.

People thought the Matrix sequels would kick as after seeing a glimpse of the fights in it. Look how that turned out.

[Araciel]

yeh but the matrix fights actually weren't that good, flashy yes, good...not really

these aren't fights, it almost looks like iunno .. a war.

[Marshall Banana]

Pft, those men are way too buff. There doesn't seem to be any yummy eye candy here (maybe someone should deflate Gerard Butler)! =O

[Roto13]

My girlfriend failed to be intrigued or excited about this excuse for homoerotic violence movie; I then proceeded to take off my clothes and chase her off a cliff yelling "For Sparta!"

I lol'd.

[Madame Adequate]

Ill happily be the first to say that this movie will suck.

Your readiness to be completely and utterly wrong is endearing to us all. I'm sure Joel especially appreciates it :monster:

And why exactly will this movie be good ? Flashy fights dont make a good movie. Especially when they seem to be the focus point of the entire film.

No, it's not just about the fight scenes at all, although I could see why that was expected from the trailers. And anyway, it looks awesome because it looks like it's slightly more stylish than Sin City, and (With the exception of no BDSM Rosario Dawson, and no Bruce Willis) looks like it's better in pretty much every way. Which is kind of a big deal, seeing as Sin City is goddamn awesome.

Actually, why are fight scenes an invalid source of worth in a movie?

[Roto13]

And anyway, it looks awesome because it looks like it's slightly more stylish than Sin City, and (With the exception of no BDSM Rosario Dawson, and no Bruce Willis) looks like it's better in pretty much every way.

Except the story.

I really can't stress this enough.

[Nominus Experse]

If they didn't make any improvements to the story [of the comics], it's going to suck ass in that respect.


But I really don't care: I'm going to go watch this thing for all the sweat, blood, muscled men, screaming and roaring, and blue-screen eye-candy.

And Xerxes? That is some fucking eye-candy! He's like a giant shiny, metallic, heavily pierced gummy bear!

[Dreddz]

Actually, why are fight scenes an invalid source of worth in a movie?

Depends on what you like I guess, or what age you are. Im sure some will get a kick out of the fights, but some of us look deeper into a movie. If these fights arent backed up with a good story or acting, then its not worth my time.

[Ouch!]

Actually, why are fight scenes an invalid source of worth in a movie?

Depends on what you like I guess, or what age you are. Im sure some will get a kick out of the fights, but some of us look deeper into a movie. If these fights arent backed up with a good story or acting, then its not worth my time.
While some of us don't need to pick apart the deeper meanings of everything we watch and just watch it for the fun of it.

I'm seeing it tomorrow in IMAX. Win.

[Araciel]

totally, it's a movie about physical conflict, ie battle...and so that might be part of the reason people want to see it...crazy huh?

[Diango12]

The only thing thats skewered here is history

YAY hollywood

[Araciel]

:P skewered

[Shiny]

The movie looks terrific. Very artsy. Whoa...the trailer just came on T.V. as I was typing this. Anyway, I've been anticipating it for a while now and it will finally be showing. ^_^ Gerard Butler. :love:

[Araciel]

dood..that's creepy!

[Diango12]

Ok I just seen the trailer and I take it back. What I meant to say is history has been skewered in a horribly monstrous rage of absolute cosmos scale fiery hell for all eternity.

Now only god can save Persia and the Greeks.

Yay hollywood

[Madame Adequate]

Actually, why are fight scenes an invalid source of worth in a movie?

Depends on what you like I guess, or what age you are. Im sure some will get a kick out of the fights, but some of us look deeper into a movie. If these fights arent backed up with a good story or acting, then its not worth my time.

Haha, yes. If you sometimes enjoy mindless fun, you must be a child. If your mind isn't engaged in the arts or philosophies at all times, you're an imbecile.

thx4adhominem

[Araciel]

:P skewered

so it's not historical...nothing we make about that age could be historically accurate anyway, so why not take the theme and make it interesting?

[Diango12]

That’s a good point but the movie is far from just theme orientated, iam sorry but for a person who has studied history his whole life it pierces my heart to see such a farse. Now I don’t mean to drag this helpless thread into historical debate however I feel the need to let free a few facts.

First off there was a total of 300 Spartans, 700 Thespians and 6,000 other Greek allies brining the total to 7,000 defending Greeks not 300. The Persians numbered around 100,000 not on million (who ever believed that needs to just disregard this post and continue reading comics where this movie was drawn from).

Lastly they didn't beat the Persians it was thanks to the Greek defense but more importantly the Thespians (the last ones standing) not the Spartans.

I cant stress this enough the only reason 100,000 Persians were held back was because of two HUGE mountains surrounding the Greeks. Any army can hold off a superior army if all they had to do was defend a small opening surrounded by mountain(choke point).

In conclusion the Persians weren't defeated they were only delayed by what they considered a nuisance. Afterwards they plowed over the Greeks and advanced towards there goal...

Now I hear Vin Diesil is coming out with the movie about the famous general of Carthage “Hannibal The Conqueror”(The greatest and most brilliant General in history) now that is a true epic


;)

[Jowy]

Who cares about historical accuracy?

<font size="7">THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA</font>

[GooeyToast]

Does this mean that tonight we will dine in Hell?

[Necronopticous]

Tomorrow night, unless you got in for the midnight showing.

[Kossage]

That’s a good point but the movie is far from just theme orientated, iam sorry but for a person who has studied history his whole life it pierces my heart to see such a farse.

I've studied history as well, and it doesn't really matter to me how inaccurate this movie is as far as history goes, although it's understandable why some people might be offended by it. At least this movie says it's based on the comic which was inspired by the battle and doesn't claim that things actually happened that way (unlike, say, Kingdom of Heaven which changed quite a few details about certain events and certain characters to suit the movie, although in the end the movie still worked out well despite all the inaccuracies, especially the Director's Cut). So, I'm not expecting a movie similar to, say, The 300 Spartans, but a different movie altogether.

I'm most likely going to enjoy this movie both because of the way it seems to capture the spirit of the battle (albeit the whole thing seems very much exaggerated in the movie with all those monsters and huge armies and whatnot, but it isn't necessarily a bad thing) and yet has unique things that set it apart from reality. The visual style of the movie suggests this as well, and it looks like it'll be a real treat.


In conclusion the Persians weren't defeated they were only delayed by what they considered a nuisance. Afterwards they plowed over the Greeks and advanced towards there goal...

...until they got their asses handed back to them later on in the Battle of Salamis where the Greeks managed to turn the tide of the war (even though some argue that the Greeks might've lost the battle unless they had been tricked by one of their commanders who kind of forced them into a situation where the only option was to either fight or die; retreat was impossible). :p

It would actually be awesome if a modern epic movie centering around the Battle of Salamis was made. The use of CGI, epic score and good actors as well as breathtaking visuals and a good director and script writer might make it one of the most epic movies in recent times.


Now I hear Vin Diesil is coming out with the movie about the famous general of Carthage “Hannibal The Conqueror”(The greatest and most brilliant General in history) now that is a true epic.

I do hope that whatever movie we get about Hannibal will turn out to be a good one, because he was one of my favourites. I'll be expecting an epic similar to Gladiator, Alexander and Kingdom of Heaven (to mention a few recent examples). I'm just worried whether Vin Diesel is actually good enough, because so far the only good role he had was in The Iron Giant. But we'll see what happens. :)

[Resha]

I saw it today. Fucking brilliant. I mean, sure, if you're going to compare it to grand scale things like tLoTR, it's going to disappoint -- but go into it expecting something different, and you'll be THRILLED. To the bone. Some funny bits too (or maybe just me? :D)

[Diango12]

I've studied history as wellOnther history buff! :D


I'm most likely going to enjoy this movie<o>Movie?<o></o></o>
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THIS IS SALAAAMMISSSS :p


until they got their asses handed back to them later on in the Battle of Salamis <o>
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It's true they were sorely defeated in this battle but again it was only due to the nature of the terrain they were fighting in. The larger Persian ships could not maneuver and the even larger Phoenician ships the Persians were allied to had a harder time but because of the Phoenicians mastery of ship faring this dealt little problem to them and they advanced there fleet ramming the bunkers out of the Greeks. In fact the female admiral for the Phoenician's (to the Phoenicians/Carthaginians freedom was such at a great extent that woman were always in leadership positions such as queen dido of the Carthaginians) was the was the only among both the Greeks and Persians to show balls during the battle. Apparently after having skewered a Greek vessel (filled with Spartans) with her landing party she was forced into a "hasty retreat" by the encircling Greek flank and while she was backing off away from the battle she rammed and sunk 9 Greek vessels who thought they could get in her way.

In fact after the battle "Xerxes, sitting ashore upon his golden throne, witnessed the horror. He remarked that Artemisia was the only general to show any productive bravery by ramming nine Athenian triremes, saying, "My female general has become a man, and all my male generals- women." But your right afterwards the Phoenicians saw what panzy's the Persian’s can be and left.
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unlike, say, Kingdom of Heaven which changed quite a few details about certain events and certain characters to suit the movie, although in the end the movie still worked out well despite all the inaccuracies, especially the Director's Cut <o>
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<o>There wasn't any meddling with the historical facts as I saw. Certainty with some dialogue there were a few changes but the events?</o>


I do hope that whatever movie we get about Hannibal will turn out to be a good one, because he was one of my favourites.<o></o>


My absolute favorite as well, personally I would like to see the entire battle of cannae into one single film. The amount of detail they would be able to put in it would be awesome. And of course Hannibal smacking around an army five times his army's size (86,000 Roman legions) and then all together hand them there asses and taking only 6,000 casualties (this includes the men who got tired of kicking ass and deciding to sit this one out :P) is just pure amazement. Vin diesel having being the director however has got me worried.

[Ouch!]

I just got back from the movie. I don't have much to say that hasn't already been said except to suggest that, if at all possible, this movie should be watched in an IMAX theater. It's fantastic.

[Araciel]

almost all movies should be watched imax

[Diango12]

Well it looks like I'll be checking into a saint hospital soon.

Yup I just came back from watching the movie. I'm pretty much not impressed. It was completely identical to "Alexander" all I saw was alot of chest thumpin Greeks Yammering on "Arg were the Greeks were better then the Persian’s boo hoo there here to take our gay men away from us and enslave our glories city's that have 70% of the population already enslaved anyway and insult our woman as if we don't already bury them for not cutting there hair and blah blah etc etc..". In the end this film will make loads as a pride film in Greece little boys and girls in the theater will suddenly start giggling after the the mighty Spartans impale the terrible Persians while eating there apples" O_o

In short if you expected an epic don't count on it if you wanted something close to the remake of ninja turtles you’ll be ok. The only movie well worth its tribute was Troy now that was an epic. So far troy kept true to its objective and not became some pride film to distort history and cultures into monstrous hordes vs the angelic arch warriors :bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:if gte vml 1]><v:shapetype id="_x0000_t75" coordsize="21600,21600" o:spt="75" o:preferrelative="t" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" filled="f" stroked="f"> <v:stroke joinstyle="miter"/> <v:formulas> <v:f eqn="if lineDrawn pixelLineWidth 0"/> <v:f eqn="sum @0 1 0"/> <v:f eqn="sum 0 0 @1"/> <v:f eqn="prod @2 1 2"/> <v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelWidth"/> <v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelHeight"/> <v:f eqn="sum @0 0 1"/> <v:f eqn="prod @6 1 2"/> <v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelWidth"/> <v:f eqn="sum @8 21600 0"/> <v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelHeight"/> <v:f eqn="sum @10 21600 0"/> </v:formulas> <v:path o:extrusionok="f" gradientshapeok="t" o:connecttype="rect"/> <o:lock v:ext="edit" aspectratio="t"/> </v:shapetype><v:shape id="_x0000_i1025" type="#_x0000_t75" alt="" style='width:11.25pt; height:11.25pt'> <v:imagedata src="file:///C:/WINDOWS/TEMP/msoclip1/01/clip_image001.gif" o:href="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif"/> </v:shape><![endif]-->:bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:if !vml]-->:rolleyes2:bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:endif]-->

Have fun watching kids

[Raebus]

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In short if you expected an epic don't count on it if you wanted something close to the remake of ninja turtles you’ll be ok. The only movie well worth its tribute was Troy now that was an epic. So far troy kept true to its objective and not became some pride film to distort history and cultures into monstrous hordes vs the angelic arch warriors

Wait wait, your saying troy is GOOD? If so, your feeling okay? :(

and I can't wait to see it soon, you've all hyped it up so much.

[Yamaneko]

As a history scholar I don't know what my ethical duty is. Is it right to go see this movie which is obviously so plagued with historical inaccuracies? Someone tell me!

[Madame Adequate]

If you worry too much about real-world accuracy, you'll never have any fun.

[Necronopticous]

Is the concept of a completely fictional story inspired by actual historical documentation really that hard to understand, or that shameful to enjoy?

If you seriously have to ask yourself whether or not you can lower your standards enough to see it, definitely don't go.

I loved it. I got exactly what I was expecting. Could have done without the audience, but the movie itself was fantastic.

[Deborah]

Is the concept of a completely fictional story inspired by actual historical documentation really that hard to understand, or that shameful to enjoy?


I agree! It's based on a comic not actual history...so I don't understand why people are taking it as a historical documentary..

It was what I was expecting and I enjoyed it!! :D

[Bunny]

Stop whining and have some fun. Just because the movie isn't spot on with every single detail doesn't mean it isn't going to be a good movie. The facts and figures for the size of the Persian army has been written about and estimated a dozen times, where exactly are you getting your information and assurance that it was 100,000?

The estimation has been anywhere from 100,000 to an upwards of over 5 million, even though this isn't widely accepted as an honest truth. How are you going to sit here and tell everyone, as if it is some kind of fact, that your number is accurate? Where did you get such privileged information.

In short conclusion, shut up and stop whining. Go have fun. Go see sweaty, half-naked and competely naked men fight scary monsters and dine in hell. Because, when you get down to brass tax, this is all just madness.

[Slothy]

I agree Bunny. Diango12, you really went in with completely the wrong mind set. You don't go to a movie based on a comic that was never intended to be historically accurate, expecting it to be historically accurate.The comic and the film were never meant to be any more than they were. You got too caught up in inaccuracy and completely missed the fact that this is one beautiful film to watch. Every single scene is visually stunning, particularly the battle scenes.

Lighten up and try to enjoy something like this for what it is, not what you think it should be.

[Sergeant Hartman]

Looks like a bloodbath :cool:

[Nominus Experse]

History has little matter in a movie that was never once targeted as being historically accurate.

I'm going to watch this movie for some sweaty, bloody, naked man-joy, blue-screen fun. And I think that's why most are. Anyone who expects a history lesson is truly missing the point of this movie and the point is not that ornate...

OMG I really want to see this on the IMAX, but I have no car, and I don't know if I'm willing to hitch hike 140 miles just to see a movie...

[tidus_rox]

YAY 300 is going to be great. I cant wait to see it ^_^__V

[XxSephirothxX]

Is the concept of a completely fictional story inspired by actual historical documentation really that hard to understand, or that shameful to enjoy?

If you seriously have to ask yourself whether or not you can lower your standards enough to see it, definitely don't go.

I loved it. I got exactly what I was expecting. Could have done without the audience, but the movie itself was fantastic.
My sentiments exactly. I thought the people in my audience were going to be awful at first, but they quieted down for the most part and it ended up being fine.

[Kirobaito]

I just got back from seeing it, and it was pretty sweet. I thought that Leonidas's death was a little extravagant, as he would have died much sooner from an arrowhead in the chest, but I suppose that's not much compared to the other distortions of reality. A good movie, all-in-all. :p

[Cipher]

*delurk*

That was the best shamless two hours' worth of movie awesomeness I have had the pleasure to see in a long, long time. Completely devoid of plot and chock-full of beautiful violence, I would have absolutely no qualms with paying another 12 bucks to see it again.

By the way? Queen Gorgo = WINNER. And once you see the movie, you will know why.

*lurk mode once more*

[Peegee]

If a biopic or a movie based around a historic event but is inaccurate means a movie sucks, then Stanley Kubrick's 'Full Metal Jacket' is a terrible movie....and if you think this I have nothing further to discuss with you.

This movie is nothing more than a movie version of the comic book '300', which itself is inspired by the events of the Battle of Thermopylae.

Besides, the moment you saw 10 foot and 20 foot tall monsters the movie was over.

ps: I found it hilarious that even Elephants were toppled.

[nozkits]

*delurk*

That was the best shamless two hours' worth of movie awesomeness I have had the pleasure to see in a long, long time. Completely devoid of plot and chock-full of beautiful violence, I would have absolutely no qualms with paying another 12 bucks to see it again.

By the way? Queen Gorgo = WINNER. And once you see the movie, you will know why.

*lurk mode once more*
Holy crap you paid 12 bucks to see that movie?

Movie theators were I live only cost 5.25 USD to see a movie.. 3.75 USD if you come to an early showing...

Anyway this movie had no plot line what so ever. I would hate it, but I love its artistic style, and the violence oh yes the violence...

Children Of Men was just as good maybe better, but it was largely ignored, and hated...

[Peegee]

Why would you watch a movie with a coherent plot? Why not watch a play, or something with intellectual merit?

There are VERY FEW good hollywood movies. In fact I'd wager there are virtually nil good movies (nowadays). Violence in Hollywood is non-existent for fear of lack of return on investments. Comedy is bested by stand-up. Drama is relegated to chick flick status. Cartoons and CGI are by virtue of either culture or marketting a concept only children appreciate.

I watch movies in the theater/cinema only if I know it will be worth my money, and they are few and far between. I'll give new franchaises a chance -- my only exception to the 'rule'.

[nozkits]

Well it looks like I'll be checking into a saint hospital soon.

Yup I just came back from watching the movie. I'm pretty much not impressed. It was completely identical to "Alexander" all I saw was alot of chest thumpin Greeks Yammering on "Arg were the Greeks were better then the Persian’s boo hoo there here to take our gay men away from us and enslave our glories city's that have 70% of the population already enslaved anyway and insult our woman as if we don't already bury them for not cutting there hair and blah blah etc etc..". In the end this film will make loads as a pride film in Greece little boys and girls in the theater will suddenly start giggling after the the mighty Spartans impale the terrible Persians while eating there apples" O_o

In short if you expected an epic don't count on it if you wanted something close to the remake of ninja turtles you’ll be ok. The only movie well worth its tribute was Troy now that was an epic. So far troy kept true to its objective and not became some pride film to distort history and cultures into monstrous hordes vs the angelic arch warriors :bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:if gte vml 1]><v:shapetype id="_x0000_t75" coordsize="21600,21600" o:spt="75" o:preferrelative="t" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" filled="f" stroked="f"> <v:stroke joinstyle="miter"/> <v:formulas> <v:f eqn="if lineDrawn pixelLineWidth 0"/> <v:f eqn="sum @0 1 0"/> <v:f eqn="sum 0 0 @1"/> <v:f eqn="prod @2 1 2"/> <v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelWidth"/> <v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelHeight"/> <v:f eqn="sum @0 0 1"/> <v:f eqn="prod @6 1 2"/> <v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelWidth"/> <v:f eqn="sum @8 21600 0"/> <v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelHeight"/> <v:f eqn="sum @10 21600 0"/> </v:formulas> <v:path o:extrusionok="f" gradientshapeok="t" o:connecttype="rect"/> <o:lock v:ext="edit" aspectratio="t"/> </v:shapetype><v:shape id="_x0000_i1025" type="#_x0000_t75" alt="" style='width:11.25pt; height:11.25pt'> <v:imagedata src="file:///C:/WINDOWS/TEMP/msoclip1/01/clip_image001.gif" o:href="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif"/> </v:shape><![endif]-->:bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:if !vml]-->:rolleyes2:bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:endif]-->

Have fun watching kids

I agree with you. I went into this movie purely because I just wanted to see something with a great art style.. nothing else. Because its so inaccurate with history, and it over glorifies the greeks. Especially the Spartans, and made the Persians out to be some immoral evil empire........ Though all Empires, and super powers are immoral evil empires... I mean point being said.. Some of the language in the film reminded me of the current arrogant atitude that American polticians have, and how they do things to screw its continuents over, and how they say fi you are against this then you are unamerican. It reminded me of a patriotic morallity boost that just made me sick to my stomach.



Why would you watch a movie with a coherent plot? Why not watch a play, or something with intellectual merit?

There are VERY FEW good hollywood movies. In fact I'd wager there are virtually nil good movies (nowadays). Violence in Hollywood is non-existent for fear of lack of return on investments. Comedy is bested by stand-up. Drama is relegated to chick flick status. Cartoons and CGI are by virtue of either culture or marketting a concept only children appreciate.

I watch movies in the theater/cinema only if I know it will be worth my money, and they are few and far between. I'll give new franchaises a chance -- my only exception to the 'rule'.
Children of Men was a great production. Though it didn't come out of Hollywood.

Check out Idiocracy also because after watching it. I started to think about how we act today(in America)

[Peegee]

That’s a good point but the movie is far from just theme orientated, iam sorry but for a person who has studied history his whole life it pierces my heart to see such a farse. Now I don’t mean to drag this helpless thread into historical debate however I feel the need to let free a few facts.

First off there was a total of 300 Spartans, 700 Thespians and 6,000 other Greek allies brining the total to 7,000 defending Greeks not 300. The Persians numbered around 100,000 not on million (who ever believed that needs to just disregard this post and continue reading comics where this movie was drawn from).

Lastly they didn't beat the Persians it was thanks to the Greek defense but more importantly the Thespians (the last ones standing) not the Spartans.

I cant stress this enough the only reason 100,000 Persians were held back was because of two HUGE mountains surrounding the Greeks. Any army can hold off a superior army if all they had to do was defend a small opening surrounded by mountain(choke point).

In conclusion the Persians weren't defeated they were only delayed by what they considered a nuisance. Afterwards they plowed over the Greeks and advanced towards there goal...

Now I hear Vin Diesil is coming out with the movie about the famous general of Carthage “Hannibal The Conqueror”(The greatest and most brilliant General in history) now that is a true epic


;)

FYI I took your text and managed to create at 9 page troll thread over at the worldofwarcraft.com forums (in general chat)

Thank you.

[Cipher]

Holy crap you paid 12 bucks to see that movie?

Movie theators were I live only cost 5.25 USD to see a movie.. 3.75 USD if you come to an early showing...

Anyway this movie had no plot line what so ever. I would hate it, but I love its artistic style, and the violence oh yes the violence...

Children Of Men was just as good maybe better, but it was largely ignored, and hated...

Yup, 12 bucks USD. On a good day, I might pay something between 7 and 10 bucks. That's how it is in San Francisco, though. Cost of Living is ridiculous, and that extends to entertainment. For an evening at the movies, I end up paying something approaching 30 bucks total including movie nachos and drink. :cry:

By the way? I LOVED Children of Men. The ending was a bit lacking, but by golly it was the journey that made it so sweet.

[nozkits]

Holy crap you paid 12 bucks to see that movie?

Movie theators were I live only cost 5.25 USD to see a movie.. 3.75 USD if you come to an early showing...

Anyway this movie had no plot line what so ever. I would hate it, but I love its artistic style, and the violence oh yes the violence...

Children Of Men was just as good maybe better, but it was largely ignored, and hated...

Yup, 12 bucks USD. On a good day, I might pay something between 7 and 10 bucks. That's how it is in San Francisco, though. Cost of Living is ridiculous, and that extends to entertainment. For an evening at the movies, I end up paying something approaching 30 bucks total including movie nachos and drink. :cry:

By the way? I LOVED Children of Men. The ending was a bit lacking, but by golly it was the journey that made it so sweet.

lol I'm in oklahoma.... cost of living is cheaper .. Before moving here I was in Houston, and it was very very expensive, and wages didn't keep up......

Yea Children of Men was awesome. I loved how there wasn't a scene in the movie were the camera wasn't focussed on the main character.. The violence was realistic. I always argue with my floor mates telling them that warfare today is at its most brutal in human history. Then they go and use the whole arrow in your stomach gives you gangreen is more brutal..... Then I think to myself how outside the real world my floor mates are because After going to Iraq.. You can smell the charred bodies after a roadside bomb attack. YOu can see the gore, and blood. Being at OU I'm surprised they would say that seeing that there was a suicide bomber back in 2005.. But I suggested them to see Children of Men to get my point across lol..

[Lionx]

Haha this is hella late and i watched it Saturday last week too. But i enjoyed it alot, and i agree with someone posting about how awesome the Queen was. I remember everyone was clapping and cheering her after she killed that traitor that took advantage of her . Not to mention the Persian references i see in FFXI, and of course the action.

I didnt really quite mind the historical inaccuracies, thats just nitpicking really, you paid 10 bucks to watch this and i am going to enjoy it. Unlike Ghostrider <3

Cipher: You went to the Metreon to watch it right..? Only place i can think of with such insane prices.

[Shiny]

I just saw this movie a couple of hours ago. It was great and followed the Gates of Fire book accurately. Though, I thought alot of things were over exaggerated for cinematic reasons like previously said. All in all, it was enjoyable if you like stylistic fight sequences and historical references.

[ReloadPsi]

A bisexual pride movie, how can I refuse? Well, having no money (saving for the meetup too) tends to force me not to bother. Yet.

[Freya]

I heard that you're not a man till you see this movie, even if you are 40 years old. But If it makes me a man I don't want to go see it. I mean I like being female.

It looks cool though hopefully i'll see it tomorrow.

[Madame Adequate]

I heard that you're not a man till you see this movie, even if you are 40 years old. But If it makes me a man I don't want to go see it. I mean I like being female.

It looks cool though hopefully i'll see it tomorrow.

You will watch this movie and you will like being a man after you see it.

Although King Leonidas' Scottish lilt made me lol.

[Ashley Schovitz]

This movie was good, it started off slow, but from middle to end it was good. Were the Persians really like that, I was kind of confused i thought Persia was mnorely closely related to what I seen in Prince of Persia games.

[Madame Adequate]

This movie was good, it started off slow, but from middle to end it was good. Were the Persians really like that, I was kind of confused i thought Persia was mnorely closely related to what I seen in Prince of Persia games.

No, the Persians really were like that. Xerxes was nine feet tall for realies. :p

[Diango12]

Ok thats it!!!

I'm going to lay down a few simple facts about this movie:

1. Sparta was not a democracy!

2. The exaggeration that the Persian force was numbered at 1,000,000 or god forbid more is a fallacy. We have no real estimates from the time but we do know that a population quota from antiquity was way to meager to field an army of 100,000 men let alone 1,000,000.

3. Almost everything important about Agoge was left out in the movie. First I found the remark by king Leonidas that "If those Athenians boy lovers.." somewhat funny considering that in the Spartan tradition of Agoge there was a form of institutionalized pederasty. It was practiced whereby older warriors would engage a male youth in a long-lasting sex relationship. In other words "King Leonidas" got his but rumped! :mad2:!

Secondly again Sparta and Greece for that matter was no democracy: Slavery was essential throughout Ancient Greece. Most of the ancients considered it not only essential, but quite natural including the Stoics. In other words the Spartans were in no position to be claiming or declaring freedom! King Leonidas himself would have been required to kill a handful of 'unarmed' Helos(Greek Slaves) to conclude his training.

Without having to drag this on I'm going to stop there. The Persian's were nothing like the movie (don’t you dare go saying "oh yeah like that 200 foot elephant wasn't real.. always trying to lie with your book smart..."). This wasn't just a case of "Historical inaccuracies" BLAH! It was a complete and total annihilation of history in the end no one survived!

This movie was based on a comic book from some strung up pompous idiot who thought he could bend and twist history under the pretext of "its just a fiction" screw that! Its just History! *goes into fit* :mad2:

Rant over.

[Madame Adequate]

It's just a fucking movie based on a fucking comic book. At no point has ANY claim to historical accuracy been made in EITHER of the presentations. It wasn't meant to be 'slightly historically inaccurate' or anything like that, it was meant to be some fun based on a particular idea taken from history.

[Ashley Schovitz]

It's just a smurfing movie based on a smurfing comic book. At no point has ANY claim to historical accuracy been made in EITHER of the presentations. It wasn't meant to be 'slightly historically inaccurate' or anything like that, it was meant to be some fun based on a particular idea taken from history.

Yeah Diango12 you just try to ruin everyone else's pleasure by boasting your rants. If you didn't like the movie then just say it instead of trying to bash everyone who liked it. That bash on Frank Miller just shows your envy of him.

[Dynast-Kid]

I don't think many people went to the movie because they were expecting the Hollywood equivalent of a history textbook. I think they went for the stylish fighting, entertaining plot, and the images of hot, muscular Greek men running around nearly naked...Or at least I am.

Just kidding, i'm not old enough to get into R movies, but I really want to see it, and i'm probably gonna buy a bootleg copy pretty soon.

[fire_of_avalon]

My girlfriend failed to be intrigued or excited about this excuse for homoerotic violence movie; I then proceeded to take off my clothes and chase her off a cliff yelling "For Sparta!"

You get five gold stars.

I want to see this movie purely for the nakedness and the hooker boots, and I don't care who knows it.

[Slothy]

It's just a smurfing movie based on a smurfing comic book. At no point has ANY claim to historical accuracy been made in EITHER of the presentations. It wasn't meant to be 'slightly historically inaccurate' or anything like that, it was meant to be some fun based on a particular idea taken from history.

Thank you.

Everyone knows it's historically inaccurate, and no one here who's seen it and loved it really cares. It was never meant to be historically accurate, and if you expected that from anything done by Frank Miller, then I'm forced to laugh at you. It was inspired by the actual battle, but in no way tries to portray it with any sort of realism. In fact, the whole point was to exaggerate pretty much everything and tell it in a way that suited the story Frank Miller wanted to tell, and the battle scenes he wanted to draw. If you think anyone is surprised or angered by these facts you bring up (besides you of course), you're dreaming. Next thing you know you'll be ranting at how God of War is a complete travesty against history. But then, if you see why that'd be rediculous then maybe you can start to see why complaining about the inaccuracy of this movie is rediculous.

Try to look at the movie and the comic for what they were meant to be from the beginning. And for god's sake lighten up; you'll live longer.

[Diango12]

It's just a smurfing movie based on a smurfing comic book. At no point has ANY claim to historical accuracy been made in EITHER of the presentations. It wasn't meant to be 'slightly historically inaccurate' or anything like that, it was meant to be some fun based on a particular idea taken from history.

To hell with that! Look at my post, where the smurf did I say I care one cent about historical accuracy?

The movie was a fiction, yes I mentioned that. It was for the pure non-stop action and violence, yes I agree. But where in gods name does spouting smurfing bull about freedom have to do with fight scenes or the action and violence. Actually I wouldn't be surprised at all now a days violence and freedom go hand in hand. I read the comic I'm actually a fan! I remember the remake made by the series samurai jack and that awesome and to the point.

When did he get off his ass to turn this into some complex where as I mentioned becomes Monstrous horde vs. Angelic arch warriors. :rolleyes2

Fiction or not this is the same example shown in Alexander, where in the hell do they get this crap about freedom where do they get off to try and smudge historical relevance. So in the end tough luck! Your not going to have the convenience of hiding behind "its just fiction" you know full well what load of smudge this movie is. And that remark "Athenian boy lover" just jerked and pissed me off, Athens could have smudged Sparta by just sneezing in the wind. And they made no effort to show that it was thanks to Athens that the Greeks survived the Spartans just held a narrow mountain pass for two days.

Fiction or not the timeline compared to the historical events were very accurate this was based on history like it or not. And in the end history/fact lost.

End of rant!

[Madame Adequate]

And they made no effort to show that it was thanks to Athens that the Greeks survived the Spartans just held a narrow mountain pass for two days.

In one of the single most heroic acts in Human history.

Edit: And yeah, nobody is trying to hide behing "It's just fiction" because nothing else is being claimed.

[Freya]

and the images of hot, muscular Greek men running around nearly naked...

And that's why I didn't feel like a man, I felt more girly. I mean 2 hrs of it. Dang.

[Callisto]

Well that all was fun reading. Honestly, I don't care about the historical accuracy as I went with the mind frame of just having a good time. It didn't disappoint me at all. It was fun, the men were hot, and the violence was awesome. Enough said.

[Germ Hamee]

Fiction or not the timeline compared to the historical events were very accurate this was based on history like it or not. And in the end history/fact lost.

Yes. Based on. Not adapted. There's a difference, and that difference allows artistic freedom.


Your not going to have the convenience of hiding behind "its just fiction" you know full well what load of smudge this movie is.

A "load of smudge" is pretty much the definition of fiction, dear.



I saw the movie this last weekend, and loved every bit of it. I didn't go into the movie expecting some profound, moving story, nor a film adaption of a history book. I got exactly what I expected: Half naked men, pretty colors, mind-smurfing camera play, lots of blood--what a lovely load of eye candy!

[Vincent, Thunder God]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but I found a rather interesting precursor to 300... a 1962 film named the 300 spartans! I was researching an old favourite show called the Time Tunnel and I noticed some of the film footage used for an episode of the show was from this little-known film on the Battle of Thermopylae.

The 300 Spartans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_300_Spartans)


The 300 Spartans is a 1962 film depicting the Battle of Thermopylae. Made with the cooperation of the Greek government, it was shot in the village of Perachora in the Peloponnese. The picture was noted for its Cold War overtones, and starred Richard Egan as the Spartan king Leonidas, Ralph Richardson as Themistocles of Athens and David Farrar as Persian king Xerxes, with Diane Baker as Ellas and Barry Coe as Phylon providing the requisite romantic element in the film.

Frank Miller saw this movie as a boy and said it "changed the course of my creative life."[1] His graphic novel 300 is about the Battle of Thermopylae, as is its 2007 film adaptation.

I always suspected most current films were gritty re-hashes of ancient, forgotten foreign films. :rolleyes2

[Raebus]

Hey guys, lets take apart a film and not talk about the entertainment value of it, it'll be fun! Then we could all become film students who mutter about the way its shot or even completely forget about why we watch a film, to be entertained. Oh gosh, that does sound fun!

[Mirage]

I think that's a good idea.

[Diango12]

Hey guys, lets take apart a film and not talk about the entertainment value of it, it'll be fun! Then we could all become film students who mutter about the way its shot or even completely forget about why we watch a film, to be entertained. Oh gosh, that does sound fun!

Psht! *slap* No








Fiction or not the timeline compared to the historical events were very accurate this was based on history like it or not. And in the end history/fact lost.

Yes. Based on. Not adapted. There's a difference, and that difference allows artistic freedom.
Your not going to have the convenience of hiding behind "its just fiction" you know full well what load of smudge this movie is.
A "load of smudge" is pretty much the definition of fiction, dear.


I saw the movie this last weekend, and loved every bit of it. I didn't go into the movie expecting some profound, moving story, nor a film adaption of a history book. I got exactly what I expected: Half naked men, pretty colors, mind-smurfing camera play, lots of blood--what a lovely load of eye candy!

Oh for the love of!..

Please listen to what I said in this order [you pretty much contradicted yourself, read your post backwards and see what I mean]


Yes. Based on. Not adapted. There's a difference, and that difference allows artistic freedom.


Your not going to have the convenience of hiding behind "its just fiction" you know full well what load of smudge this movie is.


A "load of smudge" is pretty much the definition of fiction, dear.

Weren't you just telling me- " Yes. Based on. Not adapted. There's a difference, and that difference allows artistic freedom." First it was artistic then it's a load of smudge..?

Bottom line I didn't like this movies tone at all, there was no plot sequence no character development no smurfing story, just man boobs fighting in the shade. So go ahead have fun with all of you're man boobs you petty lethians!!! :mad2::mad2: @#@$@

[Bunny]

EVERYTHING IS SERIOUS BUSINESS.

[Germ Hamee]

First it was artistic then it's a load of smudge..?

I was assuming, of course, that you meant a "load of smudge" as a "load of crap", which I understood as "not true at all". :P Please forgive me.

And since when is art not allowed to be smudgey? I like smudgey art, especially if there's loads of it. :D

[Jowy]

WHO THE FUCK CARES.

This movie is full of dude-ity, violence, gore, and shouting! If you want something to be historically accurate watch a documentary. You're not going to see a film for a history lesson, that's for damn sure. It's for ENTERTAINMENT.

EN-TER-TAIN-MENT.

[The Unknown Guru]

It looks like one loooooooooong RPG cut-scene to me.

[Mirage]

WHO THE smurf CARES.

This movie is full of dude-ity, violence, gore, and shouting! If you want something to be historically accurate watch a documentary. You're not going to see a film for a history lesson, that's for damn sure. It's for ENTERTAINMENT.

EN-TER-TAIN-MENT.

what, you mean the last samurai wasn't historically correct? :(

[Raebus]

Are you kidding me? The last samurai was so historically correct, I mean havent you ever heard of a white samurai or early historic evidence of the ability to dodge bullets by the thousands evident in said film?

Oh wait...

[Bunny]

Sarcasm detector... TINGLING!

[Nominus Experse]

Can we start talking about the hot, sweaty, bloody men again? Please?

[Bunny]

So on a scale of 1 to 10... how hot, sweaty, and blood are these men?

1 being not so much and 10 being very very bloody, sweaty, and hot.

[Raebus]

A definite 10, ie I'd hit it.

Twice.

[Araciel]

WHO THE smurf CARES.

This movie is full of dude-ity, violence, gore, and shouting! If you want something to be historically accurate watch a documentary. You're not going to see a film for a history lesson, that's for damn sure. It's for ENTERTAINMENT.

EN-TER-TAIN-MENT.

to be sure, a testo-fest to the end, and very well done...loved it..love it...buyin it.

[Jowy]

So on a scale of 1 to 10... how hot, sweaty, and blood are these men?

1 being not so much and 10 being very very bloody, sweaty, and hot.

Dude, these speakers go up to eleven. 8-)

[Freya]

So on a scale of 1 to 10... how hot, sweaty, and blood are these men?

1 being not so much and 10 being very very bloody, sweaty, and hot.

13!

[Shiny]

Fiction or not the timeline compared to the historical events were very accurate this was based on history like it or not. And in the end history/fact lost. It was based on Historical Fiction though. Frank Miller (writer) based the movie on several Historic Fiction novels and that's the material he used for his comic book. People get bummed out of shape on something that clearly references fiction. Miller was going for gore (as usual) and selling sex. He obviously could care less about the Historic value of Sparta. I laugh at the people actually believed that really happened. I say, "Oh so you were there?" And then laugh.

[Diango12]

Your not going to have the convenience of hiding behind "its just fiction"

[Araciel]

why not

[Jowy]

Yeah, man. You didn't write, direct or product this movie so you can't really tell us how we're supposed to perceive or interpret any of it. I, along with most moviegoers walked in expecting ultraviolence, and were rewarded with so.

8-)

[Nominus Experse]

I want to talk about this movie and its hot, sweaty, gore-bathing men. Talking about a movie's historical value is inane when it never wishes to be historically accurate: only accurate to the comic.

You're talking to a wall, Diango. We know what it is - fiction. We don't care, frankly, that it's a complete misrepresentation of X amount of things.

We don't care.

We care about the visual style, the blood-bath, etc... We go in expecting a testosterone-filled movie, and we get it.

We'll read a book or watch the history channel if we want to learn of Sparta and Greece.



Back to naked men and gore.

[NeoCracker]

I actually thought the story was rather good, I fail to see how people think there was no story, it just wasn't the main focus. I saw it about an hour ago and loved it to death, awesome fights, which is what I felt like seeing.

[Dragon Mage]

Well, I have no idea as to what the discussion of this this thread has evolved into, so for now, I'll throw in my own 2 cents. I know quite a bit about this topic, as my greek ancestors came from Spartan-controlled lands, and I've done numerous project on Sparta.

This is what I had a problem with:
1) There is no snow in Greece. Maybe in the very northern reaches of Greece, but Sparta was rather firmly in the south.

2) I don't care who you are, Spartan, Viking, Samurai, no one feels confident or b.a. when going into battle in little more than a man-thong. They did have armor.

3) There was really 1700 men at the pass; the Thebeans did come you know. But they left to warn Greece (when the goat trail was discovered) and the 300 Spartans were left to defend the pass. The movie makes it seem as though the others did very little, but this is simply not true.

4) The elephants. I don't care if they can swim, no elephant will swim more than a quarter-mile. There. Were. No. Elephants. K? But the rhino I liked. That was good.

Other than that, the movie was spectacular. It did a superb job of displaying the fighting techniques and skill of the spartans, as well as their heroism. The CG didn't take over the movie or was seperated from the actors, but instead enhanced the actors performance beautifully. More movies should try to emulate this movie's use of CG. The fighting was amazing and realistic and is a huge improvement of the first 300 Spartans movie. Awesome, awesome, awesome. At first there were some things that made me laugh at it's stupidity, but one has to realize that this is supposed to be an epic retelling of an epic legend. things are supposed to be a little overdone. (as a note of interest, the man with the sword-arms was actually recorded by Herodotus. That was pure history, really).

An excellent movie that was worth seeing, despite a few flaws.

[Nominus Experse]

*bashing forehead to wall*

[Dragon Mage]

WTF?????

What. Are. You. Doing? Don't do that, you might put a hole in the wall, XD

[Callisto]

Did we mention the guys were very hot, sweaty, and bloody? I'm sorry. I can see everyone's point, but does it really matter?

[Araciel]

of course not....the movie was great, and what's wrong with that?

dr strangelove wasn't historically accurate either...who cares, it was still hilarous and awesome.

[Madame Adequate]

And everyone knows there were only two Nazgûl in history - LotR just made the rest up for dramatic effect.

[Araciel]

And everyone knows there were only two Nazgûl in history - LotR just made the rest up for dramatic effect.

:D :D :D :D :D

[Bunny]

This is what I had a problem with:
1) There is no snow in Greece. Maybe in the very northern reaches of Greece, but Sparta was rather firmly in the south.

It was imported from a snow manufacturing plant. This was a common Spartan tactic because Persians were afraid of hard nipples.


2) I don't care who you are, Spartan, Viking, Samurai, no one feels confident or b.a. when going into battle in little more than a man-thong. They did have armor.

Man, there are Vikings and Samurai in this movie? I need to go see it now.


3) There was really 1700 men at the pass; the Thebeans did come you know. But they left to warn Greece (when the goat trail was discovered) and the 300 Spartans were left to defend the pass. The movie makes it seem as though the others did very little, but this is simply not true.

Numerical pish-posh.


4) The elephants. I don't care if they can swim, no elephant will swim more than a quarter-mile. There. Were. No. Elephants. K? But the rhino I liked. That was good.

The elephants were imported from an Elephant Manufacturing Plant because Spartans didn't have any mice. Rhinos are pretty cool though.


'sup folks

[Jowy]

If the Persians would have constructed additional pylons, they might have stood a chance.

[Madame Adequate]

If the Persians would have constructed additional pylons, they might have stood a chance.

The Spartans only had 300 men because they needed more Vespene Gas.

[theundeadhero]

Next time I go to Bahgdad I'm going to run around in my underwear and cut people up with my saber.

[41-Inches-Wide]

I LEIK 300!!!!!!!!1!11!!1
Every shot was totaley ready for DEVIANT ART I swear. It's like each of the 37 frames in a second was tweaked and filtered. :3

[Vincent, Thunder God]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but I found a rather interesting precursor to 300... a 1962 film named the 300 spartans! I was researching an old favourite show called the Time Tunnel and I noticed some of the film footage used for an episode of the show was from this little-known film on the Battle of Thermopylae.

The 300 Spartans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_300_Spartans)


The 300 Spartans is a 1962 film depicting the Battle of Thermopylae. Made with the cooperation of the Greek government, it was shot in the village of Perachora in the Peloponnese. The picture was noted for its Cold War overtones, and starred Richard Egan as the Spartan king Leonidas, Ralph Richardson as Themistocles of Athens and David Farrar as Persian king Xerxes, with Diane Baker as Ellas and Barry Coe as Phylon providing the requisite romantic element in the film.

Frank Miller saw this movie as a boy and said it "changed the course of my creative life."[1] His graphic novel 300 is about the Battle of Thermopylae, as is its 2007 film adaptation.

I always suspected most current films were gritty re-hashes of ancient, forgotten foreign films. :rolleyes2


Hey guys, lets take apart a film and not talk about the entertainment value of it, it'll be fun! Then we could all become film students who mutter about the way its shot or even completely forget about why we watch a film, to be entertained. Oh gosh, that does sound fun!

I see no reason not to, especially considering I haven't even seen the film - so my opinion doesn't really constitute as taking it apart. My statement related to the current trend in the movie industry as a whole, which is...

to flood the market with remakes, sequels, and rip-offs of previous films without giving credit to their original inspirations.

There are some new films which don't follow this trend, but sadly many do.

[Roto13]

I found a torrent for a DVD rip of this movie. Yay for piracy!

(Yes, a DVD rip of a movie that's not on DVD yet. :P)

[Mirage]

Have fun with your camcoder-in-theatre-with-monaural-sound version, on a small 19" monitor.

I've got tickets for me and my girlfriend for tonight :p.

[Dreddz]

Im seeing it in the Imax this afternoon, should be fun.

[Roto13]

Have fun with your camcoder-in-theatre-with-monaural-sound version, on a small 19" monitor.


I found a torrent for a DVD rip of this movie. Yay for piracy!

And it's a widescreen monitor, so nyah on your face.

[psyniac_123]

I saw it yesterday. Definately a film to see if you have money to spare, under these conditions:

1. You can see it in a cinema.
2. (Once it is released on DVD) You have your own projector or private cinema.

If you see it in the cinema and again after it's release at home, I gurantee you the film will lose most of it's original finesse and quality. The plot was simple (not complaining however) but the action was really great.
Oh, and kinda gorey.
However the characters seemed incredibly shallow. You didn't get enough time to get attached to them AT ALL. :(

Ah well... I'll be seeing TMNT next week which will make up for it!! :D

[Setzer Gabianni]

I must say when I read up about it, it sounded awesome. Graphically, it got me drooling. I really want to see it, but not on my own :(

[psyniac_123]

FARAMIR LIVES

Too much LotR for me.

[Roto13]

K, so I just finished watching it. It's basically what I thought it would be. The parts where nobody was dying were boring as hell, but the parts with violence were amazing. Worth checking out if you like to watch men in speedos and capes chuck spears at Persians. There doesn't seem to be any music during the ending credits of the version I have, though. How odd.

One unforgivable thing: They got rid of the naked flogging! >:(

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/rotothirteen/1174627602114fj5.png

[Dreddz]

What a load of crap, as expected. I went to the Imax to see this, and not even the monster of a screen could of helped the movie. The first half an hour or so was hella boring. It all felt to similier to all the other movie of the same genre ( Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, Gladiator etc ). I was thinking the fight scenes would help the movie, but they were also pretty dull. They kept re-using the gimmicky slow-fast movement of all the people, it was lame after about a minute.

I was happy about the ending, I had never read the novel, but I was expecting the typical happy ending Where'd they all live , but to my surprise it was the opposite.

[Tavrobel]

If the Persians would have constructed additional pylons, they might have stood a chance.

The Spartans only had 300 men because they needed more Vespene Gas.

No, they needed more Overlords, not Pylons, Overlords.

The battle was like one big Lost Temple match with a Protoss unit at the top of the cliff, forcing the Spartans to fight one by one, and as we all know, Zealots can withstand 4 Marines and 5 Zerglings.

If you don't, then you need to go see this movie.

[Mirage]

Have fun with your camcoder-in-theatre-with-monaural-sound version, on a small 19" monitor.


I found a torrent for a DVD rip of this movie. Yay for piracy!

And it's a widescreen monitor, so nyah on your face.

13" widescreen amirite?!

Anyway, I saw it yesterday, and I liked it. So did my girlie. Especially when that girl killed that guy.

[Psychotic]

I liked it, but it wasn't really as violent as it was hyped out to be, so I am disappointed as far as that goes.

Interestingly enough, the movie that Vincent, Thunder God is talking about, The 300 Spartans, was on TV yesterday, and I watched it. I think you'll find the "Our arrows will blot out the sun" "Then we will fight in the shade" was a not-so-subtle nod to that. Unless that's an actual quote from the original Greek legend or wherever this story came from.

EDIT: Just looked it up and yeah, it came from the original Greek legend.

[BatChao]

I remember watching 300 Spartans in middles school in social studies class... that was kewlies.

Anyway, 300 was pretty much awesome. But I guess you just have to like that kind of movie. I'm a sucker for crazy guys chopping people up and cool special effects, so the movie was perfecto. It knows what kind of movie it is and doesn't try to do anything more and that is awesome.

[Mirage]

It took place in Greece, so I would assume it's a Greek legend.

[Riana]

I loved this film. All films aim to entertain that's what '300' accomplished.

Gerard Butler was fantastic in the film. I couldn't tell it was him! XD
But yeah the battle scenes, the special effects, the score and the acting was really well put together.

I suppose the balance was kept well, as it needed to appeal to both men and women. I can't believe the few people that said it was 'too manly' forgot about the naked (or semi-naked) women. Look how degraded they were, did no one notice that?

However the dialogue was a bit slow. It could have been slightly more fast paced, but then I wondered about the comic ( as I haven't read it). Was there as much content in the comic? Otherwise it's understandable to span it as long to two hours. That was pretty short for a historical film.

I love '300'. :love:

[Aerisfanatic]

every one that saw it either awsome or okay,

personaly i think they over did it just a smidge

and think people always forget that greek people have a mid euorpean accent not that shotty brittish accent they tryed to pull off

[Mercen-X]

If there was any part I didn't like about it . . . I've forgotten what it was because it got buried by the rest of the movie which I loved. My dad wants to own the comic. Leonidas rocks!

[Diango12]

*yawn* this movie was a snore fest, the only thing that kept me awake was the loud and obnoxious cheerleading and that man boob yelling some barbarian language about about barta or whatever.

I thought the ending was good, just wished the persians would've went and arse raped those man boobs already. All that ass and nothing to show for it, what a waste.

[KasaiDraco]

I might watch it online when I feel like it.

[Araciel]

hah yeah when the queen stabbed that guy the theater we were in applauded...chem and i loooked at each other and did a simultaneous eye roll :P

[edczxcvbnm]

I saw the movie. Thumbs down.

I went into this movie thinking it was going to be bad BUT after the movie was over I hated it for way different reasons that I never thought of and actually like what I thought I was going to hate.

I thought they would not really focus much on the real story of what went down and have it flooded with way too much action. Quite the opposite actually. They completely made up what happened story wise(except for a few things) and didn't have nearly enough action. All the talk of how Greece is Free compared to Persia made me laugh though. That part was just ridiculous.

[Diango12]

This movie could have been good, it had potential but flooding it will all this crap and this sob story of boo hoo poor greeks boo hoo just made me ill.

The spartans held the pass for two lucky days through a military strategem not because of their fantastical warrior skills :rolleyes2

please thats a load of crap.

[edczxcvbnm]

This movie could have been good, it had potential but flooding it will all this crap and this sob story of boo hoo poor greeks boo hoo just made me ill.

The spartans held the pass for two lucky days through military and strategic outcome not because of their fantastical warrior skills :rolleyes2

please thats a load of crap.

1) Yep

2) I was giving the benifit of the doubt because it is an action movie. I also would not say it was luck that they survived for 2 days. In those 2 days they lost few. Had they not been betrayed I bet Persia would have never gotten through. But because of the strategy, training, armor advantages as well as weapon advantages compared to the Persians.

[Diango12]

Persia would have gotten through its called "human limits". Their weapons, armor were second class compared to Persia- training was a notch above the hastily conscripted levies Persia raised. The phalanx was the only real variable in the success of the defense.

In any case it was just two days, a few insurgents were able to hold off barricaded against an Army battalion for one week :rolleyes2 big woop

So keep things in perspective it was just two days, the Persians didn’t sustain heavy losses, they weren’t repelled after there endless onslaught as was depicted in the movie and they weren’t beatin as the movie would like show at its ending. There was just a nuisance over yonder between those cliffs and it would probably take a 40 some hours to clear it. That’s all it was big deal

-Alexander beating Darius- Now that was a battle
-Hannibal barca Defeating a Roman army of 87,000 men while his forces numbered some 25,000 and only taking 6,000 casualty’s from the battle is a true test of metal.
-An Arabian army numbering some 13,000 Defeating 200,000 Persians~ that’s right not holding off for some measly two days not forcing them to retreat not being behind two panzy mountains but fighting instead in the open desert and actually defeating every last soldier they had is the real test of metal.

In short the Persians had a failed system of raising armies where they relied on a horde of levies rather then hard earned trained men. And that’s why the Spartans were able to take advantage of this weakness. The only thing is that few poumpos idiots like to make into such a big deal and such a "great success" which I find silly and rather amusing but thats greek historians for ya.

[Madame Adequate]

every one that saw it either awsome or okay,

personaly i think they over did it just a smidge

and think people always forget that greek people have a mid euorpean accent not that shotty brittish accent they tryed to pull off

Tried to?

The guy playing Leonidas is Scottish. Gorgo is English. Dilios is Australian. Xerxes is Brazilian.

Diango: We still haven't claimed that this is in any way historically accurate or remotely relevant to what really happened, and we still don't care that it wasn't. Get over it.

I can't believe you're actually becoming racist about this. What the Spartans did at Thermopylae was heroic, whether you like this movie or not, and whether you like Xerxes' Persia or Ancient Sparta or not. The heroism rests in their willingness to face impossible odds, and to die in doing so, not in how successful their military tactics were. Jesus.

[Diango12]

Wait what?! Excuse me did you just say racist? You mean racist as in the same racisism that’s being projected against Arab/Persian/Easterners in these half asses Greek movies? Racist against a 3000-year-old civilization? And the fact that I happen to be an avid student of Ancient Athens and her exploits? Please elaborate.

Heroism sure but manipulating it way out of proportion is... in fact actually also ok. But smothering and rubbing down ancient cultures in the mud like they were some kind of dirt is Not Ok. What pissed me even more was how people in the theater started laughing when the brave Spartan warriors were slaughtering the helpless and mamed men in the aftermath, I was like WTF xD.

This movie was great it was full of action and violence and should be enjoyed.. but at the cost history or Persia.. I don’t think so

[Proxy]

300...Is the best movie i have seen in years. Quite literally.
And i own over 100 movies, and have seen countless ever. So yeah. haha. I am gonna go see it again this weekend I think.

[GF_Diablos]

I saw it last night. Amazing. Everything about it is done well, I am so glad this guy is on Watchmen.

[Craig]

This movie was great it was full of action and violence and should be enjoyed.. but at the cost history or Persia.. I don’t think so

It's not at the cost of the history of Persia at all, because anyone who sees this movie and then believes that is what really happened, is a complete moron.

As far as I'm concerned, this movie is just based on a story that Frank Miller wanted to tell after being inspired by the battle that he based it on, he basically made his own story about 300 awesome men fighting off millions of other men and mythical creatures, but decided to keep the real names or whatever. At least, that's how I see it anyway. No big deal.

[Araciel]

omg i think i'm gonna throw up...it's a movie dammit the end

[Madame Adequate]

Saw this in the movies properly today. In HD. I would like to inform you that I now have seven testicles and am the manliest mofo since I Took The Red Pill had a child with Maxx Power.

[Eiko Guy]

qualities of my favorite type of movie

-man thongs. check
-really ripped abs. check
-many hot sweaty men/ check
-Sexy homoerotic domination. check

I am going to burn this movie into my brain so i can see it always.

[Fonzie]

qualities of my favorite type of movie

-man thongs. check
-really ripped abs. check
-many hot sweaty men/ check
-Sexy homoerotic domination. check

I am going to burn this movie into my brain so i can see it always.

Err, keep that stuff to yourself man :p

I want to see this movie though. It looks crazy awesome.

[Eiko Guy]

Forums aren't about keeping things to yourself. Quite the opposite IMO

[JKTrix]

Edit: Sorry, forgot it had unfiltered bad words in it. Link'd instead.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/5907/spartatb5sa9.jpg

I giggled.

Still haven't seen this movie, not particularly interested in paying for it.

[Diango12]

[EDIT]
wow!.. I just saw the movie again and I have to really say I had it all wrong! It was so exciting the second time around, I can't belive what I was missing! I take it all back 300 is great!

[Jowy]

Good to know your trolling had some backing to it~!

[fantasyjunkie]

You know, I am an ancient history buuf and I still LOVED 300! It's not a doumentary, it's a kick ass action movie with really cool lines!
SPARTA!!!!
"See? We have more soldiers than you!" :D :D :D :D

[PhoenixAsh]

I stopped reading the thread around page 2, but I'll throw in my opinion.

I didn't think it was great. The fights were amazing. I mean really, really amazing. The rest was horrendous.

I felt like the only reason I knew a scene was meant to be dramatic was because they had dramatic music playing in the background. It was actually (literally) laughable. As I laughed out loud several times during the beginning of the film as I realised that if nothing was happening, it would be slowed down to make it look 'interesting'.

The characters themselves were awful. There was more or less no tangible relationship between the King and Queen. One (funny, inappropriate and entirely pointless) sex scene was not enough to sell it as a relationship. The repeated ranting about 'freedom' was ridiculous. Spartan society was barely shown, let alone shown to be free. Why the hell was I supposed to care if it was protected? Also, the fact that the Spartans were killing slaves (as in people who had their freedom taken away) sort of entirely undermined their apparent heroism.

The rulers of Sparta were corrupt, the ideals the 300 fought for laughable, the style of any non-violent scene (save for the apple eating) was dull or pretentious, and the characters were almost all dislikable or stupid. Basically, fight scenes awesome, everything else, terrible.

[Diango12]

Good to know your trolling had some backing to it~!

Some people are just more gullible then others I suppose.

April Fools! :p

The movie sucked, mostly because it had a huge Halo around its head, and lets leave it at that.

[Mirage]

Oh my god, there's someone behind me!

April fools!

[Jowy]

11:57 PM is too early for an April Fools Joke. =P

[Diango12]

That time is incorrect and isn't set right for me :P

[Madame Adequate]

Good to know your trolling had some backing to it~!

Some people are just more gullible then others I suppose.

April Fools! :p

The movie sucked, mostly because it had a huge Halo around its head, and lets leave it at that.

The only way it could have been BETTER is if the other SPARTANS were involved. The ones in MJOLNIR VI suits, that is.

[DeStyle]

I watched it.

It kept me watching but I didn't think it was THAT good,
it's style vaguely reminded me of Sin City (which rocked, "Is that all you can do you pantsies" - Said a man while getting electrocuted).

[bipper]

IT was fair enough. Not earth shattering, but a damned good movie in light of the :skull::skull::skull::skull: we have gotten lately.

[McLovin']

I am watching it right now online.

[Albel]

Yeah, its really good. Not the best film I've seen, but still good.

[Croyles]

This movie will be great. Im expecting a non-existant story, lots of blood, gore, guts and roaring men (but who are actually slightly too naked for my liking). Im gonna love the artsy aspect of it! Its coming out here on the 5th.

[McLovin']

Who's bright idea was it to not wear any armor to battle?

The last line of the movie should have been...THIS IS SPAAAARTTTAAAA!

Not stupid victory.

[Slothy]

Who's bright idea was it to not wear any armor to battle?

It was an artistic choice Frank Miller made with the comic because he felt armour would look too heavy and cumbersome in the battle scenes. I have to agree as well when looking at the movie since the beautiful fluidity of the battles wouldn't have been there had they been wearing heavy armour.

[Goldenboko]

I loved this movie. FOR SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[Araciel]

Who's bright idea was it to not wear any armor to battle?

It was an artistic choice Frank Miller made with the comic because he felt armour would look too heavy and cumbersome in the battle scenes. I have to agree as well when looking at the movie since the beautiful fluidity of the battles wouldn't have been there had they been wearing heavy armour.

plus you don't get to see as much manflesh with all kinds of armour on.

[Diango12]

I have to agree as well when looking at the movie since the beautiful fluidity of the battles wouldn't have been there had they been wearing heavy armour.


You actually thought the battles were fluid? More like erratic condensed nonsense with a massive load of editing and "choice displays" to make it appear as if the Spartans are omnipotent :rolleyes2

Reminds me of Rambo dodging all those bullets and pin point accurately shooting down a brigade including a tank company with little more then a machine gun and 5 seconds of screen time.

The movie was pretty artistic in terms of the visuals though one aspect I liked.

[Jowy]

<img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/psycho_mantis/desustop.gif>

[Madame Adequate]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/Auricom/cluebat.jpg

[Agent Proto]

<img src="http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/stwabobby/1174120752307.jpg">

[Diango12]

Oh my it looks like I've been run out of the thread by the Milf squad *gasp* :rolleyes2



As much as I would like to post a picture I'm not a prick :)

[Araciel]

Oh my it looks like I've been run out of the thread by the Milf squad *gasp* :rolleyes2



As much as I would like to post a picture I'm not a prick :)

i think i speak for everyone when i say you're entitled to your opinion, it just happens to be wrong.

[Diango12]

I share the sentiment, while I enjoyed the movie I think it should never have come out in the first place. And everyone is entitled to their opinion, lets leave it at that.

[Madame Adequate]

If I got the MILF squad in here, the forum would burn down.

And yes, we have to respect your right to an opinion. Doesn't mean we have to respect the opinion itself.

[Croyles]

lets leave it at that.
Good!

Im looking forward to watching this!