Bestiary and Weapon Designs

[BlackWaltz]

Im still playing through the game (currently at sochen cave palace) and loving it! I was sitting and thinking how amazing the bestiary design is, i mean Square have really gone to work on this game. The enemies just look amazing and so original, the best enemies in the series i would say. Also the weapons looks brilliant (some outragous)

Anyone agree? Any enemy or weapon that sticks out to you?

If not, what game do you think has the best Bestairy design?

[Remon]

Yup!!
The bestiary is the best of the best if you ask me.
Not only you got a detailed description of the monster but you also got some extra info about places and other stuff. :love:

As for the weapons, they were fine.(not as good as FFX's ones)
Although i can't wait to lay my hands on that Zodiac Spear :hyper:

[Hazzard]

They're good. I hate that ugly Strongest Halberd, it looks terrible, but I wish i could get it, that's only when I start a new game.

[Gokalia]

I think the bestiary is great its better than a lot of games but still it could be better and the weapons are pretty good but they could have used more detail, what i like the best is how the water looks they put alot of time just to make the water that real when you see the start up movie. :)

[Renmiri]

I like Coeurls better in X and I hate the Chimeras looking like fat turkeys. Other than that the beast design on XII rules!

Weapons are cool, particularly the judges Weapons
http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/thumb/120px-Judge1.jpg http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/thumb/120px-Judge2.jpg http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/thumb/120px-Judge3.jpg http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/thumb/120px-Judge4.jpg

[Pete for President]

Some beasts are really cool, others just look ridiculous. Alligators, chimera's, coeurls and baknamies look plain stupid. (Ring)wyrms and those fuzzy little creatures like Fury look awesome though.

[Hazzard]

Shield wyrm makes me smile when i kick the crap out of him. He cries at the end...

[Renmiri]

I love the split duck beak alligators! They look funny but the design was very creative!!!

I love all the undead monsters. They are sooo creepy. And the Demon Wall, it is the best ever!!

[Xurts]

I don't like the ring around the necks of dragons. They look really lame.

[rubah]

Could've used a few more species. 'lol wolf, lol BIG wolf, lol flying bird, lol snake, lol undead, lol wyrm'

They needed a mummy enemy. Games never have mummies anymore.

[Renmiri]

What about the ghouls ? They could pass as raggedy old mummies ;)

[Hazzard]

I don't like the ring around the necks of dragons. They look really lame.

They look great, and they actually have an specific meaning to why they wear it.

[Setzer Gabianni]

For the love of God Renmiri, enlarge those bloody judge pictures!

[Hazzard]

i love Setzer's Sig and avatar.

Representing the judges!

[rubah]

Ghouls are not good enough. I want my Mummies and Vamp Grls.

[Renmiri]

For the love of God Renmiri, enlarge those bloody judge pictures!

http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/index.php/FFXII/Weapons#Judge_Weapons

Click on each thumbnail to see it full size

[Human Devil]

I don't like the ring around the necks of dragons. They look really lame.

They look great, and they actually have an specific meaning to why they wear it.

Ok the freakin squid lookin heads on the Coeurls, the Chimera's, the tiny little Malboros and the rings around dragons. They all threw me off.

Tell me, what are the rings on the dragons for?

[Renmiri]

It was an iron leash from when they were conquered and made into pets by a wizard. Something like that. It's on the bestiary.

[No.78]

Yes I agree, I saw the weapon designs before the game came out and loved them. Maybe that's because I was obsessed with weaponry as a child, and still sort of am... But yeah, everything's done really well.


I like Coeurls better in X and I hate the Chimeras looking like fat turkeys. Other than that the beast design on XII rules!

Weapons are cool, particularly the judges Weapons
http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/thumb/120px-Judge1.jpg http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/thumb/120px-Judge2.jpg http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/thumb/120px-Judge3.jpg http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/thumb/120px-Judge4.jpg

Oooooh, I <3 concept art, ty for that.

[Setzer Gabianni]

:( You got any clearer images hun, I was going to look at the bodies so I could draw em, buuuut, I finding a bit hard. Weapons too. But thanks Ren, some interesting stuff ;D

[Hazzard]

I for one love the ring around the Wyrms, and at least it is all detailed with meaning. The name's a big hint. They're funny as well, especially when you beat the crap out of them, and they start groaning sadly. Big fat easy ass whooping, right there!

[Renmiri]

:( You got any clearer images hun, I was going to look at the bodies so I could draw em, buuuut, I finding a bit hard. Weapons too. But thanks Ren, some interesting stuff ;D

Yes, I just have to rescan then. It took me a while to find good settings to scan the Japanese Ultimania so my first scans are blurry. I'll post them at my wiki when I get to it, ok ?

[Xurts]

It was an iron leash from when they were conquered and made into pets by a wizard. Something like that. It's on the bestiary.
That sounds pretty lame to me. They would've been much better if they didn't have the ring and were named "dragons" instead of "wyrms", which also sounds incredibly lame.

[Hazzard]

Not really, I like the way they did something unique and named 'Dragons', 'Wyrms'. I especially like the big ring around their necks as well.

[Setzer Gabianni]

:( You got any clearer images hun, I was going to look at the bodies so I could draw em, buuuut, I finding a bit hard. Weapons too. But thanks Ren, some interesting stuff ;D

Yes, I just have to rescan then. It took me a while to find good settings to scan the Japanese Ultimania so my first scans are blurry. I'll post them at my wiki when I get to it, ok ?

wubs u :3

[Dr. Acula]

And the Demon Wall, it is the best ever!!
I know, that Demon Wall looked awesome.
I especially love the Malboro Kings/Overkings. They had crowns! And moustaches!:D

[Hazzard]

Hmph...They really did go all out with the Marlboro's (Vivian and Cassie).

[Renmiri]

I just love their little crown popping out and landing on their head when they see you :D

[jessica85r]

I realy liked the assorted stone head monsters in the tombs. They just made me laugh for some reason.

The Ring Wyrms looked to me like something Fred Perry ( Gold Digger) would draw.

My favorites were the many undead in the Nabudise Deadlands. The wail they give when they die is creepy and had me fooled into thinking a party memebr had died a few times.

[Renmiri]

How about the Judges Helmet ?

http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/thumb/800px-Capture_13042007_184017.jpg

[Human Devil]

Well the little glowing rings around Yiazmat and Hell Wyrm are not cool, just plain weird and stupid. Thats when they took the ring thingy too far. Should have just kept it like the Shield Wyrm with a little more detail if thats the case.

[BizarroSephiroth]

Fafnir was awesome. Bringin back the old Behemoth design, even tho the new ones cool too, but what sticks out most for me in the bestiary is probably Diabolos, the Mark, the fiery wing imp. Flippin shweet!

[Finola]

The weapons are amazing though I'm quite at the beginning of the game but I think my WOW-reaction is just getting stronger. I hope there will be some really BIG swords. I mean something what Auron has. His wide katana would be great. I have only seen katana's that are narrow. Are there wide swords coming and in which direction on the licence board?
The monsters... there's some really nasty beasts- like the elements - grrr. I hate them cuz now I can't wander in peace through the lands cuz they attack in a nasty way. (I've played abut 40 hours.)
The bestiary is great though I haven't read the stuff about the monsters. But there's much information.
I don't like the look of them all. Can't remember any monster that looked really stupid but what looked really good was the happy bunny. Cutie!
Is there any negative results if you kill those friendly monsters?
What do you think about the chocobo form in 12? (or am I off-posting badly already). It runs in a funny way. The best chocobo is still in the IX.

[Xurts]

Well the little glowing rings around Yiazmat and Hell Wyrm are not cool, just plain weird and stupid. Thats when they took the ring thingy too far. Should have just kept it like the Shield Wyrm with a little more detail if thats the case.
They should've just not used them at all because they look incredibly gay.

[Hazzard]

They should've just not used them at all because they look incredibly gay.

They aren't gay dammit, and they look cool. Good move Square Enix!

[Xurts]

They should've just not used them at all because they look incredibly gay.

They aren't gay dammit, and they look cool terrible. Good Horrible move Square Enix!
Fixed it. :D

[Hazzard]

They should've just not used them at all because they look incredibly gay.

They aren't gay dammit, and they look cool terrible. Good Horrible move Square Enix!
Fixed it. :D

You sneaky little bi-...

[Savannah]

The enemies just look amazing and so original, the best enemies in the series i would say.

I would have liked the enemies a lot more if they hadn't reused designs in almost every area. To me, slightly tweaking the abilities of a Malboro, changing its color to pink and calling it "Cassie" does not a new creature make.

[Renmiri]

There are 385 beasts on XII, each of those with at least 2 or three different levels and I haven't counted yet but I'd estimate the beasts belong to at least a dozen radically different species.

It's just that to do the game properly takes sooo long you end up getting a bit jaded.

[Savannah]

There are 385 beasts on XII, each of those with at least 2 or three different levels and I haven't counted yet but I'd estimate the beasts belong to at least a dozen radically different species.

It's just that to do the game properly takes sooo long you end up getting a bit jaded.

That may be, but playing the game, all I really noticed that I was seeing the same T-rex, Coerul, Malboro, Wolf, etc. over and over again in different areas, just with new colors and difficulty levels. I feel like they wasted a lot of opportunity to make different-looking species. Some of them, though, were undeniably cool and unique.

[Hazzard]

Yeah, but sometimes it's better to have the same monsters, because that makes it more realistic and you can understand that the monsters breed, and can evolve into different forms of creatures (Colors, strengths, etc...)But they still keep their original look, and yeah, the wolfs did get a little boring.

[Lost Number]

I have nothing against the monsters in FFXII. When taken fully into consideration, even animals in our own world hold to certain types of general animal.Like, there are many variants of dog with a couple of mainly aesthetic differences. Whilst the game has its constraints of this, it is clear to see there are still many different types of enemy, and any differences between subspecies are explained.

[Renmiri]

The game is just way too big if you play it for the hunts and bestiary. You get a bit "overdosed" on it.

I noticed I like the game a lot more now that I haven't touched it for a month. But I definitely overdosed on it: 1,000 hours of gameplay.

[Xurts]

Yeah, but sometimes it's better to have the same monsters, because that makes it more realistic and you can understand that the monsters breed, and can evolve into different forms of creatures (Colors, strengths, etc...)But they still keep their original look, and yeah, the wolfs did get a little boring.
Yeah, it reminds me of some of the enemies in FF6.

[xxp0lanc0xx]

i agree thats in some ways but the monsters if you really look at it there all the same thing when you go to a new area just stronger and different colors but i think the wepons are great though i dont have a problem with them

[Renmiri]

There are less weapons than monsters. You just don't see them that often, and they do look a lot different from each other, even if they are of the same type.

Here Setz... this one is for you

http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/thumb/678px-Cidm.jpg

[Savannah]

they do look a lot different from each other, even if they are of the same type.

Do you honestly think that the turtles, for instance, really look that different from each other? Because I suspect you're just being stubborn at this point. :P

[Renmiri]

http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/thumb/120px-Xii13.jpghttp://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/thumb/120px-Xii246.jpghttp://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/thumb/120px-Xii198.jpg

There are over 40 species on the game.
* Cactus
* Crystalbug
* Piranha
* Wolf
* Tyrant
* Cockatrice
* Elemental
* Diver (bird)
* Gator
* Dreamhare
* Titantoise
* Sleipnir
* Serpent
* Behemoth
* Urstrix
* Slaven
* Rat
* Toad
* Malboro
* Gargoyle
* Ghost
* Steeling
* Mimic
* Zombie
* Skeleton
* Flan
* Bomb
* Headless
* Mantis
* Reaper
* Mandragora
* Yensa
* Wyvern
* Zombie
* Facer
* Chocobo
* Coeurl
* Golem
* Plate Wyrm
* Nightmare
* Fell Wyrm
* Guardian

[Formalhaut]

I LOVE balthier's guns, they are awesome!! Loom at them:



http://www.ffxii.us/equipment/images/big/guns.jpg




Pics got by Final Fantasy XII US, the best in weaponry imagery. :)

[Renmiri]

Pics got by Final Fantasy XII US, the best in weaponry imagery. :)

I beg to differ :love:

My wiki pwns them (http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/index.php/FFXII/Weapons/Gallery) :mad:

http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/XIIw146.jpg

http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/XIIw14.jpg

[_Einhänder]

I swear if anyone makes a 1/1 scale replica with those guns, I'd be all over it.

[Renmiri]

They had Yuna's guns for sale in Japan but I think it was just a souped up game controller

http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/thumb/150px-Tinybee1.jpg

[_Einhänder]

yeah I think was just a fancier game controller :D I've seen those a while back.

[Northcrest]

Whoa how'd you get that? To answer your question that does look pretty neat.

[Formalhaut]

Pics got by Final Fantasy XII US, the best in weaponry imagery. :)

I beg to differ :love:

My wiki pwns them (http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/index.php/FFXII/Weapons/Gallery) :mad:

http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/XIIw146.jpg

http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/XIIw14.jpg


Just trying to find the pic you want is hard enough :rolleyes2

[Renmiri]

Well with you helping we can name them all :D

[Formalhaut]

yay!

[Dynast-Kid]

Hey Renmiri, got any good pics of Vinuskar?

Vinuskar was IMHO the most unique and creative of all of the enemies in FFXII. A dragon with peacock feathers and heads for hands? Too cool...Too bad he didn't have more screen time.:(

His battle was unique too.

[Renmiri]

Indeed I do :D

The bestiary card
http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/Xii287.jpg

And some 3D model views
http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/Capture_01062007_195738.jpg
http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/Capture_01062007_200116.jpg
http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/Capture_01062007_200018.jpg

[Dynast-Kid]

Indeed I do :D

The bestiary card
http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/Xii287.jpg

And some 3D model views
http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/Capture_01062007_195738.jpg
http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/Capture_01062007_200116.jpg
http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/Capture_01062007_200018.jpg

Oooh, thanks!

How do you get these awesome 3D models?! Do you do it yourself?

[Formalhaut]

She "rips" it out of the game. I don't know how, and I dont really want to.

[Bolivar]

Wow...

On the judges scan...is the bottom right the normal judge armor that Balthier would've worn?

why won't they translate the ultimania omega guide for the states?

[Renmiri]

Oh! It could be. But on the Ultimania they put characters close to pictures to give you an idea of height too...

http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/images/Frogf.jpg

[Crescennt]

I loved the bestiary!

So much time was spend just thinking up the habits and biology of some of the monsters. I liked the little jokes and background info spread around in it. Didn't read all of it yet, but I'm sure some people did :P

[hotspot]

Yeah i agree, final fantasy 12 does have great monster bestiaries and monster designs.
and the weapons are cool too, but i think it would've been cooler if they added throwing knives or boomerangs.