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Tifa's Real Lover(really
04-28-2007, 10:12 PM
comes out next week:cool:

all my friends are gonna see it opening day, im gonna see it the following week with the family when the crowd isnt as crazy

hope the movie is awesome as i expect it to be

Chakan the forever man
04-28-2007, 10:24 PM
I am in high anticipation. However, I have a great sense of antipathy towards the Green Goblin's appearance. He looks ridiculous.

Dreddz
04-28-2007, 10:29 PM
I guess Ill probably be seeing it next weekend. The closer it gets, the more I dread the idea that the movie will suck.

Shin Gouken
04-28-2007, 11:01 PM
yar am takin a girl to go see it :) i have no doubt it will be an enjoyable film but im not expecting something spectacular... would be nice though

I Don't Need A Name
04-28-2007, 11:03 PM
I am in high anticipation. However, I have a great sense of antipathy towards the Green Goblin's appearance. He looks ridiculous.

that he does! hoverboard thing!? wtf?
being a huge fan of the comics, im skeptical but i reckon it should be ok

NeoCracker
04-28-2007, 11:11 PM
Its finally reflecting the Cartoon. Not just one beefy villain, but 3. He never had it easy in the Cartoon, no way in hell he should in the movies.

Though I still need to see 2.

Ashley Schovitz
04-30-2007, 01:42 AM
This is the most exploited movie that I've ever seen Not only is it the most shown preview on TV, there's commercials all over the internet for it. There's a whole aisle in Wal Mart with specialized merchandise just for it, and the game is being brought to about ever console known to man. Damn they must really think they're going to get paid big for this!

Del Murder
04-30-2007, 01:45 AM
And they will.

I probably won't go see it opening weekend, but a little later.

Spammerman
04-30-2007, 01:46 AM
and the game is being brought to about ever console known to man. Damn they must really think they're going to get paid big for this!

Seriously?!?!?! I cant wait to get it on my Atari!!!

Nominus Experse
04-30-2007, 05:02 AM
Venom isn't the Venom found in the comics I read, but that one small difference will not withhold me from watching it all the same.

XxSephirothxX
04-30-2007, 05:13 AM
Well, he's Eddie Brock, so it's not like a different person. But Topher Grace definitely isn't as buff as the comic character. Regardless, Spider-man 3 is going to be awesome. My friends and I already have tickets for a midnight showing on Thursday. Something like 8 of us going. :p

El Bandito
04-30-2007, 09:14 AM
However, I have a great sense of antipathy towards the Green Goblin's appearance. He looks ridiculous.

If you watched the exclusive preview that NBC had before, it detailed the first Goblin vs. Spidey fight in the movie. Based off that, I don't think he'll disappoint.

But yeah, ultra psyched. Going to the midnight show Thursday at the Giant Screen theater with a pretty big group. I hope folks dress up like at Star Wars.

Breine
04-30-2007, 02:16 PM
I'll definitely go see it sometime soon. The first one was good, the second one was great and if this tendency keeps on going it'll most definitely be a fantastic ride.

McLovin'
04-30-2007, 03:55 PM
It's out for me today. :)

So I'll be seeing it today.

Flying Mullet
04-30-2007, 04:01 PM
Most of the reviews I've heard so far have put it at "meh". It's a good popcorn flick but not as good as the first two movies.

I'll still go see it though. :)

bipper
04-30-2007, 04:57 PM
screw meh, it lookfs fing awesome. If nothing else, it will have the too much action syndrom going on. So naturally, those over paid whiny sons of bitches that make a living thinking and reviewing for us will whine :D

but yeah, I get to see a pre-screening Wednesday night (shortly after my divorce hearing :D ) at the Great Clips IMAX theater. Just a work perk, but a hella good one.

Dreddz
04-30-2007, 05:03 PM
The review are generally positive. Im officially stoked.

Sergeant Hartman
04-30-2007, 05:12 PM
Needs more Carnage.

Germ Hamee
04-30-2007, 11:38 PM
I wasn't a big fan of the first two movies at all, and there are SO many clips available that I almost think it's pointless to pay 8 dollars to see the movie when I can just open up youtube.

But... Venom...

Yeah, I'll be there. :mad:

XxSephirothxX
04-30-2007, 11:44 PM
Most of the reviews I've heard so far have put it at "meh". It's a good popcorn flick but not as good as the first two movies.

I'll still go see it though. :)
Currently, at least on Rottentomatoes, the general feeling hardly seems to be "meh," but it's not receiving the almost unanimous thumb's up the second received.

Sefie1999AD
05-01-2007, 05:02 PM
I'm going to see the movie, probably within a week, but I'll try not to have too high expectations of the movie. First, Spider-Man 2 was such a great movie that it's hard to surpass, and second, having 3 villains and loads of storylines means that the movie could end up really rushed, with tons of flashy action scenes and a weak plot.

*ETERNAL FANTASY*
05-03-2007, 10:00 AM
i just got back from watching it! Its pretty awesome! The movie did juggle the three villians (well 2, venom and sandman! they've been setting up harry since the secong one) pretty well! The effects were spectacular and Pete was still Pete! Venom turned out better than i expected! But yeah i'd be ok if they left it with the third, actually they made it like if 3 was done it would be ok and if they were making a fourth one they still had some material from the third movie to deal with!

earlier there someone said someone died in 3 and will come back in 4 (but i doubt it! you'll see) but gwen stacy does NOT die in this one i repeat shes alive and kickin....and beautiful i might add lol

Overall though its a solid movie...a solid trilogy! tied up stuff well! oh and did i mention the fights that were going on were awesome!? though i doubt thats all you came to see!

Bunny
05-03-2007, 12:27 PM
Its finally reflecting the Cartoon. Not just one beefy villain, but 3. He never had it easy in the Cartoon, no way in hell he should in the movies.

Though I still need to see 2.

Don't bother, Spider-Man 2 sucked.



Most of the reviews I've heard so far have put it at "meh". It's a good popcorn flick but not as good as the first two movies.

I'll still go see it though. :)
Currently, at least on Rottentomatoes, the general feeling hardly seems to be "meh," but it's not receiving the almost unanimous thumb's up the second received.

Which is funny because Spider-Man 2 sucked. :P

I'm not anticipating it nor am I saying I'll never see it. Maybe when it comes out on DVD or something. Television? *shrug*

Raebus
05-03-2007, 02:42 PM
Oh man, bunny must be right with the spiderman 2 sucking, it must be why it was generally well recieved and got fairly high scores.

Bunny
05-03-2007, 02:48 PM
Sorry for forming my own opinion about movies and not taking Roger and Ebert's every word for truth.

edczxcvbnm
05-03-2007, 08:17 PM
Sorry for forming my own opinion about movies and not taking Roger and Ebert's every word for truth.

It is actually Ebert and Roeper. Roger is Ebert's First name. If I am not mistaken he gave Spiderman one a thumbs down.

Shoeberto
05-03-2007, 08:32 PM
Well, he's Eddie Brock, so it's not like a different person. But Topher Grace definitely isn't as buff as the comic character.
Eddie actually appeared in the first film at the Daily Bugle (very briefly), so I guess it is a different person since Topher is taking over.

Gonna see it tonight at a midnight screening. :up:

Big D
05-04-2007, 02:17 AM
I'll most likely see it fairly soon.
A preview clip on Letterman this week showed the scene where Pete rescues Bryce Howard's character from a collapsing building... visually, I was very much reminded of <i>Advent Children</i>'s duel amidst the crumbling wall of the Shinra building. It'll be interesting to see that scene in its entirety...

4evarisha
05-04-2007, 02:45 AM
I am going to go watch it tommoroww.

Bunny
05-04-2007, 03:22 AM
Sorry for forming my own opinion about movies and not taking Roger and Ebert's every word for truth.

It is actually Ebert and Roeper. Roger is Ebert's First name. If I am not mistaken he gave Spiderman one a thumbs down.

Alright, cool. I don't really pay attention to critics because the opinions of others don't really matter to me. I probably should've checked what I was doing but I might've been busy when I posted that, I cannot remember. Oh well.

Roto13
05-04-2007, 03:32 AM
The theater in my town doesn't usually get movies their opening weekend, but they seem to try with superhero movies and they managed to snag a copy of Spiderman 3 for this weekend. Whoo hoo! I can't wait. I'm actually going to rewatch the first two over the next two days.

I Took the Red Pill
05-04-2007, 07:53 AM
Just saw the midnight showing. This movie blows, especially in comparison to the other two.

Ishin Ookami
05-04-2007, 08:16 AM
I just got out of the midnight showing of SM3. In a word, effing awesome( kay, I know thats two words, but you get the point). Easily on par with SM2.

I literally don't have anything bad to say bout the film. Everything just worked so flawlessly. The action, the dialouge, the villains and the comedy. It was pure brilliance.

Though I swear bruce campbell is playing the chameleon and is stalking Peter Parker for some reason.

The Shoeless Hobo
05-04-2007, 02:51 PM
saw it yesterday. effing awesome. so good i almost cried. stan lees cameo was hilarious, he randomly walks into the shot says one line to peter parker and walks away. Bruce campbell is a god as always. it' so good seeing how far raimi has come since evil dead and crimewave.

XxSephirothxX
05-04-2007, 07:39 PM
It doesn't blow, but it wasn't awesome, either. It was just really off-kilter. One of my friends said he thought that the entire thing was intentional, that after the really serious Spiderman 2, which really transcended the "comic book movie" genre and was a fucking solid movie in its own right, he's taken the third one and gone for the totally ridiculous over-the-top feel. I don't know.

About 75% of the movie is pretty good, and the rest is just handled poorly. There are some choices that just seem retarded: Spider-man emo hair? Retarded lines and delivery? James Franco's weird eyebrows? It could've been done better, definitely. The effects are amazing, and I personally loved Venom, but he's not in there enough. And Sandman just bothered me, too. I didn't have a problem with Thomas Hayden Church, but the implementation of him as a villain just wasn't done that well.

If you're going for the fight scenes, you'll love it. And some of the movie is pretty damn funny, though I don't think every laugh is intentional. Even a few of the dramatic moments work, but there are more of them that don't. Just don't expect another Spider-man 2, and you'll leave the theater pleased. A masterpiece, it's not.

Discord
05-04-2007, 07:43 PM
Watching it in approx. 1:20 hours. Not that I'm a great fan of superheroes, but I'll tag along with the friends.:p

Dreddz
05-04-2007, 07:58 PM
Just got back from seeing it, I dunno what to think really. I didnt hate the film, but there was some moments during the loooong ass two and a half hours, I thought I did. There are alot of fights in the film, not all were great. I did like Venom though, but he just isnt in it enough. Hes spideys nemesis and he has to go back to back with two other villains, he should have a movie to himself. The other issue I have is the total butchery of the comic book story. This film just went way over board. And I guess the overly patriotic feel the movie had put me off, not hating on America, as I would feel this about any country, but spidey posing in front of the American flag made me cringe more than any other film since Independence Day.

Sefie1999AD
05-04-2007, 08:03 PM
I also watched the Spider-Man 3 movie today. I think the movie was pretty good, and it did some parts even better than Spider-Man 2 did, but as an overall, I still think SM2 is a better movie. The action sequences look awesome, and the movie takes its time showing how things are so well for Peter, how he eventually falls and is about to lose everything, and how he becomes a hero once again. I also liked the cameos of Stan Lee and Bruce Campbell. The latter was especially nice. :)

I think they should have shown more of the black Spider-Man, although the scenes where we see him are already powerful enough. I think Venom could have been done better, too, I didn't really like his graphics or his voice (not that I like his character, anyway). On a positive note, though, the ending is really touching and well done, IMHO. SM3 isn't a perfect movie, but it definitely isn't a letdown.

Ishin Ookami
05-04-2007, 08:34 PM
I don't think the film was off kilter at all. I mean sure Peter did some real stupid stuff in the film, but I think it felt natural. He's finally gotten acceptance and it's really gotten to his head. For a long time he's been an outsider and now he doesn't know how to deal with being Mr. Popularity.

I also felt the whole black costume bit was done in an excellent manner. I loved seeing peter act like such an arrogant dick. The hair made him truly look more sinister, so I didn't mind that.

I also felt all the characters were handled well. Snadman was given a great deal of depth, Venom I felt was handled about as well as he could have been. Considering how much he hates Peter, there is really no way you could have had him in the film for long without a Do or Die fight between the two. Having multiple confrontations would have just felt contrived, and having one mother of all battle between them was the best choice.

Harry was finally very cool, not annoying, not pathetic, not obsessed, just finally being very likeable. Brock was also an utter dick and I loved how peter just worked him over. And Jameson should have had more screen time, but he was still cool.

Overall, I'd say it really was perfect.

Shoeberto
05-04-2007, 11:14 PM
I liked it a lot. Moreso than SM2 - people may say it was brilliant, but to me it's always just felt like they took too much of a villain-of-the-week approach with Doc Ock. All of SM3's characters felt like they had a much closer tie to Pete.

Granted, when Pete went all bad dude, it was ridiculous to the point where it was almost embarassing to watch. The dance scene felt somewhat appropriate, but walking down the street etc. was stupid.

Also, it felt a lot like Venom could've been better fleshed out if the whole symbiote sage had been divided across two films. I thought they did plenty to establish Peter's struggle with the symbiote, but it was just way too late in the film before Brock got a hold of it, and it just felt like you didn't get to see nearly enough of him doing his thing.

The special effects were amazing, especially Sandman. I also really liked his part in the story.

I keep wishing they wouldn't continue with a fourth one, because at the end of Spidey 3, they close like the biggest points of continuity between all three films. There's still plenty of characters to explore, but they aren't nearly as important.

Strider
05-04-2007, 11:45 PM
I thought it was alright. Not as good as Spiderman 2, but y'know.

It seemed to me that this movie suffered a bit of what really bogged down the last X-Men film, trying to do too much at once, although not to the same extent. There were a few loose threads I wish would've been explored a little further, such as Sandman's motivations, but over the big picture I won't complain. I enjoyed myself, that's really all that matters.

Ouch!
05-04-2007, 11:47 PM
I'm hoping a new cast will pick up and keep going. I mean, Batman has been a new actor every time, the movies all stand alone, why can't they make a couple more Spider-Man movies that aren't dependent on the first three? There's loads more characters and villains to use.

Anyway, I'll see SM3 some time this weekend hopefully.

SeeDRankLou
05-05-2007, 12:58 AM
Saw it. Loved it. :D

Discord
05-05-2007, 01:05 AM
Just watched it. Well, apart from being 50% clichés 49% Sleepless in Seattle, it's a good film!

If you're a fan, you'll like it. If not, you might get a tiny little bit bored during some terribly tedious scenes. It’s not bad by any means though.

Slothy
05-05-2007, 12:54 PM
Best Spidey film yet as far as I'm concerned.


Granted, when Pete went all bad dude, it was ridiculous to the point where it was almost embarassing to watch. The dance scene felt somewhat appropriate, but walking down the street etc. was stupid.

Are you kidding? That was one of ths funniest parts of the movie for me. Not much of a Raimi fan are we?

Discord
05-05-2007, 02:44 PM
Here's what you need to know:

-=!MARY JANE DIES!=-

Now go and see the film.

Tifa's Real Lover(really
05-05-2007, 03:57 PM
god, everyone saying so awesome it is :cry:

BarelySeeAtAll
05-05-2007, 07:38 PM
sorry...
IT KICKS ASS!!!
my god, when i watched it today i was like...OMFG it was awesome....
BIG i loved the fact that venom was in it too, considering i HAD thought that the whole black suit thing was venom, but i was told i was wrong before the movie, and there he was when he took brock...so i was happy, since hes like, my fave marvel character for some reason
oh it owns..

Shin Gouken
05-05-2007, 07:49 PM
They never refer the symbiote or brock as venom :/ I was most exited about seeing venom but i wasn't overly impressed (though not nessessarily disappointed) The sandman was by far the best thing about it. They did an awesome job with him. If you werent goin to go and see it, i recomend you do purely for the sandman

BarelySeeAtAll
05-05-2007, 08:31 PM
well it sure reminded me of venom...when it was all, looking like it...i mean, it might be wrong cos im not really a great big fan of marvel but my bro did say it was...(though what does he know :p )

Roto13
05-06-2007, 01:13 AM
I just got back. Only one thing disappointed me. Venom. He wasn't much of a let down, but he never once said "We are Venom" (or "we" at all for that matter) and that left me feeling empty and suicidal.

I liked Sandman a lot more than I thought I would. I found him to be a pretty underrated character in the comics, but he was portrayed very well in the movie. Green-and-black striped shirt and all. I giggled when Peter was imagining Sandman killing Ben and he was still wearing that shirt. xD

There were a few cheesy parts, but I think those were intentionally cheesy so it's ok. Did you notice the weird looks everyone was giving evil Peter? When he came out of that store and started going all Fonzie on everyone and after he left that guy led his girlfriend into the store as if to say, "Just keep walking...."

Also, WTF where's Lovehurts? D:<

Shoeberto
05-06-2007, 01:25 AM
Granted, when Pete went all bad dude, it was ridiculous to the point where it was almost embarassing to watch. The dance scene felt somewhat appropriate, but walking down the street etc. was stupid.

Are you kidding? That was one of ths funniest parts of the movie for me. Not much of a Raimi fan are we?
Actually I am. Toby Macguire just isn't the kind of guy to pull something like that off well without looking like a doof.

On the other hand, Bruce's cameo was his best so far in the series. I totally got a John Cleese in Monty Python and the Holy Grail vibe there.

GooeyToast
05-06-2007, 02:30 AM
This movie was a complete let-down. I was laughing throughout the entire movie, especially the "dark Spiderman" sequence. It's almost as if they were trying to make this movie intentionally ridiculous.

Roto13
05-06-2007, 03:10 AM
This movie was a complete let-down. I was laughing throughout the entire movie, especially the "dark Spiderman" sequence. It's almost as if they were trying to make this movie intentionally ridiculous.
They were.

Shiny
05-06-2007, 04:53 AM
More Venom, please! Throw some Shocker and Carnage in there too. I still think Spiderman was better, but Spiderman 3 was definitely better than 2.

Mo-Nercy
05-06-2007, 10:37 AM
It was quite good. I thought the New Goblin was pretty slick.

It would've been cool for for Venom to refer to himself in the first person plural (we, us etc.) like in the comics.

I'm quite easily impressed though. "wow, flamethrower hoverboard!"

Mirage
05-06-2007, 10:58 AM
I thought it was good. Not as great as the second, but still a worthy Spiderman movie. I would have liked to get to know more about the "black stuff from space" though, it seemed kinda out of place.

Oh yeah, that "American flag" thing made me laugh. Sorry, but that was just plain stupid.

Craig
05-06-2007, 11:42 AM
Venom was lame. Supposedly one of the most badass villains ever or whatever, and all he does is become Venom, has a little chat Sandman then causes a little bit of mayhem before being killed by noise.

BarelySeeAtAll
05-06-2007, 12:00 PM
ya i thought there should have been a little bit more of venom :(
i am still wondering why there wasnt many people there when we went to watch it, i mean, the second day of its release and not many were there, damn them all they dont know what they are missing :mad2:

aquatius
05-06-2007, 01:23 PM
Ahh... I went to see this with 6 friends and we all agreed it sucked ass. The only bit I found funny was after the sandman guy had got zapped in that testing place and just as everyone went silent my friend said in a funny voice "oh dear!". The timing was perfect, but the rest of the movie sucked.

Slothy
05-06-2007, 01:45 PM
Toby Macguire just isn't the kind of guy to pull something like that off well without looking like a doof.

On the other hand, Bruce's cameo was his best so far in the series. I totally got a John Cleese in Monty Python and the Holy Grail vibe there.

I'm pretty sure that was the point, but to each his own. Agreed on Bruce's cameo though. It was the best of all of the movies.

Elite Lord Sigma
05-06-2007, 02:04 PM
Well, I'm seeing it tonight. However, I am getting the feeling that most people who give it bad reviews have no idea about what the source material is about. Sure, if Venom doesn't use the first-person plural form to refer to himself, that's a minor letdown, but that one detail shouldn't drive you to drown the movie in hate.

Ashley Schovitz
05-06-2007, 04:24 PM
I saw the movie yesterday and it was the bomb, I mgiht say it's best it could be, I thought it would be too out there with 3 villains, but it only really seemed to have tow, the Hob Goblin didn't stay one for long.

BTW did Toby play both Peter Parker and Eddie in the movie?, they looked like twins except that Eddie had blond hair and was taller than Pete.

Roto13
05-06-2007, 04:30 PM
Venom was lame. Supposedly one of the most badass villains ever or whatever, and all he does is become Venom, has a little chat Sandman then causes a little bit of mayhem before being killed by noise.

He was always sensitive to noise.

Tavrobel
05-06-2007, 04:52 PM
BTW did Toby play both Peter Parker and Eddie in the movie?, they looked like twins except that Eddie had blond hair and was taller than Pete.

Eddie is played by Topher Grace (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0333410/) who was on That 70's Show and other TV and movie stuff.

I thought the movie was hilarious. Didn't get past the second movie, but was enjoyable.

Slothy
05-06-2007, 05:48 PM
I thought it would be too out there with 3 villains, but it only really seemed to have tow, the Hob Goblin didn't stay one for long.

Harry's not the Hobgoblin and never was outside of the Ultimate comics (which don't really count here).

Doomie
05-06-2007, 05:54 PM
I thought it was really, really bad, and nowhere near Spiderman 2. They just ruined Venom for me. Topher Grace was just fantastic, but I feel they ruined the whole sadistic aura you're supposed to feel when Peter Parker is being controlled by Venom.

McLovin'
05-06-2007, 07:04 PM
Spiderman 2 will always be the best. This wasn't as good. Such a pity.

Araciel
05-06-2007, 09:47 PM
best in the series so far for a plethora of reasons that evidently, people who have already posted wouldn't see anyway, which is all opinion anyway, and so i'm not miffed. but i loved it.

Craig
05-07-2007, 12:16 AM
Venom was lame. Supposedly one of the most badass villains ever or whatever, and all he does is become Venom, has a little chat Sandman then causes a little bit of mayhem before being killed by noise.

He was always sensitive to noise.

I know, it just made my point look better.

Ishin Ookami
05-07-2007, 06:27 AM
Venom was lame. Supposedly one of the most badass villains ever or whatever, and all he does is become Venom, has a little chat Sandman then causes a little bit of mayhem before being killed by noise.

He was always sensitive to noise.

I know, it just made my point look better.

Actually more to the point, the suit is sensitive to intense sonics. Which is why the bells made it retreat off Peter in the Bell Tower. After that Peter was hip to it's weakness.

And I'll say it again, there really only could have been one fight between the two. Marvel keeps resurrecting characters, and keeps them around for too long and it just comes off as being contrived. Venom hates Spidey on a psychotic level and there really is no excuse for having venom around for so many years without having had one kill the other by this point. To keep the film making sense, there really only could have been one fight to the death between the two. Have we learned nothing from the rocky films? Let one great fight be enough and leave it at that.

Germ Hamee
05-07-2007, 09:28 AM
I'm totally on the fence about this movie. =\

Let me first say that I grew up as a huge Spider-Man fan, and I completely despised the first two movies. I enjoyed this movie a great deal more than the previous.

In fact, I liked it a lot, but for all the wrong reasons. It was friggen hilarious. Peter Parker's naughty trip was so over the top. I felt like I was watching the Buffy musical, and during that scene with him and Gwen at the Jazz restaurant, I half expected Tobey to burst into song.

I mainly went to see this movie due to the introduction to Venom, and this was where the movie ultimately failed me and leaves me entirely iffy. I was hoping that it would only be an introduction, leading into a fourth movie with lots of Venom goodness. No. Venom was almost entirely ignored and lasted like two days Spidey-time. I didn't get the psychotic feeling from Venom. There was no crazy tongue action. The backstory was almost completely ignored, and there were way too many coincidences leading to the symbiote bonding with Brock. It was infuriating to see Venom thrown away so effortlessly.

Then again, I was very impressed with Harry's character developments. You can have the sappy love story, or the spidey-gone bad tragedy. It was Harry that ultimately caught my attention and stood out the most.

So, pretty much the only thing I can decide for certain is that I'm not interested in seeing any future Spider-Man movies - should they be filmed. Venom was like the Dark Phoenix Saga of Spider-Man, and for me, is the end-all-be-all story the movies could have done. They've sufficiently disappointed me with that (just like X-Men did), and I can safely say that any future villains or arcs they decide to pursue would just bore me to tears.

Nominus Experse
05-07-2007, 09:47 AM
I watched it last night, and all I can say is this:

Bleh


WTF HAPPENED TO VENOM GOD DAMMIT!
1) He's not big enough
2) Where's the tongue?
3) Where's the back-story that shows the suit's bizarre sense of justice?
4) Why is he not explained properly?
5) Since when did it make Paker have an emo fashion sense?
6) Why is he given next to no screen-time?
7) Why was this movie embarrassing to watch?

Honestly, if I were someone who knew nothing about Venom, I wouldn't have much of a clue as to what the hell Venom is and what it wants. I would only know that it's bad because it's made Parker an idiot.

Craig
05-07-2007, 12:36 PM
lol, me and my friends were walking to the pub last night and 2 guys walked past and said to us "If you're going to see Spiderman, don't bother it's rubbish."

Spammerman
05-07-2007, 12:54 PM
Imo, they shouldve have left Venom alive, that way he could spawn carnage, then carnage could spawn Toxin, and they could have maybe 2 more movies. ( venom and carnage, then venom carnage and toxin).

Spawn of Sephiroth
05-07-2007, 01:25 PM
Yeah, they should have left Venom alive, not the sandman. Oh well, I saw it opening night and it was FREAKING AWESOME. And I am going to see it again Wednesday.

Dreddz
05-07-2007, 01:39 PM
Imo, they shouldve have left Venom alive, that way he could spawn carnage, then carnage could spawn Toxin, and they could have maybe 2 more movies. ( venom and carnage, then venom carnage and toxin).


I dont think they should go too far into all the Symbiotes of the Spiderman series. Firstly because that part of the story gets so stupid and silly when they start introducing the Symbiotes offspring. Carnage actually gives birth to Toxin, and hes a guy. It gets way messed up. And you'd feel a sense of déjà vu when more of them are introduced, and most likely get bored after a while.

Slothy
05-07-2007, 02:01 PM
WTF HAPPENED TO VENOM GOD DAMMIT!
1) He's not big enough
2) Where's the tongue?
3) Where's the back-story that shows the suit's bizarre sense of justice?
4) Why is he not explained properly?
5) Since when did it make Paker have an emo fashion sense?
6) Why is he given next to no screen-time?
7) Why was this movie embarrassing to watch?


I'm almost going to have to take this one point by point.

1) He was never overly large, and incredibly dispoportionate in the original story arc. That came later, and would look utterly rediculous in the movie. How is a suit that's never shown to do anything other than cling to it's wearers skin supposed to add enough mass to Topher Grace to make him look like the modern version of Venom? This works better anyway if you ask me. The whole movie set Brock up as sort of a mirror for Peter. They both have had some very rough times in their lives, but Peter handled it well and Brock chose to blame someone else for everything and seek revenge. Brock is sort of a "what if Peter didn't accept the great responsibility that comes with his power".

2)He didn't have the tongue in the original story arc and he looked all the more menacing (and much less like Gene Simmons) for it. It's probably not there since they drew a lot of inspiration from the original story arc, and the design is all the better for it as far as I'm concerned. The tongue just looks rediculous.

3)The suit never had a bizarre sense of justice in the beginning. It wanted to bond to Peter, but his rejection of it led to it hating him and wanting revenge, making it a perfect match for Brock who hated Spider-man for ruining his life (as he saw it). The anti-hero crap came later and was the worst thing they ever did with the character. Venom only works as a foil for Peter/Spider-man as far as I'm concerned.

4)I'm not even sure what you mean by this one? They gave the character all the screen time and explanation he needed to set up his backstory and why he's doing what he's doing.

6)He had quite a bit as far as I'm concerned (as Brock anyway). The actual villian of Venom isn't really, but then neither are Sandman or the Goblin given a whole lot of screentime showcasing their powers. The reason is that giving them more screentime in that capacity would mean more fights as opposed to things like character development and story. Venom and Sandman were about equal in screentime if you ask me, with Harry obviously getting more.

7)I thought it was funny. :p

Nominus Experse
05-07-2007, 05:45 PM
Hmm, I seemed to have never read the original story arc then. The comic world tends to become convoluted as time passes, and as a young lad, all I did was read and enjoy what comics I found - it was never to the point of being analytical or checking for cohesiveness. My favourite aspect of Spiderman was Venom. I read the comics because I was completely and utterly infatuated with this character.

It would seem that I read the comics that took a more hulking, bizarre view of what Venom was. It could have been a strange, random off branch series that ran for a while - I don't particularly know or care. I simply recall Venom being what he was as I saw him then - ten or more years ago - and he doesn't quite match with the one depicted in the movie.

I like the Venom shown in the comics I read as a young boy much better. He was stranger, and the way he dripped like thick ink just rang better than crawling goop to me - but that latter point is a matter of personal opinion, nothing more. And the tongue. I loved the tongue.


But in the end, I can see how the Venom I read might not make sense in the movie, especially if they decided to draw from the original arc of the story instead.



On a side note, I do not believe they would be able to bring Carnage into the next films, as he was utterly insane. It would have to rated R to truly give the scope of what madness Carnage was.

Additionally, Venom is now kaput....

Slothy
05-07-2007, 06:27 PM
I wasn't really trying to rip into your opinion or anything, I just thought I'd give a little of the background on the original Venom arc for you and others who may not have read it (it's out now in trade paperback though if anyone is interested in picking it up). Don't get me wrong, when I was a kid growing up I had the same fascination with Venom you did, but as I got older my opinions on the character started to change and I started to see him as pretty uninteresting as a character on his own and as an anti-hero. It was only a few years ago that I read the original arc myself, but once I did, it pretty much sealed my dislike for everything they did with him since. There was a sense in the original arc that he had truly lost it and become someone twisted totally by his hate and need for vengeance. In fact, I found it hard to believe he had been made into a "hero" at all after that arc as there was something truly twisted and disturbing about him then. Since reading it, that story has been one of my favourites, representing essentially everything I think was great about the character when he was originally introduced and I was happy to see the movie version take so much from that story, including ditching the tongue, and rediculous proportions.

It may not be to everyone's tastes, but I think it suited what they were trying to do with the character.

Nominus Experse
05-07-2007, 06:56 PM
Oh, I didn't feel as though my opinion was being torn to pieces. Your post was rather enlightening, really.

And not everyone can agree with Venom using his tongue as an actual weapon. Even as much as I love Venom, I found that a little weird.

edczxcvbnm
05-07-2007, 07:38 PM
Some sources are already pinning the next villains in Spider-man 4 as The Lizard and Carnage.

Comet
05-07-2007, 09:30 PM
The movie was great. I enjoyed every minute of it, and it didn't rush things. It kept everything in pace, throughout the whole 139 minutes of entertainment.

Spammerman
05-07-2007, 09:39 PM
Realizing it now

A) Venom was like a sadistic cartoon star, tentacles and an long, long tongue;)

B) IS carnage gonna be brought form teh sample of Venom left with Conners?

Hazzard
05-07-2007, 09:46 PM
Me and Comet saw it today. The whole movie was well acted, and Toby Maguire performed greatly in the film; the humor transmitted into the story was great, and how they incorporated passion, hardcore action and witty moments into the film. Overall, it is a must-see film and is the best out of the three of them, at the moment.

Comet
05-07-2007, 09:52 PM
Realizing it now

A) Venom was like a sadistic cartoon star, tentacles and an long, long tongue;)

B) IS carnage gonna be brought form teh sample of Venom left with Conners?

Yes, apparently, the piece of venom that Dr Connors has, will turn into carnage.

Roto13
05-07-2007, 09:56 PM
I find it really weird that people are complaining that the intentionally funny and cheesy parts are funny and cheesy. >_> If you laughed at Evil Peter, then they did what they meant to do.

Ouch!
05-07-2007, 09:57 PM
The only reason I was interested in seeing this movie was for Venom, but I keep hearing more and more about how disappointing he is. The only people who have told me Venom was cool are those who barely know anything about him. I think I'm gonna wait 'til it comes out on DVD.

Spammerman
05-07-2007, 10:01 PM
I find it really weird that people are complaining that the intentionally funny and cheesy parts are funny and cheesy. >_> If you laughed at Evil Peter, then they did what they meant to do.

I laughed at the wrong and right parts.

For example, when Harry's butler says "I loved your father, as I have loved you." I cracked up for like 10 min.

Roto13
05-07-2007, 10:02 PM
Yeah, the butler part was the bad kind of cheesy. :P He's not developed enough to be able to say that. He's no Alfred.

Shin Gouken
05-07-2007, 10:14 PM
Venom was large but to be fair Eddie Brock is much larger then how they portrayed him on screen too. He's a body builder if i remember correctly and was twice the size of "puny parker".

Slothy
05-07-2007, 10:16 PM
The only people who have told me Venom was cool are those who barely know anything about him. I think I'm gonna wait 'til it comes out on DVD.

I'm telling you Venom was cool, and I probably know more about him than just about anyone here.

GooeyToast
05-07-2007, 10:17 PM
I find it really weird that people are complaining that the intentionally funny and cheesy parts are funny and cheesy. >_> If you laughed at Evil Peter, then they did what they meant to do.

I laughed at the wrong and right parts.

For example, when Harry's butler says "I loved your father, as I have loved you." I cracked up for like 10 min.

Same here. The guy just came out of nowhere. Seriously, if he had this piece of information, why not tell him months ago?

I was also laughing at the whole Venom/Sandman/Spiderman fight sequence. Topher Grace as Venom was hilarious to me, and those random kids that said "wicked cool" were so stupid.

Hazzard
05-07-2007, 10:18 PM
The butler was just freaking me about, when he said how he loved Harry. He also knows too much, and is a little to intimate for my liking.

Evil Peter was fantastic, I really enjoyed that part!

The kids obviously couldn't act, and Jameson was struggling to make that scene funny with the little girl.

Raebus
05-08-2007, 01:48 PM
I seriously adored this movie, I just kept laughing really and it was one of the best recent cinema experiences i've witnessed and took part in. The whole evil park moments = Lawl and it was still pretty entertaining, so a great movie really.

BakerMan
05-09-2007, 04:36 AM
I thought this movie sucked. I was hoping this would be as good as or better than the first two but i have to admit that this third one turned me off of the series.

I can describe the sucky-ness in three words " I forgive you " (you have to see the movie to understand)

Sure some nice fight scenes, but overall it lacked in being both realistic (even for a comic book based movie) and in a good storyline.

Raebus
05-09-2007, 11:19 AM
Ye gawds, a movie about a person with super powers isnt realistic?! Face it, every movie is somewhat unrealistic, action movies with gunplay? Their usually isnt that many bullets and romance movies? Nothing works out THAT well.

Acid Raine
05-09-2007, 12:31 PM
I saw it with my dad last Sunday. It was unenjoyable from start to finish.

First off I got completly SCREWED on my seating. He and I got there late, so it took a long time to find seats, but once we finally found two that were together, the tricky bastard takes the good one and left me the shaft. To my left I had him (of course). To my right I had some whale of a lady who had trouble breathing so it sounded like a hairdryer was right next to me the whole time. In front of me I had some inconsiderate wench who kept leaning back in her seat and crushing my knees. Behind me there was some 3 or 4 year old girl who despite not making a sound like other little kids, kept RAMMING MY SEAT LIKE IT WAS GOING OUT OF STYLE!!!!

Second, it was just TOO corny. The attempts at humor just looked awkward and drawn out. Like that thing with JJ and the girl with the camera. I felt like I was watching bad sketch comedy. They shouldve just left it with him surrounded by people taking photos and him saying "I need a camera". And that whole dance in the club thing. That was hard to watch.

Also really awkward when it attempted to be dark and dramatic. Example? After that sewer fight with Sandman. WTF was up with the "Good riddance"? I started (loudly) cracking up at how stupid that was, and let me tell you, in a silent crowded theater, that isnt the best idea.

The end was TOO! LONG! I know every movie like this has to have the "soft music emotional sad scene", but it was just too much. The movie was 2 1/2 hours long, and could have been cut down a good bit just by getting rid of those dramatic pauses.

Spiffing Cheese
05-11-2007, 08:21 PM
Tobey Maguire annoyed me so much in this film I was cringing in my seat. Oh, christ. The dancing down the street scene? It was embarrassing. I could hardly watch. xD

It was alright apart from that. Meh.


can describe the sucky-ness in three words " I forgive you "

Oh, god. I agree.

I Took the Red Pill
05-11-2007, 10:19 PM
I will say it again, I couldn't stand this movie. But if Peter's professor is the villain in the next one as The Lizard, there's a possibility of redemption.

Also, tell me I am not the only one who cracked up every time the Stephen Colbert-esque portrait of Norman Osborn came onscreen.

Jings
05-12-2007, 02:32 AM
Went to see it earlier this evening and thought it was excellent. There were some genuinely funny moments (for all the right reasons) and more fight scenes than I can remember.

When I go see an action hero movie I'm not expecting to see a realistic movie and anyone who is is in for a real dissapointment. This movie, for me anyway, was just non-stop fun.

Roto13
05-12-2007, 04:44 AM
Exactly. That's what it was. It was fun. It was a fun movie. To dislike this movie is to dislike fun.

ljkkjlcm9
05-12-2007, 04:47 AM
The Midside (http://themidside.blogspot.com)

I know it's a blog, but still

THE JACKEL

Miriel
05-12-2007, 07:55 AM
Best part of the movie... FREAKIN' HAL FISHMAN! Hell yeah, Hal! Report that Spidey news. :D

I laughed a lot in this movie, more than most of the people in the theater. I found a lot of it to be unintentionally funny. I also found a lot of it to not make much sense. I cannot believe that Peter would be SO amazingly stupid as to kiss another girl in front of his girlfriend. Too stupid to swallow that crap. It also didn't make sense to me why the Sand dude would risk innocent lives to kill Spiderman when in the end all he wanted to do was apologize. Just didn't flow.

I also thought it ended horribly.

But otherwise it was a good movie. Second one was better though.

Oh oh! And that mini flashback right at the end of the final battle where Spider sees how Venon is reacting to the ringing was unncessary like whoa.

It was basically screaming at the audience, HEY STUPIDS REMEMBER THE SCENE 10 MINUTES AGO WITH SPIDEY AND THE BELL??? WELL IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER NOW, OK?? GET IT? GET IT????????

Del Murder
05-12-2007, 08:05 AM
I thought Venom was handled pretty well. What more can you expect in a translation from years of comic books to a two hour movie? In the begining I thought that this movie would be about the black suit and the next one about Venom, but I realize how that couldn't happen. There's just not enough there for Venom to carry an entire movie. Eddie's character was established fine enough, the hatred for Peter was done really well, and the resulting mayhem caused by them was pretty intense. I wish they didn't have to vaporize him, but whatever, it's the movie world, things go quickly.

The ending was pretty cheesy. The whole thing had a lot of cheese. The evil Peter sequences were dumb, but I'm glad they established his change with the symbiote.

I was impressed with Sandman.

Overall this movie was not as good as the other two but I enjoyed it.

Slothy
05-12-2007, 02:24 PM
It also didn't make sense to me why the Sand dude would risk innocent lives to kill Spiderman when in the end all he wanted to do was apologize.

I'm sorry, but how far would you go to try and save your dying daughter? It made perfect sense to me that he would try to kill Spidey since he was standing in his way and had already beaten him once.And if you didn't notice, the general public were pretty far back from that construction site. The only innocent life he was really risking as he would have seen it was MJ's. He wasn't a bad person though, just someone desperate to help his daughter and given the power to do it the only way he knew how, and although it was wrong, he realized it in the end.

Comet
05-12-2007, 02:44 PM
What was weird is when Gwen Stacy was hanging off some talllll building, and Captain Stacy and Eddie had a casual conversation about Eddie dating her. Then she was saved and came back down on the concrete and gave a 1 second hug to Eddie, and he started to talk to spiderman instead of her.

Miriel
05-12-2007, 07:22 PM
It also didn't make sense to me why the Sand dude would risk innocent lives to kill Spiderman when in the end all he wanted to do was apologize.

I'm sorry, but how far would you go to try and save your dying daughter? It made perfect sense to me that he would try to kill Spidey since he was standing in his way and had already beaten him once.And if you didn't notice, the general public were pretty far back from that construction site. The only innocent life he was really risking as he would have seen it was MJ's. He wasn't a bad person though, just someone desperate to help his daughter and given the power to do it the only way he knew how, and although it was wrong, he realized it in the end.

I'm sorry, but stealing money to save your daughter, yeah that makes sense, taking a hostage and doing (probably) billions of dollars in damage to kill Spiderman only to then start crying and apologize, DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

PhoenixAsh
05-12-2007, 07:38 PM
Yeah I agree with Miriel. I liked the movie, and even most of the plotlines... but Sandman's made more or less no sense from start to finish. I know a lot of people liked him, and his early fight scenes were very cool, but other than that I think the movie would have been better if they'd have ignored him and got on with Harry and Venom. That would have made the last battle a bit lame I admit.

Hazzard
05-12-2007, 07:39 PM
Sandman was just fucked up in the head. He forgot his proper morals, and at the beginning he wanted to get money for his daughter, but he later on he killed many innocent people, and Spiderman shouldn't of let him leave at the end. Sorry is not enough, and Peter was in control at that point, not Spidey. If he was looking out for the public, he would of arrested his ass- well that would be too hard at the time, but at least told him to hand himself in...somehow.

Maybe this wasn't as good as the second one, but evil Peter made me laugh, and I liked how he turned into a Playa.

Comet
05-12-2007, 10:41 PM
For me, the second one is my least favorite.

Tifa's Real Lover(really
05-16-2007, 01:33 AM
saw it on saturday, LOVED IT

but people make the movie way overrated, so i can see why many people hate it since they put there expectations too high?

anyways, brillant movie, was not disappointed, it ended too soon

Mercen-X
05-17-2007, 04:58 PM
Why is it that in the movies, the hero always finds an easy way to kill the bad guy?

In Batman, Joker falls. In Returns, Penguin gets overheated. In Forever, Two-Face falls.
In Spiderman, Goblin kills himself:confused: . In 2 Doc Ock kills himself. In 3 . . . obliterated by accident. Somebody tell me why I'm strangling myself with these films.

Del Murder
05-18-2007, 02:09 AM
Heroes aren't supposed to kill the bad guy, but if he is alive after the movie it leaves things unsettled, so they come up with these things.

Ashley Schovitz
05-18-2007, 02:31 AM
Heroes aren't supposed to kill the bad guy, but if he is alive after the movie it leaves things unsettled, so they come up with these things.

Is that why the X-men aren't considered super heroes then? I mean Wolverine has killed a ton.

Spammerman
05-18-2007, 02:32 AM
Heroes aren't supposed to kill the bad guy, but if he is alive after the movie it leaves things unsettled, so they come up with these things.

I thought its only if they are from the same place.

Del Murder
05-18-2007, 03:22 AM
Wolverine is what's known as an anti-hero.

Jowy
05-21-2007, 02:32 PM
We went to go see it on Saturday. I felt like an asshole because I was the only person in the theater cracking up during the Stan Lee cameo. It just reminded me so much of Mallrats!

We needed more Venom - Like, another hour's worth of him only to not get killed off and appear in the next movie. If they make a fourth film, I'm thinking it needs some Kingpin at one point or another. Don't bring Carnage in until you're done with the films entirely, since after he's gone there's really not much more for Spidey. ;D

Also LOL@SPIDER-MAN THE GREAT AMERICAN SUPERHERO.

Edge7
05-26-2007, 05:05 AM
Saw it, loved it.


We needed more Venom - Like, another hour's worth of him only to not get killed off and appear in the next movie. If they make a fourth film, I'm thinking it needs some Kingpin at one point or another.

Finally someone who agrees with me!
Best of the three. (Extra points for adding the Venom Suit!)