Nintendo Counts Down to Super Smash Bros. Brawl

[Roto13]

Go K.K. Rider was one of my favourite songs in Animal Crossing.

[Craig]

I get the feeling they had a hard time thinking of something for Yoshi's final smash.

[scrumpleberry]

Looks awesome. Super Dragon, lol.

[Roto13]

The new update is more info about the story mode. I take back what I said about it being just like the SSBM Adventure mode. :P There are even bosses.

[KH-Cloudy]

Damn Roto, you're fast or I got distracted :P

Update: Petey the Piranha. First boss encounter.

[Roto13]

I get home from work half an hour before midnight. Smashbros.com is on my list of things to check. :P

[KH-Cloudy]

Well..I usually stay up and wait for the updates xD. And smashbros.com is my homepage :D

[Markus. D]

I'd save Zelda just because I like her more...

edit: Oooooh~ I bet Diddy's Final will reference his Guitar Special in DK64.

[scrumpleberry]

Ooh, replay value.

[Roto13]

Superspicy Curry. I think that's from the first Kirby's Dream Land.

[Craig]

I turned my computer on for this?

[ljkkjlcm9]

did anyone else notice metaknight isn't listed in their character section as "announced" on the site yet they just went through his special moves today...

THE JACKEL

[KH-Cloudy]

Two updates for the price for on...excellent :)

[Markus. D]

did anyone else notice metaknight isn't listed in their character section as "announced" on the site yet they just went through his special moves today...

THE JACKAL

>_>; Well, guess what update we have on friday ;D


n___n~

Original Andross looks sorta weird in this game's artstyle.

[Roto13]

Original Andross looks sorta weird period.

[Roto13]

Yeah, I'm double posting. Suck it. Six new special moves for the Pokemon trainer. Interesting. :P

[ljkkjlcm9]

Yeah, I'm double posting. Suck it. Six new special moves for the Pokemon trainer. Interesting. :P
why did they choose to only do 2 for each of the pokemon, even though the first thing it says is 9 special moves!

THE JACKEL

[JKTrix]

Maybe the last 3 are secret/incomplete. Or maybe they just won't do it, I dunno.

Missing moves : what could go there
Squirtle's standard special: Bubble Beam
Ivysaur's side special: Boomerang-style Razor Leaf
Charizard's up special: Seismic Toss

Bubble Beam could be a low-damage multi-hit attack, like Link/Sheik/Falco etc's flurry attacks.
Razor Leaf could work like Link's boomerang, being able to adjust the angle you launch the attack with.
Seismic Toss would be a suicide move if trying to use it for recovery (as most Up+B moves are used), but he has wings so let him have either higher jumps or a 3rd natural jump.

Now that I think about it, they are likely to each have one more special move, because it would be weird to be pressing B with Squirtle and have nothing happen.

[Roto13]

What about Final Smash moves? Do you think they'll each get their own, or will the Pokemon trainer get one? If they each get their own, I'm betting on Hydro Pump, Solar Beam, and Fire Blast. If there's only one, it's probably a fourth Pokemon. Maybe Mew or something.

[Markus. D]

I actually reckon Bulby's Side+Special will be a HM like cut (Squirtle's Waterfall and Charizard's Rock Smash)... :]

[Roto13]

I like the new update. Gliding. That looks like a fun addition.

[JKTrix]

Well it's not a third jump, but I wasn't too far off in thinking that they'd utilize Charizard's (and others') wings. This is cool.

[Craig]

So, lemme see if I've got this right.

You can glide from your first jump, but you can't glide from your double jump? If you could do that then you'd be able to recover by flying back to the stage.

[ljkkjlcm9]

So, lemme see if I've got this right.

You can glide from your first jump, but you can't glide from your double jump? If you could do that then you'd be able to recover by flying back to the stage.

it said use a midair jump, which means the second jump

THE JACKEL

[Craig]

That's mental.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

It's basically what Peach has, only more versatile and on more characters. It'll make things interesting though for sure.

[JKTrix]

And even while it's great for recovery, you're set on that path. You can't change direction like Kirby/Jigglypuff could (only tilting up and down) so you're likely WIDE open to a Meteor Smash.

It would be cool if Mario had some way to put on his cape so he could glide as well. Like Super Mario World.

[Roto13]

I like that idea. Especially if you can do the pounding attack by tilting all the way forward and nose-diving. :P

[demondude]

They need pacman as an assist trophy character. :)

[KH-Cloudy]

Eh? This will be fun surviving :P

[Evastio]

I wonder what other characters get to glide that they haven't mentioned yet.

I'm hoping they'll update the stages section soon.

[Tifa's Real Lover(really]

oo man im so hyped ^__^

[JKTrix]

I'm hoping they'll update the stages section soon.

PSYCHIC.

Warioware Stage. Interesting I guess, would have to see it in action.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

That stage looks deranged. I like it!

[Roto13]

I can't wait to try that stage! xP

[demondude]

New adventure mode video pits descent.
Looks pretty cool I hope all the characters have these. :)

[ljkkjlcm9]

dude Pit just became like, 10x more awesome

THE JACKEL

[scrumpleberry]

dude Pit just became like, 10x more awesome


That he did.

[ljkkjlcm9]

what's with them posting special moves, but never all of them?

THE JACKEL

[demondude]

I'm looking forward to fighting petey pirinha with kirby in adventure mode. :D

[ljkkjlcm9]

this was the, oh we've already talked/shown metaknight and his special moves, let's show him, post.

THE JACKEL

[Evastio]

It's about time they added Meta Knight's profile. I really hope that if they are adding his moves to his profile they'll also add another update. Otherwise it'll pretty much be a waste of an update.

Then again it'll help explain some of Meta Knight's moves in more detail. I don't really get how his Triple Dash works.


I'm hoping they'll update the stages section soon.

PSYCHIC.
Wow. I guess I am.

[Markus. D]

YAY!

Diddy Kong gets his DK64 Moves n_n-b... that makes me happy.


So now it's REAL obvious what his final smash will be... for anyone who has played it.

[ljkkjlcm9]

interesting, they gave mario a new down+B move, maybe it'll be like samus's missle from melee, in that a fast tap does a direct missle, so a fast tap will still do the mario tornado

THE JACKEL

[Crossblades]

I'm liking the new Pokemon Stadium stage:D

[JKTrix]

interesting, they gave mario a new down+B move, maybe it'll be like samus's missle from melee, in that a fast tap does a direct missle, so a fast tap will still do the mario tornado

THE JACKAL

I think they were implying that Mario Tornado will now be an 'A' move, a normal move. Down+B will be FLUDD exclusive.

The real question is if FLUDD will do damage to Charizard. Cuz fire is weak to water.

[demondude]

Pokemon stage looks good.

F.L.U.D.D is cool too.

[Rase]

I'm just going to guess that Mario's losing his Down+A break dancing or Up+A noggin Smash and replacing whichever one with the Mario Tornado.

[Elite Lord Sigma]

I can see the new FLUDD attack being spammed for edgeguarding already.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

I can see the new FLUDD attack being spammed for edgeguarding already.

It may not work so well though if it requires charging for efficacy. It seems more like a "use at the right moment while edge-guarding" move to me.

[ljkkjlcm9]

as if the cape that turned people around wasn't already amazing for edge guarding. Next to fox, I found mario to be my best edge guarder

THE JACKEL

[JKTrix]

So, music! The 'Evolution' theme at the end was kind of cheesy in the Pokemon one, though I wonder if that would signify some kind of gameplay change in that stage.

Music as unlockables is an idea I like. Multiple songs for each stage is someting I like too! The ability to be able to set the frequency of a particular song on a particular stage is a nice touch for extra customization.

[Ouch!]

Music as unlockables is an idea I like. Multiple songs for each stage is someting I like too! The ability to be able to set the frequency of a particular song on a particular stage is a nice touch for extra customization.
Damn straight. I think this is a great idea. My room mate is asleep right now (a true pro), so I haven't been able to listen to the new tracks yet, but the news about unlocking songs and multiple songs for stages has made me rather happy.

[KH-Cloudy]

Ah, the classic Pokemon Gym theme...Nintendo's music are pretty good.

[KentaRawr!]

Woah, is this Boxart real?

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=230015

:o If so, I like it! Especially that symbol in the upper left corner! :D

[KH-Cloudy]

Don't know, seen three of these different boxarts.

[Evastio]

Don't know, seen three of these different boxarts.
Only three?

Here's a whole bunch of SSBB Boxarts (http://www.vgboxart.com/browse/title/5435/). None of them are probably real though.

[scrumpleberry]

I wouldn't trust any art prior to announcement.

[Tifa's Real Lover(really]

Don't know, seen three of these different boxarts.
Only three?

Here's a whole bunch of SSBB Boxarts (http://www.vgboxart.com/browse/title/5435/). None of them are probably real though.

oo man i love those box arts

[Evastio]

Munchlax has made it as a Pokeball Pokemon. He may prove very useful depending on how fast he walks and whether he prioritizes getting items closer to enemies rather than you.

I didn't actually think there'd be any 4th Generation Pokemon at all in the game.

Hopefully this means that 4th Generation Pokemon such as Palkia and Shaymin will be appearing as Pokeball Pokemon as well. It also means that Lucario will probably have a better chance of being a playable Pokemon.

[KH-Cloudy]

Lol, time to make sure my enemies don't get any items :P

[Crossblades]

Lyn is in the game! =)

But as an assist trophy though

[Evastio]

Now they finally show the Battleship Halberd as a playable level.

It's awesome how they kept the cannon on the Halberd and didn't even change its features. The extendable arm on the cannon is still there.

[Elite Lord Sigma]

Chaos is fun in small doses (or in overly large ones, such as the WarioWare stage).

[Markus. D]

Lyn n_n~

[Ouch!]

All the stages seem to be dynamic. I'd really like to see some new stages that aren't changing every two minutes. Sure, Battlefield and Final Destination are likely to make a return, among others, but I'd like to see some new stages that aren't moving around all the time.

[Evastio]

Now they have Special Brawls which make it possible to have multiple changes to battles like permanent big size status, Metal, Bunnyhood, and reflect status (which would cause projectile pinball since everyone will automatically reflect projectiles) on all at once. This'll make battles a lot more amusing and interesting.

I'm hoping that they'll make a character update soon.

[Markus. D]

It seems the two very adorable Ice Climbers are back :3!

[Crossblades]

It seems the two very adorable Ice Climbers are back :3!

=)

I used to love playing them in Melee:D

[Evastio]

It looks like Nintendo was listening to me after all.

I really liked the Ice Climbers in Super Smash Bros. Melee. They're my 2nd best character (the 1st being Marth). I just knew Nintendo wouldn't get rid of them in Brawl. :D

[Ouch!]

The Ice Climbers will be a lot less fun if Nintendo fixed the glitch that allowed you to freeze your opponent in a single frame, which Nintendo undoubtedly did.

[SnoopyG]

ice climbers!!! yay!:D

[Crossblades]

Anyone see the Hammer update?

[Evastio]

Yep. It's probably the Golden Hammer from Wrecking Crew. That game is so much fun. I hope it makes it to the Virtual Console. I also hope the Golden Hammer Music plays while someone has it. That music is so awesome.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

Wi-fi capability confirmed. Awesome.

I hope they can implement some kind of headset communication. Smash isn't the same without trash-talking.

[Ultima Shadow]

Wi-fi capability confirmed. Awesome.

I hope they can implement some kind of headset communication. Smash isn't the same without trash-talking.Woooohoooooo! YES, YES, YES!!! This is freaking awesome!

[Lawr]

Wi-Fi isn't too impressive lately, it's nothing compared to XBox Live, but headsets would be nice.

[JKTrix]

...it's nothing compared to XBox Live...

QFObviousStatement

I kind of like the idea of playing random no-name people without data tracking. That should cut down on people who drop out when they're losing, since they should be playing this mode purely for fun. Like a normal game.

[ljkkjlcm9]

...it's nothing compared to XBox Live...

QFObviousStatement

I kind of like the idea of playing random no-name people without data tracking. That should cut down on people who drop out when they're losing, since they should be playing this mode purely for fun. Like a normal game.

yeah, basically instead of having to play computers, you get to play with random other people

I can't wait to play against friends around the country, and say random things to them in the middle of battle

THE JACKEL

[Rase]

The Enemies from Subspace. (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea06.html)

I'm liking Shaydas most right now. Enemies with blades are usually fun.

[XxSephirothxX]

I'm continually amazed that Nintendo's online service this generation is actually :skull::skull::skull::skull:tier than Sony's pretty pathetic effort last generation, but online in Brawl is, at least, online in Brawl.

Now they just need to grasp the concept of how big a role voice communication can play in this sort of experience.

[Fire_Emblem776]

They added Lyn Hurray!!

[Agent Proto]

Snake? ...Snake!? ....Snaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake!!!!

[KentaRawr!]

I'm liking Snake's theme song. Now, I bet quite a few people are going to plant land mines near the edge of the stage as edge guarding. And then there's the Nikita Missiles. And grenades.

And don't forget the box.

[Crossblades]

I'm liking Snake's theme song. Now, I bet quite a few people are going to plant land mines near the edge of the stage as edge guarding. And then there's the Nikita Missiles. And grenades.

And don't forget the box.

What he is doing to Ike in one of those pics looks like it's gonna hurt

[Evastio]

Piplup being a Pokeball Pokemon has practically confirmed that they're officially adding both 3rd and 4th Generation Pokemon in Brawl. That's good because I was kind of worried that they wouldn't add Pearl and Diamond Pokemon even with those games being released before Brawl did.

The Smash Bros. series always had a habit of skipping a Pokemon generation (having no Johto Pokemon in the N64 Version but having a Pokemon game with Johto Pokemon also on the N64, having no Hoenn Pokemon in the Gamecube version but having Hoenn Pokemon in a Pokemon Game also on the Gamecube). I know Nintendo can't really help doing that but I'm glad they didn't do that for Brawl (having no Sinnoh Pokemon on the Wii Version despite having a Pokemon game on the Wii with Sinnoh Pokemon).

As for Snake, I was against him being in Brawl from the beginning. I guess as long as Brawl is still more Nintendo than anything else (Konami, Namco, Square-Enix, etc.) I guess it should be okay.

[Crossblades]

See Diddy Kong's final smash

[Markus. D]

See Diddy Kong's final smash

I wanted the Guitar :[... This will have to do I guess ._.

[Ultima Shadow]

As for Snake, I was against him being in Brawl from the beginning. I guess as long as Brawl is still more Nintendo than anything else (Konami, Namco, Square-Enix, etc.) I guess it should be okay.
Yeah, same here. He just doesn't seem to fit in the game. :-/

[Crossblades]

As for Snake, I was against him being in Brawl from the beginning. I guess as long as Brawl is still more Nintendo than anything else (Konami, Namco, Square-Enix, etc.) I guess it should be okay.
Yeah, same here. He just doesn't seem to fit in the game. :-/

Well, he was only added because Konami always wanted Nintendo to add Snake in a Smash Bros. game. Originally, he was supposed to be in melee.

Anyways, see the new assist trophy they added. Seems hilarious :jess:

[demondude]

The new assist trophy looks annoying.

[Evastio]

Even though the maker of the MGS series practically begged for Snake to be in the game I'm still somewhat against it.

Mr. Resetti as an assist trophy sure is quite odd. Just imagine him appearing in the Last Event Match or when you're facing the Ancient Minister.

Hopefully he isn't one of those invincible Assist Trophies. It'd be quite fun to smash him out of the level during his lectures.

[Crossblades]

Todays update features the Pokemon Trainer's final smash

[Markus. D]

>_<!

>______<

Hurry up and be out already!

[JKTrix]

It's super effective!

[Elite Lord Sigma]

No critical hit?

[Crossblades]

New update today. Tourney mode

[Lawr]

Tourney is short for Tournament. Nonetheless it is still cool.

[Crossblades]

A playable Earthbound character has been added to the roster! Here's the thing, though. It's not Ness!:eek:

Check today's update to see who it is. You'd be surprised;)

[ljkkjlcm9]

A playable Earthbound character has been added to the roster! Here's the thing, though. It's not Ness!:eek:

Check today's update to see who it is. You'd be surprised;)

they better still have Ness though... it'd be kinda silly if they don't

THE JACKEL

[Lawr]

A playable Earthbound character has been added to the roster! Here's the thing, though. It's not Ness!:eek:

Check today's update to see who it is. You'd be surprised;)

they better still have Ness though... it'd be kinda silly if they don't

THE JACKAL


Yeah, they better have Ness. They DID get rid of Roy and Marth though, but Ness was there since SSB.

[demondude]

That kids scary I mean look those big black holes for eyes.

*Shudder*

[JKTrix]

Ness is from the old Mother games. Lucas is from Mother 3, the newer game. Lucas will likely play a larger role in Brawl than Ness does, if Ness stays in the game.

I don't see them removing Ness, but they'll likely be focusing more on Lucas this time from the Mother games.

I don't recall them saying that they 'got rid of' Roy and Marth. As far as I know they haven't said anything definitive about any characters not reappearing, just the 'there will be no clones' comment.

[KentaRawr!]

Correction, JKTrix. Ness is from Earthbound, Mother 2. There was no other Mother game that he appeared in. However, he did borrow the design of the main character of Mother 1, Ninten.

[Evastio]

It looks like Lucas made it as a playable character despite being a Japan Only Character. This is really great. I look forward to seeing his moveset.

The update today does kind of lower the chance of Poo, Paula, and Jeff making it in (seeing as how only lead Mother characters are playable so far). But seeing Lucas (a Japan Only character) being playable increases the chance of characters like Stafy, Lip, and our favourite swordsman (Marth & Roy) making it in more than makes up for it.

Correction, JKTrix. Ness is from Earthbound, Mother 2. There was no other Mother game that he appeared in. However, he did borrow the design of the main character of Mother 1, Ninten.
Isn't that still Ness in the NES Version of Mother (http://www.rpgclassics.com/shrines/nes/ebz/info.shtml)?

[Markus. D]

How cute does Kirby look in that image :3

[Orophin]

Correction, JKTrix. Ness is from Earthbound, Mother 2. There was no other Mother game that he appeared in. However, he did borrow the design of the main character of Mother 1, Ninten.Isn't that still Ness in the NES Version of Mother (http://www.rpgclassics.com/shrines/nes/ebz/info.shtml)?

No.

"EarthBound is a distant sequel to the original Mother, with many characters, themes, and tunes borrowed from its predecessor. Many of the characters and settings are very similar, but the only explicitly returning character is Giygas, who swears revenge at the end of the first game (evidenced by Mother 2's Japanese subtitle: Gyiyg Strikes Back!)."

Source: EarthBound (series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EarthBound_%28series%29)

[Rase]

A nice video of Snake taking on Mario, as well as some other takers. I'm thinking I like the way he looks like he plays, his attacks seem fairly strong and quick, and his Specials are pretty versatile. Also, some info on Snakes stage, Shadow Moses Island. Wonder how that ComLink thing will work out, and if it only happens when Snake is fighting on the stage.

[KentaRawr!]

"Otacon, what's that lizard thing?!"


Probably the best update thus far.

[ljkkjlcm9]

"Otacon, what's that lizard thing?!"


Probably the best update thus far.
"IT talks?"

lol yes quite entertaining, hopefully those cut scenes won't happen like, mid battle

THE JACKEL

[demondude]

Shdow moses island looks cool.

[Evastio]

I'm still against Snake being in Brawl.

But I admit that the video about Yoshi and Wario were quite funny.

[KentaRawr!]

I honestly don't see why it's so bad that Snake is in Brawl. The only thing that significantly separates him from the other characters is his being 3rd Party.

[Markus. D]

Lawl Lakitu~ and Excitebike :x

[KentaRawr!]

Well, now that the Lakitu is an item, I'd say it's confirmed that more people will play with items on.

[Lawr]

I think they should have changed the pixels into 3D art.

[KentaRawr!]

Why is that? Having the original 2D Sprites in a 3D world simply gives off a nice feeling of nostalgia, if you ask me.

[JKTrix]

I wonder if it will be possible to be able to set the frequency of certain Assist Trophies, kind of like how you can set the frequency of a stage's music.

With all these assist trophies coming out that are supposedly random, it would be nice to be able to filter them somehow.

[KentaRawr!]

It would be pretty nice if we could make it so that only Lakitu's would appear when on the Mushroom Kingdom stage, which will undeniably be in this game. >_>

[Elite Lord Sigma]

I wonder if it will be possible to be able to set the frequency of certain Assist Trophies, kind of like how you can set the frequency of a stage's music.

With all these assist trophies coming out that are supposedly random, it would be nice to be able to filter them somehow.

I'd just continually have Mr. Resetti be the only one if that were an option, just to stall matches for as long as possible.

[Skyblade]

If that were the case, they'd probably have to add in a similar option for Pokeballs.

[KH-Cloudy]

Lol, breakable walls for Shadow Moses Island. Video of Snake flying away from the spotlight, haha.

Excitebike...brings back memories.

[ljkkjlcm9]

Landmaster tank FTW

THE JACKEL

[demondude]

Landmaster looks powerful. :)

[Skyblade]

Landmaster looks a little too unwieldy for my taste. How the hell are you supposed to aim something bigger than half the field?

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

Landmaster looks a little too unwieldy for my taste. How the hell are you supposed to aim something bigger than half the field?

Aim? Why would you want to do that? You hit EVERYTHING!

[Elite Lord Sigma]

Who cares that it's a Landmaster? You can do a barrel roll with it!

[Evastio]

It's too bad they didn't show us how to shield/dodge roll with just the Wii Remote/Wii Nunchuck-Remote Combo. I really want to know how you're supposed to shield with such a limited amount of buttons.

[Rase]

My guess for just the Wii Remote would be the B trigger. I can see using the 1 and 2 buttons in place of A and B, but I don't know what the Wii Remote's A button would do.

[ljkkjlcm9]

Dude! Co-op story mode is made of win

THE JACKEL

[Evastio]

That's awesome. :D

I was thinking that there was no chance of having Two Player Adventure Mode when I first saw the Subspace Emissionary Update. I'm glad it turns out I was wrong. It's going to be so much fun using the Mario Brothers or Kirby and Meta Knight or the Kongs or other team ups in Adventure Mode.

I really can't wait to try it out.

[Rase]

Oh, me likey.

[Markus. D]

I guess it might take a little bit of getting use to being 2P if that was required. :3

[Skyblade]

While I like Kirby's fine culinary skills, I'm worried that Zero Suit Samus isn't going to work. A very weak Paralyzer shot, and two moves that utilize her Plasma Whip. Maybe she is agile, but she needs a bigger repertoire...

[Rase]

I can see the Paralyzer being useful once an enemy is off the edge and trying to return. Just stun them in the air and watch 'em fall.

[Evastio]

I'm glad they finally updated Kirby's Final Smash. It's strange that his Final Smash was the last one to be updated out of the original 8 when his was shown in the preview.

[Roto13]

Ashley's theme. I loved that song in Wario Ware, and I like the new version as well. The English version is fifty times better than the Japanese one. :P

[Evastio]

Oh yeah. I forgot to comment about the song.

It was somewhat amusing, catchy, yet annoying at the same time.

Now that song is stuck in my head.

[Fire_Emblem776]

They added Sonic.. Hurray!!

[Rase]

I must admit this isn't that much of a shock, but still, glad to see it finally confirmed.

I like the new gameplay footage also. Very sweet looking.

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

Ashley's theme. I loved that song in Wario Ware, and I like the new version as well. The English version is fifty times better than the Japanese one. :P

It's never a good thing when thirty-year-old women are allowed to provide the voices of eight-year-old girls.

[Heath]

I was actually beginning to doubt whether they'd add Sonic or not, but I've not really been actively keeping up with the news other than checking this thread every now and again. Looks like a nice addition, though I'm still hoping that they bring more characters back from SSB:M. I'd be fairly disappointed if they removed Roy and Marth, for instance and Ganondorf too. Obviously he's essentially a slower, more powerful Captain Falcon but I enjoyed using both.

[ljkkjlcm9]

sonic huh, I look forward to seeing his move set

THE JACKEL

[Ouch!]

I was actually beginning to doubt whether they'd add Sonic or not, but I've not really been actively keeping up with the news other than checking this thread every now and again. Looks like a nice addition, though I'm still hoping that they bring more characters back from SSB:M. I'd be fairly disappointed if they removed Roy and Marth, for instance and Ganondorf too. Obviously he's essentially a slower, more powerful Captain Falcon but I enjoyed using both.
Ganondorf has been unofficially confirmed, as has Shiek. The character designer for the Zelda games announced that he'd worked on their designs for Brawl. The link is somewhere in this thread, I think.

I'm glad Sonic made it in.

[Skyblade]

The one character I never thought would make it into a Smash Bros. game when the original came out.

The Sonic Dash, and Super Sonic as his final smash. Ah, the memories...

Also, I loved that his introduction was him running over Mario. :D

[Crossblades]

I saw the gameplay footage and all I can say is..................WOW:eek:

[Evastio]

They actually obeyed the requests to put Sonic in? I guess he's better than Snake. But I'm still against it though.

I do admit that that movie (the one without Sonic in it) was really impressive. I even liked how they showed some things that they didn't even update yet (like Kyorgre and Torchic and some stages).

Also, what was with those combined taunts? At least that's what they looked like.

[XxSephirothxX]

Oh Sonic, how I love you.

[StarlightAngel]

I laughed when I saw that Sonic was in it, especially after remembering VG Cats =P I don't really care who's in Brawl, as long as they make for fun fights~

[demondude]

I love life.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

Rock.

[Rase]

Interesting and somewhat distressing to note though it that the release date has been set to "TBD" in the sidebar on the Main page, as opposed to the formerly confirmed Dec. 3.

[scrumpleberry]

DO NOT WANT.

I dislike Sonic intensley. He's a poo poo.

[demondude]

DO NOT WANT.

I dislike Sonic intensley. He's a poo poo.

YOUR A POO POO. :mad2:

[Skyblade]

DO NOT WANT.

I dislike Sonic intensley. He's a poo poo.

Then think of this as an opportunity to pound the heck out of him with a bunch of other characters that you do like.

[Ouch!]

Interesting and somewhat distressing to note though it that the release date has been set to "TBD" in the sidebar on the Main page, as opposed to the formerly confirmed Dec. 3.
I know. My friend mentioned rumors of a January 24 release.

[XxSephirothxX]

It's coming out in January in Japan now, supposedly, but I haven't heard anything definitively stating that it would or would not stick to the December release in the US.

[demondude]

I want tails to be in as well. :p

[scrumpleberry]

DO NOT WANT.

I dislike Sonic intensley. He's a poo poo.

Then think of this as an opportunity to pound the heck out of him with a bunch of other characters that you do like.

YESSS

Thank you so much, Skyblade, you have enlightened me.:choc2:

[Heath]

I was actually beginning to doubt whether they'd add Sonic or not, but I've not really been actively keeping up with the news other than checking this thread every now and again. Looks like a nice addition, though I'm still hoping that they bring more characters back from SSB:M. I'd be fairly disappointed if they removed Roy and Marth, for instance and Ganondorf too. Obviously he's essentially a slower, more powerful Captain Falcon but I enjoyed using both.
Ganondorf has been unofficially confirmed, as has Shiek. The character designer for the Zelda games announced that he'd worked on their designs for Brawl. The link is somewhere in this thread, I think.

I'm glad Sonic made it in.

Ahh. Shows what I get for not reading this thread thoroughly. Thanks for the info!

[Evastio]

The veterans that I really want to come back are Luigi, Ness, Jigglypuff, Captain Falcon (no Falcon Punch = no Super Smash Bros. Game. Besides, the four of them were in all the SSB games), Marth (He's my best character and in my opinion the coolest looking SSBM character), Roy (We can't get rid of him. Otherwise, all the playable Fire Emblem character will be blue headed.), Falco (Looks cool even though I don't use him much), Pichu (I actually use him just for his taunt), Ganondorf (one of the few villain characters in SSBM), and Mr. Game and Watch (he's like the root of Nintendo).



DO NOT WANT.

I dislike Sonic intensley. He's a poo poo.

Then think of this as an opportunity to pound the heck out of him with a bunch of other characters that you do like.

YESSS

Thank you so much, Skyblade, you have enlightened me.:choc2:
That's an optimistic way to look at it. Maybe I'll do the same with Snake as well...

They are good characters. Don't get me wrong there. But they don't really fit well with Mario, Kirby, and the other Nintendo characters. I'm also worried that eventually no one will use the Nintendo characters in SSB anymore if this keeps up.

The Release date for Brawl being TBD instead of Dec. 3 also worries me Rase.

[Lawr]

Luigi

I've been in the shadows about this...but Sonic before Luigi!?

[JackNapier]

Sonic in Brawl?! Hell yes!

[Evastio]

Luigi

I've been in the shadows about this...but Sonic before Luigi!?
Yeah. It feels a little wrong for Nintendo to be doing this. It's been a while since they've updated a veteran character.

[Roto13]

I thought they wouldn´t do it because of the upcoming Olympics game. I guess I was wrong.

I rewatched part of the Sonic video several times because I thought I saw Amy. It was probably just Peach, though. xD

[Elite Lord Sigma]

If Nintendo's official forums were still online, they wouldn't be after this update.

[Markus. D]

Ooooh, they even played the kewl theme song from Sonic 2 Adventure Battle :333

[JKTrix]

Luigi

I've been in the shadows about this...but Sonic before Luigi!?
Yeah. It feels a little wrong for Nintendo to be doing this. It's been a while since they've updated a veteran character.

The reason they were showing Sonic now is because Nintendo had a press event in Japan (http://www.irwebcasting.com/071010/53/f078bbc3f8/main/index_hi.htm) on Wednesday, where they revealed Sonic (and the new Japanese release date, and a whole bunch of other Nintendo game stuff). So instead of just having that news float over to the west, they just put it up as an official announcement--complete with the video of it that they showed during the press event.

As far as US details go, there is a Nintendo Press Event in the US *today*, so there's a pretty decent chance we'll be getting information on the release date.

[XxSephirothxX]

Feb. 10th. =\

[demondude]

Feb. 10th. =\

Yep. :(

[The Lich]

It took me a whole hour to believe they finally put sonic in. I want knuckles or tails in too. So I can have Sonic and tails/knuckles against mario and luigi.

[Elite Lord Sigma]

February 10th...damn!

[KH-Cloudy]

Damn, the more they put the more it gets pushed further back :(. Well at least the additions will be great. Sonic, knew he was going to come by popular demand.

[Rase]

I never used the Snapshot Mode in Melee, so the fact that you can take pictures at anytime just by pausing is pretty awesome in my book.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

I never used the Snapshot Mode in Melee, so the fact that you can take pictures at anytime just by pausing is pretty awesome in my book.

I agree. I was hoping they'd do that, since we always manage to pause on a screenshot that'd be just awesome to have. I didn't like the staged photo mode of melee.

[Lawr]

Damn, the more they put the more it gets pushed further back :(. Well at least the additions will be great. Sonic, knew he was going to come by popular demand.

Well, at least these guys listen to the fans.

[JKTrix]

I'm actually kind of relieved this was pushed back. Largely disappointed, but still relieved.

For you sane people who have a 1 or 2 console focus this is a much bigger deal, but for idiots like me with every breathing system under the sun, this last part of the year is just packed with great games. This is one thing that will ease my wallet just a little bit more.

Is anyone planning to go to E for All to play it?

[White Raven]

I'm glad they pushed back the release date. I've seen too many games that had so much potential but released too early when they could have taken the time to perfect it. Good examples are many pro sports games and movie games specifically Transformers.

As for Sonic, I think this marks a significant point in history that many fans have dreamed would happen. Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games will be the official intersection of the franchises but this is a great start.

:)

[KentaRawr!]

Well, I'm definitely liking the Announcer. He reminds me of Guilty Gear.

Rawr. (http://www.1up.com/do/gameOverview?cId=3141681)

Edit: Better yet, Here's a gooderer version of it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At6XYXirQ3M)

[Elite Lord Sigma]

Snapshot mode has now gone from practically useless to interesting and great.

[Rase]

Here's a gooderer version of it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At6XYXirQ3M)
I love you for posting that.

[Markus. D]

The first in-game non-trailer I've seen.


OMG I want! ;___;

[KentaRawr!]

IGN has some videos (http://media.wii.ign.com/media/748/748545/vids_1.html) of them playing the demo up, but the quality isn't too amazing. They figured they should have the controller be visible as well. :X

[Rostum]

Sonic in Smash Brawl means my girlfriend will buy it. Very awesome. :D

[Elite Lord Sigma]

I've seen a lot of videos of that demo over the last day or two, and this is what I know.

-Jill from Drill Dozer and Little Mac from Punch Out! are assist trophies.
-Gardevoir is in a ball, and uses barriers to block projectiles.
-Meta Knight's voice is awesome.
-Ike is a powermonger.
-Peach's Final Smash involves dancing in the center, damaging everybody onscreen and putting them to sleep, while dropping peaches (surprise, surprise) to heal.
-Meta Knight's Final Smash requires a bit of accuracy to pull off, and he makes the screen blacken, and then slashes through it and damages anybody nearby.
-Ike's Final Smash involves electricity, but I've yet to see what it actually looks like.

[Heath]

-Ike's Final Smash involves electricity, but I've yet to see what it actually looks like.

When Ike was first announced, I expected his Final Smash to be Aether, but apparently not as that's just a special move he has. Still looks pretty cool and he's definitely a character I'm looking forward to using.

Also: new stage: New Pork City (http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/stages/stage14.html).

[Evastio]

Wow. New Pork City looks like a confusing yet fun level. It's really hard to tell the difference between plaforms and the background.

Hopefully it'll be more obvious when you're actually playing the stage. Otherwise I'll probably be killing myself repeatedly from thinking that some things are platforms when they actually aren't.

[Markus. D]

Welcome zeh new rainbow road?

Pork City looks kinda fun ^-^!

[demondude]

The new sandbag modes look awesome.

[Skyblade]

The shield should mean that Yoshi will no longer be the sandbag king.

Push Sandbag into the shield, then use Meta Knight's mach speed sword. Fun.

[Momiji]

I can't wait just for the sake of Pit. (*die-hard Kid Icarus fan (buy it on the virtual console!)*)

[Rase]

Meowth as a Pokeball Pokemon, and the control scheme for just using the Wii Remote are now up.

[KentaRawr!]

Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9bqdOH3js0)'s a Final Smash Compilation. Try to ignore the annoying girls.

Ike's Final Smash definitely reminds me of Omnislash.

[ljkkjlcm9]

Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9bqdOH3js0)'s a Final Smash Compilation. Try to ignore the annoying girls.

Ike's Final Smash definitely reminds me of Omnislash.
It reminds me more of Lionheart from FFVIII, with the whole hitting them in the air on the first strike. Definitely Lionheart not Omnislash

THE JACKEL

[KentaRawr!]

It knocks him into the air, but just look at the ending! The pause, and his sword lifted high, preparing to strike.

Maybe a combination of the two.

[Markus. D]

Little Mac, more and more Assistance <3



and, how very creepy does Peach's final smash look :(?

It's all the PINK! (imo)

[Evastio]

Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9bqdOH3js0)'s a Final Smash Compilation. Try to ignore the annoying girls.

Ike's Final Smash definitely reminds me of Omnislash.
Thanks for the link!!

Too bad the Ice Climbers and Lucas weren't playable in the demos yet. I'd really want to see their Final Smashes. It'd be cool if the Ice Climbers rode on the condor and got it to shoot out icy breath for their Final Smashes.

Also, for some really strange reason I think if Marth makes it in Brawl his Final Smash would be turning into Anri and going all crazy with the Falchion.

[ljkkjlcm9]

Also, for some really strange reason I think if Marth makes it in Brawl his Final Smash would be turning into Anri and going all crazy with the Falchion.

well apparently, Ike has counter and the sword dance move that marth/roy had, so I'm quite sure they've been replaced

THE JACKEL

[Heath]

Also, for some really strange reason I think if Marth makes it in Brawl his Final Smash would be turning into Anri and going all crazy with the Falchion.

well apparently, Ike has counter and the sword dance move that marth/roy had, so I'm quite sure they've been replaced

THE JACKAL

The immediate reaction I had when Ike was revealed was that they'd combine elements of Roy and Marth together into Ike, meaning there'd be no need for them. I hope they do include them because I certainly found them to be amongst the two characters I used the most and most people I've spoken to did enjoy using them. It's funny actually, as when I unlocked Marth originally, I had no idea what Fire Emblem was, yet x amount of years down the line I'm a fairly big fan of the series.

[KentaRawr!]

Also, for some really strange reason I think if Marth makes it in Brawl his Final Smash would be turning into Anri and going all crazy with the Falchion.

well apparently, Ike has counter and the sword dance move that marth/roy had, so I'm quite sure they've been replaced

THE JACKAL

I'm not so sure. Those two attacks are pretty much the only similarities between Ike and Marth/Roy. Everything else is entirely different from what I've seen, even the A attacks. Also, while the Fire Emblem stage is meant to be anonymous, it does take an element from Marth's games, the Red Flag with the Dragon. And also, including Marth will offer some cheap advertisement at this (http://ds.ign.com/articles/826/826137p1.html), which as seen here (http://media.ds.ign.com/media/142/14209935/img_4961743.html), includes Marth in the game, most likely as the main character.

[Lawr]

They said there would be no more clones, so I would love to play as either of them AND that means Luigi gets his own moveset. :bigsmile:

[scrumpleberry]

They said there would be no more clones, so I would love to play as either of them AND that means Luigi gets his own moveset. :bigsmile:

LUIIIGIIIII!

[Evastio]

well apparently, Ike has counter and the sword dance move that marth/roy had, so I'm quite sure they've been replaced

THE JACKAL
You got any videos to prove that?

[ljkkjlcm9]

well apparently, Ike has counter and the sword dance move that marth/roy had, so I'm quite sure they've been replaced

THE JACKAL
You got any videos to prove that?
no but I have this article: Nintendo World Report - Wii Impressions: Super Smash Bros. Brawl (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/impressionsArt.cfm?artid=14648)

excerpt

Ike from Fire Emblem plays something like a combination of Roy and Marth from Melee, but is more of a power character. He has some speedy attacks, but for the most part he'll try to club you with his big sword. His special move set is very recognizable, and it includes the combo and counter moves. The Up special is a little different—he throws his sword up into the air, jumps at it, grabs it, and slams downward--but people familiar with the Fire Emblem characters in Melee will need little time to adjust to Ike's style of play.

THE JACKEL

[Evastio]

That's still not convincing me that Marth's not in Brawl. Removing Marth from Super Smash Bros. Brawl is almost as bad as removing Ness (not because Ness was in all of the Super Smash Bros. games). Even if Marth and Ness haven't been in any new games recently (besides Marth's Fire Emblem DS Game) they're the first and central characters to their series. If either of them were removed their game series would be badly represented.

Also, Marth's Fire Emblem game being remade for the DS practically confirms Marth making it in. Ike having Marth and Roy's moves don't necessarily confirm that they're not making it in.

[KentaRawr!]

I wouldn't get your hopes too high. Not because I think Marth not make it in (but I do think he will), but because there's still a possibility that he won't.

[NeoCracker]

Didn't they say at one point all the Characters from the Original Smash Bro's would still be there, meaning we will still have Ness?

I could be imagining this though, wouldn't be the first time it happened.

[demondude]

Wow a pictochat arena.

[KentaRawr!]

Didn't they say at one point all the Characters from the Original Smash Bro's would still be there, meaning we will still have Ness?

I could be imagining this though, wouldn't be the first time it happened.

They haven't officially announced him to be cut, and Lucas seems to have a separate move-set. But, we'll just have to wait and see. But, yes, you are right, that was announced at one point. I think it was on the old Smash Bros. site.

[Markus. D]

xD, Are there going to be any more stages with just standard non-changing areas we can pwn on?

[JKTrix]

It's probably too much to ask, but it would be awesome if one with a DS could actually link up and alter the Pictochat stage.

[demondude]

It's probably too much to ask, but it would be awesome if one with a DS could actually link up and alter the Pictochat stage.

Yeah but different people of different ages play and some will ruin it by drawing sick things.

[Lawr]

That would be fun to have your Mii as an Assist Trophy

[Momiji]

That would be fun to have your Mii as an Assist Trophy

It would be more fun to play as your Mii.

[Evastio]

The PictoChat arena sure looks like fun. It'll probably be the least predictable stage. And demondude55 does have a point about not letting you actually alter the stage with a DS. If only they could censor out sick pictures people draw somehow.

I'll be okay whether Miis make it as playable characters or as an Assist Trophy. I'm hoping that Mach Rider will be an Assist Trophy as well.

Speaking of playable characters, I'm really hoping they update one soon.

[Agent Proto]

Yeah, it's most likely tomorrow or Wednesday. I hope it'll be a new character, preferably a third party character (Go Mega Man!)

[demondude]

A new donkey kong movie is up.

[Evastio]

A new donkey kong movie is up.
That's a bit of a dissappointing update. I was expecting a character since they haven't had one in two weeks.

The movie was quite amusing, I'll admit that. I don't get how it ties in with Adventure Mode though.

[demondude]

The movie didn't really explain much either.

[Craig]

The movie didn't really explain much either.

It explains how Donkey and Diddy Kong get involved in the struggle obviously. Just how Pit's video explains how he does. Except, his is cooler.

[Skyblade]

The movie didn't really explain much either.

It explains how Donkey and Diddy Kong get involved in the struggle obviously. Just how Pit's video explains how he does. Except, his is cooler.

Not really. This gives Diddy and Donkey reason to be pissed at Bowser. But, since Bowser doesn't actually have any introduction to the battle, it doesn't explain how the two apes get involved. At least Snake was going after Mario, and Mario is already involved in the conflict.

[demondude]

The target test looks cool.
And the replay will be undeniably awesome.

[Evastio]

So there's 5 Target Tests for each character?

If what that one article says is true (there'd be no more than 50 characters) then that's a lot of Target Test Stages to do (250). :sweat:

I hope you don't have to unlock that much stuff through Target Test Stages if that's the case.

[Cz]

I think it might be five target tests total, with each one being playable by every character. That's a little disappointing, since I enjoyed having each map tailored to a character's special abilities in SSBM, but I suppose there'll at least be a wide variety of ways to tackle each test.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

KOREJHJHPIEJWBPIOHRLBNE:LKBNLRKHNRL

DEDEDE! WIN!

[ljkkjlcm9]

so there are now 3 playable characters from Kirby's world

THE JACKEL

[KentaRawr!]

This makes 23 Characters thus far, and still no Captain Falcon. >_>

[demondude]

Gotta love that penguin thing.

[Rase]

KOREJHJHPIEJWBPIOHRLBNE:LKBNLRKHNRL

DEDEDE! WIN!
Those would be my feelings on this. :love:

Dang, I have no clue who I'm going to play as first. Okay, probably Mario, but still.

[demondude]

Also kirbys move where he eats the opponent and gains their abilities is still in if you look at the fourth screnshot.

[Rase]

They really couldn't get rid of that move and have Kirby in the game. Kind of central to his whole character.
Wondering what Kirby's ->+B will be now, as DeeDee is wielding his hammer this time around.

[demondude]

Maybe kirby can use the copied characters left/right moves as well now.

[Fire_Emblem776]

Whats wrong with 2 hammers?

[Skyblade]

Whats wrong with 2 hammers?

Exactly. The Ice Climbers and Kirby both had hammers. Why not Kirby, Ice Climbers, and Dedede?

[Rase]

My thinking is, unless I'm mistaken Kirby is in fact using DeeDee's hammer in Melee. I don't see how two characters can use the same hammer, but meh.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

They could give Kirby a different move besides the hammer, which wasn't terribly exciting anyway. Kirby has a huge amount of powers to draw upon, there are plenty that can be used. They could make the fire move standard for him, for example.

[KentaRawr!]

Kirby could also get that hammer from the Thug looking guy. But, it doesn't really matter. DeDeDe ALWAYS uses his hammer, while Kirby only has two or so moves revolving around hammer usage. I don't think they'll change those two moves just to avoid clonage.

[Evastio]

Yay! King Dedede!! We finally have a character update after 2 weeks!! They also finally show Kirby with a character's hat.

I really hope they also add Gooey. He's the only true partner Kirby had.

We don't know for sure if King Dedede's side B will use his hammer so Kirby will probably be keeping his side B move.

[Elite Lord Sigma]

Hooray for Dedede!

[Evastio]

I was wondering, does anyone think King Dedede's Final Smash will be that gross yet cool looking chewing up attack that he has in Kirby's Dream Land 3? (The one where the zig zag pattern on his chest opens up and turns into teeth)

[KH-Cloudy]

Oooh Dedede...Final Smash will probably be funny lol.

[KentaRawr!]

Woah, look at the voices Alesia Glidewell (http://www.alesiaglidewell.com/vo_games.htm) is doing for this game!

:O

[demondude]

Dededes special moves are up!

[ljkkjlcm9]

Woah, look at the voices Alesia Glidewell (http://www.alesiaglidewell.com/vo_games.htm) is doing for this game!

:O

well if Krystal is in the game, and they bring Falco back with a new moveset, it'll be another game with 3 characters from it. But Krystal could just be an assist trophy that yells something when she appears or what not. Who knows what it really means! I suspect if she is a character, she'll have the staff from Starfox Adventure

THE JACKEL

[scrumpleberry]

Woah, look at the voices Alesia Glidewell (http://www.alesiaglidewell.com/vo_games.htm) is doing for this game!

:O

Well spotted :D

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG

WIN! SO. MUCH. WIN.

[Rase]

Ho. Ly. Eff.

[JKTrix]

I agree with the two above posts. (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various10.html)

Bloody well worth waiting 'til February for. Elebits had something like this, but it was limited to only sending to other players, not a daily download thing sent by Nintendo.

[Cz]

Game of the year. Game of any year.

[Markus. D]

OMIFIGAH!