Theories I need help with!

[Project G]

What era did the Shera come from?

Since when did Reeve become a war hero?

Is DoC set before or after AC?

What did Grimoire Valentine do?

And finally who is Vincents mother?

[TheSpoonyBard]

1. Not too sure, but it's said to run on 'some mysterious ancient power source'. I think this is a hint towards the VII/X/X-2 connection.

2. When he evacuated Midgar prior to Meteorstrike.

3. One year after.

4. He was Lucrecia's mentor, and aided her in her Omega/Chaos research.

5. It's not said.

[Big D]

What era did the Shera come from?

Since when did Reeve become a war hero?

Is DoC set before or after AC?

What did Grimoire Valentine do?

And finally who is Vincents mother?1. This is pure speculation, but it could be from the same era as the aircraft in the Bone Village excavation site. If you check out that location in the original game, there's something that resembles an F-15 fighter half buried there. That, and the Shera, are pretty convincing proof that FFVII's world has seen civilisations rise and fall in the past.

2. Reeve is a 'war hero' for his part in defeating Sephiroth and Jenova (hence, "hero of the Jenova War") and, as has been said, for helping to save the citizens of Upper Midgar.

3-5. What Endless. said.

[darkchrono]

1. Not too sure, but it's said to run on 'some mysterious ancient power source'. I think this is a hint towards the VII/X/X-2 connection.


What's this? Are they saying there is a possibility that the different final fantasy games could end up taking place within the same universe. Only hundres, or perhaps thousands, or perhaps tens of thousands years apart from eachother.

[The Crystal]

1. Not too sure, but it's said to run on 'some mysterious ancient power source'. I think this is a hint towards the VII/X/X-2 connection.


What's this? Are they saying there is a possibility that the different final fantasy games could end up taking place within the same universe. Only hundres, or perhaps thousands, or perhaps tens of thousands years apart from eachother.

Not all FF games, just FFVII and FFX. People from Spira travelled to Gaia, and Shinra's ancestors used their knowledge about the Lifestream to suck it from the planet.

[darkchrono]

1. Not too sure, but it's said to run on 'some mysterious ancient power source'. I think this is a hint towards the VII/X/X-2 connection.


What's this? Are they saying there is a possibility that the different final fantasy games could end up taking place within the same universe. Only hundres, or perhaps thousands, or perhaps tens of thousands years apart from eachother.

Not all FF games, just FFVII and FFX. People from Spira travelled to Gaia, and Shinra's ancestors used their knowledge about the Lifestream to suck it from the planet.


Hmmm, so your saying that Spira and the VII world are not the same planet but the people from Spira traveled to the VII world sometime after the final fantasy X series of games took place. And the civilization in ff 7 derived from the people from Spira.

Is their any solid proof that this is the case or is this basically just some theory that a few fans thought up to account for some stuff in the games.

[Big D]

Is their any solid proof that this is the case or is this basically just some theory that a few fans thought up to account for some stuff in the games.The theory was put forward by one of the writers (not Tetsuya Nomura, but someone else) at an interview or press conference. He stated it as a possible explanation for the strong links between X and VII.

[darkchrono]

Is their any solid proof that this is the case or is this basically just some theory that a few fans thought up to account for some stuff in the games.The theory was put forward by one of the writers (not Tetsuya Nomura, but someone else) at an interview or press conference. He stated it as a possible explanation for the strong links between X and VII.


Oh ok good deal. I just wasn't sure if it was valid or if it was just another one of those far reaching ideas that fans alot of times come up with.

Maybe that has something to do with why 7 and 10 are the two series in which they have continued on. Maybe if they continue making games for the two franchises they will begin connecting the dots.

[Zeromus_X]

That writer would be Yoshinori Kitase.

[darkchrono]

Did they give any indication about how long the ff10 series takes place before the ff7 series.

[The Crystal]

The theory was put forward by one of the writers (not Tetsuya Nomura, but someone else) at an interview or press conference. He stated it as a possible explanation for the strong links between X and VII.

And the theory open a plot-hole in the story of FFVII.
It's stated(in FFVII, or in the UOG, or in both of them) that Shinra begun as a Weapon Manufacturer company. That happened BEFORE they discovered about Mako and what it could do for them.
But Kitase said that Shinra's(of FFX-2) ancestors already knew about Mako when they came to Gaia, and created the Shinra company using the power of it.

Plot-hole. :monster:

[Big D]

And the theory open a plot-hole in the story of FFVII.
It's stated(in FFVII, or in the UOG, or in both of them) that Shinra begun as a Weapon Manufacturer company. That happened BEFORE they discovered about Mako and what it could do for them.
But Kitase said that Shinra's(of FFX-2) ancestors already knew about Mako when they came to Gaia, and created the Shinra company using the power of it.

Plot-hole. :monster:Not necessarily a plot-hole. He doesn't state for a fact that Shinra Co was founded by Shinra's descendants as soon as they arrived on the new planet. Rather, they developed the technology for harnessing spirit energy, then eventually they migrated and took that concept with them.

There's no sign of recent human arrival on FFVII's world, so the logical conclusion is that they arrived in the far-distant past. There's strong evidence of an ancient, vanished civilisation - the airship Shera, and the jet at the Bone Village excavation site - so some of that may have come with the humans from Spira. Civilisation flourished and collapsed at least once, and eventually the 'present' world grew, and Shinra Co rediscovered the notion of harvesting spirit energy.

Not a plot hole at all, just a looong stretch of forgotten history. The recurrence of the name 'Shinra' is most likely a coincidence rather than an indication of direct lineage, considering that it's probably been millennia since the Gullwings' technician's descendants moved planets.

[darkchrono]

Well if the FFX series and the FFVII series are indeed connected and FFX took place a thousand+ years before FFVII one thing is certain. People definitely decided to start wearing a little more clothing as the years went by, lol.


Anyway, so are they done with the FFX franchise or do they have plans to make more stories within that series as well.

[The Crystal]

Not a plot hole at all, just a looong stretch of forgotten history. The recurrence of the name 'Shinra' is most likely a coincidence rather than an indication of direct lineage, considering that it's probably been millennia since the Gullwings' technician's descendants moved planets.


Well, you could say the feelings I have are like that. When I think about the characters, those are the kinds of feelings I already have. Shinra is a good child, but his descendants are going to end up becoming like the president [of Shin-Ra]