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Goldenboko
07-13-2007, 07:20 PM
What does Selphie have Junctioned?

Slothy
07-13-2007, 09:23 PM
I'll give it to Selphie. The combination of Black Magic and those enormous nunchucks means Tifa's not going to get close enough to punch and kick.

jammi567
07-13-2007, 09:38 PM
Tifa, as she doesn't need spells or wepons to pack a good puch! ;)

demondude
07-13-2007, 09:41 PM
Selphie she has a nunchuck longer range ftw

f f freak
07-13-2007, 10:09 PM
Well this is tough. What exactly is monk materia? And what would Selphie have junctioned. Based on skills I'd say Tifa, but if I knew what monk materia and what magic Selphie had then I might change my mind. Don't count my vote yet.

Northcrest
07-13-2007, 10:22 PM
Tifa, as she doesn't need spells or wepons to pack a good puch! ;)

Yeah Tifa is 100% pure spunk.

Bolivar
07-14-2007, 01:03 AM
I'm assuming monk materia would be things like HP+, Critical Hit (store/advance), Added Cut(Kick), probably a few others.

I'm going with Tifa, she's one of the most rewarding characters in VII if you use her, Selphie you gotta work with a little bit. Plus when I think about both's Limits, I really gotta go w/ ms. lockheart

Brennan
07-14-2007, 01:18 AM
Tifa but i could be wrong

Laddy
07-14-2007, 05:45 AM
Selphie has Attack-Magic-Draw-Item, she uses all Basic to Intermediate Black Magic. Tifa has Added-Cut and Throw.

Takara
07-14-2007, 07:55 AM
Heh, tough choice. I'm giving this one to Selphie, because whenever Tifa hits her a lot, Selphie will get a limit and can cast Full-Cure on herself. Or even cast a series of those Black Magic spells at Tifa. Or even cast The End on her if she's lucky.

Ms. Lockheart at least gets credits for putting up one hell of a fight against Ms. Tilmitt.

Cledarius
07-15-2007, 07:03 PM
I think Tifa would win this one. With her agility and power she's better skilled. And if we talk about limits, Tifa sure would win with Final Heaven.

And thinking that monk materia is HP+ and maybe some healing spells and some attack spells, well Tifa would win again against dark magic.

P.S: look at my sig ;)

qwertysaur
07-15-2007, 07:12 PM
I'm going to have to give this one to Selphie. Tifa's limits can miss, but Selphie can cast full cure with her limit. It would be an intense battle though.

Masamunemaster
07-15-2007, 09:22 PM
Tifa all the way just because she is from the better FF title

atlanteay
07-15-2007, 09:25 PM
Tifa because she doesn't use any weapons. So if it was a fair game where no one uses weapons or any equipments, tifa would definitely win.

f f freak
07-15-2007, 11:10 PM
Well my vote goes to Tifa. Her Limit Break is better. She can get 9999 with just one attack so the rest of them is just over kill. Selphie probably wouldn't get the end and if she did get Full Cure... well she'd probably be dead before that.

Goldenboko
07-15-2007, 11:45 PM
Selphie has Attack-Magic-Draw-Item, she uses all Basic to Intermediate Black Magic. Tifa has Added-Cut and Throw.
I meant to her stats =D

jammi567
07-16-2007, 12:43 AM
Tifa all the way just because she is from the better FF title
Please say that that vote doesn't count, as it's a personalised reason, rather then looking at the skills of the two women and comparing them.

PuPu
07-16-2007, 03:06 AM
Tifa, cause she's a way better fighter. After all, we all know how good she is with her fists.


Tifa all the way just because she is from the better FF title
Please say that that vote doesn't count, as it's a personalised reason, rather then looking at the skills of the two women and comparing them.
Jammi, I'm 99.9% sure you're only saying that just because the vote was against the FF8 character, from the game which you like so much. After all, some people's votes didn't even have reasons at all. I think even one of your votes was just to spite the other character which you didn't like.

jammi567
07-16-2007, 11:52 AM
Errr, no. It was because they had a crap reason for picking that character.

Firo Volondé
07-16-2007, 01:24 PM
Tifa all the way just because she is from the better FF title
Please say that that vote doesn't count, as it's a personalised reason, rather then looking at the skills of the two women and comparing them.
Jammi, I'm 99.9% sure you're only saying that just because the vote was against the FF8 character, from the game which you like so much. After all, some people's votes didn't even have reasons at all. I think even one of your votes was just to spite the other character which you didn't like.

He voted for Tifa, so I doubt that's the reason


Selphie has Attack-Magic-Draw-Item, she uses all Basic to Intermediate Black Magic. Tifa has Added-Cut and Throw.

Throw is a Ninja skill. It's always difficult to gauge FF7 and FF8 characters, because apart from limits, they're basically all clones (except for Squall, if you want to be pendatic about the R1 trigger), so you shouldn't take any Materia or Junctioning into account.




Tifa all the way just because she is from the better FF title
Please say that that vote doesn't count, as it's a personalised reason, rather then looking at the skills of the two women and comparing them.
Jammi, I'm 99.9% sure you're only saying that just because the vote was against the FF8 character, from the game which you like so much. After all, some people's votes didn't even have reasons at all. I think even one of your votes was just to spite the other character which you didn't like.

He voted for Tifa, so I doubt that's the reason. In any case, I doubt Tifa will win by a single vote, so it doesn't matter.

I actually think Selphie would win this one. Her limit break is better, her weapon is superior, and she would probably have better combat training.

Cezanzo
07-16-2007, 09:10 PM
I didnt read anything...and guessing this is Selphie vs Tifa? In that case, Selphie because of her limit and her magic.

duh

PuPu
07-17-2007, 10:11 AM
Errr, no. It was because they had a crap reason for picking that character.
Sorry, I guess I did jump to a conclusion pretty quick because I only took a quick glance at the posts and missed some details.

Either way, there's always going to be crap reasons. Like I said, some may not have reasons at all. I'm guessing more than half the total votes had crap reasons or none at all. It's just something we'll have to live with I suppose.

Laddy
07-20-2007, 04:58 PM
Tifa-8 Selphie-4
Once "Fight" is announced, Selphie gets nuked.

Laddy
07-20-2007, 04:59 PM
Gogo VS Tidus

As much as I dislike him, Tidus stronger and faster, so Tidus.

qwertysaur
07-20-2007, 05:13 PM
Tidus attacks, gogo attacks. Tidus uses delay buster, gogo doesn't get to attack. Tidus wins.

Slothy
07-20-2007, 06:23 PM
I'll give it to Tidus. Gogo may be able to mimic any attack, but Tidus has to attack first. He's also faster than Gogo so I doubt he'll be able to keep up with him.

Northcrest
07-20-2007, 07:06 PM
Tidus would win all that Gogo does is copy every move. And like what qwertxsora stated just use a delay buster every turn and Gogo can't copy the move so Tidus wins.

demondude
07-20-2007, 08:39 PM
Gogo

f f freak
07-20-2007, 10:44 PM
Gogo could attack first. Go play Final Fantasy 6 and select his Mimic command without giving anyone else a command. See what happens? What's that? He attacks? Yep thought so. Delay Buster could miss. Gogo could have a Ribbon equipped. If Tidus gets Delay Buster then Gogo gets a Ribbon. Or something else that is decent relic wise. My vote goes to Gogo.

atlanteay
07-20-2007, 11:05 PM
Gogo.

Slothy
07-21-2007, 02:30 AM
Gogo could attack first.

From a stat perspective, his are the worst of almost every character in FFVI. Tidus on the other hand is the fastest character in FFX with the exception of Rikku. He'd attack first everytime.

Takara
07-21-2007, 05:00 AM
I'm gonna have to give this one to Tidus as well, because if Gogo cannot mimic any of his party members action, all he can do is attack. Tidus would attack faster and more powerfully.

Firo Volondé
07-21-2007, 08:46 AM
Which Gogo is it? V or VI?
I'll assume VI because Gogo is an ally in that one.

Although not much is known about Gogo except that she can Mimic, I don't think she could put up much resistance. In general, a mime, like a white mage, loses the edge their skills give them when in a one-on-one. And Tidus has a natural strength advantage. So Tidus by a long way.

Masamunemaster
07-21-2007, 06:56 PM
I hate tidus but he would have about 3 attacks so this is how he would go:
Delay buster, quick attack( seeing how it allows him to have an average of 2 attacks he uses it again), delay buster, repeat over and over again

f f freak
07-21-2007, 07:46 PM
Okay, I think that that RedXIII13 should state what skills Tidus has and what Relics Gogo has. Because otherwise people are just saying that Gogo can only mimic whereas Tidus can do every single move on the frickin sphere grid(Okay Exageration I know but still) Because that's just unfair otherwise.

Firo Volondé
07-22-2007, 04:24 AM
I think that system of "say which skills each person has" is unreliable, as most character's abilities are highly ambiguous, and one mistake can lead to a character getting a flood of votes they didn't deserve and knocking out the superior fighter. It wouldn't the first time it's happened with an FFVI character. Tidus has been limited to his part of the Sphere Grid (hasn't been given stuff like Auto-Life or Use), so it's as fair as you can get with these two characters.

f f freak
07-22-2007, 02:00 PM
And what about Gogo? He can use most Relics, if not all.

Laddy
07-22-2007, 09:21 PM
Tidus has Delay Buster and Slow.
Gogo has Ribbon and Protect Ring.

PuPu
07-23-2007, 03:14 AM
Many of you seem to be using battle mechanics to determine the winner. I'm just going to remind everybody that you can't use it (effectively) here because the battle system of VI and X are very different. VI uses ATB and X has a Turn-based system. Not to mention that Tidus can also do 99,999 damage at most while Gogo can only do 9,999 damage.

Based on his character, Tidus is very quick and agile. We know Gogo can mimic (almost) any action. In my opinion, Gogo can mimic Tidus' actions, but not his speed. Tidus wins.

jammi567
07-23-2007, 04:54 PM
Tidus, as speed wins over mimicness.

Laddy
07-23-2007, 06:22 PM
Tidus-7 Gogo-3
Tidus pouts in his Abercrombie to victory!

Locke (Ramuh esper.) VS Vaan (Time Magic and Steal)

Northcrest
07-23-2007, 07:08 PM
Vaan all he has to do is cast Haste on himself than cast slow on Locke and Vaan would be alot faster, or maybe even stop. This would be the opportunity for Vaan to start smashing down on Locke causing an overwhelming win.

Azure Chrysanthemum
07-23-2007, 09:08 PM
Yeah, Time Magic wins it for Vaan.

Bolivar
07-23-2007, 09:48 PM
Locke, access to several different types of weapons makes him good in alot of different situations, plus there's some green spell on ramuh that would cancel out vaan.

Slothy
07-23-2007, 10:36 PM
Locke, access to several different types of weapons makes him good in alot of different situations, plus there's some green spell on ramuh that would cancel out vaan.

What do you mean exactly? Ramuh has Bolt, Bolt 2 and Poison. I'm not sure how any of that cancels out Vaan. I give it to Vaan since the time magic will give him a definite edge in terms of speed, particularly if he were able to stop Locke. It'd be a close one though if you ask me.

Takara
07-24-2007, 02:02 AM
Well, on one hand Locke has Poison. On the other, Vaan has Haste, Slow, and Stop...

I'm giving this one to Vaan, only because he might be able to cast Stop on Locke before Locke can cast Poison.

PuPu
07-24-2007, 02:03 AM
What good would Steal do?

With Time Magic, all Vaan would have to do is cast Haste on himself and get a significant advantage over Locke. Vaan wins. Unless RedXIII decides to give Locke the Atma Weapon and Offering or something like that.

Laddy
07-24-2007, 03:28 AM
Locke's Relics are two Earrings.

Goldenboko
07-24-2007, 04:00 AM
Locke. He has two earrings to power his magic, and being a thief treasure hunter is naturally as fast, if not faster then Vaan. Time magic is nice, but not if your opponent can blast you as soon as your done casting your haste.

Vaan readies haste, Locke readies Thunder, Vaan uses haste, Vaan gets stuck by lightning... Locke wins.

Slothy
07-24-2007, 04:04 AM
Locke. He has two earrings to power his magic, and being a thief treasure hunter is naturally as fast, if not faster then Vaan. Time magic is nice, but not if your opponent can blast you as soon as your done casting your haste.

Vaan readies haste, Locke readies Thunder, Vaan uses haste, Vaan gets stuck by lightning... Locke wins.

Vaan could just as easily cast stop on Locke. Considering I've never seen it miss your characters under normal circumstances, we can pretty much count on it hitting him. Let's see him cast anything if he can't move.

Firo Volondé
07-24-2007, 08:44 AM
There's also the fact that Time Magick kicks ass in XII, and is by far the most useful to have in a one-on-one fight (since White works better in a group). First, Vaan casts Reflect to neutralize Bolt and Poison, Haste to give himself a speed advantage, Immobilize, Disable and Stop to render Locke helpless, then use Bleed, Break or Countdown to finish him without even drawing his weapon. This battle is a complete joke. Vaan wins, very easily.

jammi567
07-24-2007, 11:21 PM
Locke, as he casts poison on Vaan, Vann casts haste on himself (because locke;s fater and Vann had already picked his move). The poison damages Vaan, he uses an antidote, he wastes a turn, Locke uses poison again etc.

Locke wins.

qwertysaur
07-25-2007, 03:11 AM
Vaan. He cast stop on Locke, then haste on himself, then steals to kill whats left of Lockes dignity.

demondude
08-15-2007, 04:36 PM
Locke he'll steal vaans clothes so vaan runs off embarressed. ;)

Goldenboko
08-15-2007, 06:18 PM
Locke, as he casts poison on Vaan, Vann casts haste on himself (because locke;s fater and Vann had already picked his move). The poison damages Vaan, he uses an antidote, he wastes a turn, Locke uses poison again etc.

Locke wins.

You're forgetting that Locke could use Reflect. Vaan. He could reflect immobolized and bleed Locke to death.

PuPu
08-15-2007, 06:55 PM
Locke, as he casts poison on Vaan, Vann casts haste on himself (because locke;s fater and Vann had already picked his move). The poison damages Vaan, he uses an antidote, he wastes a turn, Locke uses poison again etc.

Locke wins.

You're forgetting that Locke could use Reflect. Vaan. He could reflect immobolized and bleed Locke to death.
Didn't you already vote for Locke a few posts ago?

Hazzard
08-15-2007, 07:30 PM
Locke, as he casts poison on Vaan, Vann casts haste on himself (because locke;s fater and Vann had already picked his move). The poison damages Vaan, he uses an antidote, he wastes a turn, Locke uses poison again etc.

Locke wins.

You're forgetting that Locke could use Reflect. Vaan. He could reflect immobolized and bleed Locke to death.

...Or, Vaan could get multiple hits with a sexy, masumune, killing..them..all!!!

Goldenboko
08-15-2007, 08:09 PM
Locke, as he casts poison on Vaan, Vann casts haste on himself (because locke;s fater and Vann had already picked his move). The poison damages Vaan, he uses an antidote, he wastes a turn, Locke uses poison again etc.

Locke wins.

You're forgetting that Locke could use Reflect. Vaan. He could reflect immobolized and bleed Locke to death.
Didn't you already vote for Locke a few posts ago?
I changed my mind because I remembered that FFXII has disable and reflect >:0




Locke, as he casts poison on Vaan, Vann casts haste on himself (because locke;s fater and Vann had already picked his move). The poison damages Vaan, he uses an antidote, he wastes a turn, Locke uses poison again etc.

Locke wins.

You're forgetting that Locke could use Reflect. Vaan. He could reflect immobolized and bleed Locke to death.

...Or, Vaan could get multiple hits with a sexy, masumune, killing..them..all!!!

You can't count something like that, then you could say that Locke could just Genji Glove and Offering the crap out of Vaan.

Laddy
08-15-2007, 09:26 PM
Vaan-8 Locke-3

Vaan kills Locke!

Ashe (White Magic and a little Green) VS RedXIII (Red Mage, Sense, with Black and White Magic.)

Slothy
08-15-2007, 11:26 PM
I'll give it to Ashe. Her apparent access to all white magic, as well as skill with sword and shield will give Red XIII a very hard time. Particularly if she blasts him with Holy. Throw in a little protect, shell, and possibly blind or silence and Red XIII will be stuck either healing all the time, or dealing little to no damage with his attacks. Sense will do him no good, and as a Red Mage, he won't have access to the high level magics that could really make or break the fight.

Bolivar
08-16-2007, 07:58 PM
Vaan beating Locke!? Umaro winning over Cloud!? It's the apocalypse!

Gotta go with Red XIII, he's got high stats all around, just with his father's momento he'd tear ashe apart in a short amount of time.

qwertysaur
08-16-2007, 08:00 PM
Ashe. She could use protect, shell, regen, renew, and holy.