Tomorrow Never Dies

[The Fat Bioware Nerd]

What do you think of Tomorrow Never Dies? I didn't like this movie because of Michelle Yeoh she was too ugly to be a Bond girl...I mean even Grace Jones was a better looking Bond girl than Michelle Yeoh.

[Odaisé Gaelach]

You didn't like the film because you thought an actress was ugly?

[Tifa's Real Lover(really]

i liked this movie

[The Fat Bioware Nerd]

You didn't like the film because you thought an actress was ugly?

Yeah so? A lot of people didn't like the 1990 Dick Tracy film because Madonna was in it.

[Odaisé Gaelach]

Yeah so? A lot of people didn't like the 1990 Dick Tracy film because Madonna was in it.

If her acting was bad, or if she was badly cast, then that's a good reason. But if it was just because she was Madonna, that's not a good reason. Not liking a film just because one of the actresses was ugly - never mind how good of an actress she was, or how the rest of the film was - is unfair.

Plus I thought she was pretty hot. :D

I liked it. Elliot Carver was a bit weak as the main villian, but the action scenes were very good - especially the motorcycle chase. And Mr. Stamper. :cool:

[The Fat Bioware Nerd]

Yeah so? A lot of people didn't like the 1990 Dick Tracy film because Madonna was in it.

If her acting was bad, or if she was badly cast, then that's a good reason. But if it was just because she was Madonna, that's not a good reason. Not liking a film just because one of the actresses was ugly - never mind how good of an actress she was, or how the rest of the film was - is unfair.

Plus I thought she was pretty hot. :D

I liked it. Elliot Carver was a bit weak as the main villian, but the action scenes were very good - especially the motorcycle chase. And Mr. Stamper. :cool:

Okay how about this reason? Tomorrow Never Dies would've been a better film if Martin Campbell directed it because GoldenEye was a good movie. Tomorrow Never Dies was boring in my opinion. *Yawn*

[Odaisé Gaelach]

Okay how about this reason? Tomorrow Never Dies would've been a better film if Martin Campbell directed it because GoldenEye was a good movie. Tomorrow Never Dies was boring in my opinion. *Yawn*

That's better! :D

[Breine]

Michelle Yeoh is definitely not ugly - and if my memory serves me right she used to be Miss Malaysia or something back in the day.

Anyway, Miss Yeoh is such a badass when it comes to martial arts. She's up there with Jackie Chan and Jet Li.

As for the movie I thought it was so-so. Actually, Michelle Yeoh was the only really enjoyable thing about it in my opinion.

[I Don't Need A Name]

I agree with John in saying that it was pretty boring. it wasnt as enticing as the other movies...and not many interesting gadgets

[Big D]

Very paltry film overall, little more than a collection of Bond/action cliches in my opinion.
The idea of manipulating the world via manufactured news was done well, though.

Michelle Yeoh's performance was one of the highlights, for me. Energetic performer, and possessing a strong beauty and maturity, in contrast to the wallflower types who so often end up cast opposite Bond.

Still, a highly forgettable movie in nearly every respect.

[Mirage]

The lack of gadgets was made up for with a really awesome car.
I liked the film, but it wasn't as good as Goldeneye, which I consider to be the best Bond film featuring Brosnan.

[ReloadPsi]

The lack of gadgets was made up for with a really awesome car.
I liked the film, but it wasn't as good as Goldeneye, which I consider to be the best Bond film featuring Brosnan.

Congratulations on a safe journey!

And yeah, GoldenEye's my favourite Bond movie altogether.

[Kossage]

This is a Bond movie which is quite average on many levels after the interesting GoldenEye, but it certainly has charm of its own.

First of all, I can't stress this one enough: the music in TND is a million times better than that trash of a score in GoldenEye. Eric Serra's synthetic approach wasn't suitable for a Bond film in the first place, and GoldenEye should've deserved a score which TND eventually got. David Arnold's score combines orchestra, synths, choir and even some ethnic instruments in a highly enjoyable score which modernized Bond scores and also retained the classic Barry roots which Serra's abysmal score failed to do. There are some great action cues, a notable example being "Station Break" which foreshadows the darker aspects of the "Paris and Bond" love theme while having a relentless rhythm as action takes place on screen.

Not only does David Arnold quote the Bond theme (e.g. in the thrilling "Backseat Driver" and the elegant "Company Car") but he also works two other significant themes into the mix as well as various motifs. The "Paris and Bond" love theme is very tragic and touching and evolves throughout the film. The "Surrender" theme works its way into the underscore and has an awesome ethnic performance in "Kowloon Bay". "Surrender" is performed as an end credits song by k.d. lang, and Arnold had a hand in writing it in a traditional Bond song style (gotta love the sultry vocals and the overall feel of the song). Originally it was meant to be the theme song for TND but thanks to some lame studio executives Sheryl Crow's awful song replaced it. Still, both "Surrender" and Arnold's score are reminiscent of some of Barry's best Bond scores and songs. TND is the best Bond score David Arnold has written so far.

Michelle Yeoh and Jonathan Pryce were spot-on in their roles, and Teri Hatcher's Paris was one of the most memorable Bond girls, although I guess the tragic storyline for her character was the thing that really made me care for her. Still, that particular tragic aspect gave more depth to the story and also showed more of Brosnan's Bond than we saw in GoldenEye. Some of the action scenes were quite nice, e.g. the bike/helicopter chase and the sinking of the Devonshire. The way the two villains died in the end was kind of anticlimactic in many ways, but then again we had some great scenes with Dr. Kaufman who was a wonderful despite not being a major character. The media angle in the story was rather interesting as well, and some of the location shots were simply breathtaking. And that car was just great. :p

All in all, Tomorrow Never Dies was satisfying on some levels but still somewhat disappointing in others. It kind of had a no-win situation because it came after the successful GoldenEye and had a hard time living up to it. Still, TND isn't a bad Bond film but certainly not the greatest either. To summarize, it's an average Bond film with some notable moments and a great score and song.

[Discord]

My favourite James Bond film.:)

[licence]

Average Bond film...no where near the likes of The Living Daylights or Goldeneye.

[Ishin Ookami]

I have a thing for strong women, so yah I think Michelle Yeoh was HAWT in that film. I personally didn't like how she eventually had to be rescued, since it was obvious from the outset that she could have kicked Pierce Brosnans arse back to the cold war ten times over without breaking a sweat, but still.

And she definitely wasn't ugly. She was indeed Miss Malaysia, and has kept her looks very well. even though she was in her forties when the film was made.

So yah, in a nutshell. I'd hit it in a heartbeat.

[The Fat Bioware Nerd]

She might have a hot body but she doesn't have a hot face in my opinion. And who cares if she could kick Brosnan's ass ten times over it's a movie and movies aren't real.

[Ishin Ookami]

She might have a hot body but she doesn't have a hot face in my opinion.

I actually like her face quite a bit. Attractive and feminine without being dainty or too atypical china doll-ish. But meh, to each their own.


And who cares if she could kick Brosnan's ass ten times over it's a movie and movies aren't real.

As I mentioned, I have a thing for strong women. I would have liked the film better if they hadn't tried to water her down and turn her into the typical bond girl in distress just to play up Pierce Brosnan a little. Since yah, she really is that dangerous in real life

[The Fat Bioware Nerd]

Another thing that I didn't like about Tomorrow Never Dies is Sheryl Crow's music "You Know My Name" is definitely better than this garbage IMHO.


I actually like her face quite a bit. Attractive and feminine without being dainty or too atypical china doll-ish. But meh, to each their own.

As I mentioned, I have a thing for strong women. I would have liked the film better if they hadn't tried to water her down and turn her into the typical bond girl in distress just to play up Pierce Brosnan a little. Since yah, she really is that dangerous in real life

I guess don't you mind if Michelle has a little bit of a man face do you?

If Michelle Yeoh is that dangerous in real life do you think she could've single-handedly stopped 911 had she been on that plane?

[Discord]

I believe he's refering to her as being strong in character, what she is compared to a good number of bond girls.

Then again, physically strong doesn't mean that you've got super-powers. Craig is definitaly not a weakling, however I doubt that he could stop a group of 5 armed terrorists with his (bare) P99 and quick reflexes..

[Ishin Ookami]

I believe he's refering to her as being strong in character, what she is compared to a good number of bond girls.

Then again, physically strong doesn't mean that you've got super-powers. Craig is definitaly not a weakling, however I doubt that he could stop a group of 5 armed terrorists with his (bare) P99 and quick reflexes..

Well, Michelle Yeoh is that skilled in real life. She started out as a dancer, but 25+ years using that flexibility and speed, all while being directed by expert martial arts choreographers, well by this point I definitely wouldn't want to get on her bad side. She did ALL her own stunts in tomarrow never dies, and those stunts are rather tame compared to some of the freaky stuff I've seen her do in Hong Kong films. Her own husband has gone on record saying she could kick his butt in a heartbeat.

As for her having a mans face, it certainly didn't bother the judges when she won Miss Malaysia, or her costars considering she's done a variety of romantic comedies in hong kong, or the viewing public that enjoyed those movies. Seems like your kind of on your own in that opinion jack.

As for the 911 comment... ummm, she's not a superhero dude. Just what the samhill does that got to do with what time it is? Considering all the hate I'm wondering if you didn't try out for the part of the bond girl of Tomarrow never dies and have been carrying a huge chip on your shoulder ever since.