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Yew-Yevon
07-07-2007, 07:02 PM
YouTube - Heavy Rain (PS3 TECH DEMO) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0Kl6Rp_sdk&mode=related&search=)

http://www.ageia.com/flash/heavyrain.swf

This is insane. If this game is as good looking as this when it launches then the true quantum leap is clear to me. (I'v read too many things about how PS3 has done nothing the 360 can't do.) Well... what are your thoughts on this.

Discuss.

Khaotic
07-07-2007, 07:33 PM
Not really impressed, and no I'm not a sony hater, I just don't care for graphics in my games, the gameplay makes the game, not the graphics. I'll admit they look nice, although slightly creepy.

Karellen
07-07-2007, 07:36 PM
Seen it. Not sure why people find it so impressive.

LunarWeaver
07-07-2007, 07:41 PM
I thought it was neat :jess:

Yew-Yevon
07-07-2007, 07:50 PM
I know that gameplay is imporntant. This video only show how far the Cell can go in terms of graphical capability.(that seems to be the fad right now.) I'm not sure what the gameplay will be like but if they took this much effort in building the engine, the gameplay will be fleshed out in time. I think that developers have finaly disided to stop hiding from the complications of developing for the system. Only time will tell But I think things are realy looking up for PS3 fans. I have yet to buy one but I'm saving up for it.

Shoeberto
07-07-2007, 07:56 PM
The animation is superb and for the most part it's really well put together, but that facial design is really weird. It's like they modelled it after a real person's face but left out most of the subtle details that make them look human and not like a weirdo.

Yew-Yevon
07-07-2007, 08:17 PM
Thats true. The face had little quirks that mad it less real then it could have been. Still...it looked damn close to CG when you got a medium shot. I noticed that the details in the certain and the potted plant as well as the rest of the room all had a bit of physics and acted verry well. If they can some how fix the lighting in the mouth and the eyes then it would be hard to tell it was even a render. Some stuff still needs fixing such as the lipsyncronisation and mabe the sound. Dose anyone know what the story might be...or even a possible launch date? I just found this on youtube after all. I'm going to keep reserching this cause it definitly has my intrest.

Maxico
07-07-2007, 08:38 PM
Definite uncanny valley material.

Apparantly this was running on non final PS3 hardware and the engine was in the research and development phase at the time (This was E3 last year, it's pretty old).

Apparantly her face was fully motion captured, so I'm not sure why it seems so rigid. Her eyebrows don't move much. Her mouth looks weird but that seems more like a problem with the model.

Also the way that light shines on the side of her face that should be covered by the hair bothers me, but that's barely noticeable.

Yew-Yevon
07-07-2007, 08:42 PM
I put a link for a beter vid thats also downloadable. and it doesn't have the echo problem eather.

Maxico
07-07-2007, 10:23 PM
Or, y'know, a proper full resolution link

Gametrailers.com - Heavy Rain - E3 2K6 Tech Demo HD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/10758.html)

Slicksword45
07-07-2007, 10:29 PM
Knda creepy how good that looks XD

Germ Hamee
07-07-2007, 11:11 PM
The graphics are alright. The animation is fantastic. I know this is just a tech demo, but I am completely in love with the short story.

The subtitle for this game is "The Origami Killer", and it has nothing to do with the story in this tech demo. It's supposed to come out this fall. If Quantum Leap's previous game is any indication (Indigo Prophecy), I'm certain this game will be amazing. I love the idea of fully interactive "movies".

Hyperion4444
07-08-2007, 12:27 AM
There alot more of theses video on the official site...

Dreddz
07-08-2007, 12:29 AM
At parts I think it is pretty amazing but in some parts it looks totally off. Either way, tech demo's bore me to no end, I wanna know what the hell this game is about.

Proxy
07-08-2007, 01:08 AM
At parts I think it is pretty amazing but in some parts it looks totally off. Either way, tech demo's bore me to no end, I wanna know what the hell this game is about.

tech demos bore you to death? Have you seen the FFVII tech demo on the PS3? Probably not then

Dreddz
07-08-2007, 01:10 AM
At parts I think it is pretty amazing but in some parts it looks totally off. Either way, tech demo's bore me to no end, I wanna know what the hell this game is about.

tech demos bore you to death? Have you seen the FFVII tech demo on the PS3? Probably not then

I saw it once and said ok, when is this game going to be released. Found out it wasnt. And thats the end of that story.

Mirage
07-08-2007, 02:00 AM
I'm with Dreddz. Tech demos are interesting just about once, then I want to know what the game has to offer other than graphics.

Some parts of this demo were great, others weren't. To be specific, it was great until she started changing facial expressions, that just looked fake.

Anyway, seeing as this video is over a year old, I'm kinda curious about how it looks now.

Roto13
07-08-2007, 03:04 AM
I didn't even know it was a game until the other day. I thought it was a short film.

Mirage
07-08-2007, 03:44 AM
Someone should link me to the official website or some newer footage, because I'm too lazy to find it myself.

ReloadPsi
07-08-2007, 01:05 PM
The jump in graphical quality from 8-bit to 16-bit was astounding: Compare the NES and SNES, as well as the Master System and Mega Drive.

16-bit to 32-bit? PlayStation owned the SNES and Mega Drive, as did the N64. Again, massive improvement.

Then on the PS2, GameCube and XBox, the graphics were hugely improved yet again.

Why oh why aren't the graphics so noticeably better on these new consoles? (Don't try and tell me they are. They're not.)

Slothy
07-08-2007, 02:09 PM
Why oh why aren't the graphics so noticeably better on these new consoles? (Don't try and tell me they are. They're not.)

Have you actually played a proper next-gen game?

Games like Fight Night Round 3, Oblivion, VF5, are all a massive improvement over the previous gen in a lot of ways (except maybe character models in the case of Oblivion. Theirs were terrible). Nobody can honestly look me in the eye and tell me these games aren't the same sort of graphical leap. Hell, you can see the Fighters pores in Fight Night.

With regard to the Heavy Rain demo; everything about it looks great; the character model, the environment, and the character animation, with the noticeable exception of facial animation. The people commenting that the facial animation, in particular the mouth, looked wierd are dead on. Her mouth isn't moving enough when she forms words, and aside from the eye lids, it looks like they aren't animating many other muscles in her face. That said, that stuff is some of the hardest to do, and the only time I've ever seen realistic facial animation done convincingly is Half-Life 2. I'm still intrigued to see the final game though and what it's like. Hopefully they manage to tweak the facial animation into something more convincing.

Moon Rabbits
07-08-2007, 05:21 PM
I thought the graphics were amazing (aside from something about the woman's mouth, I can't figure out what it was that bothered me though), and the animation like has been stated before.

But I still thought the voice acting and little story were miles better than anything else in that video.

Rase
07-09-2007, 12:12 AM
At parts I think it is pretty amazing but in some parts it looks totally off. Either way, tech demo's bore me to no end, I wanna know what the hell this game is about.
Pretty much my thoughts exactly.

Croyles
07-18-2007, 09:40 PM
Indigo Prophecy was really cool, so this game should rock.......I hope.
This was only a technical demo though, nothing to do with the actual game. They just showed off the engine they were gonna use for their game.

Flying Mullet
07-18-2007, 09:44 PM
Unfortunately this game got mediocre reviews. Apparently the team spent so much time on the graphics that the game is extremely linear and one-dimensional.

Croyles
07-18-2007, 09:54 PM
Unfortunately this game got mediocre reviews. Apparently the team spent so much time on the graphics that the game is extremely linear and one-dimensional.

Are you talking about Indigo Prophecy or Heavy Rain? Because Heavy Rain hasnt even gotten a release date yet. And we havnt actually seen ANYTHING from the game apart from this video, which is only a tech demo.

Oh wait, your joking. Some weird outer worldly humour that I am not capable of understanding ;)

Flying Mullet
07-18-2007, 10:26 PM
Unfortunately this game got mediocre reviews. Apparently the team spent so much time on the graphics that the game is extremely linear and one-dimensional.

Are you talking about Indigo Prophecy or Heavy Rain? Because Heavy Rain hasnt even gotten a release date yet. And we havnt actually seen ANYTHING from the game apart from this video, which is only a tech demo.

Oh wait, your joking. Some weird outer worldly humour that I am not capable of understanding ;)
Sorry, you're right, I was thinking of Raw Danger. It's a game about a flooding rain and when I saw Heavy Rain I assumed that it was the same game. :monster:

darkchrono
07-22-2007, 01:58 AM
Like many others have stated the graphics looked great until they went to closeups of the girls face. Facial animations seem to still be two or three system generations away from looking realistic.

I wish however that the animators would realize this problem with current generation systems and not do close-ups of characters faces so often when they are speaking lines. You can really fall into the make believe world and get interested in the story that is being told until you see close-ups of characters trying to speak. Then that just snaps you right out of it again.

Just like camera men are able to get around imperfections of people in movies and t.v. shows so they look alot better. I wish they would do the same thing with video games. Facial animations is still a clear weakness of current generations so I wish they would find away to get around that instead of focusing right on it for all the world to see.