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Vermachtnis
07-18-2007, 05:12 PM
When do you think a game or system is considered old? According to some random guy at Gamestop it last gen. I was kind of nodding going, "Yeah, sure" thinking he was talking about N64 or PSOne. I went on to the PS2 section and picked up one of the newer games (Came out just couple weeks before) and the guy came up and said that games kind of old isn't it. I had no idea what to say. He was being quite literal: PS2, Gamecube, and XBox are now old.

When do you guys think a game is old? Do any of you guys share opinions with this guy?

Personally I think after 15 years a game can be considered old.

sephirothishere
07-18-2007, 05:25 PM
Hmm... Well, some games have had remakes, so I would call the older counterparts 'old'. However, a game's age wouldn't really warrant calling it old. Some games that are still commonly played, whether they are on SNES or PS1, should not always be considered old.

JKTrix
07-18-2007, 05:35 PM
When a game comes out in a certain genre that surpasses other existing games in the genre, that makes the other games old to me.

Some games are 'old' right out of the box.

Lynx
07-18-2007, 05:46 PM
vide games are timeless in my book jsut last week i was playing bubble and bobble on NES.

cloud21zidane16
07-18-2007, 05:55 PM
to me all the games that i like never get old.

Obsidian
07-18-2007, 06:07 PM
PS1 and N64 games became "old" years ago. These days, old for me begins with first generation PS2 games like Dynasty Warriors 2 and the first Onimusha.

Roto13
07-18-2007, 07:12 PM
A few years into the following console generation.

Shoeberto
07-18-2007, 07:18 PM
I still refuse to admit that any console capable of producing 3D graphics is old.

KentaRawr!
07-18-2007, 07:31 PM
I'd say a system which is 10 or so years old is old.

Northcrest
07-18-2007, 07:34 PM
N64 and PSX and older.

The Ceej
07-18-2007, 07:55 PM
No systems are old until they're retired. Many of them aren't even old after that.

A game being old really depends on its popularity. For example, games like Final Fantasy VII and Super Mario Brothers 3 are not old yet, whereas Need For Speed 4 (which came out years later) is. It's not about its age. In fact, classics never get old, so you won't have to worry about any Final Fantasy games ever getting old.

PlayStation 2 can't be old yet because no one has a PlayStation 3 yet. It's too expensive and there aren't any games for it worth buying yet. PlayStation 2 is a current system, whereas PlayStation 3 is a new system.

Atari is old. NES is getting there. SNES is far from old. However, N64 was the first system to be an exception to my rule. It was old the day after it came out. SNES is the best Nintendo system. That's why Sony built on it for their PlayStation. That and it was originally meant to be an attachment for it. Whereas Nintendo just kept going down and down until no one bought their stuff anymore. I may be wrong, but I believe they said they weren't going to release any new systems if the GameCube flopped. And it did. And they still released the Wii. That makes them liars. And I was looking forward to Zelda games on my PS2. Damn. This is a lot longer than I intended it to be. Better just end it now.

Ramza Beoulve
07-18-2007, 08:01 PM
For me, games made before the Video Game Crash of 1983

Tasura
07-19-2007, 06:21 AM
I don't consider games themselves old or not but the console itself, for me a console is old if there's an emulator that works perfectly, or 99% perfectly with every game. Since that can't be said for N64 or the original playstation, I don't consider either of those old.

Nominus Experse
07-19-2007, 07:20 AM
Anything up to the SEGA Saturn is what I might consider as being "old"

Atari is OMFG fossils?
NES is ancient
SNES and Genesis are quite old
PSX and N64 are "Remember when..."

Odaisé Gaelach
07-19-2007, 11:50 PM
"Old" isn't a good term for computer games, I think. A game might be years and years old and still be as innovative and original now as when it was released (System Shock 2). Conversely, a game might have been released one or two years ago, but it's since been superceded by better, more original and groundbreaking games of its genre (Halo 2).

"Old" isn't a good term to describe any kind of media. "Dated" might be a better term. :)

Old Manus
07-20-2007, 12:06 AM
Baby don't hurt me.
Don't hurt me.
No more.

Maxico
07-20-2007, 12:10 AM
You!

You are old!

EDIT: Old, like art, is a word that depends entirely on the context used.

Less threads about arbitrary classifications please.

Rostum
07-20-2007, 01:00 AM
...and the guy came up and said that games kind of old isn't it...

Just sounds like an utter moron hell bent on only appreciating the new consoles.

I'd say a game is old when its system is not being produced or developed for any more. i.e. PSX and N64 There's still a bunch of games that are yet to be released on the PS2 here.

Northcrest
07-20-2007, 02:17 AM
For me, games made before the Video Game Crash of 1983

Whats the Video Game Crash of 1983? Detail Please.

Momiji
07-20-2007, 03:02 AM
I still play my NES. Actually I was playing it just today. It doesn't feel old to me. If it's 'old' then I'm old because I grew up with that system. :D

Madame Adequate
07-20-2007, 03:46 AM
Stuff about ten years ago or more is old.

Ramza Beoulve
07-20-2007, 04:26 AM
For me, games made before the Video Game Crash of 1983

Whats the Video Game Crash of 1983? Detail Please.
Video game crash of 1983 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_crash_of_1983) Here it is, make grow your Video game knowledge :p

Zeromus_X
07-20-2007, 04:49 AM
I still refuse to admit that any console capable of producing 3D graphics is old.

The Summoner of Leviathan
07-20-2007, 04:58 AM
I use old as in the since it has been out for a while, irregardless of its popularity or innovation. So for me "old", is basically anything pre-6th gen (PS2, GameCube and XBox). "Old school" would be anything from the time of SNES and Genesis and before hand.

Northcrest
07-20-2007, 10:42 PM
For me, games made before the Video Game Crash of 1983

Whats the Video Game Crash of 1983? Detail Please.
Video game crash of 1983 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_crash_of_1983) Here it is, make grow your Video game knowledge :p

Whoa never new about this before. Thx :D

Tavrobel
07-20-2007, 10:50 PM
Old is from a previous generation. Something like a year or older.

It's just a base definition, and adverbs may be added to differentiate amongst varying degrees of old.

Ramza Beoulve
07-20-2007, 11:38 PM
For me, games made before the Video Game Crash of 1983

Whats the Video Game Crash of 1983? Detail Please.
Video game crash of 1983 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_crash_of_1983) Here it is, make grow your Video game knowledge :p

Whoa never new about this before. Thx :DYou're welcome, it's a sad and forgotten chapter on history.

Meat Puppet
07-20-2007, 11:45 PM
I believe that a game is old when the developer puts it up for free download on its website (if the game was actually making money years before, of course). Even more so if the game is so outdated that it won’t run on my operating system—which itself is 7 or so years old by today’s standards.

Big D
07-21-2007, 01:24 AM
'More than ten years old' is a good measure, but not always perfect. It's really subjective, sometimes - an obscure game might become 'old' much more quickly than a classic; some titles just date faster than others. FFVII is ten years old now, but isn't widely regarded as an 'old' game. Syphon Filter is a little newer than FFVII, but is probably considered a bit long in the tooth (even though it's still a fantastic game).
Whether or not a game's 'old' can probably depend in part on if it's still got an active presence in the collective imagination of gamers in general.

Yuffie514
07-21-2007, 07:49 AM
perhaps when there is a new line of consoles. it doesn't mean that i ever tire from my PlayStation 2 however.

Breine
07-26-2007, 02:56 PM
Games that were made around 10 years ago, I consider to be old.

AOp
07-26-2007, 03:27 PM
PSX/N64.

Galvatron
07-26-2007, 06:41 PM
Pre-PSX is old to me. But I play SNES more than anything else, I don't care about how old things are really.