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The Ceej
08-05-2007, 10:05 PM
There are a lot of urban legends regarding Disney films (http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/films.asp), some true, most not. However, I'm surprised no one has ever mentioned a big thing I've heard in The Lion King. During the song, I Just Can't Wait To Be King, (it can also be heard on the soundtrack) Zazu calls Simba an exlpletive.

Simba (Singing): I'm gonna be a mighty king, so enemies beware
Zazu (Singing): Though I've never seen a king of beast with quite so little hair
Simba (Singing): I'm gonna be the mane event like no king was before
I'm brushing up on looking down, I'm working on my roar
Zazu (Singing): Thus far a rather uninspiring thing
Simba (Singing): Oh, I just can't wait to be king
Zazu (Speaking): You've got quite a long way to go, you bastard, if you think

Now, because this line is spoken, you won't find it in the lyrics, but I can assure you if you listen to this song, albiet in the movie or the soundtrack, you will hear this line. With all the Disney rumors out there, I'm surprised no one else I know has ever noticed this. People are usually quick to jump on Disney even if something's not true. I say more power to them. They don't have to stay all goody goody. They can throw the word bastard in there as much as they want. I don't care.

Also, I apologize if I spelled Zazu's name incorrectly.

rubah
08-05-2007, 10:19 PM
I thought he said 'young master', which is what this site says, http://www.lionking.org/scripts/Script.txt and what makes a lot more sense :p Zazu could probably say 'young master' in the same tone that he might as well have said 'you bastard' but that's not quite his style :]

The Ceej
08-05-2007, 10:28 PM
Who wrote that script? That's definately not the original script and there could quite possibly be errors in it. I have the soundtrack to the movie and I've gone back and forth over that line repeatedly and I can't imagine it being anything other than, "you bastard."

Another possiblity is that they he says something different in the script so they could sneak that line in and claim it was, "young master," but I can't hear, "young master," when I hear the line. The only thing I can hear is, "you bastard."

Bunny
08-05-2007, 10:53 PM
He says young master.

LunarWeaver
08-05-2007, 11:01 PM
Back then, they wouldn't even put the Disney name on Nightmare Before Christmas because it wasn't rated G, so they stuck a company they owned on it instead. There is no way they'd be poppin' out You Bastard's so plainly in this movie :(.


The missing orgy scene with Snow White and the seven dwarfs I totally buy, though.

Shlup
08-05-2007, 11:08 PM
Of all the Disney film sex-related urban legends, the only true one is The Rescuers one.

Avarice-ness
08-05-2007, 11:10 PM
He says young master.

Agree'd.

*jamming out to lion king soundtrack*

I think it's due to his british accent. But it's totally "young master".

scrumpleberry
08-05-2007, 11:22 PM
Yyyeah, I always heard young master.

Jessweeee♪
08-05-2007, 11:49 PM
JK Cinema is so scary ; ;

Eiko Guy
08-05-2007, 11:51 PM
Ive never focused on it. Someone link a youtube video.

Comet
08-06-2007, 12:09 AM
YouTube - The lion King - I just can't wait to be king (http://youtube.com/watch?v=KXs8OS6EdAE)

Araciel
08-06-2007, 03:57 AM
young master. i think you're hearing what you want to hear.

Marshall Banana
08-06-2007, 04:25 AM
Poor Zazu. Everyone picks on him.

The Ceej
08-06-2007, 05:43 AM
And this must be why no one ever mentioned it before. Because no one ever heard it. I'll listen again, but I've gone back and forth over the line a thousand times trying to hear anything other than, "you bastard." Give me a minute while I do this.

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I just listened to the line about twenty times in a row with my ears trained to hear "young master," each time only hearing, "you bastard." Why is it that everyone is so sure he says, "young master"? I just don't hear it.

Roto13
08-06-2007, 05:47 AM
Maybe if you're the only one who hears a swear it's because you're crazy. Or you've convinced yourself he's saying "bastard."

Lawr
08-06-2007, 05:48 AM
Young Master.
Sounds more like, "Ya pasta"
Nowhere near "you bastard."

The Ceej
08-06-2007, 05:53 AM
Maybe if you're the only one who hears a swear it's because you're crazy. Or you've convinced yourself he's saying "bastard."

I might buy your theory, Roto, if something didn't happen this week. For some time, I've been trying to find someone, anyone who remembered the drink, Josta. For years, I wasn't able to find anyone. I was ready to say Josta was all in my mind. I was ready to say I made it up in my head along with all the stories of my drinking it. But last night, for the first time since Josta disappeared, I found someone who remembered it.

So there. I believe I might go for several years and be just about ready to right this off as my making it up in my head because I want him to say, "you bastard," but then, someone will surely say to me, "Yeah. I heard it too."

Maybe it's not "you bastard." Maybe it's "young master." But it sure as hell sounds to me like, "you bastard" no matter how I listen to it. Even when I try to force myself to hear "young master." And it's just a matter of time before I find someone else who hears it as well.

Odaisé Gaelach
08-06-2007, 05:59 AM
It's definitely young master. There's even the "m" sound. :)

Bunny
08-06-2007, 06:01 AM
You cannot FORCE you subconscious to hear something that it wants to hear. That is why it is called your subconscious, you don't really have any control over it whatsoever. It is sung "young master", I don't understand how you can confuse it. It is extraordinarily clear. Every lyrics site reports it as being sung as such, as well as a multitude of scripts. The Snopes site is a community project and would reflect as such if there were a strong body of evidence supporting your theory.

You're hearing something that isn't there.

rubah
08-06-2007, 06:07 AM
Can we put this on snopes now? :biggrin:

Ceej, I did the same thing with reese's peanut butter cookie cups.

XxSephirothxX
08-06-2007, 06:07 AM
In other news, Manfred Mann totally says douche in Blinded By the Light.

Seriously, though, that's pretty clearly "young master" in the Youtube video.

The Ceej
08-06-2007, 06:15 AM
Ceej, I did the same thing with reese's peanut butter cookie cups.

You did what with those? What I'm doing with I Just Can't Wait To Be King or what I did with Josta? I guess that requires no answer. It's pretty much the same thing. That's why I related them in a previous post.

Roto13
08-06-2007, 07:12 AM
They're not the same thing at all. What you did with Josta was remember something everyone else forgot. What you're doing with this is trying to convince everyone else that we're all hearing it wrong and you're hearing it right.

rubah
08-06-2007, 07:22 AM
I wasn't sure if I imagined that deliciousness or not. I only had my third grade halloween memories to go off of.

Shlup
08-06-2007, 08:17 AM
And Bruce Springsteen really sings "there's a bathroom on the right."

Firo Volondé
08-06-2007, 10:42 AM
Young master, duh. I watched it when I was about six, and I heard 'young master' clear as a bell then, and I still do now. I even did what you're doing, tried to imagine him saying 'bastard', but I couldn't.

MJN SEIFER
08-06-2007, 11:54 AM
This isn't a ledgend, but the first one reminded me of it.

When I was a kid, I though "The Rescuers" (first disney film I saw!) contained the word "Bastard" and I even got into trouble copying it.

One of the characters asks what the other is doing and is told that she is "looking", to which she (apparently) replied "Well look, BASTARD!!"

I watched this recently, I finally figured out she actually says "Well look faster"

blackmage_nuke
08-06-2007, 01:48 PM
Maybe your sound quality sucks. He's saying young master. Ive never heard any accent that says you as yu (as in but)

EDIT: By the way FTW (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xr26J0sExfc)

xXsarahXx
08-06-2007, 01:54 PM
its young master loL!
I can undertand how it could get mixed up though!

Breine
08-06-2007, 01:56 PM
He doesn't sing "young bastard", and if he really was I would just find it funny. There are a lot of worse phrases out there he could have sung to poor little Simba.

DK
08-06-2007, 02:12 PM
The only people who pronounce the word "bastard" 'bar-stad', which is what I assume you are hearing, are Indians speaking English. And Zazu is definitely not using an Indian accent. He clearly says "young master".

Besides, if you wanted to pick something "dirty" about Disney you could have just used the Simba/Nala dirty porno face bit later in the movie, rather than trying to pick on something that isn't actually happening

Bunny
08-06-2007, 02:34 PM
In other news, Manfred Mann totally says douche in Blinded By the Light.

No he does not! >:O

The Ceej
08-06-2007, 06:40 PM
I appreciate the intelligent discussion here. Except from those who are insulting me. There's no need to insult me here. I do have a high quality recording. I own the soundtrack and was listening to my 128kbps MP3 ripped from my soundtrack. Maybe I'm wrong. I've already stated that. But I hear what I hear and there's no need to insult me over it.

I stated I heard him say, "you bastard," but it's really more like, "ya bastard," but it means the same thing. In fact, "ya" is just "you" with an accent. If we're going to type out accents, I might as well say it was, "ya bahstahd."

I understand that I may be wrong, but I just can't concede on this until I hear it the way everyone here is saying it. I tried, and honestly I can't hear it that way. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to mow the lawn even though I'm sick because it's just gotten way too long and I don't want to get fined.

rubah
08-06-2007, 07:11 PM
nala simba luv luv

Seriously. I watched the movie for the first time since I found out how SEX WAS a couple of years ago and it was kinda shocking!

but them rolling and pinning on one another and going on their magical night time date didn't mean a thing to me when I was little, though.

Bunny
08-06-2007, 07:27 PM
Man, I loved Lion King when I was little. So much so that I had the entire script memorized from start to finish. Songs and all.

fallen_angel9000
08-07-2007, 05:17 AM
here's an urban legend thats true:

in the movie Aladdin, when he's trying to talk to Jasmine and the tiger is growling at him, hes talking to the tiger sayin "good kitty, down kitty" and stuff like that. when the scene shows jasmine looking out at him, he whispers "good teenagers, take off your clothes". i listened to it myself. i think its only on the original though.

Odaisé Gaelach
08-07-2007, 05:23 AM
YouTube - aladdin subliminal message (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4piZV5wPrw)

I think he's meant to say, "Take off and go," to the tiger. Sounds really similar to "Take off your clothes"... But...

Nah, I'm still skeptically unconvinced. :)

charliepanayi
08-07-2007, 08:10 AM
I've heard that Aladdin one before. I also like the one about how apparently in one scene of The Lion King, the clouds or stars in the sky spell the word 'sex' XD - no idea how true it is.

The Ceej
08-07-2007, 03:14 PM
My first post in this thread links to Snopes' Disney films site. It will tell you how true these other urban legends of which you speak are. The answer is that Aladdin doesn't say, "take off your clothes," and it's undetermined about, "sex" in the stars. Actually, I've seen "sex" in the stars. It looks like that. The question is, is it intentional. They did clean it up in the special edition, though the theatrical release on the same DVD still has it. There's a video on the Snopes page if you can bother going back to page one and clicking on the link.

Shauna
08-07-2007, 03:31 PM
The sex in the stars was supposed to be "SFX" but they messed it up. xD

And Zazu oh-so-clearly says young master.

Odaisé Gaelach
08-07-2007, 05:54 PM
The question is, is it intentional.

Ahh, here's the million dollar question. Is it intentional?

In the Aladdin case, I don't think so. What they were trying to say was, "Take off and go", and that could easily get confused with "Take off your clothes". The fact that Aladdin is whispering it makes it even more similar.

They probably cleaned it up on the special edition because it sounded so much like it. Was it deliberate in the first place? I don't think so. :)

The Ceej
08-07-2007, 09:55 PM
The question is, is it intentional.

Ahh, here's the million dollar question. Is it intentional?

In the Aladdin case, I don't think so. What they were trying to say was, "Take off and go", and that could easily get confused with "Take off your clothes". The fact that Aladdin is whispering it makes it even more similar.

They probably cleaned it up on the special edition because it sounded so much like it. Was it deliberate in the first place? I don't think so. :)

You completely misinterpreted what I said. The Aladdin thing is 100% false. You didn't see that part of my post. When I said the question was is it intentional, I was referring to "sex" being written in the stars when the dust scatters in The Lion King. I say that because it can clearly be seen in the theatrical release but was cleaned up later in the special edition, but there's no evidence pointing to its intentionality (if that's a word).

For more information, click on "Page 1" and click on the link in my first post.

Odaisé Gaelach
08-07-2007, 10:30 PM
Ah, my bad. Sorry. :)

So... sex in the stars. I don't think it was deliberate. If they wanted to slip it in deliberately, then why did they put it there? Simba is standing on a cliff and flops to the ground. It would've made more sense to put it in when he's with Nala, the lioness.

MJN SEIFER
08-07-2007, 10:33 PM
here's an urban legend thats true:

in the movie Aladdin, when he's trying to talk to Jasmine and the tiger is growling at him, hes talking to the tiger sayin "good kitty, down kitty" and stuff like that. when the scene shows jasmine looking out at him, he whispers "good teenagers, take off your clothes". i listened to it myself. i think its only on the original though.

I've seen talk of this before, and I have heard the line. I dunno what he really says but I hear: "Good kids take of clothes".

I have no idea where everyone else get's "teenagers" from...

LunarWeaver
08-08-2007, 02:44 AM
http://www.animatedbuzz.com/WB/images/minister01.jpg


Lol penis. Except they say it's a knee. A knee that can get you pregnant.




Somebody tried to get me to hear the Alladin thing, but I just never could. I strained my ears until they could strain no more, but it all ended in horrible failure. Let's pink elephant over it :pinkelephant:

The Mog Ninja
08-08-2007, 02:55 AM
Lol Lunar you are so funny!

Marshall Banana
08-08-2007, 04:19 AM
http://www.animatedbuzz.com/WB/images/minister01.jpg


Lol penis. Except they say it's a knee. A knee that can get you pregnant.
That was edited in the new, Platinum Edition DVD. It looks like a knee to me, though. =(

theundeadhero
08-08-2007, 10:22 AM
Well, somebody had to draw all those naked Disney chicks plastered all over the internet.

Vćrn
08-08-2007, 04:43 PM
The sex in the stars was supposed to be "SFX" but they messed it up. xD

And Zazu oh-so-clearly says young master.
Cheap cover-up stories... how do you explain this one (http://www.animatedbuzz.com/WB/images/coverart01.jpg)?

Peegee
08-09-2007, 06:28 PM
I'm reminded of what Aladdin was thought to say when the Tiger was stalking him when he was in Princess Jasmine's room.

Stop hearing what you want to hear :D