problems with safer sephy

[sub zero]

i alwasy get beat by safer sephy i want an easy way to win without having to do something like "Get gold chocobo then blah blah blah" recon you can do that.

ps i use vincent tifa and cloud or vincent nanaki and cloud

[Goldenboko]

If you can get to Safer Sephiroth theres no real got reason you can't beat him considering Bizzaro is harder ;p

Anyway we need to know a bit more about your party. (Levels, materia, that'd be nice)

Here's a few things you'll want (you might have them, I just dun know)

1. Omnislash- If your really having this much trouble a good Omnislash will b very helpful to cut down the time of the battle.
2. Remedies- I don't know if you have armor or acc. that will block Super Nova's status effects, if you don't and you don't want to get them (morphing Tonberry whatever they ares is difficult and annoying), then you'll at least need to be able to get rid of the effects.
3. (Depending on your levels) HP Pluses- I fought this at a low enough level that I needed them to boost a character's HP to 9,999, when it comes down to it, having 9,999 HP will make this battle much easier.
4. Elixers, ethers, etc- My strategy will require MP.

My recommendation for strategy....

I say if your really having this much strategy use the "Better safe the sorry" strategy, which turns the fight into a long drawn out process.
Have one character with the "Fury" status (I recommend Cloud for Omnislash), this will let him get his Limit faster but take more damage (Fury can be obtained by using a Hyper on a character.) Have that character have 9,999 so he can survive the beating he'll take. Have 1 character designated to healing the party, another character on switching between attacking and healing himself if he drops to a point where Super Nova will kill him, and have the last character have 4-Cut, and be hacking his brains out at Seph, and using Limits (again I recommend Cloud Omnislash is nice :thumb:). Whenever he uses Super Nova Remedy the entire party and use a Hyper on your attack. Assuming you have enough Items and you've boosted your HP high enough this'll easily take down Sephiroth although it will take longer then really needed.

[Jessweeee♪]

I've told this story a thousand times, but I think I realize what happened now.

The first time I beat the game, it was really easy fighting him. BUUUUUUT...my brother shut off the playstation before I saw the ending >:[

So, I load up the file again, AND I CAN'T DO IT! IT'S WAY TOO HARD! It's the same file, but it's soooo much harder than the first time!!!! Why???

The only difference was that when I fought Jenova the first time, I got Meteorain (I think that's what it's called >.>).

It makes a big difference, take it from me XD

[Bolivar]

Boko pretty much summed it up. Just try to have one healer who can restore alot of HP to everyone (Cure3-All) so when super nova goes down you can get yourself back up pretty quickly. Also Remedys might take too long so if a character's only big problem is confusion, that might take care of itself. Or it could spell disaster so it's up to you. Limits become what you should really utilize to the fullest but you probably already know that having played him. Remember don't be afraid to use up your elixers, x-potions, turbo ethers, and megalixers as you won't need them. Vincent might not be the best choice since his limit is uncontrollable (anyone know if this is to the end of battle or if it wears off?) and if you're also using Tifa you'll probably want vincent to Heal as Cloud should be your main damage-delaing character.

Unless you really want to beat the game now I would suggest going out and doing all the sidequests (don't gotta go as far as KOTR) becaues it's really worth it. The game's got alot to do and to not would kinda be cheating yourself out of the whole experience.

[Jessweeee♪]

Yeah, KOTR is awesome, but soooooo not worth it >.<

I usually had one character with All-Restore, one with All-Haste, and one with All-Barrier and All-Heal (or whatever it was), and gave at least Cloud a Fury status.

Just Regen, Haste, and Wall the party (also Dispel Sephy, it'll be a lot easier). If you have the Ribbon, give it to the person with Barrier and Heal to make things easier n.n


...annnyway, those are the preparations I had...then I just slashed away n.n


Meteorain or Omnislash are fantastically awesome, btw. Things like 2x-Cut help too.

[sub zero]

my partys about mid sixty level and last time i checked i had about 3 master all's (sold a few) the base fire bolt ice mastered ultima 2 cures 1 mastered barrier (not mastered) a lot of hp plus and 99 megaelixars.

i have done a few side quests like part one of wutai (yuffies hot but dont like her in battle) and a few other bits oh ya i got bahamut zero as well. bizzaro sephys always been a cake walk for me i just cant beat safer sephy.

ps i really cant be arsed getting omnislash but i have chaos most of tifas limits and everything up to finshing touch.

[Goldenboko]

Chaos sucks.

There, I said it.
You lose all control of your character for several turns (it does wear off Bolivar), the exact opposite thing you want in a battle. I beat the game at mid 50s quite easily, half asleep, and at 3AM in the morning, with PuPu yelling in my ear not to fall asleep or I'll die.

Yeah, it shouldn't be that much of a problem xD

I'd recommend you take Tifa, Cloud, and Red.

With 99 Megalixers you can basically just set your healer to constantly use Megalixers, in this case, I'd recommend Red does the healing, Tifa has Fury and uses 2-Cut/4-Cut, and of course bashes limits. Cloud uses Ultima, and if you have it, Meteorain. Do you have HP Pluses? If so give them all to Tifa until you have 9,999HP.

[PuPu]

Sephy also has a set attack pattern. This might help, so here it is:

1. Wall
2. Shadow Flare
3. Physical Attack
4. *Flies/Ascends higher* (This is not an attack, but it uses up one of his turns)
5. Pale Horse
6. Super Nova
7. Break
8. *Descends lower* (Again, it's the same as #4)
9. DeSpell
10. Deen
11. Physical Attack
12. *Ascends Higher* (Same as #4 and #8)
13. Pale Horse
14. Super Nova

After #14, he will repeat 7-14 until he dies.

From GameFAQs: Final Fantasy VII (PS) FAQ/Walkthrough by Arctic (http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/file/197341/16888)

[sub zero]

palehorse wtf does that do? never seen him use it.

and i have enought hp pluses to turn cloud into ruby weapon if not the the hp limit

[Goldenboko]

palehorse wtf does that do? never seen him use it.

and i have enought hp pluses to turn cloud into ruby weapon if not the the hp limit

Don't use them on Cloud first, make sure Tifa gets 9,999 HP and put her on Fury. The strategy I provided should win no sweat.

[PuPu]

Pale Horse causes the character to be afflicted with every bad status in the game. You can prevent the statuses completely if you have the Ribbon accessory.

[sub zero]

ok i think ive seen it now he always targets cloud who happens to have the ribbon on lol so its like grand cross from ff9? and confusion takes the piss i mean nothing that late in the game should need to resort to such low tacktiks.

and yes i know i cant spell and my grammar sucks but there you are live with it.

[Goldenboko]

ok i think ive seen it now he always targets cloud who happens to have the ribbon on lol so its like grand cross from ff9? and confusion takes the piss i mean nothing that late in the game should need to resort to such low tacktiks.

and yes i know i cant spell and my grammar sucks but there you are live with it.

No one has mentioned anything about grammar and spelling, calm the hell down buddy.

Then give Tifa the Ribbon, you want her to be attacked so her Limit gauge will fill anyway.

[sub zero]

its a disclamer that i cant spell and grammar suck (adds to sig) ok so put all hp items and ribbon on tifa and limit his arse got it thanks and if that fails just meteor rain him with cloud right jst leaves ultimicaia on ff8 as the last boos i cant kill list oh well.

[Goldenboko]

Oh and one last thing, if Tifa now has the Ribbon, you should give her Esuna/whatever they call it this game, and pair it with All.


PS- Don't even get me into Ultimecia's ridiculous easiness.

[sub zero]

go on get onto ultimcias easyness then and tell me how to beat her without getting eden cba wiht that onew

[Goldenboko]

go on get onto ultimcias easyness then and tell me how to beat her without getting eden cba wiht that onew

This thread is about Sephiroth, you'd have to make a new one in the FFVIII section for that :tongue:

[Bart's Friend Milhouse]

Stock Barret's Missing Score with a load of Mastered Summon materia equip Master Double Cut and then just keep miming. Use the item duplication trick to get some more Megalixirs. Equip Ribbons to avoid any possible statuses. Super Nova cannot kill you. Atleast not in my experience

[Goldenboko]

Stock Barret's Missing Score with a load of Mastered Summon materia equip Master Double Cut and then just keep miming. Use the item duplication trick to get some more Megalixirs. Equip Ribbons to avoid any possible statuses. Super Nova cannot kill you. Atleast not in my experience

Yes it can. Super Nova is percentage... out of max.

[Twilight Edge]

If you happen to get KOTR, have a character pair it up with Sneak Attack and if you're lucky you might hit Sephy with KOTR before the battle starts. That makes things easier. Then, just hack away with limits. I recommend Omnislash, Catastrophe and Highwind.

--Aegis.

[sub zero]

and the part about not wanting to have to get stuff like omnislash and mimic (and anything else that requres a gold chocobo) went right over your head didnt it.

[TheSpoonyBard]

Yes it can. Super Nova is percentage... out of max.
Super Nova can't kill you. It reduces the target's current HP by 15/16 (93.75%).

[Firo Volondé]

and the part about not wanting to have to get stuff like omnislash and mimic (and anything else that requres a gold chocobo) went right over your head didnt it.

Dude, if you're too lazy to do that stuff then maybe you don't deserve to beat SS. :mad2: Getting a Gold Chocobo isn't exactly hard, it just takes a little bit of time, effort and luck. If you want to beat Sephy easily, you're gonna have to put a few more hours into the game. No pain, no gain. If you really want to be rude, GTFO and find a guide yourself.

[sub zero]

and what would be the point in wasteing 6 or 7 hours trying to get a gold chocbo just to beat the game? they are called side quests for a reason you know? and the reason is you dont need to do them to beat the game.

[Goldenboko]

and what would be the point in wasteing 6 or 7 hours trying to get a gold chocbo just to beat the game? they are called side quests for a reason you know? and the reason is you dont need to do them to beat the game.

This is an awful attitude TE was trying to help, and you shot him down because you're too lazy. Firo pointed that out, and you wanted to go Ape :skull::skull::skull::skull: at him to. Some side quests are always necessary to be done in order for you to be able to beat the toughest enemies. Don't ask us to solve your problems and yell at us if you don't like what we tell you.

[aquatius]

NO THEY ARE NOT! It is definately possible to beat the game without completing any of the sidequests! They're called SIDE quests for a reason! And Firo was the only one being rude!

[Goldenboko]

NO THEY ARE NOT! It is definately possible to beat the game without completing any of the sidequests! They're called SIDE quests for a reason! And Firo was the only one being rude!

Try beating FFVI without doing a few side quests Kefka will crush you, if you can even reach him. If you have problems beating a Final Boss, Side quests are usually your best choice. Firo was just sticking up for Twilight.

[Firo Volondé]

and what would be the point in wasteing 6 or 7 hours trying to get a gold chocbo just to beat the game? they are called side quests for a reason you know? and the reason is you dont need to do them to beat the game.

Then why can't you beat him yourself?


NO THEY ARE NOT! It is definately possible to beat the game without completing any of the sidequests! They're called SIDE quests for a reason! And Firo was the only one being rude!

I agree with you completely. But Sub Zero said Sephy was wiping the floor with him, so maybe doing some sidequests to make his party stronger was the way to go. He was rude and way out of line. Neither Twilight Edge nor anybody else on this forum is obligated to help him, but they did out of the goodness of their hearts and got rudely dismissed without a word of thanks. And I'm not being rude. All I'm doing is giving him a stern talking-to that he is clearly in dire need of. :mad2:

[demondude]

Gotta go with Firo here.

The thing is if you don't want to do the sidequests then you're obviously not enjoying the game so theres not much point.

And you might not need to do sidequests yeah but leveling you're characters is necessery and there is plenty of good leveling spots. :)

[sub zero]

im happy to go leveling but tell me has anyone EVER leveled up on the chocbo side quest other than by shear dumb luck. mastering materia i dont mind but doing something that costs a lot take ages and give you something that might beat a boss well no real point (i have beaten kefka on ff6 without sidequests.)

[PuPu]

(i have beaten kefka on ff6 without sidequests.)
Getting all of your characters back in the WoR technically IS a sidequest. Otherwise you would only have Celes, Sabin, Edgar, and Setzer for a party.

[Goldenboko]

im happy to go leveling but tell me has anyone EVER leveled up on the chocbo side quest other than by shear dumb luck. mastering materia i dont mind but doing something that costs a lot take ages and give you something that might beat a boss well no real point (i have beaten kefka on ff6 without sidequests.)

Oh? So you're saying that you beat him with Celes, Edgar, Sabin, and Setzer?

Um, no, Chocobo Side quest isn't just "dumb luck" there is a very special way to get the Gold Chocobo, and if you try hard enough, you can have it to 1-2 nights.

[demondude]

Just train in the area before you face sephiroth. :p

It'd be easier if you told us you're levels and besides mastering you're materia takes a while as well you know. ;)

[edczxcvbnm]

You are at a high enough level...far higher than I was.

Now for the battle preparations.

I like to use the Back Row for battles. You do less damage but so does the boss and you can grind it out easier. It will just take a bit longer.

FURY! I can not stress this point enough. Be in Fury and use hypers to get into fury. Your limit meter goes up twice as fast and depending on your limit level it will help very much so.

Fuck Vincent. He has the :skull::skull::skull::skull:tiest limit break ever. Fuck him in the ass if you can. I tend to use Cid, Cloud and Cait Sith(I like the randomness of his limit break).

If you don't have Cloud's Level 3 limit set it to level one and do Cross Slash. Not only does it have the effect to put enemies in stun and stop for a turn or two but you will also be getting it left and right.

Ribbons...you should have 2. Equip them or be fucked.

Everyone should have cure materia and should be using it all the time.

I hope this helps. This is more of a risk free strategy. I just wail on him until he dies most of the time. Hell if you can grind it out long enough Sephiroth will actually run out of MP :D I have done in before due to royally fucking up and not equipping ribbons. That was such an epic battle of barely making it out alive. 8 or 9 super novas and a bajillion spells later and he runs out of MP and thus most of his turns are wasted due to not having any MP XD

[sub zero]

i made monsters run out of mp but didnt think bosses could (they never lasted long enought or i never lasted long enought) and when i said dumb luck about the chocho thing i was talking about the chance of leveling up while doing it as being unlikly.

[Goldenboko]

i made monsters run out of mp but didnt think bosses could (they never lasted long enought or i never lasted long enought) and when i said dumb luck about the chocho thing i was talking about the chance of leveling up while doing it as being unlikly.

With KoTR you don't need levels. I beat the WEAPONs with only Cloud at Level 55 because I had KoTR, HP Absorb, mime and a ribbon :O