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Peter_20
09-16-2007, 04:37 PM
Whenever I listen to native Britains or Americans talking, they always use the soft, vowelic r-sounds, the ones that don't require rapid tongue movements; it kinda sounds like a very soft "ur", but the trilled sound makes the tongue vibrate very quickly.
Do you actually use that sound?

escobert
09-16-2007, 04:46 PM
No, not really ever. unless I'm in French class :p

Sergeant Hartman
09-16-2007, 04:48 PM
Round the rugged rock the rugged rascal ran!

Peter_20
09-16-2007, 04:51 PM
Round the rugged rock the rugged rascal ran!Now try pronouncing that thing with "purring" r-sounds, not with the typical English pronounciation.
It sounds like a French r, but it's produced only with the tip of the tongue.

Jess
09-16-2007, 04:52 PM
I don't really use that noise at all. :jess:

Sergeant Hartman
09-16-2007, 04:54 PM
Round the rugged rock the rugged rascal ran!Now try pronouncing that thing with "purring" r-sounds.
That's the way I always say it like :hat:

rrrroll the arrrr!

Peter_20
09-16-2007, 04:55 PM
Round the rugged rock the rugged rascal ran!Now try pronouncing that thing with "purring" r-sounds.
That's the way I always say it like :hat:

rrrroll the arrrr!Yeah, the tongue is supposed to vibrate. :D

The closest an American voice has come to this would be Maechen from FF10, when he says "Lady Yuna's guardians, I presume" - he almost pronounces "presume" with a trilled r.

Shauna
09-16-2007, 05:05 PM
The English can't roll their r's usually. That's why they don't use that!

I don't roll my r's, really, but I can when it's needed. I also seem to put on a heavy Scottish accent when I do. xD

Resha
09-16-2007, 05:09 PM
No, not really ever. unless I'm in French class :p
When speaking French, yeah! And even then it's not a rolled R. It's more of a snarl from the bottom of my throat.

Iceglow
09-16-2007, 05:50 PM
You guys haven't heard me trying to pronounce Polish it's hilariously funny, my girlfriend merely smiles at me and tells me I'm hopeless. Polish has a lot of rolling sounds but I can sit here purring and do that fine.

Vivisteiner
09-16-2007, 05:53 PM
I always roll my r's.

Im quite famous for it actually.

Jessweeee♪
09-16-2007, 05:56 PM
I can't roll my r's...I can never get a perfect 100 when reciting the alphabet in Spanish because I can't get that RR XD

Madame Adequate
09-16-2007, 07:20 PM
I can roll my r's, but I only tend to do it when making some grand statement.

White_Dove15445
09-16-2007, 08:15 PM
I am not english but I don't roll my r's unless it is needed. I love the sound of unrolled r's it makes me feel very english-like. xD

Rengori
09-16-2007, 08:42 PM
Only in Spanish class.

Breine
09-16-2007, 09:20 PM
The Germanic languages don't use that kind of R. The Romance languages do, though.

Quindiana Jones
09-16-2007, 10:36 PM
I use it on girls. If ya know what I mean. :jokey:

fire_of_avalon
09-16-2007, 11:10 PM
The Germanic languages don't use that kind of R. The Romance languages do, though.

Yes.

I can't do it. It makes me angry. :mad2:

Rebel40000
09-16-2007, 11:34 PM
No matter how hard I try, I cannot roll my r's. :cry:

ReloadPsi
09-16-2007, 11:36 PM
Very, very rarely, usually just for comic effect. When I do, it tends to put an awkward pause in my words as I try to return to a standard vowelly "R" sound.

Dr. Robotnik in Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog used to do it a lot; his voice actor was british: "For Grrrrounder's sake, that better have been a wrrrrong number!"

By the way, for those who can't figure out how to do it, you're supposed to bring the sound from your throat, not your tongue or your lips.

Værn
09-17-2007, 03:37 AM
I can't roll my R's. If I could, I would all the time. Every time an R came up in a conversation.

Jimsour
09-17-2007, 08:16 AM
I have a northern irish accent, so yes.

Luara
09-17-2007, 01:00 PM
.................... *No coments* .. . . .. . . . .

sometimes yes, sometimes no . . . . . *couldnt help it*

Peegee
09-17-2007, 08:38 PM
I'm staring blankly at this thread. What do you mean? Can somebody give an example using either an English word or a French word?

Værn
09-17-2007, 09:44 PM
I'm staring blankly at this thread. What do you mean? Can somebody give an example using either an English word or a French word?
We're talking about rolling R's. I don't have any English or French examples, but if you watch this video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=-wBH6HXidO4) until it gets to the part where he says:

"Reise, Reise Seemann Reise
Und die Wellen weinen leise
In ihrem Blute steckt ein Speer
Bluten leise in das Meer"

I think the end of that verse is a nice example of a trill, don't you?
Rammstein have been accused of being Nazis and imitating Hitler's speech patterns because Till rolls his R's in a similar way, but they say it's just natural to trill like that with a voice like his.

Peegee
09-17-2007, 10:32 PM
I don't is able to watch videos at work, but if I understand those words correctly we don't usually trill our 'r's'. However, I think Scottish people might do it because of the accent? If that is the case, maybe there's an english accent that does it. Nothing I can come up with.

"Rrrroll up the Rrrim to win" comes to mind, and that reminds me of Scottish accents.

TheSpoonyBard
09-17-2007, 10:41 PM
I can't roll my Rs. It's a physical impossibility.

scrumpleberry
09-17-2007, 11:14 PM
I can't. :(

Shauna
09-17-2007, 11:21 PM
I don't is able to watch videos at work, but if I understand those words correctly we don't usually trill our 'r's'. However, I think Scottish people might do it because of the accent? If that is the case, maybe there's an english accent that does it. Nothing I can come up with.

"Rrrroll up the Rrrim to win" comes to mind, and that reminds me of Scottish accents.

I think a lot of people in Scotland can roll their r's - well, a lot of people I know can roll their r's. But... it's probably the same as everywhere - some people can and some people can't. :D

Araciel
09-18-2007, 10:11 AM
i'm an epic tongue roller when i'm drunk.

persephonehermione
09-18-2007, 10:14 AM
Most don't say it in English, but opera singers are encouraged to use it to increase diction.

Persephone Hermione x

Randgris
09-18-2007, 10:55 AM
A former classmate of mine often rolls his r. He sounds Russian.

Rrrrrrr... :D

P.S. He's not even American in nature

Loony BoB
09-18-2007, 02:25 PM
In New Zealand, you're taught to roll your r's at school when you learn how to speak Maori words.

Peegee
09-18-2007, 02:32 PM
I don't is able to watch videos at work, but if I understand those words correctly we don't usually trill our 'r's'. However, I think Scottish people might do it because of the accent? If that is the case, maybe there's an english accent that does it. Nothing I can come up with.

"Rrrroll up the Rrrim to win" comes to mind, and that reminds me of Scottish accents.

I think a lot of people in Scotland can roll their r's - well, a lot of people I know can roll their r's. But... it's probably the same as everywhere - some people can and some people can't. :D

Yes, but we don't usually do it. I'm still trying to think of words that might require it.

Shauna
09-18-2007, 04:28 PM
I don't usually do it either. I have never found a situation where rolling my r is ever necessary.

But, with speaking Spanish, the rolling r sound is used a lot.

Shoeberto
09-18-2007, 04:36 PM
I was never able to roll my Rs in Spanish. It was kinda depressing. But I also hated that class so...

rubah
09-18-2007, 04:42 PM
I can kinda fake it!

Tallulah
09-18-2007, 05:42 PM
It comes easy to me because I'm half-Scottish, (therefore my dad does) but I never do it because I'm other half English! :p

I Don't Need A Name
09-18-2007, 05:45 PM
The English can't roll their r's usually. That's why they don't use that!

i can roll my Rs quite well thank you, and do so frequently

Paul
09-18-2007, 08:41 PM
scousers (ie natives of liverpool) have their own unique english accent and they (or we) roll their (our) Rs

arright???

Shauna
09-18-2007, 09:07 PM
The English can't roll their r's usually. That's why they don't use that!

i can roll my Rs quite well thank you, and do so frequently

Hence why I said usually. ;)

Nominus Experse
09-19-2007, 09:22 AM
I cannot roll my "r" very well, though, with a language where such a thing is not needed, I see little point in becoming woeful over my inability to perform a rolled "r" sound.

And then I think about how I wish I could learn other languages, such as French and Italian, and my inability to roll "r" is suddenly very much an issue.


Dammit...

theundeadhero
09-19-2007, 09:55 AM
My tongue is incapable of such nonsense.