New Street Fighter info coming 12/06

[JKTrix]

The other thread (http://forums.eyesonff.com/general-gaming-discussion/110702-street-fighter-4-a.html) is a little too old to bump.

Word has it (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8208&Itemid=9) that Capcom is going to be releasing info on the game on 'Thursday'. And that's it.

Whether or not that means 'Thursday' in Japan, that just might mean 'tonight' for us. I'm lookin' forward to it.

[The Amazing Spiderman]

What I'm interested to know is the character roster, and how many characters are in the game, maybe 24-30?.
I'd love to see many comebacks, specially Cammy. :D

[Dreddz]

Hopefully they will tell us whether it is 2D or 3D. And what console/s it will be on. Thats the only infomation im asking for, the rest they can keep to themselves.

[The Amazing Spiderman]

I think they'll first release it on arcades.

And, I hope it'll released on the PS3 later.

I heard somewhere that the graphics will be like the Okami game. What do you think?

[Necronopticous]

What I'm interested to know is the character roster, and how many characters are in the game, maybe 24-30?.
I'd love to see many comebacks, specially Cammy. :DI'm pretty sure it's going to be a brand new cast, as it always has been for each numerical increment in the series. Of course they'll probably keep the typical carry-overs, Ken, Ryu, Chun-Li, Akuma, etc. I'm actually hoping for a smaller cast this time, I'd like to see them take more time balancing a smaller cast than adding a bunch of new characters into the mix.
Hopefully they will tell us whether it is 2D or 3D. And what console/s it will be on. Thats the only infomation im asking for, the rest they can keep to themselves.If it's 3D I'll cry.
I think they'll first release it on arcades.

And, I hope it'll released on the PS3 later.

I heard somewhere that the graphics will be like the Okami game. What do you think?Arcade is all that matters. The "teaser trailer" for the game featured a short brawl between Ken & Ryu that was done in 3D watercolor-looking art, very much like Okami. However, I highly doubt that it was meant to reflect the actual look or feel of the game, and tend to think it was more focused on letting people know that Street Fighter 4 was definitely coming.

Anyway, I certainly wouldn't be opposed to a weird or traditional watercolor art style, but 3D would totally kill it for me.

[XxSephirothxX]

Arcade isn't all that matters to me, since I'd like to actually get to play the game. :p But if their past actions are any indication, it'll probably be on every console for the next 5 years. I hope it's not 3D, but I think Capcom could still make a good game out of a 3D fighter. It wouldn't feel very Street Fighter, though, and I doubt they'll do that.

[Kanshisha]

If they out it on the wii... i WILL be surprised and be laughing all at the same time, you could just imagine little kids owning each other with special moves. We've got ourselves a little ken and ryu!

[Roto13]

Arcade versions of fighters are important because they allow the developers to examine the strengths and weaknesses of each character as played by those crazy people who do nothing but play arcade fighters, and then use that information to rebalance the characters so it's less likely that one or two characters have a giant advantage over everyone else.

[Necronopticous]

They're also important because they're really the only way that fighting games should be played.

[Roto13]

Unless, you know, you don't like pissing away money on every single match you ever play.

A Wii version would probably work if it was designed around the classic controller and was 2D. :P

[XxSephirothxX]

Well of course it's important. But I'd choose playing Street Fighter 4 on my Xbox 360 over never getting to play it, which is probably what would happen if it was arcade-only. Besides, as consoles have progressed, I think if Capcom could put some work into it they could develop a perfectly good port of an arcade version. Then there's just the matter of shelling out for an arcade stick if you think they must be played that way.

[Necronopticous]

It's not just about the control scheme, it's about the environment and competition. It's about playing an arcade game in an arcade. It's sort of a social thing, but ultimately a distinct type of enjoyment that is certainly not attainable by playing games at home, by yourself or exclusively with friends.

It isn't that I'm opposed to home versions, but I don't really have any interest in them aside from practice. If you haven't played your favorite fighting games competitively at the arcade, you're really missing out on something special.

Arcades get no love these days.

[XxSephirothxX]

Yeah, that's the problem. Arcades are awesome, but they're a dying (or practically dead in the US, it seems) breed. If I could saunter downtown into a poorly-lit, seedy arcade of cacophonous noises and flashing game machines, I'd be all over that. They're just damn hard to find, and that makes the experience rare. You're lucky to have access to a good one. :(

[The Amazing Spiderman]

Well, at least there are some places with arcade games at my city.
Maybe it'll be a hit the game at the arcade gets crowded. But unfornately, most of the fighting games are King of the Fighters...and few Marvel Vs Capcom 1 & 2 at some places.

And, hey, I do want brand new characters also, but if there's a possibility to add old, yet classic ones, I'll be pretty happy!

And let's hope it has an awesome soundtrack, too. :D

[Roto13]

I could be at an arcade in fifteen minutes by foot if I left now. :p And another one in a half an hour.

[XxSephirothxX]

http://sparelimited.com/media.jpg

Ho-lee :skull::skull::skull::skull:.

[Roto13]

Does he have an erection?

[JKTrix]

Don't we all?


Though the screenshot doesn't answer this question outright, we can confirm that the game's graphics are polygonal but the gameplay is strictly 2D. There will be new moves, locations, and gameplay features, while the standard six button control scheme remains. Ryu and Ken return along with Chun-Li and Dhalsim, but beyond that the character roster is a mystery. And then there's the issue of what platform(s) the game will end up on, which at this point Capcom is keeping close to its chest (if you search 1UP's database, you'll find listings for arcade, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 versions, but those are just guesses based on the graphical quality).

[Dreddz]

The graphics look ok, im not really floored by the art style though. In some respects im disappointed by it. Its the gameplay that matters I guess. Hopefully it will retain the fluid animations from Street Fighter 3, but im not holding my breath.

[Raebus]

Lets just give this game a chance, without judging it far too early.

[Roto13]

Hopefully it will retain the fluid animations from Street Fighter 3, but im not holding my breath.

It should, being 3D and all.

[ReloadPsi]

Man, isn't Ryu ever gonna get more, I dunno, interesting? He's one of the most unoriginal main heroes ever.

This will be awesome; it's nice the Street Fighters in their own game again. It'd be nice if they did a complete roster with every single character from the previous games like MK Armageddon, only this time without just borrowing other characters' secondary movesets for them.

[Necronopticous]

This "screenshot" is totally underwhelming for me, but I suppose it's too early to pass any judgements.

I'll just continue waiting.

[SuperMillionaire]

What I'm interested to know is the character roster, and how many characters are in the game, maybe 24-30?.
I'd love to see many comebacks, specially Cammy. :DI'm pretty sure it's going to be a brand new cast, as it always has been for each numerical increment in the series. Of course they'll probably keep the typical carry-overs, Ken, Ryu, Chun-Li, Akuma, etc. I'm actually hoping for a smaller cast this time, I'd like to see them take more time balancing a smaller cast than adding a bunch of new characters into the mix.
Hopefully they will tell us whether it is 2D or 3D. And what console/s it will be on. Thats the only infomation im asking for, the rest they can keep to themselves.If it's 3D I'll cry.
I think they'll first release it on arcades.

And, I hope it'll released on the PS3 later.

I heard somewhere that the graphics will be like the Okami game. What do you think?Arcade is all that matters. The "teaser trailer" for the game featured a short brawl between Ken & Ryu that was done in 3D watercolor-looking art, very much like Okami. However, I highly doubt that it was meant to reflect the actual look or feel of the game, and tend to think it was more focused on letting people know that Street Fighter 4 was definitely coming.

Anyway, I certainly wouldn't be opposed to a weird or traditional watercolor art style, but 3D would totally kill it for me.

What about 2.5D? The game will feature 2D action with 3D backgrounds, similar to Marvel vs Capcom 2.

[NeoCracker]

While I do like my 3D fighters, I am happy this one is 2D strangely. Makes for a different experience.

Last Street fighter I enjoyed was Alpha 2. That one kicked ass. LEts just hope this one will be good.

[Roto13]

3D and 2D fighters are definitely very different. Two different subgenres in the same genre that give two very different feels when you play them. I don't even like to compare them.

[Madame Adequate]

Dhalsim? Who cares about Dhalsim?! If they're bringing folks back then they clearly need Guile, E. Honda, and Sagat the most.

[KentaRawr!]

What about Blanka? He was fun to use.

[Markus. D]

It's not just about the control scheme, it's about the environment and competition. It's about playing an arcade game in an arcade. It's sort of a social thing, but ultimately a distinct type of enjoyment that is certainly not attainable by playing games at home, by yourself or exclusively with friends.

It isn't that I'm opposed to home versions, but I don't really have any interest in them aside from practice. If you haven't played your favorite fighting games competitively at the arcade, you're really missing out on something special.

Arcades get no love these days.

Specially in Australia.

I remember when hordes of people use to gather around the Tekken Machine/DDR Machine(s) and watch xD... Now it's reallllll dead, at least on the Gold Coast.

[Necronopticous]

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k271/strider1977/24416-550x-sf4leaked2.jpg

Well, there's always 3rd Strike.

[CimminyCricket]

Ken looks dumb.

[NeoCracker]

Dhalsim? Who cares about Dhalsim?! If they're bringing folks back then they clearly need Guile, E. Honda, and Sagat the most.

I like Dhalsim. :(

And I want me a little Vega action.

[ReloadPsi]

So it's definitely 2D motion in 3D graphics then. Excellent, I've been wanting to play more games like that. Now if Nintendo would make a few more Mario games in the same way and not release them on portable consoles.

[Dreddz]

That second screenshot looks a little rough. Theres another one which doesnt look any more promising. Still need to see some video though. This game can still be awesome.

I think Capcom should do something completely crazy again and include a brand new roaster of characters like what they did with 3rd Strike. Adding a couple of classic characters like Ryu, Guile, Sagat and Chun Li. Hell, they can go nuts and add some of the 3rd Strike characters if they wanted. I actually liked a few of them.

[KentaRawr!]

We either need a video or a description of the engine. All these photos tell us really is that we've got Polygons and the Character's eyes follow the camera when spinning rapidly in the air. (Ken)

I do so wonder if we'll get some characters that were specific to EX.

[Necronopticous]

http://www.JEREMYTIME/upload/ken01.jpg http://www.JEREMYTIME/upload/ken02.jpg

[Creeping Shadow]

wow the ken we never knew...

[SuperMillionaire]

Looks like Violent Ken to me.

[Polnareff]

Confirmed details:

-Parries are gone
-Will take place before SF3 and after SSF2T (before you complain, remember, DMC's timeline is 3-1-4-2, so this is nothing new)
-Ryu, Ken, Chun-Li, and Dhalsim are confirmed as returning
-Game is literally only 2% done
-The game will keep the traditional SF gameplay (no sidestepping for example)
-In favor of parries being removed, Ultra Combos have been added (long autocombos ala SNK's ranbu moves) and the Revenge meter/system, which is something separate from the usual Super bar (which is still there) that allows you to do cancel combos and EX moves.

I would link to the leaked EGM scans but I don't think it's allowed so I'm not risking getting banned over it.

Just know that the screen with Ken doing the Tatsumaki Senpukyaku is a picture from the very early build of the game, and that the new screenshots in the EGM spread look much, much better.

[DK]

God damn I hope they make Ken look less retarded. How could they abuse him so. :(

[SuperMillionaire]

Wow, I like the idea of a separate energy meter for extra damage!

[Captain Maxx Power]

If conclusions were a mountain you guys could jump to the top with one leap.

[Dreddz]

I would link to the leaked EGM scans but I don't think it's allowed so I'm not risking getting banned over it.

Oh boohoo.

http://www.imagepup.com/up/7yay_1197413815_sf4egm1.jpg
http://www.imagepup.com/up/Qecc_1197413731_sf4egm2.jpg
http://www.imagepup.com/up/YVhL_1197413772_sf4egm3.jpg
http://www.imagepup.com/up/QORz_1197413898_sf4egm4.jpg
http://www.imagepup.com/up/3YLH_1197413942_sf4egm5.jpg
http://www.imagepup.com/up/vaNp_1197413991_sf4egm6.jpg
http://www.imagepup.com/up/YD18_1197414030_sf4egm7.jpg
http://www.imagepup.com/up/R3KD_1197415792_sf4egm8.jpg
http://www.imagepup.com/up/1Xc0_1197415846_sf4egm9.jpg
http://www.imagepup.com/up/4nF2_1197414061_sf4egm10.jpg

Some of the images look alot more promising.

[NeoCracker]

I would link to the leaked EGM scans but I don't think it's allowed so I'm not risking getting banned over it.

Oh boohoo.

http://www.imagepup.com/up/7yay_1197413815_sf4egm1.jpg
http://www.imagepup.com/up/Qecc_1197413731_sf4egm2.jpg
http://www.imagepup.com/up/YVhL_1197413772_sf4egm3.jpg
http://www.imagepup.com/up/QORz_1197413898_sf4egm4.jpg
http://www.imagepup.com/up/3YLH_1197413942_sf4egm5.jpg
http://www.imagepup.com/up/vaNp_1197413991_sf4egm6.jpg
http://www.imagepup.com/up/YD18_1197414030_sf4egm7.jpg
http://www.imagepup.com/up/R3KD_1197415792_sf4egm8.jpg
http://www.imagepup.com/up/1Xc0_1197415846_sf4egm9.jpg
http://www.imagepup.com/up/4nF2_1197414061_sf4egm10.jpg
http://www.imagepup.com/up/WOEh_1197415883_sf4egm1

Some of the images looks alot more promising.

No they don't.

Though the Pink Haired chick in one of those links is hot.

[Breine]

I'm not entirely sure if Street Fighter going 3D is a good thing, I mean.. it did once before and the result wasn't exactly great. Anyway, at least the gameplay will still be in 2D so let's hope it'll work. I somehow doubt it, though..

[Roto13]

Though the Pink Haired chick in one of those links is hot.

That's a dude. >_>

[XxSephirothxX]

Just got my issue today, and I agree that it looks a lot better in most of those screens. I'm sure people will disagree, of course. Really would like to see it in motion.

[Polnareff]

Oh boohoo.

That was a very unnecessary comment, if you were aiming it at me. I can't really tell. If it is aimed at me, then I didn't know you could post scans here (every other forum I go to has strict rules against them), so my bad.


I'm not entirely sure if Street Fighter going 3D is a good thing, I mean.. it did once before and the result wasn't exactly great. Anyway, at least the gameplay will still be in 2D so let's hope it'll work. I somehow doubt it, though..

Capcom didn't make the EX series, which is what you're talking about, so they've technically never done a 3D SF before (there was Capcom Fighting All-Stars but that didn't get released due to bad feedback).

As for "2D gameplay in 3D," Capcom's pretty good at it, IMO. The Rival Schools series speaks for itself.

Frankly, I don't see the complaints about the graphics, either. Outside of maybe two screenshots, it's one of the best-looking fighting games I've seen in a while, and it's not even 5% done yet! :D

[NeoCracker]

Though the Pink Haired chick in one of those links is hot.

That's a dude. >_>

http://www.imagepup.com/up/YD18_1197414030_sf4egm7.jpg

How is that a dude? I see cleavage.

Okay, I just read the description.

Thats one hot dude.

[Roto13]

Read the text in the blue box coming out of his ass.

EDIT: Stupid edits. >_<

[KentaRawr!]

Oh.

So Hugo is gay? o.o

[Captain Maxx Power]

Oh.

So Hugo is gay? o.o

He's just very confused.

[Dreddz]

Poison groaned like a man in Final Fight if I remember. Ewww


That was a very unnecessary comment, if you were aiming it at me. I can't really tell. If it is aimed at me, then I didn't know you could post scans here (every other forum I go to has strict rules against them), so my bad.
Dont take the internet so seriously. Geez...

As for "2D gameplay in 3D," Capcom's pretty good at it, IMO. The Rival Schools series speaks for itself.
Exactly.

[Breine]

I'm not entirely sure if Street Fighter going 3D is a good thing, I mean.. it did once before and the result wasn't exactly great. Anyway, at least the gameplay will still be in 2D so let's hope it'll work. I somehow doubt it, though..

Capcom didn't make the EX series, which is what you're talking about, so they've technically never done a 3D SF before (there was Capcom Fighting All-Stars but that didn't get released due to bad feedback).

As for "2D gameplay in 3D," Capcom's pretty good at it, IMO. The Rival Schools series speaks for itself.

Frankly, I don't see the complaints about the graphics, either. Outside of maybe two screenshots, it's one of the best-looking fighting games I've seen in a while, and it's not even 5% done yet! :D

Yeah, you're probably right. I have never played "Rival Schools", but I do know that it was a good game. Still, I can't help but feeling a bit ambivalent about this.. I mean, I guess it's time for them to make a Street Fighter game in 3D, but then on the other hand Street Fighter and 2D graphics just go together. As long as it won't have side-stepping I guess it'll be allright, though?

[Roto13]

I'm gonna miss those sexy sprites, though. :/

[Dreddz]

Gameplay clip. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=udl8KCiLA-8&feature=related)

Not as nice as I would of liked but its still early days I suppose.

[Kanshisha]

Lol Neo! you found a transsexual crossdresser cute? ahahahahaa!

Anyway, anough about that.. here's a link that will prob answer some questions, look around the site, you might even find some extra info.

Street Fighter IV Blowout from 1UP.com (http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3164488)

[KentaRawr!]

Hmm... The Graphics don't leave as much of an impression as I had expected, but oh well. Maybe they'll alter the system to look more unique as time goes on. As for how the mechanics look, it doesn't look like it's going to differ from most 2D Fighters in many ways, sans the fact that it's 3D. I'll have to play the game myself to pass a good, well-thought out opinion, but the impressions I'm getting from the game are less than stellar.

[JKTrix]

Street Fighter IV New Scans | GEMAGA.COM (http://www.gemaga.com/2008/01/09/street-fighter-iv-new-scans)

New character: Crimson Viper. Kind of looks more like SNK than Capcom though.

[Maxico]

"Oh man, they're making street fighter 4? That should be pret-
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8360/217f07a6c63dfb5059a66d5ba8.jpg


Oh ok. Nevermind."

[Roto13]

DO YOU SMELL WHAT THE RYU IS COOKIN'!?!?!

Keep in mind that they characters will probably look less fugly from afar. :P

[Maxico]

His eyes are pointing in different directions!

So, Apparently Capcom can't afford to hire people who know how to draw.

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2862/51258753fh7.jpg

OH GOD I CAN'T STOP STARING AT HIS KNECK, it looks like someones highschool doodles.

Also what they've shown of SF2:HD is horribly drawn too. What the hell is up with Capcom? Did they lose all their competent artists or something?

[SuperMillionaire]

I like the 2.5D effects. I can't wait to get it.

[JKTrix]

Oh how I wish I was in Japan right now.

AOU 2008: Street Fighter IV Footage news from 1UP.com (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3166294)

Drool...

I was a little disappointed that the Chun-Li vs Viper one wasn't an in-game fight, but the cutscene itself is pretty cool and looks really good.

[Roogle]

I have seen some continuous gameplay footage of various matchups. I think that the Capcom development team working on this has really gotten the right idea and that this game will be received relatively well for all its throwbacks to the original Street Fighter II.

[KentaRawr!]

I don't like how slow it seems to have gotten, but I'll wait until I actually play it to judge, I guess.

[Breine]

Found a clip that presents the characters:

Gametrailers.com - Street Fighter IV - AOU 2008 Amusement Expo Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30989.html)

[Necronopticous]

Uhh...

[SuperMillionaire]

Wow, what was that move that Chun-Li did to Crimson Viper after she did the lightning kick super on her?

[Creeping Shadow]

Wow sadly the art reminds me of the art from the old american cartoon...Oh boy.

[Shoeberto]

I think it looks cool.

The new chick totally looks like a Travis Touchdown ripoff, though.

[Necronopticous]

http://www.JEREMYTIME/upload/sf4select.jpg

[NeoCracker]

Okay, that gamplay look makes up for the character designs we've seen thus far.

[SuperMillionaire]

Facial reaction to hard blows...

[Maxico]

http://www.JEREMYTIME/upload/sf4select.jpg

The Ryu one is even better in context.

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/719/ryuamazedbyladyparts1ie1.jpg

There's something distinctly off with everything.

[Avarice-ness]

His eyes are pointing in different directions!

So, Apparently Capcom can't afford to hire people who know how to draw.

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2862/51258753fh7.jpg

OH GOD I CAN'T STOP STARING AT HIS KNECK, it looks like someones highschool doodles.

Also what they've shown of SF2:HD is horribly drawn too. What the hell is up with Capcom? Did they lose all their competent artists or something?

If those are seriously concept sketches, you'd atleast thing they'd crop the scanner-ness out.

Either way, UdonCrew on deviantART (http://udoncrew.deviantart.com/) works for Capcom and they're epic. Street Fighter art like every other day. :heart:

[SuperMillionaire]

http://www.JEREMYTIME/upload/sf4select.jpg

The Ryu one is even better in context.

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/719/ryuamazedbyladyparts1ie1.jpg

There's something distinctly off with everything.

Wow. That screenshot looks great!