Mafia - Monumental Breakdown in Staff Protocol Edition

[Roto13]

EDIT: Why thank you. xD

I wouldn't mind co-hosting a game. :P I have nothing to do for a while.

[I Took the Red Pill]

I can safely say that being Mafia was moar fun than being Town, even being the Cop. We would've swept the floor with you if Psy wasn't there, but the fact that he was made it way moar fun.

[Miriel]

I wouldn't mind sharing with qwerty if he's up to that, otherwise I can go solo and he can have the one after that.

EDIT: Dunno though. My ideas on mafia roles may be a little...extreme. ;) So if you want a very standard game, qwert, go solo.

Don't worry folks, there wouldn't be any stupid roles!

Oh yeah, the next game we host probably won't be your vanilla mafia set up. :p This 2nd game wasn't supposed to be normal but the first one got all crapped up and we wanted at least one normal game before moving on to more... interesting set ups.

[Jojee]

I'm probably not going to play mafia for at least a while too. xD If you want any more ideas for running it, I'd be willing to give ideas. I don't really wanna host though, making sure I have to be here at 24 hour intervals or whatever seems like a pain in the arse.

[edczxcvbnm]

I wouldn't mind sharing with qwerty if he's up to that, otherwise I can go solo and he can have the one after that.

EDIT: Dunno though. My ideas on mafia roles may be a little...extreme. ;) So if you want a very standard game, qwert, go solo.

Don't worry folks, there wouldn't be any stupid roles!

The more roles the better :D

[qwertysaur]

I wouldn't mind sharing with qwerty if he's up to that, otherwise I can go solo and he can have the one after that.

EDIT: Dunno though. My ideas on mafia roles may be a little...extreme. ;) So if you want a very standard game, qwert, go solo.

Don't worry folks, there wouldn't be any stupid roles!

I think I have some extreme ideas as well, so I'd be willing to share with you. I want a crazy game. :D

[NeoCracker]

Neo, you had suspicions for EVERYONE. If you look through the forum in the earlier stages, you'll see how many times I'm cursing you out. xD Your logic SUCKED. It's okay, I still <3 you.


Early on yes, but by the time the second day was over, I'd gotten rid of a lot of my suspicions and narrowed them down.

I'd focused in on a few more specific people after that point, and tried drawing out the people who didn't post much. :p

Its just at that point is when I didn't pick the write people to go at.

Well, except obviously Hsu, but I didn't do that one as well as I could have.

So HAH!

[Clouded Sky]

Told you all I wasn't lying when I said I was just a poor player. Though that wasn't the best way to go about anything. I am glad I lasted so long, because I really think I was getting the hang of it, and I'm excited for another. I did think the town was screwed when they lynched Yams. I thought it was fairly obvious he was the naive cop after the way I went down. In any case, woooo town!

[Sergeant Hartman]

It was all down to my skills Roto and you know it ;)

[demondude]

I still technically won!

And I wanna host a mafia game! it'll have 9 Jesters,1 mafia and no citizens.
Hilarity ensues.

[edczxcvbnm]

I still technically won!

And I wanna host a mafia game! it'll have 9 Jesters,1 mafia and no citizens.
Hilarity ensues.

Greatest game ever XD

[Jessweeee♪]

This was the best game ever.

hah...I can't believe the mafia thought I was threatening enough to almost kill nights one and two XD

[Psychotic]

I think I have some extreme ideas as well, so I'd be willing to share with you. I want a crazy game. :DExcellent! I could come up with a set up and you could come up with a set up, and we could both joint mod those games, and then hand control back to the Californian Dreamers. 'cause I think I've just come up with a particularly nasty set up (and folks, there will be no vanilla townies/citizens in it. I know how much you all hate to be them!) although I'm unsure about a balancing detail or two in it.

[demondude]

I think my version is best. =(

[Iceglow]

I'd have killed to either have been a REAL cop or just vanilla ice citizen but I was right to hunch on BtV at the start if only I'd stuck to my guns we could have lynched the god father early on.

[Roto13]

Yeah, I never trusted Void early on. He seemed like he was working with Shlup. (And he was. xP)

[Psychotic]

It's all your fault I let him live to begin with, Mr. Naive!

[qwertysaur]

Hey, even if he was a real cop, Void was the godfather so he would have come up as innocent.

[NeoCracker]

I'd hope the next Mafia game has enough people to include 3 killing factions.

That is my one true dream.

[Iceglow]

I didn't know I was the naive cop until we lynched hsu...now if I'd not listened to the people in the game and investigated azar instead of void I'd have known as soon as he went down!

[Jessweeee♪]

I TOLD YOU NAIVE COP WASN'T STUPID!!!


o.o

[Jojee]

I know it wasn't! I was just complaining etc to make people believe I was ed more :p

[Jessweeee♪]

I can't wait until the next game...though as fun as it would be with everyone having a role, I don't think any game could top this one xD

What with all of the damage the town did to itself and STILL winning :p

[Miriel]

I hope the next game is like, SUPER fast paced. :)

[Jessweeee♪]

You mean like the Disney mafia game when we were allowed to talk outside the game :greenie:

[Miriel]

Oh, yeah. I forgot to bring that up.

Now that you guys have played a full round of Mafia without talking to each other outside the game, I hope you can see what a big difference it has made.

If you really think about the way this game went down, and try to factor in what would have happened if outside discussion had been allowed, I think you'd see just how lame it would have been. No suspense, no uncertainty, etc. It's that unknown factor, that inability to contact others and confirm your own suspicions that makes Mafia interesting.

Yeah yeah, you can argue that Mafia could always use outside discussion to trick townies, but I don't think that argument really flies. Why? Cause Townies by their very nature (being innocent and all) have nothing to hide. It's easy to collaborate with other people if you have nothing to hide. Y'all talk amongst yourselves to find out who the cop is, who the doctor is, plan out which power roles should do what for the town each night, etc. And it's all fine and dandy for yourselves. But the chances of Mafia winning a game that allows outside discussion would be extremely small. And games really should be balanced if they're to be any good at all.

[Shauna]

Even though I was brutally killed in the first night, I enjoyed reading the thread. I felt the suspence just READING it! xD But yeah, that was a good game, even though I never played in it. :D

Looking forward to the next one! ;D

[edczxcvbnm]

Oh, yeah. I forgot to bring that up.

Now that you guys have played a full round of Mafia without talking to each other outside the game, I hope you can see what a big difference it has made.

If you really think about the way this game went down, and try to factor in what would have happened if outside discussion had been allowed, I think you'd see just how lame it would have been. No suspense, no uncertainty, etc. It's that unknown factor, that inability to contact others and confirm your own suspicions that makes Mafia interesting.

Yeah yeah, you can argue that Mafia could always use outside discussion to trick townies, but I don't think that argument really flies. Why? Cause Townies by their very nature (being innocent and all) have nothing to hide. It's easy to collaborate with other people if you have nothing to hide. Y'all talk amongst yourselves to find out who the cop is, who the doctor is, plan out which power roles should do what for the town each night, etc. And it's all fine and dandy for yourselves. But the chances of Mafia winning a game that allows outside discussion would be extremely small. And games really should be balanced if they're to be any good at all.

I still disagree and you assume that the town people will not accidently recruit a mafia.

[Del Murder]

Big surprise. :rolleyes2

I really like it when all the action is in the thread. It provides for added strategy and allows for everyone to know what's going on. If you are not a part of these 'town cliques' then you are not going to enjoy the game because the thread won't make sense to you.

[Roto13]

This is my first time playing Mafia all the way through so I dunno what it's like to have outside discussion, but people are saying that this was the best game of Mafia ever so I'm guessing it's better this way. xP

[Miriel]

If you really thought about the dynamics of this game (think about the roles of doctor and cop and how they're played in this game), and how outside discussion would impact it, I think you'd realize just how DRASTICALLY having the option to selectively and privately talk to other players changes the game. If you get to do that, it's not even the same game anymore, the dynamics change so much.

Yeah, I'm not gonna deny that it might be fun and interesting the other way, but at that point you're not even playing Mafia anymore. *shrugs*

This is what Mafia is.

[Psychotic]

I think it was infinitely better with no outside discussion. Discussing things is part of what gives the mafia their strength. That's why there's a town power role in the mason. It's a special skill. You let everyone do that and you're just going to see the mafia get raped like in the Disney game.

Or I guess you could give the townies no power roles and then give the mafia a lot more people. That would be fair then. But I don't think it would be as fun.
I hope the next game is like, SUPER fast paced. :)I'm frightened that it'll be too fast. It might just fall flat on its face with all the crazy :skull::skull::skull::skull: that will be going on. But we'll see.

[Del Murder]

The reason why the first mafia game that included outside discussion wasn't so bad was because not everyone thought of it. DK used it well because most players were new to the game and didn't know any better. But once they did, the town realized their advantage and Disney Mafia was the result. I'm not saying that all games will be like Disney Mafia if they involve outside talk (because the mafia really sucked in that game), but they won't be as interesting, and I guarantee the mafia will never win (unless you have something silly like 8 mafia or something).

[demondude]

The Disney mafia went wrong because all of us mafia didn't work as a team and screwed each other out of it.

Cinderella screwed Alice over and then I bummed out when I tried to help Triton and Winnie the pooh was too quiet so he got lynched later on.

[Jojee]

Cindy didn't screw Alice over xD Cindy did the best thing for the mafia. Dale and Triton (whoever those were) being the first ones to vote screwed everyone over :p Plus not enough Mafia members voted for their own.

Anyway, both ways of playing Mafia were fun to me ^_^ I don't mind whatever it is.

[Freya]

It still makes me mad how you all give joy the credit for the disney one >:/ She had no idea what to do until I came along.

I can understand how the less popular members would get screwed with the outside talk. They would have a problem with the discussion just cause they have no friends. To fix that, quit being so noobish and make friends already!

I liked it this way. Plus I knew all that went through clouts head :D That was grand. I was giggling like no other when people would speculate things.

[Jojee]

Yeah I was a mafia noob :p *wasn't in the first one* I read quite a bit of the first one though. Seemed like no one knew what they were doing. xD

[Clouded Sky]

No out side discussion is better, I think. This last game is really how mafia is supposed to be played.

[demondude]

But one of them was the usurper so the godfather had no chance.
And I was dale. :/

[Iceglow]

I played this game for the first time, and I have to admit I would have prefered not to be a naive cop sure it's not a stupid role and heck until Hsu I was pretty sure I was the normal cop but I'm definitely with Del and Miriel all the action in the thread, even when I figured out Psy was playing Crono we didn't discuss the actions in the game outside we just laughed over events and how we were both starting to get really in to it and paranoid. Had I been a normal cop I reckon I'd have done a good job of being a cop because I was giving hints all the way through hindsight they were very blatant, but the mafia never seemed to catch on until crono started discussing it with the rest of the guys.

[Shiny]

The Disney mafia went wrong because all of us mafia didn't work as a team and screwed each other out of it.

Cinderella screwed Alice over and then I bummed out when I tried to help Triton and Winnie the pooh was too quiet so he got lynched later on.
Incorrect. Psy could have screwed me over, but he didn't. Not that it would have made much of a difference at that point. There was only one person who ratted us out and that was after the fact that a few mafioso died. Though you're right about the not working as a team thing. Psy and I are the only ones who really collaborated which was a pity. It went down hill from day 1 because of the foolish voting on Triton's part. I think you backed them up too which is even more foolish.

Regardless, I blame the po po...not Psy and I. xD We tried our best and had fun in the process. But, my plan for purposely being defensive and confrontational back fired. I figured, if I go after Psy when he was getting suspicious it would take the heat off of me, but Jojee and BoB were just too damn smart. Kudos.


P.S. I'm still not sure I fully understand the purpose of having characters for this game.

[Freya]

but Jojee and BoB were just too damn smart. Kudos.

STOP SAYING THAT! She's wasn't THAT good in that game! I know! I had to tell her what to do! :mad2:

[Shiny]

Actually you're right. I take that back. Only BoB was damn smart. The rest of you formed some sort of a pack and/or followed BoB's voting.

[demondude]

OK but me, Triton and Winnie were rubbish.

[Jessweeee♪]

I played this game for the first time, and I have to admit I would have prefered not to be a naive cop sure it's not a stupid role and heck until Hsu I was pretty sure I was the normal cop but I'm definitely with Del and Miriel all the action in the thread, even when I figured out Psy was playing Crono we didn't discuss the actions in the game outside we just laughed over events and how we were both starting to get really in to it and paranoid. Had I been a normal cop I reckon I'd have done a good job of being a cop because I was giving hints all the way through hindsight they were very blatant, but the mafia never seemed to catch on until crono started discussing it with the rest of the guys.

Yeah, it would have been better if our roles were switched xD

...but we still won. We are so awesome.

[leader of mortals]

whens the next game starting

[Psychotic]

18th o' January. Sign ups will be on the 11th.

[leader of mortals]

is that really it or is it a joke... or was it said in this thread and I am too much af a lazy piece o' crap to read it

[Psychotic]

That's really it.

[leader of mortals]

YAAAAAY.........

I think my life is devoted to mafia now

[Jessweeee♪]

I think report cards come out around then :eep:

[theundeadhero]

Did I kill everyone with a tommygun yet?

[Shauna]

Sadly, yes. We are all dead.