Super Smash Bros. Brawl

[KentaRawr!]

I'm okay for a match now. Want to do it?

[Roto13]

Alright, sure. I'll set up a match. It'll probably lag like crazy, though. xP

[KentaRawr!]

All right. I'll go and get online right now.

Edit: Woah... that's pretty laggy.

[Roto13]

Yeah, that's because my body disrupts wireless internet connections. That's what I figure, anyway. I've never been able to get one to work correctly with anything.

Also, lawl you taunted and lost to a level 3 Yoshi.

In other news, I can send you stuff now! Yayness! I sent you the three stages I made. One of them is for training, one is a sticker factory, and one is awesome. xP

[KentaRawr!]

Squadala! I am off! :D

I'll check out those stages. I noticed my Wii turned blue! :o

Edit: Update the firmware on your router. :3

Edit 2: I sent you my factory.

[Roto13]

How awesome is my Waves stage? Super awesome? Or Super SUPER awesome?

[KentaRawr!]

I haven't played it yet. I'll go do that.

[Momiji]

How awesome is my Waves stage? Super awesome? Or Super SUPER awesome?

Not as awesome as my 'Spring Pit' stage, but close. <3

[KentaRawr!]

Holy carp fish! That stage is confusing! o_O

Not to say it isn't super super awesome, though. It's interesting to see stationary platforms move, even if they actually aren't moving.

Edit: By the way, Roto, what do you think of my stages? :3

[Roto13]

I think you're very sensible when it comes to stage building, and that's definitely a good thing. A lot of people make stages that consist of a blocked off room that's impossible to KO anyone in unless you're on top of it, or spikes everywhere and almost no room to fight without getting impaled on them.

So yes. I like your stages. :P

[KentaRawr!]

Thanks. :p I put some work into making those stages.

[Roto13]

Alright, so that picture you sent me is awesome. xP I'm definitely uploading it to my computer tomorrow. You said you don't have an SD card, right? If you have any more pictures you want to have on your computer, feel free to send them my way and I'll take care of it for you.

[Momiji]

I think you're very sensible when it comes to stage building, and that's definitely a good thing. A lot of people make stages that consist of a blocked off room that's impossible to KO anyone in unless you're on top of it, or spikes everywhere and almost no room to fight without getting impaled on them.


Admit it. You liked my stages. ;)

[KentaRawr!]

Roto, your training stage could be made into a simple Stamina stage if you put Spikes along the top. It won't have anywhere to place combatants but the inside of the square. :p

[Evastio]

I've finally got Brawl after getting it ordered. I must say I'm really enjoying it. :D

It's taking me a while to adjust to the Remote & Nunchuk Controls and the floaty feel the game has. So don't be expecting any Wi-Fi matches from me anytime soon guys. I know there's a chance that I might be able to win against you guys, but I want to get in some more practice so I won't embarass myself in front of you guys that badly.

[Roto13]

Roto, your training stage could be made into a simple Stamina stage if you put Spikes along the top. It won't have anywhere to place combatants but the inside of the square. :p
That's actually a really good idea. I'll try that.


I think you're very sensible when it comes to stage building, and that's definitely a good thing. A lot of people make stages that consist of a blocked off room that's impossible to KO anyone in unless you're on top of it, or spikes everywhere and almost no room to fight without getting impaled on them.


Admit it. You liked my stages. ;)
I think your stages need some tweaking, that's all. xD I could probably tweak them for you and send them to you. And take full credit for them. Because I'm cool like that.

This is Kentarou's awesome screenshot I was talking about last night. xD

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/rotothirteen/Smash%20Bros%20Brawl%20Screenshots/89e9969e4eee2f80.jpg

I just got this earlier today. You get it for completing All Star with everyone.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/rotothirteen/Smash%20Bros%20Brawl%20Screenshots/8cb14e86cf219a3c.jpg

I was SO happy to see the inclusion of a Hotel Dusk trophy. One thing you can't tell from the picture is that the Kyle Hyde trophy is animated slightly. He's standing still, but anyone who has played Hotel Dusk or seen the A-Ha video will know what I mean. They still move even when they're not moving. :p

[KentaRawr!]

Snake is probably my favorite character to take pictures with, just because of the box. :p

[Roto13]

I did a couple of the Target Test challenges today. Level 1 in under 15 seconds and level 4 in under 32. I thought I was going to have an ulcer for level 4, but I did it. xP

[ljkkjlcm9]

Roto, you still have yet to add me!

on another note, I rather like the stage for today, it's different but fun.
I've made so many stages myself, it's nice to see another person make one I enjoy, most of the stages of the day I've hated

THE JACKEL

[Roto13]

I want them to feature the stage I made. xP I'm very proud of it.

[KentaRawr!]

I want them to feature the stage I made. xP I'm very proud of it.

Then send it in! :p

[Roto13]

I did send it in. <3

[ljkkjlcm9]

I want them to feature the stage I made. xP I'm very proud of it.

you should add me so you can actually send it to me
When you do I can see what type of stages you like, and maybe send a few of mine. I've made like 25 stages

THE JACKEL

[Creeping Shadow]

I've finally got Brawl after getting it ordered. I must say I'm really enjoying it. :D

It's taking me a while to adjust to the Remote & Nunchuk Controls and the floaty feel the game has. So don't be expecting any Wi-Fi matches from me anytime soon guys. I know there's a chance that I might be able to win against you guys, but I want to get in some more practice so I won't embarass myself in front of you guys that badly.

You know Evastio you can use the gamecube controller for Brawl. Its what I use all the time.

[Evastio]

I don't own one. :(

I guess the Wii Remote does have a few advantages. Like how it's easier to pull off Smash Attacks and combo A attacks.

[KentaRawr!]

So, Evastio, how do you like Snake? :p

[Roto13]

I don't own one. :(

I guess the Wii Remote does have a few advantages. Like how it's easier to pull off Smash Attacks and combo A attacks.

Easier than tilting the C stick or holding A? :P (Seriously. Get a GCN controller.)

[Evastio]

So, Evastio, how do you like Snake? :p
I haven't even unlocked him yet. :rolleyes2

Sonic, I somehow did. It was around my 80th match or something (I even confirmed this on the Brawl Records menu) when I won a match with the Ice Climbers on The Summit. For some reason I was facing Sonic despite not doing 300 Vs. Matches or completing Adventure Mode (can anyone explain how that works?). I took care of him easily with the classic Ice Climber Hammer Smash Throw. After that I didn't bother even touching him, except for using him as a computer opponent. Personally, he wasn't as overpowered as I thought he was. He's very vulnerable to attacks during his roll attacks (namely the Ice Shot) and his roll attacks don't have as much knockback as I thought they would. I thought for sure he'd be immune to flinching during his roll attacks.

Easier than tilting the C stick or holding A? :P (Seriously. Get a GCN controller.)
I don't really want to have to bring my Wii repeatedly from the speakers to the floor (where people kick it over since it's in the way) when I play Brawl and plug the Gamecube controllers in. I'm planning to get one of those Wireless Gamecube controllers that are Wii compatible. I'm having a hard time finding them though.

[Momiji]

Here's a screenshot I took on one of my new custom stages. I sent it to Rhody so he could host it for me (I don't have an SD card compatible with the Wii.)

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/rotothirteen/Smash%20Bros%20Brawl%20Screenshots/0bee6ed4b6b4367b.jpg

[JKTrix]

Easier than tilting the C stick or holding A? :P (Seriously. Get a GCN controller.)
I don't really want to have to bring my Wii repeatedly from the speakers to the floor (where people kick it over since it's in the way) when I play Brawl and plug the Gamecube controllers in. I'm planning to get one of those Wireless Gamecube controllers that are Wii compatible. I'm having a hard time finding them though.
The Classic Controller works very well. It should be easier to find, and it won't be tethered to the Wii. I use it more often than I use my GC controller.

[ljkkjlcm9]

can someone who uploads screens to their computer get me a good screenshot of wolf for a background... there don't seem to be many pictures of him around.

THE JACKEL

[Roto13]

Why don't you just do it yourself? You said you have an SD card, right?

[KentaRawr!]

Of course he wouldn't be too over-powered, Evastio. He was part of the balancing process, even if he was a late addition to the game's roster. Since the game hasn't been out for too long, we don't know of any kinds of techniques that would alter the situation very much to a point of making one character drastically over-powered when compared to another.

[Creeping Shadow]

I don't really want to have to bring my Wii repeatedly from the speakers to the floor (where people kick it over since it's in the way) when I play Brawl and plug the Gamecube controllers in. I'm planning to get one of those Wireless Gamecube controllers that are Wii compatible. I'm having a hard time finding them though.


Use a Wavebird type thats what I use and it works just fine.

[Evastio]

Of course he wouldn't be too over-powered, Evastio. He was part of the balancing process, even if he was a late addition to the game's roster. Since the game hasn't been out for too long, we don't know of any kinds of techniques that would alter the situation very much to a point of making one character drastically over-powered when compared to another.
I guess you're right. Still, with all of the praise Sonic's been getting from fans regarding how good he is in Brawl and the addition of a lot more anti flinch moves compared to the past 2 games that's the conclusion I've been lead to believing.


The Classic Controller works very well. It should be easier to find, and it won't be tethered to the Wii. I use it more often than I use my GC controller.


Use a Wavebird type thats what I use and it works just fine.
Once I'm able to find and get either of the two I will. But for now I'll have to stick with the Wii Remote and Nunchuk.

[Roto13]

I'll tell you what I'm not doing. Boss Battle mode. I hate the boss battles in SSE, I don't want to do them like 34+ times. I don't care what you unlock for it.

[Monol]

I was pretty disappointed with the bosses frankly. Theres like 3 of them that I really like and the others bleh. Wish there were more...

But I like boss battles mode so Im going to be doing that alot I supose.
Its easy once you have the right team (2 charizards...rock smash :D )

[Roto13]

It's not particularly hard, it's just the exact opposite of fun.

[Lenna]

You guys are lucky, we don't get it over here til July I think. I can't wait to get it haha. <3 My Wii!

[Rase]

I'll tell you what I'm not doing. Boss Battle mode. I hate the boss battles in SSE, I don't want to do them like 34+ times. I don't care what you unlock for it.
Agreed. I only plan to go through and got all the trophies for "Beat Boss Battle on ______ Difficulty", and will probably use a hammer for the "Beat with Everyone" and "Beat on Intense" ones.

Finally got the ones for the Cruel Brawl (kill 5 and 10 dudes). Managed to get 10 in one go after trying like 30 times. Bleh.

[Roto13]

You can't use a hammer for "Beat on Intense" and probably not for "Beat with everyone" either. *dies*

[Rase]

Oh geez. Well I guess those will never be unlocked.

[Monol]

Hammers suck lol I havent even tried an actual gold hammer in the game yet *sigh* Oh well those colory ball things are pretty wicked though. Its tradition for us now to have those and sandbag on at all times.

[Skyblade]

Cruel Brawl is a cinch. Pit has the easiest time of it. Run off, jump a couple times, Up-B to recover, grab the edge, use your A to attack as you get back on, rinse, and repeat. The alloys will just suicide off the edge. Zero Suit Samus can do a decent job of it too, though I find with her it's better to switch sides each time you jump off. Just watch out for the Green Alloys, as they will use Kirby's Air Down-A if they are directly above you.

[Creeping Shadow]

The first and only time I got a golden hammer it turned out to be a dud.

[Rase]

Cruel Brawl is a cinch. Pit has the easiest time of it. Run off, jump a couple times, Up-B to recover, grab the edge, use your A to attack as you get back on, rinse, and repeat. The alloys will just suicide off the edge. Zero Suit Samus can do a decent job of it too, though I find with her it's better to switch sides each time you jump off. Just watch out for the Green Alloys, as they will use Kirby's Air Down-A if they are directly above you.
Funny, the highest I ever got with Pit using that strategy was 3. I finally got the 10 by using Jigglypuff instead. Oh, and maybe I'm just horribly unlucky, but every time I used A to climb up and attack, the Red or Blue Alloy would just wallop me off the stage and kill me during that brief time of being vulnerable. I eventually just kept dropping from the edge outward and floating up three times, then angling back in and using my last two to grab the ledge again before doing it all over again.

[Shoeberto]

I don't really care about trophies but man, I really want all the CDs and levels. It freaks me out that there's still large, solid blocks of blue on my wall and there could be some amazing song behind it that I'll never know how to get :(


(oh right gamefaqs)

[Skyblade]

I only have one challenge song left to get (50 Hours of Brawls). I wonder if my Song Factory didn't work because I already have all the other CDs...

So far, the biggest disappointments have been the stage builder and My Music. My Music because it doesn't let you switch songs, and the stage builder because tons of options are left out. I want to create grounded stages. I have a really nice stage idea that just doesn't look right with the current tools. It's disappointing.

[Roto13]

Right now I have my Wii left on in a four-player 1-HP stamina game with items turned off. :P Waiting for the 30- and 50-hour challenges. I'm assuming it's like the last game and it counts the amount of time in a brawl times the number of human players.

[Skyblade]

Did it wind up working, Roto? Still haven't bothered to try myself, but 12.5 hours is a lot better than 50.

[Roto13]

Yeah, it worked. It does go by combined vs. time, so the more human players, the less time it takes. I got the 50 hour challenge today. I used a hammer on the 100 hour challenge, though. That's just too much.

After I got the 50-hour reward song, I went to my factory stage for ten minutes and got six more songs, completing my collection. :P Now I'm working on stickers and trophies. I have 440 trophies or something. I got a ton of them in the coin launcher today.

EDIT: Here's something pretty interesting!

The Tanooki » 25 lost tracks discovered on SSBB disc (http://www.thetanooki.com/2008/03/29/25-lost-tracks-discovered-on-ssbb-disc/)

[Monol]

Wow very cool find roto. 100 hours to long?! Jeez do you not like playing the game or somthing lol? I guess im one of the odd balls that plays for way longer then he or she should... I just got the 50 hour thing today and I still havent used a single hammer yet...then again im not really going after all the challenges (except the CD's you cant pass up on the music in this game).

Any hoot anyone else find the lvl 9s to be rifreakindiculous in this game?

YouTube - ice climbers cpu combo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXrnF7Dq0Rg)

O_o

[Creeping Shadow]

Yeah Lvl nines are considerably stronger this time around.

[ljkkjlcm9]

Yeah Lvl nines are considerably stronger this time around.

they're pretty easy 1v1 IMO, it's just even when you do free for all... all computers go after human players. So if it's you versus 3 computers, they will all attack you

I seem to remember hearing that the AI develops as you play with characters more and actually learns those techniques. That ice climber video is pretty cool, and not too difficult to do. Grab, then forward B repeatedly, they'll alternate doing it because one starts out grabbing. Granted, your stupid CPU one may go wild unlike theirs, but it's nice to know how they did it anyways.

THE JACKEL

[Roto13]

Wow very cool find roto. 100 hours to long?! Jeez do you not like playing the game or somthing lol? I guess im one of the odd balls that plays for way longer then he or she should... I just got the 50 hour thing today and I still havent used a single hammer yet...then again im not really going after all the challenges (except the CD's you cant pass up on the music in this game).

Any hoot anyone else find the lvl 9s to be rifreakindiculous in this game?

YouTube - ice climbers cpu combo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXrnF7Dq0Rg)

O_o

Oh, I like it, but I don't feel like hanging around and playing 100 hours of vs matches. :P

[ljkkjlcm9]

yay, they added wolf to the main site today. Some pretty decent screenies at least.

I recently took a screenie while playing of me as ROB, with his final smash and a hammer, he was unstoppable!

THE JACKEL

[Heath]

Played it first on the Saturday of Easter weekend. Found it a bit underwhelming in all honesty. Not a bad game by any means, but not as good as I'd been hoping for. My favourite of the new characters is easily Pit who I'm pretty good with. Still good with Marth, Captain Falcon, Samus and Zelda/Sheik. I struggle to use Ganondorf now though due to how much slower he is.

Oh and as for the level maker, the best level any of my friends or I managed to make simply consisted of blocks making up the word TRON. Sounds ridiculous, but it was quite a good level.

[Monol]

Im not overly fond of ganon either but tech chasing with his over b is the coolest feeling the game has to offer. Im really starting to dig ness actually and pits starting to become more fun to use as well.

[Evastio]

Unfortunately I won't be able to face any of you guys on Wi-Fi. It isn't working for me. :(

[Flying Mullet]

What's so amazing about this game? I've never played it but you would think it's crack from the way everyone salivates over it.

[KentaRawr!]

It's not that it's amazing, really. It's just that it's popular, and thus people can justifiably state things complete and total exaggerations without feeling bad. Of course, after a certain point, it became cool to state complete and total exaggerations about games barely anyone has played, as it makes them look like gaming veterans.

Of course, some people hear these things about games and they equate these exaggerations to something that is in truth, normally much lower, and apply actions to their experience of the game that would normally equate to such craziness, like marrying the game disc.

[Evastio]

Try playing it yourself and getting into it. After a few matches you should see why. (:

Unless you're one of those people that hate Nintendo...

[ljkkjlcm9]

What's so amazing about this game? I've never played it but you would think it's crack from the way everyone salivates over it.

it's a fighting game, but it isn't

See in other fighting games you typically have the stupid health bar. Well you don't have that in this game. You play on a stage, and try to knock the other characters off of it. Their percentage rises as they take more damage, meaning they get hit further. Eventually, if you get hit hard enough, you can get knocked off the side of the screen or the top of the screen. If not, you can attempt to recover by jumping and using moves to get back to the stage. This makes it more fun than most fighting games, IMO, because it takes something really big to kill you, or you can just last a lot longer. Not only that, you can have 4 people fighting at once, and those matches get really hectic and crazy.

That's one thing I noticed. People complained that this game seems slower than melee, yet, the group battles always seem a hell of a lot more hectic to me.

THE JACKEL

[Roto13]

It is slower, but it's more hectic because people have time to think and react. :P

I know I said I wouldn't be doing the Boss Battles challenges, but I just finished getting the one for completing it with every character. ;>_> I'm not doing it on Hard or above, though. Tabuu and his stupid 1-hit kill attacks. Gah!

[Flying Mullet]

I know I said I wouldn't be doing the Boss Battles challenges, but I just finished getting the one for completing it with every character. ;>_> I'm not doing it on Hard or above, though. Tabuu and his stupid 1-hit kill attacks. Gah!
*fast forward one month*

I know I said I wouldn't be doing it on Hard or above, but I just finished getting the one for completing it with every character.

[Roto13]

In two months it will be Very Hard, then in three months, Insane, and at four months, world domination!

[KentaRawr!]

No, then you just beat the :skull::skull::skull::skull: out of your boss, and all your friend's boss's, and escape from the police.

[Jowy]

o hay guise

2320-6134-5113, for both Misfit and I.

I just made Kane bite the curb.

[Roto13]

*adds you*

[Creeping Shadow]

YouTube - スマブラX�男女��タ�れ注�】 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rQqTl2lG0o&feature=related)

Love the obscurity!:D

[Roto13]

That was difficult to watch. xD

I'm aiming for the 2,000 KO trophy now. I have 1,200 so far. Last night I broke 1,000 by having a four-player free-for-all match with 99 stock. :P

[KentaRawr!]

Do Special Matches count for that? And do CPU's count?

[Roto13]

I believe special matches count, but I don't think CPU kills do. If you're going to do what I did, it's probably a good idea to put the CPU characters at a low level so you get almost all of the kills. :P

One thing that really bugged me, though, is the fact that they kept ganging up on me. Whenever Meta Knight got a Final Smash, he made a bee line for me. xD The computer opponents spawned with Final Smashes too much, too. I'd estimate that they'd have one ready about a third of the time. I didn't get one that way. >_>

[No.78]

2492-3996-7242

Add me and PM me yours if you want to battle :3

[Evastio]

I think I'm ready for you guys.

Brawl Code: 0259-0337-0512

Despite my complaints regarding Snake, Sonic, and Toon Link feel free to use them against me. Just don't be too annoying with them/use them just to annoy me. As for who I use I'll let you find that out yourselves when you face me.

[KentaRawr!]

I'll go adderize you in a while, Evastio. I'll be sure to use Snake.

[Monol]

I'll use toon linke ;)

[Evastio]

And the next person (who I'm guessing is Roto) is using Sonic.

[Roto13]

I don't use Sonic a lot. I use Snake.

Monol, you're Ocean, right? I saw you were online last night but you weren't hosting a game or anything. xP

[KentaRawr!]

We should all have a match at the same time. The stupid lag will be worth it to fight Evastio using Toon Link, Sonic, and Snake at the same time.

[Roto13]

That would be awesome. xP Three on one. xD

[qwertysaur]

Sorry I haven't come on, the wireless internet in my dorm doesn't work in my room for some reason.:( I'll be able to come on when I get back home though.

[ljkkjlcm9]

Toon Link is actually one of the better characters in the game.

THE JACKEL

[Evastio]

Although I think Toon Link being in Brawl is redundant I know he's quite good. Especially after being down stabbed by one all the time on Wi-Fi. I still won in the end though in a Sudden Death Match between him and me.

Also Kentarou, although that match idea sounds fantastic you're going to have to register me first before we can have that match. I've already got Roto13 and Monol registered.

[Roto13]

That was the worst lag I've ever caused. xP Sorry guys. (Who was that exactly?)

[Monol]

Yea Im ocean im normally more active lol my bad for the whole "just being online" thing...sorry if I cause so much lag too I use a wifi usb so I cant handle free for alls very well. I can handle 1 on ones though nicely (on a good day :cool: ) but dont count me in on the free for all thing...*sigh*

All in all though as always Im always down to play so hit me up if you guys are down as well :cool:

[Evastio]

That was the worst lag I've ever caused. xP Sorry guys. (Who was that exactly?)
That was me. I was Mr. Game & Watch.

Yea Im ocean im normally more active lol my bad for the whole "just being online" thing...sorry if I cause so much lag too I use a wifi usb so I cant handle free for alls very well. I can handle 1 on ones though nicely (on a good day :cool: ) but dont count me in on the free for all thing...*sigh*
That explains why you didn't let my buddies join in. I thought it was because you thought we'd be teaming up on you.

Also Monol, you sure are savage. And I thought R.O.B. was one of my best characters out of all of Brawl's newcomers. I'm guessing you used Toon Link just to spite me eh?

[Creeping Shadow]

Just out of curiosoty, is anyone still checking out the smash dojo anymore.

[Skyblade]

Just out of curiosoty, is anyone still checking out the smash dojo anymore.

Yep, I am. I know a lot of it already, but there are a couple nice pieces of info on it.

[Roto13]

It does a good job of pointing out the differences between clone characters.

[Creeping Shadow]

I use it for images.

[Monol]

I check up on the site. Cause krystals gonna be on there eventually of course :D sakuris full of suprises after all.

Evastio sorry bout not letting your buddys In. Like I said USB wifi blows so until I get a better connection thats all I got to offer sadly. Also Id like to say I've played my fair share of pepole online but your R.O.B is one of the most evasive little puppies I've ever played lol I was like "hows that thing dodging all my projectiles?!" Good stuff. Hope we can have more matches sometime (Nice to see a fellow marth as well ;) )

Whoa kentarou I just saw the idea you posted lol We should definalty try that sometime

[Roto13]

That'd be me. :P

[Evastio]

Evastio sorry bout not letting your buddys In. Like I said USB wifi blows so until I get a better connection thats all I got to offer sadly. Also Id like to say I've played my fair share of pepole online but your R.O.B is one of the most evasive little puppies I've ever played lol I was like "hows that thing dodging all my projectiles?!" Good stuff. Hope we can have more matches sometime (Nice to see a fellow marth as well ;) )
It's okay. Although it would be nice if at least one of my buddies could join me in Wi-Fi matches against you. Also, in that Final Destination Match I was actually Wolf. Since you didn't let any extra people join in (which happened to be me in that match) I had to convince someone to let me take over for them since the timer for the character selection was going to run out and he already chose Wolf by the time that he gave the controller to me. That'd explain why I was so lousy with Wolf's recovery. Don't worry, I'm not blaming you for it. It was kind of amusing seeing you think that I was Marth in that match though. I was Marth in those 2 matches that weren't completed though.

As for that R.O.B. vs. Toon Link match in Port Town I'll admit that I was really disappointed that I lost with you having one life left at 0%. But hearing you compliment my evading skills made me feel better. :D

Although it was mostly because of the lag that I saw your attacks coming. I guess next time I should probably balance out how much I attack and defend/dodge.

Anyways, let's see how our friend Sakurai is faring after hearing how successfully Brawl has been selling.

http://i29.:bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:/2gv7ha0.gif

[Creeping Shadow]

He seems to be doing quite well. :p Also Evastio we need to face off on Wi-Fi! (as soon as I get the chance)

[Ultima Shadow]

About one month left until the european release! I can't waaaait! :hyper:

[JKTrix]

The Dojo is giving its curtain call (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtain_call). Today, a rather handy checklist that you can print out of all the trophies in the game.

I'm gonna fold that up and stick it in my game case.

[Roto13]

I think I almost have all of the non-SSE trophies. :P

[Monol]

Yes ultima shadow! I cant wait till everyone gets the game...then the party can reeeeaally begin ey?

Oh and Evastio if any of your friends want to play me feel free to drop in. Just keep in mind free for alls have crazy lag with me but im always down for some good ol fashion friendly duels. And dont be dissapointed ever you! The fun with losing is learning from it. Just keep practicing silly!

www.smashboards.com

Thats for anyone who wants to read up on some cool tricks and tactics to getting better. Also feel free to join one of if not the coolest videogame communitys ever. Plus theres lots of places you can get FC's so you can show off ya skillz.

[Roto13]

The new Dojo Update talks about what happened in SSE mode. Pretty interesting, since it covers stuff not shown in the game.

Smash Bros. DOJO!! (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea17.html)

[ljkkjlcm9]

It's too bad they had to cut out that initial scene with Meta and Dedede... might've helped to explain some things when I was playing it

THE JACKEL

[Creeping Shadow]

Im just glad they put that on the dojo it really explained a lot.:)

[Markus. D]

Smash Bros brawl became available by Game Traders today n_n;

I'm guessing it's imported?

If it's NTSC... will it still work on my PAL area type Wii?

If so... IT'S MINE!

[Roto13]

It'll work on your PAL Wii if you buy a freeloader as well.

[The Summoner of Leviathan]

I gots a copy but I suck at it at the moment. Complete n00b! ^__^

Me code if anyone wants an ego boost (i.e. beat my ass):

2878-9734-5630

*adds peoples*

[Roto13]

Tentacle Rape!

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/rotothirteen/Smash%20Bros%20Brawl%20Screenshots/etc02_080411_039-l.jpg

[Ultima Shadow]

Tentacle Rape!

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/rotothirteen/Smash%20Bros%20Brawl%20Screenshots/etc02_080411_039-l.jpg
*fap, fap, fap*

G&W has my favourite FS... by far. :greenie:

[Markus. D]

Trust EoFF to post this -_-;

[Roto13]

I got that picture straight from the Dojo. :P

[Zeldy]

0817-3865-2004

Though it is my brother's, so wait till I PM you or you PM me if you want to play. My brother ordered it from America, about last week. I've always played the SSB games and I kick arse. I like playing as either Marth or Pit.

okay, I don't kick arse as much Online, it's so laggy! :(

[Jessweeee♪]

Ooh I heard there was a trophy and some other thing with Trace Memory characters! Is this troo?



OMG


...so I walk into my first period on friday, AND THE STUDENTS ARE PLAYING BRAWL ON THE PROJECTOR! I was soooo jealous ;_;

I haven't bothered buying it because I won't be ungrounded from my Wii for months xD

[Roto13]

The main character of Trace Memory appears as a trophy, and there are some Trace Memory stickers.

I can take pictures of them, if you want.

[jerrid warren]

well i skip school to play this game i think this is the best reason to buy a wii ofcourse i still play fox

[Roto13]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html

The Dojo posted it's farewell today. Kind of sad, since we've been following it for 11 months.

Aside from the note from Sakurai, don't miss the actual update for today. Little bits of trivia. :P

But:


Also, there’s always a chance that I will need to update sometime in the future with some kind of announcement.

DLC confirmed for Brawl. :P

[Monol]

Krystal for brawl :D

[Evastio]

I guess now would be a good time to make an exaggerated (and sarcastic) letter expressing our thanks to the Dojo:

Dear Dojo,

We're all very sad to see your updates come to an end. Well, except for me since it means no more annoying Snake and Sonic updates.

When it came to revealing things about Brawl, you were always there for us (except on weekends, traitor). During those 11 months you were being updated, we had our ups (2 player solo mode updates) and our downs (certain characters and delays). Although at times you put down our hopes for things we wanted (like Marth and Ness) the good updates more than made up for it (like the Super Cosby Bros Brawl musi... wait. That was the Mojo. Never mind).

Also, even though we hated you for telling us about delays you made up for it by, uh, no wait. You didn't. Yeah, you suck for being the bringer of bad news.

We'll always remember you in our hearts. Unless of course we have amnesia or if we forget.

[KentaRawr!]

Speak for yourself on the Sonic and Snake updates. :p

[Shoeberto]

Watch this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDeKxTSJjtE) and then play Brawl.

It's hard not to quote it all the time.

[Evastio]

Speak for yourself on the Sonic and Snake updates. :p
I did. For the first part of it.

The certain characters part doesn't necessarily apply to me. There're some people on EoFF that are still against the idea of certain characters being in Brawl (namely Ness, Marth, and Falco). Personally I don't agree with that. Falco is Fox's most reliable partner (Peppy is too old and Slippy is a little too clumsy. Krystal is also reliable but Falco's been there more for Fox than Krystal has, no offense Monol. They're like a Mario/Luigi duo.) and not wanting Ness and Marth in because they're clones of Lucas and Ike is just ridiculous. That's like saying Mario and Link should be kicked out because they're clones of Dr. Mario and Young Link.

On a lighter note, here's an interesting story (http://kotaku.com/379092/super-smashing-proposal) of what a guy did with his copy of Brawl.

Also, here's another version of that SSBB Dancing Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbbvzJc5Cr8&feature=related) that includes all the characters (Mr. Game & Watch's is extremely funny). :D

[Roto13]

Ike isn't even close to a clone of Marth. He has, like, one similar move and that's it.

My favourite bits of trivia:


The attack you can perform when climbing up from a ledge changes when your accumulated damage climbs over 100% or so.

Every once in a while Pit will utter "I’m done for..." as his death cry.

If you charge Marth’s neutral special move to it’s max in midair, Marth will rush forward while attacking, making it a useful recovery move.

Use Snake’s neutral special move, the Hand Grenade, and allow the device to explode near him. Snake will cover his ears.

If you hit the opponent with Snake’s side special move, the Remote-Controlled Missile, Snake will do a quick fist pump as if to say "Yes!" On the other hand, if you miss, Snake will do a quick pose to show his disappointment.

Approximately one out of every 6 C4 packs Snake uses will be a C3 butterfly explosive. The power of the attack is unchanged in these instances.

Brawl’s director, Masahiro Sakurai, provided the voice for King Dedede.

The Coin Launcher is set up so that there is a low probability of trophies appearing that you haven’t yet collected. By defeating little groups of enemies you raise the likelihood of new uncollected trophies appearing. Therefore, trying to be sneaky and bailing out without trying to shoot down missiles or enemies will only end up hurting your chances of completing your collection.

When summoned, the Assist Trophy Dr. Wright has a 1 in 10 chance of calling forth a massive skyscraper. The damage it does is appropriately massive.

If you attack the Assist Trophy Mr. Resetti, he will occasionally grow angry and cause an explosion. If you hear him yell "Quiet down, will ya? I’m talkin’ here! HEY!" or something to that effect, it’s your cue to flee.

If Mr. Resetti appears on a fall-away platform or a platform that moves off the screen, he’ll get angry with you as he disappears.

The Subspace enemies known as the Primid change their expressions each time you turn on the game. There is quite a variety of faces for you to discover.

[.:kerrod:.]

well i'm in australia and i would kill at least 2 people for this game (or maybe 3 if two were small children :bigsmile: ) but anyway, i want the PAL version, so i'm not gonna import. my real question is: you're all giving out friend codes, but does only one person need to add the codes? because i have a wii and my friend and i tried to send messages to each other, but we had to add each other's codes before any interaction could occur (like, i had to add him AND he had to add me). I was wondering if it's the same with brawl, etc? because how can you possibly add each other when you're just adding random people? and on that note, can i play people from the US and such when this is FINALLY released? :(

[Roto13]

The friends codes are pretty much there so you won't be added by random people. Both people need to trade friend codes.

[Monol]

That story is so romantic! I love brawl even more now :love:

Id disagree with the falco krystal thing evastio...but to each its own ey? ;)

Kerrod lag or no lag we should play. I demand to be your first match :greenie:

[.:kerrod:.]

haha YAY! i'm in, i'll pencil you in for 2012 when it's released here :p and im assuming we CAN play other countries...cos you're in the U.S. :p
so, out of curiosity, who do you main?
and do you want to exchange codes? :p or would you like to put off your impending ass-spanking until a while after it's released here? :bigsmile:

P.S. although my sig is based around the MOTHER series, Ness isn't exactly my main, it's just that they went with the picture in the middle (which i find funny, and smurf anybody who doesn't :tongue::choc2: though i am a bit bias seeing as i made it :rolleyes2) and Lucas is looking good in brawl :D

[Roto13]

Lucas is better than Ness is most ways. :P

As for who I main, when I want to win, I'm either Marth, Ike, or Pikachu. Otherwise, I usually put it on Random and just have fun with it. I kind of wish there was a random character switch, though.

[Shoeberto]

Speaking of random switches... is there anyway to make it so the random level button doesn't choose level editor stages?

[ljkkjlcm9]

Speaking of random switches... is there anyway to make it so the random level button doesn't choose level editor stages?

yeah after you do so many battles, you get additional options... which includes the random stage selections (like in Melee)

Either that or you could just delete all the custom stages you have if you never want to use them.

THE JACKEL

[Evastio]

Speaking of random switches... is there anyway to make it so the random level button doesn't choose level editor stages?

yeah after you do so many battles, you get additional options... which includes the random stage selections (like in Melee)
Yeah. You should have the Random Stage Switch by now. :confused:


so, out of curiosity, who do you main?
I'd rather show you my mains in Wi-Fi matches than just tell you straight out.

[Monol]

haha YAY! i'm in, i'll pencil you in for 2012 when it's released here :p and im assuming we CAN play other countries...cos you're in the U.S. :p
so, out of curiosity, who do you main?
and do you want to exchange codes? :p or would you like to put off your impending ass-spanking until a while after it's released here? :bigsmile:

P.S. although my sig is based around the MOTHER series, Ness isn't exactly my main, it's just that they went with the picture in the middle (which i find funny, and smurf anybody who doesn't :tongue::choc2: though i am a bit bias seeing as i made it :rolleyes2) and Lucas is looking good in brawl :D


I am a pokemon trainer main actually. We shall wait then sir for your ass shall be grass...but we'll let the grass grow first muhahaha. Oh your gonna looove lucas but dont let anyone fool you. Ness is a million times better and I'll play anyone who says otherwise.

[Creeping Shadow]

Wow its sad to see the dojo go. And Evastio's video just solved the mystery of where my sig came from.:p

[ljkkjlcm9]

I am a pokemon trainer main actually. We shall wait then sir for your ass shall be grass...but we'll let the grass grow first muhahaha. Oh your gonna looove lucas but dont let anyone fool you. Ness is a million times better and I'll play anyone who says otherwise.

Lol, I bet I could beat your Ness with my Lucas

And I main wolf... haven't played in like 2 weeks though

THE JACKEL

[Rase]

I main Wolf as well, and love Lucas, Marth, Luigi, Zero Suit Samus, and Link. Really though, I like playing as almost anyone.

[ljkkjlcm9]

I main Wolf as well, and love Lucas, Marth, Luigi, Zero Suit Samus, and Link. Really though, I like playing as almost anyone.


Zero Suit Samus is fun for me
Kirby was much improved in this version and was my main on N64, so I like him
Zelda is much better, always wanted to use her more
Marth/Ike I like both but in their own ways.
I prefer Toon Link to Link for speed and jumping ability
I prefer Mario to Luigi if only for the cape (great for edge guard)

That's probably who I like to use the most. I enjoy basically every character though except... Donkey Kong, Bowser, and Dedede (Hate slow characters)

THE JACKEL

[.:kerrod:.]

yeah, i'm not big on slow characters either, but i hope this game will at least give you the ability to win with them :p i know some people would be fantastic with them on melee, but i dunno...i am looking forward to dedede though.

I was shattered when the dojo stopped updating, even though i knew the date and all well in advance :( i wouldn't be so broken up if i could GET the game :p i just can't wait to use the wi-fi thing with it...but although i talk big, i've realised recently that i suck at video games in general. i can beat most games i play and stuff, but i'm never extremely good at anything and i can never find all the 'secret' things by myself, i always have to consult a walkthrough for some of those (i know, im ashamed). Plus, on melee, i never really had to use the 'shield' buttons, so i've never 'learned' how to shield :p, so im gonna get pwned by whoever i play :(

It's great to hear about who other people main, because i have respect for the people who play as characters i suck at :p and im so glad kirby got a bit of an upgrade again...he's the bomb xD

P.S. Roto13, i'd like to take this opportunity to tell you how much i enjoy reading your posts, etc. :p there's always your familiar sigs/avatars, which makes this place feel like a smaller 'community' than it is...i know, how very, very corny of me, i'm not that kind of person, but whatev :p Roto13 is my loonybob, so BACK OFF!
The REAL P.S. is that i also want a random character change button, i wanted that so badly on melee and it never came :(

[Monol]

I am a pokemon trainer main actually. We shall wait then sir for your ass shall be grass...but we'll let the grass grow first muhahaha. Oh your gonna looove lucas but dont let anyone fool you. Ness is a million times better and I'll play anyone who says otherwise.

Lol, I bet I could beat your Ness with my Lucas

And I main wolf... haven't played in like 2 weeks though

THE JACKAL

lol! Bring it on jackel!

I like Toon link ALOT. All of my previous mains are like good now like zelda, yoshi and ness so there a blast to play. Ganons terrible but hes soo fun. Zero suit, samus, and dark link (sooo bad ass) are like my heros and I still play a little marth as well. But its fun to throw down with anyone (except lucario...grr) oh oh especially jiggly puff with that sun hat O_O So...Amazing....

Fear not Kerrod theres a random button dealy. Its about time is all I have to say :D

[qwertysaur]

When I get my Wifi working again, I'll be happy to play with all of you. I'm so happy that Zelda is stronger now, Din's fire is perfect to get smash balls.:D Also I like Pit, Pokemon Trainer, Ness, Zero Suit Samus and Lucario.

So what stages do you like to play on? I love the pirate ship, Bridge of Eldin and Spear Pillar.

[Rase]

That's probably who I like to use the most. I enjoy basically every character though except... Donkey Kong, Bowser, and Dedede (Hate slow characters)

THE JACKAL
I'm still not a fan of DK, but Dedede is a joy to beat people with, and Bowser seems better here then in Melee. Maybe it's his new side-B and the fun of suicide dives.

Anyway, my favorite levels are probably Norfair, Bridge of Eldin, Spear Pillar, Lylat Cruise, and Delfino Plaza. The only levels I really hate are 75m, Mario Bros. and Rumble Falls.

[Roto13]

There are three levels I don't like.

Mushroomy Kingdom 2: It's too closed in for a moving stage. You spend half your time breaking blocks and not fighting, unless you're on the top of the stage where the first person to hit with an up smash wins.

Mario Bros.: It's a cool enough idea, but it changes the way the game is played too much.

DK Jungle Melee: Come on. It sucked before, it sucks now.

Also, Kerrod, the spammers make EoFF what it is. :P

[Shoeberto]

Mushroomy Kingdom is a pretty awesome idea, but yeah, it does start to suck when you keep getting into 1-2... 1-1 isn't so bad though.

Mario Bros. just isn't very much fun at all. Same with 83m. I appreciate the old-school attempt but really they don't translate that well into Brawl levels.

The new DK level isn't very fun either. The ice climber's level in Melee was kinda cool but it was very symmetric. The new one is more unpredictable which I think makes it more difficult to play.

I don't really like the electroplankton level either. Really I think the worst levels were the ones that were just taking designs straight out of other games without a whole lot of effort to translate them into suitable Smash Bros. stages.

[Roto13]

I appreciate the old-school attempt but really they don't translate that well into Brawl levels.

It's true about Mario Bros. They basically needed to add a new gameplay mechanic just to make it playable. :P That means the character that gets to the downed enemies first (whoever's fastest) wins. That's no good.

I like 75m, though. It's nice and big and open. :P

New Pork City is kind of a disaster. It's almost impossible to see what's going on. The stage is too huge to have such a busy-looking background. Items just kind of get lost against it, never to be seen again.

[Siegfried]

Meta Knight all the way, cant be stopped.
And can anyone fix my internet problem for the sucker, I keep trying but I cannot connect

[Roto13]

Npd Group: Smash Bros. Dojos Past The Competition To Take #1 Spot In March (http://kotaku.com/381169/smash-bros-dojos-past-the-competition-to-take-1-spot-in-march)

[Evastio]

That's really awesome. :D

Any news about it surpassing Halo 3?

[Rase]

According to VGChartz Brawl's total is 4.10 million (http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6962), while Halo 3 is at 7.59 million (http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6964). I dunno about their reliability though, so yeah.

[Evastio]

Those were some awesome matches ljkkjlcm9 and Leen-Leen. :D

I hope my repetitive grabbing tactics didn't get too annoying. Hopefully I'll be able to face the rest of you eventually. Maybe we could even have that 3 on 1 match with me versing Sonic, Snake, and Toon Link. :D

Wait, why am I happy about it? I'll probably lose that match. :shifty:

Then again, they don't annoy me as much as they used to. Probably because I've gotten used to them.

According to VGChartz Brawl's total is 4.10 million (http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6962), while Halo 3 is at 7.59 million (http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6964). I dunno about their reliability though, so yeah.
Oh well. Hopefully it'll surpass Halo 3 around the time it comes out in Europe. :rolleyes2

[ljkkjlcm9]

Smash bros hasn't been out nearly as long as Halo 3... and we're sad it hasn't passed it yet?

your grabbing got very predictable towards the end. I'd actually use my shield to bait you into trying to grab me.

THE JACKEL

[.:kerrod:.]

aaaaaargh...all of this multiplayer talk is making me antsy, i want it noooow (don't care how, i want it now! i want the woooorld, i want the WHOLE world....charlie and the chocolate factory? anybody? *cough*) :( how much longer must i wait?!

and come on people, who cares about sales? some of the best games ever have only sold a few hundred/thousand copies, it doesn't mean the games any less enjoyable :p

[ljkkjlcm9]

well Smash bros sold systems too


March 2008 U.S. Hardware Sales
Wii – 721k
Nintendo DS – 698k
PlayStation Portable – 297k
Xbox 360 – 262k
PlayStation 3 – 257k
PlayStation 2 – 216k

and it's kinda funny how the PS2 outsells the 360 and the PS3


2008 Year-to-Date U.S. Hardware Sales
Nintendo DS – 1559.6k
Wii – 1404k
PlayStation 2 – 831.8k
PlayStation 3 – 806.8k
PlayStation Portable – 770.1k
Xbox 360 – 746.6k

and if the PS2 keeps at that, it'll stay the number 1 selling system for awhile

Approximate Lifetime-to-Date U.S. Hardware Sales
PlayStation 2 – 41.9 million
Nintendo DS – 19.1 million
PlayStation Portable – 11.3 million
Xbox 360 – 9.9 million
Wii – 8.8 million
PlayStation 3 – 4.1 million

but basically my point of these stats was to point out how much bigger Nintendo is getting. And 2.7 mil copies of Brawl is nearly 1/3 of the US market of Wii systems.

THE JACKEL

[Roto13]

I don't see how you can say Brawl sold Wiis when Wiis have been consistently sold out since launch.

[Evastio]

your grabbing got very predictable towards the end. I'd actually use my shield to bait you into trying to grab me.
No wonder my grabs kept missing.

Smash bros hasn't been out nearly as long as Halo 3... and we're sad it hasn't passed it yet?

who cares about sales? some of the best games ever have only sold a few hundred/thousand copies, it doesn't mean the games any less enjoyable :p
I guess you guys are right. Still, it's kind of strange to see Microsoft's best console game (Halo 3) surpassing Nintendo's best console game (Super Smash Bros. Brawl) when Nintendo has been in the console gaming industry a lot longer than Microsoft.

aaaaaargh...all of this multiplayer talk is making me antsy, i want it noooow (don't care how, i want it now! i want the woooorld, i want the WHOLE world....charlie and the chocolate factory? anybody? *cough*) :( how much longer must i wait?!
I remember Ultima Shadow saying that it's one more month for Europe. I can't completely confirm that though.

[ljkkjlcm9]

I don't see how you can say Brawl sold Wiis when Wiis have been consistently sold out since launch.

Because I personally know friends that went out and bought a Wii for Brawl right after it was released.

THE JACKEL

[Roto13]

Your own personal anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything.

There are probably a ton of people who bought a Wii for Brawl, but you can't just guess it's true and then post a bunch of numbers that are consistent with what the Wii has been doing since launch and call it proof.

[Evastio]

I just randomly got the idea to make a song about the Subspace Emissary:

(it's basically a spoof of the Zaboomafoo song)

While fighting in the stadium one day
Mario and Kirby saw something strange
A gigantic halberd that liked to shoot out shadow bugs
They followed this weird flying ship
That had Meta Knight mask at its tip
The Smash Brothers were headed just around the bend
Where're they going? I don't know
How do we get there? Come on let's go!
Me and you and Tabuu!
Coming along to see what's new
We're doing the things that Smash Brothers do
New Smash Brother friends to see
"This World" is the place to be!
Mario and Pit fighting Primids by the bunch
Captain Falcon striking ROB with a Falcon Punch!
Me and you and Tabuu!
Coming along to see what's new
We're doing the things that Smash Brothers do
Me and you and Tabuu!
Coming along to see what's new
In "This World" we're waiting for you!

[KentaRawr!]

o_O

Woahness.

[.:kerrod:.]

i want to read that song (no matter how crappy i know it will be :p) but i don't want to ruin ALL of the surprises, i already know the characters and the stages, but i'll leave the 'story' (notice the inverted commas :p) a secret to me...i already ruined part of it by accidentally finding out about Pokey as a boss :( but ah well...

as for the release date, most gaming sites say about June, but if it was scheduled for a June release surely there would be a concrete date, seeing as it's already May...I'm going to say i'll be waiting at least 2 or 3 more months, but i REALLY hope not :(

EDIT: i want you to load this video, then go to 4:10 and tell me what Zero Suit Samus does:

YouTube - Smash Bros Brawl COMPREHENSIVE Moveset - Samus & Zero Suit (http://youtube.com/watch?v=NBVsU2UZqwY)

now people told me that her third jump was her whip (which goes to the nearest stage side, like her grapple, if it will reach), which could explain that part in the video, however, she appears to do a third jump, as she flashes when she's doing it (a typical 'up+b' trait) and THEN grapples to the edge...i was just wondering if she was one of those few who could still attack after the up+b attack (mr. game and watch is the only one i've heard of who can do this) and then uses her grapple to recover. Could somebody clear this up for me?
Summary :p :
1. Is Zamus' up+b a third jump or a whip-to-stage move?
2. Can she attack after her up+b jump (like Game & Watch)?

[CloudDragon]

I love this game.

Likes: Toon Link, Meta Knight, Pikachu, Zelda/Sheik, Mr. Game & Watch, Captain Falcon, Samus, Luigi, Jigglypuff, Sonic, and lots of others!

Dislikes: Olimar, Ice Climbers

[ljkkjlcm9]

now people told me that her third jump was her whip (which goes to the nearest stage side, like her grapple, if it will reach), which could explain that part in the video, however, she appears to do a third jump, as she flashes when she's doing it (a typical 'up+b' trait) and THEN grapples to the edge...i was just wondering if she was one of those few who could still attack after the up+b attack (mr. game and watch is the only one i've heard of who can do this) and then uses her grapple to recover. Could somebody clear this up for me?
Summary :p :
1. Is Zamus' up+b a third jump or a whip-to-stage move?
2. Can she attack after her up+b jump (like Game & Watch)?

alright. A good number of characters can do regular A attacks after their up+B. Off the top of my head, both Sonic and Snake can, as can ROB.

Secondly, ZSS has a Down+B move where she does a flip over a person. Her Up+B will grab onto the edge of a stage if you're below the level of it. Her side+B move will grab it if you're about even with it. If you're above it, you're better off using the Down+B flip to recover. I never really use the Up+B move to recover, as most hits send you well above the level of the stage, so I'm unsure if she can attack again after using it... but chances are if you're using it in the air and not above ground, it's to grab the stage.

THE JACKEL

[Monol]

There are three characters that have "tether" Up B's (Well technically there are 4 but I'll explain that in a bit)

Olimar and ivysaur's up B's put them into a "free fall state" (meaning you cant do squat once their up B's are used) but zero suit can actually multi tether cause her side B AND Up B can tether as well. She is the only character that can use her Up B (thats a tether) and still tether again.

Ice climbers up B is technically considered a tether recovery but they at least have over B still as a recovery option.

This information is important kerrod because tether recoverys can be gimped in this game. As a ivysaur lover and main this is the most tragic news ever. However your gonna find olimar to be pretty durn annoying so just grab the ledge any time you knock him off. He wont be able to sweetspot because your already occupying the stage. Oh and Zero suit samus is soooo cool. Have fun with her ey? ;)

[Evastio]

Ice climbers up B is technically considered a tether recovery but they at least have over B still as a recovery option.
It's only a tether recovery if you're close enough and underneath a ledge. Otherwise it'll do the same thing as it did in Melee.

o_O

Woahness.
What's so wrong with my song?
i want to read that song (no matter how crappy i know it will be :p) but i don't want to ruin ALL of the surprises, i already know the characters and the stages, but i'll leave the 'story' (notice the inverted commas :p) a secret to me...i already ruined part of it by accidentally finding out about Pokey as a boss :( but ah well...

It isn't that bad. It rhymes quite a lot and it's quite catchy. The only thing it does spoil is the name of a Subspace Emissary character and one thing Captain Falcon does to another character.

[.:kerrod:.]

alriiiiight, i sorta get it :p, but if you do the up+b above the stage, does she do that flippy jump thing in that movie? and if so, she MUST be able to attack after her up+b, cos she still grapples the edge...

[ljkkjlcm9]

alriiiiight, i sorta get it :p, but if you do the up+b above the stage, does she do that flippy jump thing in that movie? and if so, she MUST be able to attack after her up+b, cos she still grapples the edge...

I told you Down+B does the flip, if you attack during it she just does a kick. But after she flips to an equal height to where you started, you can attack with anything.
Zero Suit Samus- Dojo (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/zerosuit_samus.html)

THE JACKEL

[CloudDragon]

Is the online play troubled by horrible lag? I haven't attempted to try it yet.

Also I recently discovered that Jigglypuff's special goes beyond it blowing up real big and that you can actually stay that big and attack characters. The problem is I have no idea how I was able to do that. My question is does anyone know how you stay big?

[Akaria]

Also I recently discovered that Jigglypuff's special goes beyond it blowing up real big and that you can actually stay that big and attack characters. The problem is I have no idea how I was able to do that. My question is does anyone know how you stay big?
Me and my friends did that once...I think one of them said it was a glitch in the super smash. Sometimes Jigglypuff will blow up that big and attack other characters, and sometimes it will be the standard super smash. I don't know why it does that or how frequently or anything, so don't quote me on anything:p

[CloudDragon]

I just read up on it and apparently it's a glitch that can only be done on the Bridge of Eldin. You have to use Jigglypuff's final smash in the area where the bridge is broken and Jigglypuff will collide with it and stay big. Attack and speed all stay the same and it's really easy to walk or fly off a level.

[.:kerrod:.]

yeah, it's just a glitch, i'm pretty sure you shouldn't be able to do it...i saw a video where they were playing as jiggly on that bridge stage (from twilight princess, with that king guy running across) and when the middle of the bridge broke/fell down, they got a smash ball and waited for the portal thing at the top to rebuild it...as it was dropping the pieces into place, they jumped in the middle and used the final smash. When the bridge was complete, jiggly was on top, still big, and able to fight...try that if you want :D :p

and jackel, i know you told me that, i did get that, sorry, i was just wondering if she did that flip when you're ABOVE the stage if you press up+b (AS WELL AS down+b), like in the clip...you see, i'm confused as to what she does when you press up+b above the stage in the air, i know that on the ground she throws her whip up, but does it do the same in the air?
Up+b Air Above: ?
Up+b Air Below: latch to stage
Up+b Ground: whip vertical

[ljkkjlcm9]

it does the exact same thing in the air, and if you actually jump out under an enemy in the air and do it before they reach the stage, it can be an effective meteor smash.

THE JACKEL

[.:kerrod:.]

cool, thanks a lot, sorry i was so difficult :p

[Roto13]

For you handful of Europeans who haven't imported it yet. xP

Super Smash Bros: Smash Bros. Gets Official European Release Date (http://kotaku.com/383467/smash-bros-gets-official-european-release-date)

[.:kerrod:.]

so how long will Australia get it after them? :( are we included in that release because we're PAL or what? :confused: if it's gonna be too much longer i'm just importing it :mad:

[Markus. D]

I feel like I've almost waited out for tooooo long.

[Breine]

For you handful of Europeans who haven't imported it yet. xP

Super Smash Bros: Smash Bros. Gets Official European Release Date (http://kotaku.com/383467/smash-bros-gets-official-european-release-date)

Ugh, I really dislike being European when it comes to game releases.

[Levian]

When I buy this game I will keep it under my armpit to keep it warm. mm my precious baby.

[Evastio]

When I buy this game I will keep it under my armpit to keep it warm. mm my precious baby.
I always thought you were more of a first person shooter gamer or a sports gamer. :confused:

[Levian]

You must have me confused with someone else xD Maybe that whorebag Psychotic. I generally find those genres boring, but there are of course exceptions.

I'm a Survival Horror/Mystery/Puzzle/Adventure kind of guy.

[Roto13]

You must have me confused with someone else xD Maybe that whorebag Psychotic.

It's pretty hard to tell you guys apart. You're practically the same.

[KentaRawr!]

Levian is actually just Psychotic's alternate account. Don't let them fool you.

[Levian]

I registered first. :cool:

[KentaRawr!]

I registered first. :cool:

No, you made the account Psychotic, and then went back in time to create Levian.

[Evastio]

You must have me confused with someone else xD Maybe that whorebag Psychotic.
I guess you're right. You're more of a Nintendo fan than him. No offense Psychotic.

Also, I guess I'll bring up this weird issue I had: Has anyone had their replays altered before? There was this replay that I saved on a custom level where Bowser and Olimar got to do their Final Smashes and killed themselves with it. It was working just fine a few weeks ago. Now that replay doesn't even show them doing their Final Smashes and it just has everyone killing themselves. It can't be a different replay since the date on that replay is the same. :confused:

[Roto13]

It hasn't happened to me (I don't really save a lot of replays) but apparently that happens sometimes. It doesn't record actual video, just button presses. If even one button press screws up, it can mess up the whole replay. Copying to an SD card might have something to do with it, but I dunno.

[JaytodaP]

Hmm, seems like a lot of you are playing.....

Maybe we could try to set up a tournament some time.

I'll post my friend code sometime later today or tomorrow.

[.:kerrod:.]

:crying2: I want to exchange friend codes and brawl people :crying2: as soon as i get brawl i'm hoarding friend codes and throwing mine around like a slut, i'll brawl 'til my fingers fall off, damn it! :mad2:

[Evastio]

It hasn't happened to me (I don't really save a lot of replays) but apparently that happens sometimes. It doesn't record actual video, just button presses. If even one button press screws up, it can mess up the whole replay. Copying to an SD card might have something to do with it, but I dunno.
So I'm not alone with this problem. That's quite strange though. Then how come replays of matches with items on aren't affected? :confused:

I know it's just one replay but still, it was the funniest one that I recorded (Gray Fox repeatedly falling off the level, Bowser and Olimar commiting suicide with their final smashes, and me as Olimar picking up Pikmin without realizing they were falling off the level).

[.:kerrod:.]

ARGH! poo! i was thinking 'well only about a month to the EUR release of Brawl', but we're only in APRIL, meaning it's TWO months :crying2: this whole 'waiting' thing is reeeeeeally getting old, i might not buy it when it IS released just to boycott Nintendo :rolleyes2 :tongue: as if that would ever happen

[Markus. D]

I guess we can play Mario Kart Wii, while we wait?

I heard it's pretty nostalgic (:D!).

[.:kerrod:.]

yeah, i was thinkin of getting that, but i have a list of about 20 games that i want to buy cos i just bought my wii recently, so im a bit behind in the games department :p i think metroid prime 3: corruption is next, oh, how i love metroid :bigsmile:

in fact, i think i'm gonna change my sig to a samus-themed one, because on earthbound right now (for those who've played it) i'm just in that stonehenge area searching for the fabled "Sword of Kings" for 'Kai' (yes, KAI, i refuse to call him 'Poo', i mean, wtf man?) but yeah, that's turned me off playing cos it's so boring every time i fire it up :rolleyes2 and yes, i KNOW i don't need it, but i want it, and im not yet strong enough to just go through killing everybody one hit, soooo yeah...now im playing metroid fusion instead, and i just finished zero mission :)(much better in my opinion), oh, and mario galaxy, of course...

well THAT was a random tangent :p sorry to have wasted your precious time

[Evastio]

Yesterday I finished collecting all of the boss trophies. :D

Well, except for some like Winged Tabuu and the Porky Statue. I got all of the ones you get using trophy stands though.

Strangely enough, Petey Pirahna and Duon took the longest to get their trophies. Although Meta Ridley and Tabuu are the two last bosses I got them quite quickly compared to the former two. If it wasn't for the fact that I let the Meta Ridley trophy fall of the level I could've got it a lot quicker. For Tabuu I spent a lot of time waiting around for a trophy stand to appear.

[ljkkjlcm9]

after I unlocked all the music, stages, and characters, I didn't care about getting anything else. So I still have a bunch of challenges to do, and I didn't get a single boss trophy. Doing stuff like that actually sucks the fun out of the game imo. It's a great game and tons of fun, but when you have to play hardcore single player to do stuff, it's not very fun anymore. AKA, beat classic, all star, 100 man melee and boss mode with all characters. That is anti my definition of fun. That's just tedious

THE JACKEL

[qwertysaur]

after I unlocked all the music, stages, and characters, I didn't care about getting anything else. So I still have a bunch of challenges to do, and I didn't get a single boss trophy. Doing stuff like that actually sucks the fun out of the game imo. It's a great game and tons of fun, but when you have to play hardcore single player to do stuff, it's not very fun anymore. AKA, beat classic, all star, 100 man melee and boss mode with all characters. That is anti my definition of fun. That's just tedious

THE JACKAL
I'm just letting my friends do that stuff for me.:p

[ljkkjlcm9]

after I unlocked all the music, stages, and characters, I didn't care about getting anything else. So I still have a bunch of challenges to do, and I didn't get a single boss trophy. Doing stuff like that actually sucks the fun out of the game imo. It's a great game and tons of fun, but when you have to play hardcore single player to do stuff, it's not very fun anymore. AKA, beat classic, all star, 100 man melee and boss mode with all characters. That is anti my definition of fun. That's just tedious

THE JACKAL
I'm just letting my friends do that stuff for me.:p

lol good plan. Except my other friends who like the game own it themselves. And on top of that, I'm better than all my friends here, so it's much faster if I do it myself. I mean, I play the game on occasion, less now that I have mario kart, but I usually beat classic everytime I turn it on. After I do it with every character, I'll move onto all star. etc etc

It'll get done eventually, I'm just not in a rush to do those things, like I was to unlock the things that actually make multiplayer better.

THE JACKEL

[Roto13]

I haven't gotten any of the Boss trophies either. xD I do have over 500 trophies, though.

As for the challenges, I'm missing Beat Boss Battles on Hard/Very Hard/Assrape difficulties, and Get All Stickers. I have the rest of them unlocked. And have had them unlocked for quite some time.

[Evastio]

As for the challenges, I'm missing Beat Boss Battles on Hard/Very Hard/Assrape difficulties, and Get All Stickers.
Don't even get me started on Boss Battles on Intense Mode. I haven't defeated it on Very Hard or Intense yet. I got killed on the first boss every time I've tried it on Intense Mode with Marth (my best character) before I could even get the boss' HP to 1/2. :yuck:

As for stickers, I've actually only enabled Sandbags and put items on High so I can get a lot of them and complete my collection.

after I unlocked all the music, stages, and characters, I didn't care about getting anything else. So I still have a bunch of challenges to do, and I didn't get a single boss trophy. Doing stuff like that actually sucks the fun out of the game imo. It's a great game and tons of fun, but when you have to play hardcore single player to do stuff, it's not very fun anymore. AKA, beat classic, all star, 100 man melee and boss mode with all characters. That is anti my definition of fun. That's just tedious
You could do All Star on Co-op Mode with your friends to get all of the Final Smash Trophies. Of course, there's a few All Star challenges that have to be done on single player. :(

I guess I can see why you don't find it fun, but I personally think it's kind of fun knowing that you still have a challenge out there that you need to accomplish. Seeing a closed window on the Challenges Board just waiting to be shattered by completing it's goal is enough to motivate me to try to clear that Challenge.

Well, except for the really insane ones like defeating the 100 Man Brawl with everyone and defeating Boss Battles on Intense Mode (poor Marth :(). But getting boss trophies with my buddies helping me out was quite fun (even if they weren't the best at dodging the bosses' attacks). The feeling of accomplishment from getting a Boss Trophy was worth the effort. Especially when it came to turning Tabuu into a trophy. :D

On a side not I defeated the 15 Minute Brawl on Saturday and got the Green Alloy trophy. :D

[.:kerrod:.]

same...
anyway, i want a real person's opinion instead of reviews and game sites, etc. Is the online play really bad and laggy?

i know your internet speed, etc. matter, but if you and the other person/people have a relatively good connection, should it play well?

[Evastio]

It's not as bad as some people claim it is. Although it can get quite choppy the match usually doesn't freeze up for more than one second. It can mess up moves that require a lot of accuracy and timing. (such as Ness' PK Thunder Recovery and Luigi's Flaming Uppercut)

But if you're lucky enough to have a really good connection (like the one I had when I first versed ljkkjlcm9 online) the matches are so smooth you probably wouldn't be able to tell that it was an online match since it's just as smooth as an offline match.

[Zeldy]

Most of the time it'll be alright, but sometimes it'll be quite slow and it seems like it's taking your character a super loooong time to just kick somebody; this could be because I'm accessing non-European servers in Europe, though :p

Does no one else lose them self whilst playing online? as in, getting confused which character is you until you're flying off the track? It's always so intense that I'm all WOAAH WHERE AM I *button bash*

[Roto13]

Why did it take me a month to find out about this trick (http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=157981)?

[Evastio]

Wow. That trick would sure make for some really awesome snapshots. :D

We should have a funniest snapshot competition on EoFF one time. Even though most of them aren't that amusing (like that Pik-Man photo I mailed to Roto with a Pikmin replacing Marth's head). I've also got some other ones like the Mario Bros. rocking out at the 8 PM concert, the Nintendog getting shot at with the Dragoon, Mario, Luigi, and Yoshi going sliding in the snow, and R.O.B. hitching a ride on Wario's Bike.

[.:kerrod:.]

haha,you should post a few of those :p nothin' beats a good screenshot :tongue: although it DOES make you realize the real limitations of the Wii, seeing as two characters are usually fused together or through each other :mad: :p

BTW: i see people exchanging 'Brawl' friend codes on other forums and they're only 3 lots of 4 numbers (XXXX-XXXX-XXXX), instead of the usual 'Wii' friend codes, which are four lots of four numbers (XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX), so do you get a special 'Brawl' one when you buy the game or what?

[Roto13]

You get a special friend code for all online Wii games. The friend code for your console is just for sending messages and stuff from Wii to Wii.

[Shoeberto]

Which is really dumb. It doesn't really make sense why you can't just have a centralized FC.

[Evastio]

haha,you should post a few of those :p nothin' beats a good screenshot :tongue:
I don't have an SD Card for it. :(

[Roto13]

I can do it for you, if you want.

[.:kerrod:.]

yeah, centralized FC FTW. There is absolutely no sense in changing it all the time :mad: i must have looked like quite the fool when i suggested swapping codes now for when it's released (to Monol) seeing as i won't have one until that day :p my bad...i hope this thread's still going in june :( you won't leave me, will you guys?......guys?!

[Monol]

Unless I missed somthing you didnt make yourself look like a fool in the least bit. Last time I checked we can still swap friend codes and still play the game. Unless otherwise then it is I that is the fool :p.

On that note...im not going anywhere for a looong time.
Heck I still play melee a ton and intend to do the same for brawl :cool:

[Evastio]

I can do it for you, if you want.
Thanks. :D

i hope this thread's still going in june :( you won't leave me, will you guys?......guys?!
I wouldn't. Even though a lot of other people might you'll have fellow Europeans to Brawl against. I'm more than sure that the staff will allow this thread to be revived when Brawl comes out in Europe. Either that or they'll allow a new Brawl thread.


Heck I still play melee a ton and intend to do the same for brawl :cool:
Sheesh, I haven't played Melee at all ever since I got Brawl.

The first match I'm probably going to have on Melee will be using Pichu on Final Destination (alternate music) or on Mute City. Seeing Melee things that I liked that didn't make it in Brawl will be nice. :D

...yeah. I guess it'd be redundant if Pichu, Mute City, (seeing as how Port Town is basically the same) and the Multi Man Melee 2 music (same as the Melee Opening music on Final Destination) did make it in. I still really liked them though. Besides, I don't really find the Melee Opening music as epic as the Multi Man Melee 2 music.

[KentaRawr!]

We interrupt this conversation to bring you a funny looking picture.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj159/link2k4/tooslo-.gif

[Evastio]

We interrupt this conversation to bring you a funny looking picture.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj159/link2k4/tooslo-.gif
(resists the urge to laugh) I'll admit that's quite funny but...

Although I still don't completely like Sonic being in Brawl I think it's somewhat mean making fun of his newest game even before it's coming out.

So I was wondering, how are you guys at Meteor Smashing? I didn't try it out much in Melee but I'm quite decent at it in Brawl. I find R.O.B.'s and Falco's Meteor Smashes the easiest to hit with.

[ljkkjlcm9]

We interrupt this conversation to bring you a funny looking picture.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj159/link2k4/tooslo-.gif
(resists the urge to laugh) I'll admit that's quite funny but...

Although I still don't completely like Sonic being in Brawl I think it's somewhat mean making fun of his newest game even before it's coming out.

So I was wondering, how are you guys at Meteor Smashing? I didn't try it out much in Melee but I'm quite decent at it in Brawl. I find R.O.B.'s and Falco's Meteor Smashes the easiest to hit with.

Wolf's meteor smash is hard to get off, but I've done it a number of times. Diddy is quite easy to meteor smash with as well. ZSS can use the Up+B and catch people trying to recover over her and meteor smash them. Then of course theirs Ike and Kirby's Up B on the edge as well. For Mario, I've always preferred using the cape... basically best edge guard in the game.

THE JACKEL

[.:kerrod:.]

i've tried a few on melee, but i was pretty unsuccessful...i can never get the right timing. Who's easiest to meteor smash with on melee?

[Shoeberto]

What's meteor smashing?

[Roto13]

An attack that sends people flying straight down. Obviously very useful when edge guarding. :P

[Monol]

There is spiking and then there is meteor smashing.

Spikes send you flying down and you cant recover while meteors you can. In melee theres only a handful of characters that can spike and im not sure about brawl. Falco in melees is the easiest to pull off though. I find it rather difficult in brawl so props to evastio.

I love charizards and toonlinks though. Diddys is also really fun along with lucas's. Never was a big fan of the cape...especially in brawl seeing how players dont have to be facing the same direction of the ledge to grab it so I dont find it all that useful. Plus I think the hit box got smaller...

Oh well meteors are fun :D one of my favorite aspects of smash actually (I looove edgeguarding)

[Evastio]

ZSS can use the Up+B and catch people trying to recover over her and meteor smash them.
You can meteor smash people with that? So far whenever I've tried that I just end up helping them get back onto the stage.

An attack that sends people flying straight down. Obviously very useful when edge guarding. :P
Unless of course you kill yourself doing it. It happened way too much in Melee for me.

I haven't killed myself in Brawl doing it so far. I find meteor smashing before doing your mid air jump helps increase your chances of not killing yourself. With some characters (like R.O.B. who's one of my best characters) it doesn't make much of a difference since their recovery is still decent even after using a mid air jump. I sometimes also just stay on the stage and jump and do a meteor smash then. That way you have absolutely no chance of killing yourself.

[Masamunemaster]

Dancing blade was my fav meteor smash for melee...B+Down Bx2 is my fav bc it can hit more than once and you can do it in mid-air

[ljkkjlcm9]

ZSS can use the Up+B and catch people trying to recover over her and meteor smash them.
You can meteor smash people with that? So far whenever I've tried that I just end up helping them get back onto the stage.

Try jumping off the edge and doing it, rather than standing there. If you're on the stage, you have to hit it perfectly. But if you jump off under them, but still above the edge of the stage, she'll use it. Then use your second jump and Down+B to recover.

Fox had the best edge guard in melee with his reflector.

THE JACKEL

[Evastio]

Oh yeah. I forgot that she can still move after doing her Up B.

Also, does anyone know how you're supposed to meteor smash with Luigi, Lucario, Snake, Mr. Game & Watch, and Sonic? The first three always just end up sending people up or to the side when I use their down B while the last two always send people flying to the side.

[Monol]

Im pretty sure sonic doesnt have one.

GnW had his key spike in the last game but im not sure its back in brawl.

Snakes Foward air meteors at the end (the ax kick of death :p)

I think lucarios has a sweetspot but im not sure on that (i dont use him)

And luigis meteor is his taunt of course. Only taunt that does damage :D (At least physical damage)

[.:kerrod:.]

Luigi's taunt?! can you even do that in the air? :confused: i can't envisage how that could possibly work as a meteor smash :p I'd like to see it done, just out of interest...and G&W still has his key spike doesn't he? it's just that if you miss when meteor smashing it's instant death :tongue: hell, even if you hit them good you'll probably still plummet to your bloody end...

Personally, I'm really looking forward to playing as Luigi...he looks badass :cool: and that's unfortunate for sonic ^^^ just another thing to add to the 'sonic sucks' list...i wouldn't think he's THAT bad, but the reports aren't good...

EDIT: well here's Luigi's taunt meteor smash, but it's set up, and that situation is extremely unlikely to occur long enough for anybody to meteor smash them :p :

YouTube - Super Smash Brothers Brawl - Luigi Taunt Spike (http://youtube.com/watch?v=PVhvzzpRdJo)

i'd still like to know if he has an air one...

[Evastio]

Mr. Game & Watch's down air attack just sends people to the side now instead of straight down.

As for Luigi I heard his down air is also suppose to meteor smash people but I'm not sure what part of it (like the feet, knees, etc) performs the meteor smash.

[Monol]

I melee luigis meteor was one of the weird ones where you had to be below the person to send them flying down...so weird but extremly satisfying when you pulled it off.

[.:kerrod:.]

below them?! i was playing it this afternoon, actually, and i was Luigi for the most part of it, and i was trying his down+a to see what i could get out of it...i saw it a few times where the foe got meteor smashed but it was hectic and i couldn't see exactly what happened...but i kept getting 'meteor smash' points in the....end...thingy :p you know where it says the winner and all the different awards and penalties? anyway, if it's the same in brawl, then it has something to do with his down a, but as Monol said, it could be something wierd...

[Roto13]

Evastio, have you sent me all of the screenshots you want me to convert for you?

[Evastio]

So you guys also don't know how Luigi's down air meteor smash works. This sucks, seeing as how most of my mains have mid-air meteor smashes that I can hit with except for him.

Evastio, have you sent me all of the screenshots you want me to convert for you?
I'll probably send in three more snapshots before Sunday evening.

[Roto13]

Alright. Just let me know when you're done and I'll do them all at once.

[Elite Lord Sigma]

2062-9110-4532 is my friend code. Anyone who wants a match had better speak up now, because I'm leaving soon.

[Markus. D]

YouTube - Jigglypuff + Fan = This (http://youtube.com/watch?v=T6Lex47I7SI) is this infinite?

[Roto13]

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/rotothirteen/Smash%20Bros%20Brawl%20Screenshots/9cf42182fdc6bf26.jpg

:P

[.:kerrod:.]

alright, so here's what i think i saw with Luigi (in melee, it may have changed for brawl)...i use his down smash a lot in the air and i'm PRETTY sure i saw a meteor smash when it connected with the bottom of his feet (about .5 of a second after i executed it :p)...which would seem logical, but people are saying how it's different and you hit them from below ( :confused: ) up there ^^^ so i'm not sure, but that's what i thought i saw

[Evastio]

That's an awesome screenshot Roto. :D

I should come up with more funny original screenshots like that.

alright, so here's what i think i saw with Luigi (in melee, it may have changed for brawl)...i use his down smash a lot in the air and i'm PRETTY sure i saw a meteor smash when it connected with the bottom of his feet (about .5 of a second after i executed it :p)...which would seem logical, but people are saying how it's different and you hit them from below ( :confused: ) up there ^^^ so i'm not sure, but that's what i thought i saw
I think you're right about that. I also experimented with Luigi's air down attack and found out that the heel of his foot seems to be the one meteor smashing although it doesn't work all of the time. I think that's where your 0.5 second lag comes in.

So basically if Luigi's facing left:

/.

That slash is Luigi facing left and the period is where you're supposed to sweetspot his air down A. You hit with it half a second after he does it and it's a meteor smash. I think.

Also, Roto helped me transfer some of my snapshots. So here they are!! (* means I/my brother planned out making the screenshot, ^ means the picture purely happened by coincidence)

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/rotothirteen/Smash%20Bros%20Brawl%20Screenshots/d4e2a3c08dc51614.jpg
It's a bird!! It's a plane!! It's Pik-man!! ^

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/rotothirteen/Smash%20Bros%20Brawl%20Screenshots/cbb02543d242d538.jpg
I don't really have a funny caption for this one. I just took it since I thought it looked cool. *

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/rotothirteen/Smash%20Bros%20Brawl%20Screenshots/833617de5e3f23b7.jpg
It's just like the good old NES days playing Duck Hunt. ^

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/rotothirteen/Smash%20Bros%20Brawl%20Screenshots/72492e5875e4377d.jpg
This one isn't mine. But since Roto converted it I decided I might as well show it to you guys.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/rotothirteen/Smash%20Bros%20Brawl%20Screenshots/464b0f322dd924e5.jpg
This is probably why Meta Knight's ship is a flying ship opposed to a sailing ship. *

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/rotothirteen/Smash%20Bros%20Brawl%20Screenshots/272622bdefba67d5.jpg
The Mario Bros. are rocking out at KK's concert. (I actually have this as my Computer background now) *

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/rotothirteen/Smash%20Bros%20Brawl%20Screenshots/23fd7e31344e32b6.jpg
Groudon vs. the Ultimate Chimera!! Who'll win? ^

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/rotothirteen/Smash%20Bros%20Brawl%20Screenshots/060db5af57cd1e0d.jpg
This was actually my brother's idea for a screenshot. He wanted to do an ET picture with ET riding the boy's bike running away from the police. Although it didn't turn out the way he wanted it to it's still quite funny. *

Also, I think we should have a funny snapshot contest.

[KentaRawr!]

That Luigi one is mine. :p

[Roto13]

That makes sense. xP I knew someone besides me took it.

[.:kerrod:.]

oooh, a screenshot competition would be great (even though i can't enter -_-) i vote yes!

so far i think the nintendog one is funniest, with the dragoon (?) crosshair on its head :p and the caption is great

and on the Luigi thing, Evastio, that sounds about right, because that seems to be what's been happening for me :)

[Roto13]

I'd enter. And I can upload screenshots for anyone who can't do it themselves.

Any Australians in the house? :P

Super Smash Bros Brawl (http://kotaku.com/390231/)

[Shoeberto]

I've had Brawl since release, but it wasn't until now that I could really play it online, so here's my FC:
5412-9698-2127

I added a bunch of people to my list, but I got kind of tired of writing them down so I skipped out on some of them. But yeah, feel free to add me. Brawling online is pretty fun even if it's pretty laggy.

edit: Is anyone interested in an EoFF Brawl tournament?

[.:kerrod:.]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!
take THAT Europe! aaaah MAN, i can't WAIT!

Thanks roto, just in case i hadn't whinged enough, or you didn't work it out from my excessive excitement, i'm an Australian, and i'm in the house :p

it's still 43 days :( but oh well, yay for me!

and i'm totally down for an EoFF tournament if i can get the game before you start it :p which is highly unlikely, now that i think about it :spin:

[Monol]

EoFF tourney sounds great Hsu :)

[JKTrix]

Though I haven't played Brawl in quite a stretch, I'd like to participate in the tournament.

[qwertysaur]

I would be for an EoFF Brawl Tournament. :D

[ljkkjlcm9]

I suppose I would do one as well

but might I suggest two types...

individual and pairs?

THE JACKEL

[Evastio]

Although there's a lot of EoFFers that are better at Brawl than me, I guess I'd join a Brawl tournament.

As for the team tournament that sounds like an awesome idea, even though I have no idea who to choose as my partner.

[Shoeberto]

I'll go ahead and make a thread about it :)

[Markus. D]

I'd enter. And I can upload screenshots for anyone who can't do it themselves.

Any Australians in the house? :P

Super Smash Bros Brawl (http://kotaku.com/390231/)

YEY~

[Evastio]

Those were some fun matches NeoCracker.

Basically I was Aviro. The Ice Climbers and R.O.B. are two of my best characters which would explain why they were the only ones I won with. Especially in that Pokemon Stadium 2 match where I killed myself with DK (one of my worst characters) twice.

[.:kerrod:.]

ice climbers? i've tried to be good with them, but Nana always dies before i can do a decent amount of damage and that not only halves my attacks, but takes away my third jump, so i always die :p i'd LIKE to be good with them, but it's not gonna happen (this is on melee, by the way)

[qwertysaur]

Yeah, the AI for nana can be stupid sometimes. Once when I was playing them, nana threw a smart bomb at me, and killed me with it.

[NeoCracker]

I embaracingly killed myself with Metaknight at Hyrule. :p

Though nothing beat the sweet, sweet sound of hearing "Bowser Wins" as I kicked but with him. :p

[Evastio]

ice climbers? i've tried to be good with them, but Nana always dies before i can do a decent amount of damage and that not only halves my attacks, but takes away my third jump, so i always die :p i'd LIKE to be good with them, but it's not gonna happen (this is on melee, by the way)
You remind me of me back then when the Ice Climbers were my worst character. Basically the trick with the Ice Climbers is to keep them together, even if it means jumping off the stage and using Belay to rescue Nana. Also, take advantages of their grabs and grab resistance. There's two of them so their grab attacks (pressing A while holding someone) will be twice as effective and you can actually use Nana to side smash your opponent and KO your opponents while Popo is holding them (although it's less effective in Brawl than it was in Melee). You can get Nana to help you to get out of grabs because only one of the Ice Climbers can be grabbed while the other is free to attack. You'll want to stick with their ground attacks since they have much more power and knockback than their aerial attacks, although their down air and neutral air attacks are decent for getting back on the ground and for attacking opponents before they attack you, respectively. Even though most people think the Ice Climber's special attacks are useless that's hardly the case. Their Squall Hammer and Twin Blizzard (using Down B in the air so they send freezing wind in the same direction) is really good for building damage and stopping opponents in their tracks. Their Ice Shot is quite tricky to dodge since there's two Ice Shots and they fall quite fast in the air and Belay is quite a decent vertical finisher if you connect with it.

I embaracingly killed myself with Metaknight at Hyrule. :p

Though nothing beat the sweet, sweet sound of hearing "Bowser Wins" as I kicked but with him. :p
Yeah, it's quite hard to control yourself when you're gliding. I actually killed myself before with Meta Knight's Up B as well.

I'm quite good with Bowser myself. We should have a Bowser match and see who's better with him.

[Kokichi]

Ganondorf is top tier.

But anyway~

It's not fun with no one to play with, or without online play.

I juiced mine out in a week, and though I haven't gotten everything, I don't exactly have the strive to.

But once I get that router? <3

Marth, DeDeDe, and Link ftw, by the way. IMO.

[NeoCracker]

I checked out Smash Boards to see the new Tier Discussions.

So far, it seems Snake is garunteed a place in the Top Tier when the lists start coming out, MetaKnight and Marth are two other possobilities.

Shieks nerfs were enough to where she doesn't seem to be considered Top Tier anymore, and with Marths Buffs and Nerfs, it's arguable.

Not really sure why I mentioned this, as I don't play based on Tiers. (I've wanted to use, and have been using Metaknight since it came out, he just so happens to be a powerful Character. :p)

Of course it's early, and all of this is likely to change soon enough.

I just think it's interesting to look into from time to time. :p

[Avarice-ness]

Yay~ I got a Wii as a wedding present so I bought SSBB today~

Friend code: 3609-1940-8431

*goes off to unlock people*