Would Sephiroth have a chance to return?

[jammi567]

Not that i would actually want him to, but after the events of Advent Children, would he be able to appear as a physical manifestation again. I'm thinking of this because don't Jenova Cells have the ability to replicate a person? And if this is the case, it should be possible, because Sephiroth basically is Jenova.

[Raebus]

Oh don't worry, SE aren't finished whoring him out yet.

[Big D]

I reckon he's probably gone for good, this time.
After FFVII, Jenova was virtually obliterated, reduced to spiritual fragments that got flung far and wide by the Lifestream. Those fragments were mostly done away with when Geostigma was cured. The only remaining Jenova cells were in the likes of Cloud and other SOLDIERs. Jenova's head was the only 'useful' collection of cells that still existed, and that was destroyed after Sephiroth's defeat in AC.
As for Sephiroth... in the game, he was killed. His spirit lived on, but torn into three pieces. All of those pieces faded into nothingness at the end of AC too, so overall I'd say there's not enough left for Sephiroth to re-appear again.
No viable sources of Jenova cells. No coherent residue of Sephiroth's spirit. With neither body nor soul, it'd be awfully hard for him to 'get it together' yet again.

Anything's possible, of course, but the inevitable FFVII sequel will be sure to focus on Genesis Rhapsodos and his brand of mischief-making.

[PuPu]

Rabid FFVII fans will desperately attempt to find a way to bring him back to life. But don't worry, they'll be thwarted by the rabid Aeris fans.

But, to tell you the truth, he probably won't come back again. I think he was killed in FFVII, since the Sephiroth we saw in AC was really only Kadaj, right?

[Vyk]

Posessed by a Sephiroth poltergeist. Yeah

[The Crystal]

At the end of FFVII, everyone thought he was dead because his friggin SOUL was destroyed! But it didn't stop Square-Enix.
The end of AC will not stop them either.



I think he was killed in FFVII, since the Sephiroth we saw in AC was really only Kadaj, right?

Yazoo, Loz and Kadaj are 3 spirit bodies created by Sephiroth to find Jenova's head and bring him back. The Sephiroth at the end of AC was very real.

[Mercen-X]

Kadaj of life, Loz of birth, and Yazoo of death. Wouldn't you agree their personalities seem very overdramatic?

Did it say somewhere that Jenova can't replicate its own cells without another living organism to corrupt and transform?

Why does Jenova have a woman's form as Synthesis? Is it to live up to Sephiroth's delusion that the J is his mother? I mean, it is under his control, right?

[Big D]

Did it say somewhere that Jenova can't replicate its own cells without another living organism to corrupt and transform?I've never heard that one before... any living thing needs to be able to produce new cells, but then Jenova's not like a regular living being, what with being able to survive entombed in the ground for two millennia.
Why does Jenova have a woman's form as Synthesis? Is it to live up to Sephiroth's delusion that the J is his mother? I mean, it is under his control, right?When Professor Gast's team discovered Jenova, she must've been in that female form already. After all, they readily believed they'd discovered the remains of a Cetra.
From what I can tell, Sephiroth didn't directly control Jenova's mind. He was able to manipulate her headless body and use it as a surrogate body for himself while he was trapped at the Northern Cave, but there's little to suggest he directly controlled her conscious mind. He was simply not bound by her direct control, able to determine his own destiny.

[Suvious]

Sephiroth is in like 10 games... He'll be back with 2 masamunes next time lol. He's already got the funky hair, the wicked looks, the EVILE voice, the awesome sword and a wing... Next step! Double his weaponry!

[FFIX Choco Boy]

If they were to bring Sephy back again, he would have been in FF7: DC. I, personally, liked Sephy cause he killed Aeris and I hated her, but he's been in 4 games and 2 movies, I don't think he'll be back again unless it's in Kingdom Hearts 3.

[Jessweeee♪]

He won't, but they could do it if they wanted :p

[Suvious]

Nah Sephiroths not coming back... it'll be his unknown just-as-powerful twin Thephiros.

[Wolf Kanno]

Considering his return in Advent Children was http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif and contradictory of the ending to the game, I'm sure anything is possible if SE needs to make another VII game...

[Suvious]

You wait they'll do the Sephiroth side...

[FFVIFan]

Sephiroth died about many times and he ISN'T gonna return. He returned by manifesting three forms he called his "childs". Mostly a new FFVII game would feature what did Genesis do once he escaped.

And if people are thinking he will do something evil, your wrong, I readed somewhere that Genesis was to return once the world was in perill.

[Kenshin IV]

Of course he does. As long as he spews dollar signs, his chances of returning are pretty much guaranteed.

[jammi567]

Considering his return in Advent Children was :skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull: and contradictory of the ending to the game, I'm sure anything is possible if SE needs to make another VII game...
No it isn't. It makes perfect sense.

[Wolf Kanno]

Considering his return in Advent Children was :skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull: and contradictory of the ending to the game, I'm sure anything is possible if SE needs to make another VII game...
No it isn't. It makes perfect sense.

And how's that my young friend? ;)

[jammi567]

Well, it's just Jenova cells mixing with Sephoiroth cells, which are the stronger, so causing him to change.

[Wolf Kanno]

But his soul was "extinguished" by the Lifestream during the ending to the game... In a game that is as metaphysical as VII; I feel the soul being destroyed renders cells useless. Jenova could comeback (since there was no extinguishing of its soul) but Sephiroth was one of the few FF villains I felt was truly dead at the end of the game... The movie (and the Fan book) offer no real explanation to coincide with the game ending...

[jammi567]

But his soul was "extinguished" by the Lifestream during the ending to the game... In a game that is as metaphysical as VII; I feel the soul being destroyed renders cells useless. Jenova could comeback (since there was no extinguishing of its soul) but Sephiroth was one of the few FF villains I felt was truly dead at the end of the game... The movie (and the Fan book) offer no real explanation to coincide with the game ending...
No, he was just weaken vastly.

[JackNapier]

Sepiroth = $. So, yes.

[Wolf Kanno]

But his soul was "extinguished" by the Lifestream during the ending to the game... In a game that is as metaphysical as VII; I feel the soul being destroyed renders cells useless. Jenova could comeback (since there was no extinguishing of its soul) but Sephiroth was one of the few FF villains I felt was truly dead at the end of the game... The movie (and the Fan book) offer no real explanation to coincide with the game ending...
No, he was just weaken vastly.

Lol! Weaken my ass. But I guess we just have different opinions.

We saw Sephiroth transform into red Lifestream which was engulfed by the Green Lifestream and then saw a flash of light and the Lifestream left leaving no trace of the Red Lifestream. I don't know about you but this indicates to me that Sephiroth's soul was taken out. Granted, there is no real explanation for the ending in VII... Damn you EVA!!!!

[Big D]

There's nothing about Sephiroth's 'resurrection' that's' wholly inconsistent with the game. Kadaj, Yazoo and Loz are manifested fragments of Sephiroth's spirit. We know, from the game, that the spirit of someone powerful yet dead can take on physical form and interact directly with the world like a normal person - recall the 'Spirit Bodies' of the Cetra who guard the Temple of the Ancients.
To make Sephiroth 'come back' in the film, Kadaj absorbs a quantity of Jenova's cells. Reuniting body and soul, in other words. Sephiroth's fully capable of inhabiting a body comprised solely of Jenova's cells, as shown in the game when he uses Jenova's headless body as a surrogate.

Sephiroth's death at the end of the game is easily reconciled with what's in the film: defeated, he died as his spirit was washed away into the Lifestream. Jenova's tainted spirit energy experienced the same, eventually being spread across the world to cause Geostigma in anyone it touched, or anyone carrying her cells already. Over time, the shattered remains of Sephiroth's spirit were able to crawl back out of the Lifestream, as the incomplete trio of beings we know from the film.

[Wolf Kanno]

There's nothing about Sephiroth's 'resurrection' that's' wholly inconsistent with the game. Kadaj, Yazoo and Loz are manifested fragments of Sephiroth's spirit. We know, from the game, that the spirit of someone powerful yet dead can take on physical form and interact directly with the world like a normal person - recall the 'Spirit Bodies' of the Cetra who guard the Temple of the Ancients.
To make Sephiroth 'come back' in the film, Kadaj absorbs a quantity of Jenova's cells. Reuniting body and soul, in other words. Sephiroth's fully capable of inhabiting a body comprised solely of Jenova's cells, as shown in the game when he uses Jenova's headless body as a surrogate.

Sephiroth's death at the end of the game is easily reconciled with what's in the film: defeated, he died as his spirit was washed away into the Lifestream. Jenova's tainted spirit energy experienced the same, eventually being spread across the world to cause Geostigma in anyone it touched, or anyone carrying her cells already. Over time, the shattered remains of Sephiroth's spirit were able to crawl back out of the Lifestream, as the incomplete trio of beings we know from the film.

I still feel this is contradictory to logic. The game ending shows his spirit being destroyed but the movie says he just can't return to the Planet... Hell even in the Ultimania guide to AC, Nomura mentions it was a daunting task to think of a way to revive him but they only did it cause they knew fans expected him to return and fight Cloud.

Basically I watch the ending to VII and feel its Sephiroth being wiped by the Lifestream cause he's a threat to the planet. AC says he was just rejected but we saw the Lifestream extinguish his spirit not send it away. I guess this a case where the Compilation retcons the original game isn't it?

[Big D]

I think the game's ending is safely ambiguous. We see Sephiroth dissolve in a sparkle of spirit energy, so it's safe to assume he's been obliterated; but we also know that the Lifestream is an endless cycle, where energy is absorbed and re-used... we also know that the thoughts and souls of the dead can linger on in the Lifestream, after they've passed away.

[Wolf Kanno]

Yeah but we watch the Lifestream take out those sparkles...:(

But the ending was pretty ambiguous...

[Vyk]

Y'know. I just realized something. Considering the Sephiroth you see throughout most of FF7 isn't actually Sephiroth. And the Sephiroth you see killing Aeris isn't actually Sephiroth. It was all Jeneova looking like Sephiroth, thinking with him and acting for him. So it probably stands to reason that the Sephiroth in AC was more Jenova anyway. So its not like he even "came back" in that movie

[Big D]

Y'know. I just realized something. Considering the Sephiroth you see throughout most of FF7 isn't actually Sephiroth. And the Sephiroth you see killing Aeris isn't actually Sephiroth. It was all Jeneova looking like Sephiroth, thinking with him and acting for him. So it probably stands to reason that the Sephiroth in AC was more Jenova anyway. So its not like he even "came back" in that movie:)In both instances, it's Sephiroth's mind occupying a body comprised of Jenova's cells. In the original game, it was Jenova's headless, inert body from the Shinra building; in AC, it was the cells from Jenova's head/remains, as recovered from the crater.

[bdon333]

s-e will figure some retarded way of bringin him back just to make all the sephy fagboys happy

[Christmas]

He lives inside Cloud's head rent free. Even when Cloud is masturbathing, Sephiroth will always be inside watching. :bigsmile: