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[M] Al - Biker Dad
06-14-2008, 03:43 AM
Godot;2508067']
Franziska von Karma;2508062']uh...that was awkward. EOFF totally had a glitch.

Now I know who Godot is...

No, I accidentally posted from my personal account. xD



You did it again.

[M] Colette
06-14-2008, 03:43 AM
Oh no, Plum, I think you just asked for a one-way mod-kill.

[M] Athena
06-14-2008, 03:44 AM
Plum Kitaki;2508066']the pink-wearing fattyPOT. KETTLE. BLACK. :mad2:

also

##vote: Godot

SORRY BROSEPH. :goofy:

[M] Al - Biker Dad
06-14-2008, 03:44 AM
What?

Edit:@ Jean, I don't were pink, and I couldn't remember you name.

[M] Felix
06-14-2008, 03:46 AM
Maybe Plum is acting like she's given up so we'd feel remorseful? It started working on me, before I remembered we are playing MAFIA.


Jean Armstrong;2508071']

##vote: Godot

SORRY BROSEPH. :goofy:

:(

[M] Colette
06-14-2008, 03:47 AM
##Unvote-Plum
##Vote-Godot

I don't think Plum is guilty anymore.
Godot, why shouldn't I lynch you?

[M] Al - Biker Dad
06-14-2008, 03:47 AM
I really have given up.

[M] Felix
06-14-2008, 03:51 AM
Damon Gant;2508075']##Unvote-Plum
##Vote-Godot

I don't think Plum is guilty anymore.
Godot, why shouldn't I lynch you?

I thought we went over this!

Hotti was untrustworthy and you couldn't trust his words as far as you can throw him.

The only way you can make sure i'm a Doctor is if I die. But I am hoping it won't have to come to that. I honestly don't know what else I can do to convince you all.


Plum Kitaki;2508076']I really have given up.

...Maybe you should just get the Judge to find you a replacement?

[M] Colette
06-14-2008, 03:53 AM
So, are you officially quitting?

Godot, Hotti's out of the picture, but I can't risk a scum have a position of power, or a doctor getting lynched, but the former is definately the greater of two evils.

[M] Helo
06-14-2008, 03:54 AM
Jean: Chalk it up to inexperience. And unintelligence. One million apologies to the town. Every other inexperienced person: learn a lesson from me. Hopefully the town won't hurt all that much from my mistake.

Godot: Well, Plum's no longer on the block. And here you are, championing another cause away from yourself. Mr. Gant has the same thoughts I have, read them as if I were saying them.

##Unvote: Plum Kitaki
##Vote: Godot

[M] Al - Biker Dad
06-14-2008, 03:54 AM
Get a replacement and have them lynched soon after?

[M] Felix
06-14-2008, 03:54 AM
Damon Gant;2508084']So, are you officially quitting?

Me?

No, because i'm hoping you'll have enough faith in me to keep me around towards the upcoming days when I can put my protection powers to good use.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
06-14-2008, 03:55 AM
Actually I can see what Plum is saying. We are not working together, and instead we are at each others throats. Hotti did set us back two days, but lets get past that and work together. If you are not posting, and only reading this thread you are helping the mafia. If you are not posting because you are afraid to be labeled as scum, get over your fear and post. Quick Lynching is always bad. Don't come on and vote just because someone else wants you to vote.

Also, while I was with my family, I had an epiphany. Role Cop. In case you don't know what that is, it is a cop that finds out two things, allignment, and role. If the mafia have a role cop, then they know who the doctor is It fits the puzzle. Godot, your scum rating has gone up again.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
06-14-2008, 03:55 AM
Damon Gant;2508084']So, are you officially quitting?

Godot, Hotti's out of the picture, but I can't risk a scum have a posi<b></b>tion of power, or a doctor getting lynch, but the former is definately the greater of two evils.

No, no. It seemed as if a was going to get lynched, but the way it looks, I might live.

[M] Colette
06-14-2008, 03:58 AM
I was speaking to Plum.

Godot, if you are scum, you'r power could destroy us against each other, it's been two and a half days and we're nowhere.

[M] Felix
06-14-2008, 03:59 AM
Klavier Gavin;2508088']Actually I can see what Plum is saying. We are not working together, and instead we are at each others throats. Hotti did set us back two days, but lets get past that and work together. If you are not posting, and only reading this thread you are helping the mafia. If you are not posting because you are afraid to be labeled as scum, get over your fear and post. Quick Lynching is always bad. Don't come on and vote just because someone else wants you to vote.

Also, while I was with my family, I had an epiphany. Role Cop. In case you don't know what that is, it is a cop that finds out two things, allignment, and role. If the mafia have a role cop, then they know who the doctor is It fits the puzzle. Godot, your scum rating has gone up again.

I definitely see where you're coming from in the first part of that post. The only reason I keep mentioning Hotti though is because he's the reason I had to roleclaim before I would've liked to, and he's the reason suspicion has been thrown on me.

I don't understand that Role Cop stuff though. Please elaborate.

[M] Mom Host
06-14-2008, 04:01 AM
Plum, I can probably find someone else to take over. If you don't want to play any more, the best thing you can do is tell me so.

[M] Colette
06-14-2008, 04:03 AM
Two days. TWO DAMN DAYS!! We've stayed up for hours and hours and we're nowhere! Now, we've wasted a first lynch to prove guilt, we've sacrificed Mia and turns out, FOR NOTHING! DD fucked with us, AGAIN and now we've lost Kristoph, Pearl, AND Polly! What's up!?

I know what's up, WE'VE BECOME PARANOID! I have too, but we need to stop with meaningless sacrifices, we need to stop waiting and stop gambling and get down to business. So, I ask you, if ANYONE has ANY sort of information, come, tell us right now, for the Mafia, so far, has had a near flawless game, and someone's responsible!

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
06-14-2008, 04:05 AM
Godot;2508095']
Klavier Gavin;2508088']Actually I can see what Plum is saying. We are not working together, and instead we are at each others throats. Hotti did set us back two days, but lets get past that and work together. If you are not posting, and only reading this thread you are helping the mafia. If you are not posting because you are afraid to be labeled as scum, get over your fear and post. Quick Lynching is always bad. Don't come on and vote just because someone else wants you to vote.

Also, while I was with my family, I had an epiphany. Role Cop. In case you don't know what that is, it is a cop that finds out two things, allignment, and role. If the mafia have a role cop, then they know who the doctor is It fits the puzzle. Godot, your scum rating has gone up again.

I definitely see where you're coming from in the first part of that post. The only reason I keep mentioning Hotti though is because he's the reason I had to roleclaim before I would've liked to, and he's the reason suspicion has been thrown on me.

I don't understand that Role Cop stuff though. Please elaborate.







: Role Cop
<DL><DD>similar to the Cop, but he receives information about powers and alignment is usually the Mafia's cop, though in large vanillaless games he is occasionally all cops </DD></DL>One of the most powerful roles for the mafia.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
06-14-2008, 04:05 AM
Judge;2508098']Plum, I can probably find someone else to take over. If you don't want to play any more, the best thing you can do is tell me so.

I want to play, I was only giving up because it looked like I was going to die.

[M] Mom Host
06-14-2008, 04:06 AM
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[M] Felix
06-14-2008, 04:07 AM
Damon Gant;2508103']Two days. TWO DAMN DAYS!! We've stayed up for hours and hours and we're nowhere! Now, we've wasted a first lynch to prove guilt, we've sacrificed Mia and turns out, FOR NOTHING! DD smurfed with us, AGAIN and now we've lost Kristoph, Pearl, AND Polly! What's up!?

I know what's up, WE'VE BECOME PARANOID! I have too, but we need to stop with meaningless sacrifices, we need to stop waiting and stop gambling and get down to business. So, I ask you, if ANYONE has ANY sort of information, come, tell us right now, for the Mafia, so far, has had a near flawless game, and someone's responsible!

I agree. We haven't been working as a unit.

Also, you asked for info. I think I may've been targetted on Night 1, but due to my protection, I was spared on that night. Kristoph wasn't so lucky.

Night 2, I protected myself again, but wasn't targetted. Hence Polly and Pearl's deaths. I believe there is a mafia, and either a Serial Killer or second mafia faction.

I don't know if that helps right now, but that's a conclusion I came to.

[M] Mom Host
06-14-2008, 04:08 AM
Alright, Plum. Good, cause I've been recruiting replacements all day. xP

[M] Athena
06-14-2008, 04:09 AM
Klavier, my long haired lover from Liverpool, why is the existance of a role cop evidence of Godot's scumminess? I don't get it.

[M] Colette
06-14-2008, 04:10 AM
Can't be suspicious of you, forever, Godot. But, be careful.

##Unvote-Godot
##Vote-Bikini

For contributing little and having little to do with anything except random voting every day.

[M] Athena
06-14-2008, 04:28 AM
But Damon, you sly old dog you, Bikini is being replaced.

[M] Felix
06-14-2008, 04:30 AM
I agree with Jean. Let's lay off Bikini until the replacement steps in. However, i'm still suspicious of Lamiroir.

How much longer until the end of day?

[M] Al - Biker Dad
06-14-2008, 04:31 AM
Who is Lamiroir?

[M] Mom Host
06-14-2008, 04:32 AM
The day ends in about 12 hours and 20 minutes.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
06-14-2008, 04:37 AM
You agree with a lot of people godot. two of whom have voted for you today. also trying to put suspicion on Lamiroir yet not voting for her. You talk like you have something to hide.

@ Jean. It made more sense in my head during dinner, not really sure myself why i thought of it though.

[M] Felix
06-14-2008, 04:40 AM
Plum Kitaki;2508122']Who is Lamiroir?

Her (http://forums.eyesonff.com/2505851-post232.html).

Because Plum is now off the chopping block, and Bikini's being replaced, Lamiroir is the only one we haven't heard from.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
06-14-2008, 04:42 AM
##unvote: Plum

ok that venture got us nowhere So I guess lamiroir instead of Plum. and still have a cop If we have one investigate Godot tonight.

[M] Felix
06-14-2008, 04:42 AM
Klavier Gavin;2508128']You agree with a lot of people godot. two of whom have voted for you today. also trying to put suspicion on Lamiroir yet not voting for her. You talk like you have something to hide.

@ Jean. It made more sense in my head during dinner, not really sure myself why i thought of it though.

I do agree with alot of people, but I just personally prefer to not throw my votes around. It's just easier for me to vote late and assured. I have nothing to hide. And the fact that they have suspected me has little to do with whether or not I agree with their points. I don't vote out of spite.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
06-14-2008, 04:44 AM
##UnVote: Godot

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
06-14-2008, 04:54 AM
Trucy, where are you. You need to post more too. Interesting that only I noticed she is not here today at all.
##unvote: Lamiroir
##Vote: Trucy Wright
That should get her out here.

[M] Felix
06-14-2008, 04:58 AM
Klavier Gavin;2508146']Trucy, where are you. You need to post more too. Interesting that only I noticed she is not here today at all.
##unvote: Lamiroir
##Vote: Trucy Wright
That should get her out here.

I forgot about her...

Anyway, who else thinks their are either two mafia factions or a mafia and Serial Killer? I think that would explain Night 2.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
06-14-2008, 05:00 AM
That's likely, but don't forget about a vig.

[M] Felix
06-14-2008, 05:04 AM
Plum Kitaki;2508150']That's likely, but don't forget about a vig.

That too. I think it was Jean who said if there was a Vig he needed to claim. I agree with that.

[M] Adama
06-14-2008, 05:39 AM
Off to bed...will post tomorrow. Had more real-life stuffs happen, emotionally drained now. Gnight.

[M] Mom Host
06-14-2008, 05:42 AM
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[M] Felix
06-14-2008, 05:43 AM
Franziska von Karma;2508173']Off to bed...will post tomorrow. Had more real-life stuffs happen, emotionally drained now. Gnight.

Oh, Franzy. *hug*

Anyways, i'm going to bed as well. Maybe some stuff may happen while i'm sleeping.

And now that I think about it, Plum and Damon were right. We've been too paranoid and haven't been playing as well as we could. Also, we need to buckle down and pursue one thing at a time, and quit flinging accusations back and forth.

We are acting in a way that the scum must love, killing each other in the day while they do it at night.

[M] Joe - Army Dad
06-14-2008, 06:19 AM
Darnit judge, I voted for Plum! Watch, I'll do it again...

##vote: Plum Kitaki

maybe you wanted the last name in there...

[M] Aaron
06-14-2008, 06:26 AM
Alright. I'm off to bed now, but in case this ends while I'm asleep, I need to get a vote in.

##vote: Plum

Why? That was a terrible defense ("I give up?") and then everyone dropped their suspicion. I guess that's the same thing that I felt towards Godot, but maybe I'm just lynch happy.

My other reason is that I don't want to vote for Godot today. Maybe, just maybe, he is the doctor. Maybe he did protect himself day 1 like he says, and that would explain only one death that night. I don't have the power to stop you from lynching him, but if he comes up for us, I'll be in the corner shaking my head.

I really don't have any better reason to vote Plum, and they might end up being pro-town, but if a townie's going down I'd like to keep the doctor, and the way the votes are stacked right now, voting for Plum is the only way to do that.

Night lovelies. Best case scenario: I wake up tomorrow morning, we've lynched a mafia, vig/sk got a mafia, and mafia didn't make a kill. That'd be nice.

[M] Mom Host
06-14-2008, 06:39 AM
Fine, WHATEVER

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[M] Al - Biker Dad
06-14-2008, 06:42 AM
Maya Fey;2508188']Why? That was a terrible defense ("I give up?") and then everyone dropped their suspicion.

That wasn't a defense, that was the truth.

[M] Mom Host
06-14-2008, 06:49 AM
Giving up because you're about to get lynched isn't playing the game very well. xP Getting lynched is a big part of the game. Come on, be a sport!

[M] Anise
06-14-2008, 06:56 AM
Just got off work and found out I'm the replacement. :p

Back off both Plum and Godot. The only person screaming scum to me is none other then, "Dun Dun DUN!!" Luke Atmey.

Why? Every day, he has jumped on the most likely easy vote. I would not have said this had he not jumped at Godot, when it's fairly obvious DD can't be trusted, and he seemed rather posotive about it.

Each other time he voted, it was also for an obvious lynch and early during the time the lynching of them started.

Don't get me wrong, Godot is not off the hook. There is some chance DD wasn't lying, but I'm not sure if I buy it.

So even if Luke is lynched, we need to keep a close eye on Godot. There is probably more then one anti-town faction given all the people.

##vote: Luke Atmey

[M] Anise
06-14-2008, 06:57 AM
To specify, since it isnt that clear, right off Godot Seemed like he was the easy lynch due to DD's flip of insane Cop.

The first likely reaction would be jump Godot, though unless eager to kill off a good adversary, I would presume one would consider more carefully then he seemed to.

[M] Mom Host
06-14-2008, 07:02 AM
Alright, this is the final vote tally for tonight. I need some sleeps. I will definitely be back in time to end the day tomorrow. I don't think we're going to get a majority lynch today. I'm glad to see that Bikini's replacement has shown up. I like to see people lynched because they're acting suspicious, not because they're not doing anything at all. xP ANYWAY, about 10 hours remain in the day. I'll be back to take care of it. Behave yourselves while I'm gone!

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[M] Mike - Funny Dad
06-14-2008, 07:04 AM
Before I go to sleep Imma have to vote Trucy because she'd be here awhile then BOOM gone! so Sorry Trucy youshould be safe though

##vote:Trucy Wright

[M] Gaius
06-14-2008, 08:15 AM
*reads thread*

[M] Gaius
06-14-2008, 09:06 AM
Ok! Read. First thing,

Klavier Gavin;2508146']Trucy, where are you. You need to post more too. Interesting that only I noticed she is not here today at all.
##Vote: Trucy Wright
That should get her out here.

Furio Tigre;2508207']##vote:Trucy Wright

Consider me prodded :p [insert RL-related excuse]

Plum Kitaki;2507979']Fine. I'm town, but I hope the mafia wins.Was this part of your 'I give up' phase? I understand that you thought the town wasn't working together though. Do you still feel this way? Also, what is the significance of being/playing like Luigi?

Jean Armstrong;2508028']USEFUL STUFF about roleclaimingThanks for that. I leveled up. I was leaning slightly towards just saying what my role was eventually, but I will hold it for now.

I don't have any strong suspicions yet (or weak ones for that matter), it was just that one comment from Plum that had me concerned. And my role kind of prevents me from just voting on a whim.

I have some important things to do this morning (hence why I'm up and reading/posting so early) so after this I won't really be around to answer anyone that directs something at me for several hours. I shall be back later though.

[M] Anise
06-14-2008, 10:17 AM
I'll change my Vote back to Luke if that lynch gains popularity. However for now, since it's not likely to happen, I think it's more important to keep Godot alive.

##Unvote: Luke
##Vote: Plum

[M] Elize
06-14-2008, 10:37 AM
Bikini;2508203']Just got off work and found out I'm the replacement. :p

Back off both Plum and Godot. The only person screaming scum to me is none other then, "Dun Dun DUN!!" Luke Atmey.

Why? Every day, he has jumped on the most likely easy vote. I would not have said this had he not jumped at Godot, when it's fairly obvious DD can't be trusted, and he seemed rather posotive about it.

Each other time he voted, it was also for an obvious lynch and early during the time the lynching of them started.

First off, my suspicions of Godot have nothing to do with what DD/Hotti said. I've had my suspicions about him since day 1. And after adding up all the evidence I'm certain he's scum.

As for bandwagoning, chalk that up to laziness and inexperience :tongue:

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
06-14-2008, 10:47 AM
Looking over things Godot is still my number 1 suspect. However I'll hold off on him as he *may* be the doctor (though I honestly don't believe so).

Plum is either town or a freaking genius of surviving lynches. However she's reading more town to me at the moment.

Other various people who pop in or say very little come to mind, but one person that bothers me for inactivity is Phoenix Wright. The star ace and he doesn't even post hardly any. What's he trying to hide?

So going back to day one (only not a joke vote this time but rather a real vote) I'll vote him for inactivity.

##Vote: Phoenix Wright

[M] Al - Biker Dad
06-14-2008, 11:05 AM
Trucy Wright;2508231']
Plum Kitaki;2507979']Fine. I'm town, but I hope the mafia wins.Was this part of your 'I give up' phase? I understand that you thought the town wasn't working together though.

No, it was because the town is playing like it did in WWIII mafia.

[M] Adama
06-14-2008, 12:36 PM
@Plum: You need to change your playing strategy :p

@Godot: No worries, I'm ok now :bigsmile:

@Everyone: Well I got a pretty decent sleep, and I'm drinking orange juice. Both have probed my brain to REALLY think.

Phoenix: Inactive. The star character, so you'd think he'd be here more. Posts and runs. Doesn't contribute much.

Jean: Comes in spurts (lol, dirty minded). Suddenly leaves at the most random of times. Very smart. Lots of experience in the game, so would be able to hide ANYTHING.

Plum: Gives up instantly, doesn't even try to fight. Acts like it's a chore to play. Gives up because they're losing first, then suddenly, it's because the town isn't playing together.

Godot: Smart. Most wanted at the moment because of events related to Hotti (but keep in mind, DD was the man behind the puppet).

Trucy: Never has much to add, not really around that much.

Faye: Comes in spurts and pretty much just repeats what's already been said, but also has some pretty good ideas.

Luke: Not around much unless he's called out on something.

Just some facts to consider...not as much of a "suspect list" as it is a list of people who seem to be the most popularly discussed.

[M] Apollo
06-14-2008, 01:06 PM
I don't like how I can leave and never get susipcion, keep your eyes out better if I had been scum I could've laid low the entire day out of my friend over excuse.

Anyway, my main three suspects are, Godot, Luke, and I'd like someone to explain the argument against Plum.

Now, Plum's either Jojee, or a really crap town, for turning a game you sign up for into a chore and is another reason I'm not liking this town's chances. I don't see the argument on why she's susipicious though.

Something about Godot has been getting me all game, if he turns out to be mafia, then he's been the mafian suckup all game. Let's face it, no one wants to kill someone who calls them smart, because they think they see his way. Now I say that completely disregarding what Hotti said, because I think he was just out to act crazy as usual.

Luke still has my attention. His been making easy votes without much analsys in them, and chalked them up to laziness, and inexperience, sorry that excuse doesn't help. On top of that Franziska's analsys is very correct, he only appears when being called out. Biggest newbie mafia mistake.

I don't know if this will make a difference, but Luke really should be public enemy number one imo.

##Vote: Luke Attny

EDIT: It should be noted that if it turns out to be Plum V. Godot, I'm voting Godot.

[M] Adama
06-14-2008, 01:12 PM
@Dick: to be honest, I keep forgetting most of the characters that are nearly never here, including you xD I should go back to that character list.

The reason why Plum is suspicious, is because his (the player is a male) posts have basically been "I agree. ##Vote" until we all started looking twice at him. Then he suddenly said 'I give up. I'm going to die anyway, no point anymore," without ANY form of defense. If they dont' want to play...why keep them around, yeah?

But now he says he wants to play, and he's been posting more, though he doesn't really say much to contribute, but it's a start. Therefore, the suspicion is being lifted for the most part, but I'm not changing my vote until I see someone (other than Godot) who tickles my scum radar.

And yes, Luke is scummy. But, I'm sticking to my vote until he really says something to set me off.

[M] Colette
06-14-2008, 01:14 PM
Aw, bye guyz, I gotta go to work and then get this thing fixed. XD Go Town!

[M] Apollo
06-14-2008, 01:15 PM
Consider that we've lost 4 townies in 2 days. Voting someone because they're playing poorly shouldn't be done until we get at least 1 mafian to cut down the chance of us losing without even noticing.

EDIT: Nearly never here? I was here all of Day 2.

[M] Adama
06-14-2008, 01:24 PM
@ Gant: bai ^^

@Dick: I'm thinking in the present day, sorry xD

And, well...you have a point. A VERY good point.

##Unvote: Plum

##Vote: Luke

[M] Mom Host
06-14-2008, 04:10 PM
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[M] Mom Host
06-14-2008, 04:11 PM
About 40 minutes left in the day, unless we end up in Sudden Death again. Get crackin'

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
06-14-2008, 04:26 PM
Just popping in to see what the deal is. There's no way I'm changing my vote. Godot reads scum big time to me so no change. Like I said, busy weekend. Be back later to see what's happened. :greenie:

[M] Mom Host
06-14-2008, 04:28 PM
20 minutes left. :P

[M] Elize
06-14-2008, 04:30 PM
I'm not changing my vote either. I forsee sudden death.

[M] Adama
06-14-2008, 04:35 PM
Sudden death over someone's death. lol @ irony.

Luke, aren't you the least bit concerned that you're a suspicion? :confused:

Also, we can't get crackin'...Without NeoCracker

:bigbiggri?

[M] Elize
06-14-2008, 04:36 PM
No I am not. I have nothing to hide.

[M] Apollo
06-14-2008, 04:43 PM
fuck, between Plum and Godot, Godot should go.

##Unvote: LUke
##Vote: Godot

[M] Adama
06-14-2008, 04:46 PM
=\ it'll really be bad if he really is the doctor. But, I'm not holding my breath.

[M] Mom Host
06-14-2008, 04:55 PM
"You think I'm WHAT?"

Godot had been accused of being behind the killings, but the source of the accusation was... unreliable to say the least. Director Hotti had left behind a video explaining how the letters in his Alphabits cereal had spelled out "BOFTOG" which can kind of rearranged to spell "Godot" if you take away some letters and turn one of them into a G. Apparently the ramblings of a madman were more than enough to be considered decisive evidence. Gumshoe had the honor of being the one to stick fork in his toaster face, causing him to spark and convulse and simply hunch over dead.

[M] Godot was a Doctor played by Dynast-Kid and Levian. Awwwww.

Night actions please! It's early in the day so I'm hoping to get them all early. This way we can start the day this evening. Night will last no longer than 12 hours.

[M] Mom Host
06-15-2008, 04:52 AM
Nothing happened.

Day 4 begins now. With 19 players left, it takes ten votes for a majority lynch. The day will last a maximum of 24 hours, barring another sudden death situation.

Go

[M] Adama
06-15-2008, 04:55 AM
yay, we all made it ^^ EXCEPT FOR THE DOCTOR. SHAME ON YOU ALL :nonono:

Ah well... *Sigh*. Let's try to get a mafian this time, guys.

EDIT: And to stick with what I had in Day 3...

##Vote: Luke

Come on, dude. Where are you? Why don't you post something useful for once? Your behavior smells SCUMMY.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
06-15-2008, 05:02 AM
Really strange to see that nothing happened. There's gonna be something up with that.

I'm terribly sad to see our little Godot go. :( I'm also a bit suspicious of the people who turned us against him ...

[M] Athena
06-15-2008, 05:13 AM
Nothing happened.I wish I could say the same about my pants...but oh baby something happened in there when I saw your beautiful beard.

14 left alive. Supposing 5 mafia (if it's 6, fuck you Judge OVERPOWAH HAX) 9 of us, 5 of them, meaning yeah, today we have to get it right or else we are in a very very bad way tomorrow.

Problem is a lot of people just come in, look at who is popular and vote for them and don't contribute anything else. I'd love to go after them but we can't really afford that. I guess someone who is active is mafia so just gotta go over the thread and find 'em.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
06-15-2008, 05:17 AM
Unfortunately I missed voting day 3 because the day ended when I was still asleep, but regardless even if I would've voted, the majority of you still made the decision to lynch Godot; which I was up in arms with. Very disappointing that we loss our doctor, but judging from the activity last night, or lack thereof, we still have some powerful roles that overrided the kill(s), so no need to panic yet. The following people are now on my suspect list on account of voting off Godot even after he role claimed doctor:

Lamiroir
Ema Skye
Luke Atmey
Plum Kit
Will Powers
Jean Armstrong
Wesley Stickler
Dick Gumshoe

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
06-15-2008, 05:19 AM
There are actually 19 people alive jean.

[M] Adama
06-15-2008, 05:21 AM
People started to look cross-eyed at Godot when Hotti pulled the "I investigated him" stunt. He lied. People believed him because that was all they had to go by. We need to stop allowing one single person to be the one who influences all of us because as history has shown, it gets us killed.

Everyone, think really hard about what all has been said and what YOU think looks even slightly fishy. Don't tell us what Jean thinks is fishy, nor what Will thinks is fishy or Emma or any of them. Think for yourself and post ANYTHING you have to offer, because WE NEED TO WORK AS A TEAM AND NOT ALLOW OURSELVES TO BECOME SHEEP. So, stop following each other and take initiative!

Emma Skye, who rings most suspicious to you now that Godot is gone?

Phoenix, who smells fishy to you?

Plum, since you're safe for now, how about you let us in on your thoughts?

Will, what do you think of everything that's happened?

Trucy, Dick, Faye, Wesley, Lu..whatever your name is...Valant..Luke...Miles...Gavin...Bikini...Tigre...Damon...Discuss your thoughts and opinions, please.

Apollo, since you're the only other one that seems to be here...what have you got?

EDIT: ohai, Valant.

EDIT2: And Jean. And Gavin.

Oh, and Jean dear? Party in your pants tonight, me and you? :jokey:

[M] Apollo
06-15-2008, 05:27 AM
I've played a poor game thus far. I have Luke as my #1 but I vote with him? Bad choice, I'm willing to take some blame.

I still believe Luke is mafia. He only posts other peoples ideas, he takes easy votes, and doesn't say much until he's targetted. He also appeared to be someone who pushed Godot harder then most.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
06-15-2008, 05:30 AM
Franziska von Karma;2509046']People started to look cross-eyed at Godot when Hotti pulled the "I investigated him" stunt. He lied. People believed him because that was all they had to go by. We need to stop allowing one single person to be the one who influences all of us because as history has shown, it gets us killed.
I don't know why people would trust Demon Dude of all people even after he lied about his day cop role, but that's an entirely different topic for an entirely different thread. Gonna move on now.


Franziska von Karma;2509046']Oh, and Jean dear? Party in your pants tonight, me and you? :jokey:
Jean only likes men. ;)

[M] Helo
06-15-2008, 05:34 AM
MY SINCEREST APOLOGIES GODOT. I should have listened. I should. Have. Listened.

But hooray for no more Townies dying apart from that!

Luke was my number two suspect on Day 3 (after Godot), so now he's of course moved up to number one.

But we, as a group, should try to figure out what the pattern of public night actions means. (Public meaning the ones everyone can see the end result of)

People had suggested two separate Mafia factions. It behooves the Mafia to kill each and every night, so both factions would have chosen someone all three nights. Nights 1 and 2 can be explained this way (with one of the Night 1 kills pointing to Godot, who protected himself and thus survived). Following this theory into Night 3, however, would imply multiple protections (meaning other protective roles or bulletproofness/nightkill immunity, etc) and circumstances that are just a little low on the probability scale with 19 players remaining to seem plausible. Of course, this is not saying this definitely could not have happened. It's just my logical approach to the problem.

So what does this mean? Some other sort of killing role is in play. The possibilities are numerous. It could be anything from Serial Killer to Even-Night Vigilante (I made that one up) to Paranoid Gun Owner.

Those are my thoughts as of right now. Cue large gap in time between this post and my next one, related to nighttime activities.

[M] Adama
06-15-2008, 05:36 AM
Here's what I think.

Luke is fishy, but so is Lamiroir. Laying a little too low for my liking.

Emma comes and goes a little too often.

Wesley roleclaimed when there was absolutely no threat to him. Blamed it on newbishness. Not sure what to think about that, but I've got my eye on him.

Phoenix disappeared. Laying low like Lamiroir? Psh. Red flag up in herr.

Trucy is around more than the other Wright, but still not enough.

Because it's the beginning of summer, a lot of people will be busy, but really now. Are you just laying REALLY low to stay off the radar as you plot the next death, or do you actually mean it?

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
06-15-2008, 05:38 AM
Franziska, you will need to give us your opinaon as well. Here are my thoughts of the remaining people

Mafia
Lamiroir - I get strong scum vibes
Luke - has some bad vibes
Furio - Some bad vibes

Needs to be more active
Trucy
Bikini

Town
Klavier (I know I'm town)
Jean is pretty safe with me

[M] Adama
06-15-2008, 05:40 AM
Wesley could very well have meant it when he said he's new to this, but he's REALLY knowledgeable for someone who is just starting in on mafia. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
06-15-2008, 05:40 AM
Klavier Gavin;2509058']Franziska, you will need to give us your opinaon as well. Here are my thoughts of the remaining people

Mafia
Lamiroir - I get strong scum vibes
Luke - has some bad vibes
Furio - Some bad vibes

Needs to be more active
Trucy
Bikini

Town
Klavier (I know I'm town)
Jean is pretty safe with me
"I get some strong/bad/icky/nasty/foul/ewy scum vibes" is not really that helpful. We need some reasons why.

[M] Adama
06-15-2008, 05:43 AM
And, I gave my opinion. Luke is the number one suspect for me, and Lamiroir is on the same level because she's made, what, 2 or 3 posts the entire game? I believe them to be mafia the most at the moment.

Also, Jean is WAY too smart for his own good. Though, his EOFF identity has been in most of the mafia games, so this is most likely why. I just don't like how he comes in and posts only a couple of times, then disappears until the next day. So, he's pretty suspicious too.

[M] Joe - Army Dad
06-15-2008, 05:51 AM
to karma- I have a small idea of what happened. I think the roleblocker got the right person and we either have some bulletproofs or we have more protective roles.

The case with godot... really just confuses me. He was playing like a perfect serial killer. I guess I was wrong though, and I am sorry. Also, DD is the official mafia loser. Seriously. I should have listened to godot and not beleived that idiot. I am sorry.

[M] Adama
06-15-2008, 06:02 AM
Luke is suspicious to me because he has NOTHING to contribute, and his posts have a sort of...celebratory?...tone to them. As if he's happy about how things are going. As if he's behind it.

Lamiroir:

Lamiroir;2505142']Hello =D This game is so big.


Trucy Wright;2505141']I don't know why I'm a suspect, but I know my daddy will take care of me.

Do you mean ...godfather? ;)

Lamiroir;2505851']The thing I can gather is that if Hotti really is a cop, then he will die sooner than later from being night killed. I see him as dead in any case soon because why would the mafia want to leave him alive if he can investigate them every day? I would rather take the chance on Mia Fey in the off chance he's telling the truth a cop is really important! DX

##Vote: Mia Fey

Lamiroir;2506539']Here's a thought, why did the mafia kill Kristoph Gavin? And Hotti, if you're really a cop, why would you make a day cop roleclaim and get a town killed? =P

Lamiroir;2507418']Sorry I'll try to be more active! =\ Tomorrow I'll be here all day! Anyways, Driector Hotti was really a cop, and, even though he lied about being day cop I think he was telling the truth on day 2 ...I think I believe him ... so that means Godot is guilty because Director Hotti was insane.

##Vote: Godot

Suspicious material can has bold.

So, out of a total of 4 posts, 2 of them are votes with little or no reason. Every other post is a vote. I see a pattern, whether it be significant or not.

In the second quote, "he will die sooner than later from being night killed." She sounds way too sure of herself. Also, "I see him as dead in any case soon because why would the mafia want to leave him alive if he can investigate them every night?" Either she's trying to think like the mafia so she can figure out what they're up to and prompt us to think like them at the same time, or, if you think about it, she sounds kind of like she's sending a subliminal message: I see him as dead in any case soon because why would I want him alive if he can investigate me every night?" "I would rather take the chance on Mia Fey..." She was the third in the Mia Fey bandwagon. Not only that, but she didn't say WHY she'd rather take a chance on Mia Fey. On top of all that, she doesn't consider all the different types of cop that he could have been. Considering all possibilities is VERY important, because one false move and you could be the next one in line for the lynch block, or even the next night kill victim.

More on her later, if I can think of anything I'm missing. After observing, though, Lamiroir is slowly jumping up there in suspicion levels to me.

[M] Dee
06-15-2008, 06:09 AM
I'm sorrrryy! I'm saying that a lot already =/ I honestly thought Godot was guilty. I said yesterday i have more time today, so, here I am. Fran, I did say why I would rather take a chance on Mia, because cops are really important. I think everyone was thinking that too, not just me! I should have just never listened to anything Hotti said from the start XD

[M] Adama
06-15-2008, 06:12 AM
Duh, I forgot to discuss the last two quotes xD

"Here's a thought, why did the mafia kill Kristoph Gavin?" Nothing more than that. No "I think it was because of this." Just simply...what she said. No substance. Why did she pick him out specifically? He was just a vanilla townie, not an important role. An off-the-wall question that has no relevance. Trying to lead us off onto the wrong path of thinking to distract us.

In quote #4: "Driector Hotti was really a cop, and, even though he lied about being day cop I think he was telling the truth on day 2 ...I think I believe him ... so that means Godot is guilty because Director Hotti was insane.

##Vote: Godot"

I may be wrong, but if I remember correctly, the insane cop CAN get correct readings. The fact that he didn't even investigate Godot to begin with has no relevance. She was insisting that Godot was guilty despite lack of evidence on her part, as well as the fact that it was blatantly obvious that DD lied to us. She's too quick to trust the insane one. Or, perhaps, she's just glad another townie is gone. Less trouble for her to plan another townie death.

Without further adieu, after laying out my supporting evidence for my verdict:

##Unvote: Luke

##Vote: Lamiroir

Luke may be mafia too, but for now, Lady Lamiroir has too much against her to be a townie.

[M] Adama
06-15-2008, 06:15 AM
@Will: Strong possibility. Let's all keep an eye on all details, even the smallest of ones, so we can make correct deductions.

@Lamiroir: The fact that you really didn't have any other reason other than what Hotti said to support your deduction that Godot was guilty raises questions. You should NEVER trust another player THAT much, ESPECIALLY DD. Just keep that in mind for next time you play mafia.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
06-15-2008, 06:18 AM
Thats what I get for hitting submit instead of preview, an incomplete post. The second half is this.

I was looking back at day 1, and watched as one by one, votes switched from Hotti/Godot to Mia. Lamiroir was right in the middle, seeming to act on her own, but helping secure that Mia would die, knowing that Hotti would be discredeted.

Luke, you also slipped day 1. You accused several people of being scum in a joking tone, yet were still throwing names out there. I forgot what Psy called it in retro games mafia, something about throwing spaghetti at a wall. You also had no fear of Hotti, because you knew Mia was innocent and just slipped in a vote for her with the rest of the bandwagon.

Furio is just giving me a bad vibe, I don't fully understand why though.

[M] Dee
06-15-2008, 06:18 AM
Uh, yeah, I said I think I believed him, not I definately believed him XD I didn't have any more reason than anyone else to think he's guilty and wanted to vote in case I don't get to again, and, insane cops can't get right results ...so, yeah.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
06-15-2008, 06:20 AM
OHMIGOSH sry I was at six flags all day today literally 10 Am to 10 PM sorry ya'lls So my thoughts

Fran- Town because she seems so concerned about people who aren't playing (we'll thats older but really)

Jean- Possibly both for me I can't tell. He's really smart so I'm afraid that's he's mafia and just tricking us

Apollo, PW,-Can't tell been to inactive

Lami whatever- Mafia due to obvious reasons

Bikini- Can't tell old and new person aren't on too much

Everyone else I can't remember due to low suspiscions

##vote: Lamiroir

[M] Dee
06-15-2008, 06:29 AM
Whatever Furio Tigre. First you said "Lami - whatever" ...and then later after you saw others post you edited to "Mafia due to obvious reasons" and put a vote, and, don't even explain what obvious reasons ...If that's not suspicious I don't know what is!

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
06-15-2008, 06:31 AM
I saw that too. Trying to save yourself Furio?

[M] Adama
06-15-2008, 06:31 AM
@Lamiroir: You're right...Insane cops CAN'T be right. My bad =P

[M] Adama
06-15-2008, 06:32 AM
and yeah...the "obvious reasons" thing is kinda...out of place. Explain?

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
06-15-2008, 06:33 AM
Lamiroir;2509091']Whatever Furio Tigre. First you said "Lami - whatever" ...and then later after you saw others post you edited to "Mafia due to obvious reasons" and put a vote, and, don't even explain what obvious reasons ...If that's not suspicious I don't know what is!
Throwing suspiscion away I believe that's suspiscious agreeing with someone on day one to hopefully (in my mind) be believed as protown, need continue voting Godot even after there was supposedly a plan for a cop if we had one to investigate him that night and depending on what we got vote him or not vote him. I think thats enough I just didn't want to type all that seeing as it's 10:32 PM and I've been up since like 4 AM

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
06-15-2008, 06:37 AM
Interesting how Lam is suddenly starting to post more now that she's on the chopping block. It makes me think that she has been lurking this thread, but that is just a presumption. She is suspicious to me because she voted for Godot and also Director Hotti (who were both innocent) with not much sound reasoning behind it although to be perfectly honest, with the way Hotti was acting I am not surprised you people lynched him.


Lamiroir;2509083']Uh, yeah, I said I think I believed him, not I definately believed him XD I didn't have any more reason than anyone else to think he's guilty and wanted to vote in case I don't get to again, and, insane cops can't get right results ...so, yeah.
They get right results once they find out that their results are backwards if that makes any sense.

[M] Aaron
06-15-2008, 06:41 AM
I TOLD YOU! I TOLD YOU! I TOLD YOU!

Ugh, sorry, just had to get that out of my system. We should've given Godot another day, and look what happened!

Anyway, as of right now I'm not even really sure where we are.

Can anyone explain to me why we dislike Laromir (sp?)

Additionally, I've Furio seems to quick to post guilt, and I've been becoming more and more suspicious of him, though there isn't a concrete case against him right now either.

[M] Dee
06-15-2008, 06:42 AM
If i was mafia I wouldn't have such a bad voting record Lol, and what difference does it make, Hotti or Mia? They were both town ...though Hotti turned out to be really bad town XD If you thought voting Godot was dumb maybe you shouldn't have thrown your vote away on Tracy ...where you even said you knew your vote wouldn't matter.

I'm still catching up on some reading. Lol when I have time to post, there's not much people on ...

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
06-15-2008, 06:45 AM
Maya Fey;2509099']I TOLD YOU! I TOLD YOU! I TOLD YOU!

Ugh, sorry, just had to get that out of my system. We should've given Godot another day, and look what happened!

Anyway, as of right now I'm not even really sure where we are.

Can anyone explain to me why we dislike Laromir (sp?)

Additionally, I've Furio seems to quick to post guilt, and I've been becoming more and more suspicious of him, though there isn't a concrete case against him right now either.
I had the same Godot Idea
I believe most people are disliking Lamiroir because he was very inactive then as soon as his name comes up on chopping block he starts posting
And only one person on my list I believe to be guilty and I know there is no case because I'm town

[M] Dee
06-15-2008, 06:47 AM
I see my name mentioned a lot yesterday actually XD No one can spell it right.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
06-15-2008, 06:49 AM
Lamiroir;2509100'] maybe you shouldn't have thrown your vote away on Tracy ...where you even said you knew your vote wouldn't matter.

I did that because I didn't have any concrete evidence on anyone and It was that or don't vote at all and I felt like voting

[M] Dee
06-15-2008, 06:59 AM
Yea I see you didn't vote for anyone on day 1 ...and Hotti on day 2 ...and Tracy on day 3, according to Judge's tally, and, you jump around votes all the time. Are you afraid of committing?

I'm tired of reading your posts ...what else should we talk about?

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
06-15-2008, 07:03 AM
Lamiroir;2509111']Yea I see you didn't vote for anyone on day 1 ...and Hotti on day 2 ...and Tracy on day 3, according to Judge's tally, and, you jump around votes all the time. Are you afraid of committing?

I'm tired of reading your posts ...what else should we talk about?
DAy 1 No evidence so I didn't vote day two Hotti because he annoyed me yesterday no evidence so i went for someone who I knew would be safe I changed votes once yesterday when Godot convinced me to wait a day. And on day 1 I jumped a lot to see if people were on but being inactive and if they'd jump to try and save their ass which I already explained to Godot

[M] Adama
06-15-2008, 07:11 AM
Okay...It's after 2 am. I've been up since 5 am yesterday. Time to hit the sack.

Gnight all :)

[M] Mom Host
06-15-2008, 07:13 AM
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[M] Mom Host
06-15-2008, 07:13 AM
I'm going to bed so that's the last vote count you'll get from me tonight. :P I'll be back tomorrow.

[M] Colette
06-15-2008, 08:04 AM
I'm not going to vote for anyone yet, as Ive just replaced someone and haven't read enough yet to get a good vibe of the people.

I will have some opinion by the end of day 4, until then I will lurk.

p.s. look at my awsome pink glasses. ^__^

[M] Anise
06-15-2008, 08:08 AM
Im sticking with Luke, for reasons stated yesterday.

Furio doesn't look very fun to me either, based on giving little information, and on day 1 voting for a guy because he voted for him, something WAY to defensive for a town. But thats just me, and I really don't have much evidence on Tigre other then that, so I don't intend to vote for him.

I also encourage you all to vote Luke as well as me, after enough people start talking of course so we can milk more info out of them. :p

Also, I was being active, just after I got on. :p

Remember, I didn't even get a PM to play this time until half way through the other day, and didn't get to post until near the end of the day.

And here I am, posting again. :p

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
06-15-2008, 08:31 AM
God you guys are fast readers or something. I've gone back through the thread from the beginning but only up through Day 1. Going by what we know for sure, here's what's caught my eyes.


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10 minutes left and we're tied! If we go into sudden death, the first person to have more votes will be lynched.


Miles Edgeworth;2505788']
Godot;2505644']
Miles Edgeworth, why did you vote for Phoenix? The only reasoning I see you put is because "you're an evil bad guy".
I had no one better to vote for since no one really screamed scum to me yet. It was also a half joke as my character looks like the villain type and Phoenix was the only good guy in the series I know of.
But as far as Hotti goes, he's either insane and a very bad cop (and no not an insane cop, I mean player insane), a jester, or mafia trying a very bold move on day one.
I'm leaning more towards jester of this moment.


Miles Edgeworth;2505996']##Unvote: Phoenix Wright
##Vote: Mia Fey
I'll bite Hotti. Let's see what your up to exactly. Bad cop? Or scum plot?

Here we have the final vote count from Day 1 along with the tie-breaker's vote. First, I'll do what I always do and say that it's most likely that at least 1 (more probably 2, even 3) scum player(s) voted for the lynch victim. Taking those we know are innocent out of the list we have Damon Gant, Lamiroir, Luke Atmey, Will Powers, and Phoenix Wright. All likely scum peepz.

Miles comes out as the last voter for Mia Fey, moving his vote from Phoenix Wright to her. Moves his vote off the person he votes for to join the person he voted for against Mia? WTF, mate? I know it was only Day 1 and things happen, just sayin' it's a bitto weirdo to me.


Plum Kitaki;2505976']##UnVote: Godot
Vote: Director Hotti
For reasons above.

There was another post earlier than this one where you just lept out and hopped on Godot. Plum... chica, get some opinions or something! People need your thoughts not your gloomy join-behinds.


Will Powers;2505866']Hmm... I dont like this very much. We can either lynch Hotti for claiming cop so early or listen to godot and lynch mia. Right now, I think we should lynch mia and if it seems Hotti is telling the truth, we can have a cop, but if he is lying we can lynch him tommorow. This really seems better right now to me so...
##unvote: hotti
##vote: mia fey

This just sounds weird to me. Not to mention chain lynching again. It really looks like you're not truly committing to either one because you don't care about losing either. And you voted for both.


Will Powers;2505879']We have about 1hour and 20 minutes left if I am correct.
I really hope we arent making the wrong move here...

Forgive me for possibly making something out of nothing here but I really don't like when little things like this are added to the end of a post. "I really hope we arent making the wrong move here..." It just oozes fake to me.

BADAAADAAA. Plus, you're on the list of possibles I have at the start of the post. You my #1, baby. #1.


Lamiroir;2505851']The thing I can gather is that if Hotti really is a cop, then he will die sooner than later from being night killed. I see him as dead in any case soon because why would the mafia want to leave him alive if he can investigate them every day? I would rather take the chance on Mia Fey in the off chance he's telling the truth a cop is really important! DX
##Vote: Mia Fey

I can see some scum in there maybe. You're putting two proven innocents in together almost like a chain lynch. I don't know. I think you were thinking how a townie should think, in my opinion. I don't see why everyone's so worked up about you right now. But still, a little fishy just nothing too major.


Luke Atmey;2505568']Why did I have to be asleep when this started ;_;

##Vote: [M] Godot

Same as Plum, get some backbone. :p


Kristoph Gavin;2505485']Damon is coming off as dodgey to me.
Rather then retort an attack, he just dodges it.
True, this is barely anything to go on, but you know what? smurf you all. I can't gauge "crap" with all that damn spam, and I do NOT appreciate getting off work to shift through this much crap.
Edit:
##Vote: Damon Gant

Kristoph votes for Damon Gant, one of those on my list at the top of this post. Kristoph dies that night. Probably coincidence but just pointing that out. Little bits can lead to a big case.


Mia Fey;2505296']Alright well this is what I know from being Mafia far too much :p

There is always one mafian member who posts as little as possible, sometimes not at all, just hoping to glide their way through (Auron, Hsu, Ditto). So, voting an inactive off usually gives you a chance at finding a mafian.

Now, right now our list is too big, but give it time and we'll probably nail it down to a 2-4 list of inactives. This is why I lean toward one. Our main problem with choosing one, is we run the risk of either discovering nothing (because the person doesn't show up to defend themselves, turns up town, and the night kill gives us nothing.).

Coming back to this quote by Mia Fey because I agreed with it from the start. Now it's more true than it was back then since we're lower in numbers and we actually have things to discuss. Don't let the people that aren't contributing move on without some resistance. From the list I made, I'm looking at you, Phoenix Wright.

There, that was forever in the making and it was only Day 1. I'll come back after I get some sleep and go over everything else then. :mog:

[M] Colette
06-15-2008, 08:44 AM
Before I go to sleep I just want to point out that I'm a replacement and cannot be accounted or defend the playstyle of the person who took this account before me.

We can however say that he/she is a newbie, as experienced players do not take up a mafia game and then suddenly leave.

So don't make quick judgements on how he/she played(because I can't explain that), but if you have a general scum vibe coming from me, a little understandable as for a pro-town role he/she played pretty scummely, then vote away.

[M] Anise
06-15-2008, 09:05 AM
Well Mr. Gant, you just moved up to #2 on my list.

Why? "Oh, you can't judge me, for I is replacement". The thing is, everything that happened before did happen, and its something that can and should be taken into consideration.

It seems very scummy to try to remove any evidence that can be used against you without a good reason as to why.

[M] Dee
06-15-2008, 10:23 AM
I'll just say it, Gant is #1 on my list today, and now he is even more! On day 2 when I said, "think about why the mafia killed Kristoph" I looked at his posts, and, the only thing Kristoph did was vote for Gant. But, I more suspected Hotti that day, so i didn't want to get killed too in case I said something DX

I notice he keeps talking about wanting to be investigated. He said something about night time inspection at least twice. I read it earlier but i don't want to find it now.
Now, no one barely even said anything about him, and he says "sorry the person before me was playing scummy." No one even said that except him, why so paranoid!
One more thing i noticed when i was reading that seems weird, him and some other people I forgot seem to trust Jean so much ...why?

I'm leaving and putting my vote in case I don't get back, but, like I said I have more time now and i should be back XD

##Vote: Gant

[M] Elize
06-15-2008, 10:44 AM
Franziska von Karma;2509066']Luke is suspicious to me because he has NOTHING to contribute, and his posts have a sort of...celebratory?...tone to them. As if he's happy about how things are going. As if he's behind it.


Yeah I'm really happy that we keep lynching townies while the scum laugh at how much we suck :rolleyes2


Alright, I want to clear my name so if any of you have any questions I'll answer them. I have nothing to hide.

[M] Adama
06-15-2008, 12:10 PM
Lamiroir;2509164']
One more thing i noticed when i was reading that seems weird, him and some other people I forgot seem to trust Jean so much ...why?


Because the person behind Jean's character just oozes charisma. (Don't let that go to your head, you-know-who-you-are...I'll deflate it with a pin :aimkiss:)He probably has the most experience out of anyone playing, other than Levian...who died anyway and wasn't able to post except once, I believe, because he worked so much. I'm sure there are more experienced ones among us, I just don't know who all is playing.

Anyway, as I said before...trusting one player to tell you how to vote and all that is VERY dangerous. He turns out to be mafia, we're screwed for life, because he has the most influence over everyone, and we let it get that way. That's why we need to stop the blind follower act now, get our heads together, and work as a TEAM. We're letting the mafia win because we cba to come up with real reasons and we don't want to really look into things, either because we're afraid of being next on the list to die, because we just don't want to trudge through all those posts back there to find anything solid..or we have a LOT of scum in our midst who have the lazy act going on while in reality, they're working extra hard in the mafian forum to get us all killed for the victory. There's no way to know for certain. All we have to go by is the word of each other, and well...Like I said, "Guilty until proven innocent," and there are only two ways to be proven innocent: a fate like Godot's where they scream "I'm innocent, please believe me!" and end up with the noose around their neck anyway, or if a sane cop who isn't played by DD investigates the person and finds them to be innocent, then at some point, informs the town of their results for whatever reason.

Seeing that we're pushing each other to support our votes and thoughts makes me happy, because we're finally gaining a fighting chance. We CAN win, if we keep this up. Don't let any small details pass you by, because they can turn into fatal mistakes if we're not careful.

[M] Adama
06-15-2008, 12:12 PM
Luke: who rings most suspicious to you as of now and why?

[M] Adama
06-15-2008, 12:15 PM
On a lighter note, I really need to get better sleeping habits. Bed at 2ish, up at 5. Not cool D=

[M] Elize
06-15-2008, 12:34 PM
Franziska von Karma;2509238']Luke: who rings most suspicious to you as of now and why?

Honestly, I have no idea right now. I was so sure Godot was scum. My whole beliefs system has been shattered ;_;

[M] Adama
06-15-2008, 12:43 PM
Luke Atmey;2509251']
Franziska von Karma;2509238']Luke: who rings most suspicious to you as of now and why?

Honestly, I have no idea right now. I was so sure Godot was scum. My whole beliefs system has been shattered ;_;
*patpat* there, there. Reading old posts will help you find your new belief! FOLLOW THE LIGHT, LUKE, FOLLOW THE LIGHT!

Ahem.

Anyway.

Gant, why did you act as though we backed you into a corner? "Don't hold me accountable for what my previous player said!" We never said that we were holding you accountable, we're just watching you.

Paranoia does you no good.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
06-15-2008, 01:01 PM
Hi guys. Sorry for not posting before, but I had a friend over when the day started, and I'm going to bed now. Talk to you more tomorrow.

[M] Elize
06-15-2008, 01:23 PM
After reading through most of the thread again (almost 60 pages is way too much to read in one sitting) I've compiled a list of my prime suspects:

Plum Kitaki: Mostly because of bandwagoning and inactivity.
Damon Gant: It's seems highly likely to me that he was behind Kristoph's murder. As has been mentioned, all Kristoph did in day one was vote Gant. Therefore it's probable that Gant wanted him out of the way to save his own skin. It may have been a rash move on his part, but it screams scum to me.
Jean Armstong: He's too smart for my liking. Granted he might be trying to unite the town, but mostly it seems he's trying to turn us against each other. He may be a sexy manbeast, but he's definitely got some kind of power role. Mafia or not I don't know yet.

[M] Apollo
06-15-2008, 03:23 PM
Alright, I made a mistake yesterday, but I think today I can redeem myself.


Jean Armstong: He's too smart for my liking. Granted he might be trying to unite the town, but mostly it seems he's trying to turn us against each other. He may be a sexy manbeast, but he's definitely got some kind of power role. Mafia or not I don't know yet.

Now that he's finally given his opinions he's also finally made scum moves again.

I already didn't like his opinion against Jean, because he was unwilling to show it until someone else doubted Jean. Now he goes back to continue to try and plant a seed of guilt to Jean, why? Because he's "too smart" and he's "trying to turn us against each other." We're already against each other Luke, no one's been proven innocent yet! And we can't lynch someone for being smart out of fear they might be mafia, in that case every town would lose... which is probably what you want isn't it? :tongue:

And why do you think he has a power role? Because you and your mafian buddies tried to kill him and he didn't die last night?

GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY! xD
##vote: Luke Atmy

[M] Mom Host
06-15-2008, 03:56 PM
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[M] Elize
06-15-2008, 03:59 PM
Objection!

Dick's vote doesn't count because he misspelled my name :tongue:


Dick, if you have suspicions aginst me, fine. That's how the game goes. I don't know why I think Jean has a power role, it's just a gut feeling. Although it was my gut feeling that caused me to vote for Godot and that was a mistake. As for this:


And why do you think he has a power role? Because you and your mafian buddies tried to kill him and he didn't die last night?

Thanks for telling us why you and your fellow scum didn't couldn't kill anyone last night :tongue:

[M] Athena
06-15-2008, 05:22 PM
House-keeping, first. I've been going through this damn thread for like, an hour or two reading every post and making notes. Currently on Page 20 of 30 so I figured I should just make some replies before continuing.

I think I know the town status of certain people, and there are a few in my head who are setting off mafia signals.
Klavier Gavin;2509044']There are actually 19 people alive jean.
Yeah was basing that on 20 people. :laugh: I am silly. Speaking of 19, I could go for a 19 year old busboy right about now. I wonder how old Apollo Justice is.


Franziska von Karma;2509046']Oh, and Jean dear? Party in your pants tonight, me and you? :jokey:
Jean only likes men. ;)Someone's figured me out!


Franziska von Karma;2509061']Also, Jean is WAY too smart for his own good. Though, his EOFF identity has been in most of the mafia games, so this is most likely why. I just don't like how he comes in and posts only a couple of times, then disappears until the next day. So, he's pretty suspicious too.I've made more posts in this thread than you have, hotshot, and don't you forget it. :cool:


Klavier Gavin;2509082']I was looking back at day 1, and watched as one by one, votes switched from Hotti/Godot to Mia. Lamiroir was right in the middle, seeming to act on her own, but helping secure that Mia would die, knowing that Hotti would be discredeted.

Luke, you also slipped day 1. You accused several people of being scum in a joking tone, yet were still throwing names out there. I forgot what Psy called it in retro games mafia, something about throwing spaghetti at a wall. You also had no fear of Hotti, because you knew Mia was innocent and just slipped in a vote for her with the rest of the bandwagon.Yeah it's spaghetti plating. Not so sure if that applies to this situation tho'.


Franziska von Karma;2509235']Because the person behind Jean's character just oozes charisma. (Don't let that go to your head, you-know-who-you-are...I'll deflate it with a pin :aimkiss:)He probably has the most experience out of anyone playing, other than Levian...who died anyway and wasn't able to post except once, I believe, because he worked so much.I don't know who the hell you are but when I find out I am kicking your teeth in with my FEET!
Dick Gumshoe;2509299']Because you and your mafian buddies tried to kill him and he didn't die last night?I do believe I was their target yes, for reasons that shall not be revealed.

Told you jackasses not to target me.

House-keeping out of the way, I will move onto ass-kicking later. But if you'll excuse me, I have like, 300 more posts of crap to read!

[M] Anise
06-15-2008, 05:26 PM
Wow Jean, you posted just as I was pondering you. XD

[M] Anise
06-15-2008, 05:27 PM
##vote: Luke Atmey

And get that vote in before I forget again. :p

[M] Mom Host
06-15-2008, 07:05 PM
Come on. Do stuff, people. :(

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
06-15-2008, 07:07 PM
I am not entirely convinced that Luke is scum. I think he might just be a novice player. I am more prone to believe Plum, Furio and Lamiroir are scum.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
06-15-2008, 07:18 PM
Jean Armstrong;2509335']I do believe I was their target yes, for reasons that shall not be revealed.

Told you jackasses not to target me.

These reasons are moving you up on my list you were 3, now your 2. explain nows or face my vote change abilities.

[M] Joe - Army Dad
06-15-2008, 07:23 PM
I agree with Tigre. Jean, if you are ever gonna hide something from everyone, don't say you are. It makes you look bad.

[M] Apollo
06-15-2008, 07:24 PM
What? Why would you encourage him to roleclaim? Unless its something like "Bulletproof" that could just put a bullet in Jean's forehead.

I'm not going to chalk up Luke as "just being a newbie." The first time I played I was mafia and I used that excuse to get out of more then one sticky situation. I believe when someone is making scummy moves chalking it up to newbieness a mistake.

[M] Athena
06-15-2008, 07:35 PM
LET'S DO THIS THANG.

On Godot:
Confirmed Insane Cop says the guy is innocent, you've just got to go with it, you've just got to, or else what the hell is the point in having cops if you're just going to ignore them? Yes, okay, we now know Demon Dude was being an unfunny <img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" />heel and I think that's tipped what would have been a balanced game heavily into the mafia's favour.

From the good to the bad. There will be no Damon Gant and Klavier Gavin. Why? I want to see how certain events play out first. :excited:

Jean Armstrong:
Oh my lord he's smart he's smart he's smart he's smart. For the love of holy tits, townsfolk, stop this please. Say something original about me.

Plum and Furio Tiger.
I think they are town. I think they are nervous players who I think should play with more confidence and look for avenues of their own and express them, but they're not scum.

Franziska von Karma
Bit of spaghetti plating but they seem town to me.


Dick Gumshoe
Couple of things that have made me go "Hmm what" but yeah the dude seems town.

Emma Skye
Bit dodgy on the first day, posting more townish as the game goes on, no real problems here.

Wesley Stickler
That roleclaim out of nowhere is still pretty wtf for me. Perhaps it's a scum overeager to share a pre-prepared claim. But besides that, I think they're alright.

Bikini
I don't know what the fuck because of inactives. You could argue that because mafia is a good role and she had to be replaced, she might not be scum. ;)

Valant
Replacement logic? maybe, but Valant's "These people voted off the doctor and this forms the sole basis of my list of suspects" is scummy as hell though

Luke Atmey
A bit of chain lynching but as I read his posts, I couldn't see an ulterior motive behind any of it, so yeah. Townish, but someone to keep an eye on just in case.

Maya Fey
Seems to spend a lot of their time complaining about work and the amount of spam than actually posting about mafia! :p I really was not keen on the idea of lynching Luke to prove my own status.

Will Powers
Incredibly wishy washy. Like, to the max. Was straight on the Hotti claim on Day One (presumably if he is scum he'd know that Hotti was full of <img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" />) but then changed his mind and went with Mia. Day 2, I asked people to withold on Hotti for a bit and he did, but then later he goes right back onto Hotti again. Day 3, shifts between Godot and Plum. Seems too eager to go along with public opinion.

THE DODGY QUARTET!
Consists of Phoenix Wright, Apollo Justice, Trucy Wright and Miles Edgeworth.

To me all four have been keeping their heads down, making few posts and hardly showing a stance on most issues. Middle of the road, non-controversial stuff, and don't seem to want to make any waves. Phoenix Wright hasn't been around a lot, Trucy has been playing up the newbie angle. They often talk about sifting through the thread as an excuse to low activity (and hey I admit I just talked about that in my previous post but I came out and addressed some issues first rather than using it to stay out of sight) Miles is the worst of the four for all of this though, I feel. I really did not like his vote for Phoenix Wright for inactivity yesterday - he'd been bigging up Godot as the great Satan all day long but when it came down to Godot v Plum, he wussed out and went for Phoenix Wright out of the blue.

Larimoir
I 100% agree that Larimoir is extremely scummy. I might be repeating some of the stuff Franziska said but I read the thread in order so this is stuff I've been compiling.

On Day 1 she sat back, then popped in out of nowhere onto Mia after Godot and Gavin (both confirmed town which is important - mafia will not be voting in blocks, they will see what the townies do) do first.

Makes some bland contributions like
Here's a thought, why did the mafia kill Kristoph Gavin?" Franziska says it was to lead us down the wrong path; I disagree. It's to make it look like she's contributing but not. Seriously, I know who you are, Lammy Love - the act never works for long. :aimkiss: I know you know <img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /> like that doesn't help anyone. General non-controversial statement that you think nobody will bother even reading or answering.

And despite being inactive and keeping her head down, look who pops up as soon as she is called out properly. Ha.

[M] Athena
06-15-2008, 07:40 PM
Furio Tigre;2509396']
Jean Armstrong;2509335']I do believe I was their target yes, for reasons that shall not be revealed.

Told you jackasses not to target me.

These reasons are moving you up on my list you were 3, now your 2. explain nows or face my vote change abilities.Oh okay, I'm down for some bestiality. I'll make your tiger tiger burn bright before this night is through.

So, these reasons? Here you go.

HEY MAFIA!!!!

WANT TO KNOW MY ROLE????

I THINK I WILL ANNOUNCE IT TO THE ENTIRE TOWN SO THAT YOU WILL KNOW WHAT YOU ARE UP AGAINST!!!!
Will Powers;2509401']I agree with Tigre. Jean, if you are ever gonna hide something from everyone, don't say you are. It makes you look bad.So you want me to hide the fact that I am hiding something? :rolleyes2 And I don't care if it makes me look bad - if that's what it takes for me to tell the town I think it was me they were after, so be it.

Not explaining why I think it was me because it's to do with roles and if you guys don't like that, tough <img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" />. I'm not revealing it until I'm on the verge of being lynched.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
06-15-2008, 07:40 PM
I believe thats good enough to make me not care anymore you are near the bottom of my list good job

[M] Athena
06-15-2008, 07:45 PM
Hi-five, bud. :cool:

[M] Elize
06-15-2008, 07:47 PM
Considering that Jean was bottom of my suspect list already that speech has done nothing but make me want to hump his leg :cool:

[M] Colette
06-15-2008, 07:52 PM
To all the people who asked me why I said my previous post when no one suspected me. Well, the person above that post did, based on previous actions.

Then everyone starts talking about the death of Kristoph and that's exactly what my post would be about. I have no idea what happened there, I don't know why I would be held responsible and have absolutely no way to defend myself against that. Seems kind of unfair to hold that against me tbh. But do as you will, I will just keep playing.

gimme a sec to read up.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
06-15-2008, 07:53 PM
Luke Atmey;2509422']Considering that Jean was bottom of my suspect list already that speech has done nothing but make me want to hump his leg :cool:
I'd do that even when I suspected him:cool:

[M] Elize
06-15-2008, 07:55 PM
I'll have sex with him even if he turns out to be scum :love:

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
06-15-2008, 07:56 PM
too late I beat you to it

[M] Apollo
06-15-2008, 07:56 PM
I'm sorry but I can't ignore this.


Luke Atmey;2509422']Considering that Jean was bottom of my suspect list already that speech has done nothing but make me want to hump his leg :cool:


Luke Atmey;2509270']Jean Armstong: He's too smart for my liking. Granted he might be trying to unite the town, but mostly it seems he's trying to turn us against each other. He may be a sexy manbeast, but he's definitely got some kind of power role. Mafia or not I don't know yet.

[M] Mom Host
06-15-2008, 07:57 PM
Regarding Phoenix Wright: He said that he'd be busy for a couple of days but he'd try to pop in at least once a day to take part. He hasn't. >_>

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
06-15-2008, 07:57 PM
Why wait till now to make that post Jeany? :laugh:

[M] Athena
06-15-2008, 08:03 PM
Damon Gant;2509431']I don't know why I would be held responsible and have absolutely no way to defend myself against that. Seems kind of unfair to hold that against me tbh. Nah, it's perfectly fair to hold it against you if the guy you replaced acted scummy, sweet meat. It's a tough break, I'll give you that, but you agreed to be a replacement and knew what you were getting yourself into.

You can't just expect us to ignore the last three days of Damon Gant and work by what you've done since replacing him because then we'd have nothing whatsoever to go on.
Why wait till now to make that post Jeany? :laugh: I think it takes three days to get a full grasp of what everyone's all about really. When Day 4 started it was my bedtime, and since I got online today I've been reading the entire thread, making notes and typing up that thing. My notes still aren't even complete yet.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
06-15-2008, 08:06 PM
Dick Gumshoe;2509437']I'm sorry but I can't ignore this.


Luke Atmey;2509422']Considering that Jean was bottom of my suspect list already that speech has done nothing but make me want to hump his leg :cool:


Luke Atmey;2509270']Jean Armstong: He's too smart for my liking. Granted he might be trying to unite the town, but mostly it seems he's trying to turn us against each other. He may be a sexy manbeast, but he's definitely got some kind of power role. Mafia or not I don't know yet.
Muy bien Dicky nice catch care to explain luke

[M] Colette
06-15-2008, 08:08 PM
Okay here is my interpretation of the last two pages.

I make my post, and Bikini comes in.


Bikini;2509134']
Why? "Oh, you can't judge me, for I is replacement". The thing is, everything that happened before did happen, and its something that can and should be taken into consideration.

It seems very scummy to try to remove any evidence that can be used against you without a good reason as to why.

Very valid, and I can't say a word against it. I merely made notice of the fact that you can pour things against me from the first three days and I wont be able to defend against it.

Now look at the last line and then look at the post that comes directly behind it.


Lamiroir;2509164']I'll just say it, Gant is #1 on my list today, and now he is even more! On day 2 when I said, "think about why the mafia killed Kristoph" I looked at his posts, and, the only thing Kristoph did was vote for Gant. But, I more suspected Hotti that day, so i didn't want to get killed too in case I said something DX



I notice he keeps talking about wanting to be investigated. He said something about night time inspection at least twice. I read it earlier but i don't want to find it now.

Now, no one barely even said anything about him, and he says "sorry the person before me was playing scummy." No one even said that except him, why so paranoid!

One more thing i noticed when i was reading that seems weird, him and some other people I forgot seem to trust Jean so much ...why?



I'm leaving and putting my vote in case I don't get back, but, like I said I have more time now and i should be back XD



##Vote: Gant


He just does exactly what I asked him not to do, and does exactly what Plum predicted. He uses previous actions, plus the fact that I said to take it out of consideration to vote for me.

I dont like it. I don't suspect Plum at all, but this seemed off to me. 90% scum vibe I got there. Trying to get a kill from something that was stupid but had to be said to prevent confusion.

And there he is bringing that confusion right back into the game.

I don't get any scum vibes from Jean, because he is an very experienced player, but that doesn't mean that we should follow him to vote for people. Think for yourself first, then look what the rest does.

Luke seemed even more off to me. Instead of investigating all players including laminoir, he just investigates me, Plum and Jean. Seems very strange to me to not include a person who gives off the most scum vibe out of the whole bunch.

My list for the moment has

#1: Laminoir
#2: Luke

And Jean, you should let others post a little more. Otherwise newbie's will stay newbies.

[M] Elize
06-15-2008, 08:29 PM
Furio Tigre;2509451']
Dick Gumshoe;2509437']I'm sorry but I can't ignore this.


Luke Atmey;2509422']Considering that Jean was bottom of my suspect list already that speech has done nothing but make me want to hump his leg :cool:


Luke Atmey;2509270']Jean Armstong: He's too smart for my liking. Granted he might be trying to unite the town, but mostly it seems he's trying to turn us against each other. He may be a sexy manbeast, but he's definitely got some kind of power role. Mafia or not I don't know yet.
Muy bien Dicky nice catch care to explain luke

What's to explain? He's bottom of a list that only has three people on it :tongue:

[M] Athena
06-15-2008, 08:52 PM
And Jean, you should let others post a little more. Otherwise newbie's will stay newbies.People can still post whether or not I'm posting. But yeah people should rely on themselves more than they should on me.

And Luke, whose monocle could well be on my bedroom floor tonight, seeing as how there are almost certainly more than three mafia in a game this size, you should probably suspect more than three people :p

[M] Apollo
06-15-2008, 08:54 PM
Someone ask me a question I want to start some conversation in this thread... I just don't know what to say or what to ask :p

[M] Colette
06-15-2008, 08:57 PM
Dick Gumshoe;2509504']Someone ask me a question I want to start some conversation in this thread... I just don't know what to say or what to ask :p

Very well, seeing as there should be a lot more players and a lot more mafia.

Who is lurking and how many mafia do you think is in those lurkers?

I only have 2 on my mafia radar and I think the rest is hoping to remain unsuspected by lurking.

[M] Elize
06-15-2008, 08:57 PM
Jean Armstrong;2509500']
And Luke, whose monocle could well be on my bedroom floor tonight, seeing as how there are almost certainly more than three mafia in a game this size, you should probably suspect more than three people :p

Those are the three people I suspect right now. There could well be more if I read the rest of the thread again.

And play your cards right and more than my monocle will be on your bedroom floor tonight ;)

[M] Apollo
06-15-2008, 09:02 PM
There are a lot of people who are barely here. The ones that bother me most are the ones who show up periodically as mafians don't normally stay completely inactive. They would be:

Plum
Edgeworth
Lamiroir
Apollo Justice
Trucy Wright
Wesley Stickler

Naturally they aren't all definitly mafia, but I'd like to see and hear them more. The bolded ones have my attention because of either poor play, or taking others reasoning.

[M] Athena
06-15-2008, 09:17 PM
Posted with real account. Hahaha, like any of you don't know it is me anyway. :p


Do you have any thoughts on Will now that I have posted mine, Dick? Like, anything you want to expand on? (like the bulge in my pants, baby ;)) Going through the thread I made a note that you didn't seem too keen on him.

[M] Apollo
06-15-2008, 09:24 PM
He does seem wishy washy I agree with that, and to expand on that idea, he also hasn't provided very much of his own thoughts. He's givin' me them vibes. But I can't get anything real tangable other then wishy washy, and lack of own ideas. This has been a consistant problem for me this game.

[M] Dave Stepdad
06-15-2008, 09:44 PM
Okay, I haven't completely caught up on all of the posts yet, but I I'm just going to say I'm here.

From what I've read so far I've been called a hit-and-run and inactive poster and that's just not true! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/jesse053/Ace%20Attorney/smiliephoenixcry.gif

Goodness, I was only gone for a day and...a half now, is it? I was taken to Mexico against my will friday and wasn't returned to my home until now. I also went to a waterpark and suffered horrible horrible sunburns. Not worth it. I guess my partner didn't pick things up while I was gone :p


Now I will finish reading so I can get caught up xD

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
06-15-2008, 09:59 PM
I don't really like how Plum escaped a lynching yesterday, and she didn't really even defend herself. I'm too lazy to go look back at the old posts, but it was something along the lines of, "yeah okay whatever i give up, btw hope mafia wins." Yeah, something like that. Plum, why did you give up so easily? I seriously just held suspicions against you because of your dodgy posting stuff.

[M] Dee
06-15-2008, 10:02 PM
I's back like I said! Sorry I didn't do exactly what you told me to do Gant, but I'm not just going to ignore my suspicions when you said "don't look at what the person before me did, ignore the last 3 days!" XD That just makes you more suspicious.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
06-15-2008, 10:13 PM
I think Gant was just saying that he wouldn't be able to defend whatever the other person said. He wasn't telling us to ignore it. Though, I don't really see what's the problem. As long as you know who you are and read through the posts well enough, then you should be fine ...

[M] Dee
06-15-2008, 10:37 PM
He uses previous actions, plus the fact that I said to take it out of consideration to vote for me. He did mean ignore it :tongue:


f you have a general scum vibe coming from me, a little understandable as for a pro-town role he/she played pretty scummely that's what really gets me XD don't see why a pro-town would say that when they've barely got suspicion on them ...so he was mentioned once, it wasn't even a strong mention.

Well about Jean too, I didn't mention it because I didn't know Jean is a smart player, but, because anyone who listens him so much is dumb town or knows that Jean is town ...meaning they are mafia. There were some other ppl i got that vibe from but Gant was the one that stuck out most ...there's no way these people can know unless they are the cop and say "I investigated Jean Will and Apollo, they're all innocent!" etc whatever or something, and, no way all these people can all be cops XD ... just seemed scummy.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
06-15-2008, 10:50 PM
God finally caught up. Damn there's so much more talking in this game then past ones. XD

And Levian was town? But Levian is never town. :mad2:

I'm glad to see no one died last night. Looks like we have either a bulletproof role or another doctor type role. Still sucks that we lost one doctor though. I really had my money on Godot being scum.

I see a little was brought up against me about inactivity, and to be honest some cases I didn't have as much to contribute that wasn't already said, and I've been uber tired from too much work. I have a partner but he honestly hasn't even logged on once. :mad2:

Though honestly I'm surprised I didn't get more people calling me out as scum. Regardless I still wanna defend myself against some of Ema's accusations.


Miles comes out as the last voter for Mia Fey, moving his vote from Phoenix Wright to her. Moves his vote off the person he votes for to join the person he voted for against Mia? WTF, mate? I know it was only Day 1 and things happen, just sayin' it's a bitto weirdo to me.

Firstly to start I voted Mia because between her and Hotti we had one possible scum and one possible cop. I went with the safest option, believing in the cop role claim. It didn't work as I got the last vote on a townie which made my decision to go for Hotti the next day on thoughts of him being scum quite warranted I do believe.

As far as the "WTF" comment. I don't understand. You seem to be saying it's weird that I voted Mia because Phoenix Wright did. But in the vote count you yourself posted it shows that his vote was only previously on her. To me it seems a bit weird what your trying to get at by wrong information here.

As far as who I'm suspecting now, Luke has some suspicion in my eye, but not the most. Lamiroir seems one of the strangest to me at the moment as many have brought up, but I'll need to read over some more to get a better grasp. Plum is another one that I still find suspicious, I just didn't like how fast she gave up and just how quickly suspicion fell off of her. I'm still not quite sure what to think of her.

I don't have enough suspicion though to warrant a vote on anyone, so I'll hold off for the moment. To be honest I might be a bit lacking in this day just due to work (I just got off and I work again in 12 hours X.X ) but I'll try my best to keep up.

As far as what to take from yesterday. Godot is confirmed doctor. I think it would be good to especially look into who voted for him and those suspicious against him (yes even me) I would be surprised if no mafia went after him, so chances are at least one person that worked on lynching him was scum. It's something I'm planning to look over when I get more of a chance.

[M] Colette
06-15-2008, 10:59 PM
Lamiroir;2509618']
He uses previous actions, plus the fact that I said to take it out of consideration to vote for me. He did mean ignore it :tongue:


f you have a general scum vibe coming from me, a little understandable as for a pro-town role he/she played pretty scummely that's what really gets me XD don't see why a pro-town would say that when they've barely got suspicion on them ...so he was mentioned once, it wasn't even a strong mention.



Again, that was my first real post. The entire idea of that post was to make clear that I cannot defend the actions of my predeccesor.

So you bringing up stuff from 3 days ago doesnt really help as all I can do is stand here, smile and wonder why the hell the other guy did all that.

But seeing as saying that made people mention it even more, I see that intelligence is once again second place in mafia, and therefore wasn't a great move, as it takes the focus off of you and Luke.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
06-15-2008, 11:52 PM
Valant Gramarye;2509043']The following people are now on my suspect list on account of voting off Godot even after he role claimed doctor:
Plum Kit



Judge;2508394']<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cols="7" frame="void" rules="none"> <colgroup><col width="20"><col width="155"><col width="86"><col width="86"><col width="86"><col width="86"><col width="86"></colgroup> <tbody> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left" height="34" width="20">[5]</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left" width="155">[M] Godot:</td> <td align="left" width="86">[M] Lamiroir</td> <td align="left" width="86">[M] Ema Skye</td> <td align="left" width="86">[M] Luke Atmey</td> <td align="left" width="86">[M] Plum Kitaki</td> <td align="left" width="86">[M] Will Powers</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">[M] Jean Armstrong</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">[M] Wesley Stickler</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">[M] Damon Gant</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left" height="34">[5]</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left">[M] Plum Kitaki: </td> <td align="left">[M] Godot</td> <td align="left">[M] Bikini</td> <td align="left">[M] Wesley Stickler</td> <td align="left">[M] Damon Gant</td> <td align="left">
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">[M] Apollo Justice</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">[M] Will Powers</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">[M] Maya Fey</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">[M] Furio Tigre</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">[M] Franziska von Karma</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left" height="34">[2]</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left">[M] Trucy Wright:</td> <td align="left">[M] Klavier Gavin</td> <td align="left">[M] Furio Tigre</td> <td align="left">
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I UnVoted Godot before he was lynched.:mad2:

[M] Joe - Army Dad
06-16-2008, 12:05 AM
I am just going to vote plum here for two reasons. One I have said before and many other people also have. the other needs some explanation and a roleclaim. I am a Roleblocker. Last night, I roleblocked Plum. I think this might be a reason why there were no kills. I am not entirely sure, and it isn't 100%, but I think with everything else, it is enough to vote her.

I said in the question thread that I had a plan for godot. I was gonna block him and see how many kills there were in the next day. It wouldn't have been 100%, but I still think it would have been enough.

##vote: Plum

[M] Mom Host
06-16-2008, 12:13 AM
<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cols="5" frame="void" rules="none"> <colgroup><col width="21"><col width="139"><col width="86"><col width="86"><col width="86"></colgroup> <tbody> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left" height="34" width="21">[2]</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left" width="139">[M] Lamiroir:</td> <td align="left" width="86">[M] Franziska von Karma</td> <td align="left" width="86">[M] Furio Tigre</td> <td align="left" width="86">
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About 5 hours left in the day.

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 12:14 AM
That's interesting. Can we assume there's another doctor too though? With 25 people, I think there's got to be more than one protector.

[M] Elize
06-16-2008, 12:19 AM
##Vote: Damon Gant

This is for reasons I've already stated. It's definitely odd that Kristoph was killed when his sole action in the game was to vote for Damon (unless I missed a few posts). He may be a replacement but his role is still the same, and that role is likely scum.

Edit: Well I'm off to bed. Later taters.

[M] Helo
06-16-2008, 12:23 AM
Will, that's some persuasive claiming. Not that it would be that informative, but maybe you could go over who you roleblocked the other two nights?

The evidence against Plum is now pretty strong, at least if we are to believe Will Powers (I don't see any reason not to, but we have to be cautious so we don't lose any more Townies). Luke's still on my suspect list, and now so is Lamiroir (sidenote: stop spelling this name wrong! it's right next to their posts! :mad2:).

Hey Gant, I never really considered you a suspect the first three days. Now I'm changing my outlook. Why the paranoia, mate?

Speaking of paranoia, I was being paranoid in my roleclaiming. It was not a smart move, I'll admit that. I've played Mafia before, just differently, and I was wrong in the way I've been playing this role.

[M] Athena
06-16-2008, 12:23 AM
Will Powers;2509709']I am just going to vote plum here for two reasons. One I have said before and many other people also have. the other needs some explanation and a roleclaim. I am a Roleblocker. Last night, I roleblocked Plum. I think this might be a reason why there were no kills. I am not entirely sure, and it isn't 100%, but I think with everything else, it is enough to vote her.

I said in the question thread that I had a plan for godot. I was gonna block him and see how many kills there were in the next day. It wouldn't have been 100%, but I still think it would have been enough.

##vote: PlumWhy did you colour this text purple? MAYBE YOU'D LIKE TO SEE MY PURPLE HEADED WARRIOR BABY.

But uh...I don't get that plan.

Lamiroir;2509717']That's interesting. Can we assume there's another doctor too though? With 25 people, I think there's got to be more than one protector.Hmm. So maybe Plum isn't mafia and you're still fishing as to why the kill didn't work? ;)

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
06-16-2008, 12:33 AM
It's definitely odd that Kristoph was killed when his sole action in the game was to vote for Damon (unless I missed a few posts).

Can you say, "Set Up?". Really now no mafia with half a brain would off a guy under those conditions. It's too obvious. Let alone should someone consider THAT to be a sole reason to vote someone off when more people have far better reasons to vote against them. Luke is smelling more and more like scum to me now.

As far as Will goes, I kind of believe him. Last night no kill, so that could mean several things, a recruit happened, a protector role did their job, or a role blocker blocked the right person.

My main reason for believing in Will's claim for Plum is simply because it would be a bad move for a mafia to make a random claim. If we kill Plum and she flips scum, then Will knew one way or the other she was scum. But if she's town he's either another Hotti or a mafia trying to get a townie killed, which would be a dumb move as clearly tomorrow we would lynch Will so it would be one dead townie for the price of a mafia. Bad move no matter how you slice it.

Although with role blocker there's no garentee that he blocked the kill however, which is the only problem I see here.

[M] Anise
06-16-2008, 12:54 AM
I agree with edgy in that there is no way of knowing if a kill was blocked or not.

I'm starting to think Will is innocent, cause I can't see a Mafia pulling Role blocker out on us unless he is a Prostitute, and can thus prove he can block roles much like a Roleblocker.

In a sense this is the same as telling a cop to investigate you if you're the Godfather.

However with that Idea being thrown around already I doubt a Mafia would try it with their Roleblocker, so for now I think I'll believe Mr. Powers.

However, if Plum IS a killer, I believe she is one of three things.

Note, if any of this is wrong feel free to correct me.
1) If Mafia Godftather is roleblocked, Mafia Kill doesn't go off. (I believe it said this was only an optional rule, so If your honor would be so kind as to clarify what would happen in this situation, I'd be grateful.)

2) A serial Killer being blocked will stop their kill.

So, if Plum is Scum, she is likely one of those two roles.

But again, there are so many things that could have happened, that I'm not willing to use this against Plum quite yet. (Not saying I won't in the future though, as it could play an interesting piece in the puzzle).

However, for the again reason that so many things could have happened, it was a rather bad time to Roleclaim, as it hasn't really gotten us anywhere, and has revealed a town power role.

If you wouldn't mind, who were your Night 1-3 roleblocks, since this role is now out n the open.

[M] Anise
06-16-2008, 12:55 AM
And by one of three things, I meant one of two things. :p

[M] Helo
06-16-2008, 01:06 AM
Alrighty, I'm going to be busy the rest of the day, so I shall put my vote in. For Luke.

It's disappointing that I won't be able to see Will's roleblock choices until the day is over! And nothing else from Luke or Lamiroir, either. Ah well.

Hopefully I'll see most of you fine people again on Day 5!

##Vote: Luke Atmey

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 01:12 AM
Oh yes, Will! Godot's role was green, and Hotti's was green when they announced his lynching, so why is yours purple?

[M] Al - Biker Dad
06-16-2008, 01:18 AM
I think a town roleblocker's role colour is purple.

[M] Athena
06-16-2008, 01:18 AM
Yeah that's what I asked, but I did so in a way that wasn't obvious as hell :p

Speaking of obvious, am I the only one who thinks Wesley Stickler is obviously trying to make a move on me?

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 01:22 AM
I know Plum, I was ju ...Lol that's you. Don't you have anything else to say about the roleblock ...?

[M] Mom Host
06-16-2008, 01:27 AM
1) If Mafia Godftather is roleblocked, Mafia Kill doesn't go off. (I believe it said this was only an optional rule, so If your honor would be so kind as to clarify what would happen in this situation, I'd be grateful.)

I've never even heard of that rule, so that's a negative. xP

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
06-16-2008, 01:37 AM
Day 2 stuff.

Damon Gant;2506795']Jean-Gove me one good reason why I shouldn't vore for you right now. Because I'm feeling you may be Mafia.
EDIT-Damn. Jean, I say 'she' because I think I know who you are, but whatever. Secondly, we can attack the inactives when they start actually doing something.
I'm pretty sure Jean is not scum. Secondly, what? Attack inactives when they start doing something? That's point of going after inactives: they're not doing anything.

Damon Gant;2506788']You're right, Jean's been pulling stuff out of her ass. Why the hell would someone attacl inactive as this point? It's not Day 1, what suspicion does someone who barely posts bring to the table of suspicion?
Same thing. I think Jean is a good guy and inactives should be persecuted.

Phoenix Wright;2506730']Oh crap, we didn't get majority already, did we?
##Unvote: Hotti
Same as Will's comment before on Day 1; I don't like it when people say obvious, obvious things like this. Sounds fake.

If Hotti turns up innocent, I will suspect Godot, for this was his plan all along, and he just cost two (albeit one horrible) townies, and he has a possible free kill later on, so Godot better pray he's innocent.
Still pulling the chain lynch scheme from what it seems to me. Also stringing Godot into it. Possible foreshadowing?

Phoenix Wright;2506633']These were the votes yesterday except for Edgeworth, who changed his vote to Mia. At least one mafia member voted for Mia, is my guess.

##Vote: Director Hotti
I agree. And in actuality, you said it before I did. But that doesn't change the fact that I think you and probably another were the one(s) doing the scum work in that vote.

Phoenix Wright;2506627']I'm not sure if there could even be a jester in this game, very few hosts approve of the role.
...but I don't want to lynch a jester and lose, either. I guess we need to decide if it's worth taking a chance.
To me, it's like you're trying to show everyone some internal struggle. I'm not buying it at all. Sorry.

Phoenix Wright;2506622']Hotti is confusing me! The mafia probably wouldn't tell the town to lynch a fellow townie on day one, but then again he seems to have made a lot of people think he's a jester by acting weird. My guess is that he's a townie with some special posting rules or one of the many newbies that are playing this round.
People I find suspicious:
Stickler
Will Powers
Lamiroir
Klavier
...mostly for being around while not really posting much.
I like the list you made. Mostly because I suspect you as scum so that leads me to believe you've stuck a scum name in there with you. (i.e. Will Powers.) :choc2:

Franziska von Karma;2506560']Hotti, I know perfectly well how to read. Your reasoning has no real backing or cause to it, m'love :kiss: "OMG YOU VOTED FOR ME YOU'RE MAFIA SCUM!" is not a reason. No, no, it's not at all. Sorry! :p You're in the doghouse as it is, why not either wise up or shut up? :)
Also, where are Plum and Tigre? I've only seen...2, maybe 3 posts from Plum, havent' heard from Tigre since day one.. Are they in, like, Antarctica's time zone or what?:Oo:
I find myself agreeing with you a lot, Franziska. Makes me feel sorry for voting for you on Day 1. :lol:
Don't forget about Plum, people. Tigre, in my opinion, isn't sending off the vibes. But you guys have the right to think what you want about him. I'm totally unsure about him to be honest.

Godot;2506486']Okay, here I go.

My List of Suspects:

-Furio Tigre

-Plum Kitaki

-Director Hotti

I went through this thread, and I found a post by Mia Fey that could be really useful. She had a lot of good advice!


There is always one mafian member who posts as little as possible, sometimes not at all, just hoping to glide their way through (Auron, Hsu, Ditto). So, voting an inactive off usually gives you a chance at finding a mafian.

Furio and Plum both seem to fit the bill. Furio's erratic, random voting and bandwaggoning makes him looks shady. I want to see what he has to say.

Will, I agree with you on Plum. She's simply too low key, and offers no explanations on her votes. She posts just enough so we don't forget her, but not enough to really contribute.

And I added Hotti on my list too, but I think y'all already know why! :jess:
Same as I said above. Plum is chilling in the shadows and she's getting away with it even with her name being thrown around all over the place. What a hell's goin' on?

Will Powers;2509709']I am just going to vote plum here for two reasons. One I have said before and many other people also have. the other needs some explanation and a roleclaim. I am a Roleblocker. Last night, I roleblocked Plum. I think this might be a reason why there were no kills. I am not entirely sure, and it isn't 100%, but I think with everything else, it is enough to vote her.
I said in the question thread that I had a plan for godot. I was gonna block him and see how many kills there were in the next day. It wouldn't have been 100%, but I still think it would have been enough.
##vote: Plum
Hehe. Here comes the fun part of my post. :choc2:
I don't believe you. Mostly because I don't like you but secondly because I'm a Roleblocker. I find it hard to believe that there would be two. :monster:
You've been #1 on my bad man list and now you've really tripped the OH SHI- alarm. Plus, you bring up Plum as your proof when I really suspect her as well. Maybe to take some heat off of her since people are bringing up her name way too often? I think both of you are give me an S, give me a C, give me a U, give me an M. SCUM.
Die right now, Will Powers. :bigsmile:

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
06-16-2008, 01:38 AM
What's with all this color debate in this game? We've always used those colors for telling roles previously. Although Cult was a dark purple and Role blocker was light purple. :p

[M] Anise
06-16-2008, 01:39 AM
Alright, just making sure. :p

So to shorten down what I said, if Plum is a Killer, she's likely a Serial Killer then. :p

Mind you thats just a guess and a possobility that is open due to your claim. She could still very well be Mafia Scum and all night kills were either not preformed for some reason or stopped.

Though Plums lack of trying to defned herself lends suspicion to the Anti-Plum Case.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
06-16-2008, 01:42 AM
And since I forgot this:

##Vote: Will Powers

[M] Anise
06-16-2008, 01:42 AM
God damn it.

Another Roleblocker claim

I don't know what to believe anymore.

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 01:42 AM
Ema Skye;2509760']
I don't believe you. Mostly because I don't like you but secondly because I'm a Roleblocker. I find it hard to believe that there would be two. :monster: What? The. Hell?

Gimme a sec.

[M] Anise
06-16-2008, 01:43 AM
Okay then, both of you, who did you role block nights 1-3?

[M] Apollo
06-16-2008, 01:43 AM
Wow, very interesting.

This is how I see things. I agree with Ema there aren't two Roleblockers, therefore one of you is mafia. My guess is that Will has a role that will get him out of him being wrong about Plum which is why he was willing to make that argument (Godfather, a role that kills himself any would do). The fact that he could be wrong and his roleclaim would still be possible makes it more likely.

I'm close to changing my vote, but before I do, who did you block Ema?

[M] Al - Biker Dad
06-16-2008, 01:45 AM
Bikini;2509764']Though Plums lack of trying to defned herself lends suspicion to the Anti-Plum Case.

I don't see a way of defending myself, that's why.

[M] Joe - Army Dad
06-16-2008, 01:46 AM
Alright then. Have a cop investigate us both.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
06-16-2008, 01:47 AM
I blocked Jean Night 1. Only one kill, so I blocked Jean again Night 2. Two kills Night 2 so I switched it up. I "also" blocked Plum on Night 3. :choc2:

[M] Apollo
06-16-2008, 01:49 AM
Will an innocent investigation doesn't prove anything. It also requires us to draw out a cop making a mafian roleclaim worth it. +2 scummienes.

Unvote: Luke
Vote: Will Powers

[M] Adama
06-16-2008, 01:50 AM
Wow, lots of new stuffs while I was out with my dad for father's day :Oo: I will catch up tomorrow morning, as I've had a particularly draining day and I need my sleep.

Later. :aimkiss:

[M] Athena
06-16-2008, 01:51 AM
If Will - handsome man he is - is telling the truth, why would he claim? A roleblock followed by no night kill isn't really proof of anything.

The purple thing shoots up flags because yeah, Doctor is green, Insane Cop was green, and my own non-vanilla role that could conceivably have a different colour has green text too.

But then

if he's scum, why would he claim roleblocker falsely?

Seriously, what the hell does he have to gain from getting Plum lynched when a lot of you think that's a good idea to begin with? Unless maybe she's one of his own, and he's bussing her to prove his roleblocker claim or something.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
06-16-2008, 01:53 AM
2 role blockers? Not a chance. One of you is lying. Clearly.


I "also" blocked Plum on Night 3.

That's awfully convenient. Same night 3 block as the first role claim. I don't think that means your the lying one, but I still find it a bit fishy.

Will what was your first 2 night blocks?

[M] Joe - Army Dad
06-16-2008, 01:57 AM
I dont need to block anyone if I dont need to, as it says in my role pm, so night one I was afraid of getting cop and decided not to block anyone. Night two I blocked Tigre, because I thought he might have been scum, acting like plum.

[M] Apollo
06-16-2008, 01:57 AM
@Jean: The mafia could be closer to winning then we think, or perhaps he has a role which controlling this days vote would be conivient (mafia janitor anyone?). Either way one is lying so one must go.

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 02:00 AM
I have a very large post typed up, but first. Will, why did you write your role as purple?

[M] Joe - Army Dad
06-16-2008, 02:02 AM
I didnt like how it was green. It has always been purple and damnit it should stay that way.

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 02:02 AM
So it was green in your role PM?

Ema, did your role PM say you didn't have to roleblock if you didn't want to as well?

[M] Athena
06-16-2008, 02:04 AM
I don't suppose we have a Watcher in the house, do we? I think I might have been a bit of a magnet for night actions on Night 1 and 2 so hopefully they watched me.
That's awfully convenient. Same night 3 block as the first role claim. I don't think that means your the lying one, but I still find it a bit fishy.Good point.
@Jean: The mafia could be closer to winning then we think, or perhaps he has a role which controlling this days vote would be conivient (mafia janitor anyone?). Either way one is lying so one must go. You could be right there, my little sweetcake. Although if they were going down the Janitor route, a cop/tracker gambit would be a hell of a lot better than a Roleblocker one.

Another alternative is that we do actually have two Roleblockers.


I didnt like how it was green. It has always been purple and damnit it should stay that way. If you are telling the truth, you just screwed yourself over with your colour preferences. I don't like how it took you so long to answer this question, like you were thinking of an excuse.

For the record, it's Cult Leader that is purple. This is more of a roleblocker colour.

[M] Apollo
06-16-2008, 02:07 AM
True but we already had an insane cop perhaps they didn't think we'd buy it? I know just last game I had come up with a plan to user a mafia poisoner to dely a kill a day, then claim I protected (scummate) to clear a name. Perhaps the new team is thinking something similar? I doubt we'd have two roleblockers, WITH a Doctor.

[M] Joe - Army Dad
06-16-2008, 02:07 AM
Lamiroir;2509780']I have a very large post typed up, but first. Will, why did you write your role as purple?

I said this 2 minutes after this post here...

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 02:10 AM
Stop! (Drop! And roll!) I'm coming out (of the closet). ^_^

Hi. I'm your friendly resident Cop. For the record, it wasn't blue, it was exactly that color.


Lamiroir;2509618']Well about Jean too, I didn't mention it because I didn't know Jean is a smart player, but, because anyone who listens him so much is dumb town or knows that Jean is town ...meaning they are mafia. There were some other ppl i got that vibe from but Gant was the one that stuck out most ...there's no way these people can know unless they are the cop and say "I investigated Jean Will and Apollo, they're all innocent!" etc whatever or something, and, no way all these people can all be cops XD ... just seemed scummy.

Here's the thing. I doubt the mods would put two insane cops in, and I doubt that I would be a naive cop either, seeing as how one of the mods has told me on multiple occasions that he/she does not like naive cops. I'm going to assume, for the moment, that I am a normal, sane cop.

Yes, I was intentionally staying low. And I was intentionally typing like an idiot. Staying low suited me because it made me just suspicious enough so that I was being mentioned and kept on the suspicion list, but not enough so that people voted for me. Being a suspect would guarantee that I didn't die at night. I said yesterday I would be more active today because I planned on coming out today anyway, but after Godot's death I thought I would potentially hold off another day, seeing as how I kinda needed him. I also knew Jean would get super paranoid and make way too much out of my posts as soon as he knew who I was, and that it was bad if any mafia could figure out who I was.

Now, here's the confusing part. Will's purple - hmm. Ema's coming out to claim roleblocker - that puts suspicion on Will. ...But I investigated Will. I don't see why he would claim roleblocker if he wasn't, and I don't see even more why Ema would claim roleblocker if she actually wasn't.

Night 1: Jean Armstrong. I invesigated him because I noticed right away who played his character, and I wanted this person either out of my way or out of my suspicions ASAP.
Night 2: Will Powers. I think some of his posts brought up some suspicions. I also saw him as a lay-lower who could potentially be intelligent. I didn't investigate Godot because I was gullible and actually believed Demon Dude. Hell, he was a cop - how the heck am I supposed to guess that he didn't investigate <i>anyone</i>? Fail as hell! Yeah, I figured an investigation on Godot would be a wasted one at that point.
Night 3: Apollo Justice. I was having a hard time deciding between Apollo Justice, Pheonix Wright, and Damon Gant. Pheonix made himself slightly more of a presence than Apollo, and I figured that if Apollo did indeed turn out to be innocent, I would have a stronger case against Damon Gant. Whereas, if Damon turned out to be innocent, I would really have no idea where to go next.

I tried to avoid investigating people that already had a lot of suspicion placed on them due to the possibility of a mafia framer. The judge wouldn't give me my results before the night was over due to "outside factors," and what those are, your guess is as good as mine. It could have just been the roleblocker(s?), or there can be other factors as well.

Now, could any of these people I investigated be the godfather? Sure. Could they have been recruited last night? Sure. But I was willing to trust my investigations for the moment.

...But this double roleblocker thing is bloody confusing me. Could there be two roleblockers? Could be, but seems unlikely.

Now, I do believe there's another doctor or protective role in this game. With 2 cops and 25 people, I seriously would not be surprised if there was a white mage/another doctor of some sort/etc. So, doctor? Hi.

[M] Athena
06-16-2008, 02:11 AM
Except I asked you almost two hours ago and Lamiroir asked you first an hour after I did.

And Dick, oh my throbbing Dick, I had the same thought. But with the fail of their nightkill following on from the death of a doctor, presumably they will have considered the possibility of us having a roleblocker and thus the risk of being counterclaimed.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
06-16-2008, 02:11 AM
No, it didn't say I had any restrictions. I can block one person per night.

[M] Anise
06-16-2008, 02:12 AM
You know, someone needs to die.

Until I get confirmation on Gay boys role, I'll not be satisfied with his deductions of Mafia targeting him. But really outside of my nervousness, I can't find much reason to suspect hm of anything, so I'll hold off for now and re-examine his posts later.

Luke and Damon are still top suspects.

And finally, on the whole Roleblocker situation, there are so many different reasons it could have played out like it did, I have the strongest urge not to touch this one, but it needs to be touched.

And I think Jean is the man to do it.

And after he finishes touching, hopefully I'll have thought up some good reasoning to lynch one of the fuckers, or save both their butts.

[M] Athena
06-16-2008, 02:15 AM
Yeah Lamiroir I knew you were Yamanekoing it from the moment I saw that post but didn't really want to say anything to draw attention to it. :p Wondered what the fuck was up with it tbh.
I doubt that I would be a naive cop either, seeing as how one of the mods has told me on multiple occasions that he/she does not like naive cops.Make no mistake, I will hold you to this.

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 02:17 AM
I'M NOT 100% SURE OKAY. But I think it's safer to assume that I'm not than that I am. @_@

[M] Anise
06-16-2008, 02:17 AM
DAMMIT! Wait until I post before you start posting.

And I'm very hesitant to believe that Cop Claim. It's another thing I can see multiple reasonings for, and why a Cop would have left Hotti alone after his claim and waited, and why a Mafia would wait this long to claim.

So we'd best be hearing your reasoning soon for not saying something earlier about Godot.

Regardless, I probably won't vote you, as I have Ideas as of why you would myself.

I'd just rather here them from you now. :p

[M] Apollo
06-16-2008, 02:19 AM
Wow.

Hot damn.

Anyway, call me a sucker but I guess I have to believe that roleclaim.

##Unvote: Will
##Vote: Ema

[M] Dave Stepdad
06-16-2008, 02:21 AM
OKAY! I hate missing too much time, I can't ever get completely back on track >.<

...but here's what I think:

There is absolutely no way we have two Role Blockers and a doctor, unless one of them is scum.. Either Emma or Will is scum and/or lying.

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 02:21 AM
I didn't say go after Ema either. I really, really don't see why Ema would claim roleblocker as well. I mean, if we got Will killed today and he actually was a roleblocker, wouldn't that just make everyone want to lynch her tomorrow?

Bikini you're crackin' ;D Learn to read. See night 2 investigation - I said why I didn't investigate Godot.

[M] Colette
06-16-2008, 02:21 AM
Just a sidenote, If a godfather gets investigated, it turns up green.

Anyway, A cop roleclaim is easy to check. Because the doctor is now gone, either laminoir is going to get killed tonight, he is scum, or the mafia will be roleblocked.

The last option I doubt, because in the only two games where I played mafia they have to choose who does the kill. so Im guessing they will switch the kill to someone we have no clue of after a blocked kill.

One thing I find very curious. The only three people that Laminoir investigated are two people the previous confirmed cop investigated.. and the one that is being suspected of bad roleclaiming right now.

Perhaps a last ditch effort to keep a mafia alive?

I do not believe this roleclaim, as it seems awfully convenient. Two investigations would be "confirmed" and one would clear someone who is suspected.

Reeks of scumminess.

I'm pretty sure that Laminoir and Luke are in the same mix, whatever it is(mason, cult or mafia). About the roleclaims I would have no idea, as they could both be true.

[M] Anise
06-16-2008, 02:23 AM
I'll let you guys decide whether or not you want to lynch one of those two today.

I'm all for continuing discussion on it after the alleged Cop posts responding to me, but I'm not sure I'll be inclined to change my vote to either one, as Luke is still my topic suspect, as there is not real way to know if Ema is guilty right now.

If this is a face Roleclaim, we're taking the bait.

If it's real, there's still a chance of a second roleblocker, and I'd like to wait a night to give the supposed Cop another investigation to try and gauge a bit more trust in her.

So, until further notice, my vote sticks with Luke.

[M] Anise
06-16-2008, 02:24 AM
I don't care about Godot, I want to know why you said nothing about the other cop claim, something other then "Lay Low".

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 02:25 AM
Ha ha, funny, Damon. Interesting. So if I don't get killed tonight, I'm scum? What makes you think there can't be two doctors? I think there is.

Also, I don't know what mafia game you've been playing if you think the "other cop" investigated anyone.

Seriously, if someone else wants to come out and contradict what I said, go on. I dare you. And after I get lynched or killed, you'll know you're next. ;) (Okay, I guess there COULD be three cops, but I'm going to doubt that very much)

I have no possible reason for coming out right now if I weren't really the cop, seeing the controversy between Ema and Will. For now, we need to decide what to do today, because we have what, 2 hours left?

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 02:25 AM
Because there could bloody well have been two cops, as we find out now. :P

[M] Anise
06-16-2008, 02:30 AM
Alright, I was hoping if you were lying you would slip up and say something stupid. :p

For now though, there really isn't anything to gauge from that.

Really thats the last Idea I had up my sleeve. :p

[M] Apollo
06-16-2008, 02:31 AM
Wait what? You'd believe there's two doctors and a roleblocker? But you don't buy two roleblockers? -1 on your roleclaim.

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 02:33 AM
Okay, next thought. They COULD both be roleblockers, but why would Will have that he didn't have to roleblock anyone in his role PM, and Ema didn't? If they were both roleblockers, I'm guessing they would have similar role PMs, right?

...Why would the mods even write that in?

Theory: Is Will the Godfather, looking to sacrifice Plum (fellow mafian - yes I said mafian, hah xD) to bring more credibility to himself?

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 02:33 AM
Yes, I find two roleblockers highly unlikely. See above.

Doctors and cops are important roles that are in every game. Roleblockers aren't.

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 02:34 AM
Also, I'm really lost on where to go right now. Everyone else's opinions are appreciated.

[M] Colette
06-16-2008, 02:35 AM
Whatever happens, whether you are a real cop or not, it was a seriously stupid move. Because if there is another doctor, then he has to keep protecting you now. And what did you really solve with the claim?

That two people who weren't under suspection were town. And that Will speaks the truth, so the other one lies?

If there are two doctors, there can be two roleblockers.. You revealed nothing!

Im pretty sure I'll get killed tonight, but as a last stand:

##vote: Laminoir

And don't you tell me I have no reason. You were jumping on me on reasons that are irrelevant, make a huge roleclaim and then if you were a real cop, which is about 50-50 for me now, you just screwed up badly.

Nothing good came and will come from this claim. And therefore, I believe you are either a very smart mafia, or a very bad cop.

edit: also, there's this thing called an edit-button.

[M] Dave Stepdad
06-16-2008, 02:35 AM
Well, I've done some thinking

*CHINRUB*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/jesse053/Ace%20Attorney/phoenix-thinkinga.gif

...and I think between Willy and Ems, Will is the liar and/or scum here.


##Vote: Will Powers

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 02:38 AM
Lmao, Damon. I'm not even going to respond to that. xD I'm really tempted to just stick with you today.

[M] Anise
06-16-2008, 02:41 AM
The Godfather putting himself out in this kind of position is highly unlikely.

Why would such a powerful Mafia role stick his neck out like this, when there really isn't a need?

He would have to have some kind of contingency plan to keep himself safe, and banking on a Cop having investigated him is a horribly flimsly plan if you ask me.

So if anything, I do believe Will is innocent if anything.

However, I still have nothing on Ema, and I'm tempted to believe she's guilty.

And finally, the roles aren't likely to be forced to do something everynight unless otherwise stated, such as the Over-eager Vigilante.

So really, there shouldn't be anything forcing a roleblocker to block each night.

[M] Apollo
06-16-2008, 02:41 AM
I wish we had a multilynch game. Because I just want to lynch you all Dx

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 02:45 AM
Exactly. You wouldn't have to do something every night unless otherwise stated, so I don't know why Will said the mods stated that.

I mean, in my PM, it sure as hell didn't say I had to investigate someone every night. And I'm sure I don't HAVE to if I didn't want to.

I'm buying Ema's roleclaim over Will's right now, but I also don't want to go against my investigation, so I don't know.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
06-16-2008, 02:46 AM
They COULD both be roleblockers, but why would Will have that he didn't have to roleblock anyone in his role PM, and Ema didn't?

I do believe it was the first night where Judge said to send in night actions if you were going to do any, however people didn't have to perform any night actions (As was evident with DD).

I'm still at a loss at which of the 2 is lying. If Will is lying then he's either God Father or Lamiroir is lying about being cop.

However I got my suspicions at both and I can't quite decide who to pick of the 2.

[M] Apollo
06-16-2008, 02:47 AM
I should really stop voting because I really don't know who I want to vote for. I'm going to take time to think about this.

##Unvote: Ema

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 02:54 AM
Lamiroir;2509820']
I mean, in my PM, it sure as hell didn't say I had to investigate someone every night. And I'm sure I don't HAVE to if I didn't want to.
Add didn't. "I mean, in my PM, it sure as hell didn't say I didn't have to investigate someone every night."

Because of the PM descrepancy, I think one of the two are lying as well.

I still think Damon Gant is suspicious though, or at least dumb. Maybe both. Actually, dumb regardless. xD Gah, sorry hun, but <i>seriously</i>. Care to explain why you kept bringing up investigations?

Also care to explain when, after you so nicely set up the chain lynch for Godot on day 2, as someone posted earlier, you were one of the people so adamantly saying we shouldn't lynch Godot on day 3?


Also, between Will and Ema, IF one is mafia and one is town, then what does that say about Plum? I think we can safely assume that in any case, Plum was roleblocked. Why would the mafia want to claim that themselves?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
06-16-2008, 02:54 AM
Bikini;2509816']The Godfather putting himself out in this kind of position is highly unlikely.

Why would such a powerful Mafia role stick his neck out like this, when there really isn't a need?

He would have to have some kind of contingency plan to keep himself safe, and banking on a Cop having investigated him is a horribly flimsly plan if you ask me.


Actually that is a very good point. I'm so tired I can hardly think at the moment. But you bring up a good point which is making me look at Ema with more of an urge to vote.

While Will still holds some suspicion in my eyes, Ema is taking the lead of the 2 at the moment.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
06-16-2008, 02:55 AM
Okay, wow, three roleclaims in such little time. And at least one of you is lying, or maybe even two. Maybe all of you or none of you, but I'm going to assume that at least one of you guys are lying. Before I start believing anything or anyone, though:


Ema Skye;2509772'] I "also" blocked Plum on Night 3.
What is with those quotation marks?! They're throwing me off! xD

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 02:57 AM
Apollo Justice;2509828']Okay, wow, three roleclaims in such little time. And at least one of you is lying, or maybe even two. Maybe all of you or none of you
Good job Capt'n Obvious. xD If I didn't investigate you, I'd be like wow, wishy washy. xD

Ema is trying to say that Will didn't actually roleblock.

[M] Colette
06-16-2008, 02:59 AM
Lamiroir;2509826']

I still think Damon Gant is suspicious though, or at least dumb. Maybe both. Actually, dumb regardless. xD Gah, sorry hun, but seriously. Care to explain why you kept bringing up investigations?

Also care to explain when, after you so nicely set up the chain lynch for Godot on day 2, as someone posted earlier, you were one of the people so adamantly saying we shouldn't lynch Godot on day 3?


Also, between Will and Ema, IF one is mafia and one is town, then what does that say about Plum? I think we can safely assume that in any case, Plum was roleblocked. Why would the mafia want to claim that themselves?

Omg, are you serious.. are you reeeeealy serious?

Are you really asking me to explain why I did something before I started playing? After I just said three times that I would not be able to answer that? And you call me dumb? learn-to-read.

I brought up your investigations once, as they seemed awfully convenient, seeing that the last confirmed cop investigated the same.

Seriously, dont depend too much on that last braincell. It appereantly hasnt improved your reading skills and it doesnt do much else.

Why dont you think up some real explination for your own actions before calling me dumb to call you on it.

[M] Anise
06-16-2008, 02:59 AM
I dont' see will as saying the Mods said Spefically they stated he didn't have to investigate someone, though I can see how it could be taken that way. I just happen to know people who talk similar to that. :p

And we don't have enough time for you to think things over Gumshoe.

So I believe we should vote for one of the other suspicious party, not the roleblocker incident people.

Basically the best targets I see right now are Gant and Luke, though Gant is really pushing me to want to vote for him, I'm sticking with Luke for now.

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 03:00 AM
Damon Gant;2509832']
I brought up your investigations once, as they seemed awfully convenient, seeing that the last confirmed cop investigated the same.

Care to explain what last confirmed cop did what? :p

[M] Anise
06-16-2008, 03:01 AM
And the last cop NEVER investigated anyone.

Just look at the Judges posts after he was lynched.

Plus, he claimed Mia, who was lynched, and Godot, who was Lynched.

None of the ones this cop investigated were done by Hotti.

[M] Mom Host
06-16-2008, 03:02 AM
I'll tell you one thing I'm specifically stating. I'm specifically stating that the two of you need to stop insulting each other. :mad2:

On a side note, double posting is not only allowed in Mafia, but encouraged because it prevents people from deleting important information from their posts.

[M] Anise
06-16-2008, 03:02 AM
And to make things simple

Hotti investigated - Godot, Mai/
Person with hard name investigated - Jean, Will, and Apollo.

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 03:03 AM
Bikini;2509833']I dont' see will as saying the Mods said Spefically they stated he didn't have to investigate someone

Will Powers;2509778']I dont need to block anyone if I dont need to, as it says in my role pm

[M] Apollo
06-16-2008, 03:03 AM
Alright, I don't know who to vote for in this mess. I fell whoever I vote for in this big roleclaim fest would be a mistake so I'm going to go with my original susipicions.

##Vote: Luke

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 03:04 AM
Could we have a count and time, Judgey? :3

[M] Mom Host
06-16-2008, 03:05 AM
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EDIT: Ha, I read your mind. xP

[M] Anise
06-16-2008, 03:05 AM
As I said, I actually know people who talk like that and would mean it that it never said that they HAD to block someone. :p

I have odd friends.

[M] Colette
06-16-2008, 03:05 AM
Oh wait.. gimme a sec, I think I read wrong.

[M] Dee
06-16-2008, 03:06 AM
.....