Mafia IX: Ace Edition Game Over - Mafia Victory - Town of Failure Destroyed [Archive] - Page 6

[M] Mom – Host

06-17-2008, 04:54 PM

Ema Skye was dealing with things her own way, but the stress was getting to her. She decided to go for a relaxing swim in the hotel pool. All alone, she let the cool water wash over her. She closed her eyes. She could hear footsteps. Probably some other suspect or something. Whatever. With so many dead and none of them guilty, she was beginning to believe the suspects would simply never figure out who was responsible until it was too late.

*splash*

With that, Ema felt a strong jolt of electricity shoot through her body. Someone had thrown a giant toaster into the pool with her! It looked like someone was finally on her trail. "For the greater good!" she gurgled from under water as she lose consciousness.

[M] Ema Skye was a Prostitute played by oddler! Holy crap you guys got one!

Night 5 begins now. The sooner we get everyone's night actions, the sooner we can continue.

[M] Mom – Host

06-17-2008, 06:55 PM

Tensions were high between Franziska and Edgeworth. As prosecutors, they were both affected by the three-day trial rule (remember, the reason people are revolting and killing each other and stuff? Check the first page), but they were on opposite sides of the issue. "This system doesn't allow enough time to closely examine all of the facts!" Miles yelled angrily. "Innocent people are being put in jail while the guilty are allowed to walk free!"

"Hah! You fool! This system is a challenge to even the greatest lawyers! Only the best win! As my father's mentee, you should appreciate that more than anyone!"

"The court system isn't supposed to be used as a venue for competition! Accuracy is what's important! Truth! Justice!"

That was the last straw from Franziska. She whipped him once. Then twice. Then again and again until she had whipped him into a fine paste. Then she was crushed by an anvil that fell from the sky or something.

[M] Miles Edgeworth was a Vanilla Townie played by Bahamut2000X and WhatVVB. [M] Franziska von Karma was a Vanilla Townie played by ~*~Celes~*~. Better luck next time!

Day 6 starts now. with 13 players it takes 7 votes for a majority lynch. 24 hours maximum otherwise.

[M] Colette

06-17-2008, 07:00 PM

Okay, I'm yet ANOTHER replacement for this guy. I promise, I'm way more active than the other two, so you'll be hearing a lot more out of me.

[M] Colette

06-17-2008, 07:05 PM

Now that we've got the introduction out of the way, time to get down to serious business.

Plum, you've got my eye. Low-key. Only coming around when called out. And your little hissy fit when you realized you were coming close to the lynch block, "I hope mafia wins" and "I may as well not fight. No point."

Yeah.

##Vote: Plum

[M] Aaron

06-17-2008, 07:08 PM

So the good news is we finally got a mafia. The bad news is that we lost two more townies. If there are two mafias, the town is screwed, if there is only one, well, things don't look much better. If there's a SK on the loose they're not helping themselves by missing mafia. The playing field is so small now that any slip up might make you my prime suspect. So let's get talking, shall we?

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-17-2008, 07:43 PM

OMG I'm SOOOOO sorry I had to help my cousin move yesterday it sucked but now I'm back hopefully I have nothing to do until this is over.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-17-2008, 07:49 PM

Sorry I suspected Franny damn Ugh my entire list is practically gone let's see who's left uhh Bikini for giving up more or less Thats all i have left on my suspiscion list crap.

##vote: Bikini

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-17-2008, 08:03 PM

I'm probably going to vote for Wesley today. He's hardly said a thing this whole game (http://forums.eyesonff.com/search.php?searchid=994498) and no one's said much about him.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/jesse053/Ace%20Attorney/phoenix-pointingb.gif

TALK!

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-17-2008, 08:29 PM

##Vote: Wesley Stickler

[M] Helo

06-17-2008, 08:41 PM

Man, only 24 posts? It felt like way more than that xD

Phoenix, that was kind of a random accusation. Aren't we a bit too far into this game for random accusations? I don't like the cut of your jib, sailor.

Yesterday I was suspecting Ema, Gant, Furio, and Plum. Trucy's vote at the end of the day smells a little suspicious. But that's only if you consider that she actually knew the vote wasn't tied and that Ema had a lead. If that were true then Trucy was voting inconspicuously for her own teammate. Or that's a bunch of <img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" />.

My gut treated me well yesterday. I went with Ema, she turned up Prostitute. However, if we are to believe that Ema really blocked Plum that night there were no kills (Night 3, I believe, but I could be wrong) and Will also blocked Plum, and we can guess that either Dick was hiding and was targeted or Jean's Faith Healing worked and protected whoever the supposed victim was, then that might explain the lack of kills on that Night. So I'm inclined to vote Plum. However, I have some questions!

Will Powers, our claimed roleblocker: who did you block Nights 4 and 5?

Dick Gumshoe, our hide and seek champ: the way you've been explaining the Hider role differs from that in the Mafia flash. The flash claims that if you're targeted while hiding, no one dies. If the person you're hiding behind is targeted, both of you die. This makes me less inclined to believe you, but I understand that the Mods could change the role. I don't know how much to trust you.

PS: Dammit, me "showing up" whenever someone mentions my name keeps happening and I don't intend it to! Stop posting about me as I'm reading through the thread and writing posts! >:O

[M] Helo

06-17-2008, 08:42 PM

Oh Dicky, I forgot to ask you: who'd you hide behind the other nights that you haven't already mentioned (1, 2, 3, 5 I believe)

[M] Anise

06-17-2008, 08:52 PM

Um, Tigre. I have NEVER just given up. Hell, I was trying to get Emma Lynched, so I don't know how you can arrive at that conclusion.

And Sorry Gant, but you past two players have been far to suspicious for my tastes.

##Vote: Gant

For now, I'm going to believe Dick. Though that might change if he gives me reason to suspect him.

And I'm rather positive that Will is telling the truth now.

That leaves Wesley Stickler, Furio Tigre, Maya Fey, and Phoenix Wright at the top of my list.

Furio because he seems more concered with just lynching people then actually reading whats going on, and the other three because I can't get a good gauge on them.

[M] Helo

06-17-2008, 08:56 PM

Yeah, Furio, I think you're confusing Bikini with Plum. Plum was giving up at one point.

Alright, I need answers from Will and Dick before I do any voting!

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-17-2008, 09:00 PM

Uh...why am I on your list Bikini?

...and it wasn't so random Wesley! We'd all love to see you post more :(

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-17-2008, 09:05 PM

##unvote: Bikini
Totally my bad Bikini sorry
##vote :Plum

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-17-2008, 09:06 PM

Bikini;2511121']
Furio because he seems more concered with just lynching people then actually reading whats going on, and the other three because I can't get a good gauge on them.
Hey I didn't vote three times how can I be so intent on lynching if I don't even vote?

[M] Anise

06-17-2008, 09:09 PM

Wright, you are on my list because I haven't been able to gauge anything about you, thus I have a strong urge to keep an eye on you.

And Tigre, you just seem to want someone to get lynched each day. You don't have to vote to do that.

If anything, not voting makes it seem like you are trying to lynch someone without having your name attached to a townie death.

You just seem way to wanting to see some blood.

Had it not been for Damon, you likely would get my vote today.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-17-2008, 09:10 PM

Oh, nevermind Bikini I see now after Furio quoted you xD

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-17-2008, 09:11 PM

Fair enough

[M] Joe - Army Dad

06-17-2008, 09:11 PM

I blocked plum night 4 but it is possible many other things happened. Ema may have blocked me, plum may be mafia and just didn't make the kill that night, or Plum is not a killer.

Night 5 I tried to block miles, but he died.

[M] Mom – Host

06-17-2008, 09:13 PM

[M] Anise

06-17-2008, 09:14 PM

I don't even know how to respond to that Tigre.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-17-2008, 09:16 PM

Any thoughts on who to block tonight, Will?

[M] Joe - Army Dad

06-17-2008, 09:18 PM

Phoenix Wright;2511153']Any thoughts on who to block tonight, Will?

Not really... who do you think?

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-17-2008, 09:22 PM

Oh never mind...that was a dumb thing to ask xD

They'll just pick someone else to execute xD

[M] Aaron

06-17-2008, 09:41 PM

Now that Will is our roleblocker, the fact that Plum was blocked and there weren't kills is very important. Like previously stated, there is killing potential there, and people have already had suspicions. I didn't think much of Plum until this point, but it may be too blaring to ignore.

Between Furio and Gant, my gut picks up scum from Furio before Gant, but nothign conclusive. Yet.

[M] Anise

06-17-2008, 09:47 PM

Well, unless the newcomer for Gant can somehow defend himself from previous actions he didn't do, I'm voting for him.

Gant has been extremely suspicious up until now, and yet there is now way he can defend himself from any actions that I can think of.

This leads me to vote for him, which I admit is not fair to the newcomer, but I am way to nervous to allow something that can't be defended to just slip on by me.

[M] Helo

06-17-2008, 10:05 PM

How many scum are left, do you think? It has to be less than or equal to 6, or else we've lost already. I'm thinking there are probably 3 or 4 left, though that's just a guess. 4 Mafia (total, including Ema) and one SK for this game?

I think we're probably close to the end here, unless we can band together and pick off scum every day. However, we have to take out the other nightkill role first if we want to win.

Lynching one Mafia member will not reduce the number of nightkills. Lynching the SK (if that's what it is) will do so. Will blocked Plum two nights in a row. I'd think it very likely that Ema blocked Will the second night, after his roleclaim, and there were two kills that night. I'm thinking fairly certainly that Plum is the Serial Killer (or something). Anyone have any comments on this? I'm voting Plum now.

##Vote: Plum Kitaki

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-17-2008, 10:16 PM

Wesley has a good point S:

##Unvote: Wesley Stickler
##Vote: Plum Kitaki

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-17-2008, 10:17 PM

If will is to be trusted though he may have lied but that is unlikely right now and It currently is one of our only leads

[M] Mom – Host

06-17-2008, 10:19 PM

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[M] Colette

06-17-2008, 11:04 PM

@Bikini: No hard feelings...I've been following this game VERY closely, so I know all that's gone on. I can see why you would find this character suspicious. I can't justify what the other two people have done, because I totally disagreed with most of what they did, and they were jerks to boot.

All I can offer is my evidence on those I find suspicious.

[M] Mom – Host

06-17-2008, 11:09 PM

The first guy wasn't a jerk. :P

[M] Colette

06-17-2008, 11:11 PM

That may not be enough for you, but that's okay...It's mafia, we're supposed to find each other suspicious unless proven innocent, like Franziska said before.

Plum is at the top of my list, because she only comes out when we call her out. I'm not sure what to think of Will, because that investigation that found him to be innocent could have been the investigation of a godfather. I don't have much against him at all, so I can't say much more than that.

Apollo strikes me as odd right now too, because he comes and goes without much of a word, and though he contributes a lot, his inactivity without explanation (unless I'm remembering wrong) raises my brow. My bushy, white brow. But, anyway.

Trucy Wright...a little bit, but not too much.

That's all I've got for now. I'll be back with more information after I've had some time to think.

[M] Colette

06-17-2008, 11:11 PM

the first guy may not have been a jerk but he was too nice! That's enough for me *shakes fist*

[M] Al - Biker Dad

06-17-2008, 11:19 PM

##Vote: Plum Kitaki

I can't wait to see your faces when I flip townie. Oh, I'm won't defend myself because who do you when your Vanilla Townie

[M] Anise

06-17-2008, 11:24 PM

Oh screw this.

##Unvote: Gant
##Vote: Plum

[M] Al - Biker Dad

06-17-2008, 11:25 PM

Just one more vote.

[M] Mom – Host

06-17-2008, 11:30 PM

<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cols="5" frame="void" rules="none"> <colgroup><col width="23"><col width="150"><col width="86"><col width="86"><col width="86"></colgroup> <tbody> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left" height="34" width="23">[5]</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left" width="150">[M] Plum Kitaki:</td> <td align="left" width="86">[M] Damon Gant</td> <td align="left" width="86">[M] Furio Tigre</td> <td align="left" width="86">[M] Wesley Stickler</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">[M] Phoenix Wright</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">[M] Plum Kitaki</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">[M] Bikini</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left" height="34">[0]</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left">[M] Damon Gant:</td> <td align="left">[M] Bikini</td> <td align="left">
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[M] Helo

06-17-2008, 11:31 PM

Gant, remember that Apollo got investigated by Lamiroir and turned up innocent.

[M] Mom – Host

06-17-2008, 11:32 PM

That should say 6 for Plum.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

06-17-2008, 11:33 PM

By the way, I think Will is Town.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-17-2008, 11:33 PM

Okay...well now that Plum's dying...who should we lynch tomorrow :</>D?

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-17-2008, 11:39 PM

##Unvote: Plum

(Don't wanna end the day too quick x.x)

[M] Colette

06-17-2008, 11:39 PM

...Oh yeah, I forgot about that...

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-17-2008, 11:48 PM

well as of tommorrow we'll have
[M] Phoenix Wright
[M] Maya Fey
[M] Dick Gumshoe
[M] Will Powers
[M] Klavier Gavin
[M] Apollo Justice
[M] Trucy Wright
[M] Wesley Stickler
[M] Valant Gramarye
[M] Bikini
[M] Furio Tigre
[M] Damon Gant
not counting whoever dies. I have small suspiscions about gumshoe and trucy that thats about it.

[M] Helo

06-18-2008, 12:11 AM

Damon Gant;2511344']...Oh yeah, I forgot about that...

Not saying that proves anything, though. Just an observation. He could very well be Godfather, but he hasn't acted scummy enough for me to think that. I think Apollo's clean.

But yeah, let's not kill Plum at least till Dick comes in and gives his input.

[M] Colette

06-18-2008, 12:26 AM

*nods* Good point, Wesley. I was thinking the same thing but too lazy to say so :p

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-18-2008, 12:51 AM

##vote: Dick Gumshoe

Reasoning for me has not changed yesterday. And, because he seems so hung up on Will, Emma proving scum (Emma being the one who insisted we vote for Will) has only strengthened my beliefs.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-18-2008, 01:10 AM

Oh...speaking of Gumshoe...

Gumshoe went after Will and Edgeworth yesterday. Edgeworth is a confirmed townie, and I think Will's innocent, since Ema was mafia. Maybe Gumshoe is mafia and was trying to save their role blocker while killing the town's? He claimed a role that's impossible to confirm after all x.x

...yeah, now that I think about it, I'd rather lynch Gumshoe.

##Vote: Gumshoe

[M] Colette

06-18-2008, 01:12 AM

If I can find enough evidence to support a vote from me, I'll do that tomorrow. He also had a "Gut feeling" against Franziska, who turned up town.

[M] Colette

06-18-2008, 01:14 AM

So, yeah. Looks like he targeted a lot of townies...I'll dig up his vote history and look for a pattern.

[M] Apollo

06-18-2008, 02:13 AM

Yeah, I figure you guys aren't going to trust me for the rest of the game, as I went after the wrong people. I could force a majority but that wouldn't help the town.

As far as I see it, y'all are going to off me before this thing is over. I've went after the wrong peeps, so I'd like to help the town as much as I can before this happens. Someone give me some ways that I could.

Wait, thought of one: I hid behind Plum yesterday, I thought she's mafia, and even if she's not, she set up to possibly take a fall and isn't a threat to the mafia, therefore not a target.

[M] Apollo

06-18-2008, 02:28 AM

Alright just in case the town offs me, consider my post after I die.

A. I was targetted not Jean, in night.
B. I'm sure a scum will push for me to die, scum likes control, and now that they know they can't kill me they feel they've lost some.
C. We've still yet to target inactives. Becareful for them.
D. Trucy pushed for Will with me. Just be aware of that, I think there is a good chance the mafia will have wanted to use my stupidity that day to put some pressure on Will.
E. There is no E.

With that, hopefully it won't come down to me dying and you refering to this.

[M] Colette

06-18-2008, 02:43 AM

@Dick: You're not gonna like what I have to say then.

The Actions of [M] Dick Gumshoe
Day 1: Nothing.
Day 2: Came in, apologizing because he's a replacement and the previous player hadn't posted at all. Called out both Hotti and Godot, both of which ended up being power roles, though one of which being insane.

first vote: Hotti.
Reason:He's annoying, a bad player, etc. No good reason.

Seems very knowledgeable in the plans of this game's mafia. Remained "suspicious" only of Hotti and Godot for the first half. Asked what everyone thought of Will, but didn't say what he thinks, nor did he give a reason as to why he wished to know. "Suspicious" of Luke, who also ended up as town. Said he'd be HAPPY for Luke or Hotti to be lynched.

changed vote: Luke Didn't say why, really.

More to come!

[M] Colette

06-18-2008, 02:45 AM

Also, he's always on us about voting for inactives, when he is also an inactive a great majority of the time. A repeat of Ema Skye. He also called Ema out for that on day 2.

:holmes:

[M] Colette

06-18-2008, 02:46 AM

I also think we need to watch out for Valant. Anyone hear from him lately?

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-18-2008, 02:49 AM

Damon Gant;2511454']I also think we need to watch out for Valant. Anyone hear from him lately? Not that i can mentally remember but if my suspiscions that have newly been aroused He should show up soon

[M] Al - Biker Dad

06-18-2008, 02:51 AM

##UnVote: Plum Kitaki

[M] Apollo

06-18-2008, 02:52 AM

First off Gant, thats a straight out lie! I wasn't even here for the first day, and have been really busy, yet I'm still in the top five posters.

People are going to be happy to see who they think are mafia get lynched. As for "no good reason" on my first vote, don't make things up, Hotti killed Mia Day one under a "day" cop, voting for him there is almost self-evident, nearly everyone did, and wanted to.

As for voting for, and being susipicious of many townies. Yes, I have been, its unfortunate I've played a bad game with a good role, and thats why I think I'll be killed. Denying that is something only scum has to do~

[M] Apollo

06-18-2008, 02:53 AM

Oh and I am a replacement, I'm sure the Judge can confirm this as it would be BS for getting killed for that. xD

[M] Al - Biker Dad

06-18-2008, 02:54 AM

When did you get replaced?

[M] Apollo

06-18-2008, 02:55 AM

I replaced day two. Which is why I have no activity Day one, then solid activity afterward.

[M] Colette

06-18-2008, 02:58 AM

...oh.

My bee? :D?

[M] Mom – Host

06-18-2008, 02:59 AM

Gumshoe is a replacement. If I recall correctly, the original account user didn't make any posts at all.

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[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-18-2008, 03:25 AM

Some key posts about Ema:

Furio indirectly defends her. (http://forums.eyesonff.com/2507708-post634.html)

Neutral towards Plum - kind of inviting her to defend herself. (http://forums.eyesonff.com/2506939-post516.html)

Attacking Maya on Day 2. (http://forums.eyesonff.com/2506915-post502.html)

Mega Post 1. (http://forums.eyesonff.com/2509127-post864.html) Says "Damon Gant, Lamiroir, Luke Atmey, Will Powers, and Phoenix Wright. All likely scum peepz." We know Luke, Will and Lamiroir were not scum, but that's no guarantee that all of them are not scum. Told Plum to get opinions - again a neutral stance.

Mega post 2. (http://forums.eyesonff.com/2509760-post933.html) Heavy attacks on Damon and Phoenix. Neutral on Furio, more aggressive on Plum.

I think she made that last post perhaps knowing her days were numbered, which is why she switched to attacking Plum as a distancing attempt maybe. So yeah I agree with the Plum lynch strongly.

What worries me the most is that there were hardly any mentions of Ema by anyone as I was going through the thread. You all let her slip under the radar and well, now you know the result. And now that she's finally been caught it makes analysis hard.

I think Furio could be a possible scumbuddy of Ema's. I am willing to think that Maya is not on Ema's team for the time being. Dick mentioned Ema a little bit when pressed to by Jean but soon forgot her. I don't know what to make of Ema's attacks on Phoenix and Damon when she knew her days must be numbered; I wish the pair of you had said something about her before the roleblocker thing tbh. Valant mentioned Ema in passing when listing suspects because they had voted for Godot which isn't anything at all to me. I don't think Trucy and Bikini said anything about her until the roleblocker thing.

If I am wrong and you did say something substantial about her, okay, I've had to look through a lot of pages and people have been calling her Ema and Emma, so I concede I could have missed something, so feel free to correct me.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad

06-18-2008, 03:29 AM

[quote='[M] Damon Gant;2511297']Apollo strikes me as odd right now too, because he comes and goes without much of a word, and though he contributes a lot, his inactivity without explanation (unless I'm remembering wrong) raises my brow.[quote]

I apologize for my inactivity. I totally have a reason if you want to hear it, but, well, I didn't think you'd want to hear it, so I didn't say anything. But just say the word and I'll start talking.

Anyways, I have to say, Plum's lack of self-defense is really starting to get to me. I was all for voting her off and everything, but the way she's acting is making me think twice before voting for her ... I mean, you'd think that if she was scum, she'd want to stay in the game for as long as possible, but ... maybe it's all part of the master plan?!

[M] Apollo

06-18-2008, 03:34 AM

People have a hard time voting for those who don't fight back.

Also mafians don't want to give up any info in their final moments. So, I think Plum maybe mafia, Klav's mention of Ema's persistance against Plum during her final days solidifies my susipicion. It could be a way to clear Ema, by getting a mafian who's got so much susipicion against her anyway, lynched. Or save Plum if she's the one killed.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

06-18-2008, 03:36 AM

How do I defend myself when I'm a Vanilla Townie? Also is the only "evidence" against me Will blocking me on the night there were no kills, and my inactivity?

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-18-2008, 03:36 AM

I don't think I ever said much about Ema until the RB thing. Maybe that she was inactive, but probably nothing else. When I came back after day three I made a post addressing everyone who said I was inactive is all :p

I'd like to hear Apollo :</>D!

Just curious, I don't suspect you much at all xD

[M] Apollo

06-18-2008, 03:44 AM

Give us thoughts on who you think is what. At least try to help the town, I hate it when people blow hissy fits when they don't get a role.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-18-2008, 03:46 AM

Klavier Gavin;2511486']Some key posts about Ema:
Furio indirectly defends her. (http://forums.eyesonff.com/2507708-post634.html)

Hey I only said that because at that time I turly thought Godot may have been Scum so I decided that an inactive was less important than someone who may have been affecting votes.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

06-18-2008, 03:46 AM

Dick Gumshoe;2511500']Give us thoughts on who you think is what. At least try to help the town, I hate it when people blow hissy fits when they don't get a role.

I'm not, I don't care I that don't have a role.

[M] Apollo

06-18-2008, 03:51 AM

If your not blowing a hissy fit, then give us your opinions on everyone thus far. Even its the only thing Vanilla's can do to protect themselves, and even if it doesn't save themselves, it can help the town realize something they missed.

[M] Aaron

06-18-2008, 04:22 AM

I think that there is good reason to go against Plum, solidified by the fact that by the time Ema started accusing her when there was a very strong possibility of her death. Or she could have been one step ahead of us and set us up to kill a townie.

I understand it can be hard to play a vanilla, but you have to make the most of it. Can you put any defense together for yourself? I'm not sure when I'll next make it back, but if you can convince me you're not scum I'll take my vote away.

##Vote: Plum

[M] Colette

06-18-2008, 04:45 AM

It's after 11 pm, I'm tired, and nothing much is going on.

Gnight all :)

[M] Mom – Host

06-18-2008, 05:12 AM

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[M] Greg - Hot Dad

06-18-2008, 05:52 AM

Okay, yeah. Sorry, Plum, but I'm voting for you. But, really, I'd be more than happy to unvote if you'd just give a reason why I shouldn't vote for you.

##VOTE: Plum Kitaki

[M] Mom – Host

06-18-2008, 06:16 AM

So we're back up to needing one more vote for Plum to get the axe. :P

[M] Al - Biker Dad

06-18-2008, 06:46 AM

##VOTE: Plum Kitaki

[M] Mom – Host

06-18-2008, 06:54 AM

SUICIDE!

Hold tight.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-18-2008, 06:57 AM

Oh wow that was odd..

[M] Mom – Host

06-18-2008, 07:00 AM

Plum couldn't take the stress of the situation. She had been teetering on the edge for a few days now. Exactly what it was that tipped her over, nobody knows, but one thing for certain, she needed to get out of all of this, one way or another.

"THIS IS RIDICULOUS! YOU BLAME ME AND YOU DESPERATELY WANT IT TO BE TRUE! NO AMOUNT OF LOGIC OR EXPLANATION COULD EVER CONVINCE YOU OTHERWISE! Er... probably..... ANYWAY! YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE!"

With that, Little Plum yanked her sword out from inside of her broom and drove it into her chest.

[M] Plum Kitaki was a Vanilla Townie played by Sir Lancealot.

Night begins now. It's going to run late because I don't feel like starting the next day in the middle of the night. Night actions PUHLEEZE!

[M] Mom – Host

06-18-2008, 06:06 PM

Wesley Stickler was just standing around, minding his own business when he SPONTANEOUSLY COMBUSTED! OH MY GOD!!!

[M] Wesley Stickler was a Vanilla Townie played by Denmark.

You know the drill! 11 left, 6 to lynch.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-18-2008, 06:08 PM

Well that was lazy!

...but it was also funny and only one person died so you're forgiven :p

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-18-2008, 06:10 PM

Anyway. I'm voting Gumshoe for the same reason as yesterday.

##Vote: Gumshoe

[M] Colette

06-18-2008, 06:21 PM

Town...we're screwed. MAJOR. UGH!! :nonono: IF ONLY WE HAD BELIEVED PLUM!

Alright, we need to figure out why only one person died. Someone was protected or blocked.

[M] Colette

06-18-2008, 06:21 PM

Will, who did you block last night?

[M] Colette

06-18-2008, 06:22 PM

..Can I even ASK that question?

I've never asked a roleblocker who they blocked before =\

[M] Anise

06-18-2008, 06:40 PM

I'm warning you all know, I am freakishly sick, and unable to really make much of what happened last night.

So, for now I'll vote Tigre. Kalvier made a lot of good points earlier about him, and given Tigre was originally my #2, I see no reason not to vote for him now.

##Vote: Tigre

[M] Colette

06-18-2008, 06:50 PM

I'm not voting for ANYONE until every last one of the players shows up and posts. Too many townies have died for me to just jump to the gun like that.

[M] Aaron

06-18-2008, 06:56 PM

I can't believe Plum voted for himself. That's not helpful at all.

I'd like to reitterate what has already been said. Will, who did you block last night?

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-18-2008, 06:56 PM

All of them o_o

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-18-2008, 07:03 PM

Bikini;2511829']I'm warning you all know, I am freakishly sick, and unable to really make much of what happened last night.

So, for now I'll vote Tigre. Kalvier made a lot of good points earlier about him, and given Tigre was originally my #2, I see no reason not to vote for him now.

##Vote: Tigre
Can you really risk voting a town person right now? We're down to nothing literally. If we were to assume that there were six mafia members originally and we've gotton rid of one That would make it five mafia members left. If there are no third parties then there are six of us. If you vote me off a town member there will be 4 townies and 5mafia members due to the night vote. Then we more or less auto lose. So if you willing to make the team lose vote for me but remeber it's your fault that we lose.

PS I hope no one saw me post w/ my account

[M] Anise

06-18-2008, 07:21 PM

This is under the sole assumption you are town though, which you haven't given me a reason to believe.

Right now you and Gant are at the top of my suspect list.

The only reason Ihave to unvote you for now, is if two other people are tied for a lynch, and I believe one to be town and the other Mafia.

That or someone can genuinely convince me there is someone more likely to be Mafia at this point then you.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-18-2008, 07:24 PM

What do you all think of Gumshoe? This could be my last vote, I wanna make it a good one :(

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-18-2008, 07:27 PM

Phoenix Wright;2511861']What do you all think of Gumshoe? This could be my last vote, I wanna make it a good one :(
This could be all of your last votes that counts really if it comes out town we really lose

[M] Joe - Army Dad

06-18-2008, 07:34 PM

Hi everyone. I blocked wesley because he was fairly inactive and I thought maybe a mafia member may be trying to lay low, as many other games they have. I was wrong about plum so that probably means there is a bulletproof here, unless we have yet another doctor or Both the mafia and the serial killer(I am fairly certain it is this set-up) both targeted a person who jean protected and the mods decided to make 1 protection count for both. Or maybe ema lied when she said that she blocked Plum on night 3 and blocked the serial killer while jean's protection worked. I don't know.

[M] Anise

06-18-2008, 07:40 PM

Phoenix Wright;2511861']What do you all think of Gumshoe? This could be my last vote, I wanna make it a good one :(

The Mafia are really close to winning. Gumshoe coming out doesn't help get any town lynched, so if He was Mafia, why would he stick his neck out like that only to get himself killed?

If he is Mafia, they played a really stupid move by putting him out like that, so I don't think he is Mafia.

There is no reason for him to stick his neck out if he is.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad

06-18-2008, 08:04 PM

What the heck, Plum D: WHAT THE HECK.

What ever happened to Trucy and Valant? Especially Valant. Has he even been around the last few days?

[M] Apollo

06-18-2008, 08:04 PM

I can't technically prove my innocence, and I don't really have a good idea who's mafia this game. I bet its an inactive but with mafia (probably) being close to winning, I don't know if we can make that kind of shot in the dark.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-18-2008, 08:18 PM

I'll rethink it, then S:

##Unvote: Gumshoe

How sure are we about Tigre?

[M] Joe - Army Dad

06-18-2008, 08:22 PM

I think tigre may be mafia, but I didnt block him because I thought maybe with all of his suspision the mafia would have someone else execute the kill in fear of me blocking him.

[M] Anise

06-18-2008, 08:22 PM

Well, I'm posotive it's Tigre.

For reasons previously mentioned, in addition to him going on about how he have to lynch a Mafia today to have a shot, all while contributing nothing in his own defense, or against someone else.

Seems like he's just trying to make sure he doesn't get lynched so that a town will down.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-18-2008, 08:58 PM

That wasn't what I was trying to get across but whatever There's a reason I'm not defending myself Because I'm believing that since I'm Vanilla Town it will work out eventually but I guess I was wrong about that but seriously if you vite me off it's game over more or less.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-18-2008, 09:06 PM

You sound like Plum!

[M] Joe - Army Dad

06-18-2008, 09:06 PM

##vote: furio tigre

Why? You are trying to gain from Plum's death. It is so obvious. Plum said that and we didn't listen to her, so you are trying to do the same and make us think this case is like Plum's.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad

06-18-2008, 09:09 PM

I don't know what to think of Tigre. He doesn't seem very scummy to me, just a little ... odd. How he votes is weird, though. If I remember correctly, Tigre just votes whoever has the most votes without giving much reasoning.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-18-2008, 09:20 PM

that's not what I was saying. I wasn't saying oh well I give i suck cuz Im townie. I'm just saying by voting me you hitting the last nail in the coffin. Seriously.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-18-2008, 09:22 PM

Apollo Justice;2511920']I don't know what to think of Tigre. He doesn't seem very scummy to me, just a little ... odd. How he votes is weird, though. If I remember correctly, Tigre just votes whoever has the most votes without giving much reasoning.
Originally I voted to see if they were inactive and would flood to defend themselves and there were three day which I didn't vote in and also one day which I voted for someone with one vote.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-18-2008, 09:43 PM

##Vote: Tigre

He also types odd...but that's not important, I guess.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-18-2008, 09:45 PM

I'm so gonna laugh when Bikini is Godfather

[M] Mom – Host

06-18-2008, 09:46 PM

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-18-2008, 09:49 PM

##vote: Bikini
doubt it'll do anything though

[M] Apollo

06-18-2008, 09:52 PM

Furio has been rather inactive, and has given me bad feelings. Ema was "neutral" on him, which is something I do on a lot of my mafian buddies when I'm mafia.

Seems like my best bet against mafia.
##Vote: Furio Tigre

[M] Colette

06-18-2008, 09:57 PM

Mia Fey;2505296']Alright well this is what I know from being Mafia far too much :p

There is always one mafian member who posts as little as possible, sometimes not at all, just hoping to glide their way through (Auron, Hsu, Ditto). So, voting an inactive off usually gives you a chance at finding a mafian.

This makes me look at Valant. Where is he, and why is he only around for a few posts per day?

##Vote: Valant

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-18-2008, 09:58 PM

Dick Gumshoe;2511947']Furio has been rather inactive Ema was "neutral" on him
I'm inactive cuz I have a life I actually don't sit at a computer 24/7. The Ema thing I can't explain I don't know why she was neutral to me.

[M] Colette

06-18-2008, 09:59 PM

When Valant comes back out of hiding and can defend himself, I'll think about changing that vote.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-18-2008, 10:03 PM

What's a...life?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/jesse053/Ace%20Attorney/ani-hobo-bwuh.gif

[M] Apollo

06-18-2008, 10:05 PM

Making well thought out long posts doesn't require you to "not have a life".

[M] Greg - Hot Dad

06-18-2008, 10:08 PM

Damon Gant;2511960']When Valant comes back out of hiding and can defend himself, I'll think about changing that vote.
The thing is, will Valant ever come out of "hiding?"

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-18-2008, 10:09 PM

Dick Gumshoe;2511968']Making well thought out long posts doesn't require you to "not have a life". For me it kinda does I ain't the brightest bulb in the bunch so an hour or two to make one doesn't fit into my schedule

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad

06-18-2008, 10:13 PM

Sorry for the bit of inactivity peoples. I was swamped with final exams. Plus, I got distracted by MSN and a phone call about a kid who likes to stick his thumb up his butt while he urinates. But that's besides the point.

More on topic...I am a bit more comfortable with assuming Will is the role blocker now and that he's innocent since Ema was revealed guilty, two role blockers with different alliances makes sense, and he was revealed innocent on Lam's list. He is now off my suspect list for now.

Night 1: Jean Armstrong
Night 2: Will Powers
Night 3: Apollo Justice
Jean was of course confirmed innocent, Will is probably innocent and Apollo is questionably innocent.

As for suspects, right now Furio is pretty high on my suspect list. I think Gavin came up with some good points for him. He was already shady because of his for his lack of contribution to this thread. And with him just coming in to vote and then leave or say a few words.

Klavier Gavin;2511486']Mega post 2. (http://forums.eyesonff.com/2509760-post933.html) Heavy attacks on Damon and Phoenix. Neutral on Furio, more aggressive on Plum.
Hm, interesting. I am inclined to believe that Gant and Phoenix may be innocent since Ema seems to go after townies much more fervently. We know this because he went after Plum hard and Plum turned out to be innocent.

Klavier Gavin;2511486']I think she made that last post perhaps knowing her days were numbered, which is why she switched to attacking Plum as a distancing attempt maybe. So yeah I agree with the Plum lynch strongly.
Since we learned that this distancing attempt was actually an attempt to attack townies I am more inclined to believe that Ema's neutral stance on Furio is much more telling that Furio may be Ema's fellow scum buddy.

Since I don't want another repeat of the shenanigans that went on yesterday (i.e. omg let's speed lynch someone, omg lemme not defend myself cuz I am townie, omg omg suicide. -_-) I will refrain from voting right now until I think about this a little more and analyze a few other people's post. I suggest some of you do the same. Kthanx.

EDIT: Yes, I am here now. What.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-18-2008, 11:28 PM

Bikini;2511897']Well, I'm posotive it's Tigre.

For reasons previously mentioned, in addition to him going on about how he have to lynch a Mafia today to have a shot, all while contributing nothing in his own defense, or against someone else.

Seems like he's just trying to make sure he doesn't get lynched so that a town will down.
Seriously I want you to remember this post. Remember it good so when I turn town you never believe Bikini again

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-18-2008, 11:29 PM

Will Powers;2511918']##vote: furio tigre

Why? You are trying to gain from Plum's death. It is so obvious. Plum said that and we didn't listen to her, so you are trying to do the same and make us think this case is like Plum's. Exactly maybe we should have because she actually was town

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-18-2008, 11:37 PM

Will analyse this in a bit maybe. Just wanted to post it here for the time being.

Day one Day two Day three Day four Day five Day six Day seven

Damon Gant: Voted for Furio, Wesley, and Hotti before ending on Mia Jean followed by Hotti Voted for Godot and Plum before ending up on Bikini Lamimoir to Luke Dick Plum None

Phoenix Wright: Switched from Mia to Apollo. Luke None Will Ema Shifts from Plum to Dick Furio

Will Powers: Mia Fey Director Hotti Voted for Godot, shifted to Plum. Plum None None Shifts from Dick to Furio

Maya Fey: Director Hotti Luke but unvotes, ends with no-one Plum None None Plum none yet

Valant Gramayre: None None None None Shifts from Will to Miles None None yet

Trucy Wright: None Director Hotti None None Ema None None yet

Furio Tigre: Voted for Gant, Bikini, and Hotti before ending on Mia Director Hotti Votes for Plum, shifts to Trucy. None None shifts from Bikini to Plum Bikini

Apollo Justice: Director Hotti None Plum Will Powers None Plum None yet

Bikini: Director Hotti Director Hotti Plum None Ema Plum Furio Tigre

Dick Gumshoe: None Luke Switches from Luke to Godot Shifts from Ema and Will to Luke Miles None Furio

Klavier Gavin: Director Hotti Plum Kitaki Shifts from Lamiror to Bikini to Trucy None Dick Dick None yet.

Ema Skye: Franziska Director Hotti Godot Will None

Who actually got lynched: Mia Hotti Godot Luke Ema Plum Furio?

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-18-2008, 11:39 PM

Something I would also like to comment on is that usually it is the mafia holding us up and so are online when the thread is re-opened. I only checked for the last three days but Phoenix Wright was first poster on two days, Damon was first on the other.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-18-2008, 11:44 PM

Also stop piling votes onto Furio you lunatics. Don't you realise how close to the end of the game we are? If the scum win by lynching a townie and Furio is town, they can pile votes onto him and get him speed lynched and it'll be game over. Plenty of time to vote for him later if you still feel like it. Just hang back and think about it first.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-18-2008, 11:47 PM

That's a pretty post, Klavier! Though I think I shifted votes almost every day I was here, actually. I'm pretty sure I switched from Will to Ema the day she died.

It's summer, I haven't got a job and I've got nothing planned until July xD

I spend most of the day on the internet and refresh every five minutes or so and make a post or two when I feel like it :p

So yeah. I'm on right when the day starts usually. Except day three and the beginning of day four...I was out of town, then xD

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-18-2008, 11:49 PM

Klavier Gavin;2512015']
Who actually got lynched: Mia Hotti Godot Luke Ema Plum Furio?
Thats not nice at least theres a (?)

[M] Apollo

06-18-2008, 11:50 PM

How close is he to getting lynched?

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-18-2008, 11:54 PM

Firstly BIG FINGER OF SHAME for Maya, Trucy and Valant for having so many nones.

Who is mostly involved with the lynch? I would say Damon, Will, Furio, Bikini and Ema all usually (not always though) were on the person who got lynched.

Who mostly shies away from it? Phoenix, Apollo, Dick and I guess I have to include myself in there.
Thats not nice at least theres a (?) You're the bandwagon today!
How close is he to getting lynched? Two votes. Unvote him within the next few minutes or else I will know you are scum and I will rally whatever the hell I can muster against you to get you lynched before your buddies pile in.

I think there are four mafia members and a serial killer left, so town would be at half strength if it lynched another townie, and with the night kill it would be game over.

Mind you it is not in the serial killer's interests to vote him off because he loses if the mafia get half of the town. Whoever you are, you seriously need to take out a mafia member tonight. You've been a bit of an idiot by killing town to be honest.

If it's a vig and we lynch town today, take a shot. You've got to and you've got to hit mafia or else we lose.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-18-2008, 11:58 PM

If you say so :p

##Unvote: Furio

[M] Apollo

06-19-2008, 12:01 AM

Couldn't do it within two minutes, had to use the bathroom xD

#Unvote:

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-19-2008, 12:06 AM

Actually I just realised. If we're in lylo (lynch or lose) we can all start claiming now. This is a last resort tactic for towns which suck balls so oh well let's rock.

I'm a doctor. I have protected myself every night. I personally would have protected Lamimoir on the day she claimed cop if I was in control of this account then. Unforrtunately I was not, and I cannot answer why my predecessor did not protect her. Naturally I have protected myself because I have not seen a more important role than doctor claim since coming into control of this account.

Yes, I appreciate that Godot was a doctor too and Jean was a Faith Healer. Because of this, I believe myself to be either naive or weak, but I have no proof either way.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-19-2008, 12:10 AM

Maybe someone targeted you, there was only one kill last night after all!

I'm Vanilla. You're probably the only power role left...maybe Gumshoe, too.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-19-2008, 12:11 AM

Must be a pretty strong mafia for us to have all of these power roles...how did it get to this point?

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-19-2008, 12:17 AM

with 5 or so power roles on our side the mafia is prolly stacked

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-19-2008, 12:17 AM

We know they had a prostitute, it's also likely there's a godfather lurking out there somewhere. I'd guess they have another power role but I could not speculate as to what it is. And they are backed up by a serial killer of course. Presumably a serial killer would be night kill immune and maybe the mafia targetted them, which could explain the low kill count on certain nights. As I said earlier, whoever you are, find mafia, kill mafia, or else you will lose with us.

Alternatively there could have been two teams of three, each with a godfather and another role. If so, you guys need to start killing each other rather than us.

Although there could be a vigilante I suppose. I'd guess they took a shot at Dick (if he is telling the truth) and Miles but I don't know.

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 01:05 AM

Nice of you to show up, Valant...and then disappear right away. :mad:

##Unvote: Valant

I am Vanilla Townie. I know this character looks mighty suspicious because of past events, and I apologize. I was actually surprised when I checked the role pm and found him to be vanilla :p because I suspected him too...but I was proven wrong.

Since Valant made a post...even though I find it kinda silly he disappeared right after...I took my vote off, as promised. Another person I'm looking at? Trucy Wright, who hasn't posted in a VERY long time.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-19-2008, 01:08 AM

He is a magician after all...Trucy, too :p

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 01:09 AM

In regards to being one of the first to post in the day: there's always going to be a "first poster of the day". I am a VERY active player, because I have no life.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad

06-19-2008, 01:11 AM

Damon Gant;2512064']Nice of you to show up, Valant...and then disappear right away. :mad:

I didn't disappear.

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 01:12 AM

ooooh....ok ^^

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 01:29 AM

*sigh*

Only 11 players left. Very uneven atm in regards to the town:mafia ratio.

THINK LONG AND HARD BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR FINAL VOTE, EVERYONE! We can't make any more mistakes.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-19-2008, 01:43 AM

Valant Gramarye;2512068']
Damon Gant;2512064']Nice of you to show up, Valant...and then disappear right away. :mad:

I didn't disappear.Thanks for contributing by explaining why you never ever vote or by claiming. Much appreciated. :tongue:

Looking at my vote tally thing, I think Maya comes off as pretty dodgy. The green and cyan voting days were the most crucial, I feel, as that was when Ema came out of hiding. Maya is the only person not to have voted on either day. I know Ema said something about her earlier but it could have been distancing.

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 01:43 AM

I believe the split is 6 town and 5 mafia. Here's what I think:

[M] Bikini

Why? Simple. All she does is attack, attack, attack. "You're mafia unless you can tell me why your last two replacements said what they said." WTF?! There's no way in HELL anyone could do that, especially if they disagreed a lot with what was said...want proof?. I can prove it if Judge will let me tell you who I am on eoff.

[M] Trucy Wright

She posts exactly like how Ema did, and Ema ended up being mafia.

[M]Furio Tigre

Not sure what to think...Leaning towards Mafia because he's pulling the same <img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /> Plum did, the sympathy card. It doesn't work twice, dude.

[M] Dick Gumshoe

Not sure what to think once again, but leaning towards town. I believe the Hider claim, but not enough for him to be completely town in my eyes.

[M] Phoenix Wright

Not sure what I think about him either. He seems friendly, but who knows.

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 01:45 AM

Also, yes. Maya's actions are questionable too, because just like Ema and Trucy, she only shows up every now and then to vote, long post, gone. Laying low.

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 01:45 AM

I'd post the rest of my list but damn if I can focus that long right now.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-19-2008, 01:51 AM

Damon Gant;2512080'] [M]Furio Tigre

Not sure what to think...Leaning towards Mafia because he's pulling the same :skull::skull::skull::skull: Plum did, the sympathy card. It doesn't work twice, dude.

It wasn't the sympathy card it was the your all dumbasses if you do this card (>^ _ ^.)>
>
My main person on my list currently is Bikini she certainly had sway over all of you easily to throw you all into the crapper by voting me. And she said she was positive about me being Mafia. I'm not though she Only got that from Ema being nice to me which I thought was weird but when you think about it I wasn't the target at the time so when she said it she didn't care wheter I lived or died.

Next on my list is Mr Valant. When we called you Pop! here you came. Finals and MSN are good excuses I'd say but the thing is you were waiting there because a few minutes after we mentioned you you were there.

That's all I got

[M] Anise

06-19-2008, 02:05 AM

1) Now I really suspect Gant. ORiginally he was saying me suspecting him so much was understandable, now he's throwing it back at me saying it was a Mafia tactic.

2) OF course I attack, attack, attack, thats how one finds Mafia.

3) And that was hardly the only reason Tigre. You have yet to contribute anything useful, in the beggining you voted for someone simply because they voted for you. In addition, when I brought up the Idea you came off as a person who just wanted to get people lynched earlier, you siad "Fair Enough" and left it at that. I mean really, WTF?

4) If we're all Claiming, Vanilla town here. :p

[M] Anise

06-19-2008, 02:08 AM

5) I'm flattered you say I have sway over people. :bigsmile:

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-19-2008, 02:11 AM

Hello shi-Valant

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-19-2008, 02:12 AM

Bikini;2512095']5) I'm flattered you say I have sway over people. :bigsmile:
Yea seriously first it was you then within minutes I was 2 votes from the noose

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-19-2008, 02:13 AM

As you all love her so much, let me have a look at Bikini.

Kept very low on Day 1 and 2.

Day 3, comes in and votes for Luke when the scores are 5-5 between Godot and Plum. Luke had been suspected the previous day and at the time had 0 votes. Bikini then switches to Plum, despite never even having mentioned her before, on the premise of "saving Godot." Reinforces the belief that she was on Godot's side with these posts in the discussion thread.
I am sorry Godot. I failed you. :cry:
I really did try to save you. You were the only one to treat me like a real lady. :cry:Seems a bit desperate for everyone to see that she was against the doctor being lynched. Nothing wrong with being against that, but there is everything wrong with playing it up, and there is everything wrong with voting for someone who is now confirmed town for no reason.

Day 4, she was all over Luke again and also suspected Damon for not wanting to be held accountable for his predecessor's actions. Nothing too wrong there, except for still being on Luke but eh. Then the :skull::skull::skull::skull:storm happens.
cause I can't see a Mafia pulling Role blocker out on us unless he is a Prostitute, and can thus prove he can block roles much like a Roleblocker.A very interesting quote, made before Ema posted her claim. Perhaps they had already discussed that Ema could claim her role as prostitute and have it proven.

And finally, on the whole Roleblocker situation, there are so many different reasons it could have played out like it did, I have the strongest urge not to touch this one, but it needs to be touched.

And I think Jean is the man to do it.Pretty much urges Jean to sort the roleblocker thing out, presumably to follow whatever the guy said but that's just a presumption.

Now then, what was the spanner in Ema's works? What ruined her plan? The cop claiming in defence of Will. The mafia had no idea that was going to happen. Bikini seemed quick to pour distrust onto Lamiroir.
And I'm very hesitant to believe that Cop Claim
I'm all for continuing discussion on it after the alleged Cop posts responding to me, but I'm not sure I'll be inclined to change my vote to either one, as Luke is still my topic suspect, as there is not real way to know if Ema is guilty right now.

If this is a face Roleclaim, we're taking the bait.

If it's real, there's still a chance of a second roleblocker, and I'd like to wait a night to give the supposed Cop another investigation to try and gauge a bit more trust in her."Alleged cop" "supposed cop"! I love it! But later on when everyone else seems to believe Lamiroir, ie, casting doubt on her did not work, Bikini does a 180 and seems to trust her.

Day 5, posts bare minimum reason for voting for Miles
Just read others reasoning to vote Edge. I'll re-read everythign soon o try and get a better Idea of what the hell you people are doing today.As momentum starts to build against Ema, she quickly switches to Ema, again for minimal reasoning.
AFter reading again, I can't see a reason to stick with Edge.

So, since I believe Will over Emma,She explains further when asked but I dunno it seems to me she just wanted to quickly get in on the Miles and Ema bandwagons in a vote first, ask questions later way.

Next day, votes Gant.

And Sorry Gant, but you past two players have been far to suspicious for my tastes.Doesn't even explain why they have been suspicious! Quickly u-turns onto Plum with no reasoning again.
Oh screw this.

And now I think this is today

So, for now I'll vote Tigre. Kalvier made a lot of good points earlier about him, and given Tigre was originally my #2, I see no reason not to vote for him now.Well, I didn't really make a lot of good points against the guy, just the one. Again with the minimal reasoning.

So there you go, that's my analysis of Bikini. Is she scummy? Oh yes she is. But that's nothing really. YOU'RE ALL GOD DAMN SCUMMY. Every damn last one of you is a suspicious bastard and it is driving me slowly insane.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-19-2008, 02:16 AM

This is hard >.<

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad

06-19-2008, 02:17 AM

I just totally posted as my real account. I did a Goldenboko. Now to re-type what I just said before. :(

Furio Tigre;2512086']
Next on my list is Mr Valant. When we called you Pop! here you came. Finals and MSN are good excuses I'd say but the thing is you were waiting there because a few minutes after we mentioned you you were there.
No. I had my reasons for not being here, as I said earlier, but since finals are finished now I can commit more time to Mafia IX today. Since we are already in deep dog doo, I suggest we use this time we have today very wisely, or else we could end up losing tomorrow. I think the serial killer/vigilante has to be very careful with who they choose to kill tonight as well.

Klavier Gavin;2512079']Thanks for contributing by explaining why you never ever vote or by claiming. Much appreciated. :tongue:

I don't "never ever vote". I did vote that one day didn't I? Even if it wasn't much I think had much more substance behind my vote for Will and Miles than I could have for any other people. But then again, I clearly suck at guessing scum usually. But then again, so does rest of town so yeah. Also, those first few days of inactivity and not voting should be blamed on the person I replaced.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-19-2008, 02:25 AM

Valant Gramarye;2512105']I just totally posted as my real account. I did a Goldenboko. Now to re-type what I just said before. :(

Furio Tigre;2512086']
Next on my list is Mr Valant. When we called you Pop! here you came. Finals and MSN are good excuses I'd say but the thing is you were waiting there because a few minutes after we mentioned you you were there.
No. I had my reasons for not being here, as I said earlier, but since finals are finished now I can commit more time to Mafia IX today. Since we are already in deep dog doo, I suggest we use this time we have today very wisely, or else we could end up losing tomorrow. I think the serial killer/vigilante has to be very careful with who they choose to kill tonight as well.

Klavier Gavin;2512079']Thanks for contributing by explaining why you never ever vote or by claiming. Much appreciated. :tongue:

I don't "never ever vote". I did vote that one day didn't I? Even if it wasn't much I think had much more substance behind my vote for Will and Miles than I could have for any other people. But then again, I clearly suck at guessing scum usually. But then again, so does rest of town so yeah. Also, those first few days of inactivity and not voting should be blamed on the person I replaced.
I think we're still missing a claim in there

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-19-2008, 02:26 AM

It's especially hard because everyone and their mom was replaced! Anyone can just blame it on the other guy :(

[M] Anise

06-19-2008, 02:26 AM

Oh how I love the Misquotes.

1) I had no Idea if anyone was going to claim. I was simply stating a reason why a Mafia Prostitute would come out, and was a reason we shouldn't automatically trust Will. It just so happened that the actual prostitute came out and claimed Roleblocker.

2) I never trusted the Cop until the next day after she was Lynched. You know, when we knew for a fact she was teh cop. Thats why I trusted her results and voted for Ema.

3) And you suggest I should have sticked with Edge? I stated why I voted and unvoted him after he asked me. Because it annoyed me that he was giving up like Plum, and that I realized I was attaching anything I could to people who bothered me. So I simply took that into account, and couldn't find anything suspicious with him and unvoted.

4) Yes I didn't specify any reasoning. IT would have been redundant. The reasoning had been stated many times before that post.

5) I was sick of dealing with Plum, which was the reason half the people voted for her. Really I knew she was going to get lynched, and I just wanted it to be done and over with.

6) True, it was only one point. But earlier I stated Tigre was my #2 suspect, and you're point gave me enough reason to vote for him.

[M] Anise

06-19-2008, 02:27 AM

This post is directed at Klavier, just so you all know.

[M] Anise

06-19-2008, 02:35 AM

Whoops, I forgot one. :p

The second comment about Godot I made after his death was, as I described a little later, a joke refferancing to the fact Godot actually treated Bikini like a lady in the actual game. :p

And not even spell checker can my spelling of refferancing. :cry:

[M] Mom – Host

06-19-2008, 02:35 AM

Bikini was inactive in the beginning because she was played by foa and foa is lame.

[M] Anise

06-19-2008, 02:36 AM

Ah, how sweet of the Judge for coming to my defense.

It makes this beautiful young lady blush.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-19-2008, 02:41 AM

Bikini;2512117']Oh how I love the Misquotes.I misquoted nothing. People can go through your posts as I have done and see that they match what you said word-for-word.

1) I had no Idea if anyone was going to claim. I was simply stating a reason why a Mafia Prostitute would come out, and was a reason we shouldn't automatically trust Will. It just so happened that the actual prostitute came out and claimed Roleblocker. Coincidence, huh? Alright. Guess it's up to everyone to decide on whether or not they believe that.

2) I never trusted the Cop until the next day after she was Lynched. You know, when we knew for a fact she was teh cop. Thats why I trusted her results and voted for Ema.You didn't trust her until after she was lynched? She wasn't lynched she was night killed, but yeah, easy enough mistake to make. But uh...what was THIS POST (http://forums.eyesonff.com/2509863-post1010.html) (linked so you can't say I misquoted :p) all about then? It was made on Day 4, before the death of Lamiroir. Clearly you're addressing Lam, talking about how grand it is she's not going to be lynched and that you think her claim is legitimate.

3) And you suggest I should have sticked with Edge? I stated why I voted and unvoted him after he asked me. Because it annoyed me that he was giving up like Plum, and that I realized I was attaching anything I could to people who bothered me. So I simply took that into account, and couldn't find anything suspicious with him and unvoted.I didn't suggest anything of the sort. Also, voting for someone who annoys you isn't a good reason to vote for them and does to me seem like you were eager to get on the bandwagon. Next day, after annoying townie is lynched, people can turn around and say "Oh it's not my fault. The guy was just annoying!" without having to be held to account for what they did. Not something I like. And yeah you unvoted him, okay, cool, well done, but I think if the wind hadn't changed against Emma, you would've been happy to ride out the rest of the day with the vote on Miles. Maybe I am wrong, but that is what I think.

4) Yes I didn't specify any reasoning. IT would have been redundant. The reasoning had been stated many times before that post. Using other people's words as justification isn't the best of ideas. When someone says "X made good points against Y, so I will vote for Y" it's like they're hiding behind X.

5) I was sick of dealing with Plum, which was the reason half the people voted for her. Really I knew she was going to get lynched, and I just wanted it to be done and over with.Ok.

6) True, it was only one point. But earlier I stated Tigre was my #2 suspect, and you're point gave me enough reason to vote for him.Yeah, alright. Just gonna bring up the point I made a little bit earlier in this post. "X made good points against Y, so I will vote for Y" it's like they're hiding behind X. Although yes, you were somewhat on Furio before then and I shall acknowledge that.

Bikini was inactive in the beginning because she was played by foa and foa is lame. foa still made a few posts as Bikini which we can all analyse. :excited: And my analysis is that they are mostly flying-under-the-radar stuff except for a semi-long post about Hotti I believe.

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 02:45 AM

We're all going insane, Gavin. We're all stumped on what to do. Poor Momiji has to keep hearing how frustrated I am :p

[M] Anise

06-19-2008, 02:52 AM

Quote taken out of context is probably a better wording then Misquote, so my bad on proper word choice there. :p

1) I said there could be some LEgitamacy to the claim, yes. I never said I trusted her yet.

2) I can see what you're saying about hiding behind one persons words, but I have yet to do that. True, the last few posts I have made haven't given a whole lot of detail, which is a mistake on my part, but in the past I have expressed reasoning for suspecting both Gant and Tigre, and at first it seemed redundant to restate all of that so i didn't. Again, a bit of a mistake on my part.

[M] Apollo

06-19-2008, 02:53 AM

I have some questions for Bikini.

Other then Furio who's on your susipicion list, and everyone else? Do you think Kalvin is a Doctor? Do you think today is the last chance?

[M] Mom – Host

06-19-2008, 02:56 AM

Kalvin. I'm gonna modkill you.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-19-2008, 02:58 AM

Quote taken out of context is probably a better wording then Misquote, so my bad on proper word choice thereI don't think I did that but yeah, if anyone wants to go back and check the context - heck, they probably should do if they have intentions to vote for you - they can.

I've made points against Bikini and there is her defence. You guys can make what you will of that.
Do you think Kalvin is a Doctor?I admit I've smurfed up some names in this game like calling Ema "Emma" and Lamiroir "Lamimoir", but damn son. Damn.

Ugh, I still have no idea which one of you freaks to vote for. :laugh: Oh god.

[M] Apollo

06-19-2008, 02:58 AM

wtf? Where did that come from?

[M] Apollo

06-19-2008, 02:59 AM

I keep listening to this one Joke with the name "Alvin" in it, so I'm combining it with your name xD

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-19-2008, 03:02 AM

Yes I can believe he's doctor wheteher hes nieve or sumthin else I don't know I believe he's too helpful to be scum. Uhh I forgot the other question

[M] Anise

06-19-2008, 03:03 AM

Theres points i've made against both Gant and Tigre, if you wan't I'll go dig up some of my older posts.

And outside of that, I don't have many suspicions. I don't think Will is Mafia due to the whole roleblocker incident, and I don't think you are mafia, as there wouldn't have been a reason to stick your neck out otherwise.

And as far as Trucy goes, I think Gant makes a point, but posting similar to someone else is hardly a reason to make someone that suspicious. So if Gant turns out to be Mafia, I think it will be safe to assume Trucy isn't aligned with him.

Saddly this is all I have.

And if we smurf up today, it's very likely Mafia will win it.

[M] Anise

06-19-2008, 03:04 AM

And I have no idea what i think on Klavier being a doctor. Give me a bit of time to dwell on that one. :p

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-19-2008, 03:06 AM

Oh that's nothing...I was on an emu forum and someone called this game "Phillip Wright" xD

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-19-2008, 03:07 AM

Doctor, Doctor, Roleblocker, Faith Healer, Hider.

Potentially five people unkillable at night. Admittedly there is a 50-50 chance with the Faith Healer, and I don't know what kind of doctor I am, but it's definitely something to consider when you think about how genuine Dick's claim is. It's certainly something I've been factoring into it over the past couple of days, although obviously I couldn't say anything about my own role.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-19-2008, 03:08 AM

I should say something productive. Hang on a sec xD

[M] Mom – Host

06-19-2008, 03:10 AM

And yet, look how many of you are left alive.

[M] Apollo

06-19-2008, 03:12 AM

My role is very Killable. Also, I kill others by hiding behind them. Your claim seems a bit odd, but I don't think you'd make it if you where mafia. Too random, puts in unnecassary questions.

I still want to hear what Bikini has to say about your role.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-19-2008, 03:12 AM

Hurray for crappy night choices from the town then.

Also I said potentially.

[M] Anise

06-19-2008, 03:12 AM

Well, thinking for a minute, I can't see why a Mafia would claim a possibly naive doctor over a Townie at this point, so I'm willing to let Klavier slide for now.

That may be what he was hoping I thought, however, as that was the same basic reasoning for thinking Dick isn't scum and that Will wasn't. So I'll probably start keeping a closer eye on Klavier, but as of now he isn't a priority.

[M] Apollo

06-19-2008, 03:12 AM

Seriously Judge, most annoying mod ever gtfo.

[M] Anise

06-19-2008, 03:13 AM

And there you go Dicky. :p

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad

06-19-2008, 03:14 AM

Judge;2512154']And yet, look how many of you are left alive.
Ouch. A low blow, Judge. :(

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-19-2008, 03:15 AM

I didn't claim naive doctor, for the record. I'm claiming full blown doctor because that is what I was told my role was, and I will continue to submit protection choices every night.

I do have suspicions that I could be naive, though, yes. Although as weak doctor hasn't been used in a mafia game, and as it has some protective value, I like the potential of that idea a lot more.

[M] Anise

06-19-2008, 03:17 AM

Thats what I was meaning by possibly Naive doctor. :p

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-19-2008, 03:23 AM

Eh...I tried. Colors mean nothing.

Maya Fey - I'm not sure...she's hardly posted, but she seems town-ish
Dick Gumshoe - I'll believe the claim for now...I keep changing my mind on him >.<
Will Powers - Since Ema came up scum, I'll believe the claim...that's the ONLY reason I have, though.
Klavier Gavin - I'll believe the claim since there was only one kill
Apollo Justice - I would think you were scum if it weren't for Lamiroir. I guess you could be a godfather, though.
Trucy Wright - Scum.
Valant Gramarye - Maybe scum. 58% chance IMHO
Bikini - 70% chance of scumminess. Seems like you're trying just a little too hard. A lot of your posts are just kind of obvious
Furio Tigre - Probably scum. For reasons stated many times!
Damon Gant - I. DON'T. KNOW.

I think we have a "pot calling the kettle black" situation up there maybe, but oh well...

[M] Apollo

06-19-2008, 03:24 AM

Alright if I had to guess right now.

Townies:
Me (Obviously I'm gonna say this)
Klav
Will
Apollo
Phenoix
Furio Tigre
Mafia:
Maya Fey
Trucy Wright
Bikini
Damon Gant

Out of Maya, Trucy, Damon and Bikini, I think Bikini is definitely mafia.

I think she's going down the list of townies, waiting to find one town we'll all bandwagon, and kill.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

06-19-2008, 03:26 AM

Dick Gumshoe;2512173']Alright if I had to guess right now.

Townies:
Me (Obviously I'm gonna say this)
Klav
Will
Apollo
Phenoix
Furio Tigre
Mafia:
Maya Fey
Trucy Wright
Bikini
Damon Gant

Out of Maya, Trucy, Damon and Bikini, I think Bikini is definitely mafia.

I think she's going down the list of townies, waiting to find one town we'll all bandwagon, and kill. My thoughts exactly

[M] Anise

06-19-2008, 03:33 AM

Yes, thats exactly why when I took over this account I tried saving Godot, the most likely to get lynhed. :greenie:

Really though, my targets haven't really changed.

Gant and Furio I've had issues with the entire time. So you can't really say I'm just trying to jump on easy bandwagons.

After the Cop was lynched, it was obvious Ema was scum, so of course I'm going to vote for her. And guess what? She obviously wasn't on a list of townies. :p

So, I tried to save Godot, a townie, I helped get a Mafia lynched, and the people I've been voicing concerns against have been consistant.

In addition, I stated in the past I felt dick was a townie, during a time a lot of people were suspicious of his hider claim. If I was going down a list of people who would be easy to bandwagon, Dick would have been a prime target earlier.

[M] Apollo

06-19-2008, 03:38 AM

Saving Godot was a fruitless battle, nice card to try and pull later.

As for why you defended me. I believe the mafia needs 2 people for majority, I think you where trying to make me one.

[M] Anise

06-19-2008, 03:41 AM

Yes, trying to save someone just because things look bad is fruitless.

But seriously, no. Just no.

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 04:05 AM

I'm sorry Bikini, but I just can't trust you enough not to vote for you. You're too quick to accuse and not quick enough to lay out evidence and say "here's what we have to work with, what do you guys think?" A true town will always ask what others think as well, and consider what they have to say.

##Vote: Bikini

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 04:12 AM

Also. Look. Replacement #2 was a total jerk, and that's why he looked suspicious. I even looked in the pm box when I signed on this account for the first time and he'd gotten a pm from judge telling him to stop being such a jerk. I KNOW THIS CHARACTER IS SUSPICIOUS. Even I was shocked to find out he's town, like I said. But as I claimed, I am Vanilla Town.

There's nothing I can do to get rid of earlier suspicion from the other two players, NOTHING. I would have, if I had the ability.

[M] Apollo

06-19-2008, 04:12 AM

Just in case I fall asleep.

##Vote: Bikini

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 04:17 AM

If it helps, AK was replacement #2. That should explain it all. I know because he was the only listed replacement on the first page of the sign up thread and Gant was the first to be replaced.

[M] Mom – Host

06-19-2008, 04:17 AM

<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cols="5" frame="void" rules="none"> <colgroup><col width="21"><col width="167"><col width="86"><col width="86"><col width="86"></colgroup> <tbody> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left" height="34" width="21">[2]</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left" width="167">[M] Furio Tigre: </td> <td align="left" width="86">[M] Bikini</td> <td align="left" width="86">[M] Will Powers</td> <td align="left" width="86">[M] Phoenix Wright</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">[M] Dick Gumshoe</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left" height="34">[2]</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left">[M] Bikini:</td> <td align="left">[M] Furio Tigre</td> <td align="left">[M] Damon Gant</td> <td align="left">
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left" height="34">[0]</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left">[M] Valant Gramarye:</td> <td align="left">[M] Damon Gant</td> <td align="left">
</td> <td align="left">
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left" height="34">[0]</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left">[M] Dick Gumshoe: </td> <td align="left">[M] Phoenix Wright</td> <td align="left">
</td> <td align="left">
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 04:19 AM

you forgot to add dick's vote for bikini

[M] Mom – Host

06-19-2008, 04:19 AM

Yes, I was slow posting that votecount and now it's inaccurate. Use your imaginations.

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 04:23 AM

*uses her imagination and comes up with this:

:pickle:*

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 04:24 AM

....that's dirty :shifty:

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-19-2008, 04:28 AM

Klavier Gavin;2512150']Doctor, Doctor, Roleblocker, Faith Healer, Hider.

Potentially five people unkillable at night. Admittedly there is a 50-50 chance with the Faith Healer, and I don't know what kind of doctor I am, but it's definitely something to consider when you think about how genuine Dick's claim is. It's certainly something I've been factoring into it over the past couple of days, although obviously I couldn't say anything about my own role.Oh add Jack of All Trades to this too.

Anyway I think only Trucy, Apollo, Maya and Valant have yet to claim. Several of them haven't even posted today. I am most suspicious of Maya of these people I guess for reasons previously stated.

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 05:02 AM

Bikini hasn't claimed yet either.

[M] Aaron

06-19-2008, 05:03 AM

Well, this isn't going to make things easier, but I'm a Vanilla Town. This either means I'm lying like Klavier seems inclined to believe, or someone else is. I've been trying to do the best I can, and I'd like to think not voting is better than contributing to a townie lynch.

As I've said previously, my suspicious fall mostly on Furio, though there are reasons against Gant and Bikini too. I'll admit, I'm a bit hesitant to vote for Bikini at this point, but I'd like to see what else happens.

And while I think Klavier is on our side because there hasn't been much indication the other way, but I have to keep an eye on you if only because you targeted me. Sorry.

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 05:04 AM

Reasons against me, please?

[M] Anise

06-19-2008, 05:07 AM

Bikini;2512093']1) Now I really suspect Gant. ORiginally he was saying me suspecting him so much was understandable, now he's throwing it back at me saying it was a Mafia tactic.

2) OF course I attack, attack, attack, thats how one finds Mafia.

3) And that was hardly the only reason Tigre. You have yet to contribute anything useful, in the beggining you voted for someone simply because they voted for you. In addition, when I brought up the Idea you came off as a person who just wanted to get people lynched earlier, you siad "Fair Enough" and left it at that. I mean really, WTF?

4) If we're all Claiming, Vanilla town here. :p

Damon Gant;2512237']Bikini hasn't claimed yet either.

:p

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 05:11 AM

I don't get subtle hints. I'm one of those dumb chicks you hear about.

[M] Gaius

06-19-2008, 05:15 AM

Trucy Wright;2510847']
For some reason, I can't vote until someone is clearly in the lead in and will definitely be lynched.

Actor, although slightly modified since I was doing it wrong anyway.

[M] Aaron

06-19-2008, 05:18 AM

Ok, so, I'm trying to put a case up against Furio because of my gut instincts, but there's not a lot there other than a lot of complaining about not having enough time (maybe even more than me! :jokey:) and something serious against Bikini.

With good reason, as Bikini seems pretty set on getting rid of Furio. The problem is we don't have time for an information lynch right now.

Anyone have insight here?

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 05:38 AM

Actor? That's new. Dunno if I believe it or not, since you're never around anyway.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-19-2008, 06:10 AM

Damon Gant;2512257']Actor? That's new. Dunno if I believe it or not, since you're never around anyway.
Original Klavier here. I believe that roleclaim, just look at the pretty multicolored new persona's vote history post, she only voted when her vote was the lynch vote.

Our town

[M] Phoenix Wright
[M] Maya Fey - Vanilla?
[M] Dick Gumshoe - Hider?
[M] Will Powers - Roleblocker, town according to cop
[M] Klavier Gavin - Doctor
[M] Apollo Justice - Town according to cop
[M] Trucy Wright - Actor
[M] Valant Gramarye
[M] Bikini
[M] Furio Tigre
[M] Damon Gant - Vanilla?

Pheonix, I believe Trucy, what do you have to say about it?

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 06:13 AM

*looks back*

...oh yeah, duh.

Sorry. I'm really NOT focused like I should be.

Bed time...I'll sleep and then tomorrow, I'll be more focused.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-19-2008, 06:26 AM

I don't get a "Vanilla?" by my name?

:cry:

ANYWAY.

I don't know. She could have voted that way by coincidence or have planned it from the start. Seems like a dumb thing lie about, though.

I don't think I'll believe her just yet S:

[M] Aaron

06-19-2008, 06:29 AM

Klavier Gavin;2512268']
Pheonix, I believe Trucy, what do you have to say about it?

It's a somewhat believable claim, but it's also a good excuse for not voting, one which I wish I had. I'm not saying I disagree with you, but what makes Trucy so believable?

What makes her unbelievable (nu nu nununu nu nu nunu nu nunu nu nu nunu nu nu nu nu nu You're so ubelievable! OWWWWWWW! whoops, sorry). Why so deadset against Pheonix?

Also, I think I'm going to bed, so I'm going to look back through the thread and figure out when I have to vote by so I don't miss it again.

EDIT: Ok, so I see Pheonix's post now. Not sure I understand what you're saying. "Seems like a dumb thing like about, though" So then she's probably telling the truth? In which case it would be a very bad idea to lynch her.

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 06:30 AM

your quote tags got all messed up xD

gnight all~

[M] Aaron

06-19-2008, 06:36 AM

It looks like 12:06 pm tomorrow for me, or basically about 12 hours. I'll try and post between waking up and work, so give me some stuff to work with here. :p

Come back Dick, we miss you!

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-19-2008, 06:38 AM

I didn't say I was gonna vote for her just yet, Maya :p

I'll probably be voting Tigre or Bikini today.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

06-19-2008, 06:48 AM

##Vote: Bikini

Goin' to bed, making sure I get my vote in n.n-b

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-19-2008, 02:46 PM

A nu-skool Klavier post. ;)
Trucy Wright;2512245']
Trucy Wright;2510847']
For some reason, I can't vote until someone is clearly in the lead in and will definitely be lynched.

Actor, although slightly modified since I was doing it wrong anyway.I noticed that actually and did wonder if you were an Actor. I didn't want to call you out on it for obvious reasons but yeah, my suspicions of you did fall away a bit when I read that. It seems both I and my predecessor believe this claim.

It seems Trucy has an excuse for not voting, and Valant's excuse is reasonable - the original was not around and didn't post a lot. But Maya, you ended Day 2, Day 4 and Day 5 without a vote for anyone. Why?

[M] Apollo

06-19-2008, 02:46 PM

Just woke up.

My vote's probably gonna stay on Bikini. She's been inactive the entire game (judge can stfu even if foa controlled the account her posts where very under the radar type as well). Now that she's finally spoken up (at the end of the game), Klav has made her eat her own words a few times. And she's been pointing too many fingers for my liking. Unless something ridiculous happens, I think Bikini is the best bet.

[M] Mom – Host

06-19-2008, 02:47 PM

<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cols="5" frame="void" rules="none"> <colgroup><col width="21"><col width="167"><col width="86"><col width="86"><col width="86"></colgroup> <tbody> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left" height="34" width="21">[4]</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left" width="167">[M] Bikini:</td> <td align="left" width="86">[M] Furio Tigre</td> <td align="left" width="86">[M] Damon Gant</td> <td align="left" width="86">[M] Dick Gumshoe</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">[M] Phoenix Wright</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left" height="34">[2]</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left">[M] Furio Tigre: </td> <td align="left">[M] Bikini</td> <td align="left">[M] Will Powers</td> <td align="left">[M] Phoenix Wright</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">[M] Dick Gumshoe</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left" height="34">[0]</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left">[M] Valant Gramarye:</td> <td align="left">[M] Damon Gant</td> <td align="left">
</td> <td align="left">
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left" height="34">[0]</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" rowspan="2" align="left">[M] Dick Gumshoe: </td> <td align="left">[M] Phoenix Wright</td> <td align="left">
</td> <td align="left">
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
</td> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="left">
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[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-19-2008, 03:03 PM

If Bikini does flip town, I think our vig/serial killer's best bet would be one of Furio, Phoenix, Damon, Dick and Maya.

I am worried that nobody has claimed vig though. For a Serial Killer, vig would be an ideal claim.

Two mafias? Oh man. Same rules apply, guys. Take out the other faction while the town is on its knees.

[M] Apollo

06-19-2008, 03:26 PM

Actually, if we have a Vig, please target me, so that way someone can confirm my role. We'll still get a chance to kill mafia, if I play my cards right.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-19-2008, 03:33 PM

Uh no let's not announce any specific target. Mafia doctor could well be a mafia power role.

[M] Apollo

06-19-2008, 03:39 PM

That is true.

I guess Vig should keep me as an option then.

[M] Mom – Host

06-19-2008, 04:49 PM

Like an hour and ten minutes left. (My last countdown thingy was wrong. xP)

[M] Aaron

06-19-2008, 04:50 PM

Well, the time is coming, and I should be working, so I'm going to

#Vote: Furio

I just don't have enough concrete evidence against Bikini, and if she ends up being town we're screwed. In my mind Furio is a more likely choice.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-19-2008, 04:53 PM

Klavier Gavin;2512387']Maya, you ended Day 2, Day 4 and Day 5 without a vote for anyone. Why?

[M] Apollo

06-19-2008, 04:54 PM

And while your at it, if you don't have concrete evidence against Bikini, therefore you won't vote against her, what is this concrete evidence against Furio?

[M] Aaron

06-19-2008, 05:04 PM

Klavier Gavin;2512475']
Klavier Gavin;2512387']Maya, you ended Day 2, Day 4 and Day 5 without a vote for anyone. Why?

Maya Fey;2512238'] I've been trying to do the best I can, and I'd like to think not voting is better than contributing to a townie lynch.

Maya Fey;2510703'] I've spent the last two days moving into a new place and thought I'd be able to check the internet more. Well, I was wrong.

Also, I don't have much more concrete on Furio than Bikini, I'm just using the fact that he jumped on bandwagons pretty easily early on and the fact that my gut says Furio much more so than Bikini.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-19-2008, 05:14 PM

Disagreed on the first point. Your vote shows where your intentions lie. Nobody was putting a gun to your head and forcing you to vote for a townie. You probably should've voted for who you thought was the scummiest.

[M] Aaron

06-19-2008, 05:20 PM

Just saying, 4 and 5 I was moving. I can go check back on Day 2 now.

EDIT: Not really sure what happened that day. I unvoted Luke and I don't think I made it back to a computer in time.

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 05:40 PM

I sleep too much -_-

Well, not much longer and we'll see Bikini for who she really is.

[M] Mom – Host

06-19-2008, 05:47 PM

15 minutes! Bikini is at 4 and Furio Tigre is at 3.

[M] Aaron

06-19-2008, 05:50 PM

I'll believe this when I see it. Bikini had better be mafia. (if she's lynched)

[M] Apollo

06-19-2008, 05:55 PM

Better start typing that kill so we don't have to wait in suspense (from the Look of it no one's on to stop Bikini from dyin' anyhow)

[M] Colette

06-19-2008, 06:03 PM

-_-

Seriously, this game has me sooo pissed off now.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

06-19-2008, 06:03 PM

I would be happier if it was Phoenix or Maya in this position. Dick too maybe. idk.

Of the two remaining, ugh, they're both suspicious. My head says Bikini, my gut says Furio.

God damn Apollo and Valant for not voting. Pussies.

For all I know the other four voting for her could be scum. And it could be me to damn the town and you gits will never let me live it down. But ugh. I will stand united with you.

##vote: Bikini

When I was just a little n00b, I asked my Judge, what will I be?
Will I be a cop? Will I be lynched?
Here's what he said to me...

Que sera sera
Whatever will be will be
The future's not ours to see
Que sera sera

[M] Mom – Host

06-19-2008, 06:03 PM

Tensions had never been higher. Nobody knew what to do. It had come this far and nobody had any idea who to lynch! So the town had an idea. If the obvious choices weren't yielding any results, it must be time to look to the least likely suspects. Who is less likely to be a killer than a nun? Poor Bikini never stood a chance with that logic. Damon Gant was asked to do the honours. She was just a little old lady. What could she do against such a big, strong man? Nothing. Gant wrapped his hands around her neck and squeezed as tightly as he could. As soon as the life had left Bikini's body, the town knew they had made a terrible mistake.

[M] Bikini was a Vanilla Townie played by fire_of_avalon and replaced by NeoCracker.

It's not over until it's over! Don't give up! Night actions!

[M] Mom – Host

06-19-2008, 06:47 PM

Morning broke and what do the suspects find but a special gift in the lobby of the hotel. It was a Mafia corpse in a pool of his own blood! It was wearing a robe and wizard hat. Furio Tigre couldn't resist but to go over and poke it, and he immediately exploded into a fine bloody mist.

[M] Valant Gramarye was a Mafia Goon not played by The Summoner of Leviathan and replaced by Shiny. [M] Furio Tigre was a Level 2 Druid - er, I mean - a Vanilla Townie played by Arc_Master_14.

8 left, 5 to lynch, still hope for everyone, GOE

[M] Aaron

06-19-2008, 06:54 PM

So apparently I was wrong about Furio and the rest of you were wrong about Bikini. The good news is that we got another scum last night! Time to figure out what to do today.

[M] Apollo

06-19-2008, 06:55 PM

I don't know how I can redeem myself. I don't think I can. I didn't protect myself last night with Hiding in hopes that the mafia would kill me, not wasting our lynch today (I also feared the double kill).

After my roleclaim I thought I'd get lynched, because thats been the way of this game so far, you roleclaim, you die. So I decided when I decided I knew who was most scummy to me, I'd go after'um hard, hope they get lynched, so I can prove myself.

I was wrong with Miles, looks like I was wrong about Will, and I was wrong about Bikini my last chance of redemption. (luckily I thought before I bandwagoned on Furio). In another townie's shoes, I'd probably vote for me too. I'll urge you guys not to lynch me, but if I die, I really can't blame y'all.

As for the remaining Players. Trucy still seems odd to me. She's given me a bad feeling all game, and Actor seems to convinent as cover for her.

[M] Aaron

06-19-2008, 07:02 PM

Maya
Will
Klavier
Trucy
Gant
Dick
Apollo

and who? I can't remember number 8. The fact that we're still in this means there probably aren't more than 3 mafia left, I guess 4 is still possible, but that would probably be ridiculous.

After all of this goings on Gant is at the top of my list, followed by Apollo Trucy and Pheonix.

I think I'm ok with you now Klavier and I'll have to keep believing Will and Dick's roleclaims.

Which means, who do I pick today? Right now I'm looking at Gant for these two reasons: He was very quick to jump all over Bikini AND yesterday he wanted to "get rid" of Valant and then pretty easily took that vote away. Now that we know Valant is scum, it would be pretty easy for him to say "I voted for Valant" but it may have been a quick distancing attempt.

Others, your thoughts?