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Wolf Kanno
06-22-2008, 04:07 AM
..and when I say Yahtzee, I mean our wonderful game reviewer at Zero Punctuation. :D

I must say, I find his reviews hilarious, even when I don't agree. Its just so damn hard to resist his humor. Maybe its cause we both seem to perceive games the same way... :shifty:

Roto13
06-22-2008, 04:16 AM
I dunno. I used to like him, then a couple of months ago it's like he started being really hit or miss. Then I started drawing parallels between him and the Angry Video Game Nerd and suddenly I started finding him slightly annoying....

Karellen
06-22-2008, 04:23 AM
Zero Punctuation is one of the only 'funny' video game reviewers worth watching, along with Spoony One. He's kind of a one-trick pony though, so I don't know whether he'll still be hilarious in a year or so.

DMKA
06-22-2008, 05:08 AM
How is he funny? He's just like every other game reviewer. He bores me. Is it because he has an Australian accent or something?

Big D
06-22-2008, 06:01 AM
I look forward to these reviews every Thursday (time zone differences), and they never disappoint.

I know, every man and his dog is doing the "this game is http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif and I HATE IT!!!" review these days, but Croshaw's different. He has something to say about the game, and often focusses his criticism on genuine flaws, or at least things that can reasonably be subject to criticism. Bile, but bile that's actually directed at something, rather than just being "hurr, i r funnay cuz i sed swearz".
Is it because he has an Australian accent or something?:pNot an Australian accent, no...

While he's generally scathing, and often irks fanboys quite seriously, he'll give credit where it's due, even amidst a tongue-lashing. He's definitely an intelligent chap, which adds depth and credibility to what he's got to say. Compared to the multitude of similar reviewers, whose commentaries usually consist of:
This game is http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif, because it plays like ass! The graphics are ass, and they look like http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif! The sound effects are retarded, like they came out my ass! I can't believe this http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gifhttp://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif, I should be playing it with my ass!And to add to that, Yahtzee's got those brilliantly simplistic animations that make it all come to life. Top-notch stuff, and genuinely well thought-out.

Shoeberto
06-22-2008, 06:22 AM
D summed up my feelings. Most reviewers that do the angry/irritated/swearing hyperbole thing present everything as if it's fact without much to back it up, and as a result come across as giant flaming assholes. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Seml2WyFGpM)

Yahtzee, on the other hand, always quite explicitely presents things as opinions and says that if you like certain things, you might like the game. His gags are usually pretty clever too. I mean, anytime I've watched other game reviewers that have a similar angle I thought they were pretty retarded, but even when Yahtzee does a game I genuinely like I find myself entertained.

Azure Chrysanthemum
06-22-2008, 06:24 AM
He has a great sense of visual humor and pacing, so it's generally pretty entertaining to read.

I will say though that I prefer it when he reviews games he would have some desire to play on his own. I think they're the stronger of his reviews.

Shoeberto
06-22-2008, 06:37 AM
He has a great sense of visual humor and pacing, so it's generally pretty entertaining to read.

I will say though that I prefer it when he reviews games he would have some desire to play on his own. I think they're the stronger of his reviews.
I forget which video it was, but he commented about how he did that once with his Psychonauts review and apparently it wasn't as well received as the ones where he gives the game a good thrashing.

blackmage_nuke
06-22-2008, 06:44 AM
I liked Yahtzee's works before he made zero punctuation :)

However i found the first few zero punctuations extremely humourous despite not having played any of the games. Though i dont agree with what he says about jrpg.

Big D
06-22-2008, 06:52 AM
I liked Yahtzee's works before he made zero punctuation :)

However i found the first few zero punctuations extremely humourous despite not having played any of the games. Though i dont agree with what he says about jrpg.I've never played any of the games he's reviewed, and I enjoy a good JRPG as much as anyone, but I'm still greatly amused by what he has to say on such things.

Azure Chrysanthemum
06-22-2008, 08:15 AM
He has a great sense of visual humor and pacing, so it's generally pretty entertaining to read.

I will say though that I prefer it when he reviews games he would have some desire to play on his own. I think they're the stronger of his reviews.
I forget which video it was, but he commented about how he did that once with his Psychonauts review and apparently it wasn't as well received as the ones where he gives the game a good thrashing.

I'm talking more like I prefer to see him review games in the general genres he plays as opposed to games in the genres he doesn't. Although I was pleasantly surprised by how his WEWY review came out. His Brawl one less so, I just didn't find it terribly entertaining because he was against the game from the beginning and went into it knowing he wasn't going to like it.

Big D
06-22-2008, 08:41 AM
The Brawl review, and ensuing poo-storm, were quite amusing for me. In fact, he seemed to go relatively easy on the game, with only mild criticisms of the graphics, controls, and unlockable content. Sure he went into it knowing he'd hate it, but he seemed like he'd only decided to review it because of the incessant demands. But I see what you mean, though - when he's reviewing something he's even mildly interested in playing, the results are usually quite entertaining.

JKTrix
06-22-2008, 10:24 AM
These days I often find the visual side of his reviews more entertaining as a supplement to what he's saying. There's a lot of stuff happening on the screen that relates to his speech in all sorts of weird and wonderful ways. I caught an Evangelion reference in his recent Haze review. Definitely like it more when he fanboys out on a game he really likes, like Painkiller.

Decent way to spend 4 minutes a week.

Roto13
06-22-2008, 01:43 PM
His Brawl one less so, I just didn't find it terribly entertaining because he was against the game from the beginning and went into it knowing he wasn't going to like it.
That kind of thing definitely gets annoying. But it's not like he's a real reviewer. xP

Karellen
06-22-2008, 03:13 PM
He seems to think he is. It depends what you consider constitutes a 'review' I guess.

Roto13
06-22-2008, 03:25 PM
If your main focus is to be entertaining instead of giving a fair and honest review, you're not a real reviewer. You're a comedy writer.

Madame Adequate
06-22-2008, 04:16 PM
There are no real videogame reviewers.

Azure Chrysanthemum
06-22-2008, 09:35 PM
His Brawl one less so, I just didn't find it terribly entertaining because he was against the game from the beginning and went into it knowing he wasn't going to like it.
That kind of thing definitely gets annoying. But it's not like he's a real reviewer. xP

No, he's an entertainer. And I didn't find that review terribly entertaining. I tend to prefer his FPS or casual game reviews, since they're things he might pick up for himself so he goes in with a mindset that it might be OK.

Wolf Kanno
06-22-2008, 10:09 PM
Well as one of the few rare Nintendo fans out there who doesn't like Smash Bros. I found his review to be entertaining as it was close to my own thoughts on the series. At least he was honest up front about not liking it. I usually hate fans reviewing sequels and games they like cause their bias tends to overlook flaws that are truly detrimental to a good gaming experience (looks at almost every CC and GTA review in existence). Though I do feel he's more about entertainment.

Roto13
06-22-2008, 10:19 PM
A lot of his complaints about Brawl just weren't true. Like needing to unlock stuff in single player mode. All of the levels and characters and stuff can be unlocked through multiplayer.

Wolf Kanno
06-22-2008, 10:32 PM
I know, believe me, all my friends are Smash Bros' fanatics. I said he was more of an entertainer than a true reviewer, but some of his complaints I can sympathize with.

Dreddz
06-22-2008, 11:54 PM
He pulls off the pompous Brit quite nicely. If only he could speak a bit slower then maybe I could enjoy myself.

Rostum
06-23-2008, 12:45 AM
Australian's naturally talk faster than American's.

Azure Chrysanthemum
06-23-2008, 12:52 AM
He pulls of the pompous Brit quite nicely. If only he could speak a bit slower then maybe I could enjoy myself.

You get used to it after awhile, or at least that's what I've found.

Shauna
06-23-2008, 12:57 AM
I just watched a few of his videos, and found myself quite amused by him. And I could easily understand him right away. Could be because I can talk at high speeds as well. xD

Balzac
06-23-2008, 01:39 AM
Australian's naturally talk faster than American's.

You know he's English right? He just lives in Australia.

Also, he usually gets told what to review, so he doesn't have a choice. Which is a shame.

Roto13
06-23-2008, 02:00 AM
He pulls of the pompous Brit quite nicely. If only he could speak a bit slower then maybe I could enjoy myself.

You get used to it after awhile, or at least that's what I've found.

Being from Newfoundland helps. xP

Also, WOO I can finally pick colours from the reply post thingy bob again.

JKTrix
06-23-2008, 02:49 AM
If only he could speak a bit slower then maybe I could enjoy myself.

It ain't called Zero Punctuation (not to mention his personal site, Fully Ramblomatic) for nothin'. I tend to talk pretty fast myself (and I once spent a *lot* of time around Jamaicans... I can understand Little Jacob without subs) so the speed isn't a problem for me.

Big D
06-23-2008, 02:59 AM
A lot of his complaints about Brawl just weren't true. Like needing to unlock stuff in single player mode. All of the levels and characters and stuff can be unlocked through multiplayer.Sure, but I think he was complaining more about the number of "****-gargling hours" needed to unlock everything, and how that detracted from the immediate multi-playablity(?) of the game. Spending the first umpteen hours of a gathering simply unlocking the characters everyone wants to use would be a bit of a downer...

I quite liked the blatant snark in the small print at the end of the Brawl review:
Not much point in writing everything here this week, everyone's already smurfed off to their favourite Nintendo forum to talk about how I'm not a "real" reviewer

While the reviews do focus on comedy, I think they've generally got enough analysis of the game to be taken seriously as reviews. After all, even the Brawl review praised the game's concept, and the amount of work that'd gone into the single-player campaigns. And as the Portal and Psychonauts reviews show, he'll heap on the praise where he feels it's due, and even a game he claimed not to like all that much will get favourable treatment for its strong points.

Madame Adequate
06-23-2008, 03:06 AM
I don't agree with his Halo review by any stretch, but I still laughed. And it did raise some legitimate points and that, which is more than can be said for most reviews.

JackNapier
06-23-2008, 04:27 AM
I find him pretty funny, but I prefer his Chzo Mythos series above anything else. His novel Articulate Jim: The Search for Something is also pretty entertaining.

leilei
06-23-2008, 05:11 AM
I don't like Yahtzee much and that was even way before ZP.

PhoenixAsh
06-23-2008, 04:52 PM
I love ZP, but haven't seen much of his other stuff. I tried to look around his site, but he didn't seem to cover much else I was interested in.

He's a fair reviewer. I love Smash, and did think that particular review was unfair. Not because his criticisms weren't valid, but just because they seemed to miss the heart of the game. That said, I respected that he said what he thought, as I adore the fact that he is one of the few reviewers to notice that Halo just isn't that good.

Momiji
06-26-2008, 07:07 PM
D summed up my feelings. Most reviewers that do the angry/irritated/swearing hyperbole thing present everything as if it's fact without much to back it up, and as a result come across as giant flaming assholes. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Seml2WyFGpM)


...is that Erdrick Holmes? D:

Anyway, after reading this thread I decided to check out some of Yahtzee's Zero Punctuation reviews and I have to say I really enjoyed them. Sure, his attitude is scathing and I don't always agree with his opinions, but each video I watched was charming in delivery, which I enjoyed. Also, he gets extra points for saying Portal was sublime. Anyone gets extra points in my book for saying Portal was good. :p

Big D
06-27-2008, 01:32 AM
D summed up my feelings. Most reviewers that do the angry/irritated/swearing hyperbole thing present everything as if it's fact without much to back it up, and as a result come across as giant flaming assholes. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Seml2WyFGpM)


...is that Erdrick Holmes? D:Yup, 'tis Joel.

Shibuyeah
06-27-2008, 06:22 PM
I like Yahtzee for his games, not just his reviews. The John DeFoe quadrilogy and 1213 mini-series are both interesting games and do a lot to make you think, even though there'll be times you just want to bash your head in when playing the first series. 1213 is like a rip-off of Flashback, which I consider a good thing. The Art of Theft is his latest game and it succeeds where his John DeFoe series and other games tend to fail, in very smooth gameplay.

I'm currently playing The Trials of Odysseus Kent on and off. The gameplay sucks, but I'm sticking in for the story. The treasure, it'll be mine!

JKTrix
07-02-2008, 06:37 PM
The Escapist : Video Galleries : Zero Punctuation : Webcomics (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/108-Webcomics)
"This week, Yahtzee takea [sic] apart the making of a successful gaming webcomic, or: how to make millions of gamers happy with the minimum amount of effort."

Karellen
07-02-2008, 06:49 PM
It's so cute how much he wants to be the voice of all CAD haters.

Roto13
07-02-2008, 07:02 PM
This is the first one I've laughed at in a while. xP CAD sucks.

The Summoner of Leviathan
07-02-2008, 07:14 PM
I watch the vids more out of the entertainment value than for the review. It also helps that I have played so few of the games he does review anyways, so I cannot really complain about his reviews.

JKTrix
07-09-2008, 08:19 PM
The Escapist : Video Galleries : Zero Punctuation : LEGO Indy (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/123-LEGO-Indy)

With a bonus review of the new Indy movie at the end.

Wolf Kanno
07-10-2008, 07:29 AM
I must say I enjoyed his MGS4 review and I'm one of the bigger MGS fans out there but even I have to admit some of the faults he says about the series is pretty true.

Laughed my ass off at this one:

"Somebody once said a politician is someone who can talk for hours and never actually say anything. If that is true, Hideo Kojima could run for government and be emperor of the universe by mid-afternoon"
~Yahtzee

I'll admit he gets a little too wordy at times (hell most of the time) but I still love Kojima :love:

Jiro
07-10-2008, 08:13 AM
I watched some of his stuff the other night, without realising it was the same guy from this thread. His stuff is pretty funny

Rostum
07-10-2008, 10:37 AM
He's going to be at an ACMI seminar tonight in Melbourne. I was going to go, but left it too late and couldn't get tickets (they are free, but only a limited amount of people allowed in).