Will the Xbox 360 or Playstation 3 version of Final Fantasy XIII be better?

[Dragonsoul]

The best games I like are coming out for pc. I'll buy a console for FF XIII and FF V XIII, but which is going to have the better version you think? I'm not sure which one has best graphics and other stuff.

What's your comments on this? :choc2:?!

[Raebus]

Headdesk

[Jessweeee♪]

If there is a difference it will barely be noticable is my guess.

[Roto13]

Well they say they're going to finish the PS3 version and then port it over to the Xbox 360. I don't believe they're not going to keep the Xbox 360 in mind during development, but I'm guessing if one version is better than the other, it will be the PS3 version.

[Bolivar]

^ yeah that about sums it up. I mean Nomura said it would be one of the first games to take full advantage of the ps3's specs, so if that's true, the ps3 version should be better (although i'm pretty sure the 360 has a better graphics card).

[Dragonsoul]

Pretty cool! Now, who's going to buy me it?

I'm being helped with the waiting for Final Fantasy XIII with The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, that helps! I'm still not sure yet about Fallout 3 though. :)

[Brennan]

I really don't give a smurf, they're probably the same anyway

[Formalhaut]

Well ever since Final Fantasy had its first date to the Playstation one, they've been married ever since, from Final Fantasy VII, VIII, IX, X, and XII its been a mainstay. However now many games are porting to the Xbox.

Grand Theft Auto IV, a game which like FF was dominant on the Playstation was ported to Xbox 360.

However to say what will be better... its Tough. Xbox has a better multiplayer than the playstation (In my opinion) however this ain't a XI, its a single player and I think the playstation 3 would be the best pick.

Although whatever system your comfortable is good.

I think the developers will pay more attention to the playstation 3 version.:moomba:

[Xalioniaf]

They're going to be the same. If you're going to be picky and try to discern the two graphical differences between the two versions, you're an dick anyway.
Just pick one up for whatever controller feels comfortable, imo. I like my DualShock 3 over my 360 controller, so I'll be getting it for the PS3.

[Yar]

I hope that the two versions are exactly the same so everyone will shut up. :rolleyes2

[Raebus]

I'm sure you'll get someone with a magnifying glass picking it up apart and talking about barely noticeable things, I've seen that happen far too often.

[KH-Cloudy]

Go for the PS3, because you'll be able to get vXIII that way! 8)
That allows you to have BOTH XIII's.

[champagne supernova]

Go for the PS3, because you'll be able to get vXIII that way! 8)
That allows you to have BOTH XIII's.

Agreed.

I think GTA4 was slightly better on the PS3 than the Xbox, with a slightly better frame-rate or something. But it was marginal.

And the Xbox's graphics card does have more memory. However, the PS3 has the Cell Processor, which is basically six (i think) CPUs combined together.

All in all, it should be a much of a muchness.

[Roto13]

You guys know there's going to be more than two FF XIII games, right? :P That's not counting the cell phone game.

[Depression Moon]

what other XIII game? and yes of course the PS3 one would be better. For some strange reason, I don't feel as angry about the 360 move anymore.

[Xalioniaf]

Why would you be angry in the first place? "Oh no, other people are going to enjoy this game!". Get over yourselves.

[Old Manus]

They're going to play exactly the same.

[Raebus]

Who cares which version is superior, just enjoy the game for christ sake.

[Yar]

what other XIII game? and yes of course the PS3 one would be better. For some strange reason, I don't feel as angry about the 360 move anymore.

Final Fantasy Haeresis XIII, which may or may not be an MMORPG.

Fabula Nova Crystallis is supposed to span either one decade or two, can't remember. Either way there're more games to come.

[Dragonsoul]

You guys know there's going to be more than two FF XIII games, right? :P That's not counting the cell phone game.

Yea, Final Fantasy Agito XIII for cellphones, not announced for Usa yet though, hopefully it will come out here though. It's from the same exact team of FF VII: Before Crisis, FF VII: Crisis Core, and Kingdom Hearts: Coded. Also, the director, Hajime Tabata, is directing The 3rd Birthday(cellphone, 3rd Parasite Eve game). Recently, this guy could have been working on five projects at once! Now he has more time since FF VII: CC is finished, and we don't know what happened to the Usa port of FF VII: BC, it seems everybody forgot about it. He's making three games now though. :)

Final Fantasy Haeresis XIII is a trademark with no announced title attached to it. I think it's the "Rapture" mmorpg that the FF XI team is working on. FF H XIII has been trademarked for a while, it must be a huge project and Rapture has been worked on for a while.

If the big announcement at the Square Enix early August event is not FF VII related, I think it will be an announcement of FF Haeresis XIII.

:)

[Hyperion4444]

the ps3 version, it will be on just 1 BD instead of constantly changing dvds.

For all thoses of you who claims it's for the good of the gamer, then why would they go off and make an exclusif deal with the 360?
where's your it's for the gamer deal?
it just good for microsoft only.
This is Square-Enix insulting there japanise core fans, that I truly feel sorry for.

[Raebus]

I wonder how long it'll take for the game to be installed onto the PS3. =P

[Hyperion4444]

much faster than it's 360 counterpart.
they said so themselves and it was built for the ps3

[Raebus]

For all thoses of you who claims it's for the good of the gamer, then why would they go off and make an exclusif deal with the 360?
where's your it's for the gamer deal?
it just good for microsoft only.
This is Square-Enix insulting there japanise core fans, that I truly feel sorry for.

Everyone else seems to have gotten over it or shut up about it, but it seems you haven't.

[Hyperion4444]

For all thoses of you who claims it's for the good of the gamer, then why would they go off and make an exclusif deal with the 360?
where's your it's for the gamer deal?
it just good for microsoft only.
This is Square-Enix insulting there japanise core fans, that I truly feel sorry for.

Everyone else seems to have gotten over it or shut up about it, but it seems you haven't.

At least I speak to other people with respect unlike you X360 player and I never want to end up like you.

[Raebus]

What a coincidence, I never want to end up like you either. ^___^

Oh and way to go, you're saying every 360 player is rude and doesn't treat people with respect. Bravo.

Just stop this, okay? I can see where this is leading and I like this thread, so stop.

[Flying Mullet]

Knock it off you two.

[Flying Mullet]

When a moderator says asks you to quit an argument, you quit the argument. It doesn't mean try to get one last word in. If you feel there are things here you still need to argue with someone, take it to PMs, but leave it out of this thread.

[Hyperion4444]

Sending in an administrator to disclose his own private dispute, not really sportive nor logical for that matter.

[Flying Mullet]

When members start flaming each other, it gets shut down. You've warned posts of his as well so don't throw stones in glass houses. If you don't like it, you're welcome to post a thread in private feedback voicing your concerns.

[Raebus]

That argument is over with now and he's on my ignore list, so its okay. :)

On topic:

The PS3 version might be better in the end but I won't think about that, I'll just enjoy playing it whenever I get it.

[Hyperion4444]

I'm just a Fan of Final Fantasy.

The PS3 can allow lots of content to be downloaded and store.

[Formalhaut]

I'm just a Fan of Final Fantasy

Obviously, and I don't think thats on topic.

*On Topic*

I think the Graphics are going to be the same In my opinion. I wonder if they will include extras in either or both systems?

[Raebus]

Well, the 360 version might have downloadable content or whatever. :)

[Roto13]

This is something I didn't know. Apparently Microsoft charges extra royalty fees for extra discs. Apparently they're big enough for John Carmack to say that making Rage more than two discs on Xbox 360 wouldn't be financially viable. (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/01/carmack-rage-to-look-worse-on-360-if-limited-to-two-dvds/) Rage is going to be compressed to two discs, which means it'll look worse than it's PS3 counterpart. I wonder what this means for Final Fantasy XIII? Will it really be printed on an assload of DVDs? Will it be compressed to hell to fit on fewer DVDs? Will the whole project be scaled down?

[Yar]

This is something I didn't know. Apparently Microsoft charges extra royalty fees for extra discs. Apparently they're big enough for John Carmack to say that making Rage more than two discs on Xbox 360 wouldn't be financially viable. (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/01/carmack-rage-to-look-worse-on-360-if-limited-to-two-dvds/) Rage is going to be compressed to two discs, which means it'll look worse than it's PS3 counterpart. I wonder what this means for Final Fantasy XIII? Will it really be printed on an assload of DVDs? Will it be compressed to hell to fit on fewer DVDs? Will the whole project be scaled down?

I'm willing to bet that whatever decision there is about this was already made back when Square and Microsoft agreed that XIII would be on the 360.

[Hyperion4444]

They said it will fit on 1 full Blu-Ray Disc.
A Full BD would mean something like 10 DVDs (Or 5 dual-layer).

[Yar]

They said it will fit on 1 full Blu-Ray Disc.
A Full BD would mean something like 10 DVDs (Or 5 dual-layer).

That is if they used the entirety of a 50 GB Blu-Ray disc.

For as "massive" of a game XII was, it only used 3.8 GB of a DVD's 4.7.

[Hyperion4444]

They said it will fit on 1 full Blu-Ray Disc.
A Full BD would mean something like 10 DVDs (Or 5 dual-layer).

That is if they used the entirety of a 50 GB Blu-Ray disc.

For as "massive" of a game XII was, it only used 3.8 GB of a DVD's 4.7.

yeah but this game implements HD, and much more database than it's precesors.
If a small shooting game like R2 needs the full dual-layer disc, then Square-Enix's Final Fantasy XIII will surely take alot of space.
Square-Enix always pushed the system to it's limits.

And there will be many disc of dvds for FFXIII, it's one of the first things they've said when announcing it.
"We're not sure how many disc would be required nor if the 360 system could support the game"
Don't forget, FFXII used CG graphics in order to make it fit on a DVD because they couldn't get all that level of realism and make it work.

[Yar]

yeah but this game implements HD, and much more database than it's precesors.
If a small shooting game like R2 needs the full dual-layer disc, then Square-Enix's Final Fantasy XIII will surely take alot of space.
Square-Enix always pushed the system to it's limits.

And there will be many disc of dvds for FFXIII, it's one of the first things they've said when announcing it.
"We're not sure how many disc would be required nor if the 360 system could support the game"
Don't forget, FFXII used CG graphics in order to make it fit on a DVD because they couldn't get all that level of realism and make it work.

I wasn't disputing that it would take multiple discs, and I don't think that's much of a bad thing either. It's worked in the past, and I'm willing to bet it'd work again.

The comparison of the 360 and the PS3 isn't like comparing a GameBoy Pocket to PS2. They're both of the newest generation, and there really isn't much difference in them, until we start to really analyze the two. I doubt that casual gamer is sitting there playing a PS3 saying "Wow, look at that framerate! :eek: "

[Dragonsoul]

My choice is decided! ...

In March 2009 Japan will get with the Blu-Ray release of Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Complete, a demo of Final Fantasy XIII, and you will need a Playstation 3 to play it. Unless some other Xbox 360 demo is announced, that confirms it, I'll be getting a Playstation 3! I hope the demo doesn't take too long after that to come out in the Usa though.

I have time before that though to upgrade my pc and car.

Ur reaction? :choc2:?!
...ps FF Agito XIII and The 3rd Birthday are coming to PSP, they announced it today! :)

[Croyles]

Seriously, no point in discussing this at the moment as the game is still miles off.
Its probably just gonna start flame wars...

[Hyperion4444]

Versus is PS3 bound.
can't wait for Life with Playstation coming august.

[Mirage]

This is very simple. It will turn out like every other multiplatform release in the world. The console which the game was initially programmed for will get the best performance and quality. The consoles which get a port of the game will get slightly less performance and quality. Even a PS2 game that's ported to the Xbox can end up looking and performing better on the PS2, regardless of the fact that the Xbox is probably twice as powerful as the PS2. This is more often the rule than the exception.

As far as I (and everyone else) knows, FF13 is first being developed for the PS3.

Now, the 360 is not twice as powerful as the PS3, so work out the rest for yourselves.

Both consoles have an equal amount of RAM, by the way. The only difference is how the RAM is organized.

[Dragonsoul]

This is very simple. It will turn out like every other multiplatform release in the world. The console which the game was initially programmed for will get the best performance and quality. The consoles which get a port of the game will get slightly less performance and quality. Even a PS2 game that's ported to the Xbox can end up looking and performing better on the PS2, regardless of the fact that the Xbox is probably twice as powerful as the PS2. This is more often the rule than the exception.

As far as I (and everyone else) knows, FF13 is first being developed for the PS3.

Now, the 360 is not twice as powerful as the PS3, so work out the rest for yourselves.

Both consoles have an equal amount of RAM, by the way. The only difference is how the RAM is organized.

This is the best answer so far. So far we know of a PS 3 demo but no Xbox 360 demo is announced. I'll get the PS 3 version! :)

[Hyperion4444]

Don't start any statement of the Xbox 360 being better than the PS3 cause my PS2 games beats all 3rd party 360 born game with the only exception of the games made with the Unreal Engine that Sony specialist helped enormously to craft the engine itself!

I just really pissed offed with the recent turn of events.
Let's say it was my day for the last 5 hours.

[Roto13]

That's... some pretty impressive fanboyism there.

[Momiji]

Who cares which version is superior, just enjoy the game for christ sake.

QFT. The whiners here need to stuff it.

[Hyperion4444]

Well, I want the playable version of the game.
So I'll be getting the PlayStation 3 version.

[Raebus]

So, what makes you think the 360 version won't be playable? Have you travelled to the future and personally played the 360 version and thought "oh shucks this version ain't playable, hyuck" or are you just assuming?

Oh never mind, you make no sense.

[Raebus]

Don't start any statement of the Xbox 360 being better than the PS3 cause my PS2 games beats all 3rd party 360 born game with the only exception of the games made with the Unreal Engine that Sony specialist helped enormously to craft the engine itself!

I just really pissed offed with the recent turn of events.
Let's say it was my day for the last 5 hours.


Don't start any statement of the PS3 being better than the 360 then and we'll all get along fine.

[Hyperion4444]

So, what makes you think the 360 version won't be playable? Have you travelled to the future and personally played the 360 version and thought "oh shucks this version ain't playable, hyuck" or are you just assuming?

Oh never mind, you make no sense.

Care to tell everyone how you got that Xbox 360 Elite White or should I?

[Raebus]

Um, I got the 360 premium version. What the hell are you talking about now? Lets just enjoy the version we'll get, PS3 or 360 version instead of turning this into one giant pissing competition for smurfs sake.

[Hyperion4444]

Um, I got the 360 premium version. What the hell are you talking about now? Lets just enjoy the version we'll get, PS3 or 360 version instead of turning this into one giant pissing competition for smurfs sake.

Don't act like you don't know what I'm talking about.
Like the Xbox 360 supply constraints...
The RROD, you are familiar with the term.

[Raebus]

No, you just don't make sense or don't word things correctly so its your fault I didn't get that, kay?

You could have just MENTIONED that in the first place.

[Hyperion4444]

No, you just don't make sense or don't word things correctly so its your fault I didn't get that, kay?

You could have just MENTIONED that in the first place.

so you do know about that.
you're aware of the RROD.

[Raebus]

Not really. =P

I don't know much about the 360, I just play on it. I'm familiar with the red ring of death though, it hasn't happened to me yet. :)

The not really was to your previous post by the way.

[Hyperion4444]

Well, aren't you lucky. (or lying like the rest of them)
So seem to be in a good mood.
You wouldn't mind that I would tell the truth about this, right?

[Raebus]

It's okay Hyperion, I like remaining blissfully unaware of the truth. xD
The 360 is just a game/entertainment console to me, so I don't delve too much into its workings and what not. =P

[Roto13]

It's okay Hyperion, I like remaining blissfully unaware of the truth. xD
The 360 is just a game/entertainment console to me, so I don't delve too much into its workings and what not. =P

You know.
The way a Dictator works is to keep his people ignorant.
if you want to hide yourself from the truth, wouldn't that make you his slave?
I'm not saying that you are, so don't take it the wrong way, I don't want to insult you but rather make you see the truth here. even if you don't want to hear nor see it.
Slave: A person who's not in condition to be free, who is under power of an absolute master, may it be since birth, captured by war, sales, condamnation. (Dictionary)
Now, I never said that you are one nor should this be erased under any circumstances.
But you mustn't hide yourself from the truth.
You need to admit this for yourself.




I'll continue with the truth...

Get. Help.

[Hyperion4444]

sorry if I had to sound for trivial.
it's not my usual self. ok.
I just don't like when people refuses to admit the truth. (in this case the RROD)
because I know that when something goes bad at sony, they'll be the first one to be "in your face".
And that's irritating, espescially when they refuses to admit when something goes wrong on Microsoft's side (Likes them loosing the Bungie Halo team to Capcom, and Bungie's exclusivity altogether 'rumor')

I currently have a Wii and a PS3, but this 'next-generation' console war is just plain nasty. I hate that because it makes it difficult to actually enjoy any game on any platform.

I own a Xbox and a PS2 and used to have alot of respect for the Xbox console, but that respect has long disapeared for me...
And I lost respect for the Xbox console way before I purchased my PS3 this month. Simply because theses new guys are constantly bashing out other non-problematic consoles...

Microsoft is loosing everything in all of this and that's not what I've truly wanted...

[Roto13]

I just don't like when people refuses to admit the truth. (in this case the RROD)

You're delusional. Nobody said the 360 doesn't get the red ring.

[Raebus]

I just don't like when people refuses to admit the truth. (in this case the RROD)

You're delusional. Nobody said the 360 doesn't get the red ring.

QFT

Bashing non problematic consoles, you say? Every console has a problem, nothing is perfect.

[Hyperion4444]

I just don't like when people refuses to admit the truth. (in this case the RROD)

You're delusional. Nobody said the 360 doesn't get the red ring.

he said he wanted to be blissfully unaware of the truth.
If that's not a delution, then I'd rather not comment it anymore.

like I was saying...
It's not like I wanted Microsoft to loose Bioware, nor Bizzard Creations.
I certainly don't take pleasure in other people's suffering.
Like how Microsoft lost more than 1 billion in the first 4 months alone just in repairs of the RROD.
Or that PlayStation lost 765 million euro in one year just because of the overall manufacturing cost of the console was way above it's retail price.

All I've ever wanted was for everyone to enjoy their consoles and be happy, respect one another even on a different console.

But I seriously doupt that a peacefull resolution would be on the horizon.... not anytime soon and probably never.

[Raebus]

I know it exists but I'd rather not think about it, so shut up already. Honestly, would you want to think about your console stopping all of a sudden? When it comes it comes and I'll get it replaced but honest to god, the only trouble I'm seeing these days are from a small amount of PS3 owners.


Thank you, Roto.

[Roto13]

His reaction to your offer to throw out more rambling ignorance was a "No, thanks." I don't blame him.

[Hyperion4444]

All I truly want is everyone to enjoy there own console.
and to enjoy Final Fantasy too!
Thank you


One more thing that has been troubling me is that if Microsoft charges for each DVDs, what would Square-Enix do?
Would they try to compress what I believe is going to take 40GB into the dvd or will Square-Enix be charged more for multiple dvds?

[Yar]

I hope and pray to God that this thread gets archived so generations to come can read it and just laugh.

Hyperion, If you want to play the PS3 version on your PS3, then just go right ahead. Some of us may want to play it on an Xbox. We aren't asking you to play it on an Xbox, and we aren't spending your money. Stop trying to spend ours. As far as gaming is concerned, the two consoles are pretty much the same anyway.

Please, stop derailing a thread to argue over trivial matters over an even more trivial thing, A VIDEO GAME. ;)

[Hyperion4444]

I'm sorry for everyone.
Just that alot of things happened really fast recently in my life, that got thinking, and alot of soul shearching.
I still haven't found an anwser yet.

I'm just a nusance to anyone rigth now, that's never what I've wanted.

I don't like where the world is going, how in bad shape the world it is now.

I'm wondering if there's someone I can help...

Maybe it's time that I unpack the PS3 for the first time, since I didn't even went on the PS3, ever... nor played any games yet.



So I'm sorry for everyone here who read this and got offended.

It's the first time that something like this happened to me.
I never usually get rattled up either, nor go off to disclaim such irrationnel conclusions.


I'll g2g, I'll re-ensure you that this insidant don't happen againg.
I slept late last night and haven't ate ever since roto told us it could be delayed. (my brain wasn't feeling well since this morning)

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

I hope we're all done sniping at each other now. If not, there will be consequences.

[Hyperion4444]

all this debating has turn into argurments and frustration for everyone.
is there a point to keep this thread going?