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[M] Dee
08-17-2008, 09:56 PM
Dobby, I think the Survivor wins if he's still alive when the game ends.

[M] Aaron
08-17-2008, 09:57 PM
If Dudley is town, lynch me if you want, but I was merely defending myself against him radical claims, besides how in any way is Dudley helping us?

[M] Gaius
08-17-2008, 09:58 PM
If majority sways to vote Dudley, I'll change my vote. But I'm sticking with Myrtle.

[M] Aaron
08-17-2008, 09:58 PM
Voldemort;2550287']Myrtle, I really wouldn't mind voting for either Dudley, Pettigrew or Rubeus. But if you were town, there'd never had been really a reason to lie.

So either you are mafia, or some alternative role that depends on whether you live or die, or you just really suck at this game.

Bad I may be, but I am no mafian.

[M] Felix
08-17-2008, 09:58 PM
Luna:

You may be right... but even so, if he WAS the Survivor, what reason would he have to claim Myrtle was the last Mafia?

[M] Aaron
08-17-2008, 09:58 PM
I have to go, please vote Dudley.

[M] Dee
08-17-2008, 10:00 PM
Voldemort;2550293']If majority sways to vote Dudley, I'll change my vote. But I'm sticking with Myrtle.

Wait...what? You'll only vote for Dudley if there's already a majority? What? I must have misunderstood. Because that just screams scum to me.

[M] Gaius
08-17-2008, 10:01 PM
I want them both to die. If the town wants Dudley dead and there aren't enough votes, I'll gladly change my mind.

But I'm sticking with Myrtle because I've been finding her fishy since Day 2.

[M] Dee
08-17-2008, 10:02 PM
Dobby: It's fairly reasonable for him to think that. Three mafia are gone, and a lot of games have only had four mafia. I'm guessing we have something more like two, maybe three left. Depending on what roles are in play.

[M] Dee
08-17-2008, 10:02 PM
Voldemort;2550299']I want them both to die. If the town wants Dudley dead and there aren't enough votes, I'll gladly change my mind.

But I'm sticking with Myrtle because I've been finding her fishy since Day 2.

Speed lynching isn't good, either >.<

[M] Elize
08-17-2008, 10:03 PM
Moaning Myrtle;2550294']
Bad I may be.

Understatement of the century.

Dudley isn't someone I trust to be town, but I never had much more then a gut feeling of him being mafia.

You, on the other hand, are beyond mafia. You are ANNOYING.

In nearly every sense of the word. Spamming up 2 days worth of Mafia, what made us unable to look for any real mafia members.

and now, accusing everyone and everything of being mafia.

##vote: Myrtle

The sooner we lose you, the better. And if you turn out to be a power role, I'll smack you into orbit. :mad:

And Voldermort, I have my eye on you. You're posting scummily of late.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
08-17-2008, 10:04 PM
Wow I was the one to unvote her and she starts spouting kill him kill him now! wow Well Ill leave my vote off for now seeing as people want me dead. And you'd believe the person who made like 7 roleclaims in like 15 minutes over me who has been pretty nonscummy the entire game?

[M] Gaius
08-17-2008, 10:04 PM
I'm not trying to speed lynch. I mean if there aren't enough votes to kill Dudley over someone else (besides Myrtle), I'll vote Dudley.

Majority in that sense, not majority-speed lynching-wise.

[M] Aaron
08-17-2008, 10:05 PM
Remus that screams mafia, defending a mafia.

Kill me, then kick yourselves 'cus I'm vanilla town.

[M] Dee
08-17-2008, 10:05 PM
Um. We're three votes away from ending the day. Can't we just put our votes down later or something?


S:

[M] Gaius
08-17-2008, 10:06 PM
I thought it took 9 to lynch?

[M] Aaron
08-17-2008, 10:06 PM
Dudley Dursley;2550306']Wow I was the one to unvote her and she starts spouting kill him kill him now! wow Well Ill leave my vote off for now seeing as people want me dead. And you'd believe the person who made like 7 roleclaims in like 15 minutes over me who has been pretty nonscummy the entire game?

Looking forward to getting lynched after I die?

[M] Dee
08-17-2008, 10:07 PM
Maybe you're both scum ._.

[M] Gaius
08-17-2008, 10:11 PM
Well, I reread and it takes 7 to lynch. ;_;

I am ##Unvote: Myrtle now just to delay the game, but I fully intend to revote for her later in the day.

[M] Aaron
08-17-2008, 10:12 PM
Bye Dursley. :bigsmile:

##vote: Moaning myrtle

[M] Elize
08-17-2008, 10:12 PM
Oh, how mature Myrtle. I don't vote for the person you want me to vote for, so I must be covering up for my mafia buddy?

Isn't, by your own admission, there only one mafia member left?

And seriously, I'd rather vote for Voldemort or Pettigrew right now. Pettigrew is either Vanilla who doesn't really want to get involved, or a recruiter. Voldemort is just acting scummy.

Dudley I hadn't even thought of until you mentioned it. That should've been enough, I am thoroughly looking through his posts. I was giving you another chance, but now I see my vote was just.

[M] Dee
08-17-2008, 10:17 PM
Why do you say recruiter, Remus o.o

[M] Elize
08-17-2008, 10:21 PM
Well, there could perhaps be a cult. It is a large game.

When people get Vanilla townie, experienced players would just take it and play, but newbies would find it boring and maybe come in once a day to vote.

Recruiters stay hidden in the shadows, not coming out much or at all, at risk of being discovered.

Pettigrew and Filch both do as such, but I reckon they are both Townie. Pettigrew seems scummy, but he could just as well be a Mason recruiter, and we wouldn't want to lose that one. Plus, there hasn't been a Cult kill yet, so I'd never act on that.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
08-17-2008, 10:24 PM
It should be pointed out that Dumbledore has not posted in about 2.5 days now and missed two votes (though first one was a majority lynching). That's a long time. Does that person need replacing?

[M] Elize
08-17-2008, 10:31 PM
Now that you mention it, I hadn't even thought of him.

He only posted 4 times too, didn't he?

Inactives are such a bother in this game.

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 10:35 PM
I chose to roleblock/protect Ms. Granger. Why?

Ron or Draco? I kept on swapping, so I chose Hermoine. Draco seemed to have far too many innocent readings, in which I assumed he was covering up or naive. Though I did not want to sacrifice him, I took the risk.

Regarding Ron, I couldn't find a reason to protect/roleblock him.

So I chose Ms. Granger

##Vote-Myrtle

Your early banter and claims are too radical, Dudley may not be helpng, but he's not hurting either, so I chose the ditraction and person who is far too outrageous to keep alive.

[M] Aaron
08-17-2008, 10:47 PM
Why did you block her?

[M] Aaron
08-17-2008, 10:47 PM
Oh and congrats on lynching a vanilla townie.

[M] Elize
08-17-2008, 10:47 PM
Buckbeak;2550356']
Ron or Draco? I kept on swapping, so I chose Hermoine.

This scentence seems strange to me. You couldn't decide between them, so you chose someone else?

And the two persons who you were choosing between, happened to be the one's that were killed.

I think you might've worded this wrong, because it makes little sense.


Buckbeak;2550356']
Draco seemed to have far too many innocent readings.

Also, in a 23-player game, two innocent readings aren't that unusual.

Hindsight isn't something you can use in an argument, especially since he only investigated one person besides himself.


Moaning Myrtle;2550369']Oh and congrats on lynching a vanilla idiot.

Fixed. :)

[M] Aaron
08-17-2008, 10:49 PM
Also when Buckbeak flips non-Jailkeeper, you guys'll hit yourselves. xD

##kill: Buckbeak

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 10:49 PM
Yeah, but I also felt they would target someone else since people were urging me to choose between the two. So I chose one who might be less obvious to target.

[M] Dee
08-17-2008, 10:56 PM
o:

[M] Aaron
08-17-2008, 10:57 PM
Luna Lovegood;2550392']o:

What?

[M] Dee
08-17-2008, 10:58 PM
I'm waiting to see if Buckbeak actually dies! I mean that was pretty much a roleclaim right there >.>

[M] Aaron
08-17-2008, 11:00 PM
that wasn't serious. xD

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:01 PM
No it wasn't, my role was already defined. XD

[M] Dee
08-17-2008, 11:01 PM
Oh.


You know this is sounding a lot like the end of Mafia IX to me.

[M] Aaron
08-17-2008, 11:02 PM
In what way?

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:02 PM
What do you mean?

[M] Dee
08-17-2008, 11:04 PM
Phoenix/Myrtle was like ZOMG WILL/DUDLEY IS SCUM HE'S THE GODFATER EVEN and then they were like, NU-UH! YOU'RE SCUM! and people were choosing between Phoenix and Will.

So now I know who to vote for anyway.

[M] Aaron
08-17-2008, 11:04 PM
Yeah, the vanilla town. :mad2:

[M] Dee
08-17-2008, 11:05 PM
I think you're both scum :p

[M] Aaron
08-17-2008, 11:06 PM
Then your wrong. <_<

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:06 PM
Wut?

[M] Elize
08-17-2008, 11:06 PM
Buckbeak;2550377']Yeah, but I also felt they would target someone else since people were urging me to choose between the two. So I chose one who might be less obvious to target.

Isn't the whole reason of having a protective role, to protect someone who is being targetted?

Night kills are uncontrolled by town. What you are saying now is that you scentenced them to death.

It could've easily been that both Ron and Draco had been townie.

If all you said is true you are in fact the worst doctor I've seen in a long time. Actually, since I was one. xD

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:09 PM
Or they could've both been serial killers.

If I 'What If' in the right way, I could make it a genius move, so 'What If's' can't work, especially for protective roles.

[M] Elize
08-17-2008, 11:16 PM
Could be, but that's a chance. It is true that it's up to you to decide who to protect, but all lynching should be done through the entire town.

If you see someone who is going to get killed and think: "Oh, but I don't like him, so I'll protect someone who won't be killed anyway."

You'd be like a doctor who would protect himself all day(and we all hate those guys). Plus if they were a serial killer, wouldn't you stop the kill with the roleblock?

[M] Dee
08-17-2008, 11:19 PM
It's really better for doctors to protect themselves early on, because they don't have an idea of who anyone is. They're much more useful later on, so their main priority should be keeping themselves alive until they can protect someone they believe to be the cop.

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:19 PM
I'm not protecting people I like.

Secondly, if I protect a Serial Killer, people would be angry on why I didn't let him die. X(

EDIT-Besides, I cannot protect myself, I'm a Jailkeeper.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
08-17-2008, 11:27 PM
Buckbeak;2550444']I'm not protecting people I like.

Secondly, if I protect a Serial Killer, people would be angry on why I didn't let him die. X(

EDIT-Besides, I cannot protect myself, I'm a Jailkeeper.
Yea it'd be a paradox youd block the protection and the block

[M] Elize
08-17-2008, 11:29 PM
Buckbeak;2550444']I'm not protecting people I like.

Secondly, if I protect a Serial Killer, people would be angry on why I didn't let him die. X(

EDIT-Besides, I cannot protect myself, I'm a Jailkeeper.

If you think someone might be a mafia or serial killer, you should roleblock them.

You cannot control mafia kills(or can you?) and therefore it seems foolish to me to trust that the mafia would pick a killing role over a townie. Stopping a kill is more important than the chance that the mafia might kill scum.

I can't make it more simple for you to understand.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-17-2008, 11:31 PM
Okay, time for me to reveal my role. I'm the Record Keeper Once per night, I randomly investigate one person. I have no choice in who I investigate. I have 3 people who all have roles.

Peter Pettigrew is the Jester
While, I hate to agree with Myrtle, Dudley Dursley is the Godfather. This means either two Mafia, or the Godfather gets replaced when he dies.
Filch is the Paranoid Gun Owner.
I'm sure a few of you won't believe me, though if you decide to lynch me, you'll find I am the Record Keeper and then you'll have wasted a day when you could have got the Godfather.

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:31 PM
I understand, Lupin, but I suppose the role vs. protection is debatable.

Personally, I wasn't trying to get either killed.

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:32 PM
Snape, WTF!?

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-17-2008, 11:34 PM
I was worried about getting Night Killed, and so I wanted to get this out there. If you want, lynch me, find out I'm the Record Keeper and then realise you've wasted a day.

[M] Dee
08-17-2008, 11:34 PM
o.O


o.O!!!!!

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-17-2008, 11:34 PM
Sorry if the roleclaim is hurting you're head Luna!

[M] Dee
08-17-2008, 11:36 PM
I was torn between Dudley and Myrtle the whole time anyway so I have no problem with voting Dudley to test your claim.

[M] Elize
08-17-2008, 11:37 PM
Severus Snape;2550471']Okay, time for me to reveal my role. I'm the Record Keeper Once per night, I randomly investigate one person. I have no choice in who I investigate. I have 3 people who all have roles.

Peter Pettigrew is the Jester
While, I hate to agree with Myrtle, Dudley Dursley is the Godfather. This means either two Mafia, or the Godfather gets replaced when he dies.
Filch is the Paranoid Gun Owner.
I'm sure a few of you won't believe me, though if you decide to lynch me, you'll find I am the Record Keeper and then you'll have wasted a day when you could have got the Godfather.

There are several things I want cleared up.

1. Peter Pettigrew doesn't post enough to be a Jester. Myrtle in day 2 and 3 would be Jester behaviour.

2. With such a good role, wouldn't Filch post more?

3. Dudley Godfather? Possible, but you could also be covering for Myrtle. A last desperation attempt.

Let's see what Dudley says before anything. I don't know what to make of it anymore. Record keeper doesn't seem a role too strange for this game, but Peter being a Jester bothers me.

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:37 PM
o.O

Yep, I'm shocked.

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:38 PM
Why rolcelaim now?

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-17-2008, 11:38 PM
However, don't forget, I might be insane or something. While I was told I was just the regular old Record Keeper, this game has had so many twists, that I'm not sure if I can trust my own Results.

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:39 PM
So, to test the claim, I am willing to sacrifice myself to see if Filch really is Paranoid, if you are fine with that.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-17-2008, 11:40 PM
I roleclaimed now, because I was worried about being night killed without getting my results out there.


1. Peter Pettigrew doesn't post enough to be a Jester. Myrtle in day 2 and 3 would be a Jester.

2. With such a good role, wouldn't Filch post more?

3. Dudley Godfather? Possible, but you could also be covering for Myrtle. A last desperation attempt.

1. Just because he doesn't post, doesn't mean he isn't Jester.

2. Not neccessarily. Remember, we've had two Filches now. Hopefully this one will post more.

3. No. I hate Myrtle. I hope she is Scum, just so we can get rid of her. I voted for her last round as well. Wouldn't do that if I was covering for her.

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:42 PM
Wow, this changes the game. A lot.

But why would Myrtle expose the Godfather unless she the Usurper?

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-17-2008, 11:43 PM
^ She might be! I never thought of that before. Of course, we don't know if she is scum.

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:44 PM
Yeah. Just tossing it out there.

[M] Elize
08-17-2008, 11:44 PM
I forgot Peter was replaced, but still, it doesn't seem like Jester behaviour.

Filch could be true, I'll give you that.

I couldn't find Record keeper in the flash, so I would assume they made it up.

Whatever happens now, you did right. If I found a godfather, I would've done the same.

Although, with so much suspision on Dudley, I don't think it would've been neccesary.

[M] Gaius
08-17-2008, 11:44 PM
Wait. Severus, if we lynch Dudley and you're right, does that mean that someone actually has credibility?

I've been wanting both Myrtle and Dudley dead, so I have no problem voting Dudley.

[M] Gaius
08-17-2008, 11:45 PM
But I don't want a similar thing like when Neville got us to kill Chong.

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:46 PM
So, wanna vote for Dudley, guys?

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-17-2008, 11:46 PM
No, you're right, Lupin. I checked for Record Keeper in the flash for about half an hour. I agree with the Jester comment and the Dudley comment, I just didn't want people to vote for someone who might be Town.

[M] Gaius
08-17-2008, 11:46 PM
No, not yet.

[M] Elize
08-17-2008, 11:47 PM
If everyone votes Dudley, I might be okay with it.

But I want Myrtle out as soon as possible. She has been breaking up the discussions as soon as she came here and the only reason we are having a serious one now is because she isn't here.

That said, I will go by the town's descision on this one. If everyone votes Dudley, I'm okay with it. We probably would've done so tomorrow anyway.

But! I want to hear a defence from Dudley. I don't want something like Cho to happen again. (Darn that Psychotic!)

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-17-2008, 11:48 PM
No, we should let him defend himself first. As I said, I might be insane. I was just told Record Keeper.

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:48 PM
Yeah, let's eliminate Myrtle first.

[M] Gaius
08-17-2008, 11:48 PM
And with Buckbeak's comment (Wanna lynch Dudley?), I now look upon both Buckbeak and Severus as possible scum.

They could be working together to get Dudley lynched. :mad:

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:49 PM
I wanna lynch him to test Snape's claim.

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:49 PM
Besides, he comes and goes without much explanation, anyway.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
08-17-2008, 11:50 PM
You guy do realize that Record Keeper (or whatever blue it is) is the same color as Blabbermouth. He has no affiliation with this town he could be a third party and he is just trying to get another person down.

[M] Gaius
08-17-2008, 11:50 PM
I'd rather hold off for voting Dudley, simply because I think you and Severus could be lying...

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-17-2008, 11:50 PM
As I said, Lynch me. Find out if I'm lying or being truthful and then lynch based on what comes up.

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:51 PM
But Blabbermouth was town, blue is used to show investigative roles.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-17-2008, 11:51 PM
Actually, Dudders, I was told I win with the Town.

[M] Elize
08-17-2008, 11:51 PM
Buckbeak;2550513']I wanna lynch him to test Snape's claim.

This is a very bad reason to lynch someone. If we did that anytime anyone roleclaimed, everyone would've been dead by now.

Remember Cho?

Remember the fact that we actually haven't lynched a Mafia yet?

All the Mafia kills are to be given to the Vig or serial killer.

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:52 PM
But he's annoying and not helping much. Xp

[M] Gaius
08-17-2008, 11:53 PM
I'm suddenly feeling the urge to kill Buckbeak.

While I think Dudley is rather suspicious, my suspicions have now been replaced with a Buckbeak/Severus possible mafia affiliation?

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-17-2008, 11:53 PM
^ Lupin is right. If anything, Lynch me to test my claim. If I turn up Mafia, go you, if not, lynch Dudley and see what comes up.

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:54 PM
C'mon, just because I believe Snape?

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
08-17-2008, 11:54 PM
Also you even said you could be insane so when I die and I'm Vanilla Town you can just say oh well I'm just insane then.

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:55 PM
I doubt they would make a custom role insane...

[M] Gaius
08-17-2008, 11:55 PM
Buckbeak;2550525']C'mon, just because I believe Snape?

No because you now seem to want Dudley lynched simply because of what Severus has said.

You two may be in cahoots with each other.

[M] Elize
08-17-2008, 11:55 PM
Buckbeak;2550522']But he's annoying and not helping much. Xp

Then vote for him because of that reason, not an uncomfirmed roleclaim. But that is a very slippery road to go on.

He hasn't helped the town, but he also hasn't worked against it.

That said, I want a real defence this time Dudders. I know I won't change my vote today unless he really slips up, but this is all for tomorrows lynch in my eyes.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-17-2008, 11:56 PM
So? I'll just get Night Killed anyway. By either the Mafia or Vig or whatever, who finds me a threat to them/Town/Whatever.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-17-2008, 11:56 PM
sorry, my post was at Dudders.

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:57 PM
I think he's at least telling the truth, his sanity is questionable.

[M] Gaius
08-17-2008, 11:57 PM
Severus Snape;2550530']So? I'll just get Night Killed anyway. By either the Mafia or Vig or whatever, who finds me a threat to them/Town/Whatever.

Well, if you're night killed, we'd still see your true role.

Maybe I'd rather have the mafia kill you than town?

[M] Elize
08-17-2008, 11:57 PM
And Snape, I seriously doubt that they would mae a random investigative role that is hardly used in mafia games, insane.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
08-17-2008, 11:58 PM
I'm hesitant to want to lynch someone based solely on one person's word with no other evidence. But lynching Snape would be worse, since if he's true, would just be doing the mafia's job for them. If you guys want to test Snape's roleclaim, lynching Dudley would be a lesser evil. At least we'd have a little more to go on than "just being annoying" like the current Myrtle bandwagon is.

Still, I'm sticking with my current vote for Hermione for now. She has been the most suspicious to me that I think is most likely scum.

[M] Anise
08-17-2008, 11:58 PM
Unless you're mafia yourselfZ!!!1!ONE!!

[M] Gaius
08-17-2008, 11:59 PM
Why don't we wait on any of Severus' role claims (as in roles he's claiming others have) until something credible shows up. Like him predicting one of us correctly?

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-17-2008, 11:59 PM
Exactly. However, that's why I want to either lynch Dudders, or myself. If we lynch Dudders and he flips Mafia, the Doctor can protect me or whatever, or leave me to die by the Mafia. If you lynch me and I flip Town, Vig can night kill Dudders.

[M] Gaius
08-18-2008, 12:00 AM
Ugh, I keep forgetting there is a possible vigilante/serial killer.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-18-2008, 12:00 AM
Voldy, what if I predict one of you as Mafia? You're not going to admit that are you?

[M] Elize
08-18-2008, 12:01 AM
Rubeus Hagrid;2550536']At least we'd have a little more to go on than "just being annoying" like the current Myrtle bandwagon is.


It's not only being annoying. It's actively working against the town's ability to discuss and observe. I cannot question someone if 15 posts of her come between it. I need my mind at it's clearest with all these roleclaims.

But as I said before, I will go with the town on this one. If you all want Dudley, I will go for Dudley.

[M] Gaius
08-18-2008, 12:01 AM
Voldy, what if I predict one of you as Mafia? You're not going to admit that are you?

No, but if you predict someone to have a pro-town role and it's correct, then all of your other claims suddenly become valid.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-18-2008, 12:02 AM
But, I might be night killed or Lynched before then.

[M] Anise
08-18-2008, 12:03 AM
Same, as long as it isn't me or Snape, for I want to see his credibility later.

However, I still think we need to get Myrtle.

[M] Gaius
08-18-2008, 12:03 AM
If that happens, then we still learn your role.

[M] Anise
08-18-2008, 12:04 AM
Man, this game is confusing!

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-18-2008, 12:05 AM
True. Then, why don't we go for Myrtle? That way, Mafia will kill me tonight and you guys can get Dudley on Day 5.

[M] Anise
08-18-2008, 12:06 AM
Works for me.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-18-2008, 12:15 AM
I'm gonna Unvote Myrtle. I'm unsure if she's Mafia or whatever at the moment.
##Unvote: Myrtle
I'll probably Vote her again later.

[M] Anise
08-18-2008, 12:17 AM
Wait, your unvoting someone because you think she might not be mafia just so you can vote for her?

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-18-2008, 12:19 AM
I'm going to give her one last chance to explain herself. I doubt she'll be able to, so I probably will Vote for her, I just don't want a majority Lynch so early.

[M] Anise
08-18-2008, 12:21 AM
Oh, okay. Makes sense.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
08-18-2008, 12:28 AM
Ok I don't know what to say and I don't know who to trust. I don't know if Snape is lying or just uninformed. I'm not the Jester though, so I can't trust any of his results. Record Keeper is an extremely powerful role if it is how he described, and I doubt that it would be included in this game.

Either Snape is a lying scum or he has some alteration in his role. Maybe there is a Godfather and a Jester and it's NOT those people. That would explain some things since the Godfather was already killed.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-18-2008, 12:29 AM
I'm not the Jester though
Well the Jester wouldn't admit to being the Jester would he?

[M] Anise
08-18-2008, 12:33 AM
Of course.

[M] Anise
08-18-2008, 12:34 AM
Oh, and I can I see a vote count, HP?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
08-18-2008, 12:35 AM
Of course the Jester wouldn't admit to being the jester. Just don't lynch me and problem solved!

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-18-2008, 12:38 AM
From what you said, it sounded like you were admitting Jester. Therefore, if I flip Town, Vig should Night Kill you, so you don't win.

[M] Mom – Host
08-18-2008, 01:08 AM
Moaning Myrtle (4): Peter Pettigrew, Remus Lupin, Moaning Myrtle, Buckbeak, <s>Serverus Snape</s>, <S>Voldemort</s>, <S>Dudley Dursley</s>
Hermione Granger (1): Rubeus Hagrid
Dudley Dursley (0): <s>Moaning Myrtle</s>
Buckbeak (0): <s>Moaning Myrtle</S>

with only 7 to lynch, myrtle is still only 3 away from a lynch.

LoM again:D

[M] Mom – Host
08-18-2008, 01:37 AM
I'm back, hurray! (you know, Denmark)

[M] Felix
08-18-2008, 01:41 AM
Have we completely ruled out a second Mafia? You all speak as if that is no longer a possibility. There is a chance, however slim, that Snape's roleclaim is true. The main question is, how do we figure out how to test it? Dudley claims that he is Vanilla Town, but Snape says his role is Godfather. In my opinion, and I might be wrong, the best way to figure it out would be to go after Dudley... If he is a Vanilla Townie, then at least we did not lose a power role, yes? If he is actually a Godfather, then we have just found a very good role to have on our side.

This makes the most sense to me... Dudley claims Vanilla Townie... but, of course, there is a slight possibility that he is just using that as a cover for a power role.

Of course it is all up to the town on what to do.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-18-2008, 02:11 AM
How much time is left of this Day?

[M] Gaius
08-18-2008, 02:21 AM
Until like noon tomorrow. (EDT)

[M] Mom – Host
08-18-2008, 02:22 AM
16 hours and 10 minutes (12:30pm EDT tomorrow).

[M] Gaius
08-18-2008, 02:24 AM
I just don't know whom to kill now.

I still wouldn't mind killing Myrtle or Dudley, regardless of what Severus may or may not be. I'd prefer of the two, Dudley, only because his death can give information, and I'd prefer that over muting Myrtle.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-18-2008, 02:25 AM
Thanks. Just wanted to know if I'd be online before the Day ended, if it doesn't end in a Majority.

[M] Gaius
08-18-2008, 02:31 AM
Why is Myrtle voting for herself?

[M] Dee
08-18-2008, 02:35 AM
Iunno. Trying to look like the jester, I guess.

[M] Anise
08-18-2008, 02:59 AM
Yeah, it's rather odd.Xp

[M] Caprica
08-18-2008, 03:35 AM
Well balls. I come back and Snape flips something interesting.

This is another case of wanting to believe. I trusted Neville yesterday and got burned. I don't want to do that again, but...

this is another situation of "What does Snape have to gain?"

We know lynchee and lyncher are gone and there is 99.9% chance there would not be two of those in the same game.

Really, what do we have to lose by knocking off old DD? We might solidify one of our most powerful roles - and we can always leave Myrtle for tomorrow. If DD is the godfather, does that mean Myrtle is just a poor player, or does it mean might have an usurper, or something?

Though perhaps they could get taken out tonight and we'd still learn something.

Also - while Buckbeak's story has some holes, it's still plausible. I've been trying to think up situations, and if Beaky here was somehow blocked on night 2 that would explain everything. Yes, it's kind of a stretch, but it's another situation where I'm not getting bad vibes.

Lastly, if I may, I'd like to find Hagrid what he finds so scummy about myself? The only way to win is by working together, and if I can clear something up, that'd be great.

[M] Felix
08-18-2008, 03:45 AM
Hermione:

I've been thinking about Buckbeak's claim, as well. We still haven't totally ruled out a second Mafia. I've been reading up on the roles and the Mafia Hitman and the Mafia Ninja could both slip through protective roles. If we are dealing with a second Mafia, they would have no problem killing off members of the first. That's just my own specualtion, though.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
08-18-2008, 03:46 AM
Thing is, I don't think Dudley is the godfather. Two godfathers is rather strange. True, there has been multiple scum groups before but with crap like Jester and Lyncher/Lynchee that is too many groups at once.

I still think Myrtle is the best bet. Again I reiterate that Snape is either confused or purposefully spreading lies. You ask what he has to gain? Well causing confusion is a large gain for the mafia. But in all honesty I think he is either insane or some other weird crap caveat that causes his "findings" to be different in some way.

Otherwise his roll would be way too powerful.

Right now my top two suspects are Myrtle and Buckbeak.

[M] Caprica
08-18-2008, 03:47 AM
Yeah. Two mafia's is still a possibility. In this game, especially, the trick is to keep an open mind.

That said, I'm not entirely sure what to do today.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-18-2008, 03:53 AM
Peter: My role is too powerful? I have no choice in who I investigate. In that aspect, the Cop is far better than me. Really, when it comes down to it, if I turn out to be Record Keeper when I'm night killed/lynched then you'll be screwed Pettigrew. If I don't then you'll be safe. But in all honesty, until proven differently, I think you're the Jester and trying to cover for yourself.

[M] Dee
08-18-2008, 03:57 AM
I'll just go ahead and vote now :p


##Vote: Dudley Dursley

[M] Felix
08-18-2008, 03:59 AM
Pettigrew:

We haven't yet confirmed that there is a Jester... Unless you know something we don't. So far, Myrtle has claimed Jester, but she has also claimed many other things. Don't forget that Mafias don't have to be larger... with the number of players in this game, two small Mafias wouldn't be too impossible. If we do, in fact, lynch Dudley we have the possibility of confirming that second Mafia unless the Godfather got replaced somehow... If Dudley isn't a Godfather, we can begin looking closer at Snape. Dudley only claims Vanilla, rather than a power role, so if he is telling the truth, we have little to lose... don't we?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
08-18-2008, 04:02 AM
Knowing someone's specific role is far more powerful than a simple scum/not scum. First of all cops don't even know their sanity, and as we have seen that comes into play a lot.

Knowing someone's specific role is by far the most powerful thing a person can be given. Randomness does not really change it all that much in my opinion. That is why I think there's something strange going on here (well, I know there is).

I'm lost on what to do at this point. We can lynch Snape to see the truth if y'all want.

[M] Felix
08-18-2008, 04:05 AM
If we lynch Snape and it turns out he was telling the truth, then we just lost a major advantage over the Mafia. If we lynch Dudders, who claims he is merely a Vanilla Townie, we can see if he is telling the truth, get rid of someone who is contributing little, aside from a few small posts against the people who everyone is already against, and POSSIBLY, confirm a second Mafia.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
08-18-2008, 04:08 AM
Dobby: The only problem with that is I know he isn't the godfather because I'm not the jester. But if you want to prove it I guess we could lynch him. If he's something else then we know snape is a liar and likely scum. Is that the plan?

[M] Felix
08-18-2008, 04:13 AM
That's the thought, yes. If Dudders ends up being just a Vanilla Townie, Snape is up to something. If he ends up a Godfather, then we know that Snape's findings are at the very least partially correct.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-18-2008, 04:13 AM
In my role description it said that I investigate randomly and that I might investigate the same person or even myself. Not very powerful at all. Also, I don't know my own Sanity.

[M] Caprica
08-18-2008, 04:15 AM
And if he does flip mafia, we know Pettigrew is a LYING LYING jester.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
08-18-2008, 04:17 AM
Godfather, not just mafia. Anyway this seems like the best course of action.

<b>##unvote
##vote: Dudley</b>

[M] Anise
08-18-2008, 04:25 AM
Man, what is up here!?

[M] Mom – Host
08-18-2008, 04:34 AM
Moaning Myrtle (3): Remus Lupin, Moaning Myrtle, Buckbeak, <s>Dudley Dursley</s>, <s>Voldemort</s>, <s>Severus Snape</s>, <s>Peter Pettigrew</s>
Dudley Dursley (2): Luna Lovegood, Peter Pettigrew, <s>Moaning Myrtle</s>
Hermione Granger (1): Rubeus Hagrid
Buckbeak (0): <s>Moaning Myrtle</s>

That's what's up. Approximately 14 hours left.

[M] Felix
08-18-2008, 04:35 AM
Snape has made a very big roleclaim and we are trying to find the easiest way to confirm it...

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-18-2008, 04:38 AM
I think the easiest way would be to lynch me. If I flip Town, you know who to get. If I flip Scum, you haven't lost anyone important and instead, you've got rid of a Mafia. Another possibility is me flipping insane, though that doesn't seem likely.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
08-18-2008, 04:43 AM
You've been trying to suggest we lynch you to prove your words for a while now. But why would you really want us to do that unless you're lying? Wouldn't it be better for the town to lynch the guy you said was scum (and Godfather, no less!) than to lose such a powerful role? And yeah, the mafia would want to kill you, but us killing you first would just then free them up to kill someone else.

Are you the real Jester? :p

[M] Anise
08-18-2008, 04:43 AM
So, I think we should lynch Snape. Who agrees?

EDIT-Hagrid, he could be sacrificng himself, but you have a point.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-18-2008, 04:45 AM
Well, then leave me. Lynch Dudders and then find out if I'm telling the truth. Despite what happens, the Mafia will Night Kill me.

[M] Anise
08-18-2008, 04:46 AM
Damn, my head hurts!

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-18-2008, 04:47 AM
^ That's to be expected. The amount of role claims in this game is enough to hurt anyones head.

[M] Felix
08-18-2008, 04:47 AM
I doubt it, as well. If they are willing to put this powerful a role into the game, I doubt they would make it insane. I still say we go with Dudley... he claims Vanilla Townie, you claim Godfather. If he is townie, we know to go after you, if he ends up Godfather, we know that we have a very powerful role on our side and can find someone to protect you.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-18-2008, 04:50 AM
That seems like the best thing, Dobby.

[M] Anise
08-18-2008, 04:50 AM
I agree, either way, we learn something important.

##Unvote-Myrtle
##Vote-Dudley

[M] Caprica
08-18-2008, 04:51 AM
The ability to know what someone is but not being able to pick make it much more balanced - you can't investigate someone when you need to.

Mafia cop is a much more powerful role. We found one of those already.

[M] Anise
08-18-2008, 04:53 AM
Indeed, the role seems like a powerful role, but with moderate balance. Of course, you can have the best roles ever and lose due to poor strategy.

*cough*Mafia IX*cough*

[M] Gaius
08-18-2008, 05:35 AM
Okay, now I really believe there is something up. Severus, I really think there is something going on between you and Beakbeak. Why do you keep insisting we kill you? You keep saying your role isn't that powerful, but that kind of information is invaluable.

I'm starting to think you're mafia more and more, and if you end up mafia, I'll feel the same about Beakbeak. It'll depend on who dies tonight, because I don't see why the mafia would kill one of its own.

I'm still suspicious of Dudley and Myrtle, as well.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-18-2008, 05:50 AM
Why are you so suspicious of me and Buckbeak? All he did was agree with me and you jumped on him instantly. While it was pretty silly of him to just trust me like that, most of you did. I'm not insisting you kill me. Though, if Dudders flips Mafia, I'll just get Night Killed unless there is another Doctor, that doesn't involve roleblocking such as Buckbeak's, if he's being honest about his role. Otherwise, my role would be useless anyway.

[M] Anise
08-18-2008, 05:57 AM
Yeah, I pretty much was looking for an ally, and his appear to be plausible, and I support his plan, for it seems it will help people out a lot.

[M] Felix
08-18-2008, 05:58 AM
Snape:

True enough. Buckbeak's role, should it be Jailkeeper, would kinda cancel out yours while protecting you, wouldn't it? I still only see one way to confirm your role, though, without losing a possible asset. As I have to leave soon and do not know what time tomorrow I will be back, I shall just have to see what happens.

For now:

##Vote: Dudley Dursley

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-18-2008, 06:04 AM
Personally, I'm not going to vote for Dudders. I want everyone else to decide what to do. Instead, I'll vote for someone randomly.

[M] Gaius
08-18-2008, 06:27 AM
Personally, I'm going to hold off voting for anyone until tomorrow. I'm split between a few people, so I'm hoping someone says something HUGE. Otherwise, I think I'll be re-voting Myrtle. Although a vote for Dudley isn't out of the question.

[M] Mom – Host
08-18-2008, 08:06 AM
Dudley Dursley (4): Luna Lovegood, Peter Pettigrew, Buckbeak, Dobby, <s>Moaning Myrtle</s>
Moaning Myrtle (2): Remus Lupin, Moaning Myrtle, <s>Buckbeak</s>, <s>Dudley Dursley</s>, <s>Voldemort</s>, <s>Severus Snape</s>, <s>Peter Pettigrew</s>
Hermione Granger (1): Rubeus Hagrid
Buckbeak (0): <s>Moaning Myrtle</s>

7 votes to lynch, 10 hours and 24 minutes to go, I'll see you all tomorrow.

[M] Anise
08-18-2008, 10:28 AM
I come back to find I'm in hot water, not good. I just want to know what makes me/us look so suspicious?

[M] Aaron
08-18-2008, 10:30 AM
Thank god! you guys saw sense.
I need to read a few pages, hopefully I'll be back with my opinion.

[M] Aaron
08-18-2008, 10:37 AM
Ok, WOW the Snape roleclaim is BIG.

But I believe it, Snape was against Dudley for a while now, it could indicate Snape knew and was seeing if he could lynch Dudley without having to give info away.
I'm lynching Dudley I knew he was scummy, and now we almost have proof its time to hang 'im.

##Unvote: Myrtle
##Vote: Dudley

P.S I did notice he was very quick to defend himself earlier, and on the first day, when I reread it again he was very sensitive when people had the slightest suspicion of him.

[M] Anise
08-18-2008, 01:29 PM
Buckbeak;2550799']I come back to find I'm in hot water, not good. I just want to know what makes me/us look so suspicious?
I believed Snape a little bit and wanted to test out his plan. Yeah, that's it, the suspect we have some plan going on.

[M] Aaron
08-18-2008, 01:33 PM
As far as I see it, lynching Dudley is the only viable course of action, Buckbeak I'm no longer suspicious of you anymore but your roleclaim was just sudden at the time and seemed strange, thats okay now though. :)

[M] Elize
08-18-2008, 02:53 PM
I agree with everyone, Dudley might be the safest lead we've had all game long. Snape's roleclaim sounds very real. Plus, most of the roles seem to fit. (I say most, because the Jester doesn't) And if it doesn't, we know just who to lynch, because I seriously doubt a Insane record keeper(if that is even possible with exact role description).

Either he lies, or he doesn't. There is no sanity involved.

I suggest that Buckbeak protects Snape anyway, seeing as Snape would be a most likely target. If Dudley is confirmed, everyone will rally around Snape, seeing as he is the only confirmed townie. Plus, it could stop a nightkill. Very useful in my eyes.

Let's see what the lynch will bring, hopefully, a dead godfather.

##Unvote: Myrtle
##vote: Dudders

Myrtle has been behaving a little better, and Buckbeak I'm still not sure of. I've questioned the hippogriff some time ago and there are definite holes in his answers.

[M] Aaron
08-18-2008, 02:57 PM
Thank you. :)

But Buckbeak don't jail snape he needs to make an investigation doesn't he? And if you role block him he can't... Correct me if I'm wrong.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-18-2008, 02:58 PM
I finally read through all the pages you wrote when I was asleep ;)

I guess the biggest thing happening was of course Snapes roleclaim, so I´ll just go referring to that an make some things clear. Essentially I do believe most of his claim. DD beeing the Godfather just seems possible to me. Seeing his old posts he has always been very quick with his votes when someone seemed suspicious or was bandwagoned. Also his first post after Snapes claim was to try an make us suspicious about his role.

I am really not sure, what to think about the Pettigrew-is-the-Jester theory. He just doesn´t look like beeing obsessed with us lynching him. Like Hagger said it also occured to me while reading that Snape himself seemed to be after us lynching him to test his claim.

As for my own role.. well, Snape is right!

I guess

##vote: Big D

would be the right thing to do today to further prove Snapes evidence.

[M] Aaron
08-18-2008, 02:59 PM
Majority lynch! lets sit back and start planning for the next day.

Also people need to stop calling Dudley DD, its confusing because it sounds like your all talking about Demon Dude. xD

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-18-2008, 03:00 PM
I was also playing with the idea of Buckbeak protecting Snape. True, he cannot make an investigation tonight, but this would in addition prove, if BB´s claim was thoroughly right.

[M] Aaron
08-18-2008, 03:02 PM
It would waste what would possibly be a huge breakthrough however, I think let snape investigate Buckbeak then it proves TWO people are innocent.

WAIT... How come Snape didn't get shot if he investigated Filch?

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-18-2008, 03:13 PM
I asked myself that question too. I am not really sure if investigating counts to targetting. But how else could he have found out? He has to have targetted me somehow to find out about my role. Or am I wrong?

[M] Aaron
08-18-2008, 03:14 PM
He must have, thats mighty strange ....

[M] Elize
08-18-2008, 03:56 PM
Like I said before, a missed investigation is better than a dead proved townie and already having the mafia he investigated.

If Buckbeak really is a Jailkeeper(which I'm still not sure of) then protecting Snape is the best course of action.

We may not have the investigation, which is random and might not be helpful at all, but we wouldn't lose a proved townie.

Plus, he can just start up the investigations when the heat(so to say) is off.

I, for one, do not want to see Snape at the bottom of the pond tomorrow.

And an investigative role that learn the entire role is a great asset.

[M] Aaron
08-18-2008, 04:10 PM
But we're wondering how Snape didn't die after he investigated a paranoid gun owner, anybody targetting a paranoid gun owner should die, right?

Sorry if I'm annoying you with all my posts by the way, I do tend to post alot. :moomba:

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-18-2008, 04:20 PM
I didn't target him. My role says I randomly investigate somebody. This means that I don't actually target them specifically, although I was wondering about how I survived myself. It may have been a mistake on Harry's part, or because I don't target them, it doesn't count.

[M] Adama
08-18-2008, 04:24 PM
Sorry for the recent inactivity, but Denmark knows what's up so I won't be replaced.

As for whatever is going on right now though, It took me a while to catch up and I have to say that Snape's roleclaim is pretty big and I think if Buckbeak is the Jail Keeper, then they should protect Snape. Then we'll have two confirmed townies. If Snape is nightkilled even though he was under Buckbeak's "protection" then we can take down Buckbeak the next day for a mafia kill.

[M] Aaron
08-18-2008, 04:24 PM
Odd...

Dumbledores tactic should work.

[M] Gaius
08-18-2008, 05:04 PM
Harry. votecount, plz.

[M] Mom – Host
08-18-2008, 05:16 PM
<i>"With all these bloody wizards, no one would ever suspect me."

"Hey, what about the Muggle kid?"

"Yeah, doesn't it make sense that he'd be trying to get rid of us? Doesn't he hate wizards?"

"Yeah he does!"

"What are you talking about? I'm innocent, I swear! Investigate me and see!"

"Oh but I investigated you and saw that you were the Godfather, explain that plz."

"Um well um you must be insane."

"Well, only one way to find out, isn't there, Mr. Harry Potter sir! We must lynch the cousin of Harry Potter!"</i>

And thus they took the little house-elf's advice and did just that. And lo and behold, Dudley Dursley was the Godfather, played by Arc_Master_14! Thanks for playing!

Night 4 begins now, get night actions in ASAP, yada yada yada. You know the drill by now.

[M] Mom – Host
08-18-2008, 05:17 PM
oh and final votecount which I forgot to include in that!

Dudley Dursley (7): Luna Lovegood, Peter Pettigrew, Buckbeak, Dobby, Moaning Myrtle, Remus Lupin, Mr. Filch
Hermione Granger (1): Rubeus Hagrid
Moaning Myrtle (0): <s>Remus Lupin</s>, <s>Moaning Myrtle</s>, <s>Buckbeak</s>, <s>Dudley Dursley</s>, <s>Voldemort</s>, <s>Severus Snape</s>, <s>Peter Pettigrew</s>
Buckbeak (0): <s>Moaning Myrtle</s>

Yeah, 'twas a majority!

[M] Mom – Host
08-18-2008, 11:02 PM
<i><s>Emma</s> Hermione, you dirty whore! I hope you only infected Ron with your dirty disease. That's right, Hermione had crabs. But the crabs found on Hermione in the morning weren't the standard louse-like crabs. They'd been magically enchanted to become 100 times larger and venomous, but then die after killing Hermione. Such a waste of a good brain, too.</i>

Hermione was a Prostitute, played by Clouded Sky! Thanks fer playin!


<i>Animal cruelty? Surely, no one would commit such a terrible crime! Especially against such a fearsome animal as Buckbeak! Except Lucius Malfoy and that executioner from Prisoner of Azkaban, but they're not involved in this, so Beaky felt safe.

Someone else must have thought killing an innocent Hippogriff was a cool idea. While Beaky was sleeping, he was restrained and injected with lethal amounts of elephant tranquilizers.</i>

Buckbeak was a Jailkeeper, played by Jiro and Laddy. Thanks for playing, guys!


Day 5 starts now-ish! Play for 24 hours, you lonely 10. Takes 6 votes to lynch. :D

[M] Gaius
08-18-2008, 11:04 PM
Okay, so I now believe Severus. I seriously doubt you are scum, and now I'm back to being suspicious of Myrtle and Rubeus. Myrtle more, but I was going after Hermione next, and she's dead! Filthy whore!

[M] Gaius
08-18-2008, 11:05 PM
Severus, were you blocked last night? Did you get any info?

[M] Mom – Host
08-18-2008, 11:06 PM
It's pretty much her own fault for sleeping around so much.

Okay now I will be headed out to get some food so I don't die of hunger this week kthxbye

[M] Gaius
08-18-2008, 11:09 PM
So, how do mafia keep dying? There has to be someone either well informed or really lucky. Is there a role that is traitorsome in the mafia?

[M] Elize
08-18-2008, 11:20 PM
I've been thinking, the only way this can happen is if there are two mafia's. There are two godfathers, so it is entirely within reason. A vigilante or serial killer just can't be lucky enough to pick a mafia on every night.

And with two kills every night, I come to the conclusion that there are two mafia factions. What do you guys think?

[M] Gaius
08-18-2008, 11:22 PM
It's logical.

Maybe the mafia to town ratio is higher than we think. More mafia than townies?

[M] Elize
08-18-2008, 11:24 PM
Voldemort;2551181']It's logical.

Maybe the mafia to town ratio is higher than we think. More mafia than townies?

Impossible, if that were true the game would be over.

[M] Elize
08-18-2008, 11:26 PM
Guys, I'm going to be gone for most of the day. I have to prepare for moving out. I'll be back before the day is over to read over everything and give my vote.

Don't act too rashly while I'm away. Think first, then vote. ;)

[M] Gaius
08-18-2008, 11:26 PM
How's that? Would both mafias win?

[M] Dee
08-18-2008, 11:27 PM
Okay, there are ten of us left. Dudley did turn out to be another Godfather, so if we trust Snape, then that tells us that he, Pettigrew, and Filch aren't mafia. So we look something like this now:


[M] Albus Dumbledore
[M] Dobby
[M] Luna Lovegood
[M] Moaning Myrtle
[M] Mr. Filch
[M] Peter Pettigrew
[M] Remus Lupin
[M] Rubeus Hagrid
[M] Severus Snape
[M] Voldemort

I'm still voting Myrtle. Like I said yesterday, I'm pretty sure they're both scum. I think she knew Dudley was the Godfather, even before Snape came in. How could she have possibly known that without being in the Mafia herself?

And shame on you all for ending the day early!

Preview edit:

Remus: If we have two mafias and the mafia outweighed the town, then the town would probably stay alive to be used as pawns by the mafia factions. The game will probably go on until one faction gains majority.

[M] Elize
08-18-2008, 11:34 PM
You're right, Luna. With two factions the game wouldn't end, I suppose.

But two factions seems a fact to me. With a prostitute and a mafia cop, you just can't have one faction.

One other thing before I leave, Dumbledore. He posted on day 1, then disappeared only coming in once or twice, leaving a post that makes no contribution.

Even Filch and Pettigrew were more involved than this. I don't like it this late in the game for someone to be inactive. He says he has reasons, well if it's a good one, shouldn't he get a replacement?

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
08-18-2008, 11:53 PM
Now with Hermione gone I have no real suspicions left. It'd be nice for some of the more inactive people to post more. Maybe we should lynch them to get them out of the game? :p

I don't really think Myrtle is scum. I mean, she did really encourage us to go after Dudley. Though I guess if there are two mafias, she could be in the other one. I suppose we have more to go on her than anyone else at this point, so I really can't argue against voting for her to strongly.

[M] Gaius
08-18-2008, 11:57 PM
Rubeus Hagrid;2551216']Now with Hermione gone I have no real suspicions left. It'd be nice for some of the more inactive people to post more. Maybe we should lynch them to get them out of the game? :p

I'm against killing someone simply because they're inactive. Our past lynch was speed-majority technically (but just shy of 24 hrs). What if they're town and they're just simply inactive? I don't want to take that chance. Nights have been occuring just fine, so either they have no night actions, or they're laying low on purpose.

I hate this game. It makes me contradict myself. :mad:

[M] Adama
08-19-2008, 12:31 AM
Remus Lupin;2551197']You're right, Luna. With two factions the game wouldn't end, I suppose.

But two factions seems a fact to me. With a prostitute and a mafia cop, you just can't have one faction.

One other thing before I leave, Dumbledore. He posted on day 1, then disappeared only coming in once or twice, leaving a post that makes no contribution.

Even Filch and Pettigrew were more involved than this. I don't like it this late in the game for someone to be inactive. He says he has reasons, well if it's a good one, shouldn't he get a replacement?

What else did you want me to say? I explained the inactivity and I think that's pretty much what mattered most, unless you wanted me to instantaneously become suspicious of someone just to 'make a contribution.'

[M] Dee
08-19-2008, 12:53 AM
I explained the inactivity

You didn't really...you just said something like "Sorry for the recent inactivity, but Denmark knows what's up so I won't be replaced."

Typically the host would confirm something like that, but if you lied they wouldn't say anything because exposing a lie like that would influence the game too much.

Could you elaborate just a little at least?

[M] Mom – Host
08-19-2008, 01:13 AM
Oh yeah, Albus did talk to me about it. He was away for at least one day.

[M] Dee
08-19-2008, 01:16 AM
Problem solved, then xD

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
08-19-2008, 03:41 AM
I don't get it, I'm really not a Jester, unless I got the wrong PM. Well at least we got a mafia.

[M] Gaius
08-19-2008, 03:50 AM
Peter Pettigrew;2551352']I don't get it, I'm really not a Jester, unless I got the wrong PM. Well at least we got a mafia.

Said the man playing Jester, hoping to be lynched. ;)

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
08-19-2008, 04:02 AM
Before we do much of anything today, I think we need to hear from Snape and his investigation results for last night.

[M] Gaius
08-19-2008, 04:16 AM
So is it just coincidince the Severus seems to have gone AWOL (and that the thread seems dead)?

[M] Felix
08-19-2008, 06:01 AM
I'm not entirely certain what to do now... I don't really have any suspicions at the moment... Myrtle was annoying, yes, but that doesn't necessarily mean she is Mafia... I'm not sure what to think of the long silence, either... sadly, I have to go for the night... hopefully some new evidence will present itself soon...

[M] Mom – Host
08-19-2008, 06:03 AM
I'm hoping someone will vote so I can do a votecount!

17 hours remaining!

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
08-19-2008, 06:13 AM
Well this slowed down fast. I need to go to sleep soon, but tomorrow I'm going to look back through stuff to see what I can dig up to keep discussion going.

[M] Adama
08-19-2008, 08:26 AM
##Vote: Voldemort

[M] Aaron
08-19-2008, 12:28 PM
Guys, Voldemort was on Dudleys side all the way through.

##Vote: Voldemort

P.S WTF? I'm Mafia Usurper now? I thought we proved I was innocent after the Dudley vote?

[M] Aaron
08-19-2008, 12:33 PM
Pettigrew is playing like Vivi from mafia VI - A bad Jester, ignore him and he will lose at the end.

I'd also like to point out that I'm almost certain Hagrid is innocent, I also suspect he was a pro-town role, Hagrid you may as well roleclaim, it could be useful. :)

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-19-2008, 01:30 PM
Sorry Guys. I was roleblocked last night, so I have no investigation results. Not sure who Roleblocked me, it could be Buckbeak or it could have been a Mafia roleblocker. Personally, I think Buckbeak blocked me and so the Mafia went after him. Unless there is another Doctor, they'll probably go for me tonight.

[M] Aaron
08-19-2008, 01:57 PM
Voldemort;2550523']I'm suddenly feeling the urge to kill Buckbeak.

While I think Dudley is rather suspicious, my suspicions have now been replaced with a Buckbeak/Severus possible mafia affiliation?

Hmm, he holds off a Dudley vote, and instead tries to turn the attention to Buckbeak and Snape, despite them both claiming power roles.
Yet he is only slightly suspicious of Dudley? Eeven with all the evidence that was against him?

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-19-2008, 02:18 PM
Mh, I don´t really know whom to go after either. With Hermione gone there is no one for me to be most suspicious of :(

[M] Aaron
08-19-2008, 02:29 PM
Another point!

I revoke my non-suspicion of Hagrid, he was the only one to not vote for Dudley, instead he was preaching about how guilty Hermione was, then Hermione died that night and he's acting like he knew all along and should be trusted as a townie.
I think its likely he was on Dudleys side all along, and knew Hermione was mafia some how.

Any thoughts on this?

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-19-2008, 03:29 PM
I don´t think this is likely. He really said, that he was suspicious of Hermione before it was revealed, that she was scum.
Although this could of course have been because he knew it and he only mentioned it after my first post as Filch where I claimed the same.

[M] Aaron
08-19-2008, 04:16 PM
Most suspicious:
Hagrid
Voldemort

Quite suspicious:
Dumbledore
Remus Lupin

Slightly Suspicious:
Dobby
Luna Lovegood

Not suspicious:
Filch
Snape
Pettigrew

Just my opinion anyway, I only compiled this out of boredom, anyone agree with my list?

P.S Remember Pettigrew is Jester and will lose if we don't lynch him, so he really isn't a problem.

[M] Gaius
08-19-2008, 05:54 PM
You can't vote for me, I'm the other mason!

[M] Aaron
08-19-2008, 05:56 PM
Voldy, Yellow is for pro-town killing roles, and there is no evidence you are a mason, that just solidifies my vote to be honest.

[M] Mom – Host
08-19-2008, 05:57 PM
Voldemort (2): Albus Dumbledore, Moaning Myrtle

Seriously guys? 2 votes in 19 hours? D:

[M] Aaron
08-19-2008, 05:57 PM
This thread is so dead it hurts me. :(

[M] Gaius
08-19-2008, 05:58 PM
I am color-blind so I can't tell the difference between yellow and green. :(

But of course there's no proof, because I'm the only one left! You guys killed Tonks!

[M] Aaron
08-19-2008, 05:59 PM
What about Dobby, (possibly) Hagrid, Dumbledore etc.
There isn't any evidence your a Mason, sorry Voldemort you better come up with something good.

P.S colour blind doesn't work, the colour names are next to the colours, there was no excuse for the yellow tag.

[M] Mom – Host
08-19-2008, 06:00 PM
This thread is deader than you Myrtle. :(

[M] Gaius
08-19-2008, 06:01 PM
How I am going to come up with something better than my role?

And yes I am color-blind so don't even start with that. I can't tell the difference between the two when you guys type, so I just assumed they were both yellow.

[M] Aaron
08-19-2008, 06:01 PM
I'm the only one keeping it alive, all the active guys died early on.

[M] Aaron
08-19-2008, 06:03 PM
[QUOTE='[M] Voldemort;2551588']How I am going to come up with something better than my role?

QUOTE]

So you have no evidence?
Sorry Voldy, your times up and if you are a Mason then I can't be blamed, there is no reason for me to believe you. :(

[M] Gaius
08-19-2008, 06:04 PM
Yes, there is no evidence because you killed my partner.

But I'm not about to start lying and roleclaimwtf'ing like you have been. :mad2:

I've been suspicious of you Dumbledore and Hagrid for quite a while, and I see no real reason to not vote for one of you.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
08-19-2008, 06:05 PM
Sorry, I've been busy and at work. I was hoping to post what I have to say this morning, but was unable. Here we go:

Ok, guys, this may come as a surprise for some of you, but this is what we really need to do this day: lynch Snape.

Hear me out first before you argue with me: this really, really works out perfectly for Snape if he's mafia. Let's take a look at his claim. If he's mafia, let's see how well this works out for him:

With the number of mafia and Godfathers, it's safe to assume there are two different mafias. Let's say Snape finds out who the other Godfather is (perhaps he's on the same mafia team as Ron). How to eliminate him and save his own skin, and maybe a buddy or two of his, at the same time? This roleclaim does that perfectly.

For one, he gives the name of a mafia Godfather, who we would obviously want to lynch to test Snape's claim over Snape himself. Go back and see how often Snape urged us to lynch Snape himself instead in order to confirm his claim, which we obviously weren't going to do. Overracting much? Then once we see Dudley was a Godfather, if we thought Snape was legit we wouldn't want to lynch him. So that could save himself in the process.

But look at his other "investigation" claims. Mr. Filch he claimed is a paranoid gun owner, who investigating roles wouldn't want to target anyway because he would kill in response (and we wouldn't want to lynch because he's pro-town), and Peter he says is a Jester, who we wouldn't want to lynch to test the claim either (and would obviously deny being the Jester even if it was true). Peter's been a pretty lame Jester, don't you think? And Snape's explanation for why his investigation of Filch didn't kill him is pretty questionable, at best.

And now he said he was roleblocked so he can avoid incriminating himself. Well, he has to, because he has no convenient roles left he can use, and he's probably run out of mafia buddies to protect anyway.

My suspicion is that Snape, and possibly Filch and/or Peter are mafia. I say we actually take Snape up on his offer today.

##Vote: Snape

[M] Gaius
08-19-2008, 06:06 PM
That would make sense for him to call Pettigrew Jester so that we wouldn't lynch him. And I have been suspicious of Peter as well.

Whom haven't I been suspicious of? :p

[M] Aaron
08-19-2008, 06:07 PM
Voldemort I stopped roleclaiming ages ago, I have been nothing but serious since Neville claimed cop, I apologised for the stupidity and that is past us now.

Voldemort its to late to accept a claim like that, you were odd beforehand, and now I think its time we lynched you and found out your true role.

[M] Gaius
08-19-2008, 06:07 PM
But, Hagrid, what if you're mafia and want us to kill Snape?

[M] Aaron
08-19-2008, 06:07 PM
Hagrid we'll lynch Snape if Voldemort flips town.

[M] Aaron
08-19-2008, 06:09 PM
Hagrid, sure your not taking attention off your mafia buddy - Voldemort?

[M] Aaron
08-19-2008, 06:15 PM
Crap, sorry Voldemort I really am, I just read the beginning and you and Tonks are totally Tandem.
Forgive me? sorry I rushed to conclusion, your officially off my suspect list.

As for you Hagrid, I don't know if I should believe you or not...

##Unvote: Voldemort

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-19-2008, 06:15 PM
Hagrid: Fine, lynch me. Then when I flip Town, the suspicion will pile onto you. Also, Filch can be targeted during the day and Pettigrew can be targeted during the Night.

Myrtle: So if Voldy flips Town, you'll go after me, even though I haven't said anything against Voldy? That sounds Stupid.

[M] Gaius
08-19-2008, 06:16 PM
Thanks Myrtle. :)

I was hoping that someone else would claim mason, that way I could scream "ZOMG NO LIAR!!1"

[M] Aaron
08-19-2008, 06:17 PM
Read my post Snape, I retracted my vote for Voldy after I read the beginning of the thread and decided Voldemort was telling the truth.
I'm in the right mind to lynch Hagrid though, I don't know why he said those things, but strangely enough I DO kinda believe them slightly..

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-19-2008, 06:19 PM
Look at our post times Myrtle, they're identical. We posted seconds apart.

[M] Gaius
08-19-2008, 06:19 PM
I actually do think Snape was roleblocked. That was why Beakbeak was murdered instead. :(

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-19-2008, 06:20 PM
^ Just about to get round to that, Voldy. Mafia knew Beaky was gonna protect me because everyone was like "'Kay, Beaky, protect Snape." So it was pretty obvious.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-19-2008, 06:21 PM
And Beaky's role includes a roleblock.

[M] Aaron
08-19-2008, 06:22 PM
I'm torn, honestly.

Snape: Could all be a bluff, but do we take that risk?

Hagrid: Seems to want rid of Snape, is he over obvious scum? Or a very clever townie?

Dobby: Where is he? I feel inclined to vote him him...

[M] Elize
08-19-2008, 06:28 PM
Hi, I'm back guys.

You're right, Hagrid. I've been thinking about this since I mentioned that there are two mafia's. Snape calling out on two unlynchable roles seemed awfully suspisious.

The thing that did it for me is the fact that Peter does not behave like a Jester at all, more like the opposite.

And if we don't know for certain if Snape is the record keeper, he could have a problem. If we rule out 3 players that could be mafia, and start killing off townies instead, we could risk losing all together in a day or two.

I for one, do not want to take that risk.

##vote: Snivellus

Oh and Myrtle, I noticed something.


Hagrid we'll lynch Snape if Voldemort flips town.

Explain, please.

And Dumbledore, please don't vote without reason.