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Necron
10-27-2008, 11:04 PM
Anyone else a fan?

LunarWeaver
10-27-2008, 11:10 PM
I like either when they're good and dislike either when they're bad.

Ryth
10-28-2008, 12:44 AM
I like either when they're good and dislike either when they're bad.

Profound statement, really. xD


I prefer Asian horror overall, thought both have a great number of stinkers (Ju-On... Tomie...)

Necron
10-28-2008, 10:13 AM
I recently watched the American remake of One Missed Call, and it was terrible. There is absolutely no suspense in the film at all. I don't know, i just don't think anyone else can get the grasp of horror anymore, other than Asian horror. Newer, American (and british) films, rely way too much on gore rather than suspense.

erikramza
10-28-2008, 11:06 AM
John Carpenter is good, not so much these days. The Thing was amazing and is probably my fav horror movie. Although The Descent isn't far off.

*ETERNAL FANTASY*
10-28-2008, 11:26 AM
I prefer Asian Horror!

The less is more is definatley put to good use in Asian horror films!

Obviously its not always perfect, there are clunkers out there thanks to the remakes lol!

Marshall Banana
10-28-2008, 01:45 PM
Dead Japanese girls with long black hair scare the crap out of me! =O

Madame Adequate
10-28-2008, 01:58 PM
John Carpenter is good, not so much these days. The Thing was amazing and is probably my fav horror movie. Although The Descent isn't far off.

The Thing is some serious <img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" />, man. I love it more than words can say. It's just pretty much horror perfection, doesn't get much better.

The original Alien is great as well.

I have had the crap scared out of me by some Asian ones though, more than anything Western. On the other hand Western movies occasionally differ from one another in some manner, so once you see one you've not necessarily seen them all.

Peegee
10-28-2008, 03:11 PM
"Ring" gave me a sense of dread. But "In the mouth of madness" made me scared to see a painting (the one that moved) because it was that creepy.

So in theory both can excel at causing me fear. It tends not to, so I don't have a preference for the genre as much as I a fan of specific films.

Dreddz
10-28-2008, 03:27 PM
I think for consistent quality Asian horror beats American horror. In my opinion American horror has some of the highest highs and the lowest lows. These highs include The Shining, Dawn of the Dead (1978 version), Blair Witch and The Thing. So I prefer American horror overall.

Audition is a terrific Asian horror movie though. One of the best. There is also an independent movie called Tetsuo the Iron Man which must be one of the most unintentionally terrifying things I've ever witnessed.

Moon Rabbits
10-28-2008, 09:45 PM
I recently watched the American remake of One Missed Call, and it was terrible. There is absolutely no suspense in the film at all. I don't know, i just don't think anyone else can get the grasp of horror anymore, other than Asian horror. Newer, American (and british) films, rely way too much on gore rather than suspense.

Well, Chakushin Ari was a stupid concept to begin with, so what do you expect from a remake? The only portion of that movie that managed to scare me was when the little girl's mother was all zombie like and walking towards the camera and her skin was all falling off and <img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" />. Damn that was scary.

I also like to make a distinction between true horror films and gore porn. Real horror movies actually build atmosphere and some sort of sense of dread, rather than pushing everything right up front (at least in my opinion). Ero-guro films (Hostel, for example) aim to depict violence in a glamorized manner (often sexualizing it) and I think can often be lumped into a genre of their own (distinct from classic horror).

And being American / British / Asian has nothing to do with it. Japan has a loooooooooooong long list of ero-guro films that put anything on the American market to shame (Guinea Pig series :barf:). Although I prefer 'classic' horror, I think ero-guro has it's own merits when it's done properly (Strange Circus by Shion Sono is a good example).


I think for consistent quality Asian horror beats American horror. In my opinion American horror has some of the highest highs and the lowest lows. These highs include The Shining, Dawn of the Dead (1978 version), Blair Witch and The Thing. So I prefer American horror overall.

Audition is a terrific Asian horror movie though. One of the best. There is also an independent movie called Tetsuo the Iron Man which must be one of the most unintentionally terrifying things I've ever witnessed.

Blair Witch Project is fucking maaaaaad scary, yo. I don't really dig the Shining or Dawn of the Dead (in fact, I like the recent remake better), and I've never seen the Thing. However, Tetsuo the Iron Man is fucking SCARY <img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" />. And Audition ... that movie changed my perspective on film altogether. That is one fucked. up. movie.

In all, I think Japanese horror and American horror are fundamentally different - Japanese movies are often more "abstract" in their subject matter (when they aren't rehashing the stark white little girl with long black hair over her face plot) while American horror films usually are easier to follow and have a more traditional antagonist (monsters, zombies, what have you). I like both.

My favorite Japanese films of all time are horror films. Audition tops the my list of all time best horror, followed closely by Suicide Club / Noriko's Dinner Table (which aren't really horror per se, but they're damn scary).

the AJman
10-28-2008, 11:22 PM
Both have their share of absolute crap that I believe should have never been made and their share of gems that are a god given gift to the horror genre.

Personally I typically gravitate to american horror, simply because I like more movies from that category, but I don't believe that its superior in anyway. The Excorcit (I'm sure thats spelt wrong), is still my all time favorite horror movie and one of my favorite movies period. Werewolf movies still scare the <img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /> out of me and re-enforce my fear of being out in the woods at night, and Jaws is still a classic along with the Alien movies and of course many more, I however don't really care for movies like hostel, nor do I care for teen slasher flicks.

Dispite the fact that I typically like american horror movies more I have to admit that the american horror genre has been in the toilet in the last five to ten years. Whats with all these damn remakes, Dawn of the Dead, Halloween, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Hills have Eyes, and now I just found out today that they are remaking Friday the 13th. Obviously theirs a lack of creativity in hollywood right now regarding horror movies.

Moon Rabbits
10-28-2008, 11:42 PM
Dispite the fact that I typically like american horror movies more I have to admit that the american horror genre has been in the toilet in the last five to ten years. Whats with all these damn remakes, Dawn of the Dead, Halloween, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Hills have Eyes, and now I just found out today that they are remaking Friday the 13th. Obviously theirs a lack of *creativity in hollywood right now regarding horror movies.

*lack of studios willing to invest money in new or innovative franchises in a genre that mainly appeals to fickle teenage audiences.

Wolf Kanno
10-29-2008, 05:48 AM
Obviously theirs a lack of creativity in hollywood right now regarding horror movies.

Horror? I would say movies period but that's a topic for another day.:p

I generally like Asian better, mostly cause I prefer real supernatural horror over monsters, aliens, psycho's with a knife and what not. Though I do make exceptions for good psychological thrillers. American film wise, I like The Shining, In the Mouth of Madness, The Thing (80's remake), Psycho and The Exorcist.

I generally prefer horror that is less "jump out and scare you" and more just haunting and disturbing which is why I do enjoy horror games like Silent Hill and Fatal Frame over nonsense like Resident Evil and The Suffering.

I just prefer horror that is less tangible and unknown. Zombies? Shotgun to the face makes it better and even the thought of being swarmed by them doesn't really unnerve me that much. A spirit on the other hand can't be shot or blown up or at least it won't have the effect you were looking for. Madness is also scary cause there is a real sense of reality in it. Even if you took the ghost element out of The Shining, it was still plausible for Jack's character to go insane. He was written in a way where he could have snapped on his own.