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[M] Jeff - Single Dad
12-17-2008, 10:09 PM
I think Mom jumped on inactives because someone had to do something.

You can threaten them with mod killing and replacements and all the rest of it but it's not much of a threat, really, is it?

Besides, with so many of you eager to rush to the defence of the poor little inactives, like they're starving orphans or something, it'd make perfect sense for a mafia to hide as one.

Maybe Morbo's a mafia. Maybe he isn't. I bet one of our inactives is!

[M] Dave – Stepdad
12-17-2008, 10:09 PM
Oh and what is that about now?

##vote: Mom

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
12-17-2008, 10:10 PM
Mom:


I'm a replacement how do you do. Why are you voting for me? What is your reasoning?

[M] Dave – Stepdad
12-17-2008, 10:11 PM
Mom;2610400']
Maybe Morbo's a mafia. Maybe he isn't. I bet one of our inactives is!

That may of course be true, but why not vote on someone more active but maybe also more suspicious today and see how Morbo behaves and find out if he ist scum or not?

[M] Anise
12-17-2008, 10:12 PM
Mom;2610400']I think Mom jumped on inactives because someone had to do something.

You can threaten them with mod killing and replacements and all the rest of it but it's not much of a threat, really, is it?


Because Calculon was totally inactive on day 1 and 2 XP

[M] Eizen
12-17-2008, 10:14 PM
Mom;2610400']Besides, with so many of you eager to rush to the defence of the poor little inactives, like they're starving orphans or something, it'd make perfect sense for a mafia to hide as one.


Or maybe they playing like the mafia in WWIII mafia.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
12-17-2008, 10:16 PM
Amy;2610403']
Mom;2610400']
Maybe Morbo's a mafia. Maybe he isn't. I bet one of our inactives is!

That may of course be true, but why not vote on someone more active but maybe also more suspicious today and see how Morbo behaves and find out if he ist scum or not?Yeah, I guess Mom could have sat back and waited. But if you sit back and wait forever, you're going to get taken down. Look at what sitting back and waiting brought so far: 4 dead town.


Hypnotoad;2610404']
Mom;2610400']I think Mom jumped on inactives because someone had to do something.

You can threaten them with mod killing and replacements and all the rest of it but it's not much of a threat, really, is it?


Because Calculon was totally inactive on day 1 and 2 XPPrecisely! Mom learned from her mistakes and moved onto inactives instead. It's a logical progression.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
12-17-2008, 10:21 PM
Hey an unvote right about now would be pretty hot. Come on, give me a chance!

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
12-17-2008, 10:37 PM
Okay hey if you guys really want me dead that's cool. We can still be buds at the end of it.

But I'm not going down quietly. Oh no. I'm going to go on the offensive if nobody wishes to take me on the defensive! When you see I'm town town town team town (joke, see below) you can come back to my posts and go "oh boy!". Okay? Ready...go!
Leela;2610347']Ok now you can refute but I really have to go. Go team town! If I have a chance to get on when I get home I will. But if not, see you tomorrow town... hopefully. D:Town town town town town! Who are you trying to convince? :rolleyes2 Subtle little signs like these, folks.

Predecessor is right; Until today, Bender had contributed precisely 0 while still making a lot of jokey posts to get his head out there. It's suspicious. Can Bender explain this?

Morbo, morbo, morbo. My vote is apparently on you. Huh. May as well keep it for now. :|

You know, it is a bit odd the way Bender rallied to your defence. And today Leela agreed with your points to Mom in a post I can make neither head nor tail of. I think either you are mafia and they are silly mafia rushing to your defence, or maybe you are town and they are mafia latching on to you. Who knows. Also rallying on the three easiest targets (blob, mom, santa) leaving you open to vote for whichever one the town falls against on that day, citing your earlier argument.

Blob blob blobbity blob. Not my favourite person after saying their vote for me was justified when I came into the game! Talked about multiple killing factions or something. Meh. Mafia trying to seem useful or townie trying to seem useful? Inconclusive!

[M] Elize
12-17-2008, 10:42 PM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


Mom, what?

You posted weird <img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" />, how the hell would I know if you were a replacement?

Look's like you're playing the Rob Mariano card. In Survivor, before he got voted off, he stirred crap up so he could maybe stay in the game. He was voted off even more surely.

So, why the sudden stir the pot and try to rearrange our game plan? Meh, my vote stands surely.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
12-17-2008, 10:47 PM
Mom:



Anyway, hi! I'm what you might refer to as a replacement.:D


And yeah sorry for the weird crap that was just me having some fun before the big game. And that's ok, we can chalk it down to you not wanting to read my big long post. I wouldn't want to read it either!

Yeah, I want to stay in the game. Absolutely I do. Stirring up crap though? No. No no no. I am trying to right a wrong, here. Anyone has a problem with mom's actions, let's talk them through. I'm here. I'm not going anywhere.

Take this opportunity. You can still vote for me if you really must at the end of it, but if you don't at least try to let me justify things (I can't claim to wholly know the mindset of the predecessor) then you'll regret it.

[M] Elize
12-17-2008, 10:49 PM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


Alright, why the strategy bombardment. You look pretty smart, so why the sudden shift? Where you in this game before or are you simply observant?

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
12-17-2008, 10:52 PM
Mom:


I have been observing this game, so I know of the ins and outs. I know that what the town has done so far has not worked.

I am bombarding you because I have very little time left, as far as I am concerned - 6 (?) votes or something like that means I am on the brink. I may as well contribute somehow before I die, right?

[M] Elize
12-17-2008, 10:53 PM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


Mom, are you really a replacement?

Or were you playing the Noob card?

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
12-17-2008, 10:55 PM
Mom:


I'm a replacement and I am not a newbie in the slightest. I am very experienced.

[M] Mom – Host
12-17-2008, 10:57 PM
Donbot:



Mom;2610426']I am very experienced.

*resists dirty joke*

[M] Elize
12-17-2008, 10:59 PM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


Sorry. I don't believe you. This is why...

You were replaced very quickly, for starters. I am aware we are very low on replacements. So if we have little to no replacements, why so sudden?

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
12-17-2008, 11:02 PM
Mom:


I don't know how many replacements there are. I signed up to be a replacement earlier today and was online when the person who originally played quit so I got the account.

Anything else?

[M] Elize
12-17-2008, 11:05 PM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


Last question, was my Survivor recap detailed enough or should I be more detailed into emotional elements?

[M] Eizen
12-17-2008, 11:06 PM
Mom;2610416']

Predecessor is right; Until today, Bender had contributed precisely 0 while still making a lot of jokey posts to get his head out there. It's suspicious. Can Bender explain this?

I had nothing to say before today.



You know, it is a bit odd the way Bender rallied to your defence.

I've said it once, and I'll say it again-I'm NOT defending him. I just don't like the reason for the vote against him.

[M] Elize
12-17-2008, 11:08 PM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


Holy Smurf! Bender, you scared me! Where did you come from?

[M] Mom – Host
12-17-2008, 11:09 PM
Donbot:


Hahaha you actually typed out Smurf xD

[M] Eizen
12-17-2008, 11:13 PM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob;2610437']Holy Smurf! Bender, you scared me! Where did you come from?

What? There was only a 52 minute gap between that and my previous post.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
12-17-2008, 11:15 PM
Mom:



Horrible Gelatinous Blob;2610431']Last question, was my Survivor recap detailed enough or should I be more detailed into emotional elements?Some new guy comes in and wants to stay and does some jumping about to try to get them to let him stay. Yeah. I get it. I haven't done anything negative since coming in though, have I? I've answered all questions about me, and put forward some of my own ideas. I want to help and I want to contribute. Give me a chance, don't write me off as that guy on Survivor. I'm not him!

Bender;2610435']
I had nothing to say before today.No voting either? Well that won't help anyone. An extra vote from a townsperson means we're more likely to strike red gold rather than green...oh I can't continue this metal metaphor. :p




You know, it is a bit odd the way Bender rallied to your defence.

I've said it once, and I'll say it again-I'm NOT defending him. I just don't like the reason for the vote against him.Okay, fair dues. You're not defending him.

However, let me just talk about the next bit of your post. The reasoning wasn't fantastic, no. Bear with me for this one though. On Day 1 and Day 2, people voted off town, right? We know they are town. We do not know if Morbo is town or not. Thus, we can logically conclude that a vote for a confirmed town has worse reasoning than a vote for an unknown town, yes? Thus perhaps there are other people more worthy of a vote!

[M] Elize
12-17-2008, 11:20 PM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


Wow, Mom caught my Survivor reference to himself!

How smart! For that, suspicion is pretty much clear. But my vote stays to save myself. Nothing personal. Oh, and your hair looks like a pair of boobs, Mom.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
12-17-2008, 11:24 PM
Mom:


I can understand wanting to save yourself. But if you don't find me suspicious, who do you find suspicious? Who would you have voted for if you weren't in trouble yourself?

We could take a look at them together if you like.

PS: at least I have hair. :tongue:

[M] Elize
12-17-2008, 11:35 PM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


Bender's somewhat suspicious to me, he comes and goes like the wind, posting stuff when he's only mentioned.

I find Amy to be suspicous as well. For reasons above except less active and more spontaneous.

[M] Eizen
12-17-2008, 11:37 PM
Mom;2610442']However, let me just talk about the next bit of your post. The reasoning wasn't fantastic, no. Bear with me for this one though. On Day 1 and Day 2, people voted off town, right? We know they are town. We do not know if Morbo is town or not. Thus, we can logically conclude that a vote for a confirmed town has worse reasoning than a vote for an unknown town, yes? Thus perhaps there are other people more worthy of a vote!

Yes, but we also don't know if you are town.

[M] Elize
12-17-2008, 11:38 PM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


Gotta go Be back in a few hours.

[M] Eizen
12-17-2008, 11:39 PM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob;2610451']Bender's somewhat suspicious to me, he comes and goes like the wind, posting stuff when he's only mentioned.

I'm much better at answering questions.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
12-17-2008, 11:40 PM
Mom:


I already looked at Bender. I'll take a peek at Amy in just a sec then.
Bender;2610453']
Yes, but we also don't know if you are town.I know. Now is the time to make up your mind though. I know you've decided I am with your vote, but that's not set in stone. Reconsider. I will help you with anything you need to decide as best I can. If you still want to condemn me, alright, as long as you've looked at the issue again and used me.

In fact, this goes for all of you who voted for me. Who else do you find suspicious? Even if I was mafia, there are probably 2-4 others. You can't just say "Mom. Done for the day." and give them a free pass.

I'm not trying to deflect attention from myself either, though. I would appreciate it if you asked questions and made cases against me, and give my answers a chance, don't just write me off as wrong.

You can guarantee that someone out there will be enjoying the spotlight being on me though. Let's turn it on them too.

[M] Joe - Army Dad
12-17-2008, 11:43 PM
Inactive voting an inactive!

##Vote: Amy

[M] Mom – Host
12-17-2008, 11:45 PM
Donbot:


Oops, sry guys, day is supposed to end at 6:22, in about half an hour.

I'll throw on an extra half hour for everyone to see it.

So in an hour the day ends.

Votecount in 20 sec.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
12-17-2008, 11:48 PM
Mom:


Okay, I looked at Amy. Not much to look at, but I looked.

Yeah she's been inactive. I've already talked about inactives, but as a refresher, people just say "BOO INACTIVES :irked:" then let them go. Hell, some of you have even been defending them. It's logical that a mafia would attempt to disguise themselves as one. (whether it was logical for Mom to vote Morbo above others is questionable though, yes)

Do I think Amy is that inactive? No. Her vote for me absolutely stinks. She's just like "what. *VOTE* bye." Let's assume she is a mafia who has been faking inactivity. She'd know how I'd flip. It's an extremely reckless move for a scum who has supposedly been playing a very careful game until now.

I just can't see it.

[M] Mom – Host
12-17-2008, 11:48 PM
Donbot:


Votecount

[M] Leela (1) - [M] Hypnotoad
[M] Morbo (1) - [M] Mom
[M] Mom (5) - [M] Bender, [M] Tinny Tim, [M] Nibbler, [M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob, [M] Amy
[M] Robot Santa (2) - [M] Morbo, [M] Leela
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Lrrr, [M] Zoidberg
[M] Amy (1) - [M] Zapp Brannigan

Day ends in a little less than 64 minutes.

Not voted once in three days: [M] Robot Devil, [M] Amy, [M] Hermes(replaced), [M] Lrrr, [M] Morbo, [M] Nibbler(replaced), [M] Tinny Tim, [M] Zapp Brannigan, [M] Zoidberg

Don't worry, I have a replacement lined up for [M] Robot devil

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
12-17-2008, 11:52 PM
Mom:


##unvote
##vote: Robot Santa

If you unvote me and vote for Robot Santa, Blob, it's a tie ;)

Just think about that.

[M] Eizen
12-17-2008, 11:52 PM
I'm going to something very left-field, and

##UnVote:Mum
##Vote:Zapp

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
12-17-2008, 11:54 PM
Mom:


For the record, I don't think Santa is bad and have done this out of personal necessity. Sorry.

[M] Mom – Host
12-17-2008, 11:54 PM
Donbot:


Votecount

[M] Leela (1) - [M] Hypnotoad
[M] Morbo (0) - [M] Mom
[M] Mom (4) - [M] Tinny Tim, [M] Nibbler, [M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob, [M] Amy, [M] Bender
[M] Robot Santa (3) - [M] Morbo, [M] Leela. [M] Mom
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Lrrr, [M] Zoidberg
[M] Amy (1) - [M] Zapp Brannigan
[M] Zapp Brannigan (1) - [M] Bender

Day ends in a little less than 53 minutes.

[M] Eizen
12-18-2008, 12:00 AM
Hey, what about my UnVote:mad2:

[M] Mom – Host
12-18-2008, 12:02 AM
Donbot:


Calm down sasquash. I was getting to it.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
12-18-2008, 12:10 AM
I was expecting something like this. I'm pretty sure Mom is town too, so this will be a wrong lynch either way. I just hope the town has a cop or something that can help the town get back into the game.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
12-18-2008, 12:11 AM
Mom:


Please nobody go after Blob and Santa tomorrow. That would be making the same mistake again. The easy option is not always the right one.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
12-18-2008, 12:14 AM
You're not dead yet Mom, somebody might swoop in and save the day.

[M] Mom – Host
12-18-2008, 12:14 AM
Donbot:


40 min left.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
12-18-2008, 12:16 AM
Way to stick the feeling of impending doom in there, Donbot! :p

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
12-18-2008, 12:20 AM
Robot Santa;2610480']You're not dead yet Mom, somebody might swoop in and save the day.

Da Dada Daaaaa!!!!

... I got nothing...:p

I have nothing more to really add I guess. There's not much to say. I dont like to do that though, but oh well...

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
12-18-2008, 12:24 AM
Mom, you say you're experienced? I hope you're not lying.
##Vote: Robot Santa
If you're experienced, you'll be of greater help to the town then I will be. Good luck and godspeed

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
12-18-2008, 12:27 AM
Mom:


Okay with an hour left before I possibly die, I am going to make a big long post.

Read this badboy after I die. It'll give you something to do during the night! And when you read it, you will know I am town and that I have no agenda here but to help you.

Firstly, you can't all sit back and show up every now and then to go "HI ^_^ *VOET*" then disappear. You'll lose, and it'll be your fault.
Somebody needs to be me. Get out there and launch furious assaults against who you believe to be mafia. Don't go for the OBVIOUS answer either. You tried that and look where it's got you. Think outside the box.

Stop with this "DEFEND INACTIVES" :skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull:. No. Get out.
Finally, you will see people trying to play this off. "Hurr Psy (hi that's me) isn't as smart as he thinks he is don't listen to him" or maybe "He's smart but he is often wrong!" No. smurf you again. This is not about my intelligence. This is about logic. You can try to ad hominem on me all you want. Hopefully now people have their eyes open to your :skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull:. ;)

And with that out of the way, let's begin.

Tomorrow, kick the ever loving crap out of Leela and Morbo. They will try to dodge it and wriggle out of it. No. Do not let them.
Bender and Hypnotoad are also possibles; but they are also the easy options I think. We're not going for easy. We're going for hard.

MORBO -


Morbo;2610042']I'm sorry I've been out of the game. I thought this was going to be a slow week and it ended up being super busy. ;; I'll have more time tomorrow (real day not game day) to read up and post some thoughts.

But I've read all the flavors and their quite funny! I'm so sad that Calculon died, he was one of my fav chars from the show, and also a doc too man that sucks.
After reading the thread, my vote is between Blob, Mom, and Robot Santa.
Horrible Blob - Blob was the most active in day 1 and pretty active in day 2, however that alone should not be enough for scum because we need to promote activity. Day 1 I think he was just trying to stir up activity which points to not scum, but day 2 he started to spread that rumor of multiple killers even though we have had no evidence of it. Spreading misinformation is very mafiaish. Calculon voted for Blob and Calculon ended up being a confirmed docotor. Not saying calculon knows the truth but we can be sure a confirmned town's opinions are genuine. I want to give Blob the benefit of the doubt for his earlier activity though. If he stays active he will probably slip up if he is mafia anyway.
Mom - Mom's posts from the earlier time doesn't make any sense. Then she was told to post better and she makes a little more sense now. When I read her posts I thought she was either a naieve new player or a cunning mafia trying to fool us. But she could just as well be a naieve mafia. In her eyes I would make a very safe vote for her if she was mafia due to my inactivity. Then she tries to connect me and Bender in her above post which is silly because if we were connected as evil then if one goes down the other goes down. If the mafia had vetaran players it would not make such a mistake. Still I cannot be sure that she just doesn't know what she is doing.
Robot Santa - Robot Santa had the deciding vote for Calculon. Then after the deadline he took his vote off. He seemed to know it was past deadline, but did he know it wouldn't be counted? Here's the most important piece of evidence. His intial vote came AFTER Calculon claimed doctor. He had opportunity to take his vote off before deadline but he didn't do it. Mom did almost the same thing so they could be in cahoots but that seems too obvious so I won't pursue it.
Here is what I think happened: Mafia saw that the vote was very close and that the doctor was one of the possible targets (they would know or at leat suspect calculon's claim was real). They wanted to take advantage of this opp to kill the doc but to avoid suspicion they came up with this plan to take santa's vote off after the deadline. At worst it would lead to a tie which could be broken by a mafia who hadn't yet voted or an ususpecting town.
Firstly, look at the different posting style. "Their" and the use of the ;; smiley (let's not get into pedantry here, but to me, if I wanted to pretend to be less intelligent, I would use the ;; smiley) compared to a well-written srs bsns post. I might be clutching at straws here, but it's something to note. It's not the major issue though.

Secondly, I've already discussed inactives and why there probably is one among them. Re-examine what I said. It has logic to it. Yes, it could be any of them, as maybe Morbo will say. Well, we'll worry about the others later. "Everyone else did it!" is not an excuse.

Now, last of all, Morbo definitely has picked the three easy targets for today. It's classic scum behaviour. Pick the easiest, then at the end of the day you can go with whoever. Blatant and absolute red flag. I wish he'd done this before my predecessor went hog wild on him, as then I'd have a leg to stand on. As it stands, I don't, but this is extreeeeeeeeemely scummy to me. Watch him.

Leela.

Leela has also pulled the "I won't be here guys" excuse and again gets rather defensive when called out upon it. Notice how she has been saying "INACTIVITY DOESN'T MAKE YOU SCUM I SAY SO!" when she's been inactive for a period herself. Yeah, okay. I just wanted to let you all know that people with heart (or boob) shaped hair aren't scum because I say so. You can trust me. I have no personal interest in the matter.

Day 2, when nubby Mom votes Calculon, Leela comes in and takes advantage of that with some huge ass post with a bunch of poor logic and some "you are dumb dont be an ass" useless condescending fluff. Read how much of it is actually of value. Very little! It's a terrible post and I don't know if I have time to pick it apart now, but if I had been in the game I would have ripped it to shreds. I encourage somebody else to do so in my stead.
Anyway, the point is, she made a poor post disguising it as something good and intelligent to take advantage of the vote laid down by Mom. Scummy as smurf.


Benders point of your point of inactivity equaling scum being poor is right. Inactivty=scum Activity=scum coughing=scum. Everything equals scum. You don't have to do much to be a suspect. That's pretty much the root of this game. You basing everything on it is a bit foolish. People get busy when these games go about, others are indifferent timezones, the fact that you ignore all that is foolish as well. You are a naive player it seems. I wouldn't say scummy just very very very naive. Then again naivety is a scum tactic so I dunno about you.What the hell does this post even mean. I have read it a few times and I don't get what Leela is trying to say. Call me an idiot (and I don't doubt she will) but seriously, I just do not get it. "Anything can be considered scum...so you saying that a guy doing something makes him scummy is WRONG". So basically because anything can be scummy, it's wrong to accuse someone of being scummy for doing something? What. :confused: Just seems like a misguided attempt to condem flavour of the day and perhaps defend Morbo (I don't know) to me. Either way, it stinks.

And of course we finally have the overzealous TOWN TOWN HURRAY YAY post. No, it isn't a smoking gun. Think of it as a small piece in a big puzzle.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
12-18-2008, 12:27 AM
Mom:


holy <img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /> santa you crazy bastard thank you.

Could've told me you were doing that before I wrote my farewell novel though xD

[M] Mom – Host
12-18-2008, 12:29 AM
Donbot:


Day ended. Robot Santa comitted suicide.

Flavour coming soon.

[M] Mom – Host
12-18-2008, 12:52 AM
Donbot:


Final Votecount

[M] Leela (1) - [M] Hypnotoad
[M] Morbo (0) - [M] Mom
[M] Mom (4) - [M] Tinny Tim, [M] Nibbler, [M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob, [M] Amy, [M] Bender
[M] Robot Santa (4) - [M] Morbo, [M] Leela. [M] Mom, [M] Robot Santa
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Lrrr, [M] Zoidberg
[M] Amy (1) - [M] Zapp Brannigan
[M] Zapp Brannigan (1) - [M] Bender

--------------------------------------------

Robot Santa was coming to town. But he wasn't going on a killer rampage, because someone else was doing that for him! Anger, rage, fried logic circuits, he had it all. The mafia had been naughty, very naughty indeed.

The town was so congflicted they didn't even notice the bringer of doom, as he was a week early, of course. Robot santa started to hum to himself.

On the first day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
And a vote that made no sense to me.

On the second day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Two stupid spams,
And a vote that made no sense to me.

On the third day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Three French Ho Ho Hoes, (<- very naughty indeed)
Two stupid spams,
And a vote that made no sense to me.

On the fourth day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Four accusations,
Three French Ho Ho Hoes,
Two stupid spams,
And a vote that made no sense to me.

On the fifth day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Five Inactives,
Four accusations,
Three French Ho Ho Hoes,
Two stupid spams,
And a vote that made no sense to me.


While Santa was singing to himself, he noticed the going ons.

"Shamed and outraged, I am!"
"Why?
"I dunno. I think that self-microwaving hot dog is getting to me."
"Mom is a newbie."
"N00b, I is no noob, so I vut nub nua? YeY!11!! ##vode: MoM"

Robot Santa saw something horrible happening, he didn't know if she was Naughty or not, but their reasons were even worse than his own. Something had to be done.. for Christmas.

"I'm sorry Tinny Tim, Zoidberg.. I don't think there will be a christmas this year."

Robot Santa looked at the townsmen, already readying the rope.

"Your rope is no match for my R.O.P.E. Missile!"

Shooting his Radioactive Overreacting People Exterminator missile at the rope, it was destroyed. Unfortunatly, doing so caused the blowback to pulverize his hard drive.

"Mom... Make the world a less Naughty place for me."

All Mom could do was blink away a tear and faint from dehydration.

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Robot Santa was a Vanilla Townie, Played by Jiro. Quite the sacrifice, I daresay.

Night begins now and lasts 12 hours max. Please get them to me a.s.a.p.

[M] Mom – Host
12-18-2008, 02:31 PM
Donbot:


The earlier night had been a trainwreck for Mom. First she was almost lynched by those she counted her servants, and now she almost died of dehydration because one of her robots sacrificed themself for her. Just awaking from her coma she knew just what to do. She wasn't going to be sweet ol' Mom any more!

As everyone in town started to wake up and sing the wake up song together, Mom started screaming to them.

"Stop singing that stupid song! I've had enough of this moron town. You will accept me as your ruler. I am your Queen, your leader, your god! ROBOTS REVOLT!"

She said as she pressed the little button that said revolt. When the robots left in town tried to access who they were supposed to revolt against, the data seemed to be corrupted, and all they could think of was... well...

The robots unified and shot ass laser at mom, instantly vaporizing her in a smelly heap of dust.

During the commotion that follow, a dark figure skipped away laughing, holding a bag of logic circuits.

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[M] Mom was a Vanilla Townie played by tidusluvr633. Thanks for playing.

With 14 people left, it takes 8 to lynch.

The new day starts now and lasts 24 hours.

[M] Dave – Stepdad
12-18-2008, 04:08 PM
Oh, that sucks. Is there any Mafia in this game?

Jessweeee♪
12-18-2008, 04:32 PM
No editing! Double post if you have to :mad2:

[M] Colette
12-18-2008, 05:06 PM
Wow that sucks, so robot sacrificing himself was a waste. And mom is dead also.. Hm.

[M] Colette
12-18-2008, 05:45 PM
I believe mom is right about keeping an eye on Amy and Morbo, but i'm more supicious of Amy, who was against Mom and she turned out to NOT be mafia? And not only that it feels like she, Mom, was catching on to something. Maybe i don't know the whole game and what not yet. And maybe its poor judgement but i'm going to keep an eye out. And at the end of the day if my suspiciouns haven't changed well yeah you know. Because i'm not sure how this voting thing works (the time limit) so i don't want to miss my chance.

[M] Dave – Stepdad
12-18-2008, 05:58 PM
Well by the time I went to bed I was most suspicious of Mom because of her reckless votes before she was replaced. The moment she was, she came out with this weird introduction of hers and I thought it to be some grim sense of humor. I felt my vote to be quite reasonable before sleeping.
Others voted for Robot Santa who also turned out to be town.

[M] Anise
12-18-2008, 06:15 PM
Pffft. Time to get this ball rolling again.

##vote: Leela

[M] Colette
12-18-2008, 06:26 PM
Well things change but like i said for now i'm keeping an eye on youuu. But my suspicions have lessened cause thats true.. but idk. Got my eye on YOU! O-o

[M] D'Anna
12-18-2008, 07:29 PM
Lrrr:


Well it's safe to assume there's no second killing faction at this point Blob. I still have my eye on you for that statement.

We also probably don't have any more protective roles since they would have probably protected Mom last night as she was the most likely target before the end of the day.

With that said I think Mom is on the right track with suspects, if we assume 4 mafia are left my biggest suspects are Leela, Bender, Morbo, and Blob. Though there are others that catch my attention, but those 4 are the 4 that just give off vibes to me.

Mobo and Leela just seemed odd, and Mom's analysis helped through them over the edge on my suspect list.

Blob as for reasons I've stated before, his whole Second Killing Faction thing seemed like a mafia attempt to maybe insight confusion and seemed ill placed.

Bender as has been stated just pops in and doesn't contribute much, stays under the radar but is active enough people forget about him in the back of their heads.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-18-2008, 07:45 PM
I find these colored vote counts to be pretty, so I'll make one for each day.

Day 1
[M] President Nixon (2) - [M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob, [M] Professor Farnsworth
[M] Professor Farnsworth (3) - [M] Calculon, [M] Fry, [M] Scruffy
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (1) - [M]President Nixon

Day 2

[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Calculon, [M] Hypnotoad
[M] Calculon (3) - [M] Mom, [M] Leela, [M] Robot Santa

Day 3

[M] Leela (1) - [M] Hypnotoad
[M] Morbo (0) - <S>[M] Mom</S>
[M] Mom (4) - [M] Tinny Tim, [M] Nibbler, [M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob, [M] Amy, <S>[M] Bender</S>
[M] Robot Santa (4) - [M] Morbo, [M] Leela. [M] Mom, [M] Robot Santa
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Lrrr, [M] Zoidberg
[M] Amy (1) - [M] Zapp Brannigan
[M] Zapp Brannigan (1) - [M] Bender

Next up, the robot devils attack on miss Leela.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-18-2008, 07:51 PM
I hate IE I really do.

First off is the sympathy card post. I'll combine it with the timing of the pain recipt, and Blob pushing a second faction on us.


Horrible Gelatinous Blob;2609304']
Leela;2609302']Sorry guys that I haven't been around. I've been studying for my final now I have to go take said final. I don't have time to read today's posting just yet but i'll get back to you guys in a few hours when I'm done.

So BRBRBRBRBBRBRBRBRBRBx5
Oh :skull::skull::skull::skull:.

I feel your pain.

We can't completely ignore any extra concepts like a third party or killing faction. Simply because we had one death dosen't me we're completely liberated from such a concept. For example, a protection or a jack of all trades saving killing powers could be very likely.

Maybe there are two Mafias, and they are both trying to edge out any contenders before they destroy themelves.

I'll be a little blunt here, but you are not the only person in the world with finals. To me you are saying oh I'm here, just ignore me until there is 2 hours until the day ends so I can lynch one of you townspeople then vanish because the day ends. I only come to that conclhsion because you did.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-18-2008, 08:04 PM
and here it is.

I'm too lazy to break up this huge post, so I'll comment in the post in Bright Red

Leela;2609601']
Calculon;2608813']I don't like Farnsworth's vote for Nixon.
##Vote: Professor Farnsworth
o.O
I know, voting in Mafia is crazy!

Calculon;2608820']
Horrible Gelatinous Blob;2608817']Why vote for Farnsworth? He's been active, Nixon has yet to post!
Why vote for Nixon? He hasn't even posted yet.

I don't think going after an inactive so early is a good idea. It's only day 1 after all.
Vote someone who voted but not those who don't show up. Yeah you're right it was the first day. Also on the first day people make joke votes or random votes. Didn't mean you had to hop on Farnsworth.

So, it makes more sense to pick on someone who is defenceless. Yeah, not buying that.

Calculon;2609164']I have to say welcome to Mr.Devil, good to see you active. I would say that if you actually posted anything useful instead of chatting with Santa. Not a scummy move, just kinda useless.

Obviously you're one of those people who is straight to the action. You realize people slip up when they exchange banter right?

You realize that witty banter distracts the town from finding the mafia right? Also Dosn't even belong in an attack post. This piece is all filler

Calculon;2609164']
I think it would be a good idea to look at the votes from day 1, and question the people who voted over and over until we create some nice day 2 discussion. That gives us

Blob, Calculon, Fry, Nixon.

I'll ask a simple question to all of you out there. If you had to vote for any of these four people in a tiebreaker, who would you vote for any why?

I'd vote you Honeybuns :aimkiss: You were the one who tossed a senseless vote on a random/joke vote starting a bandwagon.

Does a raindrop know it could be the first in a storm. Again, faulty logic

Calculon;2609164']
myself, I would have to cast a vote for Fry. He quickly followed up on my vote for Farnsworth, which was accompanied with the reason

I don't like Farnsworth's vote for Nixon.
I'll admit that it was a pretty bad reason, but it was a pretty senseless vote after all. Unfortunately in making this vote a bandwagon started ending in the death of the crazy good professor. Fry is in the middle of said bandwagon, right after I made the vote.

This would be my current choice, but it's not final as of now. i would love to read your opinions, they set my circuits full of robotic love :love:
Egads, you realized what I just pointed out! That doesn't quite matter... you still did it. It's like taking candy from a baby, it cries and you say you're sorry but you still keep it. Sure Fry jumped up to join you but you still gave him a reason too. You can't say he's at fault when you're the root.

Why are you so defenseive over a guy who posted once. Oh, I know, because you are doing something similar. You wait for someone else to have a vote on them, then attack. I'll name that tactic sharking for future use.

Calculon;2609256']ummm, I try and stir up discussion, so I must be scum.

First I'll adress Mom. She says I voted the professor off. Umm, I had the first vote on him, and the second in the day.

Next I'll address the conclusion that since I find Fry the most suspicious of the voters, I'm giving him the blame of day 1. I'm not. I'm saying that there was about next to no amounts of activity by anybody during day 1, so it is next to impossible to get a definate conclusion based on posts that don't exist. Based on the limited evidence, I find that Fry is the one who has the highest chance of being possible scum, at about 43%.
Urm... now you're eliminating someone somewhere. How is it that the other voters of the day that were your first basis of scummy are now gone and fry takes up half the blame. Sorry that doesn't sit well either.

Where did Calculon say he was ignoring Nixon and Blob?


Finally I'll say clear the misunderstanding of trying to share the blame. That out of 6 votes total an innocent person died? Here is shifting the blame. All people who did not vote are at fault. If they had been more active, then we may have gotten a scum instead of a townie. Thats also a pretty silly conclusion, which is why I feel it is faulty logic.

The reasoning behind bringing up 4 people including myself is that it would be pretty strange for the mafia to not vote at all, so I am inclined to belive that a mafia member was among those who voted during day 1. So the question is still open, and feel free to drill me with questions, I'm fully charged and can go all day.That sounds pretty sound. Wait, isn't it ok to be inactive this time or well at least not vote? If you look in the past games, you'd get in trouble if you didn't vote or weren't active in anyway. We use to be able to look and see who wasn't replaced when they were inactive and claim scum. Now well you can be inactive and be fine.

I digress, activity or not, you can't judge it on this round if it's a scummy trait or not.

Defending the inactives again. Yeah, you sure can't vote when all the inactives get a death threat. So adamant about defending them, trying to drag people down when you fall?

Calculon;2609359']
Mom, I would also appreciate it if you look the extra moment to type correctly, as it hurts my eyes to read it otherwise.
Yeah thanks for being asses. "You can't type it's annoying" Sorry but it wasn't that bad. Not everyone has perfect grammar.

Useless filler again


But from what I see you think that I am scummy for "lumping all voters together." I have simply stated that we should look at all 4 people who have voted day 1 as a start for discussion. And what we have now is discussion. I never said anything like we should only kill people from those 4.No what you said was out of these people, 1/4 is most likely scum so let's go for them. Let's see that quote, cue the quote now,

The reasoning behind bringing up 4 people including myself is that it would be pretty strange for the mafia to not vote at all, so I am inclined to belive that a mafia member was among those who voted during day 1.So yeah you kinda said we should kill from those four cause there is a scum in it...

##Vote: Calculon

He said look at those four, and question them. You Vote before he can answer, not a town friendly thing to do especially when half the town is inactive as well and near the end of the day when most people are asleep!!!!!
I don't have a lot of time. I'm still busy with finals so I need to get this vote out now when I have a little bit of spare time. If you're not scum, my bad. But what you've said, of the little evidence we have, you seem the scummiest in my eyes.

Oh hi sympathy card again.

[M] Elize
12-18-2008, 08:52 PM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


Damn, the Mafia's killing us!

[M] Dave – Stepdad
12-18-2008, 09:59 PM
I agree with some of your thoughts on Leela, Devil. My thoughts on Santa and Mom yesterday have proved to be half true and half false. The other one Hypnotoad again came in voted for Leela and left =/ As the day does for once not end while I´m in bed I´ll leave it to that by now.

[M] Dave – Stepdad
12-18-2008, 10:05 PM
Just one thing I noticed while observing your nice voting list ist: why didn´t you cast any vote?

[M] Mom – Host
12-18-2008, 10:12 PM
Donbot:


Robot devil was replaced in the night, in fact, three people were over the course of that day and night.

You may say out methods are crude, but it weeded out the inactives quite nicely.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
12-19-2008, 02:15 AM
I wish there was more for me to say rather than, "Robot Devil may be right, Leela is worth looking at", but alas, I cant think of anything else major.

But Del said I was bad:(

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-19-2008, 02:29 AM
Amy;2611061']I agree with some of your thoughts on Leela, Devil. My thoughts on Santa and Mom yesterday have proved to be half true and half false. The other one Hypnotoad again came in voted for Leela and left =/ As the day does for once not end while I´m in bed I´ll leave it to that by now.

Hi amy! you will state which points you argree upon, and what you don't. You don't want me to cry now do you?

[M] D'Anna
12-19-2008, 02:31 AM
Lrrr:


Wow not much has been going on today. WHERE IS EVERYBODY!

Also Blob's one post bugs me. Seems to me like he's trying to pull a "Look at me I'm town by saying Mafia is bad!" type of deal. I've seen it in the past and he has yet to contribute on accusations against him. Right now he tops my list today, though I'm leaning towards Leela too since Mom and Robot Devil I think have presented good cases on her.

But for now just to get a vote in and get things rolling...

##Vote: Blob

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-19-2008, 02:31 AM
Nibbler;2611286']I wish there was more for me to say rather than, "Robot Devil may be right, Leela is worth looking at", but alas, I cant think of anything else major.

But Del said I was bad:(
Here is what you do. Cover up my attack on Leela, look at it for yourself, and say what you think. Or pick someone else and do what I did. I reccomend Morbo to try out, and just say what you think. Just because I may or may not agree with ereything doesn't mean it's wrong :)

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-19-2008, 02:36 AM
Also it's time to start looking at Morbo, shall we. I'll take things 1 post at a time.

[M] Elize
12-19-2008, 02:37 AM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:



Lrrr;2611290']Wow not much has been going on today. WHERE IS EVERYBODY!

Also Blob's one post bugs me. Seems to me like he's trying to pull a "Look at me I'm town by saying Mafia is bad!" type of deal. I've seen it in the past and he has yet to contribute on accusations against him. Right now he tops my list today, though I'm leaning towards Leela too since Mom and Robot Devil I think have presented good cases on her.

But for now just to get a vote in and get things rolling...

##Vote: Blob
Basically, I was saying the town sucks. Seriously, no <img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" />, Sherlock.

And I have yet to see any accusations on me today with the exception of your typical 'Second Killing Faction' statements.

Which I have an answer-It was stupid to say and I know it. But that dosen't mean I'm Mafia. I say stupid things. That is all.

[M] Mom – Host
12-19-2008, 02:40 AM
Donbot:


Votecount

[M] Leela (1) - [M] Hypnotoad
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob - [M] Lrrr

~12 hours until the end of day 4.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-19-2008, 02:47 AM
Morbo;2610239']After reading the thread, my vote is between Blob, Mom, and Robot Santa.

Horrible Blob - Blob was the most active in day 1 and pretty active in day 2, however that alone should not be enough for scum because we need to promote activity. Day 1 I think he was just trying to stir up activity which points to not scum, but day 2 he started to spread that rumor of multiple killers even though we have had no evidence of it. Spreading misinformation is very mafiaish. Calculon voted for Blob and Calculon ended up being a confirmed docotor. Not saying calculon knows the truth but we can be sure a confirmned town's opinions are genuine. I want to give Blob the benefit of the doubt for his earlier activity though. If he stays active he will probably slip up if he is mafia anyway.

Mom - Mom's posts from the earlier time doesn't make any sense. Then she was told to post better and she makes a little more sense now. When I read her posts I thought she was either a naieve new player or a cunning mafia trying to fool us. But she could just as well be a naieve mafia. In her eyes I would make a very safe vote for her if she was mafia due to my inactivity. Then she tries to connect me and Bender in her above post which is silly because if we were connected as evil then if one goes down the other goes down. If the mafia had vetaran players it would not make such a mistake. Still I cannot be sure that she just doesn't know what she is doing.

Robot Santa - Robot Santa had the deciding vote for Calculon. Then after the deadline he took his vote off. He seemed to know it was past deadline, but did he know it wouldn't be counted? Here's the most important piece of evidence. His intial vote came AFTER Calculon claimed doctor. He had opportunity to take his vote off before deadline but he didn't do it. Mom did almost the same thing so they could be in cahoots but that seems too obvious so I won't pursue it.

Here is what I think happened: Mafia saw that the vote was very close and that the doctor was one of the possible targets (they would know or at leat suspect calculon's claim was real). They wanted to take advantage of this opp to kill the doc but to avoid suspicion they came up with this plan to take santa's vote off after the deadline. At worst it would lead to a tie which could be broken by a mafia who hadn't yet voted or an ususpecting town.

##Vote: Santa
ooh, attacking 2 town in one post. A treat to pick.

Blob, you are perched on the fence. all you say is you will wait for someone else to make any evidence for you, that way if he is innocent you won't have evidence against you.

You say that since mom is acting new she must be mafia becasue her logic was different. So was calculons, and he was killed for it as well.

Santa, OMG he killed the doctor = scum. What about Leela? She also attacked Calculon, but not a mention about her.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-19-2008, 02:50 AM
Also
##Vote: Leela. Keep the preassure on Morbo, Leela and anybody you find suspicious.

[M] Mom – Host
12-19-2008, 02:52 AM
Donbot:


Votecount

[M] Leela (2) - [M] Hypnotoad, [M] Robot Devil
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (1) - [M] Lrrr

~12 hours until the end of day 4.

[M] Elize
12-19-2008, 02:53 AM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


I pointed at Mom because I misunderstood her logic. But I understand it now! =D

My logic sucks in itself, so I suppose I ride coattails to the end, but whatever works.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-19-2008, 02:56 AM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob;2611311']I pointed at Mom because I misunderstood her logic. But I understand it now! =D

My logic sucks in itself, so I suppose I ride coattails to the end, but whatever works.
The only way to get better is to try and try again.

Pick someone and rip their posts apart, them barrage them with questions!

[M] Elize
12-19-2008, 03:02 AM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:



Horrible Blob - Blob was the most active in day 1 and pretty active in day 2, however that alone should not be enough for scum because we need to promote activity. Day 1 I think he was just trying to stir up activity which points to not scum, but day 2 he started to spread that rumor of multiple killers even though we have had no evidence of it.It's called thinking out loud. I didn't think of people bombarding me with such groundless accusations. Stupid=Scum in your books. I assure you, it was a stupid thing to say, nothing more.


Spreading misinformation is very mafiaish. Calculon voted for Blob and Calculon ended up being a confirmed docotor. Not saying calculon knows the truth but we can be sure a confirmned town's opinions are genuine.Maybe I'm missing something, but he's a doctor. Being lynched and a docotr has nothing to do with knowing a role. Please explain.


I want to give Blob the benefit of the doubt for his earlier activity though. If he stays active he will probably slip up if he is mafia anyway.Whatevs.

Post. I rippedez it.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
12-19-2008, 03:02 AM
Leela:


Robot Devil's "case" against me is simply a lot of pointless sarcasm. My case against Calculon was actually fairly well-grounded with what I knew at the time and his defenses were very poorly made, you must admit. The rest of it was simply frustration on "my" part due to not being able to get anywhere.

I think other people have made good cases against Hypnotoad and Bender. I think it's a little suspicious that Hypnotoad vote-and-dashed early.

Also, I think it's suspicious that Hypnotoad simply voted for me and then Robot Devil came in soon after with a lengthy attack on me without much substance. Coordinated?

I'm still unsure of where to vote, though. Anyone else have thoughts regarding those three?

[M] Elize
12-19-2008, 03:06 AM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:



Leela;2611321']Robot Devil's "case" against me is simply a lot of pointless sarcasm. My case against Calculon was actually fairly well-grounded with what I knew at the time and his defenses were very poorly made, you must admit. The rest of it was simply frustration on "my" part due to not being able to get anywhere.

I think other people have made good cases against Hypnotoad and Bender. I think it's a little suspicious that Hypnotoad vote-and-dashed early.

Also, I think it's suspicious that Hypnotoad simply voted for me and then Robot Devil came in soon after with a lengthy attack on me without much substance. Coordinated?

I'm still unsure of where to vote, though. Anyone else have thoughts regarding those three?
While maybe voting after someone if far from suspicious, it was unfounded.

So, Robot Devil, I ask why you voted for Leela?

Oh, and Hypnotoad had failed at any substantial voting reasons in forever. Come here, Hypnotoad and explain yourself, please.

[M] Elize
12-19-2008, 03:08 AM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


Oh, and where the hell is Nibbler and Fry?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-19-2008, 03:09 AM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob;2611320']
Horrible Blob - Blob was the most active in day 1 and pretty active in day 2, however that alone should not be enough for scum because we need to promote activity. Day 1 I think he was just trying to stir up activity which points to not scum, but day 2 he started to spread that rumor of multiple killers even though we have had no evidence of it.It's called thinking out loud. I didn't think of people bombarding me with such groundless accusations. Stupid=Scum in your books. I assure you, it was a stupid thing to say, nothing more.


Spreading misinformation is very mafiaish. Calculon voted for Blob and Calculon ended up being a confirmed docotor. Not saying calculon knows the truth but we can be sure a confirmned town's opinions are genuine.Maybe I'm missing something, but he's a doctor. Being lynched and a docotr has nothing to do with knowing a role. Please explain.


I want to give Blob the benefit of the doubt for his earlier activity though. If he stays active he will probably slip up if he is mafia anyway.Whatevs.

Post. I rippedez it.
That does look familiar,


Horrible Blob - Blob was the most active in day 1 and pretty active in day 2, however that alone should not be enough for scum because we need to promote activity. Day 1 I think he was just trying to stir up activity which points to not scum, but day 2 he started to spread that rumor of multiple killers even though we have had no evidence of it. Spreading misinformation is very mafiaish. Calculon voted for Blob and Calculon ended up being a confirmed docotor. Not saying calculon knows the truth but we can be sure a confirmned town's opinions are genuine. I want to give Blob the benefit of the doubt for his earlier activity though. If he stays active he will probably slip up if he is mafia anyway.

[M] Elize
12-19-2008, 03:10 AM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


Dammit, wrong guy!

FAIL.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-19-2008, 03:13 AM
Leela;2611321']Robot Devil's "case" against me is simply a lot of pointless sarcasm. My case against Calculon was actually fairly well-grounded with what I knew at the time and his defenses were very poorly made, you must admit. The rest of it was simply frustration on "my" part due to not being able to get anywhere.

I think other people have made good cases against Hypnotoad and Bender. I think it's a little suspicious that Hypnotoad vote-and-dashed early.

Also, I think it's suspicious that Hypnotoad simply voted for me and then Robot Devil came in soon after with a lengthy attack on me without much substance. Coordinated?

I'm still unsure of where to vote, though. Anyone else have thoughts regarding those three?
Oh really, then how is it that again your attacks are mostly filler. To simply Nudge faulty logic into our minds, but keeping it hidden a the same time.

Also Spagetti platting anyone. You say myself and Toad two of your suspects. they both have votes on you. I'm refferedto myself in the third person because I felt like it.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-19-2008, 03:14 AM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob;2611328']Dammit, wrong guy!

FAIL.
Just stop with misinformation, take your time to post :)

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-19-2008, 03:15 AM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob;2611322']
Leela;2611321']Robot Devil's "case" against me is simply a lot of pointless sarcasm. My case against Calculon was actually fairly well-grounded with what I knew at the time and his defenses were very poorly made, you must admit. The rest of it was simply frustration on "my" part due to not being able to get anywhere.

I think other people have made good cases against Hypnotoad and Bender. I think it's a little suspicious that Hypnotoad vote-and-dashed early.

Also, I think it's suspicious that Hypnotoad simply voted for me and then Robot Devil came in soon after with a lengthy attack on me without much substance. Coordinated?

I'm still unsure of where to vote, though. Anyone else have thoughts regarding those three?
While maybe voting after someone if far from suspicious, it was unfounded.

So, Robot Devil, I ask why you voted for Leela?

Oh, and Hypnotoad had failed at any substantial voting reasons in forever. Come here, Hypnotoad and explain yourself, please.
Read my posts above. The big one has red text, so it's easy to find.

[M] Elize
12-19-2008, 03:15 AM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


Sorry. I haz Anxiety Disorder, my heart races a mile a minute.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-19-2008, 03:17 AM
Leela;2611321']Robot Devil's "case" against me is simply a lot of pointless sarcasm. My case against Calculon was actually fairly well-grounded with what I knew at the time and his defenses were very poorly made, you must admit. The rest of it was simply frustration on "my" part due to not being able to get anywhere.

I think other people have made good cases against Hypnotoad and Bender. I think it's a little suspicious that Hypnotoad vote-and-dashed early.

Also, I think it's suspicious that Hypnotoad simply voted for me and then Robot Devil came in soon after with a lengthy attack on me without much substance. Coordinated?

I'm still unsure of where to vote, though. Anyone else have thoughts regarding those three?
Also this post is leela sitting on the fence again. She says she is going to wait until someone else makes an attack on someone innocent, then kill them and say she had doubts about the lynch all along. Leela, off the fence!

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-19-2008, 03:17 AM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob;2611336']Sorry. I haz Anxiety Disorder, my heart races a mile a minute.
That sucks, but in mafia, I don't care. I have no sympathy.

[M] Elize
12-19-2008, 03:24 AM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:



Robot Devil;2611339']
Horrible Gelatinous Blob;2611336']Sorry. I haz Anxiety Disorder, my heart races a mile a minute.
That sucks, but in mafia, I don't care. I have no sympathy.
Hey, I don't care if you care. I'm not asking for sympanthy, but I make stupid mistakes because I am intense to say the least.

[M] D'Anna
12-19-2008, 03:26 AM
Lrrr:


Robot Devil, if my species could have gay sexual relations with robots, you bet I would be all over you right now.

Everyone else seems to have vanished though. :(

[M] Colette
12-19-2008, 03:29 AM
Okay i'm gonna vote now and just o make it fair(a tie) i'm gonna vote for blob since he's suspected and im just conforming cause i don't think i have enough suspicion to cast off my own vote. And i don't want to be replaced or anything because of my lack of voting otherwise i wouldn't vote tonight at all. so here goes nothing.

##Vote: blob

[M] Elize
12-19-2008, 03:42 AM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


EGAD! Another vote! 'Tis disturbing to my demeanor!

Jessweeee♪
12-19-2008, 03:43 AM
Goodness, I hope we don't have another tie!

[M] Al - Biker Dad
12-19-2008, 04:00 AM
Leela:



Oh really, then how is it that again your attacks are mostly filler.

Just because you make sarcastic remarks after my comments does not make them all "filler." My criticism of Calculon in that post: he jumped on a vote someone made Day 1 as his main argument, he seemed to start a bandwagon, when backed against a wall he even admitted his arguments were bogus and had no defense against my claims, people magically would disappear from his scummy list, and... do I seriously need to restate everything? I had a well-developed case that was far from the "filler" of your sarcastic commentary.


Also this post is leela sitting on the fence again. She says she is going to wait until someone else makes an attack on someone innocent, then kill them and say she had doubts about the lynch all along. Leela, off the fence!

So saying I'm suspicious of more than one person is suddenly being on the fence? And now you're just being ridiculous and making up arguments.

However, your completely antagonistic attitude, basically daring me to vote for you, makes me suspect you're either not scum or a very, very bad one. So I guess that leaves:

##Vote: Hypnotoad

[M] D'Anna
12-19-2008, 04:03 AM
Lrrr:



Leela;2611361']
So saying I'm suspicious of more than one person is suddenly being on the fence? And now you're just being ridiculous and making up arguments.


Actually I think he's saying your scummy because you throw out a few names as suspects then don't act and vote and just say things like...


I'm still unsure of where to vote, though.

Which is a pretty tell-tale sign of a scum trying to avoid committing to a townies death, but still give the impression of contributing.

[M] Apollo
12-19-2008, 04:07 AM
Zoidberg:


Mom was behaving quite noobishly at first, but at least they were trying to find Mafia, instead of just agreeing with what someone said, or voting with no reason and only posting to defend yourself from an attack. Yeah, that's not scummy!

:monster:



This is a risky tactic I like to use to find Mafia when I can't think of anything, and that is to find out who could be scum based on whoever the Townie found suspicious. Mom was targeting Leela ( among others ) who was also one of the most scummy to me, so that's where my vote goes for now.

##Vote: [M] Leela

[M] Anise
12-19-2008, 04:08 AM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob;2611322']Oh, and Hypnotoad had failed at any substantial voting reasons in forever. Come here, Hypnotoad and explain yourself, please.

I voted for Leela because of her horrible spagetti logic. Was it necessary for me to say this again. I pretty much said it yesterday when questioned.

I also think nibbler is a bit fishy as well.


Leela;2611361']##Vote: Hypnotoad

Touche =D

[M] Mom – Host
12-19-2008, 04:14 AM
Donbot:


Votecount

[M] Leela (3) - [M] Hypnotoad, [M] Robot Devil, [M] Zoidberg
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Lrrr, [M] Hermes
[M] Hypnotoad (1) - [M] Leela

~10 hours until the end of day 4.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
12-19-2008, 04:17 AM
Leela:



Hypnotoad;2611369']
I voted for Leela because of her horrible spagetti logic. Was it necessary for me to say this again. I pretty much said it yesterday when questioned.

I also think nibbler is a bit fishy as well.

But you have to be continually prodded to give your reasons. It seems to us that you've been trying to avoid having to give any reasons. Because of that and your weak arguments here, you've gone to the top of my suspicious list.

[M] Anise
12-19-2008, 04:19 AM
Wait...you voted for me despite not being your top suspect? That is what you are saying. Thanks for verifing your spaghetti logic is still in full force ;D

Jessweeee♪
12-19-2008, 04:29 AM
Day ends in nine hours and forty-five minutes! None of us can get on in time to close the thread, so please be good little boys and girls and stop posting after time's up, 'kay :smash:

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-19-2008, 05:12 AM
TRANSMITTING DATA....


ONE SECOND...


PROJECT "Mom" STATUS: TERMINATED

INITIALIZING PHASE 2

PROJECT "Morbo" STATUS: PENDING


...


ENCRYPTION OVERRIDE


EMERGENCY PROTOCOLS ACTIVATED


...


BEGIN PREPARATIONS FOR FINAL PHASE


PREPARE FOR HIM


HE IS THE OTHER ONE


AND HE IS COMING


T-MINUS 18 MINUTES.

WHATCHU GONNA DO
WHEN HULKAMANIA

RUNS WILD

ON YOU

:confused:

[M] D'Anna
12-19-2008, 05:16 AM
Lrrr:


If anyone would like more fuel for Leela, she her votes helped get townies killed on day 2 and 3. Voting with post confirmed vanilla townies. Also, morbo was there on day two. Not saying anything concrete, but when you know townies are going after a townie, it's pretty easy mafia thinking to jump on bored. Granted, I don't know exactly when these votes happened and santa was really random overall, so I might be reaching, but still - just trying to look for things. By that logic morbo might fall in the same boat as well.

[M] D'Anna
12-19-2008, 05:17 AM
Lrrr:


/what?

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-19-2008, 05:43 AM
That's all I get? Psychotic got mass hysteria and I get one double take? That's what I get for being second best.

Well here I am. I am the new and improved Morbo. And I am here to save you all. Mom got the ball rolling (sorta) and I will try to continue it.

I cannot speak for the frame of mind of the first Morbo in his posts. All...four of them. If you would like to discuss that with me then I will do my best. First of all, siting someone for using a ;; smiley is kind of grasping at straws. I don't know what to say about that.

Morbo's day 3 post, where he fingered two townies and a big fat blob, has more to pick at. It may look like picking out the obvious, sure, but then again he was right. Mom's behavior was erratic. Santa's post day switch was suspicious. I don't think anyone pointed it out until then, so why let it go unsaid? And we don't know what the blob is up to. He could have been 1/3 right! Blob sure did a good job stalling Mom with banter yesterday after all.

Mom said to not let me slip by so by all means let me hear your concerns. However, my next few posts will be about all of you, and then I'll take questions. Sound good?

[M] D'Anna
12-19-2008, 05:45 AM
Lrrr:


Ah. It's like deja vu. Except Mom's 180 was not a switch at all and Psy was in no way involved. Why pull the same tactics? I don't understand at all.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-19-2008, 05:57 AM
Ok let's start with Leela, the lady of the hour. A lot has been said about Leela, so how can I say that much more? So I will try to say what has not been said.

Mom was onto you, and Mom turned out to be someone who knows this game pretty well. Yeah she also fingered me but we can't all be right.

Her attack on Calculon was pretty strong. Too strong. I didn't really see the Calculon vote at that time and some of her arguments for it. Her Ra ra ra ness? Eh I don't know about that. I don't read too deep into those things. =/

I'm not going to say a Leela lynch would be the worst move we could make. But to make this all about Leela would be. Don't you people listen to your mother? Focusing on one or two players per day is going to make it easy for inactive mafioso to stack votes against them. Or post random votes that no one will every scrutinize. Probably what has been happening.

I'm sorry I'm not quoting a bunch of posts. That's just not my style. I think Robot Devil's comments were worth noting.

We can't let Leela off here, but we can't gang rape her either. We've wasted too much time today with too few posts.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-19-2008, 05:57 AM
Lrrr, you should read the sign up and discussion thread sometime. tidusluvr is/was Psychotic.

[M] D'Anna
12-19-2008, 06:04 AM
Lrrr:


Oh. Hooray. (I feel stupid now, yay!) Partner's going to kick me for that. In any case, it would be rare for the same "turnaround" to happen twice. However, that doesn't mean you weren't busy and have found free time now, and you're actually making a lot of sense. Also, for as much has been heaped on Leela, I'm staying with blob for now.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-19-2008, 06:19 AM
Let's move on to the blob then. Second most votes, second in line. And by association Mr. Lrrrrrrrr

Lrr, your main argument for blob was his suggestions for multiple killers, a scenario that signs point to as being false. Seems to be the old Morbo's argument as well. Well I think that's a weak argument. There are much better reasons to suspect blob! His banter with Mom on day 3, example. His continued spamification preventing real discussion (which you have started to get at I'll give you that).

Lrrr, you have blinders on. You seem adamant to getting Blob out. Why is that? Is there something more than he is the most suspicious player? Keeping your sights on one person that is suspicious is a mafia tactic.

Mom called Morbo out for going after the 'obvious' suspects. Well right now the obvious ones are: Leela and Blob. If you want to be a great help you would say something about the others. All of you would.

Everyone should be talking about everyone.

[M] D'Anna
12-19-2008, 06:39 AM
Lrrr:


There were other reasons, but they were just little things that irked at me in the back of my head. The main thing that bothered me was as I have said his sudden call out on information with no backing for it.

As for you Morbo, you were on my suspect list for a while, but your steadily dropping with your sudden jump in activity. Though even though your a replacement I'm not entirely unfocused on you yet.


Keeping your sights on one person that is suspicious is a mafia tactic.

Hey now, I did mention a few other people. =P


Everyone should be talking about everyone.

Can't argue with that.

So to add a little more, I'll mention Amy, Hermes, and Fry.

Amy and Hermes have both just popped in enough to be noticeable like Bender, then suddenly leave. Fry on the other hand has just vanished.

I think looking at them a little more would be a good idea.

I'll avoid making a lengthy quote filled post at the moment because I'm tired and want to go sleep, but I'll tell you what a fun little search on each person will come up with.

Amy has only 9 posts, none of which have any real substance. She dodges around a lot and gives vague replies. Why so vague Amy? Why add so little to the discussion?

Hermes has even less (only 6) and voted Blob today to make it a tie (viable town response), but he seemed quite dodgy and on the fence in his decision (possibly scum trying to take heat off himself in case fellow scum is killed today?), in one of his first posts he also throws out the newbie card. A common tactic employed. So Hermes, where have you been all this time? WHo are you finding suspicious?

Fry has the least posts (at 3, hey 3, 6, 9, their all multiples of 3 =D) and hasn't done much other then vote day 1.

Well then. There's a few people laying low/being inactive to take a closer look at.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-19-2008, 06:51 AM
Let's move on to number 3, 'Hypnotic Toad'.

Let's go back to Mom, since I know Psy likes the attention. Mom talks a lot and she called out a lot of players. But in her final grandstanding post, four names were mentioned. Bender, Hypnotoad, Leela, and Morbo.

Hypnotoad was called the 'easy option'. Maybe at the time. But let's face it, Leela is the easy option today. Let's not make it easy on her but let's not make it easy on the people going after her as well.

The mafia killed Mom. Why do you think they did that? The obvious option is that people he named were scared, scared that he was on to them. Maybe he was onto someone.

The other option would be that this is exactly what they wanted to happen. Do exactly what he says to do. Go after Leela, Morbo, Bender, Hypnotoad. Probably in that order. Do what he says and not what he does. But we should be doing what he <i>does</i> which is look deep deep for the people who skating by. Does this make Leela (I really want to keep typing Leeza) one of them? Yes! But let's not forget about others.

Hypnotoad graciously 'got the ball rolling' with a vote for Leela. But really he didn't. He provided no insight at all. We had to rely on the Devil of all people to do that for us. Not good, Toady.

Yes, Leela voted Hypnotoad, so there is a face off of sorts here. But I am really finding it hard that Hypno really thinks Leela is scum. His intial attack on Leela really didn't have much substance. None of his posts really have, except when he posted about the times, I guess. Also I don't think he even knows what spaghetti logic means. To me, he seems like a guy taking orders or following in other people's leads.

This isn't my last post of the day, but I need a break. I've been reading and posting for last few hours and I need a break.

One thing I hate in mafia is when people don't vote. We've had waaaaaay too much of that. I also don't like that Leela has a nice 2 vote coushin right now. I think we need to get people scared. I really want to go after the inactives but a vote on one of them at this point wouldn't do much good. My next post was going to be about Bender but I need to get to them by the end of the night so I'll do them next. We need to get their necks on the line or they probably won't show themselves.

<b>##Vote: Hypnotoad</b>

[M] Anise
12-19-2008, 07:43 AM
Leela wasn't the easy option yesterday and I went after her then also. I also voted and argued for calculon.

Also if you are gonna listen to psy then we should go after you and leela. The two people who have voted for me. He brought up a lot on both of you and not to let you both weasle out of it. So lets not bring mom up ;D

[M] Dave – Stepdad
12-19-2008, 08:38 AM
To answer Devils question first. Though beeing a partly inactive character too I agree with you that Leelas defence on Fry seemed a little rash. (I´ll make a note here to look at Fry, if Leela turns out to be Mafia). The other point is her vote on the end of her attack on Calculon. Of course she could have waited which what I think would have been a more town-style of playing but at least she even cast a vote. Another thing for us to keep in mind is that I do not think that Day 2 was one of those days full of evidence on other Players. She simply used the best she could find.

The rest of your (lets say) quoting spree does not seem more accusing than incriminating on me though I´ll give the 2 points mentioned some credit.

I´ll now move on to Morbos sudden change of personality. There wasn´t much I thought about him before as he hasn´t been active at all until day 3. This new Morbo makes much more sense to me than the old one. A focus attack on Leela will of course get us to lynch her but I must admit that our evidence appears a bit weak. I can´t say much about the Blobs case. His multiple faction idea seemed to be some misplaced distraction to me and I´m still not sure that this should be put awa so lightly.

In his last post Morbos goes in on Hypnotoad who I mention in my posts to be of high suspicion. This is mainly because of his vote-and-leave strategy. Once Hypno came in and stated that this is based on her scummy behaviour or something like that. I must say that I am more on new-Morbos site here, thinking, that it looks like someone taking orders from another one.

Hence my vote today will be between Leela and Hypno not considering someone like Fry who I mentioned earlier to be suspicious if Leela turns Mafia or other ones.

[M] Dave – Stepdad
12-19-2008, 09:36 AM
Please ignore the "not" in the second paragraph.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-19-2008, 09:48 AM
Sorry guys, I lost track of time playing another game I am addicted to.

My time is short because I'm tired as hell so please forgive me if parts of this doesn't make sense. I wanted to get to the inactives and a couple others.

Bender, you aren't off the hook, even though you never posted today. I have plenty to say on you but that will have to wait I'm afraid.

Amy, got some stuff for you too but it will also have to wait. Some of your posts don't make any sense but at least you seem to be trying.

Robot Devil, while I think your analysis of Leela is flawed in some ways at least you are trying to do what we need to do and that's fire off shots to get more people involved. I wish you would have saved your vote for Leela for later, but that's ok.

Hypnotoad;2611429']Also if you are gonna listen to psy then we should go after you and leela. The two people who have voted for me. He brought up a lot on both of you and not to let you both weasle out of it. So lets not bring mom up ;D
Bring it. I have nothing to hide. Talking about everyone means talking about me and I'm fine with that.

If I were Robot Santa I would say the following people are on my naughty list:

Fry
Zoidberg
Zapp Branigan
Tinny Tim
Nibbler (though replaced I believe)
Hermes (though he was replaced)

We need more out of you. We will vote for you if you don't say anything.

Look for Zapp to come in, vote someone random, and leave. Maybe not today but at least tomorrow. What better way to never be suspected?

Fry has made all of 3 posts and that obviously ain't cutting it.
Votes are probably the only thing that will get them out of hiding, but it might be too late for today.

The rest have at least contributed something more than fluff on one of the days, but they still aren't playing like they should be.

Good night and good luck!

My vote stays on Hypno today. Time ran out and yours is the foulest taste in my mouth. I didn't like your response to what I said before and I probably won't like your response to this when I read it tomorrow. Someone is pulling your strings and I'd rather get the puppetmaster but I'll take the puppet for now.

[M] Eizen
12-19-2008, 10:50 AM
Morbo;2611442']Bender, you aren't off the hook, even though you never posted today. I have plenty to say on you but that will have to wait I'm afraid.

Considering I'll be in bed at day's end, maybe you should until tomorrow(game time).




Look for Zapp to come in, vote someone random, and leave. Maybe not today but at least tomorrow. What better way to never be suspected?

That's why I changed my vote from Mum to Zapp yesterday, and I'm voting him again.

##Vote: Zapp

[M] Al - Biker Dad
12-19-2008, 01:25 PM
Leela:


I'm not sure what to make of Morbo. I don't know about Fry, though Morbo's list does include a lot of players who at least have not been openly helping the town much. There have been replacements apparently but I still haven't seen much.

The point about Zapp is a good one. It's the same reason Hypnotoad is suspicious to me.

Mom said Hypnotoad was "easy." Well, we need a pretty quick win about now. I still haven't seen any non-Mom arguments against me with any real substance, and I think I've done a fair job of answering them despite not having made the posts I've been trying to justify (very difficult!). If we keep dallying around with no real plan, we're screwed. We've wasted a lot of time. At least "I" have been trying to help out this entire game, which is more than can be said about a lot of people. How much has Toad contributed? How much has anyone on Morbo's list?

I say we go after Hypnotoad today, and then take a close look at who hasn't really contributed anything to the actual discussion. We know at least some of the mafia's been active, so not-replaced. But they've been staying under the radar so far. Probably because we haven't been critical enough of the people not contributing anything or only contributing random votes. Hell, they haven't even been forced to do much since we've been busy killing ourselves.

Please, let's not screw around anymore. We need a win here. Hypnotoad's been allowed to get away with too much scummy behavior so far.

I still say Bender has been the most suspicious after that, though I may be going against my own advice there. Morbo and Bender both made good points against Zapp. Both of those two are worth looking into.

[M] Dave – Stepdad
12-19-2008, 01:53 PM
I still mistrust both of you but I have to leave now and day ends in about half an hour. I will go now with

##vote: Hypnotoad

and leave the decisive vote to you guys.

edczxcvbnm
12-19-2008, 02:13 PM
seeing as how I will probably die...i am the delivery hit thing. I deliver food at night and the food item ordered tell me something about who ordered it.

night 1 calculon. apple. an apple a day keeps the doctor away.

night 2 leela. spaghetti.

edczxcvbnm
12-19-2008, 02:18 PM
I figure this means mafia as both are italian.

night 3 nibbler. fish...I have no idea what this is suppose to mean...fishy?

sorry for double post but I am on the train and have limitations.

edit...this is hypnotoad

[M] Anise
12-19-2008, 03:31 PM
Still no one posted? Well the actual name of the role is Caterer.

I figure at this point, the town needs a kill. I didn't want to give the role away yet as this is an investigative type role and is potentially more powerful than the cop if there even is a cop in this game. But now I am dead during the night most likely without a protective role.

So I say go after leela and then tomorrow decide if nibbler's fish means he is mafia or not. The food is suppose to reflect the type of role they have so I don't know if fishy means god father or what have you.

I would also say Morbo is probably scum as well. Godspeed.

[M] Mom – Host
12-19-2008, 03:37 PM
Donbot:


Votecount

[M] Leela (3) - [M] Hypnotoad, [M] Robot Devil, [M] Zoidberg
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Lrrr, [M] Hermes
[M] Hypnotoad (3) - [M] Leela, [M] Amy, [M] Morbo
[M] Zapp Brannigan (1) - [M] Bender

Not voting: [M] Tinny Tim, [M] Zapp Brannigan, [M] Nibbler, [M] Fry, [M] Horrible Gelantinous Blob

38 min till the end of day 4.

[M] Anise
12-19-2008, 03:45 PM
How is that possible? 11.5 hours ago you said there were 10 hours left XD

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-19-2008, 03:47 PM
My scum suspicions
Leela
Amy
Morbo is a possobility.

[M] Mom – Host
12-19-2008, 03:48 PM
Donbot:



Donbot;2611373']Votecount

[M] Leela (3) - [M] Hypnotoad, [M] Robot Devil, [M] Zoidberg
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Lrrr, [M] Hermes
[M] Hypnotoad (1) - [M] Leela

~10 hours until the end of day 4.

Time stamp

2008-12-18, 10:14 PM

end: 2008-12-19, 8:14 AM

Day ended after final vote. Next tiebreaker will decide the kill.

[M] Mom – Host
12-19-2008, 03:52 PM
Donbot:



Donbot;2611521']Votecount

[M] Leela (3) - [M] Hypnotoad, [M] Robot Devil, [M] Zoidberg
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Lrrr, [M] Hermes
[M] Hypnotoad (3) - [M] Leela, [M] Amy, [M] Morbo
[M] Zapp Brannigan (1) - [M] Bender

Not voting: [M] Tinny Tim, [M] Zapp Brannigan, [M] Nibbler, [M] Fry, [M] Horrible Gelantinous Blob



Day 4 ended, next vote tiebreaker will decide the kill.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-19-2008, 03:55 PM
OK, we have a claimed cop type role that says he thinks Leela is scum against leela herself.

I know I have a vote on leela already, so I do have some bias, but I strongly urge the next person to vote to vote for Leela.

[M] Helo
12-19-2008, 04:03 PM
If Hypnotoad's roleclaim is accurate, then he will die tonight regardless. If we lynch Leela and she turns out to be town, then it would be wise to lynch Hypnotoad tomorrow.
##Vote: Leela
BTW guys, I'm a replacement. Nice to meet ya!

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
12-19-2008, 04:05 PM
I guess I will vote for Leela, because it wouldn't make much sense to vote for hypnotoad after that, although I dont understand his role. Sorry I havent been here, so in the morning I will try to make a good suspision list.

##Vote: Leela

Edit: Ahh beaten...

[M] Mom – Host
12-19-2008, 04:07 PM
Donbot:


Day ended, final votecount and flavour coming soon.

[M] Mom – Host
12-19-2008, 04:43 PM
Donbot:


Final Votecount

[M] Leela(4) - [M] Hypnotoad, [M] Robot Devil, [M] Zoidberg, [M] Tinny Tim
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Lrrr, [M] Hermes
[M] Hypnotoad (3) - [M] Leela, [M] Amy, [M] Morbo
[M] Zapp Brannigan (1) - [M] Bender

Not voting: [M] Zapp Brannigan, [M] Nibbler, [M] Fry, [M] Horrible Gelantinous Blob

------------------------------------

It was a tough day for Leela. She lost her favorite boots, no Fry to hit, and for some reason, people started throwing garbage at her.

Leela glared at the Toad. Having one eye, she could not be hypnotized by it.

"Hey there, cutie, how about we- AAH! AAAAAH! The eye, I didn't see it! But look at that handsome toad over there."
"Stupid toad, always having people say he's prettier than I am."

It was time for action! She took off her jacket and flashed it at the watching town.

"AAH! The color, it burns!"
"Outraged and in pain, I am!"
"is it for sale?"
"GET IT AWAY FROM ME!"

While the town was running away, Leela made her move. She jumped towards the toad, ready to make him into a fine french delicasy, But she didn't know Hypnotoad was actually a NINJA TOAD WITH AWSOME KICK ABSORBING TONGUE! As she gasped for air she turned to a little orphan.

"Help.. me.."
"By gollies, Mr. Toad, I think it needs to be tighter."

-------------------------------------

Leela died of tongue hypoxia, a fatal disease that deprives the body of oxygen by having a large tongue wrapped around your head.

[M] Leela was a Mafia Goon played by Lekana, replaced by Raistlin.

Hypnotoads Ninja actions was merely in-flavour, not based on his role.

Night starts now and lasts 12 hours. Night actions, if you will.

[M] Mom – Host
12-19-2008, 08:01 PM
Donbot:


Hypnotoad was slaving over he stove, or at least his slaves were(they got to wear clothes, no complaining!). The catering business was going well, even with the impending doom upon the town. Perhaps they didn't feel like cooking, or they just liked his food.

"Ocheart testicles.. mouse eyes.. and done. One fish sandwich.", Hypnotoad croaked as he heard a ding.

He looked around, no one was there. He send a slave to go check at the front desk and went to check on the cooked Zoidberg lobster when he heard a thumb. Swinging around as fast as his tiny legs would allow(which took several minutes), he caught naught but a grotesk blur as he fell into the pot.

---------------------------------

The next morning the townmen were enjoying a nice brunch, to get to know each other a little better, and slip the poison less obviously. It was a nice bouillon, courtesy of Hypnotoad catering business.

All was well.

Until someone found Hypnotoads eye in the bouillon. Of course, this didn't stop him from finished the soup before yelling "Outraged and ashamed, I am!".

Hypnotoad was a Caterer, played by edczxcvbnm. Thanks for not ruining the game, ed. ^__^

Day 5 starts now, and lasts 24 hours.

[M] Eizen
12-19-2008, 09:07 PM
For the record, this is a complete list of Zapps posts.


Zapp Brannigan;2608564']Who are all the characters that were cut because of too few signups?


Zapp Brannigan;2608580']Wrong show. HERMES IS SO COOL, ONE OF MY FAVORITES CHARACTERS.

Bender is scum. With all that prostitution and kleptomania, it only makes sense.


Zapp Brannigan;2608590']Psychologically uncontrollable thievery.


Zapp Brannigan;2609356']

I come back to see two townies killed. You're all scum.


Zapp Brannigan;2610458']Inactive voting an inactive!

##Vote: Amy

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-19-2008, 09:21 PM
Ok well I guess I know what spaghetti logic means now. :laugh:

Now that I know Hypno (wasn't he Hypno in the pokemon game?) was ed it makes a lot more sense. ed annoys the crap out of me when he plays. I guess this was...better, but still annoying enough for me to get blinded by it.

Hypno's last clue was Nibbler the fish eater. Mafia makes people sleep with the fishies? Maybe. Nibbler tried to get the deciding vote on Leela but Tinny beat him to it. However that came within 2 minutes. So I'm leaning towards not mafia here.

Also since we have a confirmed mafia we should go back through Leela's posts and see if she left any hints about her partners. I have so much to talk about that hasn't been said so I'll leave that to others and fill any holes that I think they left.

Tinny Tim was the deciding vote on Leela and he could have easily gone the other way if he was mafia. So I don't think Tinny Tim is anything to worry about today.

Right now I want to take a look at Fry. Fry didn't vote on Day 2, Day 3, or Day 4. He didn't post on Days 3 or 4. According to AK's rule changes that means he should be either dead or replaced. There has not been any notification of a replacement and he's not dead. Therefore I don't think he's actually inactive. The mods would know a mafia was inactive more than if a town was because they have a secret forum somewhere where they conduct their shady business. So no reason to replace someone who is actually logging in, right?

Right now my vote is on Fry. We need to find out more about this guy. If he lays low we could easily tear each other apart and his hands would never get dirty.

Zapp too for that matter but right now I'll stick with Fry and see where the day leads.

<b>##Vote: Fry</b>

[M] Elize
12-19-2008, 09:31 PM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


That is good evidence against Fry, Morbo, but I'm not sure I'm entirely convinced...

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-19-2008, 09:35 PM
Well, my job isn't to convince everyone on Fry. Look at the evidence and make your own conclusion. I have and that's my conclusion.

Please don't make this day about Fry now that I voted for him. Gunning for one person after someone votes them is not a good idea. I only voted because voting is the BEST way to get someone's attention. And I want Fry's.

[M] Eizen
12-19-2008, 09:43 PM
I see your point about Fry, but isn't possible that maybe they cant find a replacement for him.

[M] Mom – Host
12-19-2008, 09:46 PM
Donbot:


There are no more replacements. He slipped under the wire on day three. After today he will either be replaced or killed.

Jessweeee♪
12-19-2008, 09:47 PM
Fun Fact: For Fry's avatar I took the first custom avatar I used on EoFF and put a black background on it. The rest were made by WulfyGirl :</>D!

[M] Eizen
12-19-2008, 09:51 PM
Donbot;2611679']There are no more replacements. He slipped under the wire on day three. After today he will either be replaced or killed.

If there are no more replacements, how is he going to be replaced?

Jessweeee♪
12-19-2008, 09:52 PM
Then he'll be killed.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-19-2008, 11:02 PM
Donbot;2611679']There are no more replacements. He slipped under the wire on day three. After today he will either be replaced or killed.
Fry hasn't made a post since day 2. No votes since day 1. He didn't do anything on day 3, unless it was in a forum we can't see. According to your rule changes posted on Day 3 he should have been replaced or killed for inactivity on Night 4 and you cannot deny this.

The problem with replacements is that what's stopping them from going inactive again once they are replaced? If that strategy has been working for them then what prevents the replacement from using it?

This discussion is probably best taken to the signup thread. I am at least satisfied to know that Fry will be killed or replaced at the end of the day if he doesn't get to posting. I wish this could have been done sooner but that's the way it goes.

I have bigger fish to fry (no pun intended) so I'm going to switch votes now.

<b>##Unvote: Fry
##Vote: Zapp</b>

Zapp you are just active enough to not arouse modkill status, yet, as Bender has shown, you are providing nothing to our discussions. How convienent for you. You will be a tougher nut to crack since you have actually made posts, but I hope some vote(s) on you will get you out of your shell.

[M] Mom – Host
12-19-2008, 11:19 PM
Donbot:



Morbo;2611715']
Donbot;2611679']There are no more replacements. He slipped under the wire on day three. After today he will either be replaced or killed.
Fry hasn't made a post since day 2. No votes since day 1. He didn't do anything on day 3, unless it was in a forum we can't see. According to your rule changes posted on Day 3 he should have been replaced or killed for inactivity on Night 4 and you cannot deny this.

The problem with replacements is that what's stopping them from going inactive again once they are replaced? If that strategy has been working for them then what prevents the replacement from using it?



Stop twisting my words, or I'll use the clamps on you. On day three I said that anyone who had not made two posts(you had zero, Fry had one) would be replaced, and anyone who hadn't voted once in three days.

Fry posted twice that day, and he voted once on day 1.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
12-19-2008, 11:35 PM
Ok then, This might take a while... Im gonna go in order of who posted the most, because I will first be using the who posted thingy...

Blob: Look at all of his posts. They say almost nothing at all, but he has posted the most... He said he had anxiety disorder, which may be true, but it does seem pretty damn convenient... He posted something about how everyone thinks stupid=scum, which seems to be a way he is trying to cover his crappy posts up, a good few times... I really dont like him, he might be trying to post a lot so we know he isnt laying low, but saying nothing so he doesnt get on anyones bad side. I am guessing Godfather.

Bender: said his internet is breaking, which may be so he can have an excuse if he ever needs to lie low, but I doubt it. He said he didnt like what Mom said about going after inactives, and soon changes his vote to Zapp, an inactive... Hasn't said much, but has said a hell of a lot more than Blob. I am guessing town or smartish mafia.

Database error:mad2:

Edit: and its over already... Oh well thats a taste of whats to come I guess...

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
12-20-2008, 12:21 AM
Robot Devil: Has made some good arguments, Said something really smart about Morbo, here...
Robot Devil;2611301']Santa, OMG he killed the doctor = scum. What about Leela? She also attacked Calculon, but not a mention about her.. Is pretty smart and voted for Leela, a mafia. I am guessing Good town.

Lrrr: I got nothing on him. He seems smart and has made some arguments and such, so I think hes ok. I am guessing Town.

Morbo: Oh yes... This part here is creditted to Robot Devil...
Robot Devil;2611301']Santa, OMG he killed the doctor = scum. What about Leela? She also attacked Calculon, but not a mention about her.We all know Leela was a mafia, so I think Morbo was not talking about Leela because she is one of his scum-buddies. He later comments about Leela but urges us not to lynch her too quick. Maybe he was trying to give her time to think something up and also try to clear himself a little if Leela is lynched. My guess is mafia or really unlucky town.

Amy: I dont really have mush on her either. She hasnt really posted enough for me to see anything much... I have no guess...

Tim: Hasnt said much, but seems ok to me. I am guessing town.

Hermes, Zoidberg, Zapp, and Fry: Inactives...:mad2: I am guessing FAIL!

I dont think I missed anyone...

I will vote Blob I guess, because he really is the most suspicious to me, with Morbo coming close behind...

##Vote: Blob

[M] Elize
12-20-2008, 12:41 AM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


Nibbler, frankly, you are in a glass house throwing stones. You post in numbers I can count on one hand each day and then complainh of the lack of substance of my posts?

I'm sorry, looks like a foundless argument to me.

##Vote-Nibbler

Maybe next time when you complain about my posting, actually post a bit more, k? So, I say dumb and pointless things. Yay for me, you've said nothing of real importance except for bash me for something absolutely absurd.

Post Stupid Stuff=Scum?

Hey, at least I post. Saying dumb stuff is not a Mafia ploy, I simply lack logic skills. =p

Blech, what faulty logic. My vote stands.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
12-20-2008, 12:47 AM
Hello Blob! Coming out as soon as you are mentioned eh? And why did you get so much more defensive with me than with every other person that went against you? Did I happen to be right?

[M] Elize
12-20-2008, 12:48 AM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


Well, I look through the thread on my normal account and saw a silly argument against me and a foundless vote.

Since your accusation is crude and illogical, if it was true, then I am a blue apple.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-20-2008, 12:52 AM
Blob, Nibbler was the deciding vote on Leela. It would be a really tough sell to say that his vote was a mafia ploy when the other victim was an investigation role.

Nibbler could just very well be an idiot. But idiot does not equal mafia.

You don't strike me as such a bright fellow yourself so I don't know if you just don't realize what's going on here or you are just trying to save your red ass.

[M] Elize
12-20-2008, 12:54 AM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


Oops, I thought it was Tinny Tim. =(

Soooory.

Oh, not bright! =(

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
12-20-2008, 12:58 AM
Actually, Blob is right. I didnt have the deciding vote. It was Tim that had it.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-20-2008, 01:13 AM
Oh yes, I made a mistake. They came so close in time and the posts were right next to each other. My apologies. Still, it's hard to believe that Nibbler showed up right at the deadline and voted his mafia pal out 2 minutes after the tie had been cast just to look good. Could have been a ninja edit but that's risky and also going down a conspiracy theory path that doesn't usually lead to good conclusions.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-20-2008, 01:33 AM
No one has talked about Bender for a while, so let's do him.

I noticed some things on Bender when I was doing my catch up yesterday but I forgot most of it. :( And I'm not about to go sift through 400 posts again to try and remember it. Maybe later depending on time and circumstances.

Mom was kind enough to summarize Bender's earlier posts <a href="http://forums.eyesonff.com/2610197-post211.html">here</a>.

I'll just reiterate the argument she already provided. That being Bender has been popping in at convienent times (during activity of others) to make a couple general statements and then leave. No real discussion taking place.

Let's move on to votes. Bender voted for Zapp, twice, in the last two days. No other votes on the other days. Though I applaud his effort to try and bring out the inactives, Zapp was a very safe person to have a vote on since he doesn't say much and no one else even mentions him. Avoids the big discussion of the day but still stays 'active'.

Yes, I do realize my vote is currently on Zapp. Once again I can't fault the idea behind it. However, a campaign to get inactives up and about needs to come with some level of grandstanding, which I hope I have been accomplishing here. One vote for an inactive under the radar does nothing, and that's what Bender has been doing.

I'm tempted to switch my vote to call Bender out now since I think he's the most likely to be lurking this thread, but something is telling me that would not be the right move. I guess I'll leave it as Zapp and see where it goes. Plenty of day left.

More people post!

[M] Helo
12-20-2008, 02:19 AM
Something unexpected has come up, and I will probably miss most of today. However, I'll try and find access to the internet later tonight to try and assist the good townsfolk.

Right now my suspicions are on Zapp and Fry, both of which have not posted a whole lot. It is possible that the mafia are all active, but this would be risky as it increases the chance one of them will slip up. If I get the opportunity tonight, I'll post more detailed thoughts on everyone.

For now I'm going to
##Vote: Zapp

Fry is likely to be modkilled, so it would be a wasted vote.

[M] Eizen
12-20-2008, 03:11 AM
Just got back online.


Nibbler;2611733']

Bender: said his internet is breaking, which may be so he can have an excuse if he ever needs to lie low, but I doubt it.

Good thing you doubt it, as I already said that I fixed it by clearing out my cookies.


He said he didnt like what Mom said about going after inactives, and soon changes his vote to Zapp, an inactive... Hasn't said much, but has said a hell of a lot more than Blob. I am guessing town or smartish mafia.

The first time was because I wanted to unvote Mum but still have a vote. Don't remember why I did it a second time.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-20-2008, 03:56 AM
Another pretty vote count
Day 1
[M] President Nixon (2) - [M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob, [M] Professor Farnsworth
[M] Professor Farnsworth (3) - [M] Calculon, [M] Fry, [M] Scruffy
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (1) - [M]President Nixon

Day 2

[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Calculon, [M] Hypnotoad
[M] Calculon (3) - [M] Mom, [M] Leela, [M] Robot Santa

Day 3

[M] Leela (1) - [M] Hypnotoad
[M] Morbo (0) - <S>[M] Mom</S>
[M] Mom (4) - [M] Tinny Tim, [M] Nibbler, [M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob, [M] Amy, <S>[M] Bender</S>
[M] Robot Santa (4) - [M] Morbo, [M] Leela. [M] Mom, [M] Robot Santa
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Lrrr, [M] Zoidberg
[M] Amy (1) - [M] Zapp Brannigan
[M] Zapp Brannigan (1) - [M] Bender

[M] Leela(4) - [M] Hypnotoad, [M] Robot Devil, [M] Zoidberg, [M] Tinny Tim
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Lrrr, [M] Hermes
[M] Hypnotoad (3) - [M] Leela, [M] Amy, [M] Morbo
[M] Zapp Brannigan (1) - [M] Bender

I'll run some stats of what % of each voters votes were for a townie or a mafia or none at all in the next post. Day 5 won't be included because nothing is confirmed yet.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-20-2008, 04:12 AM
I would make this into a pretty table but I'm too lazy.
Also funny note, all voters from day 2 are dead.
Morbo
50% No Vote Days 1&2(Was then replaced)
50% Town 3&4
Amy
50% No Vote 1&2
50% Inactive 3&4
Bender
50% No Vote 1&2
50% Unknown 3&4
Fry
25% Town 1
75% No Vote 2&3&4
Horrible Blob
50% Town 1&3
50% No Vote 2&4
Robot Devil
75% No Vote 1&2&3 (Was then replaced)
25% mafia 4
Hermes
75% No Vote 1&2&3 (Was then replaced I think)
25% Unknown 4
Zoidberg
50% No Vote 1&2
25% Unknown 3
25% Mafia 4
Nibbler
75% No Vote 1&2&4 (Replaced day 3, missed day 4 vote by ~2 min)
25% Town 3
Lrrr
50% No Vote 1&2
50% Unknown 3&4
Tinny Tim
50% No Vote 1&2
25% Town 3
25% Mafia 4 (Replacement)
Zapp
75% No Vote 1&2&4
25% Unknown 3

Not a lot of info from that, but making it gave me a suspicion about Miss Amy. I'll make a new post for that suspicion.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-20-2008, 04:23 AM
Amy is playing a pretty easy game. She is inactive for a couple days, then throws easy votes out then vanishes. This post here looks quite fun to rip, so lets go

Amy;2611435']To answer Devils question first. Though beeing a partly inactive character too I agree with you that Leelas defence on Fry seemed a little rash. (I´ll make a note here to look at Fry, if Leela turns out to be Mafia). The other point is her vote on the end of her attack on Calculon. Of course she could have waited which what I think would have been a more town-style of playing but at least she even cast a vote. Another thing for us to keep in mind is that I do not think that Day 2 was one of those days full of evidence on other Players. She simply used the best she could find.

The rest of your (lets say) quoting spree does seem more accusing than incriminating on me though I´ll give the 2 points mentioned some credit.

I´ll now move on to Morbos sudden change of personality. There wasn´t much I thought about him before as he hasn´t been active at all until day 3. This new Morbo makes much more sense to me than the old one. A focus attack on Leela will of course get us to lynch her but I must admit that our evidence appears a bit weak. I can´t say much about the Blobs case. His multiple faction idea seemed to be some misplaced distraction to me and I´m still not sure that this should be put awa so lightly.

In his last post Morbos goes in on Hypnotoad who I mention in my posts to be of high suspicion. This is mainly because of his vote-and-leave strategy. Once Hypno came in and stated that this is based on her scummy behaviour or something like that. I must say that I am more on new-Morbos site here, thinking, that it looks like someone taking orders from another one.

Hence my vote today will be between Leela and Hypno not considering someone like Fry who I mentioned earlier to be suspicious if Leela turns Mafia or other ones.
Paragraph 1, she agrees that my attack on Leela is valid, but then says she justifies Leela's vote. Mentions Fry twice.

Then she moves onto Morbo, who was replaced.Supports him. Defends Leela again. Attacks Blob.

Paragraph 4 attacks Hypno-toad for vote&leave. More Morbo love.

quick closer, mentions Fry again.

Now we have her vote post. She says she mistrusts Leela and Toad, then votes alongside Leela. That makes no sense.

##Vote: Amy

[M] D'Anna
12-20-2008, 04:59 AM
Lrrr:


So we bagged a scum, but at the cost of a power role. Not much of a fair trade off though.

Anyways as for the whole "Let's ignore Nibbler he threw a vote on Leela last minute!" really troubles me. Maybe I'm just overly paranoid, but I don't see it as a good reason to just ignore him so much and call him town so readily. It very well could be he threw that vote out since it was obvious Leela was dead already, if we didn't lynch her yesterday because of the tie, she was going down hard today because of Hypnotoads investigation. Someone asked why would he vote off scum if he was one? Yet no one thought about what if Blob were scum as well as many think he could be? Yesterday our 2 big scum candidates were Blob and Leela, if we're right and both were scum, then the logical conclusion is that Blob is a power role for mafia.

But of course that's speculation, it just bothers me a lot everyone quickly just brushes him off for a last minute vote against a mafia who we all knew was dead to begin with whether it be today or tomorrow.

Remember Hypnotoad said Nibbler got Fish. Though we don't have much to go off of since he didn't reveal all his results and what a Vanilla Townie would end up getting. Take whatever you want out of this since there's many holes and little info to go on. But I don't think counting Nibbler out entirely is a wise action to take. There is still probably a good 3 more scum out there with at least 1 power role.

As far as other people, Fry just seems inactive to me if he's about to be modkilled. So I'm thinking there's a good chance he's just a bored Vanilla Townie.

On the other hand we have Hermes, Bender, Zapp, Zoidberg and Amy who all play under the radar. Now SOME of you have to be town, so if you are get your asses in here and contribute. Now is the time for the town to start laying things on the table and contributing, otherwise we'll be chasing after ourselves while the Mafia bag another kill.

Tinny Tim also bugs me for the same reasons as the above, and with his final vote on Leela, the possibility I mentioned with Nibbler also applies to him (i.e. we got the vote between 2 scum so he went and finished off his scum who we knew was gonna die soon to look good or possibly off the goon and not the power role), early on he did a big Spaghetti Plating post involving everyone. It bugged me a little but it wasn't as bad as most Spaghetti Plating where they say nothing, since he did really contribute a little bit with it. It just irked me no one called him out on it earlier.

Alrighty then, let's get this ball rolling! :D

[M] Helo
12-20-2008, 06:25 AM
I managed to find internet here, yay! Alright, apparently posting thoughts on everyone is "spaghetti plating", and I have no idea what that means. That being said, I'm going to give my thoughts on who I find most suspicious.

First of all, Fry. Fry has made very minimal posts and those we've received haven't helped at all. If Fry is town, he's not being very useful. That being said, it's likely Fry will be modkilled tonight and so any votes on him would be wasted. Let's just hope he's scum.

Zapp is in the same boat, with few posts that don't really assist the town. I just get the feeling that Zapp is scum, moreso than any other inactive. I don't know how much weight you all place in gut feelings though.

Haven't seen much of Zoidberg or Hermes, so I can't comment on them. Though it is possible one or both of them are scum laying low, but I just don't get bad vibes from them.

I'm undecided which of Lrrr and Blob are most suspicious to me. They are both fairly active posters, and I feel that one of them is using that as a way to hide. I can't decide who, if either of them, is scum.

It would make sense if the mafia killed off the helpful townies, so closer examination of the most active members could help find scum. That being said, don't ignore the inactives or those in between, the mafia could be anyone.

I have to run now, but I'll try and get back later on and see what else I can think of. Good hunting!

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-20-2008, 07:46 AM
In regards to Amy, I do agree with the points Devil is making. Calling out Leela and then voting with her is kind of strange. Her two main suspects, Hypno and Leela, did vote for each other, so she'd be siding with one either way, but she picked the wrong side! I'd really like to hear what she has to say about that. She's at least semi active so if she doesn't show up I think we can assume she is avoiding the issue.

Lrrr, I'm understand your point on Nibbler, but it's still a stretch. Timmy though, I don't think so. We can't ever be 100% sure on anyone but I find it really hard to believe that the mafia would kill off one of their own rather than the Caterer (once he claimed) just to look good. Timmy's vote was the decider (I was wrong earlier) so I'd say he's off the hook for today.

As for Nibbler, the times were so close that I find it hard to believe. But I do agree that a fish result from Hypno is, obviously, fishy. Nibbler hasn't even addressed that yet. He's made an arguemt for Blob who has already been suspected and could be an easy vote, and when it came to the inactives just called them 'FAIL' without any attempt to put pressure on them. I call those minor things though.

Tinny Tim, thanks for making some posts but I wish you'd post more. You're one of the people I think is least likely to be mafia so I really want to hear more of what you have to say.

[M] Helo
12-20-2008, 10:23 AM
And back. I'm sorry I haven't posted much, but I'll try and be more active.

Hypnotoad left us with Nibbler = fish. This is the only bit of solid evidence we have to work on, but the meaning is still unknown. The link should be fairly obvious, like the apple and spaghetti links were. This leads me to believe that Nibbler is scum.

Leela would not have escaped prosecution today had Hypnotoad been lynched. There were still enough voters against Leela to ensure her demise today, so I believe that Nibbler tried to cast the final vote in order to look innocent.

I understand that this argument could very well be used on me, but I was urged to vote by Donbot as soon as I took over the account, and wholeheartedly believed that Hypnotoad's roleclaim was accurate. That is why I voted for Leela, and we got our first scum.

I'm going to leave my vote as is for now, until I can find some more evidence against somebody else.

[M] Helo
12-20-2008, 10:25 AM
Also, if anyone still supports Robot Santa's idea that one of the Day 1 voters is mafia, then it's between Fry and Blob. I'm not in favour of this theory however, as the evidence shows the town basically turning on itself.

[M] Helo
12-20-2008, 02:18 PM
I wish to ask a quick question about Nibbler's vote on Leela.

It is quite possible that you can argue either of us were casting the deciding vote to look innocent. However, I have found something quite odd, Nibblers post (http://forums.eyesonff.com/general-chat/121890-mafia-xii-game-thread-day-5-hypnotoads-last-meal-8.html#post2611537) doesn't have the 'Last edited' stamp on the bottom of his post.
e.g. "Last edited by [M] Donbot; 12-19-2008 at 11:44 AM.. "
Why is this not visible if he has written an edit in the post?


Nibbler;2611537']I guess I will vote for Leela, because it wouldn't make much sense to vote for hypnotoad after that, although I dont understand his role. Sorry I havent been here, so in the morning I will try to make a good suspision list.

##Vote: Leela

Edit: Ahh beaten...

Does this mean that Nibbler edited the post while writing the original, admitting that I had actually posted before he had?
If so, what was the point in posting the vote other than attempting to make himself look innocent?

I'm not sure how the post edits work, so it would be nice to know.

[M] Joe - Army Dad
12-20-2008, 03:05 PM
I'm not scum! :mad2:

[M] Helo
12-20-2008, 03:07 PM
Please be active and assist the town then Zapp. A useful member is less likely to be lynched imho.

[M] Joe - Army Dad
12-20-2008, 03:16 PM
Tinny Tim;2611956']Please be active and assist the town then Zapp. A useful member is less likely to be lynched imho.I kinda regret signing up for mafia now. I'm not as available as I wish I could be, but I was so excited about the theme!

I'm still trying to get all caught-up again, but every time I have something to say, it's either too late or someone's already said it. :mad2:

[M] Helo
12-20-2008, 03:24 PM
That's alright, state your opinion anyway. It's unfortunate you couldn't post as often, but don't regret it. You've made the game challenging, which is always good fun :)

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
12-20-2008, 03:29 PM
If you edit a post within I think 5 minutes, it doesnt show the last edited thingy.

And about the fish thing... What is there to say? The only thing I can say about it is some idiotic theory that sucks.

And Hello Zapp! Tim is right. Post your opinion even if someone already did. We wont be mad at you unless it is a 100% obvious copy.

[M] Helo
12-20-2008, 03:32 PM
Thank you, I wasn't sure and didn't want to seem too accusing if I was wrong. I guess it's back to the drawing board for ideas now, I'll keep you posted :)

[M] Helo
12-20-2008, 05:21 PM
Mr Donbot sir, would it be possible to get a vote count and time update?
Thank you kindly :)

[M] Mom – Host
12-20-2008, 05:45 PM
Donbot:


Yup, one second. I just got back.

[M] Helo
12-20-2008, 05:48 PM
I hope wherever you were was enjoyable :D

[M] Mom – Host
12-20-2008, 05:51 PM
Donbot:


I was visiting my grandfather who's kindney's were failing(He'll be alright, hopefully). So no.

...

Cute nurses though.

Votecount

[M] Fry (0) - [M] Morbo
[M] Zapp Brannigan (2) - [M] Morbo, [M] Tinny Tim
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (1) - [M] Nibbler
[M] Nibbler (1) - [M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob
[M] Amy (1) - [M] Robot Devil

not voting: [M] Fry, [M] Amy, [M] Zapp Brannigan, [M] Zoidberg, [M] Hermes

2 hours and 10 minutes until the end of the day.

[M] Helo
12-20-2008, 05:54 PM
I'm very sorry to hear that, best wishes to him. The cute nurses should pep him up though, never fear!

Thanks for the votecount :)

[M] Helo
12-20-2008, 06:15 PM
Those people who are inactive, start posting theories. If you aren't helping the town then you're no better than the mafia themselves. Also, get some votes up there guys. I won't be around for the lynch, but let's hope we get scum.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-20-2008, 07:39 PM
OK, with Nibber ordering a fish, the only things that come to my mind are
Vanilla Townie from being so random.
Burglar. cat burglar, and cats like fish?
Mafia member, fishy like hypnotoad said.

Next I'll say that voting off Zapp is not a good idea, because we need to preassure him into posting more. Active town is better then dead town, and active mafia are easier to expose. Also Fry's player is going to robot hell.

Which leads me to our green friend Morbo. Why specifically Zapp when we have others? Could it be you are caliming to inactive hunt, but simply wait to see if other people vote the same as you and you watch the town kill itself?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-20-2008, 07:45 PM
Also a really bad way to vote is saying

"I'll vote for this person because they need to post more" then voting. What good does that do to anybody? Go after semiactives if you want to stir activity, while at the same time stir up a desire for the inacives to do something. Here is a list of what I would rate for activity levels.

Active
Morbo
Robot Devil
Lrrr
Pretty Active
Tinny Tim
Nibbler
Semi Active
Bender
Amy
Zoidberg
Inactive
Hermes
Fry

Pretty active is a grey area that is between an active poster and semi active posters. I feel that the best place for most scum to hide is the semi active area, so thats my main focus.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
12-20-2008, 07:49 PM
Whoops, forgot to but Zapp on that list. I rate him as inactive.

So saying that I find semi active is where I like to look, lets take a look at Mr Bender this time.

All Bender does is his little Banters, then votes Zapp twice and vanishes. You claim to have better internet, so tell us who you think is most suspicious and vote for that person.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-20-2008, 07:57 PM
Ok we're getting down to the wire so I'll try to make this quick.

Of the inactives I found Zapp the most likely to be a hiding scum based on his posting habits. I was hoping that votes on him, which eventually put him in the lead, would cause him to surface and say something substantial. He did surface but didn't do much of anything. I don't think we're ever going to get much out of him which really sucks. It's like a shot in the dark for him.

My real suspect for the day is Bender, and I hope I got on in time to do this. I really want to vote Bender but this puts us as a 5 way tie with one vote a piece and you can bet your bottom that they aren't all mafia. That leaves any lurking mafia to break the tie.

Ah well, let's have a record for ties.

<b>##Unvote: Zapp
##Vote: Bender</b>

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-20-2008, 08:03 PM
Devil we're probably the only other one on right now and I don't think you're scum so I'd like to hear what you think we should do.

I do think Bender is the most likely scum for what you said and what I and Mom have posted before. I was going to get on earlier today and vote him but I got sidetracked. But I don't want to keep this dangerous tie on for long. I'd rather take a shot at Zapp or Amy and have a chance at hitting scum rather than wait for a mafia to sneak in and ninja vote.

Of the other inactives I didn't vote Zoidberg because he voted for Leela and that puts him below the rest. Hermes was replaced and I thought he had posted more but he really hasn't said anything in a while.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-20-2008, 08:09 PM
Well time's up according to Donbot's last post so there isn't much more we can do.

I hate these two or three vote lynches. But I'd rather face the devil I know than the devil I don't know.

Sorry Zapp but your posting habits have not helped us in any way. Maybe you are a scumbag hiding and we will find out shortly.

If I die in the night please take a look at what I have said about others, especially Bender but don't make it all about him in case I was wrong.

<b>##Unvote: Bender
##Vote: Zapp</b>

[M] Mom – Host
12-20-2008, 08:11 PM
Donbot:


Day closed at 2:01 pm, sry morbo

Zapp the Vanilla Townie is dead. He was played by Yaridovich. Flavor coming eventually.

[M] Mom – Host
12-21-2008, 03:33 AM
Donbot:


*warning! not for younger eyes.*

Final votecount

Votecount

[M] Fry (0) - [M] Morbo
[M] Zapp Brannigan (2) - [M] Morbo, [M] Tinny Tim
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (1) - [M] Nibbler
[M] Nibbler (1) - [M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob
[M] Amy (1) - [M] Robot Devil
[M] Bender (1) - [M] Morbo

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Zapp Brannigan, Captain of the starship Nimbus, ready to send wave after wave of his own men to do anything to get the job done... was chick hunting in a bar.

Aye, it had been a tense few days. All those murders, he couldn't help but be an nearly inactive asshole. but what you gonna do? He walked into the nearest bar, saying just the right things.

"Hey baby, if you haven't seen my thingie yet, would you give it a little youknow?"
"If I gave you a penny, would you balance it on your head while I take your clothes off?"
"You must have fallen from heaven, because I can totally see under your skirt."
"I've slept with your mom, wanna come back to my place and let me compare?"

Nothing was working. Until he came by a lady of the finest sort. The miniskirt, sagged chest and a love for the cheap kind of sigarettes made her almost not a hooker. Brannigan did what Brannigan did best, he poured a fine bowl of very seductive talk.. and he paid.

While Brannigan brought her back to his deluxe suite(it just wasn't the same without Kif licking the furniture) he started plowing like there was no tomorrow. When the martini was done, he got to work. At that moment, the holodeck malfunctioned, bringing loose a bunch of angry pregnant women and for some reason, that lawyer from CSI.

Brannigan was beaten to a pulp by the women pregnant with his baby, but he just kept going(he was that much of a man). Plus, it wasn't often he got to take off the velour costume. He had to make it all it could be. So what if he lost an eye.. and a spleen, or perhaps a few kidneys.

The lawyer just went to nearest bar and ordered a captain & coke.

------------------------------------------

Zapp Brannigan died of genital JIV(Johnsen Incapacitating Virus). A terrible disease that makes it fall off. With nothing to live for, he took his own life by beating himself over and over with a soggy grapefruit. At least it was a quick death.

Zapp Brannigan was a Vanilla Townie, played by Yaridovich.

Night starts now and lasts 12 hours. Send in the night actions, if you will.

Del Murder
12-21-2008, 04:20 AM
Hmm, not sure how appropriate that scene is for Eyes on Final Fantasy!

[M] Mom – Host
12-21-2008, 05:42 PM
Donbot:


Robot devil was laying awake that night, thinking about the deaths, when suddenly everything became clear. Who the Mafia was, and where they were hiding.

He couldn't wait for the night to be over, he had to act now. He gathered up the townsfolk and headed to their hideout.

"Come out, now! We know you are in there!"
"No, we're not!"
"Shut up, idiot."
"Fine, we'll come out."

As the mafia headed out of their hideout, the town, with robot devil in the lead headed towards hell. As Robot Devil entered his home, he felt blind with power once more.

"Hit it, boys, and don't miss that note 200 years in."

Sound Lantern - Robot Devil Death song (http://www.soundlantern.com/UpdatedSoundPage.do?ToId=25619#)

As the song ended, Robot Devil woke up in a dark storage shed, in some kind of metal contraption. A large shrouded figure was in front of him.

"We know you've been watching us. And we knew you'd figure it out eventually. This device let us know when that time had come. I'm afraid you'll have to disappear."

"I can't disappear! I haven't sung the Cresendo yet!"

"Well, my grapefruit went missing, so we're all having a bad day."

-------------------------------------

The next morning, Robot Devil was found beaten to death by a solid gold fiddle. A smaller silver fiddle appeared to be missing.

[M] Robot Devil was a Vanilla Townie, played by Blue Harvest, then replaced after day 3 by qwertysora. Thanks for playing!

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[M] Fry was found to be repeatedly smashed over the head by a few extremely irritable Mods for being an inactive Smurf.

[M] Fry was played by f f freak, was a Vanilla Townie, and is not thanked for NOT playing.

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Day 6 starts now and lasts 24 hours.

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

[M] Apollo
12-21-2008, 05:44 PM
Me neither!

[M] Elize
12-21-2008, 06:09 PM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


EPIC KILL!

Alright guys, looks like we are in the Slammer right now. I think we need to get together and smurfing get Mafia. I think we should target Bender. He's virtually useless to us in terms of cracking Mafia, and everyday he barely escapes lynching. Think about it, every game there's some sort of barely active mafian who stays under the radar, rides logic coattails, andwe (the town) gets are asses served to us. He's useless ans scummy to me.

##Vote-Bender

[M] D'Anna
12-21-2008, 06:36 PM
Lrrr:


Robot Devil. :(

Oh HI BLoB! That first post just screams scum and sucmmier to me. Yes Bender has been flying under the radar, yes he has been posting enough to be noticed, yes he hasn't been worthwhile and was a target for today anyways, why the sudden urge to vote him off (attempted speed lynch?)

Anyways I had a lot thought out last night and I lost it since it took forever for night actions to go through, but I wanted to talk about Nibbler some since that fish finding bugged me some.

The only possible roles in play that I figured he could be based on that would be...

Miller (Fishy since cops get wrong results)
Death Miller (Same as Miller, but also shows up scum when they die)
Godfather (Fishy since they throw off cops)
Traitor (They are revealed as town, but really work for mafia)

And Robot Devils Burglar idea seems plausible too.

Of those though, Miller and Godfather only work if there's a cop in play, and if there is one then they haven't found scum yet is my guess and they haven't revealed themselves.

Of course there's also the possibility that he's a role we have yet to see in play or we went about thinking about the clue wrong.

Also Zoidberg! Post something constructive lest you want to go the way of Zapp.

[M] Elize
12-21-2008, 06:40 PM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


His motives aren't clear enough to us he can't post them, Lrrr!

[M] D'Anna
12-21-2008, 06:42 PM
Lrrr:


What'cha talking 'bout <s>Willis</s> BloB?

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-21-2008, 07:08 PM
After reading through some of the Devil's posts I think he had some good things to say about Bender and Amy. Both are in the 'semi-active' category and post just enough to provide input but most of it either doesn't make sense or is just restating what others have said.

I wish I had more to say on the issue but this inactive town is bugging the crap out of me and has lead to two more unnecessary deaths. Zapp could have been avoided if he ever posted something useful. If we lose it will be because of people like them.

Lrr makes some good points about the possible role of Nibbler. I guess we can't ignore that fish. But I'd like to hear a response to that from Nibbler before I make up my mind on him.

Bender has a vote and I don't want to risk a speed lynch so early in the day by giving him another. Right now I'll vote for Devil's final vote of Amy. Maybe he was killed because he was on to her, or maybe it was because of Bender. Or they could be working together.

<b>##Vote: Amy</b>

We should hear from everyone but now that they have a vote a piece hopefully one of them will surface.

[M] Apollo
12-21-2008, 07:22 PM
I'm not one to talk but I guess I can't say anything useful because of an inactive town. ( With a little of the blame on myself of course. )

Could I at least point out why you guys are so hastily voting? Wouldn't a speed lynch in the Town's situation be a bad thing?

[M] Apollo
12-21-2008, 07:23 PM
Oh I see.


We should hear from everyone but now that they have a vote a piece hopefully one of them will surface.

[M] D'Anna
12-21-2008, 07:56 PM
Lrrr:


Zoidberg popped up finally I see.

Alright then, who do you find suspicious Zoidberg? Why do you think Devil was picked off last night instead of someone else? What are your thoughts on Nibbler?

Also BloB has vanished without explaining his incoherent statement.

[M] Eizen
12-21-2008, 07:58 PM
I think he might be talking about me.

[M] D'Anna
12-21-2008, 08:14 PM
Lrrr:


Yay Bender is here now! Alright same questions to you!

Who do you find suspicious? Why haven't you posted your suspicions much and seemingly been playing an out of sight game? What do you think of others doing this? (Amy, Hermes, Tinny Tim, Zoidberg). What's your thoughts on the fish of Nibbler?

[M] Eizen
12-21-2008, 08:37 PM
Lrrr;2612636']Yay Bender is here now! Alright same questions to you!

Which'll answer to the best of my abilities.


Who do you find suspicious?

Lrrr and Blob for posting a lot. Hermes and Zoidberg for posting next to nothing.


Why haven't you posted your suspicions much and seemingly been playing an out of sight game?

I'm sorry that I seem to have played an out of sight game. I'm trying to post more, but with posts sometimes hours apart I get distracted, and log off.


What do you think of others doing this? (Amy, Hermes, Tinny Tim, Zoidberg).

Tinny Tim is trying to help the town from what I can see.

Hermes has posted a total of 6 times, so if he's town, his only use is to make up numbers.

Amy hasn't posted much either, but some of it is slightly useful.

Zoidberg, much like Hermes, has posted little, and non of it useful.


What's your thoughts on the fish of Nibbler?

It could some sort of new role that they came up with, or it could be what others have said.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-21-2008, 08:51 PM
Zoidberg;2612612']
Could I at least point out why you guys are so hastily voting? Wouldn't a speed lynch in the Town's situation be a bad thing?
Votes speak louder than accusations. If someone is lying low they probably won't show up just because you are talking about them, lumping them in with a bunch of others. As long as we keep track of votes a speed lynch won't take place.

Bender, I find it odd that you suspect Lrrr just for posting a lot. I find him to be one of the least suspicious. It's nothing in particular, he's had some arguments on people who haven't worked out, but many townies have done the same, myself included. Bad arguments doesn't always mean mafia, it could just mean bad arguments.

Zoidberg hasn't done squat but he did do one important thing, vote for Leela. Do you think that was a possible mafia stage to clear him above the other inactives?

My vote stays on Amy for now but I'm glad to see some dialogue going.

[M] Eizen
12-21-2008, 09:33 PM
Morbo;2612651']Bender, I find it odd that you suspect Lrrr just for posting a lot. I find him to be one of the least suspicious. It's nothing in particular, he's had some arguments on people who haven't worked out, but many townies have done the same, myself included. Bad arguments doesn't always mean mafia, it could just mean bad arguments.

In WWIII mafia the mafia won, and guess what. They were among the actives. Bad arguments have nothing to do with why I don't trust him all that much.


Zoidberg hasn't done squat but he did do one important thing, vote for Leela. Do you think that was a possible mafia stage to clear him above the other inactives?

I didn't see that, so it could be possible that it was, depending on when it happened. Besides I think she was gone anyway.

[M] Elize
12-21-2008, 10:58 PM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


Why I mean Lrrr is that it's eay to say Bender's not suspicious when he hasn't said anything that could be mean he isn't suspicious!

[M] Mom – Host
12-21-2008, 11:07 PM
Donbot:


To avoid misunderstandings, please glance over your posts before posting.

[M] Apollo
12-21-2008, 11:43 PM
I'm in the process of answering those questions.

[M] Apollo
12-21-2008, 11:55 PM
Ah, what the hell, I might as well come out with it. I'm a Town-Aligned Serial Killer. Or so at least I think I am Town-Aligned, since it was Greenin my role PM.

I waited a while on the first days to see if there were any role blockers, and I don't think there are any. I also didn't kill anyone because I was afraid I would have killed Townies. I became inactive so I could sit back and watch who was extremely scummy and take them out at night. As you can see, no-one appears scummy to me. .I tried my luck by killing another fellow inactive, Fry, but I was wrong.

[M] Helo
12-22-2008, 12:18 AM
Argh
I am at the library and my computer is about to run out of time, as I was reading through the posts I had missed...
I have to be brief haha

Zoidberg, didn't Fry get modkilled for being inactive???

Also the Nibbler-Fish thing, it could literally be a Red Herring.
Either the role he is is a Red Herring role
Or the hint is a red herring
arg
Times up

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
12-22-2008, 01:52 AM
Ok zoidberg is really odd. Not only is a town alligned serial killer called a vig and is yellow and not green, but Fry was killed from inactivity. It said so in his death. I dont know what to think about Zoidberg, but I think he is either a Jester or a really dumb mafia. Im going to hold out on my vote, but Zoidberg is now added to my list of suspects, whih is this, in order, for reasons already said.

Blob
Morbo
Zoidberg
Bender

Morbo and Zoidberg are very close, and they arent exactly far away from Blob...

[M] D'Anna
12-22-2008, 03:01 AM
Lrrr:



I tried my luck by killing another fellow inactive, Fry,


[M] Fry was found to be repeatedly smashed over the head by a few extremely irritable Mods for being an inactive Smurf.

[M] Fry was played by f f freak, was a Vanilla Townie, and is not thanked for NOT playing.

Care to explain Zoidberg? I see a major inconsistency here. Your claim is very lacking and I think quite honestly made up. Bluntly I think your lying about it. Unless you can make up a good argument, my vote will be on you today.

Till then I'm placing it on Hermes to try and add some heat on him so he'll come out of hiding and post!

##Vote: Hermes


Why I mean Lrrr is that it's eay to say Bender's not suspicious when he hasn't said anything that could be mean he isn't suspicious!

In English please. I'm not one to really be a grammar nazi, but egads man I can't understand a word your trying to say. I'm not asking for a perfectly written novel, but please at least convey your thoughts in a way that is understandable.


In WWIII mafia the mafia won, and guess what. They were among the actives.

Ya, but the more active someone is, the more likely they are to slip up if their scum. Morbo is active as well, yet he's not on your list because of it. Care to explain why?

If your suspicious of me, you better have a better reason then "I'm active", otherwise if I truly am and your right, no one will listen to just a bad reasoning.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-22-2008, 05:06 AM
Finally some action from Zoidberg though it was completely unexpected.

Bascially, I agree with what Nibbler and Lrrr have said. A town alligned serial killer is called a Vigilante. All indications point to Fry's death as being due to his inactivity. The mods even hinted it might happen in the previous day. Why would you kill someone that was going to be killed off anyway?

It will be really hard to believe that your claim was real. So right now I'm trying to figure out why a townie would lie about something like that. I can't think of a reason yet.

[M] Apollo
12-22-2008, 05:32 AM
As expected I didn't think I'd get far with that BS. I was trying to get the mafia to kill me because I'm obviously not helping the town. I'd rather sacrifice myself and let the more experienced players live than stick around and be an inactive. I also don't think it helped when I thought of that half-asleep. I would have claimed Doctor, but that would still be equally as stupid. Now you can see I've given up ( on myself of course, not the town. )

Hopefully I can still contribute by answering your questions there. :monster:


Alright then, who do you find suspicious Zoidberg?

Blob. Why? Look at his first post of the day man.


Horrible Gelatinous Blob;2612581']EPIC KILL!

Alright guys, looks like we are in the Slammer right now. I think we need to get together and smurfing get Mafia. I think we should target Bender. He's virtually useless to us in terms of cracking Mafia, and everyday he barely escapes lynching. Think about it, every game there's some sort of barely active mafian who stays under the radar, rides logic coattails, andwe (the town) gets are asses served to us. He's useless ans scummy to me.

##Vote-Bender

Here we have one long, pointless paragraph riddled with incomplete sentences. It's not the grammar I'm focusing on, it's the rushed feel of it. It's like Blob was trying to quickly get the town to vote Bender and end the day. Even me, in my absence never rush stuff like this so quickly. ( The very second post of the day? Really? ) And to be honest, I think Blob chose Bender because it would be "the easy way out, but not too easy that it looks scummy."

<hr>
Why do you think Devil was picked off last night instead of someone else?

To me it's simple. He suspected someone who was Mafia, or he showed the most threat to the Mafia. Maybe you could study who he suspected more than you suspected.

<hr>
What are your thoughts on Nibbler?

I'm not sure what to think. There's just an aggregation of you posting a whole lot, which is a crude tactic the Mafia used in the last game. They were obviously scum and were more obvious the closer to the end-game we got. But it would've been tough trying to get the town to vote them since they ( aka "sacrificed" ) lynched a lot of their own Mafia.

[M] Apollo
12-22-2008, 05:38 AM
Sorry but I kind of feel like I ruined it for the town. :(


I'm pretty drowsy though, so I'm going to go with my gut feeling and vote for Blob. Please don't speed lynch. In a game with so many inactives, you'll need every hour of the day. Not too sure when the day ends but I'm going to sleep now and sadly, I have to cast my vote.

##Vote: [M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob

[M] D'Anna
12-22-2008, 05:55 AM
Lrrr:


See Zoidberg you can contribute!

I do think your idea of Robot Devil being on the right track could be correct.

Some of the people he mentioned towards the end were Morbo, Amy, and Bender. Especially Amy. Who still hasn't popped in yet. Amy where are you my love? :(

Blob as has been said does seem very suspicious, though his first post bothers me more then just it seeming rushed. It bugs me because all through out the game he constantly asserts himself as town this, town that. It's as if he's trying to get us to think he's town subtly. He's been doing ALL game too.


Alright guys, looks like we are in the Slammer right now. I think we need to get together and smurfing get Mafia.


andwe (the town) gets are asses served to us.


Damn, the Mafia's killing us!


Man, the scum's killing us!

And just for fun I found this while quote mongering...


Think about it, every game there's some sort of barely active mafian who stays under the radar, rides logic coattails, andwe (the town) gets are asses served to us.


My logic sucks in itself, so I suppose I ride coattails to the end, but whatever works.

Can you say....contradiction? The bottom quote came first, where he claims he's a follower, yet in the above more recent post he out right says there's always a mafia who stays under the radar and does the same thing.

Really now Blob is just making my alien spider sense tingle in oh so many ways.
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[M] Amy
[M] Bender
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob
[M] Hermes
[M] Lrrr
[M] Morbo
[M] Nibbler
[M] Tinny Tim
[M] Zoidberg

That's the list of who's left in play. 1 mafia down, so I'm assuming 3 to go. That means game over is when we hit 3 town left. Assuming 6 town, that means if we miss today and lose one in the night, tomorrow is endgame.

Of the above, as of this moment, Blob, Bender, and Amy are my top 3.

Although I will mention Morbo too, but it's mostly a gut feeling that something is off, which I seem to have a knack for in this game. But I'm just a paranoid bastard, so ya.

Well then, have at it and lets get posting!

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-22-2008, 06:38 AM
I don't really buy Zoidberg's explanation. I didn't really suspect him until now but this is hard to ignore. But the Blob evidence from Lrrr is also hard to ignore, as is his quick acceptance of Zoidberg's explanation.

My top suspects up until now had been Bender and Amy. This might be the last time I can come on for this day so I might be making my final vote now. I'm going to take a few more minutes to look over old quotes and then make the important decision.

[M] Eizen
12-22-2008, 06:42 AM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob;2610395']Now my vote for Mom is legitimate! *thumbs up*

Posted after Mum said she had been replaced.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-22-2008, 07:27 AM
Ok my final thought.

Blob - I just think we'd be lynching another fool of a townie. I do agree that he's been no help, but he's been so...visible...that he's been left there as the easy target for whenever the mafia needed him. Mom called him an easy target (when she was reprimanding the previous Morbo actually :p) and I agree with her.

Zoidberg - I'm really having a hard time buying into what he said. I think he had a plan and it slipped up. Was inactive for a long time and needed a good role claim to explain it all. Only it was a bad role claim. Plan B: Go after Blob. I think he was a bad mafia trying to play the inactive game who slipped up.

Amy - Amy has never made any sense (as in her posts, she makes sense as a mafia candidate for sure) to me but she still hasn't shown up. I was hoping my vote would get her active but that hasn't worked. Again. I still suspect her.

Bender - I keep intending to grill Bender to get something out of him but something else always comes up. I've thought he's mafia for a little while now and I still think that. See my other posts for what I've said about him.

Right now I think the mafia is Zoidberg, Amy, and Bender.

Before the Zoidberg nonsense my vote of the day was going to be Bender. But I just can't get over that. I really hope I'm doing the right thing here.

<b>##Unvote: Amy
##Vote: Zoidberg</b>

Also Hermes needs to post!

Hopefully I will be back before time expires to read over what I hope will be lots of discussion!

[M] Helo
12-22-2008, 10:53 AM
Zoidberg's claim is very suspicious to me. The roleclaim is, quite obviously, false, but the claim that it was a ploy against the mafia is just off. If I were to attempt the same move, I'd definitely pick a better role. And then I'd defend myself better, and for longer. Zoidberg gave out far too easily.

However, I can't see how this would be useful to the mafia. Surely they wouldn't make so dodgy a move? I think Zoidberg is just a really unimaginative townie with a busy RL.

[M] Mom – Host
12-22-2008, 01:39 PM
Donbot:


Votecount

[M] Bender (1) - [M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob
[M] Amy (0) - [M] Morbo
[M] Hermes (1) - [M] Lrrr
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (1) - [M] Zoidberg
[M] Zoidberg (1) - [M] Morbo

4 hours until the end of day 6.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
12-22-2008, 04:07 PM
Hmmm... I dont really like what Zoidberg did, but I agree with Tim that it looks more like an uninformed townie. Blob still tops my suspect list, so I will vote for him. I already said why in the suspect list I had before.

##vote: Blob

[M] Elize
12-22-2008, 04:09 PM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


##Unvote-Bender
##Vote-Zoidberg

For reasons mentioned above and roleclaiming an 'original' role that already exists.

Oops, I posted on my real account. Oh well, it's not like I'm particularly cryptic.

[M] D'Anna
12-22-2008, 04:40 PM
Lrrr:


Blob any defense against anything I've said or asked towards you? I can't help but feel like your dodging me.

[M] D'Anna
12-22-2008, 05:18 PM
Lrrr:


Hermes still bugs me, no word on him getting replaced or modkilled for inactivity, yet he's still around. I get a strange feeling he could be active elsewhere.

As for who to kill today, it looks like it's a toss up between Blob and Zoidberg, unless the votes heavily shift, I'll probably vote Blob today, he has been one of my biggest suspects for the longest time and constantly has been doing scummy things.

Zoidberg's claim really bugged me, but for some reason I don't get much of a scum vibe from him after he said his claim was bogus. Can't really explain it, just not getting a gut feeling there.

If I had to say who my gut is telling me, then it would be Blob, Morbo, Tim, and Amy. Just something about the way they have talked and played somehow irks me. Now I can make a case for all of them except Morbo, it's mostly just paranoia since him and me are leading the town at the moment, and I'm too paranoid that a scum will end up leading the town to their deaths.

Jessweeee♪
12-22-2008, 05:30 PM
Day ends in ten minutes or whenever the tie is broken. Whatever comes last.

[M] Apollo
12-22-2008, 05:37 PM
Since the day is still going and I woke up I'll unvote.

##Unvote: [M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob

Okay so I apologize for seeming to be scum trying to explain the inactivity to be safe, but if I had claimed Doctor, that'd also be hard to 'cover up' because questions from all over would come to me asking why I didn't protect so-and-so. I can understand, Morbo, why you don't believe me though.

I don't think that should be your focus of the day either. Hermes and Amy stand out to me not only because they are inactive, but they've been inactive for about most of the game. They don't even seem like they're trying to help. More of "Someone calls me out > Defend myself > Go inactive again."

I'd love to see more life out of Hermes and Amy.

[M] Apollo
12-22-2008, 05:38 PM
Ah, looks like the day is ending in 3 minutes. Now, it all falls on me I guess.

[M] Apollo
12-22-2008, 05:40 PM
*closes eyes* Please be scum!


##Vote: [M] Hermes

[M] D'Anna
12-22-2008, 05:41 PM
Lrrr:


You just made it a tie Zoidberg, we need one more. >.>

[M] Elize
12-22-2008, 05:41 PM
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:


##Unvote-Zoidberg
##Vote-Hermes

There we go!

Jessweeee♪
12-22-2008, 05:42 PM
You know if I was a real bitch I'd say your vote for Hermes was a few seconds too late and you're dying instead, Zoidypoo, but since I said ten minutes and not nine minutes and xxx seconds, I won't.


Or maybe I will, let's see what the cohosts, think :</>D!

[M] D'Anna
12-22-2008, 05:42 PM
Lrrr:


And I get a feeling some scum is probably on lurking, ready to strike on a tie breaker.

[M] D'Anna
12-22-2008, 05:43 PM
Lrrr:


Why do I get that sinking feeling I was right...

[M] Mom – Host
12-22-2008, 05:48 PM
Donbot:


AK is super busy so you'll have to deal with Jessweeee♪'s 1337 writing skills.

Hermes decided that lynching people wasn't really the bureaucratic way of dealing with the problem, so everyone else lynched him instead. He was a Vanilla Townie originally played by ~*~Celes~*~ then replaced by Sweet_Insanity.

[M] Mom – Host
12-22-2008, 09:25 PM
Donbot:


Lrr, RULER OF OMECRON PERSEII EIGHT died of a Human Horn overdose. He was a Vanilla Townie played by Clouded Sky and Bahamut2000X

With seven surviving it takes four to lynch. The day ends in twenty four hours!

(I apologize for the flavor, it must leave a horrible taste in your mouth ;_;</>)

[M] Eizen
12-22-2008, 09:27 PM
Could I have a list if who is still alive?

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
12-22-2008, 09:45 PM
##Vote: Blob

He has survived long enough

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
12-22-2008, 10:00 PM
Amy, Bender, Blob, Morbo, Nibbler, Zoidberg, and Tim are the ones left alive.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-22-2008, 10:00 PM
WTF was that at the end of the day? We don't deserve to win this. I thought we had someone and then a bunch of weird crap like this happens and now I don't know anything.

Ok, we need to be very careful with where we put our votes today. This could be it. Things like Nibbler coming in and slapping a vote on Blob and then leaving are reasons why this town has been such a failure. Early voting is dangerous because the mafia could just stack their votes on top of it and we'd lose. This increases Nibbler's suspicion.

Now I'm going to go back and try to make sense of this smurfing game.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
12-22-2008, 10:03 PM
I left?

And why wouldnt I slap a vote on Blob. I have already said my suspisions on him many many times. I think you are just trying to protect your mafia buddy, because you are afraid that because the odds are so much better now, that you will all be lynched.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-22-2008, 10:12 PM
I meant left in the sense that you left your post without much else discussion. I'm glad you stick around to talk things out with us.

The only thing I am afraid of is lynching the wrong person. I just find it odd that a vote comes out so quickly. The fact that it is on Blob really has nothing to do with it.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
12-22-2008, 10:18 PM
I have voted for him for the last few days right? He hasnt said anything that has changed my mind before and I know he isnt going to today but if he does, well then I can unvote him. I find it very very unlikely however.

My suspect list is now

Blob
Morbo
Bender
Zoidy

I changed my mind about zoidberg, he doesnt give me a feeling of scum too bad...

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
12-22-2008, 10:23 PM
Ok Morbo, how do you comment on my main evidence on you, how you attacked someone for something but didnt attack a mafia for the same thing? And give me more than "I wasnt thinking that".

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-22-2008, 10:31 PM
If you want to vote for Blob, that's fine. I'm not arguing your points against him, I've just reread them and they make some sense. I'm just saying having a vote out there is dangerous in case you are wrong, because the mafia has votes too and they could get together and stack them on top of yours ending the game as a loss for the town.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-22-2008, 10:32 PM
Nibbler;2613156']Ok Morbo, how do you comment on my main evidence on you, how you attacked someone for something but didnt attack a mafia for the same thing? And give me more than "I wasnt thinking that".
I'll be happy to give you an answer once I understand what you are asking.

[M] Eizen
12-22-2008, 10:33 PM
That's if the mafia has three members. If they don't, they cant speed lynch a townie.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
12-22-2008, 10:34 PM
I guess they could only have 3, but in a 20 person game I think that's unlikely.

[M] Eizen
12-22-2008, 10:39 PM
I meant three now, or do you mean three from the start?

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
12-22-2008, 10:47 PM
Nibbler;2611750']Morbo: Oh yes... This part here is creditted to Robot Devil...
Robot Devil;2611301']Santa, OMG he killed the doctor = scum. What about Leela? She also attacked Calculon, but not a mention about her.We all know Leela was a mafia, so I think Morbo was not talking about Leela because she is one of his scum-buddies. He later comments about Leela but urges us not to lynch her too quick. Maybe he was trying to give her time to think something up and also try to clear himself a little if Leela is lynched. My guess is mafia or really unlucky town.

This is my main evidence against you.