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Bastian
03-08-2009, 08:34 AM
The book is beyond amazing.

The first 1984 film was pretty darn good.

The 1989 sequel was . . . alright. For nostalgia purposes.

The third movie was godawful.

The cartoon series was cute, but ultimately too kiddy.

The live action tv series was beyond terrible.

But still, I have some hope that this "remake" (it isn't actually a remake, but more of a new adaption of the book) will finally capture what the book was really about.

But every single one of the twelve million blogs about this all sound the same: they're all written by whinny guys telling Hollywood to suck it for "raping [their] childhood" with remakes.

They should learn to read.

Miriel
03-08-2009, 09:27 AM
The Neverending Story was like my absolute favorite movie growing up. LOVED IT. Completely transported me to another world whenever I watched it. And I cried like a baby when Atreyu's horse died. :(

But the sequel sucked. I never read the books so I can't really comment on the whole adaptation thing.

Marshall Banana
03-08-2009, 10:45 AM
Falklor will be played by Tiki.

<img src="http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m285/fofonda/Old/tiki8.jpg">

theundeadhero
03-08-2009, 06:39 PM
Maybe they won't remake the wolf so damn scary so it doesn't traumatize kids for the rest of their lives :whimper:

Ryth
03-08-2009, 07:02 PM
I have to jump on the "stop making remakes" wagon. I adored the first movie (never saw the sequels) and I really hope they don't ruin it. More importantly though, I don't even care if this would end up being great... I'm SICK of remakes. Hollywood is so dearth of originality that I become shocked if theres more than 5 SOLID films in any given year.

Bastian
03-08-2009, 07:54 PM
Ryth: I understand where you're coming from . . . "but remakes" have been the trend in Hollywood since . . . well, at least since 1939. The version of The Wizard of Oz that we're all familiar with? Remake. Based on the 1921 silent version. Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings? Remake. 1978 animated film directed by Ralph Bakshi.

But the point that I'm trying to make is that like these films, the new film(s) based on the book The Neverending Story are NOT remakes. A "remake" implies that it is the new production team's intent to recreate the original movie (like the new version of Psycho, which was shot-for-shot identical). Oz, Rings, and so on and now The Neverending Story are attempts to ignore those previous versions for the most part and create NEW adaptations from their original book.

That's why I'm so jazzed about this. As wonderful as the first NES movie was, it paled in comparison to the book. The book is exponentially better.

Markus. D
03-08-2009, 08:12 PM
I want Tim Burton to remake it :D!

and it can be full of morbid musical bliss~~~

Bastian
03-08-2009, 09:51 PM
You know, Tim Burton would be a good choice. The book is VERY dark (especially the second half that was never made into the film) and there are three songs in the book.

scrumpleberry
03-08-2009, 10:02 PM
Falklor will be played by Tiki.

<img src="http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m285/fofonda/Old/tiki8.jpg">

I love your dogs. Mine don't have such beautiful wind faces.

Also, this had better be damn good.

Bastian
03-08-2009, 10:05 PM
Oh! And cute as your dog is, there will be no flying dogs in the new version. Falkor was supposed to look like a white chinese dragon with a lion-like head, but the '84 film thought that the concept art for him looking like that would be too scary for kids and not cute enough. Hence the flying dog shape.

BG-57
03-08-2009, 10:46 PM
I'm not opposed to remakes per se, but they rarely capture what made the previous versions great (if they were great). The 1939 Wizard of Oz set the bar so high that I doubt I'll live to see it topped.

Speaking of Tim Burton, I found his remake of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory visually more impressive than the 1970's version but the characterization of Willy Wonka was creepy and off putting in the wrong way. It would be interesting to see what he could do with the material, but I found his only completely successful live action film was Ed Wood.

I grew up on the original film (I lived in Germany at the time and had a backpack just like the bullies wear), and I have it now on DVD. Like Wizard of Oz, it holds up very well, aside from Gmork's presentation. They couldn't convincingly show him running so they just cut to POV shots instead. I'm sure digital effects could show a more expansive Fantasia, but the first movie did a great job with sets and animatronics.

All the special effects in the world will not save a remake if the casting is bad. And that's ultimately what really made the first NES movie great: both Bastian and Atreyu were protrayed by great child actors who had great screen presence and you could identify completely with their struggles.

That being said I hope any remake is successful...not that it matters.

Darkswordofchaos
03-08-2009, 11:01 PM
I have to jump on the "stop making remakes" wagon. I adored the first movie (never saw the sequels) and I really hope they don't ruin it. More importantly though, I don't even care if this would end up being great... I'm SICK of remakes. Hollywood is so dearth of originality that I become shocked if theres more than 5 SOLID films in any given year.

For real thear was like 2 movies last year that were completle original.

But i really liked the never ending story id like to see a new one

Dreddz
03-08-2009, 11:02 PM
This remake will be riddled with CG that will ruin the film. I've always been a fan of the special effects used in the original film. The scene where the horse dies always frightened me because it seemed so real.

I always found the original to be a sublime experience. Very weird but in a good way. The film doesn't need remaking, end of. At least its not as bad as The Karate Kid remake. Now thats criminal.

Bastian
03-08-2009, 11:34 PM
Again, I must disagree.

The film DOES need remaking.

Imagine if when MGM decided to do The Wizard of Oz in 1939, people said "No! We already have the silent version from the 20s! We prefer movies to be silent, we don't need your fancy SOUND in our movies!" We'd never have the version that we all know today.

Imagine if when Peter Jackson tried to do Lord of the Rings everyone said, "No! Lord of the Rings doesn't need remaking. We already have the cartoon from the 70s. I prefer the cartoon special effects to anything you could come up with." Do you honestly think the cartoon Lord of the Rings is better? It's awful. They cut at least two thirds of the material out.

I LOVE the original version of The Neverending Story (for nostalgia reasons, mainly, it was my favorite movie as a kid and I watched it like once a week), but I have MAJOR issues with it.

1) More than two thirds of the story is missing. Imagine if they stopped at the end of Fellowship of the Ring and decided to not make Two Towers or Return of the King. And, NO, NeverEnding Story II and III have nothing to do with the missing two thirds.

2) Not only is the entire last half of the book missing, but a LOT of stuff from the first half of the book that would have been AMAZING to see isn't there. There's a huge scary creature called Ygramul that is comprised entirely of tiny insects and together can morph into various deadly shapes with deadly poison; they couldn't do such a thing in '84 because of the infancy of special effects.

3) Much of what should have been the end of the first film was cut out. It was probably too philosophical and dark .

4) Bastian is supposed to be fat. Yes, fat.

5) Atreyu is supposed to be green. I can let this one slide.

6) Falkor is NOT supposed to be a flying dog. He's a white Chinese dragon with a lion-like head and huge fangs. he's SUPPOSED to look scary. That's part of the whole point. Bastian is fat, but he's a hero. Falkor looks like a scary monster, but is a good guy.

7) The second movie planned (which I assume will be based on the second half of the book) will blow everyone's mind. If you thought the original first movie was dark and moody, you ain't seen nothin' yet. Imagine what happens when someone is given absolute power. Even the best intentions quickly pave the road to hell.

theundeadhero
03-08-2009, 11:54 PM
I hope they hold true to Falkor's introduction in the story. Imagine a giant scary dragon trapped in a spider web with another giant spider monster about to eat him. Atreyu has to travel very far and this spider monster knows a secret way to do so. The secret is that the poison in the spider's bite allows you to travel great distances through space. So, Atryu lets the spider bite him, poisoning himself, and travels the distance. Since the luck dragon just happened to be stuck around listening he found out he could travel too so he got the smurf out of there and followed Atreyu.

Bastian
03-09-2009, 12:03 AM
Undeadhero: haha! I wrote the exact same thing in my post above yours, but I realized I was rambling tooooo much, so I edited it out. :P But exactly. I like that SO much better than Falkor randomly appearing out of nowhere and saving Atreyu. Atreyu doesn't NEED saving. He has frikkin AURYN.

So do I, for that matter. :P
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/609/picture013o.th.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture013o.jpg)
and also:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3271/picture002zaz.th.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture002zaz.jpg)
I wonder what the new design for AURYN will be? Faithful to the book, or something fancy like the first film.

Quindiana Jones
03-09-2009, 12:10 AM
I only just realised that that thing is like the Uroboros, but twice.

TNES is awesome. Everything after the first was sucktastic. I didn't even know there was a book. I will now read the book because it sounds amazing. Thank you Bastian, you absolute legend. :love:

If it turns out that this new film sucks balls, I'll watch it anyway.

Zeromus_X
03-09-2009, 12:24 AM
Oh I remember that movie! I didn't know they made sequels...well, I hope this remake or whatever you call it is good.

I didn't know it was based on a book, might have to go read that.

Bastian
03-09-2009, 01:20 AM
Yup, AURYN is intentionally like the Uroboros and the yin-yang Taijitu combined. Which is much more obvious in the book's conception which has it just as one dark snake and one light snake forming a simple oval.

[edit:]

Oh, and don't worry about the sequels to the original movie. The only reason I own TNESII is for nostalgia. It's awful. They took two ideas out of the second half of the book, dumbed them down and Disney-fied them, and then wrote a bunch of stupid gibberish to fit them in. Then then the third movie? It's basically an unintentional parody. MORONIC.

theundeadhero
03-09-2009, 04:36 PM
Now I want to reread the book again. It's been at least ten years since I have.

Crimson
03-13-2009, 05:12 AM
To be honest, im unsure whether it was good or not, I spent most of the film trying to figure out wtf was going on. :roll2

BG-57
03-14-2009, 01:38 AM
Would a synopsis help?

sir helix
03-14-2009, 05:32 PM
wow my childhood is returning fast...... sure i didnt grow up in the 80s just around it lol. now honostly i didnt think the sequals were all that bad. now on the third one the born toba wild skit sort of scarred me

Rostum
03-19-2009, 07:09 AM
YouTube - Neverending Story - Main Theme (German) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5Af1lZXioY)

I can't wait!

Cyric
03-24-2009, 05:30 AM
I want Tim Burton to remake it :D!

and I think you can rot in Hell. The ONLY person that should be remaking this movie, is the person that made it in the first place: Wolfgang Petersen. And the REASON that it was SUCH a good movie, is because it WAS NOT WATERED DOWN! Keep the wolf as creepy, or if not, creepier than the original.

Caraliz
03-24-2009, 05:48 AM
Haha that wolf was awful. NIGHTMARES.

Bastian
03-24-2009, 09:26 AM
Wolfgang Peterson did a decent job. I LOVED the original movie when I was a kid. Then I read the book, and frankly, my love for the '84 movie was diminished. I still love it, but for nostalgia reasons only.

The crimes that he made against the book . . . I just hope that the new film doesn't make the same mistakes.

As for Tim Burton, he's busy making "Return to Wonderland" or some such insanity.

I'd like to see Andrew Adamson (Narnia, Shrek) make the new film.

Mirage
03-24-2009, 09:36 AM
I can't even remember the wolf, so much for it traumatizing me!

Shiny
03-25-2009, 07:07 AM
Falklor will be played by Tiki.

<img src="http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m285/fofonda/Old/tiki8.jpg">
:laugh: That's boss.

Guillermo Del Toro should remake it if a remake is really necessary (which it isn't) because the original is amazing.

escobert
03-25-2009, 07:43 AM
I can't even remember the wolf, so much for it traumatizing me!

same here xD

theundeadhero
03-26-2009, 04:22 PM
I really hope Andrew Adamson does not make the movie. I thought Narnia was a horrible movie with bad acting and a worse wardrobe. I did enjoy Shrek like most others. I just think that the tone of The Never Ending Story wouldn't be portrayed right when compared to the other movies.