Mafia XIII: Game thread! - GAME OVER - Hail to the Town!

[[M] Mom – Host]

"Pass me more chips," beckoned Obama.
"Alright," Teddy Roosevelt answered, sliding him another $1,000 worth of chips.
"I remember when we where celebrating your inauguration G.W.!" Lincoln laughed.
"Not like there turned out to be much to celebrate," Reagan joked. There was a chorus of laughs throughout the room.
"We need more snacks!" John Adams exclaimed.
"Why don't you get us some beer Adams," Andrew Jackson retorted.
"That's Sa-"
"I'll get them," Clinton answered. He headed toward the kitchen and open the door... and the bloody bodies of Gerald Ford and Lyndon Johnson fell on him. "GET THEM OFF ME!" Clinton wailed. Out of the shadows Washington appeared, removing the bodies from Clinton and pulling a note off one of them. Calmly, Washington muttered...

"A mob has formed."


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If you need to recap on the rules, go back to the signup thread. (http://forums.eyesonff.com/general-chat/123630-mafia-xiii-signups-presidential-edition.html)

You have 24 hours to vote for someone to be lynched at the end of the end of the day. With 16 people 9 makes up a majority. The day will not start until of the PM's have been sent out and a good amount have been confirmed. (I know PM's haven't been sent out right yet, but please don't get impatient they're on the way!) Note: If you choose to change the password to your account please let me know.

Also, all the town-sided PM's have been sent out with the roles in Green, upon death your role's color will match it's role nature (Protective, Investigative, etc.) the green in the PM was just for organizational reasons =P

Vanilla Townies are called Innocent Bystanders... Had to announce it or y'all could metagame D:

Accounts in play:
Bill Clinton
John Adams
Andrew Jackson
Taft
George W. Bush
<s>Theodore Roosevelt</s> - Evil Leader - Kangaroo'ed Day 2
Jimmy Carter - Innocent Bystander - Black Hole'd Night 1
FDR
Ronald Reagan
Barack Obama
Dwight D. Eisenhower - Innocent Bystander - Elephant Gunned Day 1
Abraham Lincoln
George Bush Sr.
Richard Nixon
John F. Kennedy
Thomas Jefferson - Self Centered Citizen - Exploding snaked Night 2.

Good luck!

[[M] Anise]

Confirm me, my good man. I'm doing this for all the democrats out there!

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Hello, and good evening, gentlemen. I'm looking forward to heated arguments by day and sweating in bed at night.

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

Let the Presidential Brawl begin.

[[M] Athena]

I like bushes :bigsmile:

[[M] Adama]

Hello, my fellow presidents.

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

If the GM has a sense of humor, then Nixon is totally a Saulus. :freak:

[[M] Adama]

Taft;2648793']If the GM has a sense of humor, then Nixon is totally a Saulus. :freak:That would be awesome, but I doubt it... :(

[[M] Anise]

How many more confirmations until we can play, Mr. Washington?

[[M] Mom – Host]

The day will probably start when we have about 13 confirmations. Probably. It depends on how many unresponsive, or inactives we appear to be having. No worries about that though, we do have replacements just in case. Right now we've gotten 5 in the first half hour so we should be starting up soon enough.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Taft;2648793']If the GM has a sense of humor, then Nixon is totally a Saulus. :freak:

*Shakes jowls*

[[M] Apollo]

I was hoping to get Taft just so I could complain about it being a fat joke...:p

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

My name is spelled wrong.

[[M] Adama]

Ronald Regan;2648817']My name is spelled wrong.
I noticed that too.

FAIL.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Oops? :monster:

[[M] Apollo]

Why didn't Taft get his first name?

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

Taft has no first name. He is only Taft.

EDIT: And thanks to whoever fixed me.

[[M] Adama]

I pity anyone who forgot to spell the name of one of the most famous presidents of our history. =/

[[M] Apollo]

He is William Howard Taft, and he pwns because he is fat.

[[M] Anise]

For the sake of the game, simply 'Taft' is better.

[[M] Apollo]

Well, I guess it sounds better.

[[M] Adama]

Day 1 is a time for reflection and mocking votes.

##Vote-George W. Bush

There is no excuse to be such a lousy president!

[[M] Mom – Host]

Day 1 hasn't started yet ;). 10/16 confirmed, once a few more have come in the day will start.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

I just logged out and there was this lovely girl in pink. Let's just say first erection in like 200 years booyah.

[[M] Adama]

I know that, hence the 'mocking' thing.

[[M] Anise]

That just means the first pages will be full of drivel that belongs in the sign up thread.

[[M] Adama]

John Adams;2648837']I just logged out and there was this lovely girl in pink. Let's just say first erection in like 200 years booyah.Would you like me to put it back on? ;)

[[M] Eizen]

Evil people will be banished to Africa!

[[M] Adama]

How many people do we need for the game to start, Mr. Washington?

[[M] Mom – Host]

I'd just like to give the game a bit more time so everyone, account PM's where sent out at 11-12, I don't want people in other timezones, or whatever to just be finding out Account PMs where sent with only 5 hours of the day left or something like that. In another 3, maybe 4 or 5 hours the game will start.

Also, anyone who does not confirm Day 1 is up for replacement.

[[M] Colette]

hahaha Taft got stuck in a bathtub. Andrew Jackson Confirming!

[[M] Apollo]

FDR, did you post then delete it? I could've sworn I saw you with the post that made the second page...

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

You will all suffer severely for mocking me. I'm the President. I can make that happen.

[[M] Gaius]

I have officially confirmed. That is all I have to say.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Alright guys with that we've gotten enough confirmations to start. You all have 24 hours to choose someone to lynch (Approximately 9PM GMT tomorrow). Good luck all!

EDIT: If a mod can add -Day One has Begun! to the end of the title, that'd be nice =D

[[M] Apollo]

Soooo, how is everyone? Can I start roleclaiming yet?

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

You're too slow! I'm the Godfather! :mwahaha:

[[M] Anise]

Abraham Lincoln;2648881']FDR, did you post then delete it? I could've sworn I saw you with the post that made the second page...

I did indeed. I posted about why I thought we should start earlier, but I deleted it because it came across a whiny and irrelevant.

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

Jimmy Carter scares me:(

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

Deleted posts are bad! You should know better.

[[M] Anise]

I'm aware, but it was before day one even started.

[[M] Gaius]

Bill Clinton;2648907']Jimmy Carter scares me:(

I scare me. :(

[[M] Adama]

Alright, time for Mafia.

I'm the Arsonist.

[[M] Apollo]

Dwight D. Eisenhower;2648925']Alright, time for Mafia.

I'm the Arsonist.

I'm the Firefighter:)

[[M] Adama]

Hehehe!

[[M] Anise]

This is slow..

Here, I'll juice things up and start some discussion.

##Vote: Thomas Jefferson.

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

I'm the person who did not have sexual relations with that woman.

[[M] Adama]

FDR;2648935']This is slow..

Here, I'll juice things up and start some discussion.

##Vote: Thomas Jefferson.
Why Thomas, good sir?

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

I would assume to start discussion, or because he hasn't posted yet.

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

I'm looking at FDR right now for deleting a possibly suspicious post. But the first person to vote usually isn't mafia since it makes them stand out right away. Ike's post case in point. So I dunno.

<b>#Vote: Abe Lincoln</b>

Ike made a silly roleclaim and Abe followed it up maybe trying to fit in. Reaching here but at least it's better than making some comment about which president you are.

[[M] Adama]

Ronald Reagan;2648956']I'm looking at FDR right now for deleting a possibly suspicious post. But the first person to vote usually isn't mafia since it makes them stand out right away. Ike's post case in point. So I dunno.

#Vote: Abe Lincoln

Ike made a silly roleclaim and Abe followed it up maybe trying to fit in. Reaching here but at least it's better than making some comment about which president you are.
I think you might be overthinking this, seriously, is there anything supsicous other than FDR's deleted post? Come on, is that it?

[[M] Adama]

I mean, Day 1 is hardly a time for real strategy, but can you honestly use some random funny over another funny to possibly serve as any basis for suspicion?

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

Yeah go Reagan!

[[M] Adama]

Taft;2648961']Yeah go Reagan!
Wait...what?

[[M] Mom – Host]

22 hours left in the day.

Votecount

Abraham Lincoln (1) - Ronald Reagan
Thomas Jefferson (1) - FDR

Not Voting
Bill Clinton, John Adams, Andrew Jackson, Taft, George W. Bush, Theodore Roosevelt, Jimmy Carter, Barack Obama, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Abraham Lincoln, George Bush Sr., Richard Nixon, John F. Kennedy, Thomas Jefferson

Yet to Confirm
George W. Bush, Barack Obama, John F. Kennedy, Thomas Jefferson

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

It's nothing, just a little taunting...

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

Overthinking is better than not thinking!

[[M] Adama]

Ronald Reagan;2648970']Overthinking is better than not thinking!
Actually, maybe it isn't. I'd rather have few leading in the right direction rather than few leading us in the wrong direction. And to use such a miniscule thing a basis for voting in ridiculous, we should be tyring to get inactives, not creating drama over an intentionally and intended roleclaim and place as some sort of social camoflague.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

No point in getting inactives in Day 1. If there's any they'll be replaced in the morning.

The most important thing today is to stimulate discussion instead of being silent fuckers. So yeah, even if Reagan is dead wrong, I think he's doing the right thing.

##Vote: Bill Clinton

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

I take it you voted for me because of that. Also stupid assessments.

[[M] Eizen]

I know it's one of you. But who?

[[M] Adama]

John Adams;2648979']No point in getting inactives in Day 1. If there's any they'll be replaced in the morning.

The most important thing today is to stimulate discussion instead of being silent smurfers. So yeah, even if Reagan is dead wrong, I think he's doing the right thing.

##Vote: Bill Clinton
Why Bill?

[[M] Eizen]

I would believe that he's just throwing a name out there to start some discussion. I may be wrong but that's the feeling I get.

[[M] Colette]

Dwight D. Eisenhower;2648974']
Ronald Reagan;2648970']Overthinking is better than not thinking!
Actually, maybe it isn't. I'd rather have few leading in the right direction rather than few leading us in the wrong direction. And to use such a miniscule thing a basis for voting in ridiculous, we should be tyring to get inactives, not creating drama over an intentionally and intended roleclaim and place as some sort of social camoflague.
Inactives inactives inactives. Also you decided that you don't have to give a reason to vote for somebody yet to post, then question why someone makes a vote. Not clear on the reasonig there Ike.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

SNIP

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Also this game has the worst case of similar avatars/names than any Mafia game in EoFF history!

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

Thomas Jefferson;2649004']Also this game has the worst case of similar avatars/names than any Mafia game in EoFF history!

I can tell people apart.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

I edited my first post by request of Washington. If you saw what I did then don't do the same thing (or tell anyone what I said >:[) x.x

[[M] Mom – Host]

21 hours left in the day. An important aspect of the game has been brought to my attention. Vanilla Townies are called Innocent Bystanders. That is all.

Votecount

Abraham Lincoln (1) - Ronald Reagan
Thomas Jefferson (1) - FDR
Bill Clinton (1) - John Adams

Not Voting
Bill Clinton, John Adams, Andrew Jackson, Taft, George W. Bush, Theodore Roosevelt, Jimmy Carter, Barack Obama, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Abraham Lincoln, George Bush Sr., Richard Nixon, John F. Kennedy, Thomas Jefferson

Yet to Confirm
George W. Bush, Barack Obama, John F. Kennedy

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

John Adams has voted for me, silly:p

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Oh, and I vote Eisenhower because did stuff first and that makes him mafia.

##Vote: Eisenhower

[[M] Kurt - Cool Dad]

Hmmm, I just got here. After being dead for so long takes time to get to places, so what did I miss?

[[M] Adama]

Thomas Jefferson;2649020']Oh, and I vote Eisenhower because did stuff first and that makes him mafia.

##Vote: Eisenhower
=( Why don't you go and not make slavery illegal or something?

[[M] Apollo]

Dwight D. Eisenhower;2649045'] =( Why don't you go and not make slavery illegal or something?

*walks up* Oh hai guys.:p

Anyhowz, I'll bet Jefferson posted his role PM. I don't really have anything to say about that, but I don't think a mafian would post his role pm(by that I mean a fake one), because it isn't very likely that he would have it correct. And also, you can't really tell if someone is inactive or not yet.

[[M] Apollo]

Hmm, I think I will stop pursueing this subject after this, so I don't get modkilled, but in the other thread it says that Jefferson's role has been changed.

[[M] Mom – Host]

In both threads I've said his role has been changed. It's not important what happened. Hell, I could announce it and it won't even change the game. Instead I'll make you wait. Now no more of that shenanigans and play mafia.

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

John F. Kennedy;2649028']Hmmm, I just got here. After being dead for so long takes time to get to places, so what did I miss?
Read the thread. It isn't that long yet.

Ike is giving me a bad vibe. Seems like he's trying too hard. But you can't really go after someone the first day because they are trying. That's just dumb.

In regard to inactives, not enough time has past to determine someone is inactive. An inactive is someone who just floats by without making posts for days, or making short posts as excuses for why they aren't around every now and then. None of that applies here in day 1. I do agree that everyone should post and people who don't make the game suck but I think starting down that path at this time just gives the mafia a reason to go after innocents.

I'll stick with Honest Abe for now.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Dwight D. Eisenhower;2649045']
Thomas Jefferson;2649020']Oh, and I vote Eisenhower because did stuff first and that makes him mafia.

##Vote: Eisenhower
=( Why don't you go and not make slavery illegal or something?

Hahaha how's it feel to be the only totally bald president? BALDY MCBALDBALD

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Oh wait, you do have some hair there in the back of your head. You're still the baldest, though.

[[M] Helo]

Obama signing in. Sorry I took a while, I was busy doing president stuff, you know how it is.

[[M] Anise]

Doesn't look like much progressed while I was gone. I don't really have any incentive to vote for somebody else, and nobody is leading on votes by a large margin, so sticking to Jefferson seems like a good idea.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Dwight D. Eisenhower;2648996']
John Adams;2648979']No point in getting inactives in Day 1. If there's any they'll be replaced in the morning.

The most important thing today is to stimulate discussion instead of being silent smurfers. So yeah, even if Reagan is dead wrong, I think he's doing the right thing.

##Vote: Bill Clinton
Why Bill?

Oh, no reason at all. Not even the reason he figured it would be himself, I just picked him randomly.

I think today I will go for someone who's trying to sneak past Day 1 with little activity, I'll call them lurkers for now. Not someone who's completely inactive though, as those will be replaced. Lurkers are just as likely to be mafia and I want to give the loudmouths a little more time speaking so I can figure out if they're good or bad. I can't do that with lurkers.

I'll go for Theodore Roosevelt for now, the day isn't that close to ending so that might change. He confirmed and he has stuck around a bit, but hasn't shared his suspicions yet.

##UNVOTE: B. Clinton
##VOTE: T. Roosevelt

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

Howdy there,
George Dubya signing in.
In defence of being called a lousy president can I just say that you've misunderestimated me.

[[M] Helo]

As would be expected, there is very little to go on at this point in time.
I will throw a vote out though.

##VOTE: Dwight D. Eisenhower

He's quoted someone in nearly every post, nothing overly suspicious but day one is more about luck than anything.

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

Being day one, I don't have anything to go off, but I do have reasons to believe Taft is currently in possession of certain WMDs and therefore gets my vote.

##VOTE: Taft

[[M] Helo]

Question for Mr George Washington.
Is it still expected that we all vote? I just don't want to get penalised if my presidential flights don't allow me access to the internet, or if I get stuck in some backwater place with reversed time zones (Australia).
Thanks kind sir.

[[M] Adama]

Ronald Reagan;2649077']
John F. Kennedy;2649028']Hmmm, I just got here. After being dead for so long takes time to get to places, so what did I miss?
Read the thread. It isn't that long yet.

Ike is giving me a bad vibe. Seems like he's trying too hard. But you can't really go after someone the first day because they are trying. That's just dumb.
I'm not saying that. I'm tossing stuff out for random people as you are. Hell, I'm barely trying at all!

[[M] Mom – Host]

Not voting will result in a +1 on your vote total. Like in previous mafia games. Each day will have at least 24 hours giving you all ample chance to at least make a vote. Also, everyone has confirmed!

9 and a half hours left in the day. (Game will be ending at about 9PM GMT)


Votecount

Dwight D. Eisenhower (2) - Thomas Jefferson, Barack Obama
Theodore Roosevelt (1) - John Adams
Abraham Lincoln (1) - Ronald Reagan
Thomas Jefferson (1) - FDR
Taft (1) - George W. Bush
Bill Clinton (0) - John Adams

Not Voting
Bill Clinton, Andrew Jackson, Taft, Theodore Roosevelt, Jimmy Carter, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Abraham Lincoln, George Bush Sr., Richard Nixon, John F. Kennedy

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

You forgot to put Adams vote up again.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Maybe if you weren't so quick to try and correct me you'd notice I edited it in before you posted. Doucher

Be back later in the day~

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

Barack Obama;2649186']or if I get stuck in some backwater place with reversed time zones (Australia).


The Australian P.M is visiting you, and you have the balls to say that:nonono:

##Vote: Barack Obama

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

George Washington;2649192']Maybe if you weren't so quick to try and correct me you'd notice I edited it in before you posted. Doucher

Be back later in the day~

Still got Barack Obama's and George W. Bush's vote the wrong way around:p

[[M] Adama]

Thomas Jefferson;2649091']Oh wait, you do have some hair there in the back of your head. You're still the baldest, though.
At least I don't wear a wig for it to seem otherwise. :p

[[M] Adama]

Oh my, it seems I have the most votes! What ever shall I do?

I will vote for Theodore Roosevelt, I get the impression he is trying to lead us on to the impression he is active and contributing, when he actually did the least of both.

##Vote-Theodore Roosevelt

[[M] Apollo]

Eisenhower, what do you mean? He hasn't really said anything yet besides a small opinion about a vote. I don't see how he is trying to show that he is contibuting...

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

I have a confession to make. I did have sexual relations with that woman, and I damn well enjoyed it! But can you really blame me? Just look at Hillary. I only married her because her daddy held a shotgun to my head.

[[M] Eizen]

John Adams;2649161']
Dwight D. Eisenhower;2648996']
John Adams;2648979']No point in getting inactives in Day 1. If there's any they'll be replaced in the morning.

The most important thing today is to stimulate discussion instead of being silent smurfers. So yeah, even if Reagan is dead wrong, I think he's doing the right thing.

##Vote: Bill Clinton
Why Bill?

Oh, no reason at all. Not even the reason he figured it would be himself, I just picked him randomly.

I think today I will go for someone who's trying to sneak past Day 1 with little activity, I'll call them lurkers for now. Not someone who's completely inactive though, as those will be replaced. Lurkers are just as likely to be mafia and I want to give the loudmouths a little more time speaking so I can figure out if they're good or bad. I can't do that with lurkers.

I'll go for Theodore Roosevelt for now, the day isn't that close to ending so that might change. He confirmed and he has stuck around a bit, but hasn't shared his suspicions yet.

##UNVOTE: B. Clinton
##VOTE: T. Roosevelt


I find it hard to have many suspicions this early on. I need to see a few trends first to really feel comfortable putting a name out there.

[[M] Anise]

Eisenhower is bugging me. His vote on Roosevelt is just to save his skin, and that seems odd seeing as he seems bent on contribution. Perhaps instead of panic voting, it would be wiser to look at other members and provide your opinion on them? Asking for contribution but not providing much is scummy, but there must be more reasons to lynch than that.

Not to say I'm not suspicious of Roosevelt though. I will keep my eye on you.

[[M] Anise]

Bill Clinton;2649193']
Barack Obama;2649186']or if I get stuck in some backwater place with reversed time zones (Australia).


The Australian P.M is visiting you, and you have the balls to say that:nonono:

##Vote: Barack Obama



Bill Clinton;2649195']
George Washington;2649192']Maybe if you weren't so quick to try and correct me you'd notice I edited it in before you posted. Doucher

Be back later in the day~

Still got Barack Obama's and George W. Bush's vote the wrong way around:p


Bill Clinton;2649203']I have a confession to make. I did have sexual relations with that woman, and I damn well enjoyed it! But can you really blame me? Just look at Hillary. I only married her because her daddy held a shotgun to my head.

I don't mean to be a bore, but maybe some more useful points would be nice.

[[M] Eizen]

Obama seems suspicious. Presidential stuff? :rolleyes2

also taft has said very little in the way of his suspicions. but does that mean we need to go and lynch him right away? I think not.

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

FDR;2649256']Eisenhower is bugging me. His vote on Roosevelt is just to save his skin, and that seems odd seeing as he seems bent on contribution. Perhaps instead of panic voting, it would be wiser to look at other members and provide your opinion on them? Asking for contribution but not providing much is scummy, but there must be more reasons to lynch than that.
I disagree with most of that. If I was in the lead votewise I'd do the same thing. Saving your skin is a perfectly acceptable move by a town player. It was a little too early to do that but it doesn't seem odd to me.

Quoting people throwing out random votes and asking why is what I meant by trying too hard. Trying to hard to look like you are trying. The earliest votes are random, plain and simple. But I hesitate to vote for someone who is actually stimulating discussion, which Ike is doing.

I was going to make a post similar to FDR's latest one. Clinton has just been joking around and not doing much of anything worthwhile. The other active players are at least trying to form opinions. Clinton may be trying to get his posts in without getting on anyone's radar. Let's try this and see where it goes.

<b>#Unvote: Lincoln
#Vote: Clinton</b>

[[M] Anise]

I understand, but there is still time left in the day. I suppose it is a clash of opinions more than anything else though.

[[M] Eizen]

I agree that I think Clinton is trying to make some posts and stay under the radar but I'm still not sure how feel about him.

[[M] Apollo]

Voting to save your skin in this early stage of the day is not a very town-like move. If he had any reason at all to say that, however, then he may be voting to save his skin but at least he is trying to convince us. Eisenhower seems to be working alone, since he chose not to try to convince any of us. This is a bit of a stretch, but what if he is telling his mafia buddies what to do in the forum and not telling us what to do in this thread. Maybe he is only trying to convince his fellow mafians.

[[M] Gaius]

Hi all, I'm back. I notice that ol' Bill seems to be making some rather stupid posts. I understand that it's Day One and everything, but that isn't helping the town out a great deal. I'm not going to vote for a few more hours, but if I were to vote right now, it would be for Bill.

[[M] Anise]

##unvote: Thomas Jefferson.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Not voting will result in a +1 on your vote total. Like in previous mafia games. Each day will have at least 24 hours giving you all ample chance to at least make a vote. Also, everyone has confirmed!

(Game will be ending at about 9PM GMT)


Votecount

Dwight D. Eisenhower (2) - Thomas Jefferson, Barack Obama
Theodore Roosevelt (2) - John Adams, Dwight D. Eisenhower
Abraham Lincoln (0) - <s>Ronald Reagan</s>
Thomas Jefferson (0) - <s>FDR</s>
Taft (1) - George W. Bush
Bill Clinton (1) - John Adams, Ronald Reagan
Barak Obama (1) - Bill Clinton

Not Voting
FDR, Andrew Jackson, Taft, Theodore Roosevelt, Jimmy Carter, Abraham Lincoln, George Bush Sr., Richard Nixon, John F. Kennedy

[[M] Anise]

##Vote: Bill Clinton.

Now we're on evens for the most part. I think Eisenhower and Roosevelt should be given more time.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Only about 3 hours left!

[[M] Eizen]

##Vote: Bill Clinton.

I'm going to go with Bill also. I think Reagen is on to something.

[[M] Gaius]

With only three hours left, I'm unsure if I'll be here when the day ends, so I'm going to go with Bill, although there seems to be something of a bandwagon ensuing, which I don't like, but he's the only one that isn't doing anything to help the town (apart from the inactives.)

##Vote: Bill Clinton.

Sorry, Bill.

[[M] Eizen]

I think it's good to bandwagon at this point. If Bill is mafia he's going to try and do something. this way we can sort of flush him out I suppose.

[[M] Gaius]

I suppose. But at least it's early days. If we make a mistake, we can hopefully come back from it.

[[M] Eizen]

Exactly. We may be completely wrong but it's a start. who knows we could end up getting the mafia leader on the first day.

[[M] Anise]

Theodore Roosevelt;2649310']I think it's good to bandwagon at this point. If Bill is mafia he's going to try and do something. this way we can sort of flush him out I suppose.

I wouldn't say any bandwagons are good! Still, it's only day one I guess.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Day will be ending at about 9PM GMT, this is about 2 hours from now. Clinton appears to be on the chopping block.


Votecount

Bill Clinton (4) - John Adams, Ronald Reagan, FDR, Theodore Roosevelt, Jimmy Carter
Dwight D. Eisenhower (2) - Thomas Jefferson, Barack Obama
Theodore Roosevelt (2) - John Adams, Dwight D. Eisenhower
Taft (1) - George W. Bush
Barak Obama (1) - Bill Clinton
Abraham Lincoln (0) - <s>Ronald Reagan</s>
Thomas Jefferson (0) - <s>FDR</s>

Not Voting
Andrew Jackson, Taft, Abraham Lincoln, George Bush Sr., Richard Nixon, John F. Kennedy

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

I won't take the vote that was placed on me seriously for obvious reasons mentioned by W.

Excuse me for following the Presidential bandwagon (see what I did there?) but I'm going to have to place my vote on Clinton. I can understand a few nonsensical posts, but I think you may have gotten yourself looking scummy and it doesn't look like anything you do in the next 60 minutes can save you. :greenie:

##Vote: Bill Clinton

[[M] Athena]

I thought we got 24 hours for day 1? :( Had I known we had such little time I would have tried to contribute a little harder.

[[M] Mom – Host]

You did. I started day one at about 5PM local time yesterday (4:59 close enough). I'm ending it at 5PM local time. 5PM-5PM=24 hours.


Votecount

Bill Clinton (5) - John Adams, Ronald Reagan, FDR, Theodore Roosevelt, Jimmy Carter, Taft
Dwight D. Eisenhower (2) - Thomas Jefferson, Barack Obama
Theodore Roosevelt (2) - John Adams, Dwight D. Eisenhower
Taft (1) - George W. Bush
Barak Obama (1) - Bill Clinton
Abraham Lincoln (0) - <s>Ronald Reagan</s>
Thomas Jefferson (0) - <s>FDR</s>

Not Voting
Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, George Bush Sr., Richard Nixon, John F. Kennedy

[[M] Eizen]

I would like to hear more from John Adams. He voted for me then disappeared. since he said that he would be reevaluating the situation and has yet to show up since.

[[M] Athena]

..Oh, right, GMT. Ehehe. *coughs* I feel stupid now.

Well in that case, here's what I've gathered. Bill appears to be attempting the "draw attention to myself so i look like a decoy" gig. I haven't seen much serious posting from him, and his reason for voting for Obama was pretty bogus...
Bill Clinton;2649193']
Barack Obama;2649186']or if I get stuck in some backwater place with reversed time zones (Australia).


The Australian P.M is visiting you, and you have the balls to say that:nonono:

##Vote: Barack Obama

wtf dude seriously.

vote##: Bill Clinton

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

I was planning on being less stupid tomorrow, but it doesn't look like I'll get the chance.

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

Well this is a fine mess we're in. Now if Clinton is town the mafia doesn't have to make peep for the rest of the day (which I guess isn't that much longer).

Bandwagoning is never good because once the town starts gunning after someone the mafia can just sit back and let it happen. Unless we are very sure of a person's guilt we don't want to do this.

Teddy, that was a foolish thing to say. Also, it's quite clear that part of the reason you voted Clinton was to save your own butt. While this is a reasonable action for a town or a maifa, you didn't even mention it. Mafia are more likely to try to save their hide without trying to seem like they are!

I could be on to something, or I could be on to nothing. But ending the day with a simple Clinton gang up would be too easy for them.

<b>#Unvote: Clinton
#Vote: Teddy R.</b>

[[M] Eizen]

We can't spend the entire day dicking around. There's going to be a bandwagon and someone has to start it.

Someone has to go.

Reagan you're coming on a bit strong as well with your long posts... maybe you're the mafia trying to save your own hide.

[[M] Colette]

Oh my, it seems I have the most votes! What ever shall I do?

I will vote for Theodore Roosevelt, I get the impression he is trying to lead us on to the impression he is active and contributing, when he actually did the least of both.

##Vote-Theodore Roosevelt
This post just seems to have convoluted wordy logic that says nothing. Too many subjective words, "Get. Trying. Lead us and Impression."

Yes it's the first day and there isn't that much to go off of, but there is some. And some that Ike didn't go into.

##Vote-Dwight D. Eisenhower

[[M] Colette]

I don't think Jefferson is a mafia member. If you hadn't caught his post, you could obviously tell what it was by the mods reply. They then announced that his role was changed. His role was a pro town, I doubt they'd give him a new role that was pro mafia. It gives the mafia an unfair advantages, which wouldn't have been good since it's the beginning of the game and nothing has unfolded quite yet.

That being said, I don't think he's Innocent. I just think he's not a suspect at the moment. But this seems like common sense to me.

[[M] Colette]

Also teddy, it seems you are insinuating that everyone should post short replies with no logic and backing and be inactive. How is that going to move the game along?

You seem too eager over a possible lynch due to bandwagoning. That just makes me raise an eyebrow.

[[M] Anise]

It's not too late yet, Bill. Personally, I wouldn't mind killing Eisenhower, mainly because I think he is more scummy than anybody else right now.

[[M] Mom – Host]

1 hour and 10 minutes left! Bit closer now!

Votecount

Bill Clinton (5) - John Adams, Ronald Reagan, FDR, Theodore Roosevelt, Jimmy Carter, Taft, George Bush Sr.
Dwight D. Eisenhower (3) - Thomas Jefferson, Barack Obama, Andrew Jackson
Theodore Roosevelt (3) - John Adams, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan
Taft (1) - George W. Bush
Barak Obama (1) - Bill Clinton
Abraham Lincoln (0) - <s>Ronald Reagan</s>
Thomas Jefferson (0) - <s>FDR</s>

Not Voting
Abraham Lincoln, Richard Nixon, John F. Kennedy

[[M] Eizen]

Andrew Jackson;2649348']Also teddy, it seems you are insinuating that everyone should post short replies with no logic and backing and be inactive. How is that going to move the game along?

You seem too eager over a possible lynch due to bandwagoning. That just makes me raise an eyebrow.

It's not that I want short posts or inactivity but I feel that he is posting more ever time to try and get attention off himself.

and I'm not eager to lynch but it's the first day and we need to start somewhere.

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

FDR;2649349']It's not too late yet, Bill. Personally, I wouldn't mind killing Eisenhower, mainly because I think he is more scummy than anybody else right now.

In that case, why haven't you unvoted me, and voted Eisenhower?

[[M] Gaius]

##Unvote: Bill Clinton
##Vote: Theodore Roosevelt
His line about how he thinks bandwagoning is good at this stage, surprised me. Bandwagoning is hardly ever good, because Mafia can easily jump on board with it and then shake the blame onto a Townie.

[[M] Anise]

I believe Taft also bandwagoned, am I right?

[[M] Eizen]

I didn't mean that it was good. I worded that wrong. What I should have said and meant was that at this point in time we need to start somewhere and focusing on one person may bring out their true colors.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

##Vote: Bill Clinton

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

Richard Nixon;2649358']##Vote: Bill Clinton

Good morning to you to. Would you please explain why you voted for me?

[[M] Mom – Host]

Exciting first day! 1 hour remaining

Votecount

Bill Clinton (5) - John Adams, Ronald Reagan, FDR, Theodore Roosevelt, Jimmy Carter, Taft, George Bush Sr., Richard Nixon
Theodore Roosevelt (4) - John Adams, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter
Dwight D. Eisenhower (3) - Thomas Jefferson, Barack Obama, Andrew Jackson
Taft (1) - George W. Bush
Barak Obama (1) - Bill Clinton
Abraham Lincoln (0) - <s>Ronald Reagan</s>
Thomas Jefferson (0) - <s>FDR</s>

Not Voting
Abraham Lincoln, John F. Kennedy

[[M] Adama]

FDR;2649256']Eisenhower is bugging me. His vote on Roosevelt is just to save his skin, and that seems odd seeing as he seems bent on contribution. Perhaps instead of panic voting, it would be wiser to look at other members and provide your opinion on them? Asking for contribution but not providing much is scummy, but there must be more reasons to lynch than that.
I will admit I am playing a poor game, and this is far too early to go the lengths I've been going.

FDR, Bush, and Clinton I have positive vibes from since, well, nothing they said seems scummy.

Obama and Theo seem somewhat desperate for topics.

Everyone else I am neutral.

[[M] Apollo]

Wtf? People, why are we voting off the idiot? Look back, and you can see that almost every person in the previous games that wasn't smart were townies. Plus, he said that he would contribute more and be less of an idiot.

Currently, I think Eisenhower is the most suspicious. He gave very little to the group, and he didn't give any reason for his vote(He did, but it made no sense, and I'm sure he just mde it up). If you think I am bandwagonning, look back. I was the first to show suspision toward him.

##Vote: Dwight D. Eisenhower

[[M] Adama]

I didn't notice there was an entire third page. =/

Let me read up before I post again.

[[M] Adama]

Abraham Lincoln;2649362']Wtf? People, why are we voting off the idiot? Look back, and you can see that almost every person in the previous games that wasn't smart were townies. Plus, he said that he would contribute more and be less of an idiot.

Currently, I think Eisenhower is the most suspicious. He gave very little to the group, and he didn't give any reason for his vote(He did, but it made no sense, and I'm sure he just mde it up). If you think I am bandwagonning, look back. I was the first to show suspision toward him.

##Vote: Dwight D. Eisenhower
I assure, Honest Abe, I had my reasons, I will admit they were poor, but I suppose all reasoning is pretty subpar on Day 1.

Teddy seemed to have not contributed with his, 'Oh, Yeah,' and 'I think it was to start discussion,' as most of his posts, which serves as words, but not as actual reasoning.

[[M] Eizen]

##Unvote: Bill Clinton
##Vote: Eisenhower


I have a feeling he and reagen are scum working together.

[[M] Adama]

Theodore Roosevelt;2649367']##Unvote: Bill Clinton
##Vote: Eisenhower


I have a feeling he and reagen are scum working together.
Why, because he say how I might not be scum? That logic is flawed.

[[M] Apollo]

Dwight D. Eisenhower;2649366'] I assure, Honest Abe, I had my reasons, I will admit they were poor, but I suppose all reasoning is pretty subpar on Day 1.

Teddy seemed to have not contributed with his, 'Oh, Yeah,' and 'I think it was to start discussion,' as most of his posts, which serves as words, but not as actual reasoning.

I see that, but why didn't you go after another person for the same reason? Other people did the same exact thing, but you only focused on roosevelt either because he had a vote or because the others were mafians that you are trying to protect. Now, I'm not saying this is 100% fact, but I always speak and see in worst-case scenarios.

[[M] Adama]

Oh, and this

##Unvote-Teddy Roosevelt
##Vote-Bill Clinton

I will say you did have sexual relations with that woman.

[[M] Anise]

I'm guessing the ordeal earlier may be a factor.

But yes, Roosevelt, some explanation please?

[[M] Anise]

Dwight D. Eisenhower;2649370']Oh, and this

##Unvote-Teddy Roosevelt
##Vote-Bill Clinton

I will say you did have sexual relations with that woman.

Another panic vote?

[[M] Adama]

Abraham Lincoln;2649369']
Dwight D. Eisenhower;2649366'] I assure, Honest Abe, I had my reasons, I will admit they were poor, but I suppose all reasoning is pretty subpar on Day 1.

Teddy seemed to have not contributed with his, 'Oh, Yeah,' and 'I think it was to start discussion,' as most of his posts, which serves as words, but not as actual reasoning.

I see that, but why didn't you go after another person for the same reason? Other people did the same exact thing, but you only focused on roosevelt either because he had a vote or because the others were mafians that you are trying to protect. Now, I'm not saying this is 100% fact, but I always speak and see in worst-case scenarios.No. I used him because his were more blatant and less cryptic, using this, it was used as a message for all to use your own logic as opposed to slightly adding to and guessing what someone was trying to say.

[[M] Adama]

FDR;2649372']
Dwight D. Eisenhower;2649370']Oh, and this

##Unvote-Teddy Roosevelt
##Vote-Bill Clinton

I will say you did have sexual relations with that woman.

Another panic vote?
There's 35 minutes left, it is purely self-preservation.

[[M] Eizen]

I feel like he and reagen are following each other in votes to protect themselves or someone working with them
I could be completely wrong and they may be masons or something. But it seems scummy to me.

I was going to keep my vote on bill for self preservation but I felt that one of those two is scum and we need to get rid of them.

[[M] Apollo]

Now I think that Roosevelt is just as bad as Eisenhower.

Eisenhower: This is not a time to be jokevoting. Why would you vote for Bill with no suspicion and no way of convincing yet again

Roosevelt: I think you are just bandwaggoning, and I know sometimes a townie would like to bandwagon but mafias do too. I really don't see why you think Eisenhower is with Reagan. If you could expand on that a little, maybe it would be better for all of us.

[[M] Adama]

Theodore Roosevelt;2649375']I feel like he and reagen are following each other in votes to protect themselves or someone working with them
I could be completely wrong and they may be masons or something. But it seems scummy to me.

I was going to keep my vote on bill for self preservation but I felt that one of those two is scum and we need to get rid of them.
I've never said anything to make it seems for me to be on the side of Reagan, as I stated, my vibes were that of neutrality, and he merely tried to give people the other side of the coin for reason's sake.

[[M] Adama]

Abraham Lincoln;2649376']
Eisenhower: This is not a time to be jokevoting. Why would you vote for Bill with no suspicion and no way of convincing yet again
It's not a funny, it is a vote of preservation, as there is less than an hour remaining.

[[M] Adama]

And Bill seems to be giving me the message he wants to 'Fly Under The Radar,' but, ironically, he's not be subtle with it.

[[M] Apollo]

Ok thank you Roosevelt for expanding a bit. I don't fully understand what you are getting at, but at least you did explain it.

Eisenhower, I still don't see why you would go for one person just because it seems more likely he would be lynched.

[[M] Eizen]

well if you are working together I'd hope you aren't going to be making is obvious :p which is one reason I suspect you are. It almost maybe seems as if you're trying to distance yourselves. Eisenhower only changed his vote after people were bandwagoning on him. Maybe to throw us off him and back onto Bill.

[[M] Anise]

It seemed more like a vote to save himself really, which isn't a huge crime, but he was going on about contribution and such. Not a direct contradiction, but Eisenhower seems a bit mixed up.

[[M] Mom – Host]

1/2 hour left!

Votecount

Dwight D. Eisenhower (5) - Thomas Jefferson, Barack Obama, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt
Bill Clinton (5) - John Adams, Ronald Reagan, FDR, Theodore Roosevelt, Jimmy Carter, Taft, George Bush Sr., Richard Nixon, Dwight D. Eisenhower
Theodore Roosevelt (3) - John Adams, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter
Taft (1) - George W. Bush
Barak Obama (1) - Bill Clinton
Abraham Lincoln (0) - <s>Ronald Reagan</s>
Thomas Jefferson (0) - <s>FDR</s>

Not Voting
John F. Kennedy

[[M] Adama]

Abraham Lincoln;2649380']

Eisenhower, I still don't see why you would go for one person just because it seems more likely he would be lynched.
Self-Preservation.


Theodore Roosevelt']well if you are working together I'd hope you aren't going to be making is obvious :ezpimp: which is one reason I suspect you are. It almost maybe seems as if you're trying to distance yourselves. Eisenhower only changed his vote after people were bandwagoning on him. Maybe to throw us off him and back onto Bill.
Reagan seems to understand the game enough to know he's not trying to make it obvious, and I have no reason to distance myself from someone I have no relation with, that I know of.

[[M] Eizen]

Well how do we know you have no relation to him? we don't so that's part of the process of figuring this out.

[[M] Adama]

Theodore Roosevelt;2649385']Well how do we know you have no relation to him? we don't so that's part of the process of figuring this out.
Well, what can I say? How about my intentional contradictions, on how I 'distanced' myself from him and complimented his experience in the same post, I have no reason to be.

Even I did have relation with him, it dosen't mean we are mafia, for example, we could be Siblings, Lovers, or Masons

[[M] Eizen]

I agree. that you may be masons. But how do I know? if anything you're going to try and dissuade us from thinking your mafia and together.

[[M] Apollo]

*calls Psy in*

Me: Hey Psy is this WiFoM?
Psy: I don't know, leave me alone

Haha funny funny.

Seriously, bringing up a bunch of different options seems like a way of covering something up.

And also, I am talking about your vote for Roosevelt. I don't see how you are so worried with yourself so early in the game.

[[M] Adama]

Reagan and I had a debate which I tried to defend Abe for some silly statement he made on top of a silly statement, which he resulted in voting for him as I tried to persuade him otherwise, and Abe is voting for me.

Reagan and I would more than likely not risk pulling people in opposite directions if it meant we would get farther from an easier Townie lynch target.

[[M] Adama]

Oh, and Abe, I wouldn't sign for a game if it meant me being ok for being lynched. I may be selfish or whatever, but I would not very likely be ok with being lynched Day 1 if I'm only a bystander to the evil crimes of the mafia! I am innocent!

[[M] Apollo]

I am not saying that you would happily be lynched. That is a very common very idiotic arguement. I am saying why were you so worried as to make a vote to save yourself so far before you were in any trouble.

[[M] Adama]

Abraham Lincoln;2649394']I am not saying that you would happily be lynched. That is a very common very idiotic arguement. I am saying why were you so worried as to make a vote to save yourself so far before you were in any trouble.
I'm nervous. I'm the type of guy who bought corner seats and a soccer match so a ball wouldn't be as likely to hit my face.

I overestimated the danger I was in, and now I regret it, that is all I am saying.

[[M] Apollo]

Well I'll just wait for the next day then. That way I should be able to see how everything plays out.

[[M] Colette]

Ike, just for reference, lets look at posts in this thread so far.

[M] Dwight D. Eisenhower 35
[M] FDR 19

Those are the two top posters. The more you fuss, the more attention you bring yourself. If you truly want us to think you're innocent you wouldn't try to snip at any and every comment. That makes you suspicious, frantic. To me, it seems like you're digging a deeper hole for yourself.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Final Votecount?

Dwight D. Eisenhower (5) - Thomas Jefferson, Barack Obama, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt
Bill Clinton (5) - John Adams, Ronald Reagan, FDR, Theodore Roosevelt, Jimmy Carter, Taft, George Bush Sr., Richard Nixon, Dwight D. Eisenhower
Theodore Roosevelt (3) - John Adams, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter
Taft (1) - George W. Bush
Barak Obama (1) - Bill Clinton
Abraham Lincoln (0) - <s>Ronald Reagan</s>
Thomas Jefferson (0) - <s>FDR</s>

Not Voting
John F. Kennedy

W-w-w-what's this? OVERTIME! First person to switch a vote to either Dwight or Clinton is the one who will be determining the kill!

[[M] Apollo]

People, look back at old games. The person who is acting dumb(mostly is was Demon Dude) is almost never a mafia member. In fact, I don't remember a time where a mafia was acting idiotic. Bill is just someone taking day 1 a little too unseriously.

[[M] Eizen]

I agree. I think we all were too quick to jump on the Bill bandwagon.

[[M] Anise]

Yeah, but he isn't contributing at all, whereas Eisenhower was. (before he started defending himself so manically)

[[M] Apollo]

Yes but are you looking for someone who you just want to get rid of, or are you looking for a mafian?

[[M] Anise]

Fair play. I'm not going to lie, that was a good point. I'm still sticking to my guns for the time being, however.

[[M] Helo]

The frantic manner of Dwight D. Eisenhower's posts are suspicious to me, but my original thoughts were that his role had some kind of posting or voting requirement. I don't think mafia would have that kind of trait, but then again this game has weird roles.

I will leave my vote as is, and pray that whoever gets lynched is mafia.

[[M] Apollo]

Barrack, there is almost never a posting requirement on a role. It has been in like 1 or 2 games(Horny Gay Faith Healer anyone?;))

[[M] Helo]

There are unique roles in play this time. There's no reason that they couldn't have used that sort of requirement. However, I do admit it's very unlikely.

I have to visit a school today, president stuff. (In order to clear this up, my "president talk" has actually been a way to talk about what I actually have to do without being boring. I have school now, I'll be back in about 8 hours.)

[[M] Anise]

Fine, I guess I have no choice. Clinton deserves another day, as he hasn’t said anything incriminating compared to the others. I hope this isn’t seen as scummy, but I think either one of them could be mafia; it is day one after all.
I have my sights firmly set on you, Clinton. I strongly suggest you contribute more to the game at hand tomorrow, especially as you’ve been given another chance.
We can only hope now that Eisenhower is mafia.


##Unvote: Bill Clinton
##Vote: Eisenhower.

[[M] Adama]

DAMMIT!

[[M] Anise]

I'm sorry Eisonhower, you were a good player. =)

[[M] Adama]

Well, maybe next time you'd vote for a Mafian, it's kinda clear that people who voted for me and never bothered to change after almost half an hour of waiting for someone to hop on a vanilla townie with no second guessing seems kinda lame. =(

[[M] Mom – Host]

Sweat poured down Dwight’s face as the town marched upon him holding stones. “No! No! I swear I didn’t do anything” he pleaded! “Save it for the judge!” a voice exclaimed from the crowd. Dwight continued to back up, crying “I’m nothing but an innocent bystander! I swear!” But the town would not listen. The continued toward him, Dwight took another step back and tripped over a stack of cards falling onto Teddy Roosevelt’s elephant gun, causing it to fire. Dwight was dead instantly.

Dwight D. Eisenhower was an Innocent Bystander played by Laddy. Thanks for playing!

EVERYONE PM THEIR NIGHT ACTIONS TO ME ASAP! THANKS!

Final Votecount

Dwight D. Eisenhower (5) - Thomas Jefferson, Barack Obama, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt
Bill Clinton (5) - John Adams, Ronald Reagan, FDR, Theodore Roosevelt, Jimmy Carter, Taft, George Bush Sr., Richard Nixon, Dwight D. Eisenhower
Theodore Roosevelt (3) - John Adams, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter
Taft (1) - George W. Bush
Barak Obama (1) - Bill Clinton
Abraham Lincoln (0) - <s>Ronald Reagan</s>
Thomas Jefferson (0) - <s>FDR</s>

Not Voting
John F. Kennedy (SHAME ON YOU!)

[[M] Mom – Host]

Jimmy Carter was out and about. Each morning he awoke at 6:10 for his morning jog. Just as he bent down to tie his shoes and walk out the door bullets sprayed through the walls, the windows. the floor and the ceiling. Miraculously they all missed. "I'm alive!" Carter exclaimed, and opened the door in excitement to tell the others. As he opened the door her heard a *clink*, and his house imploded in on itself creating a black hole.

Jimmy Carter was an innocent bystander. Played by f f freak! Thanks for playing!

Day 2 starts now! 24 hours! Go!

-Got to go now, if someone could put (- Day 2) and then some witty line that'd be cool. Good luck all!

[[M] Anise]

Okay, time to get down.

Yesterday was very productive, and overall, I believe it to be the best day one yet. I am aware we killed a townie, but in doing so we also drew lots of information out of other suspects, and managed to set ourselves up for day two better.

Jimmy Carter being killed at night is odd. We are lucky he was just an innocent bystander, but we are unfortunate to lose another townie.

Bill Clinton, I'm calling you out. I want you to post your suspicions, explain why you wouldn't be guilty, and make up for yesterday. A townie was killed for you, and I'm certain that you will be lynched without hesitation if you fail to contribute.

[[M] Apollo]

I am also going to be watching Bill Clinton. I hope you will start to post more. I am not really too suspisious of you, but if I can't find a better vote mine will be for you.

[[M] Anise]

Richard Nixon;2649358']##Vote: Bill Clinton

This is the only post Nixon made since the game technically began. This is the definition of under the radar.

[[M] Eizen]

I would also like to see some more posts by John Adams. As I stated earlier he had said he may evaluate his vote on me after more posting was done but, he never showed up again.

Bill needs to explain himself more also. As does Nixon.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

kthen, so we're all watching Bill and inactive people. Got it.


Anyway, I'll try to post something less useless when I get out of school :p

[[M] Athena]

As I tried to post earlier but almost posted via my regular EoFF account:

I should be here more today. If things come up, they come up, but I will certainly make time to post as much as I can, especially since there's a quota to be reached :(

Now, as for my list.

Clinton. (lol, almost typed "Clingon") You are still under my watch because of your lame defenses ("I was going to act smarter tomorrow but I don't think I'll get the chance.") and your lame reasonings (as I quoted yesterday) for voting. Now, a lot has happened between now and yesterday, so now's a good chance to redeem yourself, if you so choose. If you behave well enough, mommy will take you to the ice cream shop.

I also want to hear more from Nixon (who has only posted once that I can recall), John Adams, and Kennedy. Who do you find suspicious? Why? Please tell us! :eek:

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Also, I find it funny that I voted Eisenhower for doing stuff first when it was FDR. Whoops.

##Vote: FDR

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

...and I really don't think Bill's mafia, either. In fact I thought a lot of what happened yesterday was just dumb.

This is probably the last thing I post until lunch for real reals this time.

[[M] Anise]

Thomas Jefferson;2649734']Also, I find it funny that I voted Eisenhower for doing stuff first when it was FDR. Whoops.

##Vote: FDR

I explained myself quite well, I was offering Bill another chance because unlike Eisenhower, he hadn't done anything mafia-like.

[[M] Eizen]

I still think there's something funny about Bill. But in all reality it's still too early to really get a good grasp of how everything's going. yesterday was nuts.

We need to see a lot more from several people to get a good firm idea of who's who.

[[M] Athena]

I really don't see the problem with FDR. Maybe I'm just overlooking something, but it looks to me like he's just smart. *shrugs* I don't see a problem with keeping an eye out, but don't you think a vote for him this quick is a bit hasty?

[[M] Eizen]

I do think a vote this early is quick but, it may bring out his true colors.
I also don't get bad vibes from FDR but then again I thought Eisenhower was mafia so what do I know?

[[M] Athena]

Theodore Roosevelt;2649356'] ...at this point in time we need to start somewhere and focusing on one person may bring out their true colors. This kind of bugs me though, because it was said on day 1. Unless they're either a crap player or they're new, no one is going to crack on day 1 and "show their true colors." That's just how day 1 goes, it's a day for throwing votes around and prompting some discussion just to see what happens. Focusing in on one person is unnecessary unless you either a) know something we don't, or b) the person in question has said something absolutely positively scummy and believable.

Teddy saying what he said kind of sounds like a mafia ploy to me, trying to make an excuse for what he's doing. If it would have been said on, say, day 3 with only a couple of players left I could see why this technique would be used. However, circumstances make me want to question him for this.

However, it's too soon for me to tell. So, with that, I will read back more thoroughly and let y'all know what I think when I'm through!

[[M] Eizen]

That is very true. But you never know peole can mes up and if you can read between the lines, you can pick some information out. I don't mean that someone is going to come blatantly out just for having votes but, they may role claim or such and hopefully could be disproved. It's far too early to really get a good grasp of everyone since almost half the players are hardly posting :p

[[M] Athena]

Alright, where are Taft and JFK? So far I haven't seen all that much activity out of them...

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

I was half kidding when I voted you FDR, you're awfully defensive xD

As long as we don't do something dumb like speed lynch then it's no big deal. I'll probably change it later, someone's bound to say something odd. Unless that person is you, then it won't be changed.

[[M] Athena]

And, you make a good point, Teddy.

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

Come on guys. The posting on day 1 = mafia argument again? I'm not saying that there wasn't reason there, Laddy is suspicious no matter what role he has, but let's come up with some better reasoning.

I'm still suspicious of Teddy. Here's why. I wish I had time to post this yesterday because I think we could have spared poor Ike.

Theodore Roosevelt;2649307']##Vote: Bill Clinton.

I'm going to go with Bill also. I think Reagen is on to something.

Theodore Roosevelt;2649310']I think it's good to bandwagon at this point. If Bill is mafia he's going to try and do something. this way we can sort of flush him out I suppose.

Ronald Reagan;2649340']
Teddy, that was a foolish thing to say. Also, it's quite clear that part of the reason you voted Clinton was to save your own butt. While this is a reasonable action for a town or a maifa, you didn't even mention it. Mafia are more likely to try to save their hide without trying to seem like they are!


Theodore Roosevelt;2649343']We can't spend the entire day dicking around. There's going to be a bandwagon and someone has to start it.

Someone has to go.

Reagan you're coming on a bit strong as well with your long posts... maybe you're the mafia trying to save your own hide.
Notice how he originally says I was on to something but then turns on me once I vote for him. And how can I be trying to save my own hide when I hadn't been voted for or suspected at all yet? And we also see the posting = mafia argument, which is plain stupid. Next:

Theodore Roosevelt;2649375']I feel like he and reagen are following each other in votes to protect themselves or someone working with them

I could be completely wrong and they may be masons or something. But it seems scummy to me.



I was going to keep my vote on bill for self preservation but I felt that one of those two is scum and we need to get rid of them.
Two things. One, Ike and I were obviously not working together since a VT doesn't know anything else about other roles. Second, he's all of a sudden using the self-preservation argument only after I mentioned it.

I voted for Clinton yesterday because his acting like a fool made me think he was trying to post without contributing. I don't suspect him now. Why? He had ample opportunity to change his vote to Ike to keep himself in the game, but he didn't. Also his posts after getting the heat put on seem sincere and don't appear panicky. Scum or not, he needs to post more.

Why was carter killed? Could have been random, or could be trying to kill off voters for Teddy setting up the Clinton lynch for today. Clinton is too obvious and we need to broaden our horizons.

I also suspect George W. He made a lone vote for Taft and didn't do much otherwise. Mafia tend to spread out their votes on day 1. We have at least 3 scum in a 16 person game, possibly 4. Only JFK didn't vote so its pretty likely that the mafia spread their votes between Clinton and Ike and possibly one other.

That's enough for now.

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

Since I think I've said enough on Teddy, I'm going to go through the posts from day one with the knowledge that there were to townies among them, and see what I notice about other people. Might be a while before I get back to this, but I'll have some time later to play.

[[M] Athena]

*needs to up post count to keep the quota satisfied*

Well you do have a point about Teddy there, and same with George W.

Who do you suspect the most right now, Reagan? Obviously you hold something towards Teddy, but is there anyone else that comes to mind?

[[M] Athena]

Well, get back to me on that when you've read through, anyway :p

[[M] Athena]

Accounts in play:
Bill Clinton
John Adams
Andrew Jackson
Taft
George W. Bush
Theodore Roosevelt
Jimmy Carter - Innocent Bystander - Black Hole'd Night 1
FDR
Ronald Reagan
Barack Obama
Dwight D. Eisenhower - Innocent Bystander - Elephant Gunned Day 1
Abraham Lincoln
George Bush Sr.
Richard Nixon
John F. Kennedy
Thomas Jefferson

Alright this is the list so far.

Out of all of those mentioned, the following haven't posted all that much period:
George W.
JFK
Nixon
Obama

Out of those, Obama has posted the most. George W., Nixon, and JFK have posted a maximum of about 2-3 times each.

I'm not going to pin the inactives as mafians just yet, but we need to prod them into posting more so they can contribute so we can get a better general consensus of who needs to go next. Hopefully we'll actually get some scum this time :(

[[M] Athena]

Also, if I recall, John Adams hasn't said much either.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Don't forget inactives will be replaced.

[[M] Anise]

Bill Clinton;2649353'][quote='[M] FDR;2649349']It's not too late yet, Bill. Personally, I wouldn't mind killing Eisenhower, mainly because I think he is more scummy than anybody else right now.



Just to make a point more obvious, I said this hours before the final lynch. I don't want people to think it was completely out of the blue.

Also, I do apologise for being defensive. It was the first vote against me, and that's enough to make anybody feel a little taken aback. I endorse voting earlier and looking for a final vote later, it makes more discussion and allows us to avoid non-voters.

John Adams, however, voted for Roosevelt and said he would come back later and re-evaluate, which he never did. All I want is for him to come back and say something about it, because it's scummy to not touch upon things such as that. It was close to affecting the final day result as well, which is not a good thing. I could forgive him because of timezones, but he is aware of the time in his area, and should of given us some warning if he would be unable to get back on.
I will leave him for now though, as long as we get an explanation of some sort as to why he couldn't come.

Reagan seems to know what he's doing, and I think he will be a pivotal member to the town, if he is so aligned. However, the paranoid side of me says this could be a ploy, and Reagan is distancing himself from Roosevelt. I'm more inclined towards thinking it is genuine suspicion, but when playing a game such as this everything must be taken into account. I only bring Reagan up because he seems like a powerful player, which is good, as long as he's town.

Taft and Nixon seem like good ideas for an early vote though. Nixon's only contribution is an unexplained vote in the early stages, and Taft seems dodgy to me. He bandwagoned after Roosevelt did, and then promptly left. I feel these two may have been overlooked, and maybe we should focus, at this early stage on people like them.

I will vote Nixon, just because I want more activity from him, and he needs to sexplain his vote. I know inactives get replaced, but a mafia member could be inactive on purpose, and Nixon's sneaky vote could of been planted by the mafia. I will likely switch, but this is my best bet right now.

##Vote: Nixon.

I will watch and see what else unfolds before us. I am open to questions, for I have nothing to hide.

[[M] Athena]

my main focus at the moment would be Clinton. I know I'm really riding him hard (lol) about his style of posting day 1 but I believe it to be some sort of ruse, and that just plain unsettles me. I can't say much for certain because hey, it's just the beginning of day 2 yet and there are only a couple of us really active in the thread right now. But I just can't help the vibe I get off of him.

[[M] Eizen]

Alright, Reagan, I'll bite. If you've been gunning for me so hard, let's take a look at you, shall we?


Ronald Reagan;2648956']I'm looking at FDR right now for deleting a possibly suspicious post. But the first person to vote usually isn't mafia since it makes them stand out right away. Ike's post case in point. So I dunno.

#Vote: Abe Lincoln

Ike made a silly roleclaim and Abe followed it up maybe trying to fit in. Reaching here but at least it's better than making some comment about which president you are.

You also voted very quickly what seemed like to be no reason at all. Maybe trying not to bandwagon as to seem less suspicious.



Ronald Reagan;2648970']Overthinking is better than not thinking!

You said this and yet accused me of overthinking or posting too many times. Overthinking is never a good thing. That's what Mafia do. The best is to take what you can at face value and look into them a bit deeper when necessary, not just jumping on everything that "doesn't look right"



Ronald Reagan;2649267']
FDR;2649256']Eisenhower is bugging me. His vote on Roosevelt is just to save his skin, and that seems odd seeing as he seems bent on contribution. Perhaps instead of panic voting, it would be wiser to look at other members and provide your opinion on them? Asking for contribution but not providing much is scummy, but there must be more reasons to lynch than that.
I disagree with most of that. If I was in the lead votewise I'd do the same thing. Saving your skin is a perfectly acceptable move by a town player. It was a little too early to do that but it doesn't seem odd to me.

Quoting people throwing out random votes and asking why is what I meant by trying too hard. Trying to hard to look like you are trying. The earliest votes are random, plain and simple. But I hesitate to vote for someone who is actually stimulating discussion, which Ike is doing.

I was going to make a post similar to FDR's latest one. Clinton has just been joking around and not doing much of anything worthwhile. The other active players are at least trying to form opinions. Clinton may be trying to get his posts in without getting on anyone's radar. Let's try this and see where it goes.

#Unvote: Lincoln
#Vote: Clinton

Joking around is hardly grounds for putting someone up. Your constant vote changing makes me wary.


Ronald Reagan;2649340']Well this is a fine mess we're in. Now if Clinton is town the mafia doesn't have to make peep for the rest of the day (which I guess isn't that much longer).

Bandwagoning is never good because once the town starts gunning after someone the mafia can just sit back and let it happen. Unless we are very sure of a person's guilt we don't want to do this.

Teddy, that was a foolish thing to say. Also, it's quite clear that part of the reason you voted Clinton was to save your own butt. While this is a reasonable action for a town or a maifa, you didn't even mention it. Mafia are more likely to try to save their hide without trying to seem like they are!

I could be on to something, or I could be on to nothing. But ending the day with a simple Clinton gang up would be too easy for them.

#Unvote: Clinton
#Vote: Teddy R.

Bandwagoning, though the term is not the best, is the most we CAN do. Otherwise we're into sudden death mode. Yes, the mafia can just sit back once there is a bandwagon but changing your votes 26 times throughout the course of this game isn't going to get you many points either.

I'd have to say that Reagan is either mafia or cult. I don't trust this guy, and not only because he's gunning for me so bad, but because of his long rambling posts and vote changing. I'm not sure I can trust someone that's paranoid.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Eh, no point in prodding them. The mod'll take care of those below the limit, and those just above the limit will probably be lynched starting day four. That's how it usually goes anyway. As far as Carter's assassination goes, I think the mafia just figured it'd be the death that causes the least amount of trouble for them.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Also: Do not lynch Bill. I mean, I'm no cop or anything, but I'm pretty certain he's not mafia. It just feels like all those other times we vote off Townies for dumb reasons :|

[[M] Athena]

FDR;2649775'].
, and he needs to sexplain his vote.

Sorry but that made me laugh a little xD Freudian slip!

Back on the proper train of thought, Jefferson, how do you "know" Clinton is innocent?

[[M] Athena]

or, rather, what makes you so certain?

[[M] Anise]

Yeah, I want to know as well. Seems odd that you would be so certain.

[[M] Eizen]

I agree. How can one truly know unless you are working together?

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

FDR;2649775']Taft and Nixon seem like good ideas for an early vote though. Nixon's only contribution is an unexplained vote in the early stages, and Taft seems dodgy to me. He bandwagoned after Roosevelt did, and then promptly left. I feel these two may have been overlooked, and maybe we should focus, at this early stage on people like them.

I bandwagoned because I didn't feel like anything that had happened on Day 1 would have given me a better reason to vote someone else. Are you trying to say what I did was just as scummy as being voted because someone believed I was in possession of Weapons of Mass Destruction? :p

But really, I agree with you on that I'd like to hear what Nixon was thinking when he voted for Bill Clinton. Seriously, if you're town, didn't it ever cross your mind that doing something like that would seem really scummy?

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

I haven't checked the earlier posts yet. I will if I get bored enough later. It's more fun to react to things as they happen.

Let me respond to Teddy real quick. Ted, you are either really bad at this game or I have figured you out.

1. My vote for Lincoln was mostly random, and I changed it later. I feel the best way to get people talking in the beginning is to get a vote out there. At that early stage Lincoln was as good a bet as any for me. You can't read too much into what happens early on day 1, unless of course you are a mafia trying to spread lies.

2. I don't think I ever accused you of overthinking or posting too many times. Please point out where I did.

3. I changed my vote twice on day 1. That's not 26 times, and that was DAY ONE. The day with the least amount of information to go on. Of course people are going to change their votes then!

Here's the kicker:

Theodore Roosevelt;2649777']Joking around is hardly grounds for putting someone up. Your constant vote changing makes me wary.
You agreed with me right after I posted that, and, in fact, voted the same way! How can you accuse me of something you yourself did? At least I came up with my reasoning myself instead of playing follow the leader.

Gonna vote Teddy now because there is way too much inconsistency here. I'll unvote later if I see the need to, but this guy needs a vote on him.

<b>#Vote: Teddy R.</b>

Also let's keep an eye on Bush Sr. Calling out Jefferson for being so certain about Clinton smells like a mafia trying to flush out a cop. And my favorite Teddy bear also followed suit. I highly doubt both TJ and Clinton are scummates and if they were I don't think he would make that comment. That would be the only reason I see to call attention to it.

Not sure how I feel about FDR. He's playing a good game, but posting enough that he'd slip up sooner or later. No reason to get into it with him at the moment.

[[M] Anise]

Taft;2649794']
FDR;2649775']Taft and Nixon seem like good ideas for an early vote though. Nixon's only contribution is an unexplained vote in the early stages, and Taft seems dodgy to me. He bandwagoned after Roosevelt did, and then promptly left. I feel these two may have been overlooked, and maybe we should focus, at this early stage on people like them.

I bandwagoned because I didn't feel like anything that had happened on Day 1 would have given me a better reason to vote someone else. Are you trying to say what I did was just as scummy as being voted because someone believed I was in possession of Weapons of Mass Destruction? :p

But really, I agree with you on that I'd like to hear what Nixon was thinking when he voted for Bill Clinton. Seriously, if you're town, didn't it ever cross your mind that doing something like that would seem really scummy?

Okay, well I'm happy that you responded!

Reagan, are you sure you aren't being a tad harsh? Roosevelt is inconsistent and flippy floppy, but I don't get bad vibes from him. I suppose we're entitled to opinions though, and I can't say he's acting like a great town right now.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Votecount

Theodore Roosevelt (1) - Ronald Reagan
Richard Nixon (1) - FDR

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

Give me something better than inconsistent and flippy floppy to go on and I'll hear you out!

[[M] Athena]

How about Jefferson, who has yet to answer the Roosevelts and I about our question regarding Clinton? You don't find that dodgy, Reagan?

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

I actually found it worse that you guys jumped on him right away for that. Why would a mafia ever say something like that?

[[M] Anise]

Because sometimes people are spontaneous and don't think properly. If Jefferson is going to claim something like that, we will want an explanation, otherwise we could just be led into a trap.

[[M] Athena]

Because he could be a new player or a terrible player, so he doesn't know what the hell he's doing. Or it's an experienced player trying to trick us :shifty:

Either way, it just doesn't sit right, especially because he really had no back up, simply "I'm certain he's innocent." Poor. Very poor.

[[M] Anise]

##Unvote: Nixon
##Vote: Thomas Jefferson.

I am likely to change, but I'm off for a while and I'd like to apply some pressure. Keep interrogating people! There are too many directions which aren't leading anywhere.

[[M] Athena]

I'm going to hold back on my vote until we hear from some more people. I'd like to give those under the microscope to at least have a chance to explain.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Votecount

FDR (1) - Thomas Jefferson
Nixon (0) - <s>FDR</s>
Teddy Roosevelt (1) - Ronald Reagan
Thomas Jefferson (1) - FDR


Not Voting

Bill Clinton, John Adams, Andrew Jackson, Taft, George W. Bush, Theodore Roosevelt, Barack Obama, Abraham Lincoln, George Bush Sr., Richard Nixon, John F. Kennedy

[[M] Eizen]

I agree with Sr. after my horrid play yesterday I'd like to take a little wait and see approach. There are a few of us that are pretty active and many that aren't I'd like to hear more from them before I make any votes or any more assumptions.

[[M] Athena]

How much time left, Washy washy?

[[M] Mom – Host]

At around 8 AM EST tomorrow. So that's about 15 hours from now.

[[M] Athena]

Okay.

Also, can you update the post count? I'm not sure which posts you actually count towards the quota and I want to make sure i'm good to go so far.

[[M] Apollo]

Hmmm... What Jefferson said seems pretty familiar to me... Oh right!


Abraham Lincoln;2649362']Wtf? People, why are we voting off the idiot? Look back, and you can see that almost every person in the previous games that wasn't smart were townies. Plus, he said that he would contribute more and be less of an idiot.

Yeah I said that first, but you can't be sure that Bill is innocent. If he doesn't improve, and if I don't find someone better, as I said, he will be getting my vote. I would rather vote off someone who I am not fully sure of then vote off a possibly useful townie.

These inactives I just have to wait on, hopefully they will be replaced. I can only really look at the active people, and on day three there will be a rush of people who don't want to be replaced, so we can hopefully learn something there. As Roosevelt just said, we have to wait and see.

And now Thomas...


FDR;2649745']I explained myself quite well, I was offering Bill another chance because unlike Eisenhower, he hadn't done anything mafia-like.

How the heck is this defensive in any way? It seems to me like you are trying to give him some extra attention for some reason...

[[M] Apollo]

Expanding on the idea of my last post(I just made the connection)...

I think you are trying to give him a little bit of attention so he might possibly be discreditted a little bit because you feel threatened by him. By saying he is a defensive player, people may not believe his offence quite like they would before. FDR does seem like a very smart player, so thats why I think you are doing this. Now, with your role changing, I find it just as likely that you would have stayed a townie as you would have become a mafia, because George might not want someone to be so confirmed.

Also, with FDR's deleted post, I originally thought that he made a post here that he possibly meant to do at the mafia forum, but he seems too smart to do that right now.

[[M] Anise]

I regret the deleted post. I assure you it was me whining though. I was annoyed the day wasn't starting, but the hosts don't need any hassle.

And yes, thank you very much for pointing the "defensive" thing out to me. It makes me more suspicious of Jefferson.

[[M] Mom – Host]

George Bush Sr.;2649848']Also, can you update the post count? I'm not sure which posts you actually count towards the quota and I want to make sure i'm good to go so far.

There where a few posts made before day one which did not count toward peoples total. (You only made one of these so minus 1 from your total thread post count and you have your total post count).

[[M] Athena]

ooh ok

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Allright, I'll try to get more into this. I've been quite busy with friends lately, I've been having a blast actually, I simply can't say no if a friend asks to hang out. I've asked for a partner though, so maybe this will increase my activity.

Allright, here's my thoughts..

I'm very interested in knowing Bill Clinton's alignment. Interested enough to kill him? I'm a bit tempted, but I'm not sure if I want to go in that direction. I think it would pretty much clear Reagan if he flipped town, and it would incriminate some of the later voters for Clinton if he flipped scum. At one point it seemed Clinton was the clear loser with a massive bandwagon on him. If he's mafia, maybe it would be wise of one or two of his fellows to also cast a vote on him. Reagan did a risky move and pretty much saved his ass by ending the bandwagon and calling out those who had piled on top. That would be a risky move from a mafia on day 1. They could risk losing two mafia.

edit: If Clinton is mafia, then maybe Taft or Nixon is too. I'm definitely getting some vibes from Taft.

I think Reagan is on to something with his arguments towards Roosevelt. I was thinking some of them myself while reading through this thread actually. He was suspecting both Reagan and Clinton, but as I see it, it's very unlikely that both Clinton and Reagan are mafia. Looks more like he's searching for someone to throw suspicion on. Could just be that he slipped up or missed some information before posting though.

Abraham Lincoln I'm getting a vibe from. I don't have anything concrete, but it's just a feeling of him being a little too helpful without actually being helpful. Sure, he brings some logic and actual helpfulness to the plate, but some of it seems like he's trying too hard, asking casual questions he already knows the answer to.

I'd like to vote for Roosevelt for now, see what that leads to. I... promise to check back in again before the day is over!

##Vote: T. Roosevelt

And roosevelt, about yesterday, I didn't mean that I would expand on why I suspected you, I already said everything in my post then. What I meant by saying I would be back was that, if anyone more suspicious than you popped up, maybe I'd vote for them. Same now actually, I'm waiting and thinking, I'm not holding anything back.

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

Theodore Roosevelt;2649786']I agree. How can one truly know unless you are working together?

If he was mafia, he'd know I was town.

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

I mean I am, not I was.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Okay. Guys. "xD." I put the "xD" at the end of the sentence where I said he was being defensive so you wouldn't think I was being serious when I was joking again. Please stop being dumb.


George Bush Sr.;2649826']How about Jefferson, who has yet to answer the Roosevelts and I about our question regarding Clinton? You don't find that dodgy, Reagan?

I told you all I was in school. The bell rang not too long after I posted that. It's 5:11PM right now, and I'm nice and cozy on my laptop at home, ready to post.


FDR;2649831']Because sometimes people are spontaneous and don't think properly. If Jefferson is going to claim something like that, we will want an explanation, otherwise we could just be led into a trap.

I gave you my explanation.


Thomas Jefferson;2649779']Also: Do not lynch Bill. I mean, I'm no cop or anything, but I'm pretty certain he's not mafia. It just feels like all those other times we vote off Townies for dumb reasons :|

What, did you want a huge block of quoted posts and some solid "logic"? Well you're not getting any. I hardly find the things said against him enough to vote for him. It feels like they were said just for the sake of saying something.

I still say we don't lynch him.

[[M] Eizen]

that is very true Bill.
And John I understand what you meant by that now, sorry for that.
I still think Reagen is trying to flip things and get any (not that there seems to be much) heat off him. I'm glad to see some more people being active but I'd still really like to hear from Nixon and Taft asap. Both have a scummy smell to them, have hardly been active and give little insight into their votes. I'm no mafia finding wizard but at least I'm trying xD

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

Thomas Jefferson;2649884']
Thomas Jefferson;2649779']Also: Do not lynch Bill. I mean, I'm no cop or anything, but I'm pretty certain he's not mafia. It just feels like all those other times we vote off Townies for dumb reasons :|

What, did you want a huge block of quoted posts and some solid "logic"? Well you're not getting any. I hardly find the things said against him enough to vote for him. It feels like they were said just for the sake of saying something.

I still say we don't lynch him.

That doesn't explain why you are certain I'm town.

[[M] Eizen]

I agree that besides a feeling you have to have more information if you're so sure he's not mafia.

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

After reading a few posts, I don't really see why Clinton is being attacked so harshly over some Day 1 nonsense. My gut feeling tells me Clinton and Jefferson are town. But I guess my gut isn't that convincing to any of you.


John Adams;2649881']edit: If Clinton is mafia, then maybe Taft or Nixon is too. I'm definitely getting some vibes from Taft.

I don't see how Clinton turning up Mafia would make me more likely to be Mafia too. I am more than willing to solve any "vibe" issues you may have. :monster:

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Fine. You're mafia. Happy now?

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

Theodore Roosevelt;2649886']that is very true Bill.
And John I understand what you meant by that now, sorry for that.
I still think Reagen is trying to flip things and get any (not that there seems to be much) heat off him. I'm glad to see some more people being active but I'd still really like to hear from Nixon and Taft asap. Both have a scummy smell to them, have hardly been active and give little insight into their votes. I'm no mafia finding wizard but at least I'm trying xD

Oh, this was posted while I was typing my last reply. TBH I'm just like you, my inexperience is in the way of me seeing who is actually scummy, but even then I still see Nixon as scum.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

And thank you Taft, did I ever tell you that Taft is my favorite president name :</>D?

[[M] Anise]

Well if voting for Clinton is dumb, then how about I vote for you and see what you flip? Then we can see why you're so sure about Clinton.