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Darkswordofchaos
03-25-2009, 07:33 PM
do you belive in them?

Personally i do the might not be cappable of intersteller travell much like us but that dosent mean there not out there.

My thinking is of all off the trillons and trillons of planets in this gallexy and all off the billons and billons of galexys out there it seem like a mathmatical high improbability that earth is the only life supporting planet out there.

escobert
03-25-2009, 07:39 PM
The drake equation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation) says there are at least 1000 earth like planets in our galaxy so I'd assume one must have some kind of life.

Psychotic
03-25-2009, 08:09 PM
Yes they took me into one of their spaceships and forced me to make love to a beautiful alien woman who had bright red hair and slightly purple skin! What? No, of course I'm not a loser!

scrumpleberry
03-25-2009, 08:10 PM
I think there's some sort of other sentient beings "out there" because, well, how could there not be? I don't worry about them killing us or anything because that'd be silly. If they did find us, and if they're anything like us I should think they'd be fascinated and want to study us a bit or try to communicate, rather than just killing us.

But aliens haven't found us yet and they probably won't for a while.

captkrill
03-25-2009, 08:12 PM
Yes,

Bacterial/algae colonization on planets or rock is technically a form of extraterrestrial life form. There is almost no chance of any form of water not containing one of these...look at the Mariana Trench bacteria live and thrive there with 8 tons PSI at the deepest points. Bacteria that thrive in waters with that kinda of pressure and temperature would be thought to live in extreme climate conditions on planets outside of our solar system...

No it does not have appendages or tendons ligaments, muscle tissue, brain stems or anything that would form a person or animal, but it still is multi-cellular. In essence everything boils down to being able to survive and evolve...much like we did ~4.5 billion of years ago...

Rocket Edge
03-25-2009, 08:13 PM
Its impossible not to think that there isn't another life form out there.

escobert
03-25-2009, 08:17 PM
They're doing studies on Saturn's moon Europa which is believed to have an ocean that is about 4 million years old, about the same age when life started evolving in Earths waters. I believe there is a probe either going soon or on it's way there.

Aerith's Knight
03-25-2009, 08:21 PM
Even if there was, the distances in space would make meeting them impossible(or them us), so don't trouble yourself.

Darkswordofchaos
03-25-2009, 08:46 PM
They're doing studies on Saturn's moon Europa which is believed to have an ocean that is about 4 million years old, about the same age when life started evolving in Earths waters. I believe there is a probe either going soon or on it's way there.

I seen a thing about that

Fermi paradox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox)

escobert
03-25-2009, 08:46 PM
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FFIX Choco Boy
03-25-2009, 08:47 PM
Of course there's aliens, the cosmic coincidence that created life here must have happened other places, too.

Darkswordofchaos
03-25-2009, 08:49 PM
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Aerith's Knight
03-25-2009, 09:00 PM
They're doing studies on Saturn's moon Europa which is believed to have an ocean that is about 4 million years old, about the same age when life started evolving in Earths waters. I believe there is a probe either going soon or on it's way there.

I seen a thing about that

Fermi paradox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox)


addressed in fields as diverse as astronomy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomy), biology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology), ecology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecology), and philosophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy)

Ergo, fields that aren't really science, so I don't care about. xD

Caraliz
03-25-2009, 09:03 PM
Awesome.

I don't believe in aliens because I'm a heathen.

I believe in Chrono Cross's split worlds though :D

demondude
03-25-2009, 09:05 PM
They're doing studies on Saturn's moon Europa which is believed to have an ocean that is about 4 million years old, about the same age when life started evolving in Earths waters. I believe there is a probe either going soon or on it's way there.

I seen a thing about that

Fermi paradox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox)


addressed in fields as diverse as astronomy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomy), biology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology), ecology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecology), and philosophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy)

Ergo, fields that aren't really science, so I don't care about. xD

Since when was Biology not a science?

escobert
03-25-2009, 09:06 PM
They're doing studies on Saturn's moon Europa which is believed to have an ocean that is about 4 million years old, about the same age when life started evolving in Earths waters. I believe there is a probe either going soon or on it's way there.

I seen a thing about that

Fermi paradox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox)


addressed in fields as diverse as astronomy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomy), biology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology), ecology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecology), and philosophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy)

Ergo, fields that aren't really science, so I don't care about. xD

Biology isn't a real scientific field? And Neither is Astronomy? oh and ecology too? Philosophy is the only where that isn't scientific...

rubah
03-25-2009, 09:08 PM
He's just being a snob, guys, I mean he didn't even use "Ergo" right!

Aerith's Knight
03-25-2009, 09:16 PM
I take back the Astronomy, as long as it includes Astrophysics. Not the rest. Biology is applied chemistry and chemistry is applied Physics.

I count how much of a science it is by the amount of math you need to do it. The count at biology is zero, which means it's only studying nice pictures of bodies, which means that the local kids who managed to get hold of a playboy are as much of a scientist as that. :p

Just joking, but I do stand behind the fact that it isn't a science

edit: Actually, now that I think about it, my friends back in the US and me once had a talk about that none of the things ending on -gy is a science, but that was let go because of metrology, which is a science.

Miriel
03-25-2009, 09:22 PM
Dude. You can't just make up your own definition of science and then go around labeling things "science" and "not science". Biology is a science. It's just a fact.

As for Aliens, I hope they exist, but I somehow doubt it. I'm not talking about fungus or bacteria, I'm talking full fledged intelligent beings. If they are out there, I don't think they'd be anything like us. If there were beings out there who are intelligent and have civilizations and cultures, I would be delighted. I think that would be amazing.

Moon Rabbits
03-25-2009, 09:23 PM
The drake equation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation) says there are at least 1000 earth like planets in our galaxy so I'd assume one must have some kind of life.

The Drake Equation is a load of bullocks, imho.


I take back the Astronomy, as long as it includes Astrophysics. Not the rest. Biology is applied chemistry and chemistry is applied Physics.


And physics is just applied math. By your standards, then, math is the only true science. Huh! I guess science doesn't really exist.

On topic: yes, yes I do believe in aliens.

Aerith's Knight
03-25-2009, 09:32 PM
The drake equation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation) says there are at least 1000 earth like planets in our galaxy so I'd assume one must have some kind of life.

The Drake Equation is a load of bullocks, imho.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/the_drake_equation.png




I take back the Astronomy, as long as it includes Astrophysics. Not the rest. Biology is applied chemistry and chemistry is applied Physics.


And physics is just applied math. By your standards, then, math is the only true science. Huh! I guess science doesn't really exist.
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Physics is to math as sex is to mastrubation.

o_O
03-25-2009, 11:22 PM
The drake equation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation) says there are at least 1000 earth like planets in our galaxy so I'd assume one must have some kind of life.

The Drake Equation is a load of bullocks, imho.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/the_drake_equation.png




I take back the Astronomy, as long as it includes Astrophysics. Not the rest. Biology is applied chemistry and chemistry is applied Physics.


And physics is just applied math. By your standards, then, math is the only true science. Huh! I guess science doesn't really exist.
.

Physics is to math as sex is to mastrubation.

Clearly you haven't seen this then :p:
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/purity.png

Aerith's Knight
03-26-2009, 12:12 AM
Actually I did, check the alt-text. :p

Bunny
03-26-2009, 12:22 AM
I do not believe in Aliens because God would not create another race. Human Beings are his favored children and therefore, it would be religiously impossible for another intelligent race to exist on a planet that is not Earth.

Ergo my Eggo, Iago.

blackmage_nuke
03-26-2009, 12:26 AM
I had a feeling AK was referencing xkcd without refering in hopes that people would think him original.

As for aliens im pretty sure they exist somewhere.

Darkswordofchaos
03-26-2009, 12:48 AM
Yeah all of the ologys are in fact forms of science.

Humans admitadtly dont know anything i mean we dont even know how our own bodys completley work so im sure theres a lot of difrent ways to search the univers we dont even know about

Balzac
03-26-2009, 01:21 AM
I learnt all I know about physics from reading xkcd.

P.s. It's not that I don't believe in aliens, it's just that I don't really care.

Beyond
03-26-2009, 01:35 AM
Philosophy is the only where that isn't scientific...
Robert Heinlein would like a word with you.

Meat Puppet
03-26-2009, 05:09 AM
They're doing studies on Saturn's moon Europa
Europa is Jupiter’s moon. Sorry I... just had to be a dick. I know what you mean, though, with the ocean under the ice and all that jazz.

There is a probe on Saturn’s moon Titan, though. I was actually just thinking about that today... to look at Saturn (or roughly in its direction), and there is something man-made on one of its moons. Fancy that! Something so far away and there are members of my species that have managed to tickle it with their technology. I think that’s pretty swell. That’s just one among many but... whatever.


As to whether or not there’s life somewhere else in the Universe, I’d say yeah. Sure. It’s a pretty big place, so there’s a lot of possibilities. Will we ever know about it? I don’t really see that happening. It’s kind of unfortunate, you know, I kinda wish I could experience that. Yeah, it’s Mars’s fault for being a barren little bastard. It was our closest chance and everything else is just... too far away.

Caraliz
03-26-2009, 03:33 PM
Stupid bacteria.

Darkswordofchaos
03-26-2009, 05:39 PM
As to whether or not there’s life somewhere else in the Universe, I’d say yeah. Sure. It’s a pretty big place, so there’s a lot of possibilities. Will we ever know about it? I don’t really see that happening. It’s kind of unfortunate, you know, I kinda wish I could experience that. Yeah, it’s Mars’s fault for being a barren little bastard. It was our closest chance and everything else is just... too far away.[/j]


Yeap that would be pretty cool. I woul kinda like to have the powers of DR. Manhatten just so i could explor the entire universe

Madame Adequate
03-27-2009, 01:32 AM
I take back the Astronomy, as long as it includes Astrophysics. Not the rest. Biology is applied chemistry and chemistry is applied Physics.

I count how much of a science it is by the amount of math you need to do it. The count at biology is zero, which means it's only studying nice pictures of bodies, which means that the local kids who managed to get hold of a playboy are as much of a scientist as that. :p

I've heard this "X is just applied Y" stuff before, such as in that xkcd, but I've yet to meet the person who can supply a purely mathematic explanation for why the blue-ringed octopus is so deadly, nevermind, for instance, the impact of Polish immigration on the cohesion of earlier immigrant communities in Great Britain :monster: Get back to me on that and we'll talk.

Oh, and as for life: Yes, more of it than most expect, in more extreme places than most conceive. Life is everywhere it can possibly be and some places it really oughtn't to.

Rikku_Yuffie_girl
03-27-2009, 01:44 AM
I believe something is out there.

DynasticJam
03-27-2009, 02:06 AM
My belief is that there's life far more advanced than humanity, and that they could be responsible for the creation of our universe. It's quite possible that the big bang could have been triggered by another civilization. Maybe one day we'll be able to do the same.

Moon Rabbits
03-27-2009, 02:25 AM
I had a feeling AK was referencing xkcd without refering in hopes that people would think him original.


I'm pretty sure a lot more people on a Final Fantasy board would know about xkcd than just a single one.

Darkswordofchaos
03-27-2009, 05:19 PM
My belief is that there's life far more advanced than humanity, and that they could be responsible for the creation of our universe. It's quite possible that the big bang could have been triggered by another civilization. Maybe one day we'll be able to do the same.


Idk bout that but there is definatly others out there.

Even if there was one advanced civilizaton in each galaxy (witch i doubt) that would mean there are still millons of civilizations out there.