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KHHacker6595
05-27-2009, 01:38 AM
Villain of FFXI[XI]
Vaan[XII]
Lightning[XIII]
Villain of FFXIII[XIII]

Am i right, there wont be other supporting cast in the sequel if its made. Dont hope for Setzer or Vincent in the game cause that takes the whole system of the game out of it. Its just main Heros and main Villains.

Wolf Kanno
05-27-2009, 02:38 AM
Villain of FFVI[VI]
Vaan[VII]
Lightning[VIII]
Villain of VIII[VIII]

Am i right, there wont be other supporting cast in the sequel if its made. Dont hope for Setzer or Vincent in the game cause that takes the whole system of the game out of it. Its just main Heros and main Villains.

I think your numbers are off for some of them. Vaan is from XII and Lightning is from XIII. Also VI and VIII's villains are in the game so I'm assuming you mean final bosses from XI and XIII.

The Dissidia team decided not to put Lightning in the game cause they didn't want to give away elements from XIII and didn't want to let fans know what she was like before the game she stars in comes out.

XI and XII were thrown in as secret characters cause they wanted to have representations for these games as well but time restrictions prevented going all out. Besides, XI's nature makes it difficult to discern a true villain and hero... XII was too recent. Personally, since Gabranth was chosen for lead villain in XII I feel Basch is more fitting for hero.

As for side characters, a few villains make appearances as summons as I know Golbez's Four Elemental Fiends are summons. They did have a few planned, Kain for instance was planned as a secret character until the very end when they finally dropped him to make deadline. Nomura mentioned in an article how much he wanted Kain in the game.

Dissidia has done fairly well in Japan and may do very well in the US and PAL regions. There is a good chance it will get a sequel and we may get to see more characters. ;)

KHHacker6595
05-27-2009, 03:06 PM
damn i accidentely put V instead of X

maybe ur right about The Basch thing but i think the game should just stick to main heros and main villains. They dont need to add supporting casts, thats at least my opinion. Oh and if anyone finds a villain for XI tell me.

Rantz
05-27-2009, 03:53 PM
KHHacker, if your post is the last in a thread, don't make a new one. Use the edit/delete button to add to your last post if you have something new to add. Thank you! :)

Wolf Kanno
05-27-2009, 07:05 PM
maybe ur right about The Basch thing but i think the game should just stick to main heros and main villains. They dont need to add supporting casts, thats at least my opinion. Oh and if anyone finds a villain for XI tell me.

If you think about it from a story perspective, Vaan isn't the lead character, its Lady Ashe. Vaan's story ends a few hours in pretty much when Lady Ashe joins the crew and you go on her quest for revenge and understanding. The staff itself has mentioned that XII has no lead character and unlike IX which boasted a similar ideal, Vaan never emerges as a main character like Zidane did. ;)

Gabranth was probably chosen cause he's the iconic figure of XII that best represents the game. Besides, I can't see Vayne being good in a fighting game.

KHHacker6595
05-27-2009, 08:19 PM
i still think that Basch now that you mentioned it is the real main character especially if your trying to have a match for Gabranth. As for XI, do you know any Villain they could use?

Wolf Kanno
05-27-2009, 08:23 PM
No, but then again Shantotto(sp?) really can double as both. She's pretty evil in her own way... :eep: Being an MMO sorta throws everything off for XI.

Sephiroth
05-27-2009, 09:54 PM
Who should be in Dissidia?

Lightwarrior
Garland
Firion
Mateus
Onion Knight
Luneth
Zande
Dark Cloud
Cecil
Kain
Golbez
Zemus
Bartz
X-Death
Terra
Kefka
Cloud
Zack
Genesis
Sephiroth
Squall
Seifer
Edea
Ultimecia
Zidane
Sarah or Vivi (Vivi is better for the Black Waltz)
Black Waltz # III (just too cool)
Kuja
Tidus
Yuna
Seymour
Jecht
Shantotto
Silver-haired guy (can't remember the name; I don't play XI anymore)
Vaan
Ashelia
Gabranth
Vayne
Lightning
whoever the villain of XIII will be

f f freak
05-28-2009, 02:01 AM
All I know is that more female characters should have been in it. Seriously, Tifa would have been perfect for a fighting game. She was already in Ergheiz(sp?) with a bunch of other FFVII characters as well.
So, I think the following female characters should have been added:
Rydia
Celes (Perhaps too similar to Terra though?)
Tifa
Yuffie
Freya
Beatrix
Ashe/Fran (Either of these two really. Could be interesting to play as Fran, if only for the ranged weapon aspect.)

Considering there's only like 4(?) females in Dissidia, this isn't a great deal to ask, compared to there being 18(?) males.

qwertysaur
05-28-2009, 09:23 AM
You do know that Lightning was planned for Dissida, but removed because her inclusion would rush the development of her abilities,

I would add a few characters to Dissidia II.
Cosmos
FFI: Warrior of Light (Red Mage) Functions as a standard red mage. Average in all aspects, but versitile. Ex mode is Red Wizard
FFIII: Refia with the Scholar Job. Her fighting style is based on stong precise hits. Ex mode is class change to Warlock, giving her attacks a much wider range.
FFV: Faris. While Bartz is based on the mime job, Faris embodies the Freelancer, able to use several different fighting styles. Ex mode increases her stats. Ex burst is a tandem attack with Syldra.
FFVI: Setzer. Gambler as a fighter. Fun :D Ex burst is a fixed Slot machine.
FFVII: Tifa. She explains herself as well. Ex burst is Seventh Heaven
FFIX: Vivi. Little mage, big power. Double Black trance for Ex mode. Double Doomsday for Ex Burst
FFXII: Fran. Kinda like her RW abilities, inflicts status effects on her foes with her arrows. Ex burst is a quickening.
Secret! FFXIII: Lightning. She apparently has gravity manipulative abilities. That would be fun to use in a fight.
Secret! FFTA2: Adell: Standard job is lackluster thief. Ex mode is her Herator abilities. Her strengthis she is able to enter Ex mode more often than any other fighter.

Chaos
FFII: Leon/Black Knight. Melee with a touch of poision magic
FFIV: Zemus. He is a blank slate, and could be anything. Ex mode is Zeromus, ex burst is Big Bang.
FFVI: Shadow. Chaos hires him, and the sword for hire obliges. The ranged fighter of the Chaos team
FFVII: Hojo. The mad scientist uses his monster transformations.
FFVIII: Seifer. A mirror of Squall. Kinda boring but it fits the story very nicely.
FFIX: Beatrix. Bhrane follows Chaos as an NPC, and Beatrix is loyal to her queen, even though she questions why she fights.
FFX: Yunalesca. Medusa snakebite, go!
Secret! FFXII: Vayne: Hand to hand combat. Ex is the undying.
Secret! FFV/VIII/XII: Gilgamesh. If he needs explaining, you need to play FFV, or VIII, or XII.

KHHacker6595
05-28-2009, 09:38 PM
They already said that the format of the game is main hero vs main villain. i dont think they will put supporting characters in it. sorry

Heath
05-28-2009, 11:01 PM
Quina. Don Corneo. Tellah.

Evastio
05-29-2009, 02:58 AM
Don Corneo.
YES.

Along with the "What's Mythril? Is it yummy?" kid from FFII, Palmer and his truck full of reinforcements, and the Commanders who lead the attack on Fabul in FFIV. It would make the game insanely amusing.


...on a more serious note though, I actually prefer the character cast the way it is (except maybe switch the Onion Knight with Luneth and Cloud of Darkness with Zande). Since it's all the main FF characters on the good guy side (except in FFXI's case since, well, you're fully customizing your character and it's hard to represent that in a fighting game) it helps prevent a lot of fanboyish character requests, which in turn prevents biasedness in the character choice as well as people's character requests being overshadowed by others. At least by having the main characters only, it's understandable that only they made it in, since it's only reasonable that the central character to that FF's story is represented. I've seen a lot of absolutely ridiculous and selfish requests for Dissidia which would probably kill the game for other people.

As for the villains, I think they made reasonable choices for which bad guy characters to use. Then again, the choices were kind of obvious.

sir helix
06-03-2009, 06:46 PM
all party members should be able to be unlocked, as well as importent bosses (equal amount of charecters of course)

KHHacker6595
06-04-2009, 11:07 PM
Again it will only be Main Heros and Main Villains. So stop thinking they'll put supportng characters in it.

Masamunemaster
06-05-2009, 05:14 AM
haha XI could deffinatly be absolute virtue...or pandy warden...imagine how much fun those would be:radred:

NeoCracker
06-06-2009, 07:24 AM
Again it will only be Main Heros and Main Villains. So stop thinking they'll put supportng characters in it.

You made this topic and named it characters that SHOULD be in it, not characters that ARE going to be in it, so thats exactly what we're doing. :p

Besides, we already know all the characters that are going to be in it.

Anyway, Sabin would totally be awesome. All those fun Blitz moves, and then you could make his EX Burst or whatever Tiger Break. ^_^

Masamunemaster
06-06-2009, 09:16 AM
yea but his cannon would be soooo slow...

The Crystal
06-06-2009, 06:47 PM
Whoever said that FFXI have no main villain, doesn't know what he/she is talking about.
FFXI have many expansions/parts, each one with a main villain.

From the top of my head:
FFXI - Ring of Fire: Shadow Lord
FFXI - Rise of the Zilarth: Eald'narche
FFXI - Chains of Promathia: Promathia

And there still is two expansions(ToAU and WotG), with two different main villains.

black orb
06-12-2009, 11:58 PM
>>> Silly square, they forgot to put Vaan.

KHHacker6595
06-13-2009, 01:15 PM
Vaan in my opinion wasnt much of a hero, he reminded me of aladdin. if they make a dissidia 2 it will either be Vaan or Basch to play the hero. Id rather have Basch because his brother is Gabranth. It would work better.

roen
06-21-2009, 02:36 AM
I'd really love to see Dagger, Vivi, and Quina in this game.

Skyblade
06-21-2009, 02:54 AM
Again it will only be Main Heros and Main Villains. So stop thinking they'll put supportng characters in it.

This has not been confirmed at all. A sequel may well contain supporting characters, as Nomura even stated that in an interview for the Ultimania that "Kain is definitely in".

Auron.

Wolf Kanno
06-21-2009, 05:17 AM
Its true that Nomura mentioned in an interview that Kain was a hidden character for Dissidia until the very last minute when he got cut. He was really wanting him to be in the game cause Kain's his favorite FF character that he didn't create. I would bet damn good money we will see way more support characters in a Dissidia 2. ;)

Skyblade
06-21-2009, 06:00 AM
What I said was a direct quote from his Ultimania interview. Taken a little out of context, perhaps, but still...


Nomura: If we stick exactly to final bosses, we’d get characters such as FFX’s Yu Yevon. Characters who it would be difficult to give much personality to, or whose design doesn’t fit in with a fighting game. So I thought that it would be better to take characters with a rivalry, or with strong connections. Also, I personally really wanted to have Kain in the game. Originally we planned to have about 5 hidden characters, and even as that number started to shrink, Kain remained a candidate right to the end. When it was finally decided to cut him I said, “for FFIV’s Chaos character wouldn’t Kain and not Golbez be fine?” But we had to think of the balance with the other titles, and he was cut.

And from later in the interview...


Nomura: Well, if we did a sequel I think Kain is definitely in (laughs). I’ve got a lot of interesting ideas, but as far as the situation goes actually going ahead with the project would be tricky… If there were enough demand for a Dissidia II, the situation might change, so I think I’d like to rethink it at that time.

So, yeah. Maybe the first one was all main characters, but I highly doubt a sequel would be. For one thing, there are tons of supporting characters who have massive fanbases to capitalize on. For another, how else would you justify a sequel? I mean, you would be adding, what, four new characters? Six at a maximum (and that would be if they wanted to release character info of FFXIV, which is unlikely). Sorry, but no. To do a sequel, they would have to add in more characters, and that pretty much guarantees delving into the support characters. Ideally, we'd be looking at one support hero/villain per game, which would give us...

-Red Mage / Astos or Bikke
-Minwu ('cause he rocks, even though it would probably go to Maria) / Um, yeah, can't think of any real good option here.
-Summoner (or any other job change, I picked this one because it should have fairly unique gameplay) / Xande
-Rosa (sorry, Tellah, but she'd be the obvious one, due to relationship with Kain) / Kain
-Faris (don't want too many healer/cleric sidekicks, which is why no Lenna) / Gilgamesh (win)
-Locke or Setzer, would be my guess (thief or chance based gameplay) / Gesthal
-Tifa (fun combo-based brawler) / Rufus (perhaps you only fight him once, but he is the other recurring villain here, especially since there's no way you could separate Reno and Rude)
-Rinoa / Seifer
-Garnet (summoner gameplay again) / Haven't played enough to choose a good secondary villain. I know, shame on me.
-Auron / Seymour (hate his guts, but, again, limited options)
-Pick a few, I'm probably never going to play this
-Balthier and Fran (no hero from XII in Dissidia, so two for the sequel) / Vayne
-Lightning / Villain


Although I suppose we could cheat a little...

Ramza / Delita (I always think of that psycho as the villain, but you can pick another)
Marche / Llednar (or Remedi, if she was done well enough)
Luso / Illua
Sora / Ansem
Chrono / Magus

Masamunemaster
06-21-2009, 06:39 AM
hmmm FF9 could be that garland?? or find some kind of lame battle set for brahne lol

Skyblade
06-21-2009, 06:46 AM
Ah, Garland would work. Forgot about him and really didn't want to do Brahne.

Oh, duh. Beatrix. Problem solved.

NeoCracker
06-21-2009, 08:41 AM
I think Edger/Ghestal or Celes/Ghestal makes more sense then Locke or Setzer as far as rivals go, and Frog/Magus more so then Crono and Magus. :p

Though I'd like to see Magus/Ozzie, Magus for the good guys.

Skyblade
06-21-2009, 05:41 PM
Yeah, you're probably right, I'm just curious as to how they'd be implemented in gameplay. Setzer especially. The gambler spirit would be interesting to see in-game.

Magus would definitely be a warrior of Chaos in the beginning, even if he doesn't stay that way (like Jecht is now).

I didn't choose Frog because of the focus of main heroes/enemies. If we add a new game, that's probably who we would get. Otherwise I would so put Ritz from FFTA in there because she's also one of my favorites.

NeoCracker
06-21-2009, 08:56 PM
I'd imagine Setzer would be ranged for the most part. For a straight line attack, he'd toss his cards in a fast line, doing minor damage, but the attack itself would hit hard.

Then theres darts, which would be a bit slower, but either do more damage or inflict some sort of impedement on the enemy for a brief period.

When throwing a dice, the damage will vary, however the dice will, essentially, explode to cover an area, and also be his slowes.

Finally, he could have a short range spray like attack with his coins.

For short range he could have some form of knife.



Not sure how the EX would work.

Also, I'd be fore doing random guys without any specific pairings in mind. For example, toss in Setzer and Black Waltz #3 or something.

You know, they NEED to add Black Waltz #3, while he was short lived, he ranks near the top FF Villians to me. ^_^

Omni-Odin
06-28-2009, 09:14 AM
Does no one really think Seymour should have been in it. Jecht is not a BAD guy!!! That's what Chaos is calling on: the baddest of the bad. Jecht had an unfortunate role in the story of Spira. It was Seymour who was the most evil of the group gosh darnitt!!!

Wolf Kanno
06-28-2009, 09:57 AM
Yeah but Jecht is Sin and his relationship gives him more of a story with Tidus. Seymour is more of an antagonist for Yuna and frankly, he was a crappy villain anyway. The story of Dissidia actually goes into why Jecht is there, I don't really want to spoil anything though but I feel X fans will be happy somewhat.

Skyblade
07-20-2009, 05:50 AM
Gabranth was probably chosen cause he's the iconic figure of XII that best represents the game. Besides, I can't see Vayne being good in a fighting game.

Yeah, can't imagine where they got that idea.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/b/b4/Ff12_logo.jpeg



Anyway, I'm currently collecting a list of the favorite characters you guys would want to see in Dissidia (or Dissidia 2) for a piece of fan-art as a sort of Dissidia 2 promo. Not saying it will ever be posted here, as I am notoriously obsessive about my art and will spend forever fiddling with it until I think it's perfect, but I'm going to try it anyway.

Altering my original list a little (that one was way too big), we get...

Minwu
Kain
Gilgamesh
Celes
Beatrix
Auron
Magus
Frimelda (hey, it's my list, and she is one of the most awesome characters in any FF game, taking second to Auron only because she's so minor)

I've left a couple of the games out, for no real reason. If there are any characters you guys really think should be in it (except Seymour), let me know, and I'll try to fit them in.

Wolf Kanno
07-20-2009, 07:06 AM
I'd add part of my list...

Vivi (Hero for IX)
Red Mage (FFI)
Leon (FFII Villain)
Faris (Hero FFV)
Rubicant (FFIV Villain)
Laguna (FFVIII Hero)
Adel (FFVIII Villain)
Ramza Beoluve (Secret Character)

Northcrest
07-23-2009, 03:33 PM
FFIII Ingus (Is dat right?)
FFIV Kain n Zeromus
FFV Reina
FFVI Celes
FFVII Barret n Rufus
FFVIII Zell n Seifer
FFIX Vivi
FFX Auron n Seymour
FFXII Vaan n Vayne

felfenix
07-28-2009, 02:05 AM
Kain - FF4
Gilgamesh - FF5
Vincent - FF7
Laguna - FF8
Auron - FF10
Maat - FF11

Githian
08-29-2009, 01:32 PM
How about..
Kain - FF4
Shadow - FF6
Vincent - FF7
Weiss - FF7 DoC
Lulu - FF10
Balthier - FF12

Biukin
09-05-2009, 08:45 AM
CHARACTER I THINK SHOULD BE IN IT
FFVI LOCKE
FFVI GESTEAL(I think that is how you spell it idk)
FFVII VINCENT
FFVII JENOVA
FFVIII ZELL
FFVIII SEIFER
FFIX VIVI
FFIX BLACK WALTZ #3
FFX AURON
FFX SEYMOUR
FFIV KAIN
FFIV FuSoYu
FFV GALUF
FFV GILGAMESH
FFII LEON
FFI LICH
FFT RAMZA
FFT DELITA
FFT VORMOV
FFT GAFGARIAN

Dante WolfWood
09-14-2009, 03:01 PM
I'd add part of my list...

Vivi (Hero for IX)
Red Mage (FFI)
Leon (FFII Villain)
Faris (Hero FFV)
Rubicant (FFIV Villain)
Laguna (FFVIII Hero)
Adel (FFVIII Villain)
Ramza Beoluve (Secret Character)

best one said yet

WildRaubtier
09-14-2009, 03:59 PM
If you really want a parallel for Shantotto, then Tzee Xicu the Manifest (http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Tzee_Xicu_the_Manifest) is probably it. Given how incidental Shantotto is to the plot of FFXI, picking a main villain isn't going to be a grand idea.

Zeromus
09-16-2009, 01:21 AM
I would love to see Sabin as a playable character, with all his blitz and combinations *-* ...that would be awesome... Or Shadow with an Interceptor attack, or with an Interceptor Ex burst!
There are lot of caracters that would be great for a fighting game, anyways...
What do you think about Zemus with a Zeromus Ex burst? As you can imagine I would be so happy to see something like that! and, anyways, I think He is a must-be, a real villain for FF4 please! (I like Golbez, but Zemus/Zeromus was the master mind!)

Some ideas then:
Matoya (FF1) That would be great, another mage npc xD
Maria (FF2) we want more Cosmos females, they are so sweet and innocent! ^.^
From FF3 I don't think about any interesting character ...
Zemus (FF4, with Zeromus as Ex burst!) ..or Rydia, that would be great... But summoner?
Faris (FF5)
Sabin (FF6)
Shadow (FF6, with Interceptor FTW!)
Vincent (FF7)
Laguna or Irvinne (FF8)... Or Adel, or Edea...
Amarant (FF9) or maybe Vivi or Steiner
Seymour (FF10)
For FF11 I don't have someone special in mind
Vaan (FF12)

And I think that would be awesome to see some other fantasies character, I mean, like someone from Final Fantasy Tactics or Chronicles... I would love to use Delita or Ramza from FF Tactics the war of the Lions in Dissidia, in spite I think that will always remain a dream :cry:

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EDIT: Hey... the other day came up to me an exciting idea :P ...What about having Aki Ross as a secret playable character? ...when I was thinking about that I thought that would be awesome :B ...

Sword
10-03-2009, 04:14 PM
Does no one really think Seymour should have been in it. Jecht is not a BAD guy!!! That's what Chaos is calling on: the baddest of the bad. Jecht had an unfortunate role in the story of Spira. It was Seymour who was the most evil of the group gosh darnitt!!!
This is exactly how I feel. I was really annoyed when I found out Jecht was in it.

Wolf Kanno
10-03-2009, 06:34 PM
As stated by the design team, Seymour was not chosen cause he and Tidus really have no personal relationship. Tidus never liked him and Seymour thinks of Tidus as an insect. Throw in that Seymour is quite possibly one of the worst villains in the main series and I feel we have an answer.

I appreciate having Jecht and I liked how Dissidia's plot even addresses that Jecht isn't really a bad guy (same with Golbez). Jecht is one of the very few characters on my very short list of things I like In FFX. So I'm pretty happy that he was chosen as his relationship with Tidus was far more interesting than anything Seymour could have produced. :roll2

Jiro
10-05-2009, 11:49 AM
Needs more ninja imo. Shadow is there. Edge is there. There are probably others I can't think of.

black orb
10-05-2009, 10:04 PM
>>> Dont worry people, "Dissidia 2" will have all those characters you want..

Wolf Kanno
10-06-2009, 04:54 AM
Not likely, unless they put it on a console and somehow put every character in all the games in there down to obscure people like the dancers in FFIII, Impresario in VI, and the Truck that hits Palmer. :p

IXVI
10-06-2009, 01:02 PM
impresario? REALLY???....;|.....

Jiro
10-06-2009, 02:00 PM
Not likely, unless they put it on a console and somehow put every character in all the games in there down to obscure people like the dancers in FFIII, Impresario in VI, and the Truck that hits Palmer. :p

"This guy are sick" guy. I want to vomit on their shoes for maximum damage. And Nida, who could have a Garden battle with a G-Garden pilot. And Cinna who would be the best character even though he's useles during IX. And the kid who wants to be a blitzball. Oh and Daryl, or Gogo so we can see the alternate costume which reveals the true person (Daryl. Or Adlai Stevenson. I forget)

Skyblade
10-06-2009, 09:29 PM
Not likely, unless they put it on a console and somehow put every character in all the games in there down to obscure people like the dancers in FFIII, Impresario in VI, and the Truck that hits Palmer. :p

Even if they aren't playable, there's still the help menu. :)

black orb
10-06-2009, 10:15 PM
Not likely, unless they put it on a console and somehow put every character in all the games in there down to obscure people like the dancers in FFIII, Impresario in VI, and the Truck that hits Palmer. :p
>>> There is an easy solution to all that, just put there a complete character customization/creation section just like Soul Calibur 3 and 4..

Raideen
11-14-2009, 06:59 AM
Funny how it should only be "main villains and heroes" while Golbez is not really the main villain of FFIV (Coughzeromuszzcough).

I guess Seifer would be the appropriate enemy for Squall. I don't see what Square-Enix was smoking when they put Ultimecia instead of Seifer because I don't see how Ultimecia is significantly important to Squall.

(I know I made a topic already, I'll let that topic lock/die out though)

On the other hand, Dissidia needs some fist fighters like Zell or Tifa, would be interesting o.o
Or gun experts like Irvine and Vincent, that'd be badass.

Skyblade
11-15-2009, 12:12 AM
Funny how it should only be "main villains and heroes" while Golbez is not really the main villain of FFIV (Coughzeromuszzcough).

I guess Seifer would be the appropriate enemy for Squall. I don't see what Square-Enix was smoking when they put Ultimecia instead of Seifer because I don't see how Ultimecia is significantly important to Squall.

(I know I made a topic already, I'll let that topic lock/die out though)

On the other hand, Dissidia needs some fist fighters like Zell or Tifa, would be interesting o.o
Or gun experts like Irvine and Vincent, that'd be badass.

A goodly number of the villains aren't the end-all final villains of their games. The developers specifically chose villains who weren't end-game bosses to avoid the villains with little to no character development, like Zemus/Zeromus, Yu-Yevon, and the others in that same group. They also tried to go with characters who had attachments to the main characters, yet were still important to the plot.

Seifer doesn't really make a lot of sense. While he does have the rival relationship with Squall, he wasn't really a major player. He was just a henchman, a minor villain, about as important as the Turks in FFVIII.

Wolf Kanno
11-15-2009, 03:56 AM
Seifer was actually in the running to be the villain for VIII but was not chosen cause the developers wanted all the characters to be distinct from each other. Having two gunblade users didn't set well with them so they chose Ultimecia instead.

Maybe Dissidia 2...

Also, despite Zemus being the mastermind of IV, its only revealed a few hours before the end. Golbez on the other hand has been the main antagonist for the entire game and considering how brainwashing works in that game, he wasn't terribly far from his true personality. So he works in my mind. :p

Funny enough, Kain Highwind was originally chosen to be the villain representing IV. He was turned down cause the developers felt he was too much a hero and felt the dynamics between Cecil and Golbez would work better.

arcanedude34
11-15-2009, 06:12 AM
A goodly number of the villains aren't the end-all final villains of their games. The developers specifically chose villains who weren't end-game bosses to avoid the villains with little to no character development, like Zemus/Zeromus, Yu-Yevon, and the others in that same group. They also tried to go with characters who had attachments to the main characters, yet were still important to the plot.

They chose Cloud of Darkness over Xande :roll2

Darkwolf090
11-15-2009, 06:21 AM
In CoD's defense.... the hero doesnt even have a name... really I would of liked him alot more if he really was just Lunith and not Onion Knight... but thats my hatred for the job class showing
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Wolf Kanno
11-15-2009, 06:43 AM
A goodly number of the villains aren't the end-all final villains of their games. The developers specifically chose villains who weren't end-game bosses to avoid the villains with little to no character development, like Zemus/Zeromus, Yu-Yevon, and the others in that same group. They also tried to go with characters who had attachments to the main characters, yet were still important to the plot.

They chose Cloud of Darkness over Xande :roll2

Xande is a bit of a non-entity, despite a more fleshed out back story he only sends lackeys to fight you and technically only encounters your party once. In regard's to CoD, she is the result of the balance of light and darkness being disturbed and as the Light Warriors are chosen by the crystals to restore this balance, I feel this ties them together much better than an "armchair villain" like Xande. Thematically, it works better. Course I'm hoping he'll appear in a sequel. :D

Zeromus
11-16-2009, 03:01 AM
About the Final Bosses thing, in spite that I would have loved to see Zeromus, Necron, and others like them as playable characters, I'm happy they didn't put them... 'Cause that way, characters like them can keep their GREAT power, and with that, their reputation. :B
I mean, if Zeromus was killed by 5 character in FFIV and he could have been difficult that way, would be kinda odd to watch him/it get killed by just one character, and maybe with just 1 low level character in Dissidia...
Isn't it weird that Sephiroth, for example, with all his overpowerful reputation, can get killed so easily in Dissidia??? (I'm talking about story mode or common battles, not about the Inward Chaos or Blackjack ones)... If he can be so easily killed in Dissidia (being the same person), why the hell he, as an ex 1st Class Soldier, was so feared in FF7???...

I get annoyed a little bit because of things like that in Dissidia, I mean, we need a little more of concordance in the games =/ ... A guy who can kick your ass even if the battle is unbalanced (4 or 5 against just one), and who had a whole game to get beaten, should not be so easily beaten in a one-against-one battle, and even worse, if you're beating him with one of those guys who got his ass kicked when being not alone in the earlier game... =/

I think Chaos forces are being looked down in Dissidia cause they were powerful guys in the earlier games... But of course, those are the rules in a Fighting game... So is understood... But I want to think that maybe that one is a reason for having not chosen some bosses... choosing other villains in their place...

Another reason could have been the technical difficulties to model them in 3D for a fighting game... being, like Zeromus, some of them, more a mass-like thing instead of an individual... I don't know if I can explain it well... D:

Of course, the other big reason is the way they can fit Dissidia story and the main villain role they had in their games... Like in Golbez case.

Specifically about CoD, Xande would have been great, but I think she got chosen instead of Xande just because of the lack of females in the playable characters list, cause they are mostly males. (4 females and 18 males, if I'm not forgetting or changing the sex of someone xD...)

Talking again about the question of this thread... I insist that Aki Ross would have been an awesome hidden playable character in Dissidia :D ?
What do you think?

Sephiroth
11-23-2009, 08:06 PM
When I think about it:

FF III:

Luineth - EX Mode: Chosen by the Light; EX Burst: Sword of Light ---> Crystal Sword
Zande - EX Mode: Descendant of Noah; EX Burst: Power of the Mortal ---> Meteo

FF IV:

Kain - EX Mode: Dragoon Legend; EX Burst: I won't disappoint you, father! ---> Spear Rain
Zemus - EX Mode: All destroying Darkness; EX Burst: Lunarian Soul ---> Big Bang

FF VII:

Aerith - EX Mode: Descendant of the Ancients; EX Burst: The Cry of the Planet ---> Great Gospel | super version of X-Death; only HP damage attack would be White Materia (even though it is to protect the planet - but you need a chance to win with Aerith as well)
Zack - EX Mode: A Hero is born!; EX Burst: Embrace your dreams! ---> Omnislash Version Z.
JENOVA (shapeshifted ancient form with Sephiroth-like clothes) - EX Mode: Reunion!; EX Burst: True Form ---> Planet Crush
Genesis - EX Mode: Degradation; EX Burst: The Gift of the Goddess ---> Purgatory Wave

FF VIII:
Seifer - EX Mode: My romatic Dream!; EX Burst: Finishing Blade
Edea - EX Mode: Liberi Fatali; EX Burst: Dark Soul ---> Wrath of Ice

FF IX:

Vivi - EX Mode: Trance!; EX Burst: Dual Cast (Three different options - which one he uses belongs to your success while using it)
Black Waltz # III - EX Mode: Trance!; EX Burst: This is how you cast a... (Three different options - which one he uses belongs to your success while using it)
Beatrice - EX Mode: Trance!; EX Burst: Legendary Tech ---> Shock

FF X:

Yuna (like Cecil - Summoner and Archer possible) - EX Mode: High Summoner; EX Burst: Master Summon (Three different options - which one he uses belongs to your success while using it)
Seymour - EX Mode: The Unsent; Both hope and existence will end here! ---> Requiem

FF XII:

Ashe - EX Mode: Vengeance or Peace?; EX Burst: Rasler, give me your strength! ---> King's Sword Slash
Vayne - EX Mode: Manufacted Nethicite; EX Burst: History begins anew ---> Tera Flare

FF XIII:

Lightning - EX Mode: I'll fulfill the focus, Serah!; EX Burst: Zantetsuken
Galenth Dysley - EX Mode: I am the ultimate fal'Cie!; EX Burst: Ragnarok

Forsaken Lover
12-06-2009, 12:10 AM
YouTube - Final Fantasy Top 10 - Top Ten Characters Not In Dissidia That Should Have Been (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZURa457Fk1Q)

This is a good list.

Also this
YouTube - Top 10 Shoulda Been Dissidia Characters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Of9othCXuw)

Not as flashy as the first list but I like her candid manner.

Darth Cid
12-10-2009, 04:22 AM
Dissidia 2 should involve full parties and sub-villains from all first ten FFs.

arcanedude34
12-13-2009, 03:33 PM
Dissidia 2 should involve full parties and sub-villains from all first ten FFs.

^_^

I'd love to play as Kain, on topic

Eaglegun
02-26-2010, 10:11 PM
I think full parties would be unreasonable to expect, but how about of they used four characters from each game instead of two: two heroes and two villains/one villain and one rival.
VII- Cloud, Tifa, Sephiroth, Jenova (or maybe one of the turks?).
VIII-Squall, Zell (would rather see him in a fighting game than Rinoa), Ultimicia, Seifer.
IX-Zidane, Steiner, Kuja, Black Waltz No. 3
X-Tidus, Auron, Jecht, Seymour
X2? Just a thought, Yuna, Paine, Shuyin, ???? (I didn't play this one)
XII-Basch, Vaan, Gabranth, Vayne (I didn't play this one either)
Crisis core would be nice- Zack, Angeal, Genesis, ???? (Minerva?)