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Garnie
07-08-2009, 11:29 PM
WARNING THERE MAY BE UNMARKED SPOILERS AHEAD!!

Were only 8 days away from the Half blood Prince, with the premier just gone on Tuesday in London.

So far with all of the trailers and clips, the film to me looks pretty awesome; maybe the most exciting yet! However with the fiasco of the Order of the phoenix, that could just be all of the exciting stuff crammed into one trailer...and that's it.

to be honest, they haven't given HBP great reviews for the film. Some say its spell binding catching teenager adolescence in the bag! some are saying that its long winded and flat! One actually said that the die hard fans are going to hate it! But we all have to remember that the films are always going to be different then the books, and we should love them regardless.

so what are you expecting from the films?
Is there anything you want to make sure is in it?
Are you looking forward to it?
Do you think that the series is going well so far?
Do you think that the Deathly Hallows will have a tough act to follow?

Discuss!!


*SPOILERS, BE WARNED*

Here are 2 clips from a Harry Potter site of the new film! If you don't want to be spoiled do not watch! If you want to comment, wrap it with the spoiler tag!

You will need Quicktime to watch the clips! don't worry quicktime is free!
Clip 1 (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/halfbloodprince/epk/HP6_KILL_SIRIUS_BLACK_LARGE.mov)

Clip 2 (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/halfbloodprince/epk/HP6_WHOS_THE_HBP_LARGE.mov)

I liked these clips! I'm very eager to see more of this scene!
At first i was a little worried about it, and i was wondering where the hell is bill and Fleur, but it is a small scene i guess to stick everyone in. The HBP bit was a little stale but i guess its just part of the story telling!

Rye
07-08-2009, 11:32 PM
I am beyond excited for this film.

scrumpleberry
07-08-2009, 11:43 PM
I am going to be complaining the whole way through this film about everything, but I will watch it anyway.

qwertysaur
07-09-2009, 12:36 AM
I am going to be complaining the whole way through this film about everything, but I will watch it anyway.

Freya
07-09-2009, 12:37 AM
I feel bad for Jojee and Raistlin. The past like two weeks I make a mention of it every night. I'm sure they are tired of hearing me get all giddy for it. But come on, I stood in line for 2 hrs when the first movie came out o.o

I'm really looking forward to the soundtrack. The Trademark HP tune on the trailer just seems epic.

Garnie
07-09-2009, 12:52 AM
I'm looking forward to it to! I cant wait to see! But as scrumps said, ill be complaining all the way through it lol!

Freya
07-09-2009, 01:00 AM
I avoid reading the books and such before the movie comes out so it's not that fresh in my head. I did that with the fourth movie and the entire time I was pointing out what was wrong and missing.

So to save myself from hating it all together I let myself forget about details. :p If my mind can just say, "Oh yeah I remember that spell." rather than "They totally did that spell all wrong."


Also I've been entertaining myself with The Harry Potter Musical (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmwM_AKeMCk&feature=channel_page). They just got all the vids back up cause they didn't want to get sued. There are some spoilers in it but even then it's all just ridiculously funny. If you haven't seen it yet get with the times!

Jessweeee♪
07-09-2009, 01:09 AM
Yeah, but I figure it'll be like OoTP was. The only way around that is to break it into two like they're doing with the Deathly Hallows :(

Markus. D
07-09-2009, 01:18 AM
I decided to watch the films instead of read the books, I'll be able to judge the films as films that way.

and there was only one true plothole in the last film :D! AND I LOVE HELENA BOHAM CARTER! SO~ I'M EXCITED~

Ouch!
07-09-2009, 01:19 AM
I am going to be complaining the whole way through this film about everything, but I will watch it anyway.
Pretty much. I absolutely hated The Order of the Phoenix simply because of the way they completely disregarded so many things that people had already figured out were going to be very, very important. I'm disappointed that Rowling didn't step in and let them know how much they were shooting themselves in foot. Sure, she told them not to leave out Kreacher, but there's more wrong about the film than just that.

The trailers look pretty exciting, but I'm still terrified.

*ETERNAL FANTASY*
07-09-2009, 03:32 AM
really excited for this one! a few good reviews are comming out about this movie...

qwertysaur
07-09-2009, 04:10 AM
I really hope they didn't forget to put the Diadem in the room of Requirement.

Momiji
07-09-2009, 05:46 AM
I got shivers down my spine when I saw the preview for it when I went to see Transformers. I really want to see this.

Garnie
07-09-2009, 07:45 AM
I'v read the books so many times it's gonna be very hard for me to not complain about some things! I guess we just have to judge the film as a film!

Bunny
07-09-2009, 03:47 PM
Dumbledore dies at 1 hour and 46 minutes

Garnie
07-09-2009, 04:09 PM
Dumbledore dies at 1 hour and 46 minutes

how dyah know that????

Quindiana Jones
07-09-2009, 04:10 PM
I wonder how much more they're going to butcher the series. That is why I will watch this film.

Raebus
07-09-2009, 04:12 PM
Oh jesus christ, Wednesday is going to be horrible. I'll be working a close at the cinema on the release day of Harry potter. ;_;

Quindiana Jones
07-09-2009, 04:16 PM
As a hooker?

Raebus
07-09-2009, 04:20 PM
They hire hookers to bring in the men =D


and women*


but srsly, as a team member person

Quindiana Jones
07-09-2009, 04:22 PM
If they had hookers dressed up as Harry Potter fans, I reckon sales would go through the roof. Whether more for the hookers or the cinema, I can't decide.

Bunny
07-09-2009, 04:34 PM
If they had hookers dressed up as Harry Potter fans, I reckon sales would go through the roof. Whether more for the hookers or the cinema, I can't decide.

I'm pretty sure most Harry Potter fans wouldn't know how to approach a hooker, dressed as Hermoine or not.

Depression Moon
07-09-2009, 06:46 PM
But we all have to remember that the films are always going to be different then the books, and we should love them regardless.

Wow that's definitely not true. There's no excuse why the films couldn't have been better and I'm not falling for this again. I had already made mistakes paying three bucks to see Order of the Phoenix and Goblet of Fire and being very disappointed in both. I heard before that they were going to add in an action scene in between because they didn't want to bore the audience. Well if you can't make it interesting without throwing in something irrelevant then you're doing something wrong.

Obviously you can tell that I have no plans to see it.

LunarWeaver
07-09-2009, 07:30 PM
I will watch it, not analyze its every frame, and enjoy it. Just as I did with the others. Looks like it will be good.

Freya
07-09-2009, 07:37 PM
But we all have to remember that the films are always going to be different then the books, and we should love them regardless.

Wow that's definitely not true. There's no excuse why the films couldn't have been better and I'm not falling for this again. I had already made mistakes paying three bucks to see Order of the Phoenix and Goblet of Fire and being very disappointed in both. I heard before that they were going to add in an action scene in between because they didn't want to bore the audience. Well if you can't make it interesting without throwing in something irrelevant then you're doing something wrong.

Obviously you can tell that I have no plans to see it.
Personally I think that judgment is horrible. You can't expect them to put everything in the books in the movie. It'd make it a like 12 hr movie. With that said, who would want to see a movie with an overabundance of dialogue? They aren't trying to just appeal to those who are fans of the book series, they are trying to reach others who haven't read the books but may still enjoy Harry Potter.

If you are going in expecting it to be exactly like the books then you will be very disappointed. If they add in a scene that was just mentioned vaguely in the book, (the bridge crashing) and expand on it and show it, I say go ahead. The telling of a movie's story and a telling of a book's story are two completely different things. With a book you can go in depth about emotions that are happening, thoughts that are going on in heads. Movies; you have to SHOW those emotions rather than tell.

I wouldn't want to see Harry just thinking would I? No, I'd like to hear him talking, walking around, and just being a real person.


BUT that's just my opinion. I just think you should give the movies more of a chance :P

Ouch!
07-09-2009, 07:38 PM
Reviews seem to suggestion that this is the most faithful and well-done book to movie transition so far. This is good news as far as I'm concerned, but I'm trying not to get my hopes up.

Edit: Lekana, I think the problem with the movies is not that they tell the story in a different way. Everyone, I think, accepts that certain changes are necessary. The problem is that the movies have an awful track record of including scenes which have turned out to be incredibly significantly to the narrative. While some may suggest this is forgivable (after all, this is the first movie made after the books have concluded as a series), I find it unacceptable given that a large portion of the fanbase had already figured out with near certainty what was going to be important down the road (turns out we were right). They've made errors that are just going to be awkward down the road when they realize they have to do strange flashback sequences just so :bou::bou::bou::bou: makes sense.

Rocket Edge
07-09-2009, 07:43 PM
I'll watch it. Can't say I've been following it's progress however.

Quindiana Jones
07-09-2009, 08:16 PM
If they had hookers dressed up as Harry Potter fans, I reckon sales would go through the roof. Whether more for the hookers or the cinema, I can't decide.

I'm pretty sure most Harry Potter fans wouldn't know how to approach a hooker, dressed as Hermoine or not.

Replace "a hooker" with "any normal human" and I think I'd have to agree.

scrumpleberry
07-09-2009, 08:26 PM
:(:(:(

Freya
07-09-2009, 08:56 PM
Ouch! I was replying to depression moons comment on how they add in action scenes not so much that everyone should know they change things and they leave out things. Thanks for not getting that. :) Hope I clarified.

You can't really blame the movies either, it had a new director pretty much every movie.

Old Manus
07-09-2009, 09:24 PM
Who gives a toss whether the film follows the books to the letter? During the whole Grimmauld Place segment (a large chunk of the book) of OotP hardly anything happens, and huge parts of book 7 (I'm looking at you, camping chapters) are particularly yawn-worthy. The films are good films in their own right.

charliepanayi
07-09-2009, 10:20 PM
A good adaptation isn't about whether a film follows its source book to the letter, and I don't think that is the main complaint that people have about the Harry Potter films. I just find that they feel flat, like we're getting a whistle stop tour of some of the main events in the book but there's no depth to it all. A good adaptation can distil the elements of a book to create a great film like the LOTR films or LA Confidential or One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest (which is very different to the book but that's irrelevant as it's a great film in its own right). I just don't think the HP films do this. There's far worse out there, but it doesn't quite gel for me.

Ouch!
07-09-2009, 10:29 PM
Who gives a toss whether the film follows the books to the letter? During the whole Grimmauld Place segment (a large chunk of the book) of OotP hardly anything happens, and huge parts of book 7 (I'm looking at you, camping chapters) are particularly yawn-worthy. The films are good films in their own right.
It's not about following the book perfectly, but about what's recognizing important and what's filler--something they consistently fail to do effectively. The locket? Never mentioned. Kreacher? Almost completely ignored after Rowling told them to put him in. Dobby? Nowhere to be seen since the second movie despite his role a frequently returning character. These all have negative consequences which will be difficult to explain away, but because they're all related to central plot events, it's something they will have to address in some manner.

I don't mind them adding in extra scenes. Focusing on the action is perfectly fine, and, I agree, necessary to making an entertaining movie. The fact is, however, that they haven't done it very well. I'm not quite sure why they're resistant to making these movies longer. Movies exceeding two hours in length aren't as uncommon as they once were, and it's been proven that as long as the material is there to keep it going, they still do well. Given that we've already established that important things have been cut from the movies, I think it's clear that there'd be enough of interest left to put into the movie.

I just have to question someone who decides that the longest book she's written (and granted, tOotP is absolutely riddled with unnecessary content) should be the shortest movie, especially when they ended up cutting some things that really, really shouldn't have. It's just poor screenwriting.

Garnie
07-09-2009, 10:32 PM
I think that in the films (when comparing them to the books) are ok but not Rowling. The films as in films are fantastic! every one of em!! the problem is that the films missed out on some important aspects of the books. which i feel needed to be included! but the reason why i feel that way is because i'v read the books so many times i can tell you every chapter written in order. we have to look at this in perspective, if they added everything the die hard fans want to see, they would never be able to appeal to the other fan base. (those who only watch the films)

When i first saw PS i had never read the books. when i did read the books is when i wanted to find out what happens in OOTP after i watched GOF. that was the first potter book i read. then i read the series (not in order) and became a die hard fan. If i read HBP after i saw OOTP, i would have probably not had a big issue with it.

what Ouch says is completely true! but you have to remember dude, that your a massive fan!(i know this because you have posted on every potter thread i have made lol) and that makes you hate the fact that they left out dobby, kreature, etc. I feel the same way, but they will have to come up with a plan in the end, even if its random! I guess that's why DH is being split up! well...i hoping that's the reason anyway!

Quindiana Jones
07-09-2009, 10:47 PM
After watching the 5th film, I was hoping so hard that Sirius would somehow (almost by magic! :eek:) return. That'd totally screw them over for unnecessarily changing the spell to an Avada Kedavra. And this point highlights why I hate these movies: pointless changes. They cut out things that should be in, change things that don't need changing or simply shouldn't be changed due to the plot importance, and often just add pointless things for the hell of it. I've got £20 saying Hermione gets a nude scene in the last film*.

*This totally needs to happen actually.

Depression Moon
07-09-2009, 10:49 PM
Personally I think that judgment is horrible. You can't expect them to put everything in the books in the movie. It'd make it a like 12 hr movie. With that said, who would want to see a movie with an overabundance of dialogue? They aren't trying to just appeal to those who are fans of the book series, they are trying to reach others who haven't read the books but may still enjoy Harry Potter.

If you are going in expecting it to be exactly like the books then you will be very disappointed. If they add in a scene that was just mentioned vaguely in the book, (the bridge crashing) and expand on it and show it, I say go ahead. The telling of a movie's story and a telling of a book's story are two completely different things. With a book you can go in depth about emotions that are happening, thoughts that are going on in heads. Movies; you have to SHOW those emotions rather than tell.

I wouldn't want to see Harry just thinking would I? No, I'd like to hear him talking, walking around, and just being a real person.



Howcome every time I express my dislike for the movies someone thinks that I want absolutely everything in it. Those words did not come out of my mouth. Also it would most definitely not be 12hrs long even if they did put in everything.



Having your work of art being adapted to the most acquainted form of media creates great opportunities. It is an opportunity to change something that you might not have liked improve on something or explain something that wasn't explained. In addition to that it is also an opportunity to have newcomers enjoy your movie and allow them to share the same or similar experience as the readers. Goblet of Fire for one was like a mystery book. They ruined the entire mystery from the jump by showing you the culprit in the begginning and eliminating almost all those characters that were involved. I was going for low expectations for OOp and it still dissappointed me. Some say people don't watch two and a half hour long movies, but a good number of best selling movies are that long. Transformers, Dark Knight, Pirates of the Carribbean 2, Titanic, Transformers 2, etc.

It really should be about providing a similar experience for those newcomers, but they failed and turn them into something else.

drotato
07-10-2009, 03:34 AM
I am soooo excited for this!!! =D



Harry's not bad looking in this one. /:

ljkkjlcm9
07-10-2009, 04:13 AM
I've got £20 saying Hermione gets a nude scene in the last film*.

*This totally needs to happen actually.

Completely unlikely considering Emma Watson and her opinion on nudity and proper dress. She feels that more clothes are sexier as it adds more mystery and lets your own imagination do the work

On another issue entirely, I look forward to the movie as a movie. That's really the only way to enjoy movies nowadays. I mean, if you try to actually follow the story of say, Transformers 2, you realize how stupid it was, on so many different levels.

And on a final note, we all know the real reason the 7th book is being two movies is for more money. And probably to have more time to fill in all the things they missed in previous books that are important. The first "half" will basically be all flashbacks, and the second "half" will be the actual book lol

THE JACKEL

Quindiana Jones
07-10-2009, 07:15 AM
I've got £20 saying Hermione gets a nude scene in the last film*.

*This totally needs to happen actually.

Completely unlikely considering Emma Watson and her opinion on nudity and proper dress. She feels that more clothes are sexier as it adds more mystery and lets your own imagination do the work

Nothing that a kilo of coke can't fix.

Old Manus
07-10-2009, 10:36 AM
more clothes are sexier as it adds more mystery and lets your own imagination do the workhahahahahaha

Depression Moon
07-10-2009, 05:56 PM
Another thing that I don't like about the movies is the actor for Dumbledore. Every time the man speaks he sounds like he has an attitude and the whole way he carries himself is like the opposite of Dumbledore. I think it was a different guy in the first film and he seemed to represent the character better than the current actor. For whatever reason that he couldn't have continued I would've liked for them to pick someone who could grasp the same character as well, but shame.

Also what was up with that stupid talking head in the third movie and the candy that made people make animal noises?

Quindiana Jones
07-10-2009, 05:58 PM
The first guy was better but he kinda died, so they figured they'd get someone that people'd be all "Hey it's got Gambon in it, it must be good!" in order to get people to watch it.

Depression Moon
07-10-2009, 06:04 PM
Gambon?

charliepanayi
07-10-2009, 08:11 PM
I presume he means Michael Gambon, the actor who took over as Dumbledore after Richard Harris (the original actor) died.

Suvious
07-10-2009, 08:22 PM
So did cancer kill Dumbledore or what? :-/

McLovin'
07-10-2009, 09:03 PM
This one might be good but 7 part 2 will be awesome.

Depression Moon
07-10-2009, 09:40 PM
I presume he means Michael Gambon, the actor who took over as Dumbledore after Richard Harris (the original actor) died.
yeah that's what we were discussing, but who's Gambon?

Ouch!
07-10-2009, 10:16 PM
I presume he means Michael Gambon, the actor who took over as Dumbledore after Richard Harris (the original actor) died.
yeah that's what we were discussing, but who's Gambon?
Read the sentence carefully and see if you can't figure it out.

Gambon currently plays Dumbledore.

Depression Moon
07-10-2009, 10:24 PM
Yeah we were discussing that, but I don't know who he is.

Ouch!
07-10-2009, 10:32 PM
Yeah we were discussing that, but I don't know who he is.
Is this some kind of philosophical question or do you want us to list off his entire resume? Just IMDB him.

Old Manus
07-10-2009, 10:47 PM
Sir Michael Gambon CBE, aged 68, plays Dumbledore in the Harry Potter film series.

<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Michael_gambon150.jpg" alt="stop being an idiot.">

Garnie
07-11-2009, 01:29 AM
doy!!! lol

i really cant wait for the DH-2

with the battle of hogwarts and the snapes death..it's gonna be frikin awesome!! i just hope that they scratch most of the camping scenes.

IronOcean
07-11-2009, 03:44 AM
am crazy excited for it, ya the movies have alot wrong with them but whatever its still fun to watch these chars in live action, they havent messed up this series like they have other things out there :D you all can think of something i am sure. they are fun ya they miss alot but they have to ya know, not all of them can be 4 hours long, so i am hella excited and just taking them as movies for movies

Garnie
07-11-2009, 11:46 AM
OMG!! It's out on Wednesday!! It was supposed to be the 17th!!
yay!!

IronOcean
07-12-2009, 04:25 AM
the damn movie has been done for ever but they wanted it to be a summer movie :mad2: so we have all had to wait now

Garnie
07-12-2009, 12:42 PM
Now this is something i feel should be discussed with 4 days left to the film.

Dumbledors death.

Now this is the most important part of the book.. the entire series actually and im worried on what im going to see. when i first read the books i cried like a baby, it was so emotional and i really want to feel that emotion on screen. but i heard that there cutting the funeral from the film, which is just as important. the white tomb and everything else...well i guess we'll just have to wait and see. What do you guys think?

from all of the trailers and clips and the special that was on ITV yesterday, it looks like there more to the books then ever before, which is great! Obviously with a few turns here and there though.

Depression Moon
07-13-2009, 07:45 PM
Who's Gambon exactly?

Michael Gambon. He's an actor. Specifically, he's the actor playing Albus Dumbledore, and has been playing him since...I think the second one. Maybe the third.
Yeah we were discussing that and why we both dislike him, i was asking who he is to be used as a tool for to bring in people just because of his name.

He's a very famous and respected actor. People assume that he wouldn't even look twice at a film that was going to be rubbish.

Why didn't yáll just say that?

Garnie
07-14-2009, 03:51 PM
with less then one day left for the film tension is rising!

And i can't go. It proper sux!

But i have found some interesting news about it!

warning!! these are major spoilers!

Ginny and Harrys relationship is apparently none existent! they do have a kiss but not in the way they should have.

Dumbledore won't be having a funeral which in my opinion sucks! but we do see Fawkes flying of into the sunset.

arthur weasly tells harry about the vanishing cabinet, but only thinks theirs one. which is a major spoiler before we get to the end, but i guess it works for those who have never read the books.

There's no dobby or Krecher in this one either which is a totally bad judgment call TBH.

there will only 3 pensive visits, the one to the orphanage and the two riddle/slughorn memories.

they will be a burial for aragog.

there is one really annoying thing about the film i have found so far, and im not entirely sure why this annoyed me so much but
In the film dumbledore tells harry that the ring belonged to his mother. He completely dismissed Marvolo, which isn't to bad but still i think its a really bad call.

Bunny
07-14-2009, 05:03 PM
This is now the Pope's favorite movie.

Rebellious Eagle
07-14-2009, 07:35 PM
How can there be a burial for a freaking overgrown spider that no one but Hagrid liked but no funeral for Dumbledore ? Pretty lame on Yates's part. :<
The movie probably isn't going to be as good as the 3rd or 4th because the same director who did OoTP directed this one. Bleh.

Depression Moon
07-14-2009, 11:53 PM
How can there be a burial for a freaking overgrown spider that no one but Hagrid liked but no funeral for Dumbledore ? Pretty lame on Yates's part. :<
The movie probably isn't going to be as good as the 3rd or 4th because the same director who did OoTP directed this one. Bleh.

Yep it's already fucked up. Thanks for warning me, but I knew it was going to be some crap like that anyways.

Rye
07-15-2009, 12:17 AM
I would go tonight to see it, but it's too long and I'd fall asleep.

I'm gonna see it tomorrow afternoon. I might go buy the tickets right now, to be sure I won't be sold out. I might cry if that happens. Thank god it came out on the one weekday that I have off from work.

Bunny
07-15-2009, 12:32 AM
How can there be a burial for a freaking overgrown spider that no one but Hagrid liked but no funeral for Dumbledore ? Pretty lame on Yates's part. :<
The movie probably isn't going to be as good as the 3rd or 4th because the same director who did OoTP directed this one. Bleh.

Because Dumbledore was gay and gay people don't get the right to have a funeral.

Alternatively, maybe they are saving it for Deathly Hollows because that would make a little bit of sense regardless of what book it was in.

McLovin'
07-15-2009, 01:14 AM
Maybe they'll pull the same thing LotR did with the giant spider.

Garnie
07-15-2009, 08:37 AM
\BUNNY CAN YOU TAG THE SPOILERS PLEASE!!!! SOME PEOPLE HAVENT READ THE BOOKS!!

Bunny
07-15-2009, 08:39 AM
No. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/man-commits-suicide-after_b_231271.html)

I Took the Red Pill
07-15-2009, 09:01 AM
that was pretty good. awesome that I had to drive so far to see it because everywhere was sold out and now I am just getting home at 4 am.

Ouch!
07-15-2009, 09:22 AM
Not bothering with spoiler tags. If you don't want to be spoiled, why the hell are you in a thread marked with a warning?

I did not feel that anything that they changed has been quite so awful as some of the mistakes they made in previous movies, and they've already started moving towards correcting some of those mistakes, for example Slughorn introducing us to Regulus Black.

I agree with Bunny's explanation for the funeral. They can just as easily put that at the beginning of the next movie (and given that Harry has yet to tell Ginny to stay away, I imagine they may do just that).

Ultimately, I think this was by far the most successful adaptation by far. It was enjoying to watch, and at least this time I haven't left the theater mumbling about all the reasons they've just smurfed themselves.

YOU'RE BOTHERING WITH SPOILER TAGS NOW, HOMEBOY. ~Shlup

Kirobaito
07-15-2009, 06:47 PM
Not bothering with spoiler tags. If you don't want to be spoiled, why the hell are you in a thread marked with a warning?

I did not feel that anything that they changed has been quite so awful as some of the mistakes they made in previous movies, and they've already started moving towards correcting some of those mistakes, for example Slughorn introducing us to Regulus Black.

I agree with Bunny's explanation for the funeral. They can just as easily put that at the beginning of the next movie (and given that Harry has yet to tell Ginny to stay away, I imagine they may do just that).

Ultimately, I think this was by far the most successful adaptation by far. It was enjoying to watch, and at least this time I haven't left the theater mumbling about all the reasons they've just smurfed themselves.

YOU'RE BOTHERING WITH SPOILER TAGS NOW, HOMEBOY. ~Shlup
I tend to agree with all of this. I thought this was the best adaptation thus far.

But seriously, the person next to me very apparently did not know that... it happened. She put her hand over her mouth to avoid screaming. It was obvious that she somehow never knew. I don't know how that's even possible!

I watch the movies as individual ones now. With four directors, the series is not going to flow perfectly, and you're not going to cover everything. I would abhor seven adaptations like CoS, word-for-word re-tellings of the books. I'm fine with them changing stuff.

Garnie
07-15-2009, 11:43 PM
i only asked because there might be some people that haven't read the book but wanted to discuss the film that's all.

I haven't been able to see the film yet. went earlier but it was sold out. I'm going tomorrow instead.

Jessweeee♪
07-15-2009, 11:47 PM
Gonna go see it in an hour two weeks! Hopefully it's not sold out o:

smittenkitten
07-16-2009, 04:56 AM
I think the movie was awesome I saw the first screening yesterday morning. I thought it was very funny and quite good for a build up movie. It was wierd at the3 end though... The two people in front of me starting clapping, then about five more people behind me starting clapping. Everyone else just laughed, I was like "wtf?" :p

blackmage_nuke
07-16-2009, 05:31 AM
There was a scene in the great hall where you could see a Slytherin student and a Griffindor student having a friendly chat and even somewhat sharing food, I felt like I was going to explode then. The scene where the burrow burnt down wasnt necessary and Belatrix did abit too much jumping about towards the end, and Dumbledore isnt the cheerful character as he is in the books (But that was the case with every movie) so there wasnt as much emotional impact when he was killed. Shame the Dursley's didnt show up, theyre always good for a laugh.

Other than that I found the movie reasonable. Hermione isnt blonde anymore atleast.

Garnie
07-16-2009, 08:22 PM
Its as a very good film! would recommend it but it doesn't follow the book completely!.

Skydragon
07-16-2009, 08:44 PM
I read the book. I can't go wait to go and watch the movie. I wonder how much is cut from the book since the movie is approximately 2hrs and for sure they can't fit everything from the book into the movie in that time frame. Will be interesting to see.

charliepanayi
07-16-2009, 09:09 PM
I read the book. I can't go wait to go and watch the movie. I wonder how much is cut from the book since the movie is approximately 2hrs and for sure they can't fit everything from the book into the movie in that time frame. Will be interesting to see.

It's two and a half hours I think.

Garnie
07-17-2009, 12:16 AM
Ok im gonna give a proper review of it now but i can only do it in 2 parts. this is because i loved the film but im still annoyed about it too.

The film for the movie potter nuts

as a film it was the best so far. I loved the comedy in it and the acting; especially Dracos role. You could really see that he has an internal struggle going on and i loved the fact that he is scared and determined at the same time. In all respect, Draco was the best charector in the film. I liked the Quiditch in this one too! It was more fun to watch and didn't feel so crummy! Dumbledore did a fantastic job in some of his scenes and so did harry. In fact the Felix felisis scene was the funnest thing i have seen from Harrys character. I was in stitches as he was hilarious! The great thing about it was that it stuck to the book quite a bit, there were lines in the film that didn't change what so ever and that thrilled me! the film as a hole was fantastic and is by far the best in the series....

BUT...

the film on the Novel lovers!

As Half blood prince is one of my favorites in the series, i was really looking forward to see this on screen. Now i loved the film but i have major issues on a lot of what they left out and threw in.

First of all was Ginny/Harry's relationship. It was completely non existent. they didn't even seem to actually want to be with each other. It felt like there only going along for the ride or there just to damn horny and they were the only logical choice. when they had there big kiss, it was so cold and bland that it felt like no big deal! theirs no mention what so ever that they were even going out! Harry and cho had a better relationship then them in OOTP and in the books cho and Harry weren't even really a couple! they just argued a bit. to viewers that have never read the books will be completely confused that they even were a couple because nothing is said! Oh well Hermione tells harry rons ok with it in the final 5 minutes in the film and he doesn't even say anything about it. Like it's not even important which we all know it is.

what the hell happened to the character explanation?? fenrir wasn't even explained as a werewolf he just randomly appears in the film as a lacky! Oh you know he's a bad guy that looks a bit furry but that's it! Kreature and dobby are yet again not here, which is making me think that the frikin screen writers are elfist! Lavender......oh my god. seriously..why did they take it that far. she was funny..to the point of annoyances, but why make her that annoying! she was doing her job just fine, but it's as if the director decided that the elfs, fenrir, even bill and fleur can all be left our of this film, just so we know that ron has a highly annoying girlfriend. cheers...thanks. remus and Tonks are apparently already in there relationship, but unless you have read the books and is willing to catch "Whats wrong sweetie" in the film, then you wouldn't know. There is no explanation that they are together or even why they are there. there's no percy or scrimgeour; which is ok but still, scrimgeour set up harrys dislike and rebellion to the ministry, but there's still time to fix that with DH.

dumbledores pain scenes were amazing but they could have held it just a bit longer. He did a great job doing that but he was way to strong by the time he got to the tower.he didn't appear to be weak at all which made the scene with him and draco pretty wrong footed. Harrys just under the floor being a coward and watching the whole thing, the snape wanders along and says shhh then wanders to dumbledore. again he is to strong to say severus, please. but i have to admit, alan rickman did a fantastic job with snape. He never faltered from snapes feelings in the books. maybe a bit more emotion showing but fantastic. but that leads me to the chase!

the death was perfect by the way it made me gasp!

why are they just strolling along hogwarts like they need to find the bathroom or something? Belletrix is just skipping along randomly destroying things, as you do when your wandering around a castle. snape and draco again still in character like we would expect but wheres the damn fight?? The princes flight was one of the best parts as the action made you adrenaline pump when reading it, but this was just a wander. no excitement! no one even cares apart from harry. Snape does attack harry back like in the films but all he says is "i am the half blood prince" then wanders off. So yeah....umm thanks for letting me know.

I have so much more to complain about but i'll leave it there for now and update later.

blackmage_nuke
07-17-2009, 08:35 AM
I always though house elves and S.P.E.W was an important part of Hermione's characterisation and the lack of these makes her abit two dimentional (one dimentional is abit of a stretch)

I agree with the lack of the final battle too, What was the point of putting in the random battle at the Burrow if you were just going to take out the battle at the end

Markus. D
07-17-2009, 09:03 AM
I think this film is definetly the best so far, key moments of the rather long that are completely relevant. Splendid editing sequences (my favorite being The scene once Molly's house is set on fire). OH! and the special effects were absolutely beautiful to marvel at.

The only part I can I didn't like acting wise, was Ron's lack of reaction to the the fact Harry didn't actually slip him the potion....

Helena Bonham Carter played her role with perfection.
The best acting from Emma Watson since HPatPoA, she's really improved... I found she wasn't uneedingly "Intense" all the time, unlike all of the other films ('cept for many parts of Azk' which she pulled off rather well).
Evanna Lynch: her voice, expression(s) and look suits Luna Lovegood's character very well.
Tom Felton should get some form of award, Draco's Determination/Fear was completely believable.
Alan Rickman gets more amazing with each film, I was blown away in this one.
Jessie Cave... was hilarious, and her sheer coviction/overemotion to getting together Ron was just as I had imagined.

blackmage_nuke
07-17-2009, 09:07 AM
The only part I can I didn't like acting wise, was Ron's lack of reaction to the the fact Harry didn't actually slip him the potion....
I was under the impression that they just never told him about the potion in the movie.

Garnie
07-17-2009, 10:14 AM
The only part I can I didn't like acting wise, was Ron's lack of reaction to the the fact Harry didn't actually slip him the potion....
I was under the impression that they just never told him about the potion in the movie.



i dont think he did.

Markus. D
07-17-2009, 12:05 PM
Hrm.

D;

So after that whole scene in the ... with the table... and Luna Lovegood cosplaying a Lion :{... Ron just had his ears off?

blackmage_nuke
07-17-2009, 12:19 PM
No I mean he didnt know that harry was faking the potion. He was left thinking he had taken it

Also I feel the ending of the last movie was a disapointment as well. The fountain of magical brethren coming to life was one of the things I was really looking foward to seeing and it didnt happen.

Unbreakable Will
07-17-2009, 03:04 PM
Poor Dumbledore, although I didn't really care when this one died. If it had been the original I'd have been more upset, I really enjoyed his acting.

Hermoine is such a whore

Quindiana Jones
07-18-2009, 12:03 AM
I agree with the lack of the final battle too, What was the point of putting in the random battle at the Burrow if you were just going to take out the battle at the end

Ooh! I can answer this one: because they're big idiots. Seriously. This is the stuff I can't stand. :roll2

Rye
07-18-2009, 08:28 PM
I thought this one was the best of all, except for perhaps the first. If just consider by itself, apart from the book, I'd have loved it. I have a few gripes with it not follow key scenes, both for the sake of the plot and because I enjoyed them -The HBP was my favorite book of the series, because I love the scenes about Voldemort's childhood and his mother and grandfather, which were mostly cut out - but over all, I liked it.

However, I hated the random battle.

Also, Malfoy on the brink was played fantastically. He's gotten to be an extremely hot actor, I love the suit on him.

Rebellious Eagle
07-18-2009, 09:33 PM
I really enjoyed this movie, actually. Sure, they left a few parts, but no movie can be perfect. And Harry on the Felix Felicis was hilarious. It even made my dad laugh.

Depression Moon
07-18-2009, 11:19 PM
Ooh! I can answer this one: because they're big idiots. Seriously. This is the stuff I can't stand.

Just like I had said, if you can't make keep your audience's attention without putting in an irrelevant action scene then you're doing something wrong.


I really enjoyed this movie, actually. Sure, they left a few parts, but no movie can be perfect.

I wholly disagree on that. Perfection is in the eye of the beholder, so it is possible for something to be perfect in the eyes of that person, but the problems with these films is that they can't be seen as perfect in the eyes of any of the core HP fans.

oddler
07-20-2009, 06:25 AM
Best Part: Harry's ridiculousness with the Felix Felicis. He said, "I'm going to Hagrid's," exactly like I imagined it in the book.

Worst Part: Retarded Burrow battle was retarded. :(

McLovin'
07-20-2009, 06:45 AM
They shouldn't have left out the funeral. They should have had everyone they left out appear at the funeral and cry n stuff to show the impact of Dumbledore's death.

Hambone
07-20-2009, 10:08 PM
They shouldn't have left out the funeral. They should have had everyone they left out appear at the funeral and cry n stuff to show the impact of Dumbledore's death.

I agree. 2 years ago I got halfway through the book and lost interest in the series. A few days ago I saw the movie and now I'm finishing the book today (I just got to Chapter 27), and I have to say, the movie was pretty good except for all of the stuff that was skipped/altered/put in for no reason (Burrow battle, specifically. Wtf?) I was also a little disappointed when I saw what Slughorn looked like in the movie. I kinda pictured him like how he was described in the book. I like how Lavender Brown was portrayed though.

But alas, The Order of the Phoenix has always been my favorite book AND movie.

Del Murder
07-20-2009, 11:13 PM
This movie was ok. It was a tough one to make a movie out of since there was little action in the book and there were a lot of flashbacks.

My main gripe is Ginny. She's a bad actress and not even pretty. They should have replaced her in movie 4. No one would have cared and the franchise would have been better for it. Her scenes with Potter were just awkward.

*Devore*
07-21-2009, 12:13 AM
I haven't seen the film yet, but from what I have heard, am I right in saying that Dumbledore didn't have a gross blackened hand which was was caused by the ring that had the horcrux in it, which would have caused him to die anyway. It is one of the main reason why he got Snape to kill him. So why leave it out. it would have been an extra 5 mins in make up and its not like he ever explains to harry what happened to it so it would have added much more film time.

Also

Is it just more, or is the lack of Dobby getting F'in annoying. Cause in the future DH film, unless they cut it out, Dobby is going to turn up-save Harry then die...and if you haven't read the books its like "Who's that?...Dobby? from the second one? oh right.. oh well, he's dead now" Where as in the books he makes regular appereances keeping the reader emotionally attached to him. The writters really F'ed up his dramatic ending.

Jessweeee♪
07-21-2009, 12:22 AM
DOBBY NOOOOO ;_;

blackmage_nuke
07-21-2009, 01:02 AM
He does have the gross hand but its not as gross and not as obvious. There are no close ups of it.

Kirobaito
07-21-2009, 02:25 AM
I haven't seen the film yet, but from what I have heard, am I right in saying that Dumbledore didn't have a gross blackened hand which was was caused by the ring that had the horcrux in it, which would have caused him to die anyway. It is one of the main reason why he got Snape to kill him. So why leave it out. it would have been an extra 5 mins in make up and its not like he ever explains to harry what happened to it so it would have added much more film time.
The hand was in it. Did you watch the movie? They show it plainly (and mention it) in the subway station, and when they're in his office, Dumbledore mentions it again, and they show it again. That's about as much mention as it gets in the book, until Book 7.

ff7+ff10 gurl 100
07-21-2009, 04:22 AM
I was really disappointed with it.
I understand that it's a film adaptation and that things are supposed to be cut out and shortened to accommodate time and stuff.
But I didn't appreciate the fact that they played up on the little things and shortened things that mattered and had to do with the plot, and added things that didn't really happen.
Some really important things were to happen, and instead it was 1 1/2 hours of random stuff, Quiditch, Harry/Ginny awkwardness, and things that didn't matter, and an hour of actual plot.
To anyone who hadn't really read the books, it seems hard for them to understand what was really going on, they didn't really share much about the memories, and stuff.

I thought some really important part that was cut out were when all the students take Felix Felices to defend Hogwarts to defend against the Death Eaters, how they cut out Moaning Myrtle during the Sectum Sempra scene (I know, not really important, but I think it was important to show how Draco was still human, even through all Death Eater biz.), and loads of memories.

Also, it really bothered me how during Dumbledore's death scene Harry wasn't frozen, and he just stood down there like a twat while it happened. Wasn't Dumbledore supposed to use his last second to freeze Harry, and not anything else. I dunno.

ANDDDDDD, WTF @ The Burrow burning. So random, and very unfortunate. :/

ANDDDDD, how Lupin and Tonks were just randomly together. But I understand not everything can be fully developed. After all, it's a MOVIE, not a four part saga for every movie. xD I know, I ask too much. lol

I thought it was terrible, most likely because I expect too much, as it's HARRY POTTER.
But, hopefully the next two actually spend time on the plot, and not on things that don't really matter.

McLovin'
07-21-2009, 05:05 AM
I def agree on the Dobby thing. Though they made the 5th movie when the 7th book hadn't been released so that's alright, but they should have still put him in the 6th one at some point so the audience could remember him for the 7th movie. A picture or name mention would do.

And Snape revealing the half-blood prince was done retardedly since the whole movie never once showed Harry trying to find out who it was. Just 5 min of trying to find out who it was would have made a difference imo at the end of who was the prince.

ljkkjlcm9
07-21-2009, 05:13 AM
my biggest issue is the entire Ginny thing.

Ginny was a huge motivating factor for Harry going into the 7th book, and was the main reason Harry had a hard time trying to go off on his own. Their relationship is also suppose to show the HUGE contrast between him and Voldemort.... Harry fights for Love, while Voldemort just fights for more power.

On top of that, the scenes between Harry and Ginny felt forced, rather than flowing into eachother. They spent far more time developing Ron's random relationship with the crazy girl, than Harry's with Ginny. Hell, even Ron and Hermoine got more development than Harry with Ginny which is completely absurd. I LOVED Ginny after book 6, and I still barely know who she is after movie 6.

I don't have a problem with the actress though. I think she's cute, which is pretty much how I pictured Ginny. In no way gorgeous, but cute. I feel they made her play the timid character too much though.

THE JACKEL

ff7+ff10 gurl 100
07-21-2009, 05:34 AM
And Snape revealing the half-blood prince was done retardedly since the whole movie never once showed Harry trying to find out who it was. Just 5 min of trying to find out who it was would have made a difference imo at the end of who was the prince.

Agreed. You could kinda tell that it was just thrown in there. It was just Snape walking to to Harry and going "Sup, You know that spell you used on Draco? That's mine. I'm the Half Blood Prince. Bye. *walks away*" Pretty lame if you ask me.

Freya
07-21-2009, 07:02 AM
I saw it and thought it was good. Not great but good. It seemed to me like they were trying to put too much into what they missed before and missed out on the whole half blood prince thing that's in the freaking title.

Also ginny does this thing where she talks out of the side of her mouth that bugs me. Also the ginny and harry kiss thing, it seemed cute but yeah forced. They don't have good chemistry which is very sad :(

I did like the way Tom played Draco though, he did a good job. Also Bellatrix is how I expected her to be. :P

It was a good movie but I wish they put more of the half blood prince in it and go more into voldys pasts. :/

bipper
07-21-2009, 07:25 AM
I seen it. It seemed rushed. Very much so. I don't blame the actors as much as the clock.

It seemed like a putty movie. That is, it didn't feel like it had a real solid beginning, middle, or ending. It is just there to fill the gaps of previous and future movies. I dunno, cause I never read the books.

I seen Ice Age III prior. That made me happy all day.

Miriel
07-21-2009, 08:18 AM
Ginny was SO bad in this film. That shoelaces scene just about had my skin crawling, it was so awkward! Harry was bracing himself like he was gonna get a BJ.

Snape & Slughorn were both lovely though. Alan Rickman as Snape in particular just seems to get better and better with each film. And Jim Broadbent really can do no wrong. DanRad and and Rupert Grint were pretty good too. I think they have such great chemistry together. Really sells the idea that their characters are BFFs. Emma Watson's Hermione is horrible as usual. Overact much? Sheesh girl.

The movie was entertaining but forgettable. Pretty much the same as all the other HP films. I watch it, enjoy it, but a week later I can barely remember scenes or dialogue or anything like that. Just a vague recollection of the film as having been, "alright".

Værn
07-21-2009, 08:22 AM
He does have the gross hand but its not as gross and not as obvious. There are no close ups of it.
The opening scene would've been an excellent chance for a closeup, of only Harry and Dumbledore had been placed on opposite sides of each other T_T
(Of course, now that I think about it, that would have been before that happened, right?)

Hopefully they'll start the next movie with Dumbledore's funeral or something... that's kind of a big deal in the last book. Especially since the one of the last things we saw was Harry picking up the wand in Dumbledore's old office.

Hambone
07-23-2009, 07:02 PM
That shoelaces scene just about had my skin crawling, it was so awkward! Harry was bracing himself like he was gonna get a BJ.

Oh man, I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who felt that way during that scene! I looked around the theater to see if anyone had caught what I had during that scene and it looked like I was alone on that one and I felt kinda bad for thinking that way. :(

I have to say though, like right after they kissed was really funny. Harry was walking alone in the snow when Ron came up to him and asked "Hey, have you and Ginny done it yet?" Hilarious.

arcanedude34
07-23-2009, 10:11 PM
I think this (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/bum-reviews/9639-hp6) says it better than I ever could.

McLovin'
07-23-2009, 10:24 PM
Am I the only one who saw every scene with Harry and Slughorn as a sexual innuendo? :p

"Oh professor, I just wanted to stay after class...to talk to you...;)"

"Pineapples...they're your favorite sir!"

sephireland
07-23-2009, 11:19 PM
Am I the only one who saw every scene with Harry and Slughorn as a sexual innuendo? :p

"Oh professor, I just wanted to stay after class...to talk to you...;)"

"Pineapples...they're your favorite sir!"

:D I did laugh at that too.

I also burst out laughing at Dumbledore, "Harry, you need a shave". Really??? Surely Harry should've said something like, "well one of us does, sir."

Wolf Kanno
08-03-2009, 05:03 AM
Just saw it and thought it was pretty good. I really laughed when I saw the first scene with Ron after the love potion. That smile and starry eyed look made me think "he just got some, didn't he?"

Polaris
08-03-2009, 01:51 PM
I don't know if it's the book's fault ot the film, but what the heck is a half-blood prince? Does the book explain it? That was my biggest concert, I walk away when the film ended still not understanding the "half-blood" thing.

McLovin'
08-03-2009, 06:37 PM
I don't know if it's the book's fault ot the film, but what the heck is a half-blood prince? Does the book explain it? That was my biggest concert, I walk away when the film ended still not understanding the "half-blood" thing.

I don't remember exactly but it was the name young Snape gave to himself because his mother had the surname Prince and and married to a man with the surname Snape but one of them was a muggle I think making young Snape a half-blood therefore he calls himself "the half-blood Prince."

Araciel
08-03-2009, 07:21 PM
I thought you had to be pureblood to get into Slytherin.. I seem to remember the name was the only thing that made him a half-blood.

Polaris
08-03-2009, 07:53 PM
Oh ok thanks guys, that wasn't mentioned in the film :( that was why I got so confused but I think I will try to buy the book because even though the film was average (I liked the style more than the story) it seemed a little rushed.