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Breine
07-24-2009, 04:12 PM
Every horny Final Fantasy fanboy (and fangirl too) out there has at one point in their life fantasized about Shiva. Drooled over her sexy and feminine curves too! Obviously because she's smokin' hot, just look here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/Breine/1111.jpg
She even has that "come hither look" ;)


BUT, I've made a shocking revelation! Click here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva) and you will know what I'm talking about.


Yes, it's true - Shiva's actually a guy! :eek: In other words, she's a ladyboy. But yeah, ladyboys can be hot. I for one should know! :breine:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/Breine/3181_165429590065_693235065_6498226.jpg
If you don't know what you're going in to, you're easily deceived. And that leads me to the topic of this thread:


What was Square thinking deceiving all the poor fanboys/fangirls like that? What do you think of all of this? - and has Square ever deceived you in any other way?

Unbreakable Will
07-24-2009, 07:10 PM
...
o.O damn you Square Enix...

Kawaii Ryűkishi
07-24-2009, 09:33 PM
Bahamut isn't really a dragon, either.

black orb
07-24-2009, 09:36 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/Breine/3181_165429590065_693235065_6498226.jpg

>>> WTF?, is that really you with a ladyboy??..

G13
07-24-2009, 09:52 PM
Bahamut isn't really a dragon, either.

Yeah, isn't he a whale? Or an elephant? Something big, I know that.

I think I'll take my chances with Shiva being a ladyboy. How often do you get to play with blue boobies?

Breine
07-24-2009, 10:28 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/Breine/3181_165429590065_693235065_6498226.jpg

>>> WTF?, is that really you with a ladyboy??..

Aye :holmes:

trancekuja
07-24-2009, 10:37 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/Breine/3181_165429590065_693235065_6498226.jpg

>>> WTF?, is that really you with a ladyboy??..
Which one did you ask? :p

black orb
07-24-2009, 10:48 PM
Aye :holmes:
>>> Man, this must be the first time I feel really envious of someone in this fora..

Del Murder
07-24-2009, 11:19 PM
*quotes the picture and makes a comment about it unrelated to thread topic*

sir helix
07-25-2009, 12:10 AM
Wait, you all mean to tell me that NONE OF YOU knew that Shiva is a male God and Not the Goddes that he has been tranformed into by squares ppl.

this enrages me about how illimformed the kids of today are. ahhhhhhhhhh

G13
07-25-2009, 12:44 AM
Oh, uh, of course I did, but I was just waiting 'til someone else made the thread... heh heh heh.

Leeza
07-25-2009, 01:11 AM
Sure you did, Guardian XIII. :)

Freya
07-25-2009, 01:15 AM
Ladyboy or not she's still smokin. ;)

Leeza
07-25-2009, 01:16 AM
...but he/she's ice! :)

Freya
07-25-2009, 01:19 AM
It's like that urm... dry ice. It's so cold it burns ;)

Leeza
07-25-2009, 01:21 AM
Good answer. :)

Iceglow
07-25-2009, 04:44 AM
Shiva is just a name at the end of the day, I believe Square obviously thought that depicting Shiva as a female ice elemental would be more suitable which is actually quite logical based on the fact that ice is frozen water but still water. In most fantasy settings water and air elementals are often than not depicted as female. Same as Ifrit (Efreet another way of spelling the same word or even the plural I think) is actually not the devil he seems to get portrayed as. Ifrit are male or female, winged spirits below the level of demons and angels. However turning Ifrit in to a huge kick ass non-winged demon makes a lot of sense from the fantasy setting.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
07-25-2009, 04:59 AM
The fact remains that, regardless of whether the change is good, Square's Shiva (along with Bahamut, and Orthros, and Typhon, and all the freakish monsters in FFIII named after Judaic angels, etc.) is wildly different from her namesake. I think that's all this is meant to point out.

Miscellany: The plural of Efreet is Efreeti.

Namelessfengir
07-25-2009, 06:01 AM
i have no opinion either way ladyboys are good people as for deceiving fanboys that was just laying the groundwork for acceptance of transgendered people

Breine
07-25-2009, 10:40 AM
Wait, you all mean to tell me that NONE OF YOU knew that Shiva is a male God and Not the Goddes that he has been tranformed into by squares ppl.

this enrages me about how illimformed the kids of today are. ahhhhhhhhhh

And the next thing you're gonna tell me is that s/he's not really a summon too!? :P Of course I knew, but it doesn't exclude a little thread-y fun, now does it?

Sword
07-25-2009, 12:22 PM
I found this out ages ago. Ixion also wasn't an electrified unicorn.

G13
07-26-2009, 02:01 AM
^ Lies! I refuse to believe it!

DarkBahamut
07-26-2009, 03:54 AM
No. The summon Shiva is a female. Shiva is also a name of a Hindu god. Square made their own new summon, but named it Shiva probably because of similar personalities. I already knew that there was a Hindu god named Shiva, but Shiva is not a ladyboy.

The same thing with other summons. Bahamut might not be a dragon, but the dragon has personalities of Bahamut.

Nice joke, Breine.

Breine
07-26-2009, 02:30 PM
It's funny how many people are not getting the joke :p

Quindiana Jones
07-26-2009, 04:45 PM
Shiva rhymes with Quina.

DarkBahamut
07-26-2009, 07:23 PM
It's funny how many people are not getting the joke :p

Well, I get it. It's just that I'm making people who don't understand get it.

Breine
07-26-2009, 07:55 PM
It's funny how many people are not getting the joke :p

Well, I get it. It's just that I'm making people who don't understand get it.

Oh I see :)

Nice
07-26-2009, 09:10 PM
Such good fun! The truth shall set ye free you bastards! My wife's a Hindu, so I found out about Shiva like that and my world has not been the same since.

arcanedude34
07-27-2009, 04:48 AM
Actually, not male... didn't Shiva have qualities of both male and female? I may be wrong, but I remember hermaphrodity playing a role...

xXsarahXx
07-27-2009, 11:02 AM
I think i remember my RE teacher saying something like that arcanedude.
Some religions think shes a man, some a woman also.

Bastian
07-29-2009, 12:24 AM
Yeah, I found out a couple years ago Shiva was male.
And then just last year that Bahamut was a gigantic fish so large that Isa (Jesus) fainted from the sight of it. Bahamut carries the world on his back, and is sometimes depicted with a hippopotamus or elephant head.

Quindiana Jones
08-07-2009, 12:22 PM
My mum?

Rantz
08-07-2009, 01:12 PM
The transformation has begun...

http://i26.:bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:/301pzk5.jpg

Rocket Edge
08-07-2009, 07:57 PM
Shiva is still my favourite summon though, gotta love her. Hold out for me baby! HOLD OUT FOR ME!!!

I think I'll go draw her again or something.

Shattered Dreamer
08-07-2009, 09:43 PM
Shiva - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva)

Shiva is a god of the Hindu religion more info in the link above. FF's Shiva though is hot:p

Bahamut - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahamut)

Bahamut is apparently a fish/hippo/elephant.

Bahamut (Dungeons & Dragons) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahamut_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons))

Bahamut first appears as a dragon in Dungeons & Dragons!

qwertysaur
08-07-2009, 10:38 PM
Aurochs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurochs)

sir helix
08-07-2009, 10:42 PM
So can we argue about odin......no! good because FF has created a very good charecter that is very odinish.

theres an island peoples that worship the goddes of the volcano and her name is (Drum role) Shiva, must be coincidense.

leviathen is one of the seven princes of hell (eight if you include asteroth), leviathen is the prince of envy and the snake that sweet talked eve into eating the apple.

Momiji
08-08-2009, 03:01 AM
Shiva - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva)

Shiva is a god of the Hindu religion more info in the link above. FF's Shiva though is hot:p



How ironic. ;)

Shattered Dreamer
08-08-2009, 11:55 AM
Shiva - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva)

Shiva is a god of the Hindu religion more info in the link above. FF's Shiva though is hot:p



How ironic. ;)

The fact I think a god is hot:confused:

Rodarian
08-08-2009, 01:24 PM
Yes Shiva is in actuality is Male in Hindusim..However a little known fact is that He an also be a She when s/he wills it.


Shiva the Ice Goddess in FF is based on the Norse Goddess of an obscure name , and Shiva is modification of 'shiver'


FYI: Ifrits are Jijins aka Genie's ....these species are based on Islamic texts...and yes they DO exist....

Momiji
08-08-2009, 03:17 PM
Shiva - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva)

Shiva is a god of the Hindu religion more info in the link above. FF's Shiva though is hot:p



How ironic. ;)

The fact I think a god is hot:confused:

....no.

It's ironic because Shiva, in Final Fantasy lore, is an ice goddess, and you think she's 'hot'. Ice is cold, not hot. It was just petty wordplay. Don't hurt yourself, now. :p

KentaRawr!
08-08-2009, 04:24 PM
I knew this. And Gilgamesh also isn't a multi-armed swordsman, but he DID appear on a boat!

Tainted Angel
09-06-2009, 05:07 AM
On one hand this thread makes me want to come out of the virtual closet about this and admit that I'm not normal. However, I'm also wondering if the OP was trying to come out or not... so I'm not sure to agree with him or keep quiet...

..except that having written that, I'm too late about keeping quiet.

auronlu
09-06-2009, 10:54 PM
Shiva makes me laugh.

I think it really IS Shiva. He's a major trickster god, in some stories. He usually shows up as male, but he can be hermaphrodite or even put on a female avatar when it suits him.

I think he's having the last laugh with all the FF fans worshiping his blue booty!

My theory, corroborated by nothing whatsoever, is that when Square was creating Summons early on, they were grabbing mythological figures a lot more randomly than they do now. Someone said, "Shiva, there's a good one!" Someone else looked at an icon of Shiva and mistook his girlyboy hips for a girl, not understanding Indian art styles (here's a typical icon of Shiva (http://mantiqaltayr.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/shiva.jpg)). They got the BLUE part correct, but then they went with ice (it was supposed to be poison that turned him that color) instead of fire!

And the rest is history!

That, or else when FF first introduced Shiva, the game didn't give a gender, and later the game designers assigned one without realizing it was a particular god.

The one that startled me more -- I am very silly -- was the horse Odin's riding in FFVIII. It has six legs. In Norse myth, it has eight! I suppose that was too difficult to animate.

*rereads more carefully*

Rodarian, do you have any reference for a Norse Shiva? My grounding in Norse mythology is weaker, but as a mythology buff -- in fact I'm working on a graduate degree in mythology (want fries with that?) -- I am intrigued. That is not one I've come across.

Forsaken Lover
09-15-2009, 08:11 AM
"Bisexual is a person who reaches down the front of someone's pants, and they're satisfied with whatever they find!" -Dana Carvey

In short, I'm cool with her being a ladyboy.

Fynn
09-15-2009, 08:25 AM
Aha! But there is also a Slavic goddes called Živa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%BDiva_(goddess))! Not close enough? Well, this (http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siwa_(bogini_s%C5%82owia%C5%84ska)) is how you spell her name in Polish (note that "w" is spelled exactly like a "v", and if an "s" comes before an "i" it is always spelled in a very similar fashion to the English "sh").

Kyros
09-28-2009, 04:32 AM
I thought everyone knew Shiva was a god, the fact so many didnt know this just b/c of FF makes me laugh :P

rubah
09-28-2009, 04:56 AM
Well, you could say the same thing for Azi Dhaka, Valefor, etc, Kyros ;)

Kyros
09-28-2009, 08:19 PM
Azi Dhaka? whossat?

rubah
09-28-2009, 11:55 PM
Sorry, there's another a in there.

Some of the ffx-2 monsters come from Persian mythology. Azi Dahaka is from chapter 5, Angra Mainyu is chillin' in the bikanel sands

Kyros
09-29-2009, 12:38 AM
I didnt do tons of stuff outside the main storyline in X2 since I missed something and knew I wasnt getting 100% and dont remember many of the random names outside of main charas in the storyline :x

smittenkitten
10-30-2009, 03:05 AM
Well doesn't bother me I like it both ways! ^^

nik0tine
10-30-2009, 04:12 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/Breine/3181_165429590065_693235065_6498226.jpg

The ladyboy is the one in the black shirt, right?

Unbreakable Will
10-30-2009, 05:26 AM
Good lord Niko, this thread is ages old

Quindiana Jones
10-30-2009, 10:22 AM
I like Breine's t-shirt, because it tells us his nepals are behind two of the six goats. How exciting.

Breine
10-30-2009, 11:06 AM
Oh Quin, they're yaks. Nepal is all about yaks.


..and the shirt is green, nik0tine :P

Quindiana Jones
10-30-2009, 11:54 AM
I want to see your nepals. Do you hairy nepals? How many other nipple comments must I make till people get the joke? :D

Breine
10-30-2009, 02:09 PM
I want to see your nepals. Do you hairy nepals? How many other nipple comments must I make till people get the joke? :D

Haha xD

Sorry, I so didn't get it before.

Christmas
10-30-2009, 02:21 PM
Pu Pu turn me on regardlessly of its gender. :bigsmile:

nik0tine
10-30-2009, 05:10 PM
Good lord Niko, this thread is ages oldI so didn't revive this thread. :p

Christmas
06-22-2022, 07:53 AM
PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE NIPPLES! SHIRTLESS NIPPLE-LESS SEPHIROTH IS A LIE!