"Someone should make a UFC/MMA thread"

[Raistlin]

So a couple of years ago, I was talking to this guy. I don't want to give you his real name so he won't be embarrassed, but let's call him "DK." Now DK was extremely retarded. Seriously, the guy could barely dress himself and constantly was coming out of his room wearing shirts as pants. And he hated the UFC and Mixed Martial Arts in general (completely unrelated, of course). He yelled about how "gay" and boring it was for one guy to hump the other guy on the ground for 15 minutes (paraphrasing). I argued with him a bit, but it soon became evident that talking with a mentally disabled person was pointless.

But then, earlier this summer, I happen to be talking to this DK fellow again, and he told me to get a game called UFC Undisputed and how much he'd been watching UFC lately. "What the hell," I ask, "you hate the UFC!" His response was "no way, man, UFC is totally awesome!" I realized that DK had been watching it very regularly for the past while. His mental affliction had mysteriously gone away as well.

This story is simply to segue into the question: Do you watch UFC/MMA? Discuss other related things: favorite fighter, fight, style of fighting, etc.

[SomethingBig]

I was once a wussy boy who wore thick glasses, had buck teeth, and put pens in my shirt pocket. But then I started watching UFC and I became a REAL man!

I've only actually seen a few fights. My brother's way into it and we watched a PPV for his birthday a few weeks ago. It was where Brock Lesnar dominated some guy to retain the title. I also saw Kimbo Slice's laughable 15 second loss to Seth Petruzelli. If had the time, I'd definitely watch more of it.

[DK]

If you're gonna blame anyone, blame Rashad Evans. My first dealings with the UFC where back when Rashad didn't know jack :bou::bou::bou::bou: and did Lay and Pray for 15 minutes on people because he didn't know how to do anything else. It was the most boring and awful crap ever. If someone had shown me Wanderlei Silva stomping on peoples faces in Pride I probably would have liked it a whole lot more. :D

anyway I would like to rave moar but busy playing Fallout 3 so yeah. Just like to say I'm already preparing to mourn for Randy Couture, 'cause Big Nog is gonna kill him.

[Raistlin]

You know I love you, Dan. :love:


It was where Brock Lesnar dominated some guy to retain the title.

Brock Lesnar is a huge scary beast.

Anyway, not really anymore, but I used to like Matt Hughes a lot, but only because Hughes vs. Trigg #2, which I saw when I was first getting into UFC, was ridiculously amazing. Seriously, biggest comeback I've ever seen in a fight. I still do love watching GSP, because he's probably the best athlete I've ever seen in MMA. All of the typical stand-up fighters are generally entertaining as well (Lesnar, Liddell, etc.).

[krissy]

i think it kind of fell apart for me when i realized st. pierre had his own line of t-shirts
like who in k1 has their own t shirts

edit: to be fair i will watch it at a bar if im there an it's on

[Raistlin]

i think it kind of fell apart for me when i realized st. pierre had his own line of t-shirts
like who in k1 has their own t shirts

I'm pretty sure that every major figure in UFC has t-shirts and 9804385043 sponsors and all sorts of crap. And UFC is now more popular than K1 ever was, I'm pretty sure. :p

[krissy]

i watched an interview with the ceo and he seems like a cool guy
definitely smarter than what you'd expect a fighting thing ceo to be
his story of 'the rise to power' was pretty cool

ok i looked it up

YouTube - Dana White on The Hour with George Stroumboulopoulos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apzi6R1J-bQ)

[theundeadhero]

Watching how akward and unbalanced the first few UFC fights were amuses me. It also amuses me to remember how I got knocked unconscious in the second round of my Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu clench test and unconsciously held conversations :p

[DK]

k so if you can get ahold of UFC 102 do it, not even over yet but it is worth it for Nate Marquardt knocking Maia out. that was god damn brutal as :bou::bou::bou::bou:.

[Psychotic]

Hahahahaha Nate fucking killed him. It was hilarious.

[Ouch!]

I've seen a few fights. That :bou::bou::bou::bou: gets brutal.

[Raistlin]

k so if you can get ahold of UFC 102 do it, not even over yet but it is worth it for Nate Marquardt knocking Maia out. that was god damn brutal as :bou::bou::bou::bou:.

102 is out already? Jesus. I'll try to find it.

[Psychotic]

Watching how akward and unbalanced the first few UFC fights were amuses me. Fred Ettish is a god.

Also yeah, Nogueira v Couture wasn't the boring hugfest I said it'd be. Still not as entertaining as watching Maia getting iced! Fuck Brandon Vera though.

[DK]

I dunno, Maia getting destroyed was an awesome moment but Big Nog vs Couture was 3 rounds of sick action. Every time Big Nog waded his way into Coutures punches without his guard up I had a heart attack. But his iron head is back at full strength fgj, though gotta give major props to old man Couture for not being finished off despite how many times he got put on his ass and locked into subs. That first choke he had on him in the first round was awesome.

Demand they give Big Nog a rematch with Frank Mir now that he doesn't have Staph Infection and a ruined knee, and see what happens to him.

[Peegee]

I haven't followed UFC since UFC 80 something, I believe. I missed the entire Lesnar thing.

I should really get them. I almost exclusively watch UFC for reasons that can only be said to be 'brand loyalty'

Watching the early UFCs taught me much about fighting, or rather, how fighting isn't what we thought it was as a kid, or what we thought it was studying classic martial arts for years.

[Psychotic]

Hermes Franca :(

Men with pink hair deserve victory by default.

EDIT: Cro Cop :(

EDIT2: Ace :(

[DK]

Was a pretty good card for mine although it petered out towards the end. Escudero's KO was awesome, loved the slam he smashed Miller with before it as well. Griffin taught Franca how to actually throw a punch, Kamp Mann got smashed up by a Brit on debut which was nice. Made a mockery of the fact that Swick/Kampmann was supposed to decide the #1 contender to fight GSP. Mirko got murked which is fairly gutted. He looks totally past it. Belfort nailed Franklin although the whole hammerfist to the back of the head doesn't seem all that above board to me, not that I care much. Franklin got taken in like a minute hahahaha.

Now, god damn roll on October 24th and give me Machida/Shogun already

[Kyros]

I was surprised Griffin knew how to win w/o it going to decision, its about time. I called every fight I think except for Cro Cop, but that was probably just me still hoping for another big run from him :(

[Madame Adequate]

Belfort v. Franklin was well dodgy imho, the guy was pretty done anyway but not sure that hammerfist to the back of the head should have been allowed.

Kampmann got utterly destroyed and it was glorious though.

[Raistlin]

So I'm just now watching UFC 102, and holy crap that Marquardt KO punch has to be one of the best knockouts I've seen. First punch even! Jesus.

[NeoCracker]

Penny Arcade! - The Ball Region (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/7/15/)

It needed posting. :p

That said, I do enjoy a good UFC fight now and then. not a major fan though.

[Peegee]

Wow..

I am watching UFC 56 and not remembering anything. This is painful. I will not be up to date for an entire month here.

Also on my to-do list is to watch ufc 1-20 again. Those fights are the coolest from a historical perspective -- people just learning about MMA and how BJJ ruled traditional fighting styles. Good stuff.

[KentaRawr!]

I've never watched UFC, but I'm taking Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu classes, which apparently pops up in UFC a lot. It's fun if you imagine you're a pretzel, and your opponent is a baker. Then being helpless doesn't feel quite as bad! :p

[DK]

It does pop up quite a bit in the UFC, but look at my profile picture if you want to see what happened to the supposed "best BJJ artist in MMA today" at UFC 102. (21 seconds into the first round, to be precise.)

That abberation aside though yeah it is good watching the BJJ guys do their stuff. I am more a fan of submission work on the ground than GnP.

[KentaRawr!]

Wow.

I'm not exactly one to speak, just being a beginner when it comes to martial arts, and barely watching this newfangled UFC stuffs, but it seems odd that the BJJ guy tried to open with a kick. But like I said, I'm just a beginner, so I'm not one to talk.

[DK]

hahah yeah basically he is a real sick BJJ guy but everyone was going on about him being one dimensional and stuff so he ended up working his standup and then yeah. It didn't quite work out. I think he wanted to sort of prove himself a bit against one of the more noted fighters in the UFC and well, fair play to him but he didn't do it right. But it was pretty much an abberation like I said I doubt it would happen again.

it is pretty good to get a well rounded game in case that sort of thing happens though. Before that fight he was undefeated like 10-0 with all wins by submission I think so his BJJ must have been working pretty well for him up to that point. also he was fighting a very high level fighter in Nate the Great. I mean all this being said when you get someone who has nothing BJJ wise in them and they get taken to ground they usually get raped pretty badly. :wacky:

really it's just a sick KO and I felt like advertising it a bit xD shouldn't take it as a straight guide of how BJJ fares in the UFC or mma at all for that matter.

[Raistlin]

Yeah that's probably a once-in-a-career type KO. More just awesome and hilarious to watch than a statement of how submission fighters fare (as the good ones can do quite well in the UFC).

[Kyros]

I cant wait for rogers vs fedor, its going to be awesome! :D

[Psychotic]

Shogun was fucking robbed.

[Raistlin]

Is UFC... what is it, 104 done already? I just got 103 downloaded and haven't even been able to watch it yet. I will catch up... one of these days.

[DK]

Shogun absolutely robbed, am so heartbroken over the whole thing.

[black orb]

He yelled about how "gay" and boring it was for one guy to hump the other guy on the ground for 15 minutes
>>> I totally agree..:monster:

[Madame Adequate]

Rarely have I seen such blatant robbery take place :cry:

[Raistlin]

I'm kinda getting the impression that someone may have been robbed.

[Alex151]

the worst call I've ever seen. I have no idea what the hell the judges were watching. Machida took at most, only the third round. I'm no fan of Machida and it pisses me off more because I don't think anyone else was going to beat him except for Shogun or possibly Rampage, Shogun having the better chance of the two.

[Raistlin]

So I'm finally watching the Shogun fight everyone's talking about. I'll keep score after each round.

First round: Shogun, but barely, for landing a couple of more decent kicks. Very even fight, could go either way. They seemed fairly even in striking.

Second round: Also very close. Shogun seemed to land more kicks in the last 1:30, but I think Machida did the most in the first 3:30. I'd give it (again, barely) to Machida.

Third round: I went into the last 1:30 or so having no idea who was winning this round. I started to lean towards Shogun after a couple of more good body kicks, but then Machida took him to the cage and threw a ton of punches, which was the most significant event of the round. On the replay it looks like Shogun got in 1-2 good punches during that, but Machida landed 4-5, along with a good knee. Yet again very close, but I'd give it to Machida.

Fourth round: very little happened in this round. Machida landed a couple of quick punches at one point, but outside of that 10 seconds did next to nothing, and Shogun at least landed a few kicks throughout. So I'd give it to Shogun.

Fifth round: I thought Shogun controlled the first 2:00 or so (though not significantly), and then Machida landed a couple of great knees, which was the most significant event until Shogun landed a couple of good punches of his own about a minute later. Not much happened the rest of the fight. I'd give this one to Shogun again.

So I have it scored it 48-47, Shogun. However, rounds 1 and 2 both could really go either way (I thought 3 was clearly Machida and 4 was clearly Shogun). If round 1 was given to Machida, I'd have no problem with the score flipped.

And that's what happened: 48-47 Machida. Yeah, I thought Shogun did better. But "robbed" is too harsh. The one announcer who kept hyping Shogun may have skewed some perceptions; I did not think Shogun clearly won either of the first two rounds (though I gave round 1 to him).

[DK]

I'd have to watch it again to properly remember it (cba to do it yet) but I gave it 4-1 to Shogun. The only thing I distinctly remember that I cba to pick up on at the moment is that flurry of punches he threw at the end of the 3rd, of which most were glancing blows and then he got smashed in the head with a right hook counter and was forced to back out again. If you're going for aggression then I guess you could score that flurry to Machida but if you're looking at who actually did the damage in that exchange it was probably Shogun. Also if you're going to score on aggression then you'd have to factor in for pretty much the rest of the fight the one pushing the fight was Shogun, the fight stats had him outlanding Machida something like 82-46 with blows and his accuracy was around 55% to Machidas 35%. Octagon control would have also had to go to Shogun as well for mine. Sure, no one is denying it was a close fight, but I believe (and almost every mma source you can find out there, there's a big ass list on sherdog but I cba to grab it right now) it was a close fight that Shogun won, and he should be the LHW champ as we speak. Especially if you look at it another way and think that if instead of scoring it 10-9 they would have used the 10-10 for close rounds, you could have called the first two 10-10's because they were pretty close and Shogun still would have taken in on the back of the 4th and 5th which were both his imho. No matter how I look at it I just don't see what Machida did that deserved to win moreso than Shogun.

[Raistlin]

The only thing I distinctly remember that I cba to pick up on at the moment is that flurry of punches he threw at the end of the 3rd, of which most were glancing blows and then he got smashed in the head with a right hook counter and was forced to back out again. If you're going for aggression then I guess you could score that flurry to Machida but if you're looking at who actually did the damage in that exchange it was probably Shogun.

I'd have to dispute that. Most of Machida's punches were glancing, yes, but he landed solidly a few times, and Shogun only got that one good punch in. If Machida had been felled or "rocked" by it or something, it would be different, but he wasn't remotely. Machida seemed to get the best of that encounter. Again, I blame the announcing. And I don't think "aggression" by itself warrants points, but dictating the pace of the fight, controlling the encounters definitely should (which is my main justification for saying round 4 was "clearly Shogun").

However, I agree that I think Shogun won the fight. I just think it was really too close to say he was "robbed."

And judges can give 10-10 rounds???

[Montoya]

Not really a fan. In fact, I wouldn't know a single thing about MMA if it wasn't for my brother. I've seen several fights and have enjoyed them.

Favorite UFC: Anderson Silva.
Favorite MMA: Fedor Emelianenko

[Psychotic]

I am probably never going to watch a Couture fight again. The man is just straight out boring.

[Raistlin]

He's like 80. You can't really blame him for not being a real exciting fighter nowadays.

[Psychotic]

Someone needs to take him out the back of the barn and shoot him.

Mind you there's rumours he'll get a LHW title shot if he wins his next fight, so that'll be against Shogun or Machida and that should be the end of that.

[Raistlin]

I just watched 105, and I must say, I don't understand the announcers (or judges) sometimes. I don't understand how every judge universally gave Couture round 1 and round 3 (round 2 was definitively Vera). They both admittedly could go either way, especially round 1 in which absolutely nothing happened: Vera landed a couple of hits, and then Couture hugged him against the fence for 4:30. And the announcers said he was "dominating" and "doing just what he wanted"? What? He did NO damage. NO takedown. The announcers kept saying "dirty boxing" but I think I saw like two half-punches. Vera didn't do anything either, so as I said I could see Couture taking the round, but it was hardly clear.

And round 3 I thought went to Vera. Yeah, Randy landed a couple of punches early and did his hug-job for the next 2:50, but Vera landed some vicious kicks, and later some punches, AND had an actual takedown. While again I could see a judge giving Couture the round, since it wasn't that definitive, all three? Really?

At least one announcer said he thought that it was another example of a "problem" with judging in MMA.

[DK]

I had the fight scored for Vera and I'm no fan of his. But yeah the commentators are huge Randy nuthuggers so it didn't surprise me all that much to hear them on it for him, but yeah Rogan was pretty much against the decision at the end.

Pearson-Riley was the best show on the card for mine, Pearson was awesome

[Raistlin]

However, during that fight it did amuse me greatly when Goldberg did the whole spiel about "any unauthorized reproduction is illegal blah blah blah" and Rogan said "you can't stop the internet!" I was kind of surprised he'd say that. Kudos to him, though. He was the one who also publicly said after the match that there was a problem with UFC judging.

EDIT: also, I agree that Pearson was impressive. There were a couple of good KOs in the earlier fights.

[DK]

You're finally up to date now you awful man. I hope you are going to watch 106 this evening!

Then again I'm not really looking forward to it. The only fight I really wanted to see was Karo's comeback and now they've booted him out of the UFC. Griffin vs Ortiz, ugh. Don't really like either of them, but Ortiz is an asshat so I hope Forrest smashes him and then gets tooled by someone else. Hopefully Thiago Silva will lose to Rashad and then we can have Griffin vs Silva

[Raistlin]

Wait, what? This evening? 105 was like a week ago!

Also, Karo was kicked out? Why?

And Griffin vs. Ortiz seems to be yet another bout of the "formers." At least these two are younger and potentially bit more exciting to watch, though Griffin never really impressed me.

[DK]

Well apparently he decided to pull out of the fight yesterday and Dana got pissed and booted him out. It probably was because Karo has his whole being addicted to painkillers :bou::bou::bou::bou: going on and didn't want to take the drug test, but it still sucks. Dana should be trying to help the guy out rather than just casting him out.

also yeah but 105 wasn't a PPV in the US was it? I think they aired it free on Spike or something like that.

[Raistlin]

I have no idea since I just download them some day afterward to watch at my leisure. So I won't be watching 106 this evening, and instead sometime next week.

[Psychotic]

Stream it like a true man would :colbert:

[Raistlin]

So I just watched 106, and I don't know wtf Ortiz was thinking in the 3rd round. He was coming off a round he clearly won and literally just stood there for 2+ minutes as Griffin pounded on him. I think Ortiz threw two light punches that whiffed. And only two weak takedown attempts the whole round?

I thought Ortiz won the first round as well (narrowly), giving him the win anyway, but he deserved to lose it after that abysmal finish.

[Moon Rabbits]

UFC bothers me. Bothers me so smurfing very very much. Not only does it solidify me in my opinions of masculinity and testosterone being evil evil things, but the kind of people who watch it annoy me (no offense, loves). Something just pisses me off when I'm stuck in a whole room of straight guys going "oooooooooooh" and cheering and being all rowdy and punching eachothers arms and talking about how "hardcore" all this :bou::bou::bou::bou: is. I'm sorry, but I fail to see how people fail to see the inherent homo-eroticism in all this:

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00430/mir_682x400_430613a.jpg

http://www.x929.ca/shows/newsboy/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/ufc-2.jpg

http://homosuperiorblog.com/homosuperiorblog/wp-content/gallery/butch-muscle-1/ufc46020.jpg

Remove 'dem shorts and you've got porn. Don't deny it either. I've seen porn that is actually exactly like UFC (fighting/punching/blood and all) but without shorts.

Even when the blood starts pouring, all I can think is "this is prettttttty smurfin' gay." I've learned not to bring this up around UFC fans, though, lest I face the wrath of the insecure het man who thinks he's as tough as those fellers. And by wrath I mean a lot of posturing and bragging.

[Raistlin]

So wait... you're criticizing MMA for being "gay" and MMA fans for being "insecure." I don't think that word means what you think it means. Wouldn't we be more insecure if we refused to even give it a try just because we were worried about how it appears?

Also, it's a sport. It requires a :bou::bou::bou::bou:load of skill and it is entertaining to watch for those that can appreciate the level of skill required. Why do you care so much about what other people enjoy doing (professional fighters) or watching (fans)? I hope you're exaggerating, for your sake.

[Moon Rabbits]

So wait... you're criticizing MMA for being "gay" and MMA fans for being "insecure." I don't think that word means what you think it means. Wouldn't we be more insecure if we refused to even give it a try just because we were worried about how it appears?

Also, it's a sport. It requires a :bou::bou::bou::bou:load of skill and it is entertaining to watch for those that can appreciate the level of skill required. Why do you care so much about what other people enjoy doing (professional fighters) or watching (fans)? I hope you're exaggerating, for your sake.

I'm not saying every MMA fan is insecure, I'm referring to the ones who get angry and defensive when I call it out for being soooooooo uber gay.

And I do appreciate the skill involved - I couldn't do it; I wouldn't do it. Hey, I even like watching it sometimes. Still. So. Gay.

[Psychotic]

I only watch MMA because I am secretly a homosexual, but I don't want anyone to see me watching gay porn. This way I can just say "YEAH EXTREME WOO!" and hi-five my brosephs while getting stealthily turned on.

[Madame Adequate]

I watch MMA because it makes me imagine that I can join the Sacred Band of Thebes :cry:

[Garland]

I liked the early UFC when it addressed the age old question of, "Who would win if a karate guy and a jujitsu guy got in a fight?" where karate and jujitsu can be any two styles. I don't like it now. Now everyone is the same. They've evolved not to be better fighters, but to be better UFC'ers. I suppose it's only natural. Everyone is a hybrid striker and grappler. I like variety. Eating an apple, a banana, a grape, and then eating an orange doesn't get old. Eating four identical fruit salads does. I wish mixed martial arts referred to the matchups, and not the style of the combattants.

[DK]

The New Lightweight champion of the UFC. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md_8WJzhsow)

You heard it here first. Diego by force choke in the 1st round. WAR NIGHTMARE!

[NeoCracker]

The New Lightweight champion of the UFC. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md_8WJzhsow)

You heard it here first. Diego by force choke in the 1st round. WAR NIGHTMARE!

...What the fucking hell was that? :confused:

[Raistlin]

I think that was... a celebration move. Apparently he's jealous of GSP having the only gimmick (even if he doesn't fully land the backflip most of the time).

I want to see him do that in the octagon after a match and accidentally knock someone out with his flailing feet.

[DK]

It was clearly the yes cartwheel. and it was clearly genius.

YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!

i fucking love diego

[NeoCracker]

And yet those answers do nothing to alleviate the confusion...

However he is now my favorite.

[Psychotic]

DIEGO FOR PRESIDENTE

[Kyros]

If Diego loses tonight UFC has a serious problem with their lw division imo. They need someone to contend with Penn, and atm Diego's the only one they have. They also have the problem of their fighters keep getting injured and have to keep pulling out of fights, which is why other than this they havent been able to announce title fights for forever now. Strikeforce is getting an overwhelming amount of talent, but they have the problem of finding ways to pay these fightings (another story for another day I guess). Anyway, regarding tonight's main card:

I hope Sanchez wins
Kongo breaks Mir's jaw to shut him up for a while
GO FITCH PLEASE FINISH THIS ONE
picking Florian but like both him and Guida
calling Struve by submission

Even though UFC hasnt had a title fight in a while their cards have been pretty good lately. Hopefully this one wont disappoint, and I highly doubt that it will :)

[Psychotic]

Well that sucked. :(

[Raistlin]

Yeah the main event fights were disappointing, especially Kongo lasting all of 20 seconds. But Florian v. Guida was exciting; Guida looked like he had five gallons of blood dumped on him.

[DK]

Florian/Guida would have been good apart from the bit where Florian won, which is one of the most depressing occurances in MMA. Dude is a giant twat.

Every fighter I wanted to win lost last night, only thing I enjoyed about the entire evening was Belcher coming out in pink shorts and with redneck cornrows. Being manhandled by Sexyama did good things to him.

Other than that, night to forget. Diego :(

[Raistlin]

I finally got around to watching 108. Evans is great at winning points and doing sod all else. The last two minutes were fairly entertaining, but Silva seemed more intent on showboating than actually trying to win, which may have lost him the match since Evans seemed pretty out of it.

Oh well, there were some exciting knockouts/submissions in the earlier fights. I had never even heard of a reverse triangle before.

[KentaRawr!]

Something I'm late to saying, as someone who began studying Jiu-Jitsu fairly recently, is that when you can roll around with sweaty men of all shapes and sizes striving to reach "mount position", pushing their arms against your crotch so hard it'll break their arms, and all the while deny being gay...

That is truly when you appreciate something for what it is rather than its outward appearance!

[Raistlin]

People act like the close contact of MMA is some new revolution of professional fighting or something equally ridiculous, but wrestling has been around for centuries and exclusively involves grappling.

[KentaRawr!]

I have to admit, it does come off as very modern. Perhaps it's because it's been with us for so long that it can seem so new. :p

[DK]

Hahaha Paulo Thiago learned One Trick.

Nate the Great :(

[Raistlin]

So I watched 109. Some of my thoughts while I was watching it:

I enjoyed watching Frank Trigg get beat down (again). Has he won a fight, ever? I only see him losing, at least since he lost twice against Matt Hughes way back when.

I don't think I've ever before heard of the choke Thiago used.

Wow, I don't think I've ever seen someone bleed so much from one strike. Chael's nose turned Nate Marquardt red. Nate made the ending interesting, but the rest of the fight still dominated by Sonnen.

45 and 46? Jesus, get these geezers some walkers or something. Coleman even looks ancient. And then Randy does his usual routine of standing up by the cage and I fell asleep. And then he finishes it in the second round because Coleman was worn out from missing his nap. "This is the best Randy has ever looked striking?" Seriously? If he had some legit competition he might have to actually work for those punches. Terrible main event. Are we going to get a good one anytime soon?

[DK]

Terrible main event. Are we going to get a good one anytime soon?

UFC 110: Nogueira vs. Velasquez

UFC 111: St-Pierre vs. Hardy

UFC Fight Night: Florian vs. Gomi

UFC 112: was supposed to be Anderson vs Vitor but Vitor got crocked. Apparently now it is going to be Anderson vs Damian Maia which I can only assume is going to end horribly for Maia, but it should be entertaining.

UFC 113: Machida vs. Shogun 2

And those are just the main events. 110 is a Pride fans wet dream, with Cro Cop vs Ben Rothwell and Wandy vs Bisping both on the card, 111 also has the Mir vs Carwin scheduled for the Heavyweight interim belt, 112 has BJ defending against Edgar and Matt Hughes vs Renzo Gracie and as for 113, Machida vs Shogun could make the entire card for me. Looks like they'll slot Semtex vs Koscheck on that card as well which would be sweet. 114 rumoured to have Rampage vs Rashad and Griffin vs Lil Nog as well. Loads of good matchups that i've glossed over as well. 109 was the last dross event, every card from now until at least June looks to be stacked, barring injuries. Good times ahead.


I don't think I've ever before heard of the choke Thiago used

Finished him with a D'arce choke didn't he? Fairly certain Big Nog had one on Randy in their fight at 102. Is a sweet looking choke.

[Raistlin]

109 was the last dross event, every card from now until at least June looks to be stacked, barring injuries. Good times ahead.

Yeah, that lineup looks awesome. I'm looking forward to them! Some of the recent UFCs have been very "meh."


Finished him with a D'arce choke didn't he? Fairly certain Big Nog had one on Randy in their fight at 102. Is a sweet looking choke.

Yep. I don't think I'd ever seen it before, but it is a sweet looking choke. Thiago put Swick to sleep in like 5 seconds.

[DK]

One Trick looks horrible at Welterweight though, he is cutting far too much and should move back up to MW. not that I particularly care I think he is an overrated turd, but he's not going to cut it at WW in the UFC. Top level guys will eat him.

Thiago is looking great every time I see him though, starting to become a fan of his. Hope he gets the next shot at GSP after Hardy (love Dan Hardy and would love him to cane GSP but...nah.)

[DK]

Double post but it's everyone elses fault for not posting anything.

110 this saturday, severely pumped for it, don't think i've been this excited for a fight card before. Loads of my favourites, loads of legends, great matchups, should be a cracking evening.

anyway I fancy getting some predicitions on the go for these events, should be a laugh (between me, Paul and Raisin most likely but w/e). Won't bother with the prelims, only the main card, just a bit of fun. I'll go first:

This card is going to be god damn awesome don't care what anyone tries to tell me otherwise.

For mine:

Big Nog vs Velasquez: I will never bet against Big Nog. Probably biased because he's by far my favourite fighter, but I don't think Cain is going to lay on enough of a beating to put the man away, his head is made of granite. Don't know what round it'll be in but at some point Velasquez is taking Nog down, going for G'n'P and leaving himself open,so I'm taking Big Nog via armbar from the bottom.

Wanderlei vs Bisping: This definitely has the potential to be FotN, although it'll depend highly on how Bisping goes for it imho. If Wandy catches him early with a flush shot I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him retreat into his shell and start jogging around the cage like he did against Hendo until he gets sparked. On the other hand Wandy is older now and in dire form, and has a layoff from surgery. God knows how he's going to perform, especially coming down to 185. That said I'd probably like nothing more than to see him come storming back to form and godzilla walk all over Bispings face, love Wanderlei so much, probably second favourite guy after Big Nog. Hard one to call though, could go either way for mine. I think the longer this fight lasts the better it plays out for Bisping, his pace and style will eventually overwhelm Wandy if the fight drags out. If Wandy is going to win it is going to be fast and it's going to be brutal imho. Heart is telling me that Bisping will be too much for Wandy and get the TKO victory late in the second but, it's a coin toss.

Joe asshat Stevenson vs George Sotiropoulos: Half looking forward to this fight and half not. Love Sotiropoulos watching his ground work is always amazing, but he's going up against probably the stiffest test of his Career right now. His BJJ is great but I don't think he has the power in his boxing (though it is crisp and technically sound by MMA standards) or takedowns to put Stevenson on his back. Can't stand Stevenson either he is a complete turd, would love to see him get wasted by George but can't see it happening personally. Joe Stevenson to top control his way to a UD. Prove me wrong George.

Keith Jardine vs Ryan Bader: Should be a decent fight, good test for Ryan Bader against one of the LHW's foremost gatekeepers. I honesly don't see Bader fucking about much in this one, so far in his career he's pretty much stuck with what brought him to the dance and I don't see that changing much. Don't think much of Jardine either personally. Darth Bader to stick with his wrestling base, take him down, wear him out and then pound him down late in the first.

Cro Cop vs Ben Rothwell: Looking forward to this one actually. Every man and his dog has been banging on about CC being done, old, washed up etc and laying out the game plan to beat him, circle away from the head kick and out box him. Personally, can't see Rothwell being the type to implement a gameplan, especially after his last fight with Velasquez, I'm expecting him to underrate CC and come out aggressively. Cro Cop wins this via crater to the skull and the MMA community to collectively jizz its pants.

WAR BIG NOG! WAR WANDERLEI!

[Psychotic]

Cain Velasquez will smash Big Nog to a pulp. He is a really tough fighter who can defeat many men, and Big Nog is just a lump of cheese who is there for the taking. It's an easy one to pick.

Wanderlei Silva will defeat Michael Bisping because Michael Bisping is basically just a northern chimp. Representing the UK my arse. I want to see Semtex or Hardy fight him. Although I hope he wins just so I can see his failure son come into the Octagon and start kicking the air again.

George Sotiropoulos because I am never, ever, ever, picking Joe smurfing Daddy to win anything other than "World's Biggest Cockgobbler".

Ryan Bader will dick Jardine. You'll see.

Cro Cop will launch that big fat redneck all the way to Nebraska as far as I am concerned.

[Raistlin]

Big Nog vs Velasquez: Sorry, Dan, I gotta go with Psy on this one; I like Velasquez in this fight.

Wanderlei vs Bisping: I really don't like Bisping. He has some good skills, but if Silva can tag him early, I think he'll have a tough time catching up.

Joe Stevenson vs George Sotiropoulos: I've liked George when I've seen him fight, so I'll go with him.

Keith Jardine vs Ryan Bader: Keith Jardine is a pirate and you can never bet against pirates.

Cro Cop vs Ben Rothwell: Rothwell is new to the UFC so I haven't seen much from him, but he got beat by Velasquez, so I'll bet for the same to happen against Cro Cop.

[Psychotic]

My predictions = :cool:

[Raistlin]

My thoughts on 110:

Did Perosh land a single punch? That was 2 rounds of utter ass-kicking by Cro Cop.

Oh, Jardine. You don't seem to win much, but you are still a crazy pirate to me!

Sotiropoulos had an excellent ground game and really took it to Stevenson, though it was a bit more even after a dominant first round.

Silva v. Bisping was real close, but I agreed entirely with the judges, 29-28 Silva (Bisping narrowly winning the first round). The 3rd round was absolutely dead-even until the last 10 seconds, when Silva stole it away.

Velasquez has some power. Big Nog = lights out.

[Psychotic]

HA HA HA

FRANK MIR

HA HA HA

that is all.

[doeboyfresh14]

HA HA HA

FRANK MIR

HA HA HA

that is all.

That ref was a joke. Mir was out before he hit the ground. I don't understand why he made carwin continue to pound on him. He was clearly out.

and the St. Pierre vs Harden match was a snore fest. but you have to give harden credit for his heart. He would have broken his arm before he tapped out. And him messing with bruce buffer in the begining was hilarious.

[DK]

Frank Mir getting his head caved in by a giant wrestler again was one of the best things I have ever seen, afaic the ref is a hero for letting him get pounded so long because he's an awful :bou::bou::bou::bou: and a terrible person. I also loved that Carwin basically won with Tekken wall-hit spam, held him up against the cage and just tapped the weak attack buttons until he decided to waste him, sheer genius.

St. Pierre vs Hardy was awesome, GSP's takedowns, transitions and sub attempts were all awesome, and Dan Hardy must have nads the size of watermelons that were carved out of granite and grafted onto him as a baby to last the distance in that fight. It was a shame he landed like zero offence but he ain't been the first and probably won't be the last to do so against GSP. My only problem with his performance was that he never really threw caution to the wind, I know he is primarly a counter puncher but after the first three rounds he would have had to know that a stoppage was the only way he could win the fight, and especially considering his lack of giving a smurf about nearly having his limbs wrecked I would have liked to see him just say smurf it and go ape:bou::bou::bou::bou: with his strikes. Especially in the last round when his corner gave him stupid advice, I would have been telling him to throw elbows like a madman from standing, top and bottom positions and try and cut GSP up. Fight came a bit too soon for him anyway, he'll only improve from here. Want to see him against Kampmann or Thiago Alves next, then after that if he wins Kos/Fitch.

Rest of the card was pretty :bou::bou::bou::bou:, quite disappointing. Gutted Thiago Alves had to pull out, would have loved to see him tool Fitch.

[Raistlin]

Thoughts on 111:

Miller won? Really? Bocek definitely won round 2, and while I did think 1 and 3 were pretty much toss-ups, I was not expecting both to go to Miller.

Pellegrino’s slam from being choked was great. And he’s Batman.

Carwin beat the crap out of Mir, which made my night. I don’t know anything about Carwin, but I don’t like Mir.

How the fuck did Hardy survive that armbar in the first round? It looked like GSP was about to let go after a couple of seconds because everyone taps out then.

Jesus Christ, does Dan Hardy even feel pain? GSP just yanking his arm behind his back for like 20 seconds. Give Hardy a drug test after this fight. I guess GSP might have been doing something technically wrong and not sinking it right, but still. It just put off the inevitable, though; GSP is ridiculous.

[DK]

Yeah me and J both had Bocek winning, was surprised that Miller won that one.

Also no, Hardy just has giant gonads. He's never been finished in his entire career so I would say he's just a tough son of a bitch. I thought his arm was totally broken though it was sick when it popped and twisted round, but fair play to the man. Can't wait to see him in the future.

Also, GSP really needs to move up to MW. He's killed everyone at WW and there is no one on the planet at that weight that will ever be able to touch him. Seeing him go up to MW against bigger and stronger guys will be the real test of his skill, if he can still out wrestle and dominate guys at MW then I think he would have to go down as the GOAT for sure.

[DK]

112 had all the potential in the world to be awesome but turned out to be quite dire. Gutted that Belfort was injured, would have been way better than the horse :bou::bou::bou::bou: we got with Silva and Maia. Seeing BJ Penn lose the title was pretty funny though, he didn't turn up at all last night. Phil Davis Anaconda choke was nice, probably the best thing about the night.

[Mirage]

Yeah, Silva should have been warned for that crap way earlier than he did :p.

[Shiny]

I was also told to get UFC Undisputed and I'm still not convinced it's worth the time. But, I do like me some fighting games.

[DK]

Undisputed is probably the most fun fighting game I've ever played in my life, if they make some big improvements in the next installment which is coming out very soon then it's definitely worth picking up

[Slothy]

Yeah, Silva should have been warned for that crap way earlier than he did :p.

You know, as much as Silva wasn't pressing the fight, that's his style and he's not the only one who wasn't pushing the offense the whole time. Could he have gone in and ended it quick? Probably, but he doesn't generally fight that way and there's no reason he should press the fight if he doesn't feel he has to to win. Unless you're talking about him basically taunting Maia, but I could care less about that; psyching out your opponent goes with the territory.

In the end though, if fans want more action in his fights then they should probably be asking why Dana White didn't give him an opponent that could provide a challenge, because Maia wasn't even close to being in Silva's league. It's not like it's the first time it's happened either.

[Crop]

Yeah, Silva should have been warned for that crap way earlier than he did :p.

You know, as much as Silva wasn't pressing the fight, that's his style and he's not the only one who wasn't pushing the offense the whole time. Could he have gone in and ended it quick? Probably, but he doesn't generally fight that way and there's no reason he should press the fight if he doesn't feel he has to to win. Unless you're talking about him basically taunting Maia, but I could care less about that; psyching out your opponent goes with the territory.

In the end though, if fans want more action in his fights then they should probably be asking why Dana White didn't give him an opponent that could provide a challenge, because Maia wasn't even close to being in Silva's league. It's not like it's the first time it's happened either.

I disagree. There's taunting, and then there's what he did. It was pretty much just him sidestepping the whole time.
To be fair to Maia, he did try to go on the offense in the last round, but as usual, Silva just dodged it and carried on sidestepping. It was a terrible fight, and I have no respect for Silva after that over the top taunting that went on for the whole fight.

[Slothy]

I disagree. There's taunting, and then there's what he did. It was pretty much just him sidestepping the whole time.
To be fair to Maia, he did try to go on the offense in the last round, but as usual, Silva just dodged it and carried on sidestepping. It was a terrible fight, and I have no respect for Silva after that over the top taunting that went on for the whole fight.

There's nothing wrong with getting out of the way of an opponents attack. For the record, pretty much every time Maia came in, Silva got out of the way and struck back with some good shots, and then Maia would get scared and back off because Silva was just plain faster and better. It wasn't until the last round that desperation set in, Maia actually seemed to knock Silva off balance, but as soon as he recovered Maia backed off completely again. If you want to blame anyone for the slow fight you have to blame both of them. Because Silva had clearly won by the end of the third. The only chance Maia had was to finish the fight and he did nothing.

It only takes one person to push the fight, but it takes two to stand there staring at each other.

[Raistlin]

Silva vs. Maia was a terrible fight, and Silva does carry a good portion of the blame. He pushed the fight at various points early on, but at some point in the second round spent most of the round simply taunting and urging his opponent to come at him. I don't really see how he could be punished or even warned by the UFC for it, but it is annoying to watch. I am glad the crowd started booing him.

Other thoughts on 112:

What a strong comeback for Munoz, after getting his ass kicked in round 1.

The first two rounds of Hughes vs. Gracie were godawful boring. Round 3 picked up, but I don’t know wtf Hughes was thinking continually backing off. The match should have been over two minutes earlier.

I like how the replays between rounds of Edgar vs. Penn only show hits by Penn; this was especially blatant after round 4 when Penn only contacted with literally two punches and Edgar otherwise controlled it. I have it Edgar definitively winning the last two rounds, probably the third round, and the others close. I thought Edgar deserved it, but was surprised by him actually winning it; I did not expect the judges to give away Penn’s title without more.

Outside of Penn losing his title, 112 was not as enjoyable as I was expecting.

[DK]

JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED

THE MACHIDA ERROR HAS BEEN CORRECTED

WAR. FUCKING. SHOGUN.

[DK]

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3:35 minutes

[Raistlin]

That was an exciting UFC! Not only did Shogun definitively stomp on Machida, but the earlier fights were entertaining as well. Koscheck v. Daley was the only kind of boring fight, but even that was livened up by Koscheck being a douchebag and Daley's cheap shot after the fight.

[Raistlin]

Entertaining UFC 114, though Rashad Evans won so we'll have to see him again. I was cheering Brilz on for the huge upset, and while the fans chanted "bull:bou::bou::bou::bou:," I think the first round was too close to say for sure either way (round 2 definitely Brilz, round 3 definitely Nog).

Duffee vs. Russow was crazy. Duffee lands about 80 punches, and only the second or third punch Russow manages to land, well into the 3rd round... and lights out. Wow.

[DK]

Rampage looked like :bou::bou::bou::bou:, I was horribly distraught about the whole thing. Though, a bit confused as to why he refused to push on and turn Rashad's lights out when he had him wobbled, second time in two fights Rashad has been let off the hook by an opponent (thought to be fair, Thiago Silva was gassed to hell when he had him rocked, Rampage doesn't have that excuse). Very disappointing after all the hype, hope 'Page gets his head back in the game and comes back strong. If he gets back in the cage soon, I feel sorry for whoever his next opponent is.

Diego getting smashed up by Hathaway was a surprise, but fair play to Hathaway put on a good performance.

Lil Nog vs Brilz was a sick fight, I scored it for Brilz but wasn't disappointed to see Nog pull out the victory. Massive credit to Brilz for his performance on short notice and the way he conducted himself afterwards, must have won himself huge amount of fans.

Bisping vs Miller was a pretty boring fight, the Counts pillowfists not doing a whole lot and Miller inexplicably refusing to take it to the ground, no idea what that was all about.

And yeah Duffee/Russow was hilariously crazy. have never seen anything so random in my entire life, awesome turnaround shot. That's the beauty of the Heavyweight division though, a KO can come from absolutely anywhere at that size.

Overall yeah I thought it was an entertaining night of fights, but the results weren't how I would have preferred them.

115 is going to be a joke card, Ace is going to retire Liddell. Cro Cop is always worth tuning in for though, and I'm pretty hyped to see how Paulo Thiago goes against Kampmann, rate him quite a lot and if he gets past Kampmann he should be right up there for a shot at GSP. No idea how Koscheck deserves a title shot over Thiago, at the very least pubehead should have had to rematch Thiago before getting GSP. Until the AKA welterweight bumlove trio Swick, Koscheck and Fitch man up and fight each other none of them should get a shot at the belt anyway, bunch of ponces. Other than that nothing on the card really interests me.

[Raistlin]

UFC 115 was last weekend. I watched it yesterday, so let's see how much detail I remember.

Condit v. MacDonald was crazy. I know MacDonald was getting the crap beat out of him, but I'm not sure how you can stop that fight with less than 10 seconds left without a full KO.

Go Cro Cop! I enjoy watching him kick ass.

The announcers were saying Chuck Liddell is done for good... 2 minutes after saying he was the best they'd seen him. Wtf? Still, Franklin knocking him out with a potentially broken left arm was great.

[Mirage]

I doubt it's the last we see of Liddell, anyway. It's not like he's the oldest fighter to have fought in the UFC :p. Randy Couture is what, 45? He still won his last two fights.

[DK]

Still haven't watched the whole PPV yet, Cro Cop had me in raptures though. Loved the entire fight, loved the hug, loved the repeated head kicks, loved the flurry of Combos that put Barry on his ass, loved the campaigning for the sub of the night bonus (tax free, of course). Was awesome.

Liddell vs Ace was awesome as well, great fight, especially considering Ace's broken arm. What a legendary hero he is. But to be fare to Goldie and Rogan, Chuck WAS looking miles better than he has in his last 5 fights until he got sparked. It's just the fact that he got completely wasted with what looked to be a fairly innocuous punch that means he's done. Doesn't matter how much better his offense is looking, his chin is completely gone and there's nothing he can do about that. For his sake it should be his last fight, can't compare him to Couture because they've had completely different career paths and fought completely different styles. Chuck relies too much on his reflexes and chin to get him by in fights, his actual defence is pretty poor, and both of those are shot to hell. He can't hack it anymore and they shouldn't let him fight again.

[DK]

Holy :bou::bou::bou::bou:. Hooooooly :bou::bou::bou::bou:. That was one of the best nights of fights I've seen in a long time. Crazy good fun to watch!

Gotta start with Brock, man, so much respect for him right now, I thought he was dead and buried, you could see straight away from the first punch that he did not like Carwins power at all. And the relentless ground and pound, for like 4 minutes of the first round, just to survive that alone is insane. The choke out victory was hilariously awesome as well.

Sexyama/Leben was an awesome fight, but like I thought Sexyama paid the price for standing in front of Leben and exchanging with him, came off worse and gassed because of it. I really wanted him to win that fight, but how can you not love Leben? two weeks after taking out highly rated Aaron Simpson, he steps up to take on and take out Akiyama? with a TRIANGLE CHOKE? And those double punches he was doing to his head, my god I was dying. In raptures. And then he called out Wanderlei. The whole fight was awesome as well, just two guys absolutely refusing to go down. Beautiful.

Lytle vs Brown was good as well, lots of mixed action on the feet and on the floor, and we got to see some nice stuff from Lytle, the whole triangle mount/armbar combination was really cool to see.

Polish Experiment vs Bonnar was a crazy fight as well, Bonnar is a god damn madman who is going to have brain damage in about 5 years if he keeps going on the way he is, but again it was just two guys throwing everything they had and leaving it all in the cage, back and forth action. Sweet as hell.

Finally, was stoked again for George Sotiropoulos, another great performance from him, showing off his classy BJJ skills. I just wish, wish, wish he had power in his hands, he's so damn featherfisted. If he had the power he'd be an absolute monster. Still, love him and his style and it was great to watch.

God I'm so hyped now. That was AWESOME

[Psychotic]

Brock Lesnar is a fucking titan. A troll. A golem. Something. I don't know.

[Crop]

Firstly, that was the greatest UFC I've seen, man that was some hot :bou::bou::bou::bou:. I wasn't too happy with the results of the Lesnar & Akiyama fights, but they were awsome to watch.

I actually thought Akiyama did well standing up against Leben, and watching those two duke it out blow for blow in the second round was the greatest thing ever.
I also didn't think Lesnar was so hot tbh. Put up against an opponent that was used to being in more than one round and I think he would have been out. It'll be interesting seeing his next fight.

[Raistlin]

That was an absolutely crazy UFC. Krzystof vs. Bonnar was a fucking Rocky fight; they just stood there and beat the :bou::bou::bou::bou: out of each other. Akiyama vs. Leben was great as well, and Leben's face must be made out of some sort of granite.

Finally, Brock Lesnar must have some mystical voodoo working to keep him alive, because he was dead that first round. He just lay there getting his face smashed in for a good 3 minutes in the most easily scored 10-8 round in the history of the UFC, and then comes back smiling in the second round and closes it out quickly. What the fuck.

[Slothy]

Finally, Brock Lesnar must have some mystical voodoo working to keep him alive, because he was dead that first round. He just lay there getting his face smashed in for a good 3 minutes in the most easily scored 10-8 round in the history of the UFC, and then comes back smiling in the second round and closes it out quickly. What the smurf.

I was watching that with a friend of mine and we both agreed that it has to be the years of getting hit in the face with steel chairs and the like that let him go into the second round smiling.

[Raistlin]

So I didn't even realize UFC 117 was last week. I lose track of these things.

Goddamn Silva.

[DK]

I completely forgot about this thread too. Probably because 117 was mostly depressing from my point of view. :(

[Raistlin]

It was depressing. Nelson/Dos Santos was entertaining, if only to marvel at the cement in Nelson's head, and Hughes's victory was fairly impressive.

I think it was worse because Sonnen was kicking Silva's ass for all but the last part of the last round. And potentially never intended to tap.

[DK]

Well it was depressing for me because almost all the fighters I wanted to win lost. Was happy Clay Guida pulled one out over Dos Anjos, filthy hook that broke his jaw was good :bou::bou::bou::bou: and nice guts from Dos Anjos to keep going for that long. But I wanted fat Roy to win and he could never get it to the ground which is his best spot, always want Hughes to get smashed and well you saw what happened there, Fitch blanketed his way to another incredibly boring victory which the only positive of is we'll hopefully get to see him get fucked up by GSP again which is pretty much the only entertaining thing he's ever done and then Silva spent most of the fight getting his ass handed to him only to pull out the sub in the dying minutes, by which time I'd had enough and stopped watching the fight :( I was hoping for the true aggro Silva that smashes people in two minutes.

That said was an epic performance by Chael, backed up all his :bou::bou::bou::bou: talk and then some and showed the key to beating Anderson, which isn't wrestling imho (although that is certainly a good weapon) but by disrupting his rhythm from the off. He's got his aura of being an invincible striker which, while definitely true to an extent, I feel gets into the heads of his opponents too much and lets him dictate the pace. I always felt that the best chance of having Anderson would be to press forward constantly, never take a backward step and never let him settle, take his best shots and keep throwing. Sonnen proved that he can be tagged standing this way, and his pillowfists really worked against him. Put someone like Vitor in his place and things become a whole lot more interesting, I think Anderson is absolutely someone who can be knocked out by the right guy. People just need to get over the fear factor and respect him a lot less.

Really really looking forward to 118, hope we get to see a very pissed of Donatello fighting properly rather than whatever he was trying to accomplish last time he fought Edgar, and even though I know it's not likely I am completely on board the war wagon for Toney to smash Coutures face in, god that would be awesome. Hopefully Maynard can beat a hole in Kenny Florians face as well, that would be absolutely beautiful.

[Raistlin]

Was happy Clay Guida pulled one out over Dos Anjos...

Oh yeah, that was definitely a great fight before Dos Anjos had to tap. It looked like Guida was going to pull it out at least with points, though Dos Anjos had been making it interesting by winning the first round. Guida adapted impressively in the second and third rounds.


Fitch blanketed his way to another incredibly boring victory which the only positive of is we'll hopefully get to see him get smurfed up by GSP again which is pretty much the only entertaining thing he's ever done

That was a boring fight. I barely remember it.

UFC should be entertaining. I look forward to the Penn/Edgar rematch. And yeah, someone really needs to put Couture out of his misery.

[escobert]

I heard Couture is going to fight some boxer soon. that should be a funny fight.

[Raistlin]

I finally got around to watching UFC 118 while EoFF was down. It was worth it just to see Penn get dominated every round, and for Edgar to indisputably win.

However, I had to roll my eyes at the Couture vs. Toney fight. Toney is over 40-years-old and not even an MMA fighter. The announcers even admitted it was a foregone conclusion that Couture would dominate. The UFC is now just trying to find old, washed up, ineffective fighters who will be more washed up than Couture so the latter can beat up on them for ratings. Ugh. Why do people still like watching him fight?

[DK]

To be fair to old man Couture, James Toney specifically called him out I think. Not that I want to keep watching the boring old fart fight anyway, but Toney is definitely the one who talked himself into fighting in the UFC, they didn't go looking for him.

Aside from that I've actually forgotten everything else about 118 apart from the fact that Edgar smashed BJ Penn again. Donatello really needs to get out of his :bou::bou::bou::bou: camp at go train somewhere that'll force him to work properly, otherwise he's going to end up wasting all of his talent for good. But yeah 118 was the worst PPV we've had in a good while imho. 119 is next week but I'm not convinced it's going to be all that great either, could be wrong though. Dreading Mir vs Cro Cop, if Mir wins I will be a broken man.

[Raistlin]

So I watched UFC 119 while procrastinating on actual work. For 4/5 going to decision, some of the fights were pretty decent, though I don't understand some of the judges. I can't argue about Guillard winning, but the judge who apparently scored the last round for Guillard is a moron; that is the only round that wasn't very close, and Stephens clearly won it. I also disagree with the 29-28 Sherk decision; Sherk won round 1, Dunham clearly won round 3, and I think Dunham did the most damage in round 2.

But then of course what little enjoyment I had in UFC 119 was dashed when Frank Mir won. :(

[DK]

My friend came down earlier this week to visit for my birthday and we've been hanging out, so I completely forgot that the UFC event was on. pretty stoked about it though, as after reading the report it sounded like a total dross event. Cro Cop :(

120 is going to be hilarious I think. Hope Dan Hardy wins, and hope Sexyama breaks every bone in Bispings body.

[Raistlin]

Just watched 120, and it kind of bored me. Hardy-Condit was interesting, but unfortunately Hardy got KO'd. Awesome Rocky moment punch, though, with Hardy and Condit simultaneously connecting on opposing hooks. Condit staggered, Hardy crumbled.

Regarding Bisping-Akiyama, disappointed Bisping won. But what was up with the ref moving in but then deciding not to stop the fight after a groin-hit on Akiyama? Home field advantage for Bisping?

[DK]

Was an awful night for me, nothing went as I hoped it would. The only highlight was the post-fight interview with Dan Hardy, "What went wrong tonight?" "I got punched in the face." Man is a legend and I hope he comes back strong next year. Sick KO from Condit though, have to give him his props.

Also yeah that ref was a bit crazy all night, he did not like having any breaks in the action at all. Bisping is a diabolical human being as well, of all people to do it to he gives Sexyama the worst nut shot of all time? How dare he :colbert: Hope they give him Marquardt or Okami because they will both smash him to pieces.

God, please let 121 be the epic event it should be. Diego Sanchez vs Paulo Thiago should be an absolute war, gonna be tough choosing who to support because they are both heroes, but think I'll be happier if Diego wins because he needs to get a win back desperately.

[Raistlin]

I watched UFC 121 a few days ago and forgot to comment. Anyway, it was pretty exciting for 4/5 fights going to decision. Of course, the one that didn't was epic with Velasquez absolutely destroying Lesnar. Lesnar won his last title defense, but it also included getting his ass kicked for the entire first round, so I would be really concerned about him ever getting that title back if he doesn't change something dramatically.

Sanchez vs Thiago was another great fight, with Sanchez dominating the latter two rounds. I have to question the judge who scored it 30-26 Sanchez, though, because Thiago won the first round.

Also, since when has John McCarthy been back?

[Roto13]

UFC is gay porn for straight people.

[DK]

I watched UFC 121 a few days ago and forgot to comment. Anyway, it was pretty exciting for 4/5 fights going to decision. Of course, the one that didn't was epic with Velasquez absolutely destroying Lesnar. Lesnar won his last title defense, but it also included getting his ass kicked for the entire first round, so I would be really concerned about him ever getting that title back if he doesn't change something dramatically.

Sanchez vs Thiago was another great fight, with Sanchez dominating the latter two rounds. I have to question the judge who scored it 30-26 Sanchez, though, because Thiago won the first round.

Also, since when has John McCarthy been back?

McCarthy has been back for a few months I think, has been around for a couple of the last events from what I recall.

Thought 121 was fairly dross outside of Sanchez/Thiago and the main event personally. Was so happy when Diego won, love both of these guys and the fight had FotN written all over it as soon as it was signed, but thought Diego needed the win more than Paulo did so yeah I was glad he pulled out the victory. His slam was epic as well.

Then yeah, the main event, jesus christ. I was excited for the fight for a good few weeks before hand and expected it to be crazy, I even commented to Paul right before it began like "this fight is going to be absolutely ridiculous, I'm calling it now", but it absolutely shat on any expectations I had. Was geniunely fantastic, as soon as Lesnar charged out and started throwing knees I was going mad, and then when he launched into the flying knee I lost my :bou::bou::bou::bou:. At that stage everything I was expecting disappeared and I had no clue what was going to happen. Haven't been so into a fight in ages, had so much adrenaline going. Then when Cain started smashing the shiet out of him and took him down, man it was epic. Brock's poncy little pimp slap was hilarious as well. Loved it, was a great great fight. And yeah Brock's got to make some serious changes to his training camp and stuff if he ever wants to seriously challenge as a heavyweight again.

Also in response to Roto, you are totally right, apart from the fact that UFC is a brand name and what you meant to say was MMA. I can't count the times I have rubbed one out watching Randy Couture hug a man to death against the cage and wished it was me, it is the hottest thing on television. uNF

[Raistlin]

Thought 121 was fairly dross outside of Sanchez/Thiago and the main event personally.

Yes, there were two really awesome fights and the rest kinda boring. That's still a solid UFC in my book.

I think Lesnar is too tentative. Or at least he looks almost afraid a lot of the time. I'm not sure if the tentativeness is justified due to him not having the skills of the other guys or whether that itself is a tactical error on his part.


I can't count the times I have rubbed one out watching Randy Couture hug a man to death against the cage and wished it was me, it is the hottest thing on television. uNF

I think Couture must get off on it as well; he does it often enough.

[DK]

I think the biggest problem Lesnar has is that he isn't pushed in training because of his setup, he is the boss at his gym and he makes them train how he wants to train. Which, according to various sources, includes them not being allowed to hit him. There are several reports of him whining in earlier years about getting hit in training, apparently he fired Brett Rogers as a sparring partner because Rogers KHTFO and "hit him too hard", and there was another thing with Tim Sylvia and someone else who I forget who he trained with and moaned about getting hit in standup so he quit. It's highly likely that whenever he does train standup at his gym, he is the one punching and he doesn't spar to get beat up. So he takes getting hit like most untrained people do, by running away and turtling up. Until he mans up and learns how to take a punch (not like he has a bad chin or anything otherwise Carwin would have killed him, he just has never trained to not react badly to getting hit) he will always fail against people who he can't take down at will and gets punched in the face by.

[Raistlin]

Which, according to various sources, includes them not being allowed to hit him.

That has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard about an MMA fighter. No wonder he's gotten his ass kicked lately.

[Raistlin]

So I watched UFC 123. It wasn't too bad. It started out promising, with two submission victories. I always see people going for kimuras, but I haven't seen many win with them.

It went kind of downhill after that. Falcao was exciting for the 2-3 minutes he was active, but for the rest of the fight (80% of the first round and all of the third round), he literally did absolutely nothing. Even Rogan started ragging on him at the end.

I wasn't disappointed to see Penn KO Hughes... but I would've preferred it to be at some point after 4:55 in the first.

I'm kind of surprised Jackson won (and Jackson looked surprised himself). I thought Machida won the first and third rounds. But admittedly the first was close.

[Crop]

So I watched UFC 123. It wasn't too bad. It started out promising, with two submission victories. I always see people going for kimuras, but I haven't seen many win with them.

It went kind of downhill after that. Falcao was exciting for the 2-3 minutes he was active, but for the rest of the fight (80% of the first round and all of the third round), he literally did absolutely nothing. Even Rogan started ragging on him at the end.

I wasn't disappointed to see Penn KO Hughes... but I would've preferred it to be at some point after 4:55 in the first.

I'm kind of surprised Jackson won (and Jackson looked surprised himself). I thought Machida won the first and third rounds. But admittedly the first was close.

Yeah I just watched it too a couple of hours ago. I can't say it was too bad, but that's probably just because I haven't enjoyed the majority of that last few cards anyway.

Falcao was a joke man. That third was terrible, you shouldn't even be allowed to do that I hope he gets a serious slap around the head for his pissing around.

The Penn fight was great, you could see Penn was so hyped up and didn't even have chance to get it all out before he knocked Hughes out xD. I was pretty shocked though, I thought Hughes would do much better.

I hope Jackson and Machida DO have a rematch soon, I felt the Machida won too, but I also think they can have a better fight than that. Aside from the second half of the third rounet, it was pretty poor. Best fight of the night for me was Davis v Botsch.

[DK]

just gonna quote a post in the MMA thread I made at another forum I post at cause cba to go over it again


So stoked with that card, apart from Karo losing which makes me cry, pretty much everything went how I wanted to.

Sotiropoulos looked all class again and I can't believe he's not anywhere in the title mix just yet, he is a complete monster and easily the most entertaining BJJ guy to watch in the UFC imho. Very happy he won, "J-lau" gtfo what an utter ponce. Got teabagged by Sot and deserved it.

Phil Davis is on his way to becoming my favourite fighter, he is a complete hero. His little pink Bret Hart shorts, always working to finish, the Mr. Wonderful sub which was insane, generally all round good guy. Entertaining fight too. Really hope they match him up against Bones Jones at some point would love to see him smash that gimp.

Harris/Random Chute Box guy whose name I forget was random as fuck. Some absolutely sick and insane action mixed with Silva/Maia levels of fuck all. Could have been great, ended up just being strange. No idea why the hell Harris was putting his arms up in the air at the end of the fight, he literally did nothing.

Penn /Hughes was CRAZY! BJ looked like a total nutcase coming out to the ring, and I was expecting a tough battle out of both of them, but he totally killed Hughes, amazing. Never been a huge fan of Matt Hughes either so I was particularly happy to see him get mashed up like that. Be interesting to see where Penn goes from here.

Main event, pretty much went as you would expect although Machida was extremely negative in the first two rounds. I had Page winning 2-1 and was pretty surprised it went to a split decision. First two rounds were close but Page had aggression and octagon control in the first, as well as a few solid blows (his uppercuts were nasty) and the fact that he spent about 3 minutes of the round Couturing Machida up against the cage and stomping on his foot and attacking the legs, thought that round was his. Second was pretty similar stuff part from Page getting the takedown so again that round was Page's. Third was a clear Machida round for mine, but Machida did absolutely jack shiet in the first two so I would have been pretty miffed if he got the nod. Was surprised Rampage thought he lost as well.

Sherdog forums are pretty hilarious with Machida fans screeching about a robbery, though. Especially the ones crying that Machida's leg kicks should have won him the first round and saying shiet like "SINCE WHEN DO LEG KICKS COUNT FOR NOTHING?!" Massive karma laid down for Shogun/Machida 1. Not as if any of Machida's kicks were significant or landed hard either.

But yeah overall very enjoyable card for mine, makes up for a few bad ones we've had recently. Apparently at post-fight press conference Dana White said there won't be a rematch between Page and Machida as well which I approve of. For one because I thought Page won pretty clearly, but also because Machida having 4 fights against 2 guys would be shiet.

[Raistlin]

UFC 124 was entertaining, especially seeing GSP beat up on Koscheck (though it would be nice to see a stoppage from GSP again sometime). I also liked Miller's reverse of Oliveira's attempted leg lock into a leg hold of his own. Also, how the hell did Danzig completely knock out Stevenson with a left hook while backing up?

[Marky Tee]

was quite impressed with new comer john makdessi
solid performance
i know a few serious martial artists that always slag off tae kwon do but seeing it used effectively was great fun to watch

[Mirage]

Well, 124 was the most entertaining UFC I have seen in a while. maybe in part because I am a bit of a GSP fan :p

[DK]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zz3p63WSXZE/TQru0-HFiPI/AAAAAAAAA_E/6Dl9rt2uGuw/s1600/12.gif

Apparently, this guy threw this fucking Jackie Chan matrix kick in the last minute of the 5th round in a title fight that was a tossup as to who was gonna win until the knockdown. Fucking crazy, what a beast and what a way to win a belt.

[Mirage]

Now that's an awesome way to win. Was that in 124? I can't remember it

[Raistlin]

That looks like a WEC octagon.

[Peegee]

I'll be honest. I used to really like UFC (watched the old matches from 1-80+) and then the momentum just died. I think the fights were not exciting, and there's only so much grappling I can watch before I yawn (also internet is more entertaining)

It got to me watching the big matches down to watching it for the gimmicks down to giving up altogether.

But when Fedor Emelianenko started to gain a reputation as an undefeatable (well undefeated) champion except for this one vague right elbow strike which was illegal, I was intrigued. I have downloaded his fights and started watching them.

And I find the grappling fights that last 3-5 rounds are still bloody boring. I guess I'm just griping and ranting so people can remind me why I watched this to begin with?

[DK]

Holy crap man. Was expecting a great card, was generally disappointed with how it turned out (wanted Leben to win, Guida/Gomi wasn't as epic as I hoped it would be, Vera/Silva was...weird. But funny. DHK/Diaz was an interesting ground battle but not a lot happened) and was expecting the main event to be a turd...turns out might have been the fight of the year on the first card of the year haha. What an absolutely amazing fight. Wanted Edgar to win and was distraught in the first, man he got completely fucked up. But what an absolute hero to come back into it the way he did. That massive slam was a thing of beauty. Smashed Maynard with some beautiful shots and combos as well (poor bastard, I wish he was bigger. he would be a beast. Imagine him at Feather/Bantamweight, he would destroy guys.) and turned in two awesome rounds. Last round was incredibly close, I actually thought Maynard had done just about enough in the last round to pull out the victory, but really happy it went to a draw just because Edgar did not deserve to lose for the amount of balls he showed. Great, great fight, and I think there's no way Edgar makes the same mistakes in a rematch and takes a comprehensive victory. Looking forward to it.

[Raistlin]

Holy crap that was an EPIC fight between Edgar and Maynard. Edgar was DESTROYED in the first round, and made one of the biggest comebacks that I've ever seen (to possibly even rival Hughes vs. Trigg 2). That slam in round 2, little Edgar picking up the bigger Maynard, was absolutely glorious.

I don't know what the griping was about; I actually scored the fight 47-47 myself (1: 10-8 Maynard; 3: 10-9 Maynard; and 2, 4, 5: 10-9 Edgar). The last round Edgar had significantly more hits than Maynard, and before the last 10 seconds Maynard basically only had 2 landed punches and several failed takedowns. I agree with the two judges who gave Edgar the last round, though I don't agree with the one who apparently also gave him the 3rd round.

The rest of the UFC was fairly meh. I never expected so much of a Guida fight to be... well, boring.

[sharkythesharkdogg]

Holy crap that was an EPIC fight between Edgar and Maynard. Edgar was DESTROYED in the first round, and made one of the biggest comebacks that I've ever seen (to possibly even rival Hughes vs. Trigg 2). That slam in round 2, little Edgar picking up the bigger Maynard, was absolutely glorious.

I don't know what the griping was about; I actually scored the fight 47-47 myself (1: 10-8 Maynard; 3: 10-9 Maynard; and 2, 4, 5: 10-9 Edgar). The last round Edgar had significantly more hits than Maynard, and before the last 10 seconds Maynard basically only had 2 landed punches and several failed takedowns. I agree with the two judges who gave Edgar the last round, though I don't agree with the one who apparently also gave him the 3rd round.

The rest of the UFC was fairly meh. I never expected so much of a Guida fight to be... well, boring.

That fight was glorious. I really thought Maynard was going to finish. I think a rematch is fair, but it's even less likely Maynard will do anything this time. It's easy to underestimate an opponent when you dominate him the first time. (The last Penn/Hughes fight comes to mind.) Since Maynard about took him down, and Edgar still won it proves to me that Edgar has achieved another level. He'll take a rematch seriously, and his skill set should make him the winner yet again.

[Raistlin]

Goddammit Silva.

So I finally finished watching 126. Except for the Griffin/Franklin fight, it was kinda meh. The first two fights were kinda boring, though the judge who scored the Ellenberger/Rocha fight 30-27 Rocha must've been high the whole time (although the two rounds Ellenberger won were certainly boring).

And then the Silva fight. Silva losing would've made the entire card for me. Alas. It was an impressive KO, though. And did Goldberg really say Silva had a lot of class at the end? Silva?

[DK]

other than Andersons hilarity 126 was wank so cba to comment

what I can be arsed to comment on is Strikeforce, they've been putting out really good shows for the last few months and nothing changed tonight. Awesome show, 5 fights on the main card, 5 finishes, 4 in the first round. Can't complain about that!

said to Paul before the fight that I had a good feeling about Bigfoot Silva and thought he might shock the world tonight but man I did not expect him to win so convincingly. Absolutly beat the :bou::bou::bou::bou: out of Fedor, was hilariously bad. Fedors face was terrible at the end of the fight. Pretty happy for Silva, deserves it and really looking forward to seeing how the Strikeforce tournament turns out now, can't wait for Overeem/Werdum. also can't wait for Sherdog forums to stop being flooded with Fedor Nuthuggers wanting to cry about everything who are killing the servers, so I can laugh at their tears.

[Mirage]

Why isnt there anyone who can beat Silva :/

[Marky Tee]

recorded something that should be quite good tonight
Fight Girls
anyone seen this?

[Psychotic]

RIP Fedor.

"A wizard did it".

[Raistlin]

I finally got around to watching UFC 128. My thoughts:

Big KO from Schaub on Cro Cop. Cro Cop has been very disappointing lately. He is getting too old. :(

Some more stoppages from Miller and Jon Jones. Jones needs to work at his cardio, as it seemed like the only reason Shogun wasn't TKO'd in the first round was Jones backing off and breathing hard. Jones could still hit quick in the third, but he seemed to take every possible moment to take a break. Very disappointing outing by Shogun.

UFC 129 has a GSP match as well as the featherweight championship, so that should be a good night. At least after the snooze fest of another Couture fight, except... oh my, is Couture fighting a real fighter for once?

[DK]

129, other than the utter shietfest of a main event, was a smurfing great event. Multiple german suplexes, backfist KO of utter death, Flying triangle sub from a first round war, nose broken with an elbow, some random half korean Michael Jackson lookalike getting pissed off at a poncy ginger and wrecking him with knees, 40 year old russian wasting a poncy american wrestler poof in 20 seconds, Machida crane kicking Handy into retirement and the 5 round war between Aldo and Hominick that left the canuck with some monsterous growth on his forehead. Was an awesome night up until GSP and Shields.

Machida's karate kid was probably the most hilariously awesome thing i've ever seen, best way for Handy to end his career as well. Quite like Ben Henderson, glad he smashed up that ginger ponce Bocek, hope he goes on to do well in the 155 division in the UFC.

Main event though, so bad, no idea what the smeg Shields was trying to accomplish completely giving up on trying to take the fight into his strongest area, didn't even attempt to pull guard or anything. And I respect GSP a lot, definitely P4P best fighter in the world, but I just don't get what he's trying to accomplish out there sometimes, it seems like he doesn't actually like being a fighter. I'm not sold anymore on the idea that he's a fantastic striker either, he threw literally three strikes for 25 minutes, a jab, the worst overhand right in history and a spinning back kick that he didn't do properly anyway. Apart from the left head kick he threw a couple of times, which actually worked, that's all he did. I get he's gimped ever since Serra smurfed him up, but in his quest to get through fights taking the least damage possible, he's completely lost the ability to strike with any kind of fluidity. Didn't throw a single meaningful combination the entire night, best it got was jab-worst overhand of all time. Especially after watching Aldo and Hominick, who both can put together fantastically varied and smooth combo's, he looked like shiet.

Obv the eye injury affected his performance, but at the same time it goes back to his unwillingness to put himself in danger, because the longer a fight drags on the more likely it'll be he gets caught with something like that, especially when he's not using his wrestling because of his opponents ground game. I'm not even sold on the way he throws his jabs, although it was better than his overhand and back kick. Rumour is that Dana is going to try and set up GSP vs Nick Diaz, and on the evidence of last night, even though he'll be a heavy underdog coming into the fight I would probably feel that Diaz would smash GSP up. Be interesting to see where it goes.

[Raistlin]

Ok, just watched 136, and decided this thread needed to be revived.

WOW. 136 started out entertaining, and the main event made it even more great. Maynard vs. Edgar 2 started out the same (though Maynard did not get a 10-8 this time), and Edgar came back flawlessly. I think Maynard landed all of 3-4 punches for the rest of the fight. And Edgar finished it with a flurry of punches for the TKO! Edgar is just amazing. Loved it.

[sharkythesharkdogg]

I predicted as much after the first fight. Maynard is really good, but Edgar is great.

Which sucks for me because I like Maynard more. Oh well!

[KentaRawr!]

recorded something that should be quite good tonight
Fight Girls
anyone seen this?

I've never been a big fan of female-only competition, to be honest. Not because I have anything against girls, but because I know that even if I enjoy it, somewhere else in the world, someone else is watching it at the same time as me and masturbating to it.

[Raistlin]

Wow, Henderson vs. Shogun was a bloodfest. Henderson beat up on Shogun for the first three rounds, and then Shogun tried to make a comeback. I am disappointed the judges didn't give Shogun a 10-8 for the last round. We had the rest scored the same (Henderson 3-2 for rounds won), and a 10-8 would have made it a tie.

A couple of other good fights earlier on -- Faber vs. Bowles and Silva vs. Le. I liked Cung Le. He lost to Wanderlei Silva in a flurry of punches, but anyone who throws a ton of spin kicks is all right by me. He even rocked Silva with one of his spinning backfist combinations.

[sharkythesharkdogg]

I haven't had a chance to see it, but I was hoping for Cung Le. :( Drat!

Does anyone else want another Dan Henderson/Anderson Silva matc-up?

I think Dan deserves another go.

[Raistlin]

Just watched 140. It is a terrible, horrible crime that Mir won, especially after getting my hopes up for his face getting smashed in (and poor Big Nog's arm). Machida also looked like he could stand with Jones for... one round, and then got choked out while standing up. The 3-second TKO of the first fight was also notable.

It looks like Lesnar is the main bout for 141. Any chance he's gotten over his tendency of folding at the first hint of contact?

[DK]

I specifically did not watch 140, because of what could happen. I am glad now I didn't. If I saw that happen to Big Nog I probably would have commit suicide. Please Uncle Dana make Mir fight Brock after Ubereem kills him so we can see that face on him again. In fact no, Mirs on a 3 fight win streak now. Put him in against JDS. Imagine what JDS would do to Frank Mir normally, let alone after what he's done to Nog. FEED HIM TO JDS NOW

also, Hendo/Shogun, best fight ever. God I love Hendo. and Shogun. Hendo to kill Jones and rid us of the ponce forever. I believe.

[Raistlin]

I heard that JDS is next set for the winner of Brock/Overeem, but watching him go to town on Mir would indeed be glorious.

[Raistlin]

Just watched 141, which had a couple of very quick fights. Lesnar continues to be a big baby, though admittedly Overeem's knees probably would have permanently caved in my ribs. Hendricks had a big KO at 12 seconds, and Gustafsson also won in the first round, making 3 of 5 fights end in round 1. The two fights that went to decision were still good fights with lots of striking.

UFC 142 is in less than two weeks. Jesus, these things go by quickly. I'm looking forward to seeing Edgar again in 144.

[Raistlin]

Dan and Psy need to post more again in this thread. Yes, I'm looking at you chumps.

I just got around to watching UFC 143, and while it did not have the most exciting matchups in terms of the people involved, there were some good fights. No TKOs, but there was lot of standup and a lot of punches thrown. I was mildly impressed with the judges in the Diaz vs. Condit main event, as even though Diaz really pushed the pace in the first 3 rounds, he really wasn't able to do much. Condit really was the one landing hits, and the disparity was especially clear in the last couple of rounds.

I'm looking forward to 144 in a couple of weeks. Edgar vs. Henderson should be a great fight.

[sharkythesharkdogg]

I missed watching the last fight card because a friend bailed on me.


Any thoughts about it from anyone?

[Raistlin]

I just watched 144, and it was exciting. Edgar vs. Henderson was another 5-round brawl. I can't disagree with the decision, but I thought 49-46 (by two of the judges) was too generous. I thought Henderson only clearly won round 2, and even that round I had Edgar winning until the last minute. The rest of the fight was really close.

I really liked Boetsch's 3rd round comeback TKO earlier in the night. It was not "the best comeback in UFC history" like Rogan was screaming, but it was pretty epic.