Basch's Potholder of DOOOM

[auronlu]

This is a totally silly thread.

Just in case you hadn't encountered this page before, I wanted to recommend to you the following essay on...

The Fashion Disaster That is Basch in FFXII (http://xii.venusgospel.net/ff12_basch.html)

I find that page one of the funnier contributions to fandom I've seen in a while.

You'll never see costumes in FFXII -- or any FF game -- quite the same way again.

Battle thongs. I'm tellin' ya.

[Formalhaut]

Thats pretty funny.

Shame they did'nt touch on Vaan. Hes Worse than Basch.

[auronlu]

Vaan just has that weird scarab thing that looks like a Babylon 5 parasite stuck to the base of his spine.

And weird abs.

There's not as much you can do with that as you can potholders and battle wedgies.

[Wolf Kanno]

Basch's outfit never really bothered me. Outside of the questionable outfits worn by the female members of the cast I felt most of the costume designs were pretty good and nothing more bizarre than what came out of FFX....

[Fynn]

Basch's outfit never really bothered me. Outside of the questionable outfits worn by the female members of the cast I felt most of the costume designs were pretty good and nothing more bizarre than what came out of FFX....

I have to agree. I'd wear Basch's potholder shirt over Wakka's stupid overall anytime.

[Big D]

xD Terrific stuff!

Perhaps the most outlandishly impractical FF garb, for me, is Tidus' blitball uniform.

Metal armour? Check. Long wallet chain? Check. Hooded shirt? Check.
With those powers combined, you'd have someone who'd sink like a stone. Even if he could manage to keep afloat, the dopey and useless hood would act like an underwater parachute, to keep him in one place.

Now, I'm all in favour of creative and imaginative character and costume designs - but the FF series really ought to get input from people who understand practicality and combat.

[Jiro]

That was definitely entertaining. But I must agree, his is not the worst of the outfits in the series. Many of them should be useless and difficult to move in, but fantasy laws rule supreme.


Now, I'm all in favour of creative and imaginative character and costume designs - but the FF series really ought to get input from people who understand practicality and combat.

This.

[Quindiana Jones]

To be honest, I think Tidus' boots could've been heavier. :evilking:

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

The festive potholder makes the ensemble, man. It reminds me of all the curious baubles and accessories Amano includes in his designs (but not the dumb, head-slapping ones Nomura includes in his).


Now, I'm all in favour of creative and imaginative character and costume designs - but the FF series really ought to get input from people who understand practicality and combat.

Granted, this was Yoshida's design for Basch when he was still to be the game's main character, before the executive meddling came in:

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e200/grokyou/efuefu/yoshidabaschoriginal.jpg

[Big D]

Phwoar:D There's much more a Vagrant Story-esque feel to that one.

Looking at in-game Basch's potholder, it seems like a piece of padding for that lone spaulder he's got on his left shoulder. Which could make Basch the first-ever FF character to acknowledge the importance of not simply strapping steel plate onto bare skin. I weep for Ashe's arms and legs sometimes...

Though I'm probably a bit spoiled through my experience with historical clothing, armour and combat.

:edit: Apparently this (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/File:AsheBasch-Artwork.jpg) is some of Yoshida's actual artwork for Ashe and Basch. Interesting.

[Jaffer]

Aside from the potholder, I'm suprised he didn't touch on the three belts he has on the inside of his vest. I'd have like to see how exactly that would have worked if he used those belts.

[PeneloRatsbane]

:edit: Apparently this (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/File:AsheBasch-Artwork.jpg) is some of Yoshida's actual artwork for Ashe and Basch. Interesting.


......okay then, Basch with no shirt and Ashe in her pants together frolocking in the water, Now thats a totally appropriate Princess/Knight situation. lol. Can see why she "misses him" now :love:.

[Skyblade]

I really disliked Basch's outfit. The potholder was only part of it, though. The whole thing, including his inability to shave or have even a semi neat hairstyle, was just too untidy. He was a military man for most of his life, wasn't he? Where the heck was his self discipline?

[Quindiana Jones]

I loved Basch's untidy hair. I want it. :(

[PeneloRatsbane]

Where the heck was his self discipline?

how bout being wrongly locked up for three years and being pretty cool and chipper with it and then being greeted by his princess with a nice sturdy slap and not yelling at her.

love Basch

[Wolf Kanno]

To be fair, he does actually shave after the prison break cause he did formally have a beard when he first joined. The stubbled stayed cause its the source of his overwhelming power... :shifty:

[Quindiana Jones]

Let's pretend that it's his way of rebelling against the corrupt official militia. Then, endgame, when he's fixed everything, he goes all proper again because he's happy to wear himself like that and doesn't feel ashamed to be a soldier.

[Jiro]

:edit: Apparently this (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/File:AsheBasch-Artwork.jpg) is some of Yoshida's actual artwork for Ashe and Basch. Interesting.

His pants are gravity defying. Nothing that loose should be able to stay on someone.

[Big D]

The pants look like they've got an internal drawstring. While they're quite a loose fit generally, they're a bit gathered around the waist - most likely from a lace that's holding them on.

It's odd that Ashe looks so bubbly and girly in a lot of the artwork, whereas in the game she's actually got quite a grim, sometimes strained look on her face. I prefer the in-game image because of the extra realism - because of what she's been through, it'd be a tad silly to have her look upbeat and delicate all the time.

[Quindiana Jones]

Wrong, Big D. It's clearly the power of his erection that holds those shorts up.

[Jiro]

Trust you to notice Quin.

[arcanedude34]

It's odd that Ashe looks so bubbly and girly in a lot of the artwork, whereas in the game she's actually got quite a grim, sometimes strained look on her face. I prefer the in-game image because of the extra realism - because of what she's been through, it'd be a tad silly to have her look upbeat and delicate all the time.

Because smiling at any point ever is bubbly and girly? It even seems to be a rather forced, sad kind of smile. Or at least a mature, motherly smile. Just saying.