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Freya
09-14-2009, 07:26 AM
Kanye West Crashes VMA Stage During Taylor Swift's Award Speech - News Story | Music, Celebrity, Artist News | MTV News (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1621389/20090913/west_kanye.jhtml)
Really? I mean I thought it was so uncalled for. Yeah you may have that opinion but you don't need to take away someones moment to promote your own thoughts.
Kanye is a tool. We all know this, but what are your opinions on what he did?
Bunny
09-14-2009, 07:32 AM
He's an egotistical jackass doing egotistical stunts to promote his own agenda and opinions because he wants the attention. He's an attention whore and an idiot.
charliepanayi
09-14-2009, 07:34 AM
Hasn't he done this before? Anyway this is hardly news, Kanye West is a very good musician at his best but as said it's well documented by now that he does have an ego the size of Jupiter.
All very silly, but as they say all publicity is good publicity which is probably why he did it.
Shlup
09-14-2009, 07:35 AM
Hehe, I was waiting for someone to make this thread. I knew someone would.
Kanye West has been this insane for quite some time. I'm not a fan of Taylor Swift, but she seems like a nice girl and picking on her like that was pretty damn mean. Kanye's last award show outburst was even more outrageous, but his victims were able to laugh it off and told him he had to share, while Taylor just stood there looking like she was about to burst into tears.
Beyonce giving up her Best Music Video or whatever speech so Taylor could re-do hers was epically nice of her though. And P!nk tweeting that Kanye is a worthless :bou::bou::bou::bou: or whatever made me lol. And I guess Taylor's mom had words with Kanye. I wish I knew what she said.
...And I can't believe I'm paying this much attention to celebrity bullcrap, but... I do love public drama.
Freya
09-14-2009, 07:38 AM
inb4 south park reference
I mean I'm not surprised by his actions I just think it was a rude thing to do. Did you see poor taylors face? She was just in shock! She was so happy to get the award and then it just came crumbling down cause of that d-bag kanye. He ruined the poor girls night!
The Space Pope
09-14-2009, 07:39 AM
he is a gay fish
no but really he is a douche with terrible music
anything else about him i can't be bothered with
Shlup
09-14-2009, 07:40 AM
Oo, barely made it in there, Lekana. *hi5s Pope*
Miriel
09-14-2009, 07:42 AM
I don't even like Taylor Swift but god damn, she looked so hurt and confused that it made me feel so bad for her. She didn't deserve that. She's 19 years old and it was her first VMA, to have that moment ripped away from her was just awful. It might have been different if Kanye had done it to someone older and more established like Kelly Clarkson or Pink, but Swift must have felt overwhelmed as it is being in a category with heavy weights like Beyonce and to have someone put her on blast and saying she's unworthy in front of millions of people... god, so not cool.
I hear people saying how Kanye was right and Beyonce deserved the award. So? It's not even about whether his opinion was valid or not, it was about how smurfing rude and disrespectful he was in that moment. I seriously believe he's a little mentally unbalanced. I'm not sure someone who is all there in the head would get so wildly upset about something like a video music award. Especially for a category he wasn't even nominated in! Calm down, Kanye West!
CimminyCricket
09-14-2009, 08:09 AM
I felt bad watching my future wife be embarrassed like that.
Also: I know what Kanye West looks like now, but who is he?
Kawaii Ryűkishi
09-14-2009, 09:03 AM
Also: I know what Kanye West looks like now, but who is he?
Kanye West is one of the most talented and artistic rappers and musicians of our time. Unfortunately, like all artists, he is also troubled. As he wrote last April:
I ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON MY EGO THOUGH. HAVING THE CRAZY EGO IS PLAYED OUT AT THIS POINT IN MY LIFE AND CAREER. I USE TO USE IT TO BUILD UP MY ESTEEM WHEN NOBODY BELIEVED IN ME. NOW THAT PEOPLE DO BELIEVE AND SUPPORT MY MUSIC AND PRODUCTS THE BEST RESPONSE IS THANK YOU INSTEAD OF "I TOLD YOU SO!!!" IT'S COOL TO TALK :bou::bou::bou::bou: WHEN YOU'RE RAPPING BUT NOT IN REAL LIFE. WHEN YOU MEET LITTLE WAYNE IN PERSON HE'S THE NICEST GUY FOR EXAMPLE. I JUST WANNA BE A DOPER PERSON WHICH STARTS WITH ME NOT ALWAYS TELLING PEOPLE HOW DOPE I THINK I AM. I NEED TO JUST GET PAST MYSELF. DROP THE BRAVADO AND JUST MAKE DOPE PRODUCT. EVERYTHING IS NOT THAT SERIOUS. AS LONG AS PEOPLE THINK I ACT LIKE A BITCH THIS TYPE OF :bou::bou::bou::bou: WILL HAPPEN TO ME. I GOT A LONG ROAD AHEAD OF ME TO MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE I'M NOT ACTUALLY A HUGE DOUCHE BUT I'M UP FOR THE CHALLENGE.
I hope the reaction to this latest news will encourage Mr. West to continue to strive to become a doper person.
Araciel
09-14-2009, 09:26 AM
lololol Kanye west is egotistical enough to prompt someone to make a thread about it on Eoff. THE POWER OF BEING AN ASSHOLE muhahaha
Breine
09-14-2009, 09:59 AM
Haven't seen the VMAs yet, so I went to YouTube to see the clip and damn do I feel bad for poor Taylor Swift.
I'm not a fan of Swift either, but she still won the award and that was her moment. That look on her face really makes me feel sorry for her. Kanye deserved all the booing he apparently got the rest of the evening, and it really was nice of Beyonce to let Swift give her acceptance speech once more.
But yeah, Kanye is an idiot and needs to get his head out of his ass.
Shattered Dreamer
09-14-2009, 12:53 PM
You know I really thought it was not possible for Kanye West to be a bigger egomaniac a$$wipe then he already is but he managed it with this stunt. Voice of a generation my a$$ he's not even that talented. 90% of his hit singles feature sampling of other great songs eg. Stronger featured heavy sampling of the Daft Punk song Harder,Better Faster, Stronger. Sampling does not take talent just basic computing skills. As a musician I'm highly critical of sampling its basically piggybacking on other musicians talents. I'm not looking to argue this point on sampling by the way I can't be swayed.
I'm not Taylor Swift's biggest fan but she's a talented performer & very good at what she does. She's not 20 until December & she's already a millionaire! But apart from the talent part another major difference between her & Kanye is modesty a quality he's lacking in spades. Kanye West needs to pull his head out of his a$$ before he disappears up it.
Tavrobel
09-14-2009, 02:22 PM
I think people would be less upset with him if the video he referenced as being top tier didn't actually suck.
Psychotic
09-14-2009, 02:35 PM
I'm disappointed in Kanye because I think he could've taken it a bit further. Like, he could've slugged Taylor Swift in the jaw, stole her award, and declared himself Emperor of the Universe.
Kawaii Ryűkishi
09-14-2009, 02:37 PM
90% of his hit singles feature sampling of other great songs eg. Stronger featured heavy sampling of the Daft Punk song Harder,Better Faster, Stronger. Sampling does not take talent just basic computing skills. As a musician I'm highly critical of sampling its basically piggybacking on other musicians talents. I'm not looking to argue this point on sampling by the way I can't be swayed.
Guess I'll just say that I patently disagree, then.
Madame Adequate
09-14-2009, 02:59 PM
As a Cracked.com article once asked: What if Kanye West is actually as retarded as he acts?
I would have maaaybe laughed if it was any other celebrity, but Taylor Swift is one of the only nice-seeming people in Hollywood, and she had no retort, she was just practically slumped over and teary. I mean, I thought it was another staged thing, except her face was like so ";___; nooo"
Beyonce proved she's pretty cool, though, once again.
Dante WolfWood
09-14-2009, 03:05 PM
guess my post was aliitle much :p sorry I just can't stand this guy.
why does he have to be so egotistical? and the said thing is, he has so many people backing him as fans which allows him to get off with what he does. if some random person would have ran up and did that, they be in jail or atleast thrown out
Momiji
09-14-2009, 03:28 PM
I don't like Taylor Swift's music, but Kanye went too far, as usual. Egotistical fishstick lover.
I will admit that the confused look that Taylor had was beyond cute, though. :shifty:
LunarWeaver
09-14-2009, 03:44 PM
Kanye is a weird goose to be sure.
We should talk cooler VMA stuff. Like Janet performing Scream for the first time ever and doing the dancebreak with her brother on a screen. Hot :bou::bou::bou::bou:.
scrumpleberry
09-14-2009, 04:50 PM
Taylor Swift's music and bitchface annoy the hell out of me, but she seems like a really nice person. Kanye is a total dick who will get his comeuppance one day. I hope she doesn't take this to heart.
Beyonce is always amazing :heart:
edit: lmao "katyperry smurf U KANYE. IT'S LIKE U STEPPED 0N A KITTEN."
Formalhaut
09-14-2009, 04:51 PM
God Kanye West is just mentally retarded. And its not just these rants on the VMA (He did one in 2004 I think), its the fact that he can't write his own songs.
How many times has he featured in another artists song?
xXsarahXx
09-14-2009, 04:58 PM
I cant find the video to this anywhere, the link provided video doesnt work and all youtube videos have been banned. Can someone help me out here please :d
Rocket Edge
09-14-2009, 05:21 PM
Even though he was 100% correct about Beyonce being robbed of that award, he has absolutely no right to voice his opinions there. It was uncalled for and made him seem yet again that his head is well up his ass. As his music goes, I think he's good.
xXsarahXx
09-14-2009, 05:35 PM
Found a working video, apparently videos love IE and not Firefox.
What a total cock though, what business of his was it anyways? It was a female video award, its not as if she robbed him of the male best video.
And Beyonce got her due recognition (well apparently anyways, cant stand that song or video) with the best video of the year award so whats the issue?
Im not the biggest fan of Taylor Swift, her musics a little too cheesy for me tbh but she didnt deserve that, its a huge achievement to win a music award at her age and he just came along and took it away.
Massive massive respect to Beyonce though letting her come back onto the stage.
Kawaii Ryűkishi
09-14-2009, 05:46 PM
God Kanye West is just mentally retarded. And its not just these rants on the VMA (He did one in 2004 I think), its the fact that he can't write his own songs.
How many times has he featured in another artists song?
If you're talking about collaborations, I don't see the problem with them. And he still has his own discography, anyway.
SuperMillionaire
09-14-2009, 06:07 PM
I hope Taylor's mother scolded him for what he did to her daughter. I think she's very adorable and her music is very beautiful. Kanye is a thug.
Bastian
09-14-2009, 07:01 PM
I can't stand the music of any of the three artists mentioned, but my guess is that it had little to do with defending poor little Beyonce and more to do with keeping his own name in the spotlight. That old adage "there's no such thing as bad publicity" or whatever is probably true. People who wouldn't otherwise listen to him are probably checking his music out, and may end up buying his albums eventually as a result. Very clever on his part, if you ask me.
According to a news report, he was asked to leave. So that's good at least.
Breine
09-14-2009, 07:06 PM
I can't stand the music of any of the three artists mentioned, but my guess is that it had little to do with defending poor little Beyonce and more to do with keeping his own name in the spotlight. That old adage "there's no such thing as bad publicity" or whatever is probably true. People who wouldn't otherwise listen to him are probably checking his music out, and may end up buying his albums eventually as a result. Very clever on his part, if you ask me.
According to a news report, he was asked to leave. So that's good at least.
I wouldn't necessarily call that clever on his part. Sure, bad press can be good press.. but at a some people are gonna get fed up with his antics and just think he's a jackass altogether.
Besides, if he wants people to buy his records there are other, better and more clever ways to promote himself.
EDIT: I must say, though, that it is a shame that he acts the way he does, since he's actually a talented artist. It shouldn't be necessary.
Shiny
09-14-2009, 07:38 PM
< Shiny > Kanye is a tool.
Oh and Beyonce is amazing.
charliepanayi
09-14-2009, 08:17 PM
90% of his hit singles feature sampling of other great songs eg. Stronger featured heavy sampling of the Daft Punk song Harder,Better Faster, Stronger. Sampling does not take talent just basic computing skills. As a musician I'm highly critical of sampling its basically piggybacking on other musicians talents. I'm not looking to argue this point on sampling by the way I can't be swayed.
Guess I'll just say that I patently disagree, then.
And I am very much with Kawaii Ryukishi here. Sampling doesn't take talent? Listen to Paul's Boutique by Beastie Boys, Since I Left You by The Avalaches or Entroducing by DJ Shadow and then say that. The latter two (and much of the former) were entirely built from samples and are brilliant. And countless great songs have used samples over the years. You say won't be swayed? Fine, you don't have to like it. But to say sampling doesn't require any talent is complete nonsense.
I do wish Kanye West would let the music do the talking sometimes anyway. As Breine said, he doesn't need to act like this.
JKTrix
09-14-2009, 11:15 PM
Pictures before the event have Kanye with his lady on one arm and a bottle of Hennessy in the other hand. Also has him sharing it with a member of Fallout Boy and Joe Jackson.
There's a possibility that he was pretty drunk when that happened.
His message wasn't wrong, but his delivery definitely was.
FWIW, he wrote an apology on his blog not too long afterwards (like he usually does after these outbursts, in ALL CAPS), probably still drunk.
http://i28.:bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:/o09bo6.jpg
It's gone now in favor of a more sensible one.
Shlup
09-14-2009, 11:44 PM
I like that "I GAVE MY AWARDS TO OUTKAST WHEN THEY DESERVED IT OVER ME" like Taylor should've given hers to Beyonce or something. It's interesting that he disregards the opinions of the award-givers so regularly, as if his opinion were the only correct one.
I was amused by his blog reaction to the "Fishsticks" South Park episode, but it doesn't seem like he's made any progress towards his goal of being a doper person.
Necronopticous
09-14-2009, 11:57 PM
it doesn't seem like he's made any progress towards his goal of being a doper person.
It depends on whether or not you consider rampant use of exclamation points to be a belonging of dopeness.
Also, to be fair, Beyonce's video was one of the best videos of all time--of all time.
IronOcean
09-15-2009, 12:32 AM
. It might have been different if Kanye had done it to someone older and more established like Kelly Clarkson or Pink, but Swift must have felt overwhelmed as it is being in a category with heavy weights like Beyonce and to have someone put her on blast and saying she's unworthy in front of millions of people... god, so not cool.
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because he is a little bitch and did it to a 110 lbs little girl, you thinkhe would have tried that with someone more established and who would have tossed his ass off the stage. i cant stand him i think he is the most ignorant acting artist ever
Shiny
09-15-2009, 12:33 AM
I'm not crazy y'all.
Hahahaha, okay bud. Beyonce should make a song and the lyrics should go, "You lookin' so crazy right now" to the beat of Crazy in Love as a tribute to Kanye.
NeoCracker
09-15-2009, 02:02 AM
I agree it was a pretty ass thing to do, but does it really warrent this much hate? I mean, he stated he felt beyonce's was better and left. That was it...
Again, it was an innapropriate time to do so, and I"m not saying he should have, but really people? I mean, I've see comments posted on youtube far worse then this, and on a daily basis.
Shlup
09-15-2009, 02:18 AM
It's not that he said Beyonce's was better just really quick and was done, it's that he turned what was going to be one of the best moments in a young girls life and humiliated her. And for no reason, too, as Beyonce got an even better award later.
So, yes, it really does warrant this much hate. It was a decidedly un-dope thing to do to someone in front of millions of people.
NeoCracker
09-15-2009, 02:24 AM
It's not that he said Beyonce's was better just really quick and was done, it's that he turned what was going to be one of the best moments in a young girls life and humiliated her. And for no reason, too, as Beyonce got an even better award later.
So, yes, it really does warrant this much hate. It was a decidedly un-dope thing to do to someone in front of millions of people.
I guess I just don't see how one guy going 'I think she was better' at an inappropriate time is very humiliating. :p
Edit: Maybe if he grabbed her boobs while doing it I'd understand.
It's because she has no fire or retort or anything to it. She looked so crumpled. If she was like "Okay, FU, that wasn't dope, was it?" everyone would have just laughed it off. But it WAS like kicking a kitten!
NeoCracker
09-15-2009, 02:29 AM
So if she did have a witty comeback it would somehow change the assholery of what Kanye did?
krissy
09-15-2009, 02:51 AM
yes
YouTube - Ol' Dirty Bastard interrupts Grammy's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2-5GSjZvW8)
ljkkjlcm9
09-15-2009, 03:01 AM
I hate Kanye as a person, but I think he has SOME good music, not all of it.
Opposite, I hate Beyonce's music, but think she's a great person.
And in the middle I don't hate or love Taylor Swift music, and she's just a sweet girl. My girlfriend loves her music though (they're the same age and such), so I end up hearing it a lot. Unlike Beyonce, I can actually stand her music.
I have seen neither video, nor do I care to, but simply, I would never support a Beyonce song anyways.
As for Kanye, everyone just needs to ignore him. And I honestly would have punched him if I was on stage when he did that.
THE JACKEL
ahahah I remember that. ODB was a badman. If Kanye was as much of a freak as ODB he would have gotten away with it
JackNapier
09-15-2009, 03:22 AM
I don't necessarily agree with the concept of these award shows to begin with, they enforce that American Dream aspect that competition is necessary and that you need to win to be respected, while all those nominated (or even not nominated for that matter) should feel proud of any work they achieve.
HOWEVER, let's save that for EoEo.
That being said, Kanye West is indeed a tool. Taylor Swift was obviously basking in a moment that was of great significance to her, and this dolt has to redirect the spotlight to himself and ruin it.
This guy is a joke.
JKTrix
09-15-2009, 03:29 AM
I think it should be noted, since I hadn't seen it mentioned yet, that Beyonce's video actually won 'Video of the Year'. So in a sense, Kanye was vindicated. (Won the 'biggest' award in the show, but lost to Taylor Swift in a more minor category. Awards shows are a joke--come for the entertainment, don't take the actual awards themselves seriously.)
Still, the delivery was wrong.
Bastian
09-15-2009, 05:13 AM
He wins.
Everyone on every forum is STILL talking about it all day today.
Bad publicity = more name recognition = more album and concert ticket sales = Win.
I think he might have planned it.
charliepanayi
09-15-2009, 08:55 AM
Daily Buzzkills: The Kanye West/Taylor Swift incident is a metaphor for racism, and other very important theories | TV | A.V. Club (http://www.avclub.com/articles/daily-buzzkills-the-kanye-westtaylor-swift-inciden,32869/)
This list of theories is quite funny.
I Don't Need A Name
09-15-2009, 10:20 AM
Good on you Kanye!
(Well someones gotta back him up!)
And let's face it...Beyoncé's video is better xD
Quindiana Jones
09-15-2009, 12:08 PM
I don't think I've seen any Beyoncé or Taylor Swift videos. Still some epic douchery on West's part, though.
Old Manus
09-15-2009, 12:31 PM
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/oldmanus/1252999618691.png" border="0" alt="My pick of the crop of pictures floating around /v/ lately">
Quindiana Jones
09-15-2009, 12:33 PM
OMG HE JUST WON'T LET IT GO! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxKIcrDsJAs)
Psychotic
09-15-2009, 01:38 PM
Honestly, and all joking aside, this shocked me to the core. I was really, really angry and I deleted most of Kanye's songs from my iPod in disgust. I also signed an online petition against him and called him a little scrote on my Twitter. We've got to show him that he can't get away with treating people like this.
Beyonce, girl, you brought a tear to my eye. She should win the Nobel Peace Prize for sure.
NeoCracker
09-15-2009, 01:46 PM
Honestly, and all joking aside, this shocked me to the core. I was really, really angry and I deleted most of Kanye's songs from my iPod in disgust. I also signed an online petition against him and called him a little scrote on my Twitter. We've got to show him that he can't get away with treating people like this.
Beyonce, girl, you brought a tear to my eye. She should win the Nobel Peace Prize for sure.
Theres a part of me that really wants to believe you're serious right now. :p
charliepanayi
09-15-2009, 01:58 PM
This is all getting a little silly now. Jay Leno was asking Kanye what his dead mother would think of it! What he did was daft but by the way some people have gone on you'd think that he'd arrived on stage and punched Taylor Swift in the face before running off laughing. He's an idiot but he's hardly Chris Brown in terms of tosspot level.
Old Manus
09-15-2009, 02:00 PM
Theres a part of me that really wants to believe you're serious right now. When it comes to Beyonce, Psy is dangerously in love.
NeoCracker
09-15-2009, 02:02 PM
Well you know what? Kanye should have jumped in earlier.
Taylor swift should be honored by his lateness
The fact he would even show up to this fake :bou::bou::bou::bou:.
Quindiana Jones
09-15-2009, 02:59 PM
The audience can go ahead go nuts, go ape:bou::bou::bou::bou:.
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/oldmanus/1252999618691.png" border="0" alt="My pick of the crop of pictures floating around /v/ lately">
I died. xD
Freya
09-15-2009, 04:05 PM
It doesn't matter if he was right or wrong in what he said, the problem was he took a moment from a young girl who had never won one of those awards before. You also have to remember taylor isn't TRYING to be a pop star. She's trying to be a country star, so the fact that she won a more pop award must have been amazing for her. First award, first time she gets to go up there and she was ecstatic because she was in a league of people she didn't try for, and kanye has to be a d-bag and crush it for her.
My mommy wouldn't have scolded him, my mommy would have flat out knocked him down.
And yeah, if it had been a more well known that he did it too, it would have been ok. Someone who had a bit more footing in the entertainment world. They'd have made a comeback or kicked him off their stage. Taylor, not being part of that world was all "wtf do I do?!"
Freya
09-15-2009, 06:27 PM
Double post because this is hilarious. Obama hates black kanyes. :D
"Pres. Obama just called Kanye West a 'jackass' for his outburst at VMAs when Taylor Swift won. Now THAT'S presidential," Moran, a "Nightline" co-anchor, wrote Monday evening. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32859148/ns/politics-white_house/)
Old Manus
09-15-2009, 07:04 PM
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/oldmanus/kanye2.jpg" width="400">
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/oldmanus/kanye3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/oldmanus/kanye4.jpg
Aurey
09-15-2009, 07:07 PM
I'mma Let You Finish (http://kanyegate.tumblr.com/)
Quindiana Jones
09-15-2009, 07:07 PM
Jackson's death was the best on this year.
Shiny
09-15-2009, 07:32 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/oldmanus/kanye3.jpg
:laugh: I wouldn't be surprised if he did say that.
Kanye on Leno last night was so awkward. I actually felt Leno was like his daddy giving him time out. And then of course after Kanye apologized for the 400th time, he then had a great performance with Rihanna and Jay Z.
Some are saying this is a publicity stunt and all, but I just think he's naturally always been spazzing. The difference is, people listen to him now because he's one the most popular rappers out right now. I went on his blog to read some of his stuff and there's a few other entries of him with his caps lock of rage about something or another. Anywayz, expect another spaz out again sometime soon.
Unbreakable Will
09-15-2009, 07:32 PM
I hate that dirty smurfer... I really would tell him that I think that he's an egotistical narcissistic prick with a tiny smidgen of talent that makes him think his views are worthy enough to ruin someone's moment of happiness....fucking prick...
Bastian
09-15-2009, 07:46 PM
This whole incident inspired me to seek out and watch the South Park episode "Fishsticks" which I've never seen before. Funny! And apparently still so very true.
Polaris
09-15-2009, 07:50 PM
I don't know why people still bother watching the mtv vma the winners are alway so predictable, anyway Kanye West blew up a good moment, Lady Gaga turned up doing another crazy show... mtv is not what it used to be=(
Formalhaut
09-15-2009, 08:09 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/oldmanus/1252999618691.png
I died. xD
I Died Twice.
But why can't they just kick him out of any music award shows for a year or so?
charliepanayi
09-15-2009, 08:34 PM
And miss out on the chance for more publicity for their shows? They'll probably all be clamouring to get Kanye West to do something daft now.
leader of mortals
09-15-2009, 08:56 PM
Kanye West hates Miley Cirus...
He is her 6th fan (http://tweeterwall.mallplace.com/SepOctNov/miley)
You gotta love /b/, and in b4 Rules 1 and 2
Am I the only one who thinks his statement was false? All she did was dance and wave her hand around in that video. Hardly worth humiliating yourself over.
JKTrix
09-15-2009, 11:23 PM
Am I the only one who thinks his statement was false? All she did was dance and wave her hand around in that video. Hardly worth humiliating yourself over.
Personal opinions aside, Taylor Swift and Beyonce were both in the same category that Taylor Swift won in. Beyonce lost to Taylor Swift--but then went on to with the overall 'Best Video of the Year' award. Logically, it doesn't add up. So in that sense, Kanye was not false.
(Also, Kanye owes his career to Jay-Z. Beyonce is married to Jay-Z. You could call it a form of sucking up.)
Madame Adequate
09-16-2009, 12:18 AM
I don't know why people still bother watching the mtv vma the winners are alway so predictable, anyway Kanye West blew up a good moment, Lady Gaga turned up doing another crazy show... mtv is not what it used to be=(
Lady GaGa's set was probably the only part of the whole thing which merited attention.
Am I the only one who thinks his statement was false? All she did was dance and wave her hand around in that video. Hardly worth humiliating yourself over.
Personal opinions aside, Taylor Swift and Beyonce were both in the same category that Taylor Swift won in. Beyonce lost to Taylor Swift--but then went on to with the overall 'Best Video of the Year' award. Logically, it doesn't add up. So in that sense, Kanye was not false.
(Also, Kanye owes his career to Jay-Z. Beyonce is married to Jay-Z. You could call it a form of sucking up.)
I'm not ignorant. Everything you said I know. I wouldn't say repeating "If you liked it" and "Oh oh oh" makes a good song and dancing a good video. That's just my opinion though.
Unbreakable Will
09-16-2009, 04:25 AM
Am I the only one who thinks his statement was false? All she did was dance and wave her hand around in that video. Hardly worth humiliating yourself over.
Personal opinions aside, Taylor Swift and Beyonce were both in the same category that Taylor Swift won in. Beyonce lost to Taylor Swift--but then went on to with the overall 'Best Video of the Year' award. Logically, it doesn't add up. So in that sense, Kanye was not false.
(Also, Kanye owes his career to Jay-Z. Beyonce is married to Jay-Z. You could call it a form of sucking up.)
I'm not ignorant. Everything you said I know. I wouldn't say repeating "If you liked it" and "Oh oh oh" makes a good song and dancing a good video. That's just my opinion though.
I keep telling you people not to ignite Guardians temper, sighhhh...slow learners...;D
Aydin
09-16-2009, 05:57 AM
I actually disagree with the publicity stunt theory because I just deleted every song of his off of my ipod, swore to never listen to his music ever again, and lost every ounce of respect for him.
Meat Puppet
09-16-2009, 06:31 AM
Why stop listening to his music, if you like it?
Moon Rabbits
09-16-2009, 06:33 AM
Lady Gaga's performance was soooo ballinnnnnnnn'.
And I have a new favorite meme, oh my¬¬
Momiji
09-16-2009, 06:42 AM
I'mma Let You Finish (http://kanyegate.tumblr.com/)
http://12.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kpzvzpcZxe1qa3i8uo1_500.jpg
Also, I just now noticed what I can only describe as crop circles in Kanye's hair. Maybe aliens abducted him and appropriated his mind and replaced it with ego.
Aydin
09-16-2009, 07:53 AM
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do more like??
That doesn't even make sense!!!
CimminyCricket
09-16-2009, 08:52 AM
I like his expression though. :c\
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do more like??
That doesn't even make sense!!!
I can't tell if you got the joke or not.
I'll assume you did. :p
krissy
09-16-2009, 10:13 PM
best new meme of 09
Momiji
09-16-2009, 10:42 PM
pffff hahaha
http://3.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kq31lxkKIR1qa3i8uo1_500.png
Kawaii Ryűkishi
09-16-2009, 10:46 PM
<img src="http://18.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kq09ewrT7J1qzn0sio1_500.jpg" title="He would, in fact, do anything for a blonde dyke.">
Bastian
09-16-2009, 10:49 PM
He's been on THREE talk shows since the incident "apologizing" . . .
Even if it wasn't a planned publicity stunt, he's reaping the rewards. "Oh, look at the poor sad rapper, he's so sorry, he seems nice, let's forgive him and buy all his albums."
This pattern is getting old: celebrity does something awful -> celebrity apologizes publicly several times -> celebrity is forgiven -> celebrity does something awful . . . ad nauseam.
Like when ABC "apologized" that they Twittered about Obama calling Kanye a "jackass." They're not sorry. They just realized that they have to SAY they are to be taken seriously in the future.
CimminyCricket
09-16-2009, 10:54 PM
pffff hahaha
http://3.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kq31lxkKIR1qa3i8uo1_500.png
XD!!! *luvs it*
charliepanayi
09-16-2009, 10:57 PM
Even if it wasn't a planned publicity stunt, he's reaping the rewards. "Oh, look at the poor sad rapper, he's so sorry, he seems nice, let's forgive him and buy all his albums.".
Actually it more seems to be internet rants on forums about how Kanye West is clearly the worst human being ever to have existed.
Bastian
09-16-2009, 11:04 PM
I just mean that in all three talk show interviews people applauded and cheered him so loudly when he showed "remorse."
That's cause there was a guy you couldn't see lighting up a board you couldn't see that said "Applause".
If they don't they get an electric shock and miss out on the goody bags.
Tavrobel
09-17-2009, 05:39 AM
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs224.snc1/7129_1162946993719_1229160383_30410974_1765916_n.jpg
IronOcean
09-17-2009, 05:56 AM
I don't know why people still bother watching the mtv vma the winners are alway so predictable, anyway Kanye West blew up a good moment, Lady Gaga turned up doing another crazy show... mtv is not what it used to be=(
Lady GaGa's set was probably the only part of the whole thing which merited attention.
agreed completelty her performance was diffrent and captivating, yes she is weird but a ture entertainer. i love her for being diffrent and wanting to take things to a new height beyond what normal pop stars do.
NeoCracker
09-17-2009, 07:16 AM
I don't know why people still bother watching the mtv vma the winners are alway so predictable, anyway Kanye West blew up a good moment, Lady Gaga turned up doing another crazy show... mtv is not what it used to be=(
Lady GaGa's set was probably the only part of the whole thing which merited attention.
agreed completelty her performance was diffrent and captivating, yes she is weird but a ture entertainer. i love her for being diffrent and wanting to take things to a new height beyond what normal pop stars do.
You mean by writing even worse songs?
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs224.snc1/7129_1162946993719_1229160383_30410974_1765916_n.jpg
That was easily my favorite one of those. :p
Edit: I should say that Gaga sings worse songs, as I don't actually know if she's the one writing them. :p
demondude
09-17-2009, 07:24 AM
I believe Lady Gaga does write her own songs.
Depression Moon
09-17-2009, 01:38 PM
I'm getting tired of hearing about it and all have to say hear to this community is that it's not that big of a deal and what really gives you the right to judge other people because I know all of you don't like it when you are judged.
I make mistakes, but I don't appreciated it when someone judges me based on that mistake. Evil for evil doesn't solve anything.
Afterwards when he was on Jay Leno's show it was obvious that he really didn't mean to do it at first I was thinking he was just passionate and upset which I could understand to an extent because there were times in my life when my body acted on its own accord. If I was at real video game wards and someone gave game of the year to Wii Sports Resort over the top aces, my body might have just floated itself onto the stage and opened its mouth despite my regrettable resistance to do so.
scrumpleberry
09-17-2009, 05:07 PM
Yeah but this isn't a one off though lol.
Unbreakable Will
09-17-2009, 05:54 PM
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs224.snc1/7129_1162946993719_1229160383_30410974_1765916_n.jpg
EPIC!
Madame Adequate
09-17-2009, 06:29 PM
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs224.snc1/7129_1162946993719_1229160383_30410974_1765916_n.jpg
That just might be the greatest anything ever and the fact that it now exists means I forgive Kanye everything.
@ NeoCracker: I thought she was a bit crap too, until I saw that performance and realized that what she does is as much about showmanship as about the song. I still don't like the album version of Paparazzi very much, just her performance from the VMAs.
Rodarian
09-17-2009, 06:41 PM
Kayne believes he should be the rightful successor to the King of Pop title... Which would be totally wrong if he did...And I'm pretty sure Madonna The Queen of Pop would ever let him touch that crown.
He has some good music but stunts like those leave me with a really sour taste in my mouth...
Ms. Knowles is a very classy lady indeed. She'll be getting awards at anything she does and so it was very gracious and utmost selfless to allow Taylor to properly give her speech..
Actually to be honest I really thought Taylor had ended her speech but I guess it wasn't so.
Shlup
09-17-2009, 07:13 PM
I'm getting tired of hearing about it and all have to say hear to this community is that it's not that big of a deal and what really gives you the right to judge other people because I know all of you don't like it when you are judged.
I make mistakes, but I don't appreciated it when someone judges me based on that mistake. Evil for evil doesn't solve anything.
People are judged based on their actions. How else would we judge them? When someone does something stupid in front of millions of people you don't think anyone should judge them for it? Mistake or not, it takes a lot of effort to do something like walk on stage, take the mic from someone, and make a speech. Several conscious decisions are involved there.
And it's not the only time he's done it!
So, there, that's what gives us the right to judge him. You do something stupid (multiple times especially) and people will believe you are stupid.
Honestly, I'm shocked that this thread hit 100 posts.
As much as they talk about it in the media, it seems this is bigger than Michael Jackson's death.
Formalhaut
09-17-2009, 08:11 PM
You've got to see this!
Kanye West's Funniest Outburts - NME (http://www.nme.com/photos/kanye-west-s-funniest-outbursts/152392/11/1)
NeoCracker
09-17-2009, 09:37 PM
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs224.snc1/7129_1162946993719_1229160383_30410974_1765916_n.jpg
That just might be the greatest anything ever and the fact that it now exists means I forgive Kanye everything.
@ NeoCracker: I thought she was a bit crap too, until I saw that performance and realized that what she does is as much about showmanship as about the song. I still don't like the album version of Paparazzi very much, just her performance from the VMAs.
You know, I could go on about how I felt about that preformance, but tis a rant for another thread. I'll just cut off at agreeing he can now be forgiven. :p
scrumpleberry
09-17-2009, 10:21 PM
WAIT GUYS! STOP THE PRESS!
BEYONCE IS NOT A CLASSY LADY AFTER ALL :( (http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=604)
Old Manus
09-17-2009, 11:39 PM
Oh, celebrity luvvies and their 'alter-egos' to 'protect who they really are inside'. What a load of :bou::bou::bou::bou:e.
Symbolic Occult Rebirth or; How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Rip-Off David Bowie
Bastian
09-18-2009, 12:14 AM
Afterwards when he was on Jay Leno's show it was obvious that he really didn't mean to do it
I saw the interview you're speaking of. That wasn't obvious to me. What was obvious to me was that he HAD to give an interview, and that he'd probably been coached by his handlers on what to say and how to say it. The only reason he's "sorry" is because he got booed. If people cheered, he wouldn't claim to be sorry.
The only thing that seemed real to me during Leno's interview was when Leno said, "I've had the fortune to meet your [dead] mother. What would she think about this situation?"
Kanye didn't answer the question at all. But you could tell for a moment there that THAT hit him. THAT might have made him think sincerely about it.
McLovin'
09-18-2009, 12:47 AM
I AM NOT A CELEBRITY. I'M A NORMAL PERSON THAT'S JUST FAMOUS. ~kanye
Oh Kanye.
crashNUMBERS
09-18-2009, 02:31 AM
He's a meme now (http://www.phillyd.tv/2009/09/15/kanye-west-is-a-meme-now/)
Freya
09-18-2009, 03:01 AM
He's a meme now (http://www.phillyd.tv/2009/09/15/kanye-west-is-a-meme-now/)
lol have you not looked at this thread yet? xD
Bunny
09-18-2009, 03:06 AM
HEY GUYS DID YOU HEAR WHAT KANYE WEST DID TO TAYLOR SWIFT WHILE SHE WAS RECEIVING HER VIDEO MUSIC AWARD AWARD???????!?!?
Meat Puppet
09-18-2009, 03:12 AM
agreed completelty her performance was diffrent and captivating, yes she is weird but a ture entertainer. i love her for being diffrent and wanting to take things to a new height beyond what normal pop stars do.
wasn’t kanye west being diffrent and captivating and taking things to a new height beyond what normal pop stars do, too?
agreed completelty her performance was diffrent and captivating, yes she is weird but a ture entertainer. i love her for being diffrent and wanting to take things to a new height beyond what normal pop stars do.
wasn’t kanye west being diffrent and captivating and taking things to a new height beyond what normal pop stars do, too?
He's a lyrical wordsmith!
HEY GUYS DID YOU HEAR WHAT KANYE WEST DID TO TAYLOR SWIFT WHILE SHE WAS RECEIVING HER VIDEO MUSIC AWARD AWARD???????!?!?
No. What?
Unbreakable Will
09-18-2009, 06:06 AM
Bunny, such angst... hehe keep it up xD
Kyros
09-18-2009, 07:43 AM
my facebook wall is nothing but a ginormous kanye meme reference at this point XD
krissy
09-18-2009, 10:05 AM
yo bunny
im really happy for ya and imma let you finish but
MY MOM DOES SOME OF THE BEST IRONY in the history of SHIRTS
Depression Moon
09-18-2009, 02:50 PM
I'm getting tired of hearing about it and all have to say hear to this community is that it's not that big of a deal and what really gives you the right to judge other people because I know all of you don't like it when you are judged.
I make mistakes, but I don't appreciated it when someone judges me based on that mistake. Evil for evil doesn't solve anything.
People are judged based on their actions. How else would we judge them? When someone does something stupid in front of millions of people you don't think anyone should judge them for it? Mistake or not, it takes a lot of effort to do something like walk on stage, take the mic from someone, and make a speech. Several conscious decisions are involved there.
And it's not the only time he's done it!
So, there, that's what gives us the right to judge him. You do something stupid (multiple times especially) and people will believe you are stupid.
I just personally believe what Jesus said in the Bible that the only judge of mankind is God himself and I personally don't do it I just hope that people will do better.
Bunny
09-18-2009, 05:44 PM
I just personally believe what Jesus said in the Bible that the only judge of mankind is God himself and I personally don't do it I just hope that people will do better.
Yeah, you're lying if you are saying that you have never judged another person at face value or otherwise.
Bastian
09-18-2009, 06:41 PM
@Depression Moon: but aren't you judging us for judging him? You judger, you! :P
Old Manus
09-18-2009, 06:47 PM
Get Martin Shaw in here!
Unbreakable Will
09-18-2009, 07:24 PM
Why you got bad taste in music Google?
http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx184/Jermayan/omgmeme.jpg
Caraliz
09-18-2009, 07:32 PM
This is the best thing to happen ever. I don't give a :bou::bou::bou::bou: about Taylor Swift and if or when she b'awwwed about it, but I love it when Kanye does :bou::bou::bou::bou: like this. It always makes me lol.
Besides if I was her I'd just be like "nigga, please" and continued on. Anyone who is afraid of Kanye deserves that. Who's afraid of a gay fish? :D
Formalhaut
09-18-2009, 08:53 PM
Why you got bad taste in music Google?
[large image]
Rofl.
Who changed the title from "Kanye West Is A Tool" to "Kanye West Is The Voice Of The Generation"?
BS. He has the IQ of 10 year old.
(Sorry To 10 Year olds who may have been offended)
Shlup
09-18-2009, 09:04 PM
I just personally believe what Jesus said in the Bible that the only judge of mankind is God himself and I personally don't do it I just hope that people will do better.
By saying you hope people will do "better," you are making a judgment call that judging people is somehow worse than what you perceive that you are doing, which means that you are not doing what you perceive and are instead doing what you are judging other people for doing.
I personally feel, with or without the Bible, that judging people as better or worse than yourself (or society, etc) is wrong, but judging them as their own entity based on their actions is not only appropriate but unavoidable.
Also, the Google one is the best one so far, followed closely by the Dori one. xD
Aurey
09-18-2009, 10:10 PM
imho the title should really be "KANYE IS GAY ELVIS, TAYLOR SWIFT IS COUNTRY THANKS MTV, BEYONCE'S LEGS, ENCYCLOPEDIA LADY DRAMATIGAGA, AND IMMA LET YOU FINISH BUT ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME."
This thread = potpourri meme mtv brilliance. Also Russell Brand stinks.
Old Manus
09-18-2009, 10:31 PM
Who changed the title from "Kanye West Is A Tool" to "Kanye West Is The Voice Of The Generation"?
BS. He has the IQ of 10 year old.
(Sorry To 10 Year olds who may have been offended)Yo, he's a lyrical wordsmith, yo.
NeoCracker
09-19-2009, 01:56 AM
Who changed the title from "Kanye West Is A Tool" to "Kanye West Is The Voice Of The Generation"?
BS. He has the IQ of 10 year old.
(Sorry To 10 Year olds who may have been offended)Yo, he's a lyrical wordsmith, yo.
Maybe when compared to Chingy...
Raistlin
09-19-2009, 03:36 AM
I don't give a crap about Kanye West or Beyonce or Taylor Swift. Their value to me is exclusively based on entertainment. And between the South Park episode and the recent drama and the new meme based on said drama, Kanye West has been very entertaining. I say keep it up!
Big D
09-19-2009, 04:00 AM
I'd never heard of Swift until this incident, but that was still some grade-A douchery from West during the awards. In isolation it wouldn't be as bad, but as part of a trend it was just really crummy.
:edit: there've been some pretty decent lulz as a result, though.
Depression Moon
09-19-2009, 09:36 PM
I just personally believe what Jesus said in the Bible that the only judge of mankind is God himself and I personally don't do it I just hope that people will do better.
By saying you hope people will do "better," you are making a judgment call that judging people is somehow worse than what you perceive that you are doing, which means that you are not doing what you perceive and are instead doing what you are judging other people for doing.
I personally feel, with or without the Bible, that judging people as better or worse than yourself (or society, etc) is wrong, but judging them as their own entity based on their actions is not only appropriate but unavoidable.
Also, the Google one is the best one so far, followed closely by the Dori one. xD
Judging actions and a person are different I'm not judging anyone here personally. I mean rightly as name calling or calling someone a horrible human being is just the judgement that I do not like. I also don't understand how it's not okay to do this to other members on this site, but to do so to some random staranger or celebrity. I think we have a misconception of words. I just personally believe that because of the experiences that I have witnessed . I just go on the actions, not as who they are themselves because I have no right to base an assumption on someone I really don't know. People assume and can make thing terrible for that. You can't really know what's going on those basis without taking a trip into that person's mind and another example of that is what that person has made a statement to me earlier saying that I'm lying to myself. How would one really know that if they do not know me. I didn't make the whole statement as a whole either. I had done some in the past, but it wasn't really anything serious and the ones that were I regret it. I just grown to live by different morals now.
Ouch!
09-19-2009, 09:57 PM
I just personally believe what Jesus said in the Bible that the only judge of mankind is God himself and I personally don't do it I just hope that people will do better.
By saying you hope people will do "better," you are making a judgment call that judging people is somehow worse than what you perceive that you are doing, which means that you are not doing what you perceive and are instead doing what you are judging other people for doing.
I personally feel, with or without the Bible, that judging people as better or worse than yourself (or society, etc) is wrong, but judging them as their own entity based on their actions is not only appropriate but unavoidable.
Also, the Google one is the best one so far, followed closely by the Dori one. xD
Judging actions and a person are different I'm not judging anyone here personally. I mean rightly as name calling or calling someone a horrible human being is just the judgement that I do not like. I also don't understand how it's not okay to do this to other members on this site, but to do so to some random staranger or celebrity. I think we have a misconception of words. I just personally believe that because of the experiences that I have witnessed . I just go on the actions, not as who they are themselves because I have no right to base an assumption on someone I really don't know. People assume and can make thing terrible for that. You can't really know what's going on those basis without taking a trip into that person's mind and another example of that is what that person has made a statement to me earlier saying that I'm lying to myself. How would one really know that if they do not know me. I didn't make the whole statement as a whole either. I had done some in the past, but it wasn't really anything serious and the ones that were I regret it. I just grown to live by different morals now.
That doesn't change the fact that you're condemning others for making judgments about Kanye West as an individual. You are telling others that it is wrong to make character judgments, but in-so-doing you have made a judgment that someone else is doing something wrong. Your argument is inherently cyclical and hypocritical. If you truly wish to become completely non-judgmental, you would not only have to become completely apathetic in response to things, but also in your thoughts. I would argue this is completely impossible for any human being.
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