should I quit?

[eestlinc]

As I have always been the People's Staff Member, I find it appropriate to ask the People whether I should continue in that role, or whether I should quit. Please tell me what you think.

If you prefer not to post your thoughts publicly, you can PM them to me. Or you can do whatever else you wish to express your thoughts.

[The Man]

Ehh, the only complaint I've ever had with you as a staff member is your sometimes sporadic activity. So my answer depends on how active you'll be in the future. Even then though it's not like eoff is exactly understaffed right now, so I can't say your inactivity is even hurting the staff much :monster:

[Shlup]

Eest, have you learned nothing from your time on staff? You never ask their opinion. -_-;

[eestlinc]

that's why I'm the People's Staff Member

[Marshall Banana]

Only if you go out like Spike Spiegel.

Bang.

[XxSephirothxX]

Only if you go out like Spike Spiegel.

Bang.
This means you get to murder 10-20 people in one bloody killing spree before you bite it. Choose wisely.

[Tavrobel]

You'll also wind up killing someone who genuinely hates your guts, as part of the spree.

But, in my opinion, yes, you should step down.

[rubah]

haven't you frozen into the giant eestcicle yet?

[eestlinc]

it is quite cold outside, yes.

[Bunny]

You should quit and name me your successor.

[Shlup]

Quit telling him to quit, dammit! He's one of the few people in the staff forum who aren't just awful people.

[Meat Puppet]

I say you let this one be decided by a good old fashioned coin toss

[Christmas]

Doesn't matter, they are too lazy to remove your CK rights anyway. :bigsmile:

[Psychotic]

Ewwww, Eestlinc!

[Agent Proto]

Do what feels right. If stepping down is the answer, then so be it. If you don't feel it's time, then don't.

Put my vote for yes, do step down, but I wouldn't mind if you stay. It's a win either way!

[Old Manus]

Quit and create as much drama as possible in the process.

[Rye]

elsie is too cool to quit! don't do it!

[Raistlin]

But then they'd just replace you with some dumb newbie who I don't know and I'd be sad that my eesty is gone. You were also the best CK when you were active. Not that you had much real competition...

Actually, if you do go out, can you do something crazy to make your former co-workers have to actually do work to fix it? That would be funny. Oh, you should add The Pimp!

Anyway, in all seriousness, if you don't have time for this place anymore, it might help to sever the tie for a bit to take a long vacation. Do what you think is right. I'd still miss you, though. <3

[Baloki]

I will not allow Elsie to quit, sorry.

[Shoeberto]

Quit telling him to quit, dammit! He's one of the few people in the staff forum who aren't just awful people.
:'(

[Chemical]

I should be a CK

[Levian]

I would answer but apparently I'm not People :colbert:

[Momiji]

I don't wanna see eest quit.


but on that note

I should be a CK

[eestlinc]

I don't think I can add smilies.

[Quindiana Jones]

Quitting is for quitters.

Seriousness aside, if you do anything staffy here then don't quit. If you're not doing anything, quit and let someone who will work do it.

[Christmas]

Work? Everyone here including the staff are here to enjoy themselves. The work can ALL be passed to that Psychotic, we have him here for a reason. :bigsmile:

[Marshall Banana]

I hate when people talk as if a CK or admin position is like a real job with some kind of work ethic.

Screw that mentality! Only quit if you're not having fun!

[Quindiana Jones]

If someone isn't productive then they should be replaced with someone who is.

[eestlinc]

that is a subject of much debate.

[Del Murder]

Would that mean I'd have to quit too?

[Tavrobel]

Baloki has spoken. eest will not be quitting.


Screw that mentality! Only quit if you're not having fun!

I figure the SS would've all left this place for dead a long time ago if that were the case.

[Momiji]

Nah. I have lots of fun working on stuff in my rare spare time when I don't feel like doing anything else, and then being told I don't do :bou::bou::bou::bou: around here. Seriously.

[eestlinc]

Would that mean I'd have to quit too?

I think I am feeling down because my fantasy football team is so bad.

[Psychotic]

Forums staff is divided into two groups. The first are the old 'uns who have been on staff since the dawn of time, don't post on EoFF much anymore because they developed interesting real lives, and they're still on staff because they're pretty chill people and I guess because throwing people out after they had contributed so much is harsh. Sometimes they get guilt tripped and go on posting sprees for a month before going back to the shadows.

The second are the ones that get involved in the community and actually do work, whatever work there is to actually be done around here these days. (yesterday I banned a guy and deleted all 8 or so of his posts! It was the most exciting thing I've done in the past few months!)

Both groups contribute to decisions and each brings something different to the table.

I am in group two right now, but you only have another year or two left of me before I burn out and join group one, so make the most of me while you can, EoFF!

[theundeadhero]

The funnest part is watching everyone else hope so dearly to get promote if you quit.

[Tavrobel]

As far as I'm concerned, the first group is like that extra testicle. Technically, you don't need it, and if it were gone, the other would simply do the amount of work it's supposed to.

[eestlinc]

My posting sprees happen when there happens to be something interesting going on here when I log in.


As far as I'm concerned, the first group is like that extra testicle. Technically, you don't need it, and if it were gone, the other would simply do the amount of work it's supposed to.

I prefer having both.

[Quindiana Jones]

Forums staff is divided into two groups. The first are the old 'uns who have been on staff since the dawn of time, don't post on EoFF much anymore because they developed interesting real lives, and they're still on staff because they're pretty chill people and I guess because throwing people out after they had contributed so much is harsh. Sometimes they get guilt tripped and go on posting sprees for a month before going back to the shadows.

The second are the ones that get involved in the community and actually do work, whatever work there is to actually be done around here these days. (yesterday I banned a guy and deleted all 8 or so of his posts! It was the most exciting thing I've done in the past few months!)

Both groups contribute to decisions and each brings something different to the table.

I am in group two right now, but you only have another year or two left of me before I burn out and join group one, so make the most of me while you can, EoFF!

The first group should be Former Staffed. There are plenty of active members around here who can do stuff. It just seems a waste to me, just because of some past happenings. I've never understood the whole "dude, he did this 50 years ago show some respect" thing. I respect what the person did, but there's no point continuing that respect if they've done nothing else. I can't see the behind the scenes stuff here, so it may be that eest bans and deletes stuff when he sees it, in which case he should stay.

Also, does making the most out of you mean spamming the crap out of this place so that you have lots to delete and stuff, because I am totally up for that.

Oh, and not posting because there's nothing interesting to post about is a perfectly valid reason for not posting. If you only think you should leave because you don't post much, eest, then you're a bumhole. As long as you at least check in on this place, then you're pretty much doing your job.

[theundeadhero]

If they get Former Staffed we're not hiring new knights to replace them. It's not like we would need them.

[Psychotic]

Also, does making the most out of you mean spamming the crap out of this place so that you have lots to delete and stuff, because I am totally up for that.The only spam worth deleting is from spambots pushing their crap. Feel free to follow in their footsteps if you want, but also know that they account for like 90% of the bans these days. (the other 10% being the odd second account)

[Quindiana Jones]

Then don't hire new Knights. It's not a difficult conclusion to arrive at, tuh.

So a thread devoted to making vulgar Psy related jokes would be completely allowed?

[eestlinc]

we actually don't need huge amounts of modding these days. you guys are so well behaved, and we don't have masses of newbies posting in the wrong place and starting flame wars anymore.

[Quindiana Jones]

How about I make 57 new accounts and make a different newbie thread in every forum? And all the newbies would flame each other in the other threads. And they'd do their best to bypass the swear filter too. :bigsmile:

[Psychotic]

So a thread devoted to making vulgar Psy related jokes would be completely allowed?It's not like there haven't been a hundred threads like that already, really. Mix it up a little and make it about Wolf Kanno!

Oh that reminds me, Group 3: The FF Forum Knights. We uh...we don't talk about them. They go about doing their business and...well they kind of creep me out to be honest with you. They are ghouls, I am telling you.

[Quindiana Jones]

I'll find the most easy name to translate into something rude and make a thread about them some time.

[rubah]

I'm straddling the fence between group 1 and group 2

[Raistlin]

I don't think I can add smilies.

Then you're useless to me. :mad2:


we actually don't need huge amounts of modding these days. you guys are so well behaved...

Hey, I tried to help! Not the past couple of months, but still. Nobody kept up the debate about the swear filter and my most interesting thread was made private. :(

[Levian]

Forums staff is divided into two groups. The first are the old 'uns who have been on staff since the dawn of time, don't post on EoFF much anymore because they developed interesting real lives, and they're still on staff because they're pretty chill people and I guess because throwing people out after they had contributed so much is harsh. Sometimes they get guilt tripped and go on posting sprees for a month before going back to the shadows.

The second are the ones that get involved in the community and actually do work, whatever work there is to actually be done around here these days. (yesterday I banned a guy and deleted all 8 or so of his posts! It was the most exciting thing I've done in the past few months!)

Both groups contribute to decisions and each brings something different to the table.

I am in group two right now, but you only have another year or two left of me before I burn out and join group one, so make the most of me while you can, EoFF!

The first group should be Former Staffed. There are plenty of active members around here who can do stuff. It just seems a waste to me, just because of some past happenings. I've never understood the whole "dude, he did this 50 years ago show some respect" thing. I respect what the person did, but there's no point continuing that respect if they've done nothing else. I can't see the behind the scenes stuff here, so it may be that eest bans and deletes stuff when he sees it, in which case he should stay.


Ah, we've been having this discussion so many times and it never leads anywhere. It doesn't really matter though, we can afford to have some inactives with us as long as we've got a good group active, which I think we do at the moment. :mog: With Cid gone and not having a leader around, there's nobody who has the authority to demote anyone, other than themselves, and such we seem to be going with a "I trust it you'll step down when you're ready for it" mentality.

Personally I don't think anyone should be demoted against their will, that's just going to set a bad smell to the place. However I do think someone who is inactive should be asked how things are going and if they are able to keep up with this place. Don't see anything wrong with that. :mog:

[Quindiana Jones]

I think all members should be BANNED after more than three hours inactivity. BANNED UNTO HECK.

[Levian]

Those who registered in 2000 and 2001 should only get 2 hours.

[Quindiana Jones]

I'd just ban everyone who joined in this decade.

[Raistlin]

I agree.

[Quindiana Jones]

I'm counting you in that category too, Raistlin. I don't care when you joined. We should take up every opportunity to ban you unjustly.

[eestlinc]

But Raistlin joined in 1999.

[Tavrobel]

So Raistlin would be one of the few unbanned members?

Well, on the bright side, he would be a prisoner in a desolate land.

[Quindiana Jones]

I still say ban him anyway.

[Madonna]

In times such as these, elsie, you have to ask yourself what Bruckner would do in your shoes; when you know that, you know all the right answers!

[Lawr]

theundeadhero calls the shots. I'm not even joking.

[Chemical]

If they get Former Staffed we're not hiring new knights to replace them. It's not like we would need them.

you get paid?

[Raistlin]

So Raistlin would be one of the few unbanned members?

Out of active members, it'd be just me and Jojo.

... on second thought, I no longer agree with that plan.

[Shlup]

Newsflash people: eest (or anyone) stepping down does not mean it's more likely that you'll be knighted, so quit with the puppy eyes. We don't need new staff members.

The real value of a staff member right now is our sharing our perspectives in the Staff Forum, and their activity outside of the Staff Forum. Since no non-staffer can judge the former, you guys are only getting half the picture. Doesn't make anyone's opinion invalid, but it's something to keep in mind.

And to those who are saying "other people would do more," what exactly would anyone do? The place is in order, events are going on... What else is there to do?


I'm counting you in that category too, Raistlin. I don't care when you joined. We should take up every opportunity to ban you unjustly.

*hi5*



So Raistlin would be one of the few unbanned members?

Out of active members, it'd be just me and Jojo.

... on second thought, I no longer agree with that plan.

You forgot about everyone who joined in 2000, genius. You know better.

[Tavrobel]

Well, the plan was to ban people from the current decade, not the millennium, otherwise, all of the 2000 people would stay, too.

[Quindiana Jones]

Wow, has this been turned into an actual plan now?

[Tavrobel]

It's not a bad one.

[eestlinc]

excellent work

[Chemical]

The real value of a staff member right now is our sharing our perspectives in the Staff Forum, and their activity outside of the Staff Forum. Since no non-staffer can judge the former, you guys are only getting half the picture. Doesn't make anyone's opinion invalid, but it's something to keep in mind.


The staff forum is like Valhalla; I imagine it's where I will go when I die.

[Raistlin]

You forgot about everyone who joined in 2000, genius. You know better.

Long version: "This decade" could also have meant the past ten years or more commonly any ten year period AABA where B remains the same (e.g., the 80s, the 90s, etc.). Both of which are perfectly valid. I was using the latter, and most popular, definition.

Short version: *raspberry*


And to those who are saying "other people would do more," what exactly would anyone do? The place is in order, events are going on... What else is there to do?

Stir :bou::bou::bou::bou: up. Good job, eest.

[Shlup]

Fine, we can ban everyone from the last lustrum.

And I know right! What an ass. I'll just make this easy and ban him.

[eestlinc]

stirring up :bou::bou::bou::bou: is what good waffles do!

[Raistlin]

And I know right! What an ass. I'll just make this easy and ban him.

I wasn't being sarcastic. This is me talking. Stirring :bou::bou::bou::bou: up is a positive. eest should stay as long as he continues to entertain me.

[Shlup]

It's certainly something to do. And it's funny to see all the puppy-eyed members bein' all "pick me plz."

Trade secret: We usually knight someone because we're bored.

[Dignified Pauper]

Knight Old Manus, just to make Christmas angry.

[eestlinc]

remember back when we would say you wouldn't get knighted if you asked to be?

[Shlup]

No one asked to be.

[Raistlin]

Now there's a whole ritual designed around asking to be CK'd. The integrity of the office was ruined long ago.

EDIT: in response to eesty.

[Shlup]

Oh yes, the ritual.

Let me help you guys out: Here's step one. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/B5NVMP1FIHK0)

[Raistlin]

I was talking about the CK competition, but that helped my point even better.

And... lightsaber chopsticks? :|

[NorthernChaosGod]

I don't even know who you are.

[Shlup]

I need lightsaber chopsticks to go with my lightsaber spoons. :|

[Marshall Banana]

Speaking of puppy eyes, I want to be able to edit Spooktacular. I've been making pretend skins in Photoshop since Halloween, and I even had a dream about changing the skin to whatever I want. :kaoclove:


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m285/fofonda/sleepytiki.jpg

[Shlup]

Okay, I'll admin you right now. All you have to do is ask, you know.

[The Man]

you know, I had no idea that most of those style sets even existed. I think I'm going to be using fencing cactuar for awhile now :monster:

[rubah]

eest can stay if he'll upload a baritone solo

[eestlinc]

i lost my copy of my senior recital cd. I think my mom has a copy at her house.

[rubah]

has to be recent

[Christmas]

Quit and create as much drama as possible in the process.

I can't believe that this bloke turned out right. :(

[Chemical]

" I'M A CYBORG,BUT THAT'S OK "

[Psychotic]

So basically what this thread has taught us is that an abuse of administrative power that sets Raistlin's join date to 2009 would be beneficial for all.
It's certainly something to do. And it's funny to see all the puppy-eyed members bein' all "pick me plz."Oh please let me merge double posts! It's been my lifelong passion!

[Quindiana Jones]

You may as well skip the difficult and time consuming process of banning everyone from this decade, and just changing it to anyone from outside this decade. That way we're all winners.

[Wolf Kanno]

So a thread devoted to making vulgar Psy related jokes would be completely allowed?It's not like there haven't been a hundred threads like that already, really. Mix it up a little and make it about Wolf Kanno!

You only want that so you would have an excuse to send me more of your "love Pms". You don't need a thread for that. :love:


Oh that reminds me, Group 3: The FF Forum Knights. We uh...we don't talk about them. They go about doing their business and...well they kind of creep me out to be honest with you. They are ghouls, I am telling you.We are not "ghouls" we prefer to be called "living impaired" :colbert:

As for people being squeaky clean on this forum, I feel this justifies my petitions to raise the stakes of what is mod worthy. Posting in EoEo is a ban worth offense as well as having Avatars with the color blue in them. I also feel the letters S and T should be removed from all posts. :colbert:

[Agent Proto]

I also feel the letters S and T should be removed from all posts. :colbert:




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conider i done. ;coo;

Actually, just kidding. This post looks retarded without S and T, maybe we should replace them instead? imagine the hilarity if S was Z and T was Y? Now yhay'z qualiyy zhiy yhere!

[Freya]

Oh hey a thread about a staffer wondering if they should quit.

[NorthernChaosGod]

I need lightsaber chopsticks to go with my lightsaber spoons. :|

Do you really have lightsaber spoons? O_O

[Shlup]

" I'M A CYBORG,BUT THAT'S OK "

Faaabulous movie!



I need lightsaber chopsticks to go with my lightsaber spoons. :|

Do you really have lightsaber spoons? O_O

YES!! They came in my Cornflakes and they light up. I really wanted to send in my proofs of purchase for the R2D2 cereal bowl, but I didn't get enough. :(

[Marshall Banana]

Someone should buy this for you for Christmas: My Melody Vibrating Shoulder Massager (http://www.jbox.com/PRODUCT/MYM001).

[Shlup]

So much, but I don't think my mommy would be too thrilled about it being on my Amazon wishlist. xD

Mebbe I will secretly email it to BJ.

[Levian]

QUIT! QUIT! QUIT!

[Chemical]

" I'M A CYBORG,BUT THAT'S OK "

Faaabulous movie!


I highly recommend Zombie Strippers.

[Tavrobel]

Actually, just kidding. This post looks retarded without S and T, maybe we should replace them instead? imagine the hilarity if S was Z and T was Y? Now yhay'z qualiyy zhiy yhere!

We could run everything through an Al Bhed translator.


Oh hey a thread about a staffer wondering if they should quit.

Ohh, hey look, another opportunity for someone to point out another Captain Obvious.

[Momiji]

Oh hey a thread about a staffer wondering if they should quit.

Oh hey look it's someone pretending to be a jaded oldbie http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll65/momijitsukuyomi/emot-v.gif

[Tavrobel]

Way to steal the joke, Captain Obvious.

[Shlup]

Knock it off! No one likes either of you so just go back to the sad corner!

[Goldenboko]

Don't step down eest. Everyone telling you to quit just wants your job. :)

[Momiji]

Love you too, Shlup.

*shuffles over to sad corner*

[Raistlin]

I highly recommend Zombie Strippers.

I told my friends last year at college that we should watch it, but they disagreed. It looks hilariously awful.

[Shlup]

Samurai Princess is also amazing. TIT GRENADES!

[eestlinc]

it does not appear that the People demand my overthrow.

[NorthernChaosGod]

I need lightsaber chopsticks to go with my lightsaber spoons. :|

Do you really have lightsaber spoons? O_O

YES!! They came in my Cornflakes and they light up. I really wanted to send in my proofs of purchase for the R2D2 cereal bowl, but I didn't get enough. :(

I must see them.

[Shlup]

Not mine specifically, but the exact same one.

BAM!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/116/290208190_b1024d083f.jpg

[NorthernChaosGod]

I'm jealous. D:

Someone get me lightsaber spoons!

I will repay you in sexual favors.

Or cash.

[eestlinc]

I will repay you in sexual favors.
Sexual favors for shlup? that's a steep, steep price. why not just pony up the money?

[Shlup]

They're from cereal boxes like multiple years ago.

Hey, here's one on eBay for $4 (http://cgi.ebay.com/star-wars-lightsaber-spoon_W0QQitemZ320452094672QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a9c6eead0).

[eestlinc]

definitely cheaper to pay $4!

[rubah]

make your own lightsaber chopsticks.

get a little led, put it in a clear plastic tube, paint some metal around the end, voila

[NorthernChaosGod]

I will repay you in sexual favors.
Sexual favors for shlup? that's a steep, steep price. why not just pony up the money?

Lol, what's wrong with Shlup?

[Loony BoB]

All I gotta say is from way early in the thread.

Shlup: So he's one of the few that isn't just awful? What else is he? That's mean!

rubah: You're totally group 2. Totally.

[Old Manus]

Lightsaber spoons.

[Raistlin]

it does not appear that the People demand my overthrow.

No, we just don't demand your peaceful resignation. Violent overthrow is much more fun.

[NorthernChaosGod]

it does not appear that the People demand my overthrow.

No, we just don't demand your peaceful resignation. Violent overthrow is much more fun.

QFT

If you're going to leave, leave in style.

[eestlinc]

bring it

[rubah]

*waves kitten-chucks*

[Raistlin]

bring it

Consider it brought.

[Lawr]

Consider it purchased for only $12.95. :shobon:

[Linus]

bring it
Dibs on his spot.

[Quindiana Jones]

Dibs on Linus' spot after Linus gets eest's spot.

[The Man]

Dibs on Quin's spot after Quin gets Linus' spot after Linus gets Eest's spot.

[Levian]

dammit, too late.

[Jiro]

If he quits then he probably won't come round here any more at all and hell no do I want that to happen

[Del Murder]

So I've decided I'm not going to quit.

EDIT: whoops wrong account

[eestlinc]

I gotta stop doing that.