Most annoying anything final fantasy related???

[reinward]

ACTIVATING COMBAT MODE



arrrghhhhh!!!!

[Flying Arrow]

Sequels, prequels, spin-offs, movies, and the laughing scene in Final Fantasy X. Everything else is gold.

[Vermachtnis]

Confuse status effect.

[Momiji]

The general fanbase.

[The Crystal]

A big portion of FFVI's fanbase.

[Rad Bromance]

The vast majority of FFVII's fanbase.

[Depression Moon]

A big portion of FFVI's fanbase.

Oh you must mean VII.

Confuse and Disease are the far most annoying status affects, but it's all good as it makes the game harder.

[ANGRYWOLF]

especially the ones on a certain forum Psychotic doesn't want us to bash...

lol...:D

Mods on several FF forums; not the eyes on FF one but others, who actively take sides in disagreements.

:D

[Christmas]

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/thumb/7/75/Malboro_%28FFIX%29.jpg/200px-Malboro_%28FFIX%29.jpg

[The Crystal]

Oh you must mean VII.

No, I mean VI.

[Vyk]

The most annoying thing about Final Fantasy is that it doesn't feel like Final Fantasy

...

:P

"Whatever..." (x200000)

[silentenigma]

DO NOT WANT:

http://www.socksmakepeoplesexy.net/images/ff8/garden1.pnghttp://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z172/mulmulmul/Final%20Fantasy%20XIII%20blog/Final_Fantasy_XIII_Enemies.jpghttp://static.desktopnexus.com/wallpapers/134345-bigthumbnail.jpghttp://gamernode.com/upload/manager///News%20Images/Industry/gam_finalfantasy13scanmag_4901258145819.jpg
http://gaygamer.net/images/Vaan2.jpg

(want):

edit:
http://www.thefinalfantasy.com/games/ff6/images/9.jpg
http://lparchive.org/LetsPlay/Dirge%20of%20Cerberus/Update%2028/34-highwind.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_K5IIY6T5-v0/SxFerca7nFI/AAAAAAAAWSM/1BLPDASyA6s/s400/FFVII-MidgarZolom_Death.jpg
http://i.testfreaks.com/images/products/600x400/234/final-fantasy-vi-advance-gba.1515754.jpg
http://www.wikisquare.com/_media/ff6/personnage/locke.jpg

The excessive extravagance in these newer entries is killing me...

[Rad Bromance]

DO NOT WANT:

http://www.socksmakepeoplesexy.net/images/ff8/garden1.pnghttp://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z172/mulmulmul/Final%20Fantasy%20XIII%20blog/Final_Fantasy_XIII_Enemies.jpghttp://static.desktopnexus.com/wallpapers/134345-bigthumbnail.jpghttp://gamernode.com/upload/manager///News%20Images/Industry/gam_finalfantasy13scanmag_4901258145819.jpg
http://gaygamer.net/images/Vaan2.jpg

(want):

http://www.cavesofnarshe.com/ff6/images/ff6_landing_curly.gifhttp://media.photobucket.com/image/final%20fantasy%20VI/eva243/Final_Fantasy_VI_Intro.jpg
http://lparchive.org/LetsPlay/Dirge%20of%20Cerberus/Update%2028/34-highwind.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_K5IIY6T5-v0/SxFerca7nFI/AAAAAAAAWSM/1BLPDASyA6s/s400/FFVII-MidgarZolom_Death.jpg
http://i.testfreaks.com/images/products/600x400/234/final-fantasy-vi-advance-gba.1515754.jpg
http://www.wikisquare.com/_media/ff6/personnage/locke.jpg

The excessive extravagance in these newer entries is killing me...
Don't play them then?

Seriously, all the fanboys crying about the last five games not being exactly like the first seven is getting old.

[Vyk]

Its hardly fanboyism to have a preference

Not to mention the point of the thread is to criticize certain aspects of the series lol :P

[Breine]

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/thumb/7/75/Malboro_%28FFIX%29.jpg/200px-Malboro_%28FFIX%29.jpg

YES!

[Mirage]

I want just about everything in the "do not want" section of Silentenigma. What exactly is it you dislike? Things looking good, or sci-fi/near future settings?

virus in ff9 was pretty annoying, so are really small obstables that somehow totally block the path of the main characters.

[Rad Bromance]

Its hardly fanboyism to have a preference

Not to mention the point of the thread is to criticize certain aspects of the series lol :P
True, but it's extremely fanboyish to whine about changes to new installments of a series as if you're being forced to play them. If it's "killing" you, then why keep playing them?

So yeah.

[silentenigma]

Its hardly fanboyism to have a preference

Not to mention the point of the thread is to criticize certain aspects of the series lol :P
True, but it's extremely fanboyish to whine about changes to new installments of a series as if you're being forced to play them. If it's "killing" you, then why keep playing them?

So yeah.

Awh, you guys don't have to fight over little old me!
Really though. What am I a fanboy of again? I guess I put FFVI and VII in there a little too much, but it's not like I hate the newer ones or anything that isn't steampunk. Here's my ranking of favorites when it comes to FF:

VII, VI, IX, IV, XII, VIII, X, II, V, I, III.

Love them all. Can't stand the tendency for the new ones to spam amazingness just about everywhere, though - It looses the charming effect for me. In FFVIII it was fine; Esther was awesome because it was nothing like anything else on the planet, and the Gardens were relatively unique as well.

But ever since Bevelle in FFX, it seems like just about every airship, building, machine, power-up, and gun has to be made out of some kind of weird, shiny, metallic design/architecture with colorful works of art all over. (Almost as if the developers are afraid it wouldn't be 'fantasy' enough without all that fluff.) Anyway, I'm glad they're going to shake things up a bit with FFvXIII where things don't look so... contrived. Does anyone feel me on this one?

And I guess I need to put a giant IMHO at the end of this

[VeloZer0]

But ever since Bevelle in FFX, it seems like just about every airship, building, machine, power-up, and gun has to be made out of some kind of weird, shiny, metallic design/architecture with colorful works of art all over. (Almost as if the developers are afraid it wouldn't be 'fantasy' enough without all that fluff.) Anyway, I'm glad they're going to shake things up a bit with FFvXIII where things don't look so... contrived. Does anyone feel me on this one?


I am totally with you on that one.

Since I posted I guess I have to throw mine out there. I'm going to go with the fan base I meet in real life. I come from a sport background, so most people I know aren't all that interested in video games, and most who are are are more into FPS stuff. Whenever I meet someone who has a similar taste in video games as I do they usually turn out to be fairly loser-ish. :( Doesn't make me feel good about myself.

[ANGRYWOLF]

to be called names.
To have your real life threatened because you disagree with someone about a game.
To be ridiculed because of your age.
To be ridiculed because you like to use ellipsis....
Ellipsis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipsis)

It's all happened to me on other FF forums.

I've since learned to keep most of my views to myself.
It's like the old Fleetwood mac song..I keep my visions to myself, for the most part.

:)

The gosh golly oh boy stuff.
I guess you kind of expect it when you see something wonderous.

The stadium at Luca.
When Auron climbed those steps I felt that sense of wonder.

I can see where you don't want that all the time but just at special moments.

[Mirage]

Thanks for telling us, but why?

I also think it's annoying that it's so easy to reach the damage cap, at least in the later games (excluding FF11).

[ANGRYWOLF]

Isn't that what this thread is about ?

shrugs.

Anything annoying that is FF related.

FF forums are FF related although we're not suppose to bash other forums.

There are a lot of gaming forums out there.Tons of them. A lot that are FF /Square enix only.

Things that annoyed me about FFX were the silly minigames you had to do to get the items and or celestial weapons.
The chocobo race.
The lightning dodge.
The butterflies ( red and blue) in the woods.
Those were seriously annoying.

[Mirage]

I guess they're technically related, it was just that it sounded like you were just looking for some sort of consolation or something. To me anyway.

[Loony BoB]

The delays between (most) major releases.

Vaan.

[Mirage]

Well, it's better than releasing incomplete games :p

[ANGRYWOLF]

I guess they're technically related, it was just that it sounded like you were just looking for some sort of consolation or something. To me anyway.

or consolation on a gaming forum.

Well most gaming forums.

I do have a friend who runs a gaming magazine that also has a forum and we have expressed sympathy to each other about personal issues.Her husband, who I use to correspond with years ago died and I expressed sympathy to her.
But that was an exception to the rule.

So I certainly wasn't looking for anything from any fans.

Just stating what had happened.

shrugs.

One of the most annoying things about FFXII for me was getting cuch in the sewers/waterways.
It must have taken me a dozen tries to beat him as his abilities kept killing my party.:)

[jammi567]

Yiazmat having over 50 million HP. That's not fun or tactical, that's just plain tediousness.

Where are Square Enix so facinated with resistance groups? There's at least three stories that feature them.

[Loony BoB]

Well, it's better than releasing incomplete games :p
I haven't got a problem with the reasoning, but it doesn't make it less annoying.

[black orb]

>>> Mastering some materia in FF7, it takes forever..:luca:

[Rebellious Eagle]

Confused status, bad breath, Chocobo races, and Vaan's lack of manly clothes. :|

[Fynn]

CloudxSephiroth, SquallxSeifer, SoraxRiku, etc. fangirls (and boys). Seiously, googling any of these guys may result in serious eye damage due to the yaoi overload.

[P4ine]

Non-existant gay relationships (As mentioned above, thanks)
Truly existant gay characters (Vaan, Seymour, Wakka, Vaan, The Emperor, Vaan and maybe CAPTAIN BASCH FON RONSENBERG OF DALMASCA)
Ondore's lies

Okay, getting serious:

Bad breath (especially when leveling up.. Everytime like "I haven't saved for three hours and it happens"... *sighs*)
Many FFX sidequests (Lightning dodge, chocobo race, 892348924 hours of Blitzball for Wakka's celestial weapon)
When enemies heal themselves
Being lost and getting involved into battles continuously

Can't think of any more, but there definitely are more.

[Bolivar]

Final Fantasy VI. I actually like the game; the fanbase is the most annoying of all time, though. They're always trying to shove down your throat that FFVI is the best, when they really only like it because it was their first RPG/FF/Video Game. They cosplay too much, too.

[arcanedude34]

People who say Sephiroth is overrated just to be "different" and piss off the nonexistent "fanboys who worship Sephiroth" and blah blah blah even though nobody likes him anymore. And I have to say, he's starting to wear on me too. Hey, Square? Don't put Cloud or Sephiroth in another game. Like, ever. Seriously. They were good characters at first, but you really messed them up. I'm sick of them.

[Goldenboko]

The general fanbase.


A big portion of FFVI's fanbase.


The vast majority of FFVII's fanbase.



A big portion of FFVI's fanbase.

Oh you must mean VII.

Confuse and Disease are the far most annoying status affects, but it's all good as it makes the game harder.



Oh you must mean VII.

No, I mean VI.


Final Fantasy VI. I actually like the game; the fanbase is the most annoying of all time, though. They're always trying to shove down your throat that FFVI is the best, when they really only like it because it was their first RPG/FF/Video Game. They cosplay too much, too.


Here at EoFF, we're one big, happy, united community :jess:

Trying to 100% games that are not meant to be 100%-ed.

EDIT:
Non-existant gay relationships (As mentioned above, thanks)
Truly existant gay characters (Vaan, Seymour, Wakka, Vaan, The Emperor, Vaan and maybe CAPTAIN BASCH FON RONSENBERG OF DALMASCA)
Ondore's lies

God, I hate those too.

[Forsaken Lover]

Chac (FFX-2 optional boss) being able to Petrify you even when you're Stoneproof.

[Karifean]

Bad Breath
Dark Yojimbo's "Zanmato"
200 Lightning Dodge
The "Cloud's Mind" part of FFVII (after my 1st playthrough)
HP-Expander
"Disease"-status
"Confuse" (especially since chars waste magic in FFVIII)
Chac's Petrifying Attack
Dark Yojimbo's "Kozuka"
FFX-2 Non-International
FFXII's battle system, liked ATB and CTB better...
Jumbo Cactuar escaping the battle in FFVIII
"Iron-Cutting Sword Counter" (Attack from Seifer)
Dark Yojimbo's "Daigoro"
"The End..."
Th'uban's counter attack
Dark Yojimbo's "Wakizashi"

[Rodney]

8's Junction System. Can't get it.

9's friendly monsters. Just very scary to me.

12's main story being way too short.

Cloud Strike and Squall Leonhart. My two least favorite FF protagonists EVER.

[Imperfectionist]

ARGH LIGHTNING DODGE!!
I don't even know what's more annoying, the fact that some idiot thought that it was actually a good idea to include this in the game, or when you've done like 150 dodges and then you get hit by lightning and you have to start all over again :mad2:

Also the entire sport of Blitzball. What an abomination.

[Sephiroth]

Intolerant, ignorant and aggressive Sephiroth & Kefka fanboys.


nonexistent "fanboys who worship Sephiroth"...even though nobody likes him anymore.

Err...heh? I am a Sephiroth freak so I do more than just like him (freak - not fanboy, plus I love Kefka as well - rare combination) and I know many people who still like him.

[LunarWeaver]

The footprints Chocobos leave, but only when it's on sand.

[RedPouch]

CloudxSephiroth, SquallxSeifer, SoraxRiku, etc. fangirls (and boys). Seiously, googling any of these guys may result in serious eye damage due to the yaoi overload.
What's wrong with Yaoi? Anyways, despite my being gay I hate those couples as well, especially CloudxSephiroth.


Truly existant gay characters (Vaan, Seymour, Wakka, Vaan, The Emperor, Vaan and maybe CAPTAIN BASCH FON RONSENBERG OF DALMASCA)
How exactly are any of those characters gay? I get that this is just a bad joke, but it's in extremely poor taste.


Confused status, bad breath, Chocobo races, and Vaan's lack of manly clothes. :|
I hate how Vaan looks as well, but it's mostly because of his face. A masculine face with soft in it is nice in my opinion, but Vaan's face is just overboard, and he looks way too feminine in combination with his questionable clothing. It's basically like mixing a salty dish with... more salt, or pouring sugar into a milk shake. If Vaan had a more masculine/harder appearance in his hair and face, and perhaps a bit more muscle on his body, then the clothes might have been a good complement for those features I think.



A big portion of FFVI's fanbase.
Oh you must mean VII.
Yeah he meant VII. He's got that one condition that prevents him from being able to type VII fully.



Annoying:

The poorly designed FF VII Compilation from what I've played of it.
Yuffie.
Sephiroth.
Easily a majority of FF VII's fanbase.
Sephiroth fanboys.
Vaan.
80% of Dissidia's dialogue.

[Kyros]

- FFI -
--I wish they hadnt redone anything in this game when it was remade since I want to play it as it originally was (accessories didnt exist, difficulty was higher etc)

- FFII -
--LETS LV OUR SWORD SKILL BY BEATING EACH OTHER IN THE FACE WITH LONGSWORDS

- FFIV -
--twin strike or twin attack or w/e it was called sucked horribly (I know it wasnt in the original but I can still complain about it lol)
--dark blade or w/e cecil's dark knight ability was called was cool to have but made things easier than when playing the original where only the boss had it and cecil never had it

- FFVI -
--having to choose between ragnarok sword vs esper (more like I dont like having to choose lol)
--once terra is out of the party for a while she never felt like the main character ever again to me, felt like she was completely replaced by locke even though she was supposed to be still the main character

- FFVII -
--steriotypical fanbase
-- having to wait forever for chocobos being able to breed again
-- Barret, Cait Sith, Vincent why do you guys suck in combat
-- Aeris' lv2-3 limit breaks had 1 good one and 3 suck ones
-- people saying Aeris is the love interest

-FFVIII -
--my dragon spaceship is awesome!!!...but it goes too slow =/

- FFIX -
--battles taking a year and a half for enter/leaving them
-- having random characters off doing their own stuff instead of being with zidane so they get behind unless you work on keeping them lved (mainly garnet and steiner)
-- TRANCE TAKES WAY TOO FREAKING LONG TO BUILD UP ONLY TO GO OFF AT THE END OF COMBAT
-- pos worthless crappy pushover Ozma
-- I still don't believe Kuja is a dude

- FFX -
--having to wait on lightning bolts even though it takes 1 whole try to get them all
--wish rikku could hit for crap
--auron was good for a while but by end game the only thing that made him good was the fact his ultimate weapon had 'initiative'
--it was a dead giveaway about auron's past when you first visit the farplane (do you see what I did there)
--AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! LETS LAUGH HAHAHAHAHA!!!
--Tidus why are you so orange?

- FFX2 -
--retarded story, fun to play, w/e

- FFXI -
--hate rage hate rage bad mmo

- multiple titles or random things that don't fit to particular titles -
--bad breath sucked to get hit buy in most of them, but in some of the titles it didnt really do anything threatening (pretty sure it was IX where it wouldnt be an autodeath but can't remember)
--the random need for SE or anyone to want to link titles to one another in story (unless otherwise expected, ie X and X2 are related duh but whats the point in saying VII and X are in the same universe? that has nothing to do with anything and has no bearing on anything at all) *biggs/wedge and other names dont count since theyre just recurring names and not really linking stories :P
--blue magic almost always sucks imo (not all the spells but most of them)...well now that I think about it in some titles magic is almost completely useless altogether with the exception of a few select spells (magic mainly sucks in VII and VIII juctioning not counted b/c addressing magics uses in battle in this statement)
--people comparing the junction system and materia systems
--I would like a difficulty setting in more of these to make them harder
--if youre older than 18-20 then youre not good enough b/c you dont get to save the world like these random teenagers

[Momiji]

Final Fantasy VI. I actually like the game; the fanbase is the most annoying of all time, though. They're always trying to shove down your throat that FFVI is the best, when they really only like it because it was their first RPG/FF/Video Game. They cosplay too much, too.

You just defined the FFVII fanbase at the exact same time.

[PuPu]

Final Fantasy VI. I actually like the game; the fanbase is the most annoying of all time, though. They're always trying to shove down your throat that FFVI is the best, when they really only like it because it was their first RPG/FF/Video Game. They cosplay too much, too.

The EXACT same thing as this, except I'm directing it to FFVII, where it's far truer than for FFVI.

FFVII fanboys often love saying that it's not only the best FF ever, or the best RPG ever, but the best video game, ever. And then the really hardcore fanboys whine about how FFVII is over-hated.

And I'm willing to bet there are far more Sephiroth and Cloud cosplayers than any other FF character cosplayer.

Plus I don't actually like the game.

[VeloZer0]

And then the really hardcore fanboys whine about how FFVII is over-hated.

I don't even think it is necessarily the best in the series, but I do think it is very much over-hated.

I'm going to follow Kyros's lead and go game by game.
FFI
- Paying to save my dam game!

FFII
- Having to constantly worry about how every move I make in battle will affect my stats

FFIII
- (DS Only) having to battle half a dozen battles with a new class before you can even start evaluating it.

FFIV
- Having all the people who were offed come back at the end, cheapening their sacrifice.

FFV
- Krile's sprites

FFVI
- Monsters who steal from you.

FFVII
- Not being able to land the Highwind close to Cosmo Canyon

FFIX
- Bahamut being really weak. (Even with 99 Garnets)

FFX (I'll stay away from how the plot/characters as a whole aggravated me)
- Having to recruit people to my blitzball team.

FFT
- Mindflay!!!!

And for the series as a whole:
Having underage characters with no combat background become amazing heroes! (I'm not so much hung up on the underage as the no combat background. If you are 18 and have been raised as a hardcore warrior since you could walk, then that is legit.)

[RedPouch]

Final Fantasy VI. I actually like the game; the fanbase is the most annoying of all time, though. They're always trying to shove down your throat that FFVI is the best, when they really only like it because it was their first RPG/FF/Video Game. They cosplay too much, too.
My friend and I look at bad cosplays quite often, and I rarely see anybody cosplay as any character from FF VI [I've seen it once in a while, but it's extremely rare]. I believe this is mostly because the characters were simplistic sprites, with limited exposure to the actual character designs, and most people who played this game don't have its instruction booklet [therefor, they don't even know the full scope of what the actual character designs look like]. However, I still see FF VII and FF VIII chars quite often. Aside from FF VII and FF VIII, most common cosplays are things like FF X, Tales games, Trigun, Naruto, InuYasha, Kingdom Hearts, Bleach, Fullmetal Alchemist, anything by CLAMP, and skanky cat girls that are actually overweight [in short, most of the generic/typical games/anime out there].

As for the FF VI fanbase, I don't really meet any people that try to cram down your throat that it's the best FF ever. For most people that played FF VI when it first came out, it usually wasn't their first RPG/FF. Most people that like it do speak well of it, but I've never seen anybody boast it as "OMG THIS THING IS THE smurfING BEST EVER" due to it being outdated in comparison to modern games graphics-wise, music-wise, and dialogue-wise, especially FF VII [this isn't modern, but it is far more than FF VI and usually ends up being compared with it].

I don't really know you that well, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but it sort of seems like this statement is trying to provoke a flame war or something. And it's true that I frown upon most things FF VII related, and that I like FF VI, however I'd hardly tote FF VI as the "best RPG ever" or whatever.


And I'm willing to bet there are far more Sephiroth and Cloud cosplayers than any other FF character cosplayer.
This is true from what I have seen.


- Having to constantly worry about how every move I make in battle will affect my stats
Hm, I don't think this is something you should have to worry about, though. Most anybody can just casually waltz through the game without doing much training, and the skills end up taking care of themselves. When I first played through it, I found it to be quite effortless and easy to just go through the game casually.


I don't even think it is necessarily the best in the series, but I do think it is very much over-hated.
You might be right. Truth be told, I actually do like FF VII. However, I think the mega-hate towards FF VII is stimulated by its annoying fanbase which in general seems to be quite unreasonable and lacks true foundation. Most things I see hyped about FF VII are quite generic and can not only be found in numerous RPG's out there, but also in excessive abundance. There are some reasons that motivate me to say that FF VII was in truth, actually a really good RPG. However, I almost never see these points touched on, so the irritation-level rises. I think most people that dislike FF VII are people like me, who used to like it but had it ruined for them by a certain fanbase. It only goes on to stimulate a feeling of "ugh.. god this game is so annoying to me now".

[Mo-Nercy]

Getting Tournasol for my girlfriend's FFXII save file because she "can't be bothered".

She missed Zodiac Spear too. I hope she doesn't find out you can get that late-game too and make me do it.

[VeloZer0]

- Having to constantly worry about how every move I make in battle will affect my stats
Hm, I don't think this is something you should have to worry about, though. Most anybody can just casually waltz through the game without doing much training, and the skills end up taking care of themselves. When I first played through it, I found it to be quite effortless and easy to just go through the game casually.


I wouldn't say it's game breaking at all, just annoying to me (well, the leveling system was game breaking imo, but thats a whole different story). It's a personal thing. It stresses me out knowing every action I take is affecting my stats in different ways, and all I can think about is how ever action will affect my stats instead of just playing th game. (As you may guess, I'm not a fan of WRPGs at all.)

[Raistlin]

She missed Zodiac Spear too. I hope she doesn't find out you can get that late-game too and make me do it.

Are you talking about the 0.1% chance or whatever of getting it if she opened one of the bad chests? If you do that then you are the most whipped person in history.

I think some of FFXII's ridiculousness (Zodic Spear, getting the Tournesol) that you really can't possibly get without some extra info or help is probably the most annoying to me.

[Sephiroth]

If you do that then you are the most whipped person in history.


There is an easy way to get the Zodiac Spear in this treasure chest for each character without trying it 9999999999999 times. But I do not know how to explain in english. I'll think about it and edit it here.

[Kyros]

Oh I forgot tactics - THOSE STUPID BATTLES WITH A GAZILLION RED CHOCOBOS AND YOU CAN'T RUN

[RedPouch]

Oh I forgot tactics - THOSE STUPID BATTLES WITH A GAZILLION RED CHOCOBOS AND YOU CAN'T RUN
I hated not having an airship for Tactics, especially during the part where you do the sidequest to get Cloud. I was also really annoyed by the fact that Cloud's powers took way too many turns to execute - what's the point?

[Mo-Nercy]

If you do that then you are the most whipped person in history.


There is an easy way to get the Zodiac Spear in this treasure chest for each character without trying it 9999999999999 times. But I do not know how to explain in english. I'll think about it and edit it here.
In theory it wouldn't take more than 1000 attempts to get it. xD


I've thought up some more annoyances:

- FFVII: Surrounded by six frogs
- FFVIII: Losing a rare card in Triple Triad whilst trying to win another rare card. You try to win it back, but you lose another one. After losing your main hand, you consider reseting but as you try to remember the last time you saved, you're not sure whether it was 5 minutes ago or 5 hours.
- FFIX: Going into Trance in a random encounter just before a boss fight.
- FFX: Other than the laughing scene ... dodging lightning bolts.
- FFX-2: Rikku's incestuous Brother.

[PuPu]

No, there is a way to manipulate the random number generator of the game which affects the chances of what you get in the Zodiac Spear chest, and there is a method to make it so that you drastically increase your chances.

I've seen it being talked about on GameFAQs several times, though I'm not exactly good at explaining what it does, nor do I know the exact specifics of the method.

[Mo-Nercy]

There is an easy way to get the Zodiac Spear in this treasure chest for each character without trying it 9999999999999 times. But I do not know how to explain in english. I'll think about it and edit it here.

No, there is a way to manipulate the random number generator of the game which affects the chances of what you get in the Zodiac Spear chest, and there is a method to make it so that you drastically increase your chances.

I've seen it being talked about on GameFAQs several times, though I'm not exactly good at explaining what it does, nor do I know the exact specifics of the method.
orly? Then thanks for the tip fellas. I'll look it up in a little bit.

Raistlin touched on this before, but one of the more annoying things about newer FFs is that secrets and bonuses can no longer be discovered by yourself. Take chocobo breeding in FFVII as an example, buy visiting the Chocobo Sage periodically, you can work out how to get a Gold Chocobo. But to get Zodiac Spear in FFXII, you have to not open four specific treasure chests. You don't know which chests and they just look like normal chests.

[Raistlin]

In theory it wouldn't take more than 1000 attempts to get it. xD

1) That's actually a common statistical fallacy. If you fail 999 times in a row, you're no more likely to find it the 1000th time than the first time. A 1 in 1000 chance simply means that if you do it enough, it'll average out to about 1 in 1000. That would not stop you from failing 5000 times in a row to start off.

2) That's still an assload of time and annoyance. As I said: whipped.

I have not heard of the probability manipulation trick mentioned previously, though.

[Sephiroth]

No, there is a way to manipulate the random number generator of the game which affects the chances of what you get in the Zodiac Spear chest, and there is a method to make it so that you drastically increase your chances.

I've seen it being talked about on GameFAQs several times, though I'm not exactly good at explaining what it does, nor do I know the exact specifics of the method.

Yes, I think that is the same thing I mean.

[Kyros]

I thought that the spear was easy to get as long as you dont open certain chests or something to that effect. Its in the strategy guide if you got that.

[qwertysaur]

No, that's the one that only appears if you don't open the trigger chests. In the Henne mines there is another chest that has an very low chance of having a Zodiac Spear in it in addition to the standard one.

[Raistlin]

I thought that the spear was easy to get as long as you dont open certain chests or something to that effect. Its in the strategy guide if you got that.

The point is that there's nothing to distinguish the "bad chests" from all of the others, and literally no way to either know about it or identify the chests without using a guide. Some people like to play a game without additional help, and it's basically impossible for them to have gotten the Zodiac Spear the first time through. Certain things will obviously be more difficult without outside information, but this part was impossible, which doesn't seem right.

[VeloZer0]

It was totally a legitimate way to increase the games life by 40 hours by forcing everyone to play through a second time.

[Goldenboko]

It was totally a legitimate way to increase the games life by 40 hours by forcing everyone to play through a second time.

If by totally legitimate you mean, illegitimate, unloved, bastard child, I completely agree with you! :)

[Croyles]

A big portion of FFVI's fanbase.

Oh you must mean VII.


IMO, a lot of the FFVI fanbase are just as annoying and blinded as the FFVII fanbase, just in a different way. Like a goth who thinks he or she is anti-comformist when in fact your just conforming to a sub-culture (not saying goths are annoying, and no offense to any goths btw)

But thats not what we're here about.

I would have to say, the true villains that appear in the last chapter of the game, a la Necron.

[Rase]

- FFIV -
--twin strike or twin attack or w/e it was called sucked horribly (I know it wasnt in the original but I can still complain about it lol)
--dark blade or w/e cecil's dark knight ability was called was cool to have but made things easier than when playing the original where only the boss had it and cecil never had it
Those were both in the original game (granted, Darkness was removed from the English version, but still).

I'm not a big fan of Dirge of Cerberus or Advent Children.

[Kyros]

I don't remember Cecil having that dark blade attack in the nes game, and when my friend was messing around on my gba he was like "WTF WHY DOES HE HAVE THIS?" seeing as how he didn't remember it ever being there either, which made the game much easier in the beginning.

[Vermachtnis]

I don't remember Cecil having that dark blade attack in the nes game, and when my friend was messing around on my gba he was like "WTF WHY DOES HE HAVE THIS?" seeing as how he didn't remember it ever being there either, which made the game much easier in the beginning.

First of all, SNes. And second of all, they dummied out a lot in the American release.

[qwertysaur]

Zodiac Spear is kinda like in X-2 if you don't give the awesome sphere to the Youth League in chapter 2 you can't episode complete everything in chapter 5, or the fact that if you Episode complete Zanarkand last you don't get the mascot dressphere. Both are low blows but the new game plus feature makes it not nearly as bad to get them in the next run :p

[oddler]

Voice acting in general.

I can read; you don't have to program sprites to sync up to bad speech recordings for me to be interested in the story. :choc2:

[Karifean]

Zodiac Spear is kinda like in X-2 if you don't give the awesome sphere to the Youth League in chapter 2 you can't episode complete everything in chapter 5, or the fact that if you Episode complete Zanarkand last you don't get the mascot dressphere. Both are low blows but the new game plus feature makes it not nearly as bad to get them in the next run :p

Sure you can Episode Complete everything in chapter 5 if you give the sphere to New Yevon. You don't even have to fight in Mushroom Rock Road to get an Episode Complete.

Yeah, that Zanarkand-bug was annoying. Well, something I found even more annoying is, that there were 2 Episode Completes in 3 regions (Calm Lands, Macalania, MRR) but to get Mascot, you still had to get the 'first' ones, the additional ones won't get you Mascot, only if you screwed up by completing Zanarkand as last one, they can save your Mascot.

[Goldenboko]

Voice acting in general.

I can read; you don't have to program sprites to sync up to bad speech recordings for me to be interested in the story. :choc2:

With FF, I'd agree, but other games use voice acting quite well.

[Bolivar]

Final Fantasy VI. I actually like the game; the fanbase is the most annoying of all time, though. They're always trying to shove down your throat that FFVI is the best, when they really only like it because it was their first RPG/FF/Video Game. They cosplay too much, too.

You just defined the FFVII fanbase at the exact same time.


The EXACT same thing as this, except I'm directing it to FFVII, where it's far truer than for FFVI.

FFVII fanboys often love saying that it's not only the best FF ever, or the best RPG ever, but the best video game, ever. And then the really hardcore fanboys whine about how FFVII is over-hated.

And I'm willing to bet there are far more Sephiroth and Cloud cosplayers than any other FF character cosplayer.

Plus I don't actually like the game.


My friend and I look at bad cosplays quite often, and I rarely see anybody cosplay as any character from FF VI [I've seen it once in a while, but it's extremely rare]. I believe this is mostly because the characters were simplistic sprites, with limited exposure to the actual character designs, and most people who played this game don't have its instruction booklet [therefor, they don't even know the full scope of what the actual character designs look like]. However, I still see FF VII and FF VIII chars quite often. Aside from FF VII and FF VIII, most common cosplays are things like FF X, Tales games, Trigun, Naruto, InuYasha, Kingdom Hearts, Bleach, Fullmetal Alchemist, anything by CLAMP, and skanky cat girls that are actually overweight [in short, most of the generic/typical games/anime out there].

As for the FF VI fanbase, I don't really meet any people that try to cram down your throat that it's the best FF ever. For most people that played FF VI when it first came out, it usually wasn't their first RPG/FF. Most people that like it do speak well of it, but I've never seen anybody boast it as "OMG THIS THING IS THE smurfING BEST EVER" due to it being outdated in comparison to modern games graphics-wise, music-wise, and dialogue-wise, especially FF VII [this isn't modern, but it is far more than FF VI and usually ends up being compared with it].

I don't really know you that well, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but it sort of seems like this statement is trying to provoke a flame war or something. And it's true that I frown upon most things FF VII related, and that I like FF VI, however I'd hardly tote FF VI as the "best RPG ever" or whatever.

Actually it was a joke because it's word for word verbatim what the FFVI fanbase cannot stop saying about FFVII. Funny how you guys all expressed it's the "exact" (using the exact word "exact") sentiment you all feel.

And Khalin I wasn't trying to start a flame war, I'd like to think I get a pass for all the years I've heard my fellow EoFFers express the sentiment.

My point though is that maybe we should all get along and accept that there are people who like FFVII for legitimate reasons, who didn't experience it as their first RPG, and who have qualified reasons for calling it the best game they've ever played.

Not me, of course. :ffvilaugh:

[VeloZer0]

My point though is that maybe we should all get along and accept that there are people who like FFVII for legitimate reasons, who didn't experience it as their first RPG, and who have qualified reasons for calling it the best game they've ever played.

Thank you :)

[PuPu]

Bolivar's obvious troll post was obvious.

I still would have said the same thing, regardless.

[RedPouch]

Actually it was a joke because it's word for word verbatim what the FFVI fanbase cannot stop saying about FFVII. Funny how you guys all expressed it's the "exact" (using the exact word "exact") sentiment you all feel.
I thought so but wasn't sure, I don't know you very well or what you're like, so I feel obligated to take it seriously regardless. However, I don't think would've responded much differently anyways. The reason being of course is that I've heard similar things from a few other people, so here's my chance to get it out in the open. There are still a few people I've met that actually think this.

Oh and for the record, I do in fact actually like FF VII despite the fact that's been completely ruined for me by nuisance fanboys and some of the compilation that I've watched my brother play.

[Mercen-X]

XI & XIV being exclusive to online play. I am brimming wid ze murderous rhahjzh. Arg.