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Shiny
01-24-2010, 06:42 AM
But one is the loneliest number that will ever dooo.

Matt Damon once said during an interview that there are few sequels in this world that are better than the first; one of which he said was the film, Godfather II. Although Final Fantasy II is not actually a sequel, do you think it's better than the very first Final Fantasy? Why or why not?

Del Murder
01-24-2010, 09:24 AM
No because the level up system sucked ass. The story was tons better though.

Also Terminator 2.

Roogle
01-24-2010, 09:35 AM
I played thirty minutes to an hour of Final Fantasy II shortly after I finished Final Fantasy for the first time.

I feel like Final Fantasy II was a bold step in a different direction. That being said, I think it may have been a step in the wrong direction judging by how few games with similar experience systems are out there.

I think it was an important milestone for the Final Fantasy series because it established that each game would be different from the next and inspire the innovation and creativity that brought us games like Final Fantasy IV and Final Fantasy VI. If this trend had not started, maybe Final Fantasy would have shared the same fate as the Dragon Quest series? Compare any of the Dragon Quest games. The variations in the gameplay are minor.

I preferred Terminator 2: Judgment Day to The Terminator, and I prefer Final Fantasy to Final Fantasy II.

Rantz
01-24-2010, 01:10 PM
No because the level up system sucked ass. The story was tons better though.

Also Terminator 2.

Yeah, I agree with all of this. :D

Vermachtnis
01-24-2010, 05:35 PM
I liked I and it's simplicity better. You got these four guys who went from point A to point B and beat the crap out of everything between. The customization for II was fun though and had nice boss music too.

Goldenboko
01-24-2010, 10:03 PM
2 years ago I got Dawn of Souls and finished FFI within a few weeks. I still haven't finished FFII. I guess my actions speak louder than my words would.

qwertysaur
01-25-2010, 04:04 AM
No. The level up system spoils the entire game for me :(.

Wolf Kanno
01-25-2010, 07:59 AM
I really don't mind FFII, I prefer FFI but to be fair, I've spent more time with FFI than II due to it being released out here. Since I'm building a FAQ, I may need to start a new game.

I was never bothered by the experience system, I actually enjoyed it on some occasions except when I decided to power level spells I don't even use...

RedPouch
01-25-2010, 04:19 PM
I honestly don't know why so many people don't like the skill-up system of FF II. It's really simple and honestly is not bad at all. I actually like the fact that they let your characters use any weapons you want. From my experience, you can just go through the game naturally [without having to do training sessions], and the skill-up system just ends up taking care of itself. I never had to struggle with any boss in particular either. The only hardcore leveling I'm doing is to level spells for Ultima, only because I'm curious to see how much damage it can dish out.

The story is also a heck of a lot more interesting than FF I as well.

Roogle
01-26-2010, 05:36 AM
The experience system of Final Fantasy II was probably too different than Final Fantasy to catch on with a lot of people. If you play it as a separate game without any attachments to Final Fantasy, then you may have a better experience with it.

Personally, I would have found it easier to play Final Fantasy II if I had not played Final Fantasy.

On the other hand, I think most people can agree that the story of Final Fantasy II is better than the story of Final Fantasy. The developers have mentioned before that the story of Final Fantasy II was created first and the gameplay was modeled after the story. This video, Final Fantasy Retrospective - Part 2 (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/22650.html), gives some more information on the early development of Final Fantasy II.

Zeromus_X
01-27-2010, 12:22 AM
Some of the things, like the dungeons and music, were better than the first game to me. But it's not one of the ones I'd really like to play again.

Shiny
02-03-2010, 08:45 PM
I do think the music in Final Fantasy II was a step-up from the first FF. In regards to the leveling system, the one FII was not necessarily awful, but it did have major loopholes. I do think the simple leveling up raising HP and MP in FFI is better. As for the story and characters, I can't really say much because I haven't completed Origins yet.

Hal Darkbad
02-03-2010, 09:19 PM
You people crazy. FFII stands strong in its own right as an FF.. and to say that 1 was bad is.. bad. If you think 1 is bad you're derelict in your duty as an FF fan. You either like it..or you make yourself like it. Or you're not allowed to play any final fantasies ever!!1:mad2: yes.. I went there.;)

If you play through 2 enough(not giving up 5 minutes after stepping out of Altea) you will realize it establishes many of the reoccurring themes that appear throughout the olde games(and sometimes spotted in the new).

Chocobos, lamias, behemoths, evil empires, dragoons, cid, all that good stuff started with this game. It's pretty much the most important installment - for the obvious reason that it would continue the series ad infinitum, but because it was the beginning of a lot more classic FF elements that would stay foreva.

Omni-Odin
04-20-2010, 05:59 PM
You people crazy. FFII stands strong in its own right as an FF.. and to say that 1 was bad is.. bad. If you think 1 is bad you're derelict in your duty as an FF fan. You either like it..or you make yourself like it. Or you're not allowed to play any final fantasies ever!!1:mad2: yes.. I went there.;)

If you play through 2 enough(not giving up 5 minutes after stepping out of Altea) you will realize it establishes many of the reoccurring themes that appear throughout the olde games(and sometimes spotted in the new).

Chocobos, lamias, behemoths, evil empires, dragoons, cid, all that good stuff started with this game. It's pretty much the most important installment - for the obvious reason that it would continue the series ad infinitum, but because it was the beginning of a lot more classic FF elements that would stay foreva.

And I totally agree :beer:

arcanedude34
04-23-2010, 01:57 AM
You know, the skills do level up fairly regularly. You can bop around Altair killing gobalins and every now and then your stats go up regardless of whether or not they should. The only things that actually depends entirely on your input are spells and weapons affinity.

That said, I can't say I liked this game over I. I like Firion as a main character, but pretty much everyone else is forgettable. The sheer uselessness of physical attacks against most bosses and later enemies in general bugs me, especially with the piss-poor amount of MP you start out with. The music is kick-ass though.

Brennan
04-24-2010, 04:43 PM
One had the better battle system, and better exploration (i.e., no superpowerful enemies that tell you that you strayed 3 steps too far from the water to get to Fynn)

II has the better story, and the leveling system had so much potential, but it fell short.

black orb
04-30-2010, 06:49 PM
>>> I love FF2 but nothing is better than the original FF, NOTHING!..:luca:

Pop Frank Socket
05-09-2010, 11:10 PM
I don'nt know what you guys are smoking when you say you don't like the level upsystem, I thought it was pretty kick ass how I could give somebody the weapon I wanted them to use and they would get better with it, although giving your character a good beating to up the defense was kind of silly...
Whateves I thought it kicked ass all around. I need to finish that game some time.

ReloadPsi
05-10-2010, 02:32 PM
Everyone's talking about how the level up system spoils the game, but what really kills it is the level down system. Nobody ever seems to mention that.

Crossblades
05-10-2010, 07:39 PM
Everyone's talking about how the level up system spoils the game, but what really kills it is the level down system. Nobody ever seems to mention that.

It seems to me that very little people have played the NES version since the level down feature was removed in later versions of the game and people played those versions instead. That's probably why no one has mentioned it.

Pop Frank Socket
05-11-2010, 01:29 AM
It seems to me that very little people have played the NES version since the level down feature was removed in later versions of the game and people played those versions instead. That's probably why no one has mentioned it.

I had honestly forgotten about that and thought ReloadPsi was making a joke.

The going too far on the map was a little dumb, but we all know how Square loved and still loves surprising players with pain. You all remember saying "hey what the hell is that red shlong sticking out of the sand over there?" and then BAM RUBY WEAPON TENTACLE FUN-TIME FOR YOU.