Alexander McQueen dead :(

[scrumpleberry]

one of various srcs
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8511115.stm)

I'm pretty upset about this. Okay so there are like no good brit fashion designers left now. Also he was only 40 which is like a baby in wrinkled leathery fashion crone diva terms. He was one of my faves :(

RIP.

[Bunny]

Who?

[Quindiana Jones]

He's a dude who made clothes for rich people. Apparently he was very good. It's not something I care about, though it's always a shame to see people who have a genuine talent die.

[Rantz]

Aw :( RIP.

[Miriel]

He's one of my favorite designers. No, I've never owned one of his designs and unless I become super rich one day, I probably never will. But I appreciated him for what he was, an incredible artist and a visionary. The stuff he could do with clothes, it was awe inspiring.

[Quindiana Jones]

Do you know of any particularly famous or brilliant work of his? It's difficult to get a good idea of what he's done when the first five million results on Google are about him dying.

[scrumpleberry]

Pretty much everything he designed was totally stellar. I hate the fact that I can only find bad quality clips of his shows! So I won't post any of them because you need HQ to see the quality of the clothes imo.

Well here's a clip of this hologram thing he did with Kate Moss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIcsYBZSQ48) which is more acceptable because it's part performance really.

I loved this one. (http://www.style.com/fashionshows/complete/S2010RTW-AMCQUEEN) Also there's his other collections down the bottom there.

Sort of summary thing (http://designmuseum.org/design/alexander-mcqueen)

I really really thought he was wonderful. This is such a dreadful thing to happen :( There'll probably be tonnes of tributes in the next month or so anyway, Quin, so if you're interested keep an eye out.

edit: just remembered something - Drew Barrymore wore (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FW86_jO7k_A/Sq60fXXCEBI/AAAAAAABMxY/X7_nAkxPFuA/s400/Drew%2BBarrymore%2BWhip%2BIt%2BToronto%2B4.jpg) one of his resort collection dresses (http://www.trendhunter.com/trends/drew-barrymore-at-tiff) to a premiere or something and like dyed the bottom of her hair, and I really thought she looked amazing. I think she wore it perfectly.

[Quindiana Jones]

He certainly seems to have a talent for presentation, though my knowledge of actual fashion show fashion is limited enough that I can't see any major difference between his works and others.

[scrumpleberry]

Also directed Bjork's video for Alarm Call (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXU8L-YRSNU)which was totally excellent. I seriously don't like Bjork's videos in general despite being a fan of her music but this was perfect.

God he was just getting more and more incredible every day. He could have done so much more. Arghghghghg :cry:

[Shiny]

Some people are just too sensitive for this world.

[Bastian]

I have difficulty mustering sympathy for suicide. Especially when it is done by a fashion designer who I'd never heard of. It is sad for the person's family, especially since the thing on yahoo news said that his mother had died not long ago . . . so now because of his selfishness they've lost two members of their family.

Dick.

[Miriel]

Some people are just too sensitive for this world.

I don't understand this comment.

No one knows why he felt he had to do what he did, but I'm sure the death of his mother last week and the suicide of his close friend and mentor had something to do with his own suicide. And struggling with the deaths of two people he truly cared about doesn't make him over sensitive. :o I find suicide to be extremely tragic. I can't even imagine being in a mental space where nothing seems better than dying and for someone so talented to go there... I dunno, I find that very unfortunate.

Anyway, I liked his haute couture work cause they were these amazing artistic creations, not so much wearable clothes.

http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq30/marrasmcqueen/mc%2006%20fw/00178L.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/2lD4b.jpg

So gorgeous.

[Aurey]

Totally a bummer, his stuff was always fantastic. RIP. ;{

[scrumpleberry]

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k274/scrumpleberry/71678_numero_tok15_subaquatic_be-1.jpg

What makes this the worst is that I genuinely feel that he was irreplaceable and had absolutely not reached the peak of his talent.

[NorthernChaosGod]

...you people like this stuff? :confused:


I have difficulty mustering sympathy for suicide. Especially when it is done by a fashion designer who I'd never heard of. It is sad for the person's family, especially since the thing on yahoo news said that his mother had died not long ago . . . so now because of his selfishness they've lost two members of their family.

Dick.

This.

[Rantz]

Guys, if you can't muster up an inch of respect for the guy, you're always free to not post. If that's too hard, at least refrain from direct name calling and sarcastic pot-shots. Thank you.

[Shiny]

Some people are just too sensitive for this world.

I don't understand this comment.

No one knows why he felt he had to do what he did, but I'm sure the death of his mother last week and the suicide of his close friend and mentor had something to do with his own suicide. And struggling with the deaths of two people he truly cared about doesn't make him over sensitive. :o I find suicide to be extremely tragic. I can't even imagine being in a mental space where nothing seems better than dying and for someone so talented to go there... I dunno, I find that very unfortunate.

I didn't imply I knew why he committed suicide, but suicide is an act of losing hope -- among other things. To surmise, some people can deal with their troubles and some people can't. Simply put. I'm not a fan of his clothes, but it's always unfortunate when someone young dies.

[Aurey]

Wow, some of these comments, so insensitive.

scrumpleberry: I agree, he didn't appear to be losing steam, he could have gone for so much longer I think. His stuff is gorgeous. He was one of a kind in the fashion world, so it's a huge loss. There really is not anyone out there doing stuff like he has: creating wearable works of art, literally. Ugh.

[Miriel]

...you people like this stuff? :confused:


I like creations of beauty, yes.

[Bunny]

I have difficulty mustering sympathy for suicide. Especially when it is done by a fashion designer who I'd never heard of. It is sad for the person's family, especially since the thing on yahoo news said that his mother had died not long ago . . . so now because of his selfishness they've lost two members of their family.

Dick.

The fact that you find suicide selfish speaks load of your own character. Have you ever had someone close to you commit suicide? If so, I find it hard to believe that your initial response would be to automatically label him a selfish dick. Suicide isn't about anyone else but the person who commits it. Though some might find it selfish, the actual pain or level of emotion that a person has to feel in order to find the will inside themselves to go against human nature is extraordinary. I'm not glorifying suicide, but saying that it is a selfish act is just beyond ignorant.

I didn't know the guy. I'm not a fashion aficionado by any means, my idea of a good outfit is jeans and a t-shirt. I do, however, see the artistic aspect of most of the pictures posted in this thread, and various things on Google after searching his name. In that way, he had talent.

[Momiji]

I didn't know anything about the guy, so I looked him up. What a shame, 'specially when his mom died a little more than a week ago. :(

[eestlinc]

Suicide isn't about anyone else but the person who commits it.
That is a big reason why some view suicide as selfish.

Anyway, it is sad.

[Bastian]

The fact that you find suicide selfish speaks load of your own character. Have you ever had someone close to you commit suicide?
Not successfully, but I've have three people very close attempt. One person so close it would be impossible for them to be any closer, if you catch my drift. And, yes, I find the act of suicide selfish. And I think a lot of people do.


Suicide isn't about anyone else but the person who commits it.
Um, that would be why I find it selfish. All said person is thinking of themselves and not how it will affect their loved ones. Selfish.

But that's not the topic of this thread.

I feel bad for his friends and family and fans.

[Breine]

Do you know of any particularly famous or brilliant work of his? It's difficult to get a good idea of what he's done when the first five million results on Google are about him dying.

He has worked a lot with Lady Gaga recently. I think he pretty much designed everything in the Bad Romance video or something? Other than that he's famous for working with Björk too.

Anyway, I've always liked his designs a lot, and found him immensely talented. Therefore it's sad to see him go - oh, and also because he was relatively young.

[charliepanayi]

Some of the comments here show just how much of a stigma is still attached to things like depression and mental illness. If you feel indifference to someone's death, that's fine, there's no law that says you need to feel sad about it. But expressing disdain for the person and bandying about terms like 'selfish' is rather unpleasant.

[line_genrou]

Well,I expect people that never felt depression to judge superficially on the matter.
It's one of those things that, "If I don't see it,I don't believe it".

[Bunny]

Um, that would be why I find it selfish. All said person is thinking of themselves and not how it will affect their loved ones. Selfish.

And most people (if not all) who have to deal with suicide spend more time wondering what they could have done differently instead of wondering why the hell the person killed themselves in the first place. The thinking that suicide is selfish is, in itself, selfish.

[nik0tine]

I have difficulty mustering sympathy for suicide. Especially when it is done by a fashion designer who I'd never heard of. It is sad for the person's family, especially since the thing on yahoo news said that his mother had died not long ago . . . so now because of his selfishness they've lost two members of their family.

Dick.How much MORE selfish is it to expect a miserable man to continue his miserable life just so the people around him don't suffer because he is gone? Yeah, it's way more selfish.

People like you are why he is better off dead. Dick. No.

[Rantz]

Come now, the topic of this thread isn't suicide, you're more than welcome to create another thread to discuss that. I'll be deleting any further off topic or jerk posts.

[scrumpleberry]

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k274/scrumpleberry/sl1kqe.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k274/scrumpleberry/s08rtwmcq.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k274/scrumpleberry/n34ytu.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k274/scrumpleberry/mcqueen.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k274/scrumpleberry/fal08rtwmcq.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k274/scrumpleberry/bowieearthingjackedmcqueen.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k274/scrumpleberry/alexander-mcqueen-spring-summer-200.jpg

Le sigh.

I'm sick of you guys being so rude.

[Bunny]

Come now, the topic of this thread isn't suicide, you're more than welcome to create another thread to discuss that. I'll be deleting any further off topic or jerk posts.

But.. but... he committed suicide, and this is thread discussing his death.. so.. this is a thread about suicide. I'm confused!


http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k274/scrumpleberry/n34ytu.jpg

I don't know what is going on in this picture, but that dress is lovely. So are the packaged meats!

[nik0tine]

I've got to say, those are some of the ugliest, most ridiculous looking clothes I have ever seen. Then again, I'm not really into that stuff so maybe I just don't 'get it'.

[Quindiana Jones]

You don't, nik, but it's not something to be bothered about. I've seen very few catwalk etc. pieces that actually looked that nice. xD

The point of them is usually something along the lines of modern art. Though not in some :bou::bou::bou::bou:ty cut-a-cow-in-half way, although there are certainly a few of those.

[scrumpleberry]

although there are certainly a few of those.

Which ones do you think are like that? Amongst the pieces posted here I don't see anything in the least bit insubstantial.

[Quindiana Jones]

Certainly a few of those in the biz, not in McQueens repertoire.

EDIT: HOYL CHRIST I JUST USED THE WORD REPERTOIRE.

[NorthernChaosGod]

I've got to say, those are some of the ugliest, most ridiculous looking clothes I have ever seen. Then again, I'm not really into that stuff so maybe I just don't 'get it'.

This will be one of the few things I'm glad not to understand.

[Miriel]

Yeah, you don't get it. Now shoo away.


http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k274/scrumpleberry/sl1kqe.jpg

STUNNING.

[DK]

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k274/scrumpleberry/71678_numero_tok15_subaquatic_be-1.jpg


all other things aside, I don't really see how someone can look at this and not think "fucking awesome". She looks like a Summon or something, it is sick. I would totally rock that dress.

[Madame Adequate]

I used to not get fashion like this but then I realized, derp, it's not about making clothes to wear*, it's about making clothes that look completely badass like you are a summon like Dan said, so now I do get it and some of his stuff is great :jess:

* It's kind of like complaining that a Monet painting doesn't serve as a technical blueprint for building a car.

[Rantz]

Loving the two recently quoted pics. Also totally wowzers is this:

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/8519/alexandermcqueenparisfa.jpg

Edit: Also is this woman walking on stilts or just freakishly tall for her figure

[Momiji]

As totally impractical as they look, some of these dresses are gorgeous.

[Miriel]

There's two different kinds of fashion, avant garde and ready-to-wear. Ready-to-wear is obviously just as it sounds, clothes meant to be sold in mass production and worn by people everywhere. Avant garde fashion CAN'T be mass produced. They're individually crafted works of art. What happens when a designer creates these amazing designs is that later, they're translated to more mainstream wear.

Project Runway did a couple challenges like this, create an avant garde look, and translate it to ready-to-wear.

http://www.afterelton.com/sites/www.afterelton.com/files/pr408img02.jpg

Alexander McQueen was so popular because he really was an incredible artist. He pushed boundaries, did things visually with clothes that other people weren't doing.

[scrumpleberry]

Dammit why can't I find any photoshoots :(

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k274/scrumpleberry/00420m.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k274/scrumpleberry/00070m.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k274/scrumpleberry/18m.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k274/scrumpleberry/sl1kqe-1.jpg

I am so proud of MILF and DK. We've learned something today :)

[Moon Rabbits]

I only knew about him because he worked with Bjork. The dresses in this thread though are fucking CRAZY. Especially this :bou::bou::bou::bou:!! Mind blowing!!:


Yeah, you don't get it. Now shoo away.


http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k274/scrumpleberry/sl1kqe.jpg

STUNNING.

[Rye]

He's an absolutely amazing designer. His use of color is just breathtaking. Just struggling to learn on my sewing machine how to make small things makes my jaw drop at how people can make these things come together and work.

Haute Couture to me is about testing the limits of what a person can do with fabric, thread and needle, and beautiful color. It's not supposed to be practical to wear. It's supposed to be jaw-dropping.

[Vyk]

Hm, unfortunately I was only led to this thread via the now official suicide thread. But now that I'm here and learned his work. I'm really quite mesmerized. I love what he did with fluffy and twirly things and gradients and textures/props (I like how that one dress looks like an upside down tulip, and this (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k274/scrumpleberry/71678_numero_tok15_subaquatic_be-1.jpg) blows me away)

My condolences scrumples, and his fans :[

[Shiny]

Dammit why can't I find any photoshoots :(
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k274/scrumpleberry/00070m.jpg


I am so proud of MILF and DK. We've learned something today :)

Ooo, I like that outfit. It would be cool if the dress part was more of a vibrant color though. Some of his stuff is aight, but some of it I think is atrocious. Though I can see why fashionistas look up to him and why his death is such a tragedy. It's always unfortunate when talented people die.

[Crop]

Ok, I've never really understood this kind of fashion. Every catwalk thing I've seen I've thought "That just looks stupid, who would wear that".

But what it's supposed to be is art? Because that would make much more sense.
Wouldn't that make him an artist though? It's hardly clothes fashion, I know I would never want to be seen in that stuff....if I was a girl.

[Miriel]

Fashion designers are artists. Just like photographers are artists, so are musicians, painters, composers, etc.

[Crop]

Fashion designers are artists. Just like photographers are artists, so are musicians, painters, composers, etc.

Ah I see. I suppose it's just because I know nothing about the fashion world. I always associate "fashion designers" with new clothes that people wear.