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Freya
03-22-2010, 05:30 PM
I've never played this game. I hear that Kefka is a bamf and the evilest of the baddies though.

I'm interested in this game merely for that so enlighten me without spoiling it much what makes kefka the best baddie.

Flying Mullet
03-22-2010, 05:49 PM
He's one of the main villians who kills without purpose, solely for the purpose of killing as he enjoys the screams of agony from those he causes pain to. Just about every other villian has some motive behind their actions, a "the ends justify the means" if you will. Kefka doesn't have that. He's just bat:bou::bou::bou::bou: insane.

Omni-Odin
03-22-2010, 05:58 PM
Agree and disagree. People who extremely like VI and Kefka, normally go and say a game like XIII has a linear story. I think we all know who was gonna be startin trouble in FFVI. I liked the game a lot, but Kefka was kind of a joke to me. He was basically a jester with high authority, killing like John Wayne Gacy. I'm sorry, but it's hard for me to take a clown all that serious. If he wasn't a clown, he'd definitely be up there for one of the top "baddies".

Mullet, you say he kills with no real purpose. I think he kills with the same purpose as someone like Sephiroth: To control a world where he is all-powerful. (I know Seph had a couple other reasons, but it's the basics)

Freya
03-22-2010, 07:21 PM
I've heard the insane thing. I felt that sephy was more of a goal oriented guy though. So how do they really match up? I mean is he similar to Seph or what?

VeloZer0
03-22-2010, 07:28 PM
Game is well worth playing even without Kefka being such an awesome bad guy.

Can't say much more about him without spoilers, but lets just say he experiences somewhat more of a degree of success than most fictional villains.

NeoCracker
03-22-2010, 08:59 PM
Kefka is awesome in that what he does is truly dispicable, and you can tell by his dialogue he relishes in all the pain and suffering he causes.

He may be far from an in depth villain, but he succeeds in a place most villains fail, you want to beat him. As I player, I felt the need to put an end to what he was doing.

Villains like Sephiroth, Ex-Death, and really all FF Villains outside of Kefka and Kuja fail to capture this feeling. Sure, in context of the story you feel they need to fall, but outside of these two I never personally felt the need for their defeat.

That is where Kefka excels best

blackmage_nuke
03-23-2010, 07:40 AM
It's all about the laugh

Jessweeee♪
03-24-2010, 12:31 AM
He is very silly. Probably the only villain to make me actually laugh xD

Freya
03-24-2010, 01:24 AM
So it's not just "Oh I'm evil MUHAHAHA" But he's actually entertaining? Is it funny like he says funny things or just how he acts?

Imperfectionist
03-24-2010, 01:52 AM
I've literally only played a little bit into this game but I remember at the beginning where he's walking through some desert with two guys and he's like 'Ahem. THERE IS SAND ON MY SHOE!' or something to that effect. Made me lol.

Edge7
03-24-2010, 02:49 AM
Kefka: He's silly, he makes sing-song rhymes as he accomplishes his goals, he kills multitudes of people for the fun of it, he has his own cult that does nothing but run around in circles all day, AND he reminds you why you were scared of clowns. Gotta love him :jess:.

bipper
03-24-2010, 03:24 AM
Sephiroth wants to become a God when it comes down to it. Kefka wants to become more than a God.

Sephy wants to be the one that kills the tangible and dominates the world.

Kefka wants to destroy the intangible - Hope, dreams, love... he wants them dead. No spoilers here, but Kefka is by far the most successful in his ventures.

Emperor Ghestal is all like "Lets conquore - lets rule. I wanna be an overlord pansy bitch like Sephiroth. Nya. Nya. Nya." And kefka is like "FUFUFUFUFUFUFU old timer! I'm more evil! /win"

And right about there is when I climax. The story goes a bit further, but alas, my epic stamina can only go so long.

Jiro
03-24-2010, 04:17 AM
Kefka is quite eccentric. At first he just seems a little bit weird and evil, but as he progresses you see that he is really screwed in the brain somewhere.

As a character, he's kind of flat, but he is one of the most entertaining and down right evil villains ever.

Wolf Kanno
03-25-2010, 02:34 AM
Mullet, you say he kills with no real purpose. I think he kills with the same purpose as someone like Sephiroth: To control a world where he is all-powerful. (I know Seph had a couple other reasons, but it's the basics)

I completely disagree. Kefka had really no desire to control the world, it just sorta fell into his lap. The only thing he enjoyed doing from the moment he was introduced until the end of the game was just murder and destroy everything. Sephiroth ultimately wanted to become a god by destroying the planet, Kefka became a god and decided existence was utterly meaningless so his last action as god was to annihilate everything until the party put a stop to it.

Kefka is also the only villain to take pure pleasure out of the suffering of others and he does so indiscriminately. Whereas other viallins always had a focus for their rage (Cecil, Cloud, Zidane, etc...) Kefka seriously just kills people cause he enjoys murdering and torture. Every other villain always had some "end justifies the means" excuse for their actions. Golbez destroyed countless kingdoms to get the crystals and manipulated Cecil and Kain to do it for him, Ex-Death destroyed countless cities that were the strongholds of the forces opposing his plans, Sephiroth killed anyone who got in the way of his plan or used it as a means to keep Cloud and party on his trail, Kuja killed people to draw out the power of the Eidlions and Trance so he could defeat Garland and most of the other villains have similar reasoning behind their evil actions.

Kefka tries to burn down the capital of an ally kingdom just to retrieve a fugitive, beats the living crap out of two espers who were already dying just for the fun of it, burns down Thamasa and murders countless villagers and his own "comrades" just for the fun of it despite having little to do with his mission of retrieving Magicite. He keeps the entire world in a state of constant fear as he rules like an evil god destroying entire villages on a whim. He says even himself that destruction is pointless if precious lives are not lost. No other villain shows this much maliciousness in either their actions or their dialogue. He kills simply cause he enjoys it and has no real desire beyond that.

Kefka is amusing cause he's both a terribly malicious villain but also very likable. He'll make you laugh at least once which is more than all the other villains who take themselves seriously can say. I think that's what makes him a good villain, he's still an evil SOB but he's also very likable. How else do you explain how he has a cult in real life despite being in a game that doesn't have the sheer numbers of the later PS entries.

While he certainly is not the best villain in the series, I definetly feel he's one of the better villains. His backstory is incredibly simplistic though it hints at untold tragedy but serious lack of details makes him come across as a simpler villain compared to other FF villains.

qwertysaur
03-29-2010, 08:10 AM
Kefka is crazy. He also is one of the best villains because he has some great lines.
SON OF A SANDWORM
THERE'S SAND ON MY BOOTS

theundeadhero
04-02-2010, 12:46 AM
Son of a sandworm is nonsense.
It's son of a submariner!

Sephiroth
04-02-2010, 04:21 AM
SON OF A SANDWORM


Submariner.

This is sickening. You sound like a page from a self-help booklet.

Welcome to my barbeque.

Skyblade
04-03-2010, 05:03 PM
Don't be so hard on him. Not everyone got to play the SNES version. The GBA change to that line may have been unnecessary butchery of classic dialogue, but it is all some people saw.

theundeadhero
04-04-2010, 11:14 PM
Oh, I was just expressing my preference. I wasn't trying to say he was wrong or anything.

blackmage_nuke
04-05-2010, 01:20 AM
Theyre practically the same line. Had submariner been in the GBA version and Sandworm been in the snes version we'd all probably be argueing pro sandworm. Are there even any submarines in FFVI?

Kawaii Ryűkishi
04-05-2010, 02:45 AM
There's the diving helmet, which four people can apparently use at once.

But "submariner" is more befitting Kefka's mad persona because it fits the situation while being a more unwieldy and unexpected word choice.

qwertysaur
04-05-2010, 03:25 AM
Son of http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm163/qwertyxsora/LandWorm.gif is still quite crazy though, in a grotesque way :p

demondude
04-05-2010, 11:05 AM
That is definitely a rotting phallus.