Eleventh Doctor (Spoilers for all episodes shown in UK) [Archive]

blackmage_nuke

04-13-2010, 12:16 AM

Has anyone made a thread on this yet? My appologies if so.

I think Matt Smith and Karen Gillan are doing very well. Not a fan of the bowtie though, makes him look like a waiter. But maybe thats a metaphor about how he serves humanity. At first when I heard Steven Moffat would be the new writer I was abit sceptical as I wasnt really a fan of the Library episode or the Clockwork robots but so far i havent been disapointed.

What are your opinions?

edit: also who do you think Amy is engaged to? It heavily implies Rory but they might try to surprise us.
edit 2: I hope it's the master :p

Psychotic

04-13-2010, 12:28 AM

I am actually a huge fan of the two episodes you mentioned Moffat wrote so I've been fired up for this series. I really liked the moral choice in the recent one, even if Amy deus ex machina'd her way out of it. Good stuff.

Although then I saw there were sodding Daleks in the next episode. Yes, I get they're great merchandising tools, but they just bore me to tears now. And every time they do appear it makes the ending of the Time War seem more and more pointless. I mean, the show makes a big deal out of how he is the Last of the Time Lords in every smurfing episode and yet the Daleks show up every five minutes making his sacrifice worthless.

Christ, look at me complain! I still love Doctor Who to pieces and I cannot stress this enough. :) (just no more Daleks, please!)

demondude

04-13-2010, 12:38 AM

i thought churchill was more slurred with his speech and having him is weird but pretty cool actually. makes the show british, matt is good.

PeneloRatsbane

04-13-2010, 12:46 AM

I love Matt, he's adorable and i find him less irritating than David Tennant (who i did love but had some seriously sucky episodes).
The assistant is gorgeous! they work very well together, can't wait to see more. I don't like the new look they've given River Song tho, she looks ridiculous and a lot older

blackmage_nuke

04-19-2010, 08:15 AM

"WOULD YOU CARE FOR SOME TEA!?" :D

Last episode was pretty good but im not sure about the new Dalek Power Rangers

Quindiana Jones

04-19-2010, 08:29 AM

Amy Pond is fit.

And the Library episode is glorious. Girl in the Fireplace is one of the best Doctor Who episodes ever. You, sir, fail at knowing good stuff. :colbert:

So yeah. Moffat is a god. Was Blink his as well? Probably. He's a genius.

I'm with Psy on the whole "smurfING DALEKS" thing, but I can understand it I guess. And it looks, at least, to be an interesting use of them (haven't seen the episode yet).

Matt is okay. He's not as good as Tennant at being pissed off because it all just sounds toffy. I'm not sure if that's his acting or simply his voice/accent. But he's good at being absolutely mental, which is when I like the Doctor best.

Madame Adequate

04-19-2010, 10:40 AM

Amy Pond is fit.

So yeah. Moffat is a god. Was Blink his as well? Probably. He's a genius.

Yes, and yes.

Need to watch the new one later. I'm not a big fan of Doctor Who because I can't STAND all this deus ex machina stuff (Seriously you're complaining about realizing an old dude was nice in a show where people clapped their hands because they believed and it turned Gollum into Jesus?) But it's fun enough on those occasions I can sufficiently deactivate my brain.

BarelySeeAtAll

04-19-2010, 10:58 AM

I don't like any of them, and I keep trying to give him a chance but I can't. And the woman assistant person is bloody annoying; she has the same damned wide-eyed look and it's MADDENING.

Both = ugh.

Though I've been off D.W since Eccleston..or whatever his name wants to be.

Quindiana Jones

04-19-2010, 11:21 AM

I admit, Pond is always surprised.

blackmage_nuke

04-19-2010, 11:42 AM

I kept getting the feeling the Library episode was trying to scare me but I just wasnt scared. Not as mucha s Blink anyway which I did enjoy.

And I also dislike the use of Deus ex Machina, particularly when he points his sonic screwdriver at something and it miraculously works.

*Devore*

04-19-2010, 01:16 PM

I think that both of them are pretty good, although I do feel like Matt version of the doctor that much. Its like hybrid of Tennants and one of the old doctors. Maybe he he will make it his own later in the series.
Also....he has no eyebrows........

Psychotic

04-19-2010, 01:26 PM

Jiro

04-19-2010, 01:33 PM

Amy Pond is fit.

Matt is okay. He's not as good as Tennant at being pissed off because it all just sounds toffy. I'm not sure if that's his acting or simply his voice/accent. But he's good at being absolutely mental, which is when I like the Doctor best.

Thank you for posting my opinion, it saves me the effort.

Quindiana Jones

04-19-2010, 01:46 PM

And the Library episode is glorious. Girl in the Fireplace is one of the best Doctor Who episodes ever. You, sir, fail at knowing good stuff. :colbert:100% smurfing agreed with all of this. Girl in the Fireplace is probably my favourite episode. Rewatched Blink and the Library dual parter the other day too and they were as good as I remember. He also did the fantastic Empty Child in series 1 of new Who so everything he does turns to gold. :love:

The thing about the Daleks is that when there are huge armies of them like in a fair few of the finales, it's just smurfing stupid and not remotely scary. When there's just a couple of them and they're desperate they make much better villains.

also "You are the Daleks! YOU ARE EVIL! *smashes with giant wrench*" "YOU DO NOT RE-QUIRE TEAAAAA?" :lol:

I had the Empty Child in the back of my mind whilst thinking about Moffat (boy if someone walked in on this conversation now :blush:). All the best episodes of Who are all Moffat. The man needs a shrine installed in every...well, where.

Agreed on Daleks. For some reason, there is a negative correlation between the intelligence of Daleks and the amount of Daleks in the same place at one time. One Dalek seems to be able to give the Doc a run for his money, yet when there are infinitybillion of them, he wipes them away like some monotone cumshot. GRAGH.

Madame Adequate

04-19-2010, 02:57 PM

Greatest Dalek episodes are definitely the ones where there's just one or a handful, like Dalek and Daleks in Manhattan.

*Devore*

04-19-2010, 02:59 PM

I don't like the Daleks anymore, mostly its because they reuse them over and over and over and over again. They're like a virus, unless you get all of them, they'll just keep coming back.

I'm looking forward to the next episode because Blink was one of the best episodes and the only one to get me even slightly scared.

Crop

04-20-2010, 12:47 AM

I'm a big Doctor Who fan, I really enjoy the show.

I like this new guy, I felt in his first episode there were a couple of parts where he acted a little like Tennant and I was thinking "Oh God, don't do that, it's stupid", but now I think he's coming into his own.

Now, my opinion on the Daleks is HUGE. From the top, when they originally started coming back (in these new episodes I mean, I wasn't alive for the originals), I loved them - I rank(ed) them in my top 10 bad dudes of all time. I loved how everyone, including the Doctor, reacted with fear. It was like "Woah, even The Doctor is papping his pants, these guys are supa kewl".

But then they kept bringing them back, again and again and I reached my ultimate end of respect for the way the Daleks were written when The Doctor was just prancing around pushing buttons making them spin around in a comical fashion going "waaaahhh". I mean come on, they just degraded the super villains of Doctor Who.
Another thing I didn't like was the way they kept saying "Now the Daleks have gone...for good!" but they kept coming back, kinda defeated the purpose of him beating them - everyone knew they would be back.

In conclusion, I liked how they were handled in this episode. I did go into it holding my head in my hands in sadness, but I thought it was done quite well. I also like the fact that they didn't try to fool everyone into thinking they were gone...and this time for realzees! I think I can get over the fact that they're rainbow too.

Madame Adequate

04-20-2010, 02:49 AM

It really is like Superman beating Lex Luthor by throwing pies in his face.

Skyblade

04-20-2010, 03:27 AM

I've only seen the first episode (and I am avoiding spoilers on the second, so I'm not reading most of this thread), but I have conflicted feelings about Matt Smith. The guy can act, there is no doubt about that, but I still just get the feeling that he is too young to be the Doctor. Previous Doctors could command the respect of everyone around with a look. Matt Smith is just too young for that aspect of the character.

Loony BoB

04-22-2010, 03:53 PM

I agree with the consensus regarding Daleks, and I'm glad they've got them out of the way in the last episode. Now we can focus on better things. Looking forward to the return of the angels but even more so looking forward to the expanding of the theme of cracks in time which is going on right now.

EDIT: And definitely agree that Karen Gillan is hot.

Skyblade

04-22-2010, 05:09 PM

Actually, I'm really hating the cracks in time plot. One of my biggest problems with the Doctor Who reboot is that idiotic plot device. They take something about the final episode of the season, and sprinkle it through every episode before it. It was fine when they did it once. Now they're working on the fifth time. The mechanic is old and boring, guys, find a new one.

Season 1: Bad Wolf
Season 2: Torchwood
Season 3: Vote Saxon
Season 4: Images of Rose, and the Doctor/Donna
Season 5: Cracks in Time

Really? Really?! How many more times are you going to do this?

Loony BoB

04-22-2010, 06:45 PM

So long as they tie in with a story at the end then I don't see the problem. I don't think images of Rose had anything to do with the theme last time around - it was, for me at least, always to do with "the stars are going out" and "there's something on your back."

EDIT: Oh, and the "Knock four times" thing.

Psychotic

04-22-2010, 07:02 PM

The Lonely God/Angel was the best buzzphrase. Although it never really built into anything. Maybe the Master, I suppose, although it did take two series.

Quindiana Jones

04-24-2010, 09:18 PM

Enjoyed the Time of Angels episode. Though I was annoyed at the dead bodies at first, they hinted at an explanation so I'll get over it.

Psychotic

04-24-2010, 09:23 PM

I was sure Bob was Neville Longbottom. (he wasn't, I checked)

PeneloRatsbane

04-24-2010, 09:32 PM

that bit where all that dust came out Amy's eye creeped me out lol.

I had a well weird dream that there was an episode set in Ikea with a Vashta Nerada-esque threat, and the only way to defeat it and save Amy was for the Doctor to lick her, was strange but I randomly remebered about it when he bit Amy lol.

Psychotic

04-24-2010, 09:38 PM

That would probably be an improvement on the average Russell T. Davies episode :p

Quindiana Jones

04-25-2010, 12:26 AM

Hey! Russell T. Davies.....nope, fair point.

Madame Adequate

04-26-2010, 01:42 AM

The scene with the angel in the recording is by far the scariest most hide-behind-the-couch moment Who has ever done for me.

Pretty fucking great episode all around.

Quindiana Jones

04-26-2010, 01:45 AM

I agree, that was brillaintly done. Moffat seems to know exactly how to :bou::bou::bou::bou: kids up. "The monster on the TV will become real if you don't keep looking at it"? Freaking genius.

Psychotic

04-26-2010, 01:46 AM

Yeah that recording was a seriously nice touch. Not sure if I liked all the statues turning out to be Angels but we'll see how it goes.

Bastian

04-26-2010, 01:57 AM

One of my biggest problems with the Doctor Who reboot
Semantics Alert! Semantics Alert!
This is NOT a reboot. A reboot would be if they pretended like none of the previous Doctor Who episodes existed. These new series are a sequel to the previous stuff.

I'm still on the fence with Matt Smith. And it's not just because I miss Tennant so much (which I do). I got over the Ninth Doctor by the end of the first or second episode of the Tenth Doctor. The Eleventh is still not sitting well with me, and I can't quite figure out why. And I'm not sure I like Amy Pond much. Loved Rose, loved Martha, LOOOOOOOVED Donna. And I liked Amy in the first episode, but for some reason she annoyed the hell out of me in the second episode. It was like she was already too "settled in" or something. She exuded some sort of entitlement about being a companion way too soon. Companions have to earn it. :P

Quindiana Jones

04-26-2010, 02:02 AM

I agree that it's weird that Amy is simply thrown in without any..."task". It's the famous Half-Life Walrus thing (yeah, famous. Totally famous.). Though I can get over that because she's hooot.

charliepanayi

04-26-2010, 07:18 AM

I like Amy, it's nice to have someone who can have an argument with the Doctor without shouting really loudly in a foghorn voice (*cough Donna *cough*). Plus the Scottish accent helps.

Crop

04-26-2010, 09:18 AM

And it's not just because I miss Tennant so much (which I do).

I kinda went off Tennant towards the end, I'm glad he left when he did, it means I still like him.

Yeah, that recording was scary as hell, apart from when it actually came out the screen. When she kept looking away and it moved slightly, I was papping my pants.

PeneloRatsbane

05-01-2010, 07:37 PM

WOW Amy tonight! you go girl, Can't say i blame her. i think i would have tried the same thing.... But Rory, he seems pretty bleh.

Psychotic

05-01-2010, 07:54 PM

Haha, I dunno, him waving a broom at that sword-wielding vampire in the preview was pretty funny :D Although quite why the Doctor didn't sort Amy out (his words, not mine!) I don't know.

I didn't like some of the cop-outs in this episode. In particular the "they assume you can see, therefore they are stone!" one when Amy had her eyes closed. If they're perceptive enough to know when someone blinks, then surely they wouldn't be fooled by that!

PeneloRatsbane

05-01-2010, 08:05 PM

Yeah that was a bit of a cop out, but I'd rather them cop out a little then come up with some stupidly overly complicated plot devise, i think that happened a few times in the Tennant episodes.

I'd sort her out too, for sure lol, I mean he did kiss her back a teeny bit before pushing her away, If only it weren't a "Family show"

charliepanayi

05-01-2010, 08:10 PM

To be fair, the Doctor first met Amy when she was a little kid, I imagine having it off with her as an adult might feel a little strange in those circumstances! That and her getting married the next day.

Psychotic

05-01-2010, 08:12 PM

The Tennant episodes often had some magical solution out of nowhere, like the button that made Daleks spin in circles. So yeah this is a lot better than that, for sure. Still, I think it would've been better if the Doctor and River had been watching on cameras, desperately trying to switch to the right one and having to restore faulty ones. That would've led to more tension imho. But hey it's only a small thing, decent episode. Really liked the cruelty and malice of the Angels, and the Doctor going on about comfy chairs :lol:

Also fair play to Amy for being up front about it and trying to get what she wanted, rather than spending her time looking longingly at him but not actually doing anything like Martha did.

Madame Adequate

05-01-2010, 09:05 PM

"Possibly the most important thing in the history of the universe is that I get you, Amy Pond, sorted out right now."

I lol'd.

Smith has really grown on me as The Doctor. I love Nine and Ten both but this kid is pretty awesome.

The copout about the Angels didn't make any sense at all. The whole point is that they have no choice in the matter. They don't choose to move when you blink, they turn into literal, immobile statues whilst they are being observed. But I agree that it was of a significantly lesser degree than a lot of them have been.

I had actually thought, however, that they were statues because they were being observed from the cracks.

Quindiana Jones

05-02-2010, 12:18 AM

I thought they were statues because we were perceiving them. Well, I didn't think that, but I wish that was the case. That'd scare little kids :bou::bou::bou::bou:LESS.

"Why aren't they moving?"
"I don't know. There's...there must be someone else watching them."

Boom. Messy pants. And then later on they could have an episode where Doctor World gets mixed into Real World (multiple universes after all!).

I'm definitely enjoying Smith more and more. I like the kookiness. He's fantastic at being weird, and I love it. And I totally agree that he should've just ploughed Amy there and then.

Loony BoB

05-02-2010, 11:28 AM

I know I would've. =x

Drift

05-02-2010, 02:28 PM

I know I would've. =x

twice over

Skyblade

05-05-2010, 07:35 AM

One of my biggest problems with the Doctor Who reboot
Semantics Alert! Semantics Alert!
This is NOT a reboot. A reboot would be if they pretended like none of the previous Doctor Who episodes existed. These new series are a sequel to the previous stuff.

I wasn't sure which word to use there. Sequel would probably be better (I just didn't think of it), but how many shows do you know of that come back from a fifteen year cancellation? It doesn't have a term. It never happens. Except now.

I was really happy when they acknowledged the past Doctors in the first episode of this season. The old series was awesome, and it deserves more tie-ins. That and when they brought back the Time Lords, complete with the ridiculous outfits, and made them look awesome. Timothy Dalton is now no longer James Bond to me, he is Rassillon forever. :)

And, yeah, I totally messed up the Season Four repeated hint. The images of Rose were from Season Three. My bad. But I still think the point is valid. The plot device has gotten tired. It's not even a gradual build-up, since we don't learn anything new from most of the hints. It's just a repeated teaser, and I think it's gotten old.

Madame Adequate

05-05-2010, 12:15 PM

tbf, and spoilers if you haven't seen the latest episode, the cracks are a lot more important than just something for viewers to see. This episode was in fact resolved by such a crack and the Doctor seemed pretty surprised at what it can do.

Loony BoB

05-05-2010, 12:16 PM

I wasn't a big fan of how that last episode played out, but I do like the cracks thingy.

Crop

05-05-2010, 10:49 PM

I didn't like seeing the Angels move, they seemed pretty slow. I liked the fact that no one knew what they looked like when they moved.

I also really didn't like Amy coming onto The Doctor at the end, it seemed totally out of character. She barely knows him and then just throws herself at him and doesn't even listen to him when he says everything is to do with her? Na, didn't like that at all.

It was a good episode though, I really like this crack in time thing that's going on too.

Quindiana Jones

05-05-2010, 10:51 PM

I agree with the Angels moving thing. Also, I always assumed they weren't stone before they quantum locked. That whole bit was wank, really.

I'm assuming that her sudden horniness is something that'll be explained next episode as some condition or something. If not, then yeah it's a little sudden. But I don't care because she's hooooooot. xD

charliepanayi

05-05-2010, 10:52 PM

Out of character? Seems pretty in character to me, especially considering she'd almost just died and is nervous about her wedding and so was in a somewhat impulsive state. And didn't she dress her boyfriend/fiancee up as the Doctor at one point?

Crop

05-05-2010, 10:59 PM

Madame Adequate

05-05-2010, 11:00 PM

Also fair play to Amy for being up front about it and trying to get what she wanted, rather than spending her time looking longingly at him but not actually doing anything like Martha did.

imho

Quindiana Jones

05-05-2010, 11:04 PM

Hey, I'm fine with her being all flirty all the time. But I do agree it was a little bit of a clunky introduction.

Madame Adequate

05-06-2010, 01:14 AM

charliepanayi

05-06-2010, 07:20 AM

Also, I always assumed they weren't stone before they quantum locked.

Same here, I was always curious to know...but never wanted to know if you know what I mean.

It was out of character. There were no hints of it before hand, and that whole thing about getting her boyfriend to dress up as The Doctor was just a little light heartedness that often happens I thought.
Yeah Quin, I'm guessing that something is making her do it. I hope so anyway, I don't want the new theme to be her coming onto him all the bloody time.

I think getting your partner to dress up as someone you met for one evening as a kid suggests some sort of complex about the person. And no hints of it? What about her 'have you ever fancied someone you know you shouldn't?' line in Victory of the Daleks.

Quindiana Jones

05-06-2010, 08:12 AM

We've seen right from the start that this girl does not mess around when she gets something in her head, which we saw pretty damned plainly at the end of The Beast Below. It's completely in character for her to be headstrong.

That's a good point. But whilst watching it, I didn't really feel the headstrong vibe as in Beast Below. It seemed more like "Oh :bou::bou::bou::bou:, only a minute left...uhhh, make them kiss!".

Loony BoB

05-06-2010, 10:15 AM

I thought she had the hots for the Doctor throughout every episode. Of course, I also got the impression that she had the hots for Churchill, too, so what do I know. It's just the way she looks at people. Like she's going to eat them for breakfast.

Madame Adequate

05-06-2010, 12:56 PM

Plainly wanted to get a good rogering from Churchill itbt

VexNet

05-08-2010, 10:05 PM

It looks like Doctor Who jumped unto the Vampire Bandwagon aswell.

This is the first Doctor I've taken a liking to, never seemed to be able to get into it before.

I feel a bit saddened that I'm not living in the time period when the Daleks were genuinely scary, I've been told it's got something to do with how the camera was used (the extreme close up shots) and that it was displayed on TV screens which (at the time) had curved glass (or whatever that bit on the front is called) so to the viewer it would give an illusion of the Dalek coming through OUT of the TV and into your Living Room!

charliepanayi

05-08-2010, 10:11 PM

It looks like Doctor Who jumped unto the Vampire Bandwagon aswell

Er...have you seen the episode? They weren't vampires

blackmage_nuke

05-09-2010, 01:27 AM

I hope Rory stays and the Doctor builds up an entourage like in the older series.

charliepanayi

05-09-2010, 10:04 AM

He's credited as a guest star in the next three episodes I think - presumably after that he's finally had enough!

Loony BoB

05-09-2010, 10:37 AM

His first showing was poor, but in this episode I really liked his character, it had some good development and showed he was more than just a wuss. And the banter between him and the other characters was pretty amusing. I also like how he's actually intelligent.

Crop

05-09-2010, 01:22 PM

I'm glad they started to drift away from the whole AmyxDoctor thing. I'm getting kinda bored of the romance between the Doctor and his companions. Nice to see this trio going on, have to see how it pans out.

And to call that episode not a vampire themed one is a bit of a stretch.

Loony BoB

05-09-2010, 04:50 PM

Completely agree that the Doctor x Companion luvluv is tiring.

VexNet

05-09-2010, 10:44 PM

It looks like Doctor Who jumped unto the Vampire Bandwagon aswell

Er...have you seen the episode? They weren't vampires

I know, but that's what was advertised and I'd hate to give it away to people who hadn't seen it,

I didn't really understand how the perception stopped people from touching their legs and bodieis that are obviously not human shape, or does it actually change their physical state, not just a visual illusionary mind trick.

Agent Proto

05-10-2010, 04:07 PM

PeneloRatsbane

05-10-2010, 09:24 PM

some great lines in the Vampires of Venice.

"did you kiss her back"
"No, I kissed her mouth" LMAO

"The only person uglier than you is... your mum!" or something along those lines made me crack up

Quindiana Jones

05-10-2010, 09:28 PM

Haha, the "No, I kissed her mouth!" line was a classic. xD

Matthew

05-13-2010, 04:51 AM

I've been wanting to see more companions for a while. And Rory went from someone I was dreading seeing more of to actually a really great part of last episode. (Hell, not unlike Micky.) If he ends up leaving, I certainly hope he comes back.

Bastian

05-13-2010, 04:54 AM

I wasn't all that impressed with the most recent episode, truth be told. But overall, I'm enjoying this new production team and Doctor. I was worried it would be too different from Russel T. Davies stuff.

blackmage_nuke

05-23-2010, 10:31 PM

Sorry to bump but no point making another thread.

The Dream Lord episode was good but the end was a bit predictable and anticlimactic. I enjoyed it more than the "Vampire" episode atleast.

Newest cliff hanger episode was really enjoyable. I think it will be the mother who attempts to kill the lizard hostage but thats abit too obvious.

Psychotic

05-23-2010, 10:52 PM

I can see it being any one of the three. The man is infected with something and might flip out on the lizard. And Rory, well, that might explain why he stops travelling with the Doctor - charliepanayi said he was signed on to be in three more episodes and this will be the third.

Skyblade

05-24-2010, 03:57 AM

Ok, I've seen through Vampires (I seem to be getting them a week later than you guys). I'm actually enjoying the cracks, now that it is clear that they are an actual story arc, rather than just a teaser image in each episode.

And, yeah, the shift in companions is great. I am really tired of the Doctor/companion romance. It is not fitting with the character at all.

Loony BoB

05-24-2010, 10:21 AM

One thing I'm not keen on is the number of cliffhanger episodes. I don't mind them once in a while, but it seems half of the episodes this season are going to be incomplete stories. I personally enjoy having a full episode, start and finish, on most Saturdays. There's another two-parter in mid-June, too. Grr.

EDIT: Further investigation shows that it's the norm and I just never noticed until now. :( I still think it's annoying, though!

Matthew

05-24-2010, 11:35 AM

charliepanayi

05-24-2010, 01:40 PM

I think it's good to have one or two two-parters during a series (not just the finale), sometimes a story needs more than 45 minutes.

Loony BoB

05-24-2010, 01:42 PM

While true, it shouldn't be a case of three doubles and 6-7 singles.

Psychotic

05-24-2010, 01:45 PM

They always have three two-parters per series. This isn't anything new :confused:

Skyblade

05-24-2010, 05:39 PM

Loony BoB

05-25-2010, 10:29 AM

The few that I watched, I can barely remember. I do remember seeing an episode with him and that robot dog on the moon (or something that resembled the moon).

charliepanayi

05-30-2010, 10:02 AM

Noooooooooooooo :(

Donna doesn't get her brains fried when it was supposed to happen, but Rory winds up dead and erased from history. Curse you Doctor Who :(

Captain Maxx Power

05-30-2010, 12:50 PM

Noooooooooooooo :(

Donna doesn't get her brains fried when it was supposed to happen, but Rory winds up dead and erased from history. Curse you Doctor Who :(

This one has me a bit confused. It's been established that the cracks supposedly take out people from time so people in the current time-line end up forgetting them, yet their actions still seem to be in effect in that time-line. Does that mean there's just a "gap" in people's memories? Cause if Rory was completely erased from history technically it should mean all of his help to the doctor was erased too.

blackmage_nuke

05-31-2010, 12:13 PM

Noooooo! Not Rory!

Psychotic

05-31-2010, 12:31 PM

The Doctor will fix it in the series finale with the cracks in! You'll see! He'll make it all okay!

...I hope. :(

Also I do like how the main menace has been built up throughout the series, unlike in the previous ones where it was just the word Bad Wolf or a new Prime Minister.

Loony BoB

05-31-2010, 12:33 PM

Why are you guys all marking your posts with spoilers when nothing is being spoiled? If it's been shown on TV then it's fair game. Not to mention the whole thread title containing the word 'Spoilers' thing. Which I'll re-edit for obviousness now.

PeneloRatsbane

06-01-2010, 01:33 PM

sniff, Rory, he was actually likeable and the dynamic with all three of them was so good. I can't accept that he's gone for good tho. When Amy forgot him it was so sad. The ring was on the floor wasn't it? maybe thats going to have some significance

BarelySeeAtAll

06-05-2010, 06:55 PM

Iceglow

06-05-2010, 07:43 PM

Are they trying to save on money, or something? Before they had some concrete aangels which only moved when you look away, meaning we didn't REALLY see them moving that much. Today some invisisble monster. Although, I haven't really seen the others, I guess this makes me a noob, and I haven't seen the whole of this episode.

:greenie: So there we go.

Invisible monster that still got shown enough that no it would not have saved money. I think the whole invisibility thing was to point out that the Doctor is not infallible he does have failings and sometimes needs help to see it through. The ending of the episode where they take Van Gogh to present day Paris to show him his artwork was really touchingly filmed (great likeness to van gogh too in that)

I knew that the cracks were associated to the Doctor and the Tardis before they had him pull the fragment of the Tardis out of the crack in the episode where Rory died. If you look at the earlier episodes of the series you can see on one of them that the crack is actually shaped the same as the lock of the Tardis door (rotated 90 degrees) I'm pretty sure that the doctor will figure out what is going on in the final episode but I feel it has actually to do with the regeneration from David Tennant to Smith because if you recall episode 1 he said "new face, new suit, new tardis"

blackmage_nuke

06-06-2010, 05:20 AM

I always thought it was pronounced Van Go.

What Im really enjoying about the new episodes is that they use the fact that he can actually travel through time as part of the episodes plot rather than just using the time traveling thing to plop them somewhere for an adventure at the begining and take them somewhere else at the end.

Iceglow

06-06-2010, 12:10 PM

I always thought it was pronounced Van Go.

You were wrong, they were right.

PeneloRatsbane

06-06-2010, 02:36 PM

I loved the Van Gogh episode. It was shot beautifully and I really enjoyed the fact that the focus was more on the characters than the alien. Shed a tear at the end when they took him to the art gallery. It felt different from a lot of the other episodes and I think it might have felt out of place in the Tennant or Eccleston series, but it fit in nicely with way this series has been going.

Also as for saving money, I believe they have had their budget reduced and I for one think that is a good thing. It breeds more orignal ideas

Psychotic

06-06-2010, 04:13 PM

100% agreed with PeneloRatsbane. Was a really good episode and not just a "oh what monster is being a bother this week?" dealie which we kind of saw in some Tennant episodes.

Spiffing Cheese

06-27-2010, 10:09 PM

The fez was awesome.

charliepanayi

06-27-2010, 10:10 PM

I quite enjoyed the finale, damned if I knew what was going on for half of it though.

Spiffing Cheese

06-27-2010, 10:13 PM

It was a bit all over the place, but I loved it.

I wasn't at all sure about this season at the start but it really grew on me. Plus James Corden = yay!

I hope River Song comes back, Alex Kingston is great.

The "stop the wedding, my imaginary friend is missing" was absolute genius, too. So funny.

And yay for Rory's-not-dead!

Iceglow

06-27-2010, 11:30 PM

It's not long now until he finally finds out who River Song is to him and that changes everything so next series could be interesting. I found that River Song is so terrifying she can make a Dalek beg for mercy infactuating, thats my kind of lady! Still very glad they didn't let him keep the fez, that is just no, heck no to be precise. Ironically, the Tardis burning being the only thing that saved the earth long enough for the Amy Pond to save the doctor is quite interesting. However when River blew the doors open she looked out in to rock, what rock? Also the sun supernova explosion would have boiled away all life on the planet without fail which is quite an unexplained plot hole though I like how they made the rewind with something as obvious as the angels episode an easter egg you couldn't help but see but at the same point knew nothing of until the end.

Ezme

06-28-2010, 11:43 AM

I thought the ending was really poor. I knew how it was going to end about half way in... don't like the sacarine "If I remember he'll appear." There were also logic fails... But hey, maybe it's the philosophy grad in me...

I do adore alex kingston and river song is brilliant but I thought she worked better with david tennant. The library is my favourite episode(s)

Captain Maxx Power

06-28-2010, 02:01 PM

Although I liked the final episode when I first saw it, subsequently there's tons of stuff that bothered the crap out of me. Do the cracks just remove people's memories of someone or literally make them never exist at all? Does Amy have magic powers or something? How come Rory guarded that box for two thousand years and he hasn't even got a scratch on him? How come the show keeps thinking Richard Dawkins is an astronomer? Why was the TARDIS exploding in the middle of space as oppose to on the planet itself? If the Pandorica is the "perfect prison" how come the sonic screwdriver opens it up with zero effort? If the TARDIS was exploding how come the central console room was fine where the freakin' heart of the TARDIS is kept? How come Amy is so hot? Why does The Doctor resemble a friendly Easter Island head? Are the Daleks the Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers? How many questions have I asked? Does my bum look big in this? Who? What? Where? WHY?!?!

Apart from that, I quite liked it.

blackmage_nuke

06-28-2010, 02:13 PM

Although I liked the final episode when I first saw it, subsequently there's tons of stuff that bothered the crap out of me. Do the cracks just remove people's memories of someone or literally make them never exist at all? Apparently it makes them never exist

Does Amy have magic powers or something?
Yes, she is Haruhi

How come Rory guarded that box for two thousand years and he hasn't even got a scratch on him?
He stayed out of trouble. Or maybe space plastic is stronger than anything we have on earth

How come the show keeps thinking Richard Dawkins is an astronomer?
Whuh?

Why was the TARDIS exploding in the middle of space as oppose to on the planet itself?
I assume River flew it off the planet to lessen casualties

If the Pandorica is the "perfect prison" how come the sonic screwdriver opens it up with zero effort?
I thought that too...maybe it broke when the universe stopped existing like all the space aliens turning to statues

If the TARDIS was exploding how come the central console room was fine where the freakin' heart of the TARDIS is kept?
I thought the heart was all over the ship, that little door that leads to the heart was just a little door or something.

How come Amy is so hot?
She remembers herself that way and alter realities to make herself sexy

Why does The Doctor resemble a friendly Easter Island head?
Easter Island heads look awefully Timelord, Timelords came first

Are the Daleks the Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers?
Yes, the real question is what they turn into when they merge

How many questions have I asked?

Yes

Does my bum look big in this?

Yes

Who?

Yes

What?

Yes

Where?

Yes

WHY?!?!

Yes

Apart from that, I quite liked it.

Ditto