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Xaracsis
08-04-2010, 01:58 PM
I just got knights of the round and went beating the hell out of emerald weapon but then it appears that I can't use the summon more than once I had 600 and it asks for 250 is this normal?

Levian
08-04-2010, 02:06 PM
It's like this with all summons in the game, you have to level up the materia. For each new level, you can use the summon one more time in battle.

either that or you can use Mime and I think Quadra Magic works as well.

Saber
08-04-2010, 03:25 PM
Quadra Magic does NOT work with KOTR in the PS1 version. I don't know about PC or PSP. However most people level up mime and KOTR once so that you can use w-summon and then mime with two characters. If you break the chain by using a different spell then your players won't mime KOTR. So Cast big guard and Regen to make sure your ready for the battle before you start chaining the summon. Good luck!!

Mirage
08-04-2010, 04:30 PM
Quadra magic doesn't work because summoning isn't the same as magic.

Saber
08-04-2010, 04:40 PM
Quadra magic doesn't work because summoning isn't the same as magic.

All other summons can be linked to quadra magic and work. KOTR is just an odd ball. Some say that its cause the developers thought that it was too deadly of a spell to let happen 4 times in a row, 8 times with w-summon. I mean hell it would only take like 1 turn with each character to beat emerald. Cast it with your first guy and mime it with the other two.

Skyblade
08-07-2010, 12:28 AM
Quadra Magic does NOT work with KOTR in the PS1 version. I don't know about PC or PSP. However most people level up mime and KOTR once so that you can use w-summon and then mime with two characters. If you break the chain by using a different spell then your players won't mime KOTR. So Cast big guard and Regen to make sure your ready for the battle before you start chaining the summon. Good luck!!

Wasn't that because it takes 1000 MP for four castings, and the max is 999? I thought you could Quadra Magic it with MP<->HP.

Saber
08-07-2010, 12:45 AM
Quadra Magic does NOT work with KOTR in the PS1 version. I don't know about PC or PSP. However most people level up mime and KOTR once so that you can use w-summon and then mime with two characters. If you break the chain by using a different spell then your players won't mime KOTR. So Cast big guard and Regen to make sure your ready for the battle before you start chaining the summon. Good luck!!

Wasn't that because it takes 1000 MP for four castings, and the max is 999? I thought you could Quadra Magic it with MP<->HP.

Nope I just checked it out on my copy of final fantasy VII. Every summon BUT knights of the round had 4xm as an add on ability. I had on Master Summon linked with quadra magic, and Hp<>MP. I went to both the magic in the main menu, and the summon menu in battle, BOTH had 4xm as an add on except for the final summon... KOTR.

Maybe the reason they didn't add it on is cause you wouldn't have enough MP unless you used HP<>MP.

Mirage
08-07-2010, 05:07 PM
lol ok

TheSpoonyBard
08-07-2010, 06:44 PM
Wasn't that because it takes 1000 MP for four castings, and the max is 999? I thought you could Quadra Magic it with MP<->HP.
Quadra Magic doesn't require any more MP than a normal cast, so a MP limit isn't the reason. You can use it on all magics and summons with the exception of KotR (too overpowered, like sora_lion_heart said) and Escape (pointless).

It halves the damage of the attached spell, but if you equip five instances of Quadra Magic and an identical magic or summon materia you can get eight castings in one turn. I don't know if it's possible to get sixteen in a single turn with W-Magic/Summon so if anyone wants to test that I'd be interested in hearing the result.