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Darkswordofchaos
09-17-2010, 02:19 PM
so the new fall out game is only a few weeks away and i for one cant wait.
I loved the last fall out game, this one does have new developers but is really just following the footsteps of bethesda so any one else exited?

escobert
09-17-2010, 02:24 PM
I'm excited however I probably wont get it for a while.

Darkswordofchaos
09-17-2010, 02:37 PM
i know i just moved out on my own across the counry so money will be tight for a while but i hope to get it asap i hope its as expansive as the last one and gets the same great dlc

escobert
09-17-2010, 02:50 PM
I hope there's even more DLC. Iloved the DLC of 3 but I wold have liked the Pitt to be bigger and same with point lookout. Also anchorage was kinda poopy.

Iceglow
09-17-2010, 03:08 PM
Fallout 3 was one of the pinnacles of modern gaming in terms of western rpgs along with mass effect and dragon age. I certainly will be looking in to getting a copy of New Vegas at some point if not immediately (I never actually completed Fallout 3, I just kinda got all the dlc on it and didn't know what to do first, Psy convinced me to finish the main campaign first then do the other objectives, maybe another time I'll do it in different order not to mention the other games I have to play, some of which are un-opened lol)

escobert
09-17-2010, 03:15 PM
there's a lot to do in 3 but it really doesn't take much time and effort. and more than enough loot around with all the DLCs to be a millionaire in no time :p

Quindiana Jones
10-05-2010, 10:37 AM
Fallout: NV is developed by the original Fallout creators. Anyone who's played Fallout 2 knows this is a very, very good thing. :D

However, it's using Fallout 3's engine. Anyone who's played Fallout 3 knows this is a very, very good thing. :D

All the videos I've seen make it look a bit :bou::bou::bou::bou:ty. Clunky graphics and glitchy movement are not things I expect to see in a game nowadays. However, these videos were done ages ago, and I firmly expect the actual release to be sexy as hell. There are a lot of new features in NV that 3 didn't have. The Fallout 2 reputation system is back, so I look forward to the various playstyles this will accommodate. Hopefully it'll end up being more than just a good guy vs. bad guy thing. What I'm most looking forward to is the survival system. You're in a post-apocalyptic desert area, and if you don't keep yourself watered, you gon die. It'd be interesting to see what this is like on the harder settings. Apparently they're really gonna make it interesting.

kotora
10-05-2010, 10:51 AM
Fallout: NV is developed by the original Fallout creators. Anyone who's played Fallout 2 knows this is a very, very good thing. :D

However, it's using Fallout 3's engine. Anyone who's played Fallout 3 knows this is a very, very good thing. :D

All the videos I've seen make it look a bit :bou::bou::bou::bou:ty. Clunky graphics and glitchy movement are not things I expect to see in a game nowadays. However, these videos were done ages ago, and I firmly expect the actual release to be sexy as hell. There are a lot of new features in NV that 3 didn't have. The Fallout 2 reputation system is back, so I look forward to the various playstyles this will accommodate. Hopefully it'll end up being more than just a good guy vs. bad guy thing. What I'm most looking forward to is the survival system. You're in a post-apocalyptic desert area, and if you don't keep yourself watered, you gon die. It'd be interesting to see what this is like on the harder settings. Apparently they're really gonna make it interesting.

now that's weird because the fallout 3/oblivion engine basically defines "clunky graphics and glitchy movement".

Madame Adequate
10-05-2010, 06:04 PM
Fallout 3 was one of the pinnacles of modern gaming in terms of western rpgs along with mass effect and dragon age.

Are you completely out of your tree

Jesus CHRIST

Rase
10-05-2010, 06:17 PM
I am excited for it, but still hesitant. I loved Fallout 3, but it had the usual glitches that come with a Bethesda game. However, Obsidion is not known for making the most stable of game either, so I am hoping nothing goes horribly wrong here. Will probably pick it up come Christmas or the new year; the Hardcore mode where you need to manage your hunger/thirst and can only heal broken limbs with a doctor or medical bag makes me very happy.

Zwei
10-05-2010, 06:53 PM
I agree with Rase. I'm excited in a sense, but still very cautious. Fallout 3 on the PS3 is buggy as all-hell. I will hold off until reviews have hit. Hopefully, Bethesda has upped the quality of their QA.

Vyk
10-05-2010, 08:07 PM
I was going to point out what Quin already has. A new Fallout using the new engine, designed by most of the previous team. I doubt they're doing it alone though. I would imagine the rest of Bethesda is behind them to help quality control. But as has been stated, these kinds of games are littered with bugs. But that's kinda expected. There's a LOT of content, and a lot of choices to account for. A lot of which over-lap and can have effects on each other. Takes a lot of testing to find all that stuff. So I've never really faulted Fallout or Oblivion for those kinds of faults. Though I do know the original Baldur's Gate games and likely the original Fallout games didn't have those kinda game-ending quest-oriented glitches and whatnot, and those two franchises had very similar/overlapping pedigree. And BioWare itself rarely has issues of this nature. So hopefully the original Fallout team has a better job coding quests and whatnot. I'm not too worried about the use of the Fallout 3 engine. I'm an advocate that games don't have to be bleeding edge to be fun. I praise Dragon Age for cutting back on graphics for ease of use and processing. It only has to be fun and marginally pretty or artsy. It doesn't have to be state-of-the-art

Though I think I'm more with MILF. Oblivion and Fallout were maybe evolutionary but not really revolutionary. Though honestly I never played the original Elder Scrolls or Fallout games, I do know earlier PC RPGs and stuff had much higher standards for storytelling and quest giving, those games included. I've heard many many arguments that Morrowind is better than Oblivion in almost every fashion other than maybe graphics and traveling the world map. And the Fallout games were heralded up there with Baldur's Gate and System Shock and stuff as setting the highest standards for role playing and character development and whatnot

Mirage
10-06-2010, 01:24 AM
As long as they manage to hold Gamebryo together, this could turn out well.

FO3 was also one of the few PC games I thought warranted a purchase over the last few years.

McLovin'
10-06-2010, 04:52 AM
Bugs? Really? That's a crappy reason to not buy a game. :) F3 was still enjoyable even with the ANNOYING AS HELL FREEZE GLITCHES.

UBER EXCITED FOR THIS GAME!

Dreddz
10-06-2010, 11:48 PM
Looks like some DLC for Fallout 3 to me. And since I didn't like Fallout 3 all too much, and didn't purchase any of the DLC, I reckon I can miss this one. Hopefully they can at least balance the weapons this time. Running up to enemies, hitting VATS and giving them as many shotgun blasts to the head was far too effective in Fallout 3.

champagne supernova
10-07-2010, 12:41 AM
I still don't know if I like Fallout 3 or not. I liked Oblivion, so I should really like it. But I think I might dislike the V.A.T.S system. It is really odd that I've finished the game and still can't figure it out, but I really have mixed feelings about it.

Anyway, Bethesda games are massive. I don't know how large Mass Effect or Dragon's Age are, but I am going to go out on a limb and say I don't think they could be as big as Bethesda's last two games.

Anyway, New Vegas might suit me better because apparently it's not so barren as Fallout. But I'm way more excited for the PS3 port of Mass Effect tbh.

escobert
10-07-2010, 01:31 AM
My feelings on the vats was that I only used it when I really needed to. then I wasn't just running up and blasting everything in the head with vats and enjoyed the battles much more

Mirage
10-07-2010, 06:09 AM
I still don't know if I like Fallout 3 or not. I liked Oblivion, so I should really like it. But I think I might dislike the V.A.T.S system. It is really odd that I've finished the game and still can't figure it out, but I really have mixed feelings about it.

Anyway, Bethesda games are massive. I don't know how large Mass Effect or Dragon's Age are, but I am going to go out on a limb and say I don't think they could be as big as Bethesda's last two games.

Anyway, New Vegas might suit me better because apparently it's not so barren as Fallout. But I'm way more excited for the PS3 port of Mass Effect tbh.

Then just don't use VATS :p.

Psychotic
10-23-2010, 12:41 PM
Loved Fallout 3. Absolutely fantastic game.

Just started New Vegas and I found Indiana Jones in a fridge. I now wear his hat.

Madame Adequate
10-23-2010, 02:55 PM
Enjoying it so far. Better writing, better voice acting, better quests, better mechanics, iron sights makes non-vats combat worth bothering with (And VATS is less overpowered too so)... still the :bou::bou::bou::bou:ty Gamebryo engine but what are you gonna do, that's not Obsidian's fault.

Psychotic
10-23-2010, 03:03 PM
I now have four types of cowboy hat in addition to my Indiana Jones hat. I think I will make a collection for whenever I get a house!

Machetin' and dynamitin' my way through the south-west right now. :)

Crop
10-23-2010, 04:17 PM
I got cut off heading to the casinos so I hit up the South instead. Loving it so far.

One thing I don't like is the whole custom gun thing and the armor categories, with repare benches and ammo choices. I've never been a fan of weapon customisation though, I liked how Fallout 3 did it, with a unique weapon for most classes but that was it. I also don't like the making herbs thing, doubt I'll be using that much.

I do really like the rep system though. I thought I'd reward the town that took me in by beating down some bandits.

Laddy
10-23-2010, 04:24 PM
I now have four types of cowboy hat in addition to my Indiana Jones hat. I think I will make a collection for whenever I get a house!

Machetin' and dynamitin' my way through the south-west right now. :)

Psychotic, English Cowboy!

NeoCracker
10-23-2010, 04:54 PM
Yeah, story and characters are way better then if FO3. That alone makes this game far superior.

Also, it has the King baby. :cool:

I'm running with Veronica as my ally, and dam. She's mean. That power gauntlet of hers just massacres guys.

Psychotic
10-23-2010, 05:14 PM
Psychotic, English Cowboy!Off course!!

Just met the Legion for the first time. Damn, they seem genuinely scary smurfers. Therefore I must somehow join this organisation and help them wreck :bou::bou::bou::bou:.

Aerith's Knight
10-23-2010, 06:40 PM
Psychotic, English Cowboy!Off course!!

Just met the Legion for the first time. Damn, they seem genuinely scary smurfers. Therefore I must somehow join this organisation and help them wreck :bou::bou::bou::bou:.

I thought the crucifying was somewhat of a bad publicity, so I slaughtered them all.


...slowly.

...with FIRE.

Shorty
10-23-2010, 07:40 PM
I'm super excited to play New Vegas. My boyfriend bought it the other day, but he's been hogging it. I'll probably start it this weekend.

also, VATS is the best. I could not get through Fallout 3 without it.

escobert
10-23-2010, 07:45 PM
I hated using VATS so I'm glad to hear they powered it down. Also actually sights while not using VATS sounds awesome. I hated the way the aiming was in 3 but it was at least more fun then just clicking on things heads and letting the computer shoot for you.

Psychotic
10-23-2010, 08:25 PM
I don't think VATS seems powered down at all tbh.

The bed in my motel room is now coated with hats :love:

Madame Adequate
10-23-2010, 08:59 PM
I don't think VATS seems powered down at all tbh.

Really? It's still pretty potent, but it doesn't seem to be the unstoppable IWIN button it was in 3. Maybe it's less that VATS is weaker and more that regular shooting is actually doable thanks to iron sights?

Also, I'm here to do some business with the big iron on my hip :cool:

Dignified Pauper
10-24-2010, 07:23 AM
Just bought this game, what should I know as my re-entry to the series from Fallout 2?

Jiro
10-24-2010, 12:08 PM
I'm going to wait for as long as I can because I know once I get this game I will be hooked.

kotora
10-24-2010, 01:11 PM
Just bought this game, what should I know as my re-entry to the series from Fallout 2?

fallout 3 is about restoring a device that can purify the water in DC. There's also giant robots, aliens, mutated hillbillies and you can set off an atomic bomb in a town.

Psychotic
10-24-2010, 01:14 PM
Just bought this game, what should I know as my re-entry to the series from Fallout 2?Listen to this.

Endlessly.

That's about it.

YouTube - I dont wanna set the world on fire + lyrics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMMV_RoEMxE)

Madame Adequate
10-24-2010, 03:03 PM
Just bought this game, what should I know as my re-entry to the series from Fallout 2?

Take Wild Wasteland.

Dignified Pauper
10-24-2010, 03:46 PM
I didn't, why should I?

Psychotic
10-24-2010, 03:50 PM
Sucks to be you :shobon:

Come Fly With Me. Ride of the Valkryies. Mother of God that was awesome.

Dignified Pauper
10-24-2010, 04:05 PM
I saved right after picking everything, I can go back and do it. I also read up on what it does, and I do like the premise of the changes to be more silly. I'll just restart and reroll my character, no big deal.

Psychotic
10-24-2010, 04:09 PM
You can change your perks before you go leave Goodspring anyway I think.

Laddy
10-24-2010, 04:17 PM
Just bought this game, what should I know as my re-entry to the series from Fallout 2?Fallout 3 was not as good. Simple. It lost a lot of its magic, but it's still a damn fine game, but it lost its touch and just didn't feel like Fallout.

New Vegas will be more like Fallout 1 and 2, but it will again be more simplified. :I

Dignified Pauper
10-24-2010, 05:09 PM
encountered my first freeze during the battle tutorial......

Madame Adequate
10-24-2010, 05:59 PM
It's crashed once in about six hours of playing for me.

Which makes it the most stable product Bethesda have ever had a hand in!

Psychotic
10-24-2010, 07:45 PM
Have not had any bugs or crashes with Oblivion, Fallout 3 or New Vegas. That's what you chumps get for playing on the PC. :smug:

Also I have discovered the one and only thing I smurfing hated about Fallout 3 is in this game too. Vaults. Specifically, they are absolutely smurfing horrible messes with a terrible layout that I always get lost in and oh god why is this happening to me I have been through the same corridor 30+ times :(

Madame Adequate
10-24-2010, 08:57 PM
If you want to play without any mods like some kind of Lonny BoB/NCG plebian you go right ahead son :eyebrow:

I agree on the vault front though. And they're always full of the most irritating enemies, too.

NorthernChaosGod
10-24-2010, 09:06 PM
If you want to play without any mods like some kind of Lonny BoB/NCG plebian you go right ahead son :eyebrow:

I agree on the vault front though. And they're always full of the most irritating enemies, too.

Why in the smurf am I being mentioned in a thread I haven't posted in at all? :colbert:

Madame Adequate
10-24-2010, 09:13 PM
You've been keeping a close eye on it, as your rapid response demonstrates.

Psychotic
10-24-2010, 09:13 PM
I agree on the vault front though. And they're always full of the most irritating enemies, too.WHY IS THERE SOME SORT OF SUPER GHOUL OVERSEER IN VAULT 34? WHY? WHAT IS HE DOING IN THERE? WHY IS HE DOING THIS TO ME? WHY WHY WHY? HOW THE smurf IS HE ABLE TO TAKE OFF HALF MY HEALTH IN ONE PUNCH?

NeoCracker
10-24-2010, 09:23 PM
PS3 version is pretty damned buggy, but not unplayable. Not that any one here cares to much. :p

I did have a straight 6 hour run with out any form of glitch what so ever though. :P

And 'Johnny Guitar' and 'Texas Red' are the two most awesome songs.

NorthernChaosGod
10-24-2010, 09:47 PM
You've been keeping a close eye on it, as your rapid response demonstrates.

I barely decided to read the thread after realizing this was a whole new game and not new DLC. :colbert:

Dignified Pauper
10-25-2010, 12:29 AM
I also play on PS3 as my computer sucks... only about an hour in. Time sucks.

Star-Cap collecting has drove me mad... I've begun killing anyone who says they have them. Poor guy, he was attacked by his companion after she noticed his necklace. I walked up on the fight. I watched him kill her, then he ran over to me. Told me about the necklace, and when he didn't believe me they were bad luck, I sent him on his way... After he passed me, I turned around and fired two shots into his head and stole that necklace and collected them from that bitch of a woman. THE TREASURE! IT WILL BE MINE!

Also, this flamethrower... I think I lost my soul to it.

Psychotic
10-25-2010, 11:53 PM
I met that guy too when I was running from a bunch of vipers. I assumed when he said "she" attacked him he meant a viper. Either way, I shot him in the face.

Also, I have had sex with an old woman and a robot in the past hour. And I only had to pay 75 caps :smug:

Dignified Pauper
10-26-2010, 01:38 AM
That's a pretty good deal. Next you need to sex a ghoul.

Iceglow
10-26-2010, 02:25 AM
Squishies

Dignified Pauper
10-26-2010, 05:39 AM
I got them jingle jangle jingles

JKTrix
10-26-2010, 06:25 AM
I don't know why I picked this up when I have so many other things to play and never finished F3. I played up through the combat tutorials with ace girl and then killed her and her dog and turned it off. Wish it came out at a different time. Runs pretty good on my laptop though.

Dignified Pauper
10-26-2010, 07:39 AM
OH GOD! Ride of the Valkyries was AMAZING!

Psychotic
10-26-2010, 02:34 PM
RotV was the Liberty Prime moment of New Vegas imho.

Dignified Pauper
10-26-2010, 05:38 PM
I mean, completing that quest series was so rewarding just to hear that fucking song.

Although, I still can't get jingle, jangle, jingle out of my head... I am going to shoot myself.

Madame Adequate
10-26-2010, 06:11 PM
This game is so. Fucking. Sweet. And holy smurf Boone is a badass with his rifle. He pops heads before I even know someone's there.

Just arrived on the Vegas outskirts. Took a jaunt out to the Dam from Boulder City and it's pretty great, all huge and filled with NCR troops and :bou::bou::bou::bou:.

Also lol'd when I finally noticed how Novac got its name.

Dignified Pauper
10-26-2010, 06:28 PM
this game inspired me to repurchase the original 2... Oh god.

Crop
10-26-2010, 09:25 PM
I haven't had much time to play it due to work, but that moment when I first met the Legion in...erm that town where they've hung people on crosses was totally awsome. I felt it really captured the mood.
Day off tomorrow. Day of Fallout.

Madame Adequate
10-27-2010, 04:16 PM
Finally bothered going to meet Caesar.

What a disappointment. That classless scrotum conquered 86 tribes? This crass thug is renowned for his charisma? I expected someone who put this gig together to have some majesty, some gravitas. But he's barely a step above a common raider.

Nodded Emu
10-27-2010, 06:29 PM
I blew his head off .... I suppose you could say I thanked him for his tweetment.

YEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

Shorty
10-28-2010, 04:29 AM
I fiiinally started New Vegas today! I'm super excited.

Psychotic
10-28-2010, 03:01 PM
Finally bothered going to meet Caesar.

What a disappointment. That classless scrotum conquered 86 tribes? This crass thug is renowned for his charisma? I expected someone who put this gig together to have some majesty, some gravitas. But he's barely a step above a common raider.Indeed, and it was easy as fuck to fuck the man over with what he wanted me to do, too. I kinda felt guilty and sorry for him, as opposed to the "ohhhhhh :bou::bou::bou::bou: what have I gotten myself into?" fear I felt when I first arrived in Nipton.

Madame Adequate
10-28-2010, 03:19 PM
Also, they need to retune some of karma effects. I got in more trouble with the Legion for raiding a tiny slave camp and freeing a couple of powder gangers than for betraying Caesar and helping Mr. House and the NCR to undo everything he's spent the last four years setting up. The first one meant ASSASSINS, ASSASSINS EVERYWHERE. The second one meant... nothing happened. Though admittedly I got so into the story that I just beelined for the ending so perhaps I didn't give them enough time to show?

kotora
11-14-2010, 05:02 PM
Have to agree there, visiting Caesars fort was kinda underwhelming. But at least he got the pronunciation of the name right, so that's a +1 for him.

As for the game, I like F3 more. Just had more of that post-apocalyptic atmosphere about it with DC in ruins and whatnot. Right now I brought the Platinum Chip back to Mr. House and I'm off to recruit the Boomers to his cause.

also, Bethesda needs to hire themselves some audio guys because having like 3 songs in a game this big is a fucking embarrassment.

Crop
11-14-2010, 10:47 PM
As for the game, I like F3 more. Just had more of that post-apocalyptic atmosphere about it with DC in ruins and whatnot.

I agree, it's the only thing holding it back from being my favourite.

Still, I've had a couple of days to play it and it's seriously awsome, and I LIKE VAULTS, there I said it. I just got to level 20 and unlocked all the places on the map so I immediately went to all the vaults, anyone seen that vault where they have to sacrifice one person from the vault so often or the vault systems will 'shut down'? That place was great.
I haven't really gotten through much of the main story, I've been doing the millions of other quests they have (usually just by getting sidetracked when on my way through the story).

McLovin'
11-15-2010, 05:22 AM
I was shocked and speechless when I saw Lily...the "female" crazyass supermutant. 0_0

Laddy
11-15-2010, 12:28 PM
She's actually a sweet old lady too. :)

NeoCracker
11-15-2010, 10:50 PM
Vault 11 is my favorite place in the game after reading all the security logs. That was a seriously messed up and humorous vault. :p

McLovin'
11-15-2010, 11:48 PM
Best bug yet: Fast traveled to Red Rock Canyon and Boone suddenly decides that he's tired of walking and literally slaughters every single Khan in sight...and the best part is I didn't lose any rep nor did anyone else become hostile after that. But watching the battle ensuing was awesome.

Psychotic
11-20-2010, 03:41 PM
It's just so much fun to load up on turbo, grab a chainsaw, top it all off with the lovely party hat, and then march into a sleeping quarters. The room becomes decorated with blood, limbs and organs. No reason for doing it. I do it just 'cause I can. :shobon:

Dignified Pauper
11-21-2010, 04:17 PM
Vault 11 is my favorite place in the game after reading all the security logs. That was a seriously messed up and humorous vault. :p

Yeah, this Vault was SO awesome. The atmosphere of this game is so top-notch with the original that it's amazing!

kotora
11-21-2010, 04:47 PM
lol I just saw Lt. Boyd typing on the broken computer in her office at McCarran.

McLovin'
11-22-2010, 07:25 AM
I was disappointed that the independent route didn't end up with Vegas being a happy place. They said that there was chaos everywhere? Wtf? I got an army of freakin Securitrons who killed the Legion and drove out the NCR! Where the hell is the chaos at? I got the impression that I'd be ruling Vegas and I would make it awesome not chaotic :( I bet it's Yes Man's fault. He probably went all Hitler with the robots.

Madame Adequate
11-22-2010, 05:33 PM
The ending depends on more than just who you side with. My NCR ending was all happy yay civilization and progress and taxes suck but it's a price worth paying kind of thing. A friend of mine got the NCR ending and it was much less optimistic. It depends on the sidequests you do and how you act throughout the game, not just with the MQ.

Dignified Pauper
11-22-2010, 06:38 PM
I was disappointed that the independent route didn't end up with Vegas being a happy place. They said that there was chaos everywhere? Wtf? I got an army of freakin Securitrons who killed the Legion and drove out the NCR! Where the hell is the chaos at? I got the impression that I'd be ruling Vegas and I would make it awesome not chaotic :( I bet it's Yes Man's fault. He probably went all Hitler with the robots.

Yes Man's ending is absolutely amazing, and he's one of the funniest characters.

Clo
11-28-2010, 12:43 AM
I just bought it. I'M SO EXCITED. I'll be back in 24 hours of non-stop playing to voice my unwanted opinion. :excited:

kotora
12-02-2010, 08:19 PM
I finished the game today. It was very disappointing. The entire game felt like a poor man's version of Fallout 3, and the only thing it did better than F3, the faction system, didn't matter that much. You spend the entire game doing these quests for the different factions and all you get is a :bou::bou::bou::bou:ty run over half of the dam accompanied by a handful of guys on your side against a handful of guys on the other side. The air support was pretty cool (although it looked so super useless, I mean wtf were those bombs supposed to hit), but it didn't even compare to the epicness of Liberty Prime. The mission of protecting the NCR President prior to the assault of the dam was better than the actual assault and that's pretty lame. I didn't even get to kill that butthole Caesar.

Psychotic
12-02-2010, 11:58 PM
I was disappointed that the independent route didn't end up with Vegas being a happy place. They said that there was chaos everywhere? Wtf? I got an army of freakin Securitrons who killed the Legion and drove out the NCR! Where the hell is the chaos at? I got the impression that I'd be ruling Vegas and I would make it awesome not chaotic :( I bet it's Yes Man's fault. He probably went all Hitler with the robots.I did it the independent route and it sounded like I made Vegas pretty awesome. The only people who called it chaotic were the Followers of the Apocalypse, but hey, smurf those self-righteous twats, they're just pissed I didn't bug Mr. House. :monster:

Loved the Hoover Dam battle. Had a merry old time indiscriminately spraying my Fat Man and Annabelle into the NCR tools and those Legion failures, before chainsawing their leaders. :)

Madame Adequate
12-03-2010, 05:42 PM
I finished the game today. It was very disappointing. The entire game felt like a poor man's version of Fallout 3, and the only thing it did better than F3, the faction system, didn't matter that much. You spend the entire game doing these quests for the different factions and all you get is a :bou::bou::bou::bou:ty run over half of the dam accompanied by a handful of guys on your side against a handful of guys on the other side. The air support was pretty cool (although it looked so super useless, I mean wtf were those bombs supposed to hit), but it didn't even compare to the epicness of Liberty Prime. The mission of protecting the NCR President prior to the assault of the dam was better than the actual assault and that's pretty lame. I didn't even get to kill that butthole Caesar.

I don't even have words or smilies or image macros to demonstrate how hard I am laughing at this.

Crop
12-04-2010, 12:34 AM
I didn't even get to kill that butthole Caesar.

I did, it felt good. Then I killed Chandler while he was still tied up and finally got that plat chip.

I'm going to be playing this game for many more weeks.

kotora
12-04-2010, 12:46 AM
Did you kill him by just waltzing into his tent at the Fort or did you get the opportunity during the assault on the dam?

Crop
12-04-2010, 12:52 AM
Did you kill him by just waltzing into his tent at the Fort or did you get the opportunity during the assault on the dam?

I waltzed into his tent. I did want to talk to him, but I got bad Karma with the legion after the part where they say they forgive your crimes. I had no choice.