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Laddy
11-10-2010, 11:07 PM
I picked up Fallout New Vegas (very good game, pick it up) and I noticed something very, very much awesome in this game.

In New Vegas, you can have one humaoin and one non-humanoid character at a time. Well, Arcade is one such companion. He's a funny, extremely intelligent, and very moral genius, doctor, scientist, philanthropist, and general do-gooder. He has one of the highest Intelligences out of any companion (he's the max at 10) and is very much a Good character. (He spends his life healing the sick and fighting for justice and his own expense often times.) He's charming, cool, competent, useful, deep, and likable. And he's gay. He's not wussy, but she's not stereotypically bear-ish. He's very much open of his sexuality, but not promiscous. He's not a novelty, he's not a joke, and he's not a stereotype. In fact, his endings are all noble sacrifices at the expense of his own life. He's well-voiced by Zachary Levi and is a step forward from positive potrayls of gay people in the media.

Discuss gay characters in video games.

Madame Adequate
11-10-2010, 11:20 PM
I saw the thread title and I was totally going to use New Vegas as an example. Only I was going to say you can be a gay character and nothing bad comes of it, in fact it can open more dialog options etc.

Hurrah for Obsidian!

Bolivar
11-10-2010, 11:27 PM
Well I'm playing Valkyria Chronicles DLC: Enter the Edy Detachment right now, and the game goes to lengths to make you sure just how gay the buff lancer is on your team. He has subtle hints of make-up, speaks with the expected actor gay-voice, a lisp, calls everyone sweetie (even the tanks he blows up), and has character abilities such as "Fancies Men" where he giddily proclaims "Look at all these muscles!!!"

While he's a strong dude who reliably gets a considerably macho job done, with a strong sense of fighting for what's right, he's unfortunately nowhere near the forward-moving character Arcade seems to be.

He's a stereotype within a stereotype, but honeslty, that's what the cast of Valkyria Chronicles characters was meant to be. You pick a large roster out of a large pool at the beginning of the game, and not all characters work well together, even disliking eachother, and when they're in eachother's vicinity, and both of their abilities going down. I wouldn't be surprised if there was an insecure, overcompensating homophobe available as well.

Madame Adequate
11-10-2010, 11:31 PM
Oh, also, ending spoilers about Arcade Gannon for New Vegas:

If he gets captured by the Legion and forced to be Caesar's personal doctor, he guts himself with a scalpel to escape it. Bad. Ass.

kotora
11-11-2010, 12:43 AM
Solid Snake and Otacon were pretty competent in their respective fields

Laddy
11-11-2010, 01:50 AM
Yeah. Arcade's pretty win and very well-written. I believe Veronica is gay too, but I haven't picked her up yet.

EDIT: I also like how much of a smartass is, it's a nice contrast to his very moral personality. He's kinda like Zervran, but good. In fact, he's one of the most moral characters I've seen in a CRPG.

NeoCracker
11-11-2010, 02:55 AM
Veronica is gay, possibly by, and she's my favorite companion. I love the line 'PUnching, the gift that keeps on giving' so much. :love:

Madame Adequate
11-11-2010, 04:20 AM
Wait, Veronica is gay? God damnit why didn't I pick her up with my last character instead of sticking with Boone forever :( Now I'm a MAN and I have Veronica but her adorable love is forever beyond my reach.

Roogle
11-11-2010, 08:13 PM
The media will eventually want to avoid the use of this trope: Bury Your Gays (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BuryYourGays)

I think that it is a very progressive approach to include a moral, upright character in the roster that happens to be homosexual. Like any minority, proper care needs to be taken to make sure that they are properly represented without unfortunate implications (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnfortunateImplications).

NorthernChaosGod
11-12-2010, 02:36 AM
Dude, why would you link to two TVTropes pages? :|

Madame Adequate
11-12-2010, 02:42 AM
Because there is no kill like overkill (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill), of course!

DMKA
11-12-2010, 05:10 AM
Aside of games like Fable where the character is one of your own shaping, I can't think of any game I've ever played where there was a gay character that wasn't stereotypically flamboyant/effeminate, except for the electric dude in Metal Gear Solid 3...but he was technically bisexual.

So that's pretty cool.

G13
11-12-2010, 02:11 PM
Wasn't there a gay character in Enchanted Arms? I'm not sure it was a dude tbh, I didn't play enough of that game to find out. :/

Roto13
11-12-2010, 03:39 PM
Zangief is gay. Believe it.

DMKA
11-12-2010, 03:52 PM
Zangief is gay. Believe it.

Eh it's implied in a few of the SF games but never really confirmed. But I like to think that he is. :)

I think the only SF character who is 100% confirmed gay was Eagle (though I think this was lost in translation), and that's only because Capcom decided they wanted to pay tribute to Freddie Mercury. :p

Mirage
11-13-2010, 01:29 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if there was an insecure, overcompensating homophobe available as well.
Pretty sure there is one character in the game with jann (the gay lancer's name)-hater or something like that as a potential. I've never used jann very much though so I don't know what sort of dialogue you get when the potential activates.

I also want to point out that there is a fair amount of male characters with the "fancies men" potential, and females with the "fancies girls" potential (and a few with both fancies men and girls), and many of them don't sound very stereotypical.

Psychotic
11-13-2010, 06:47 AM
Arcade Gannon is a what?! Good lord! :monocle: brb I have to take care of something

Okay, just rushed over to the Old Mormon Fort and smashed his head in with a tire iron. Thanks for the heads up, Laddy, you can never be too careful with this kind of thing!

On an actual serious note, Jimmy from Bully is a great example. I used to make a habit of making out with boys in front of the Jocks in the locker room. Then beating up said jocks. All while wearing tighty-wighties and a pirate hat. :shobon:

Meat Puppet
11-13-2010, 08:11 AM
I don’t like it when people call Francis from Left 4 Dead gay, because I always fantasized him as an epic womanizer. But there is so much evidence for his homosexuality

Roogle
11-15-2010, 08:12 PM
Eh it's implied in a few of the SF games but never really confirmed. But I like to think that he is. :)

Yes, there are only implications about Zangief and his sexuality. The Street Fighter series suffers from a fragmented existence over multiple platforms and genres.

Shlup
11-15-2010, 09:10 PM
DMKA mentioned the Fable games, but they're very gay friendly. A lot of the townsfolk are gay, and your character can have relations with men or women as you please. In Fable II there's a side quest where you help a young farmer come out to his father with adorable results.

Otis_Glicker
11-15-2010, 11:14 PM
Anyone play Earthbound? Jeff's best friend, the one that helps him sneak out of school was confirmed to be gay for some reason by the creators. Strange that they'd make such a small character gay, but I thought I'd mention it for those who didn't know.