Mafia XVIII Game Thread: Welcome To The Soul Society

[[M] Dee]

... and that surprises you?

[[M] D'Anna]

Scratch that.

##Vote: Shinji

I might axe him purely to see if Jin's telling the truth. If he would speak in English, this wouldn't be the case, but whatever. He needs to cooperate.

[[M] Apollo]

And what role do you believe Shinji just claimed Kurotsuchi? There's no way anyone could get a role claim out of what he just said.

[[M] D'Anna]

Shinji: I beg of you, please try to communicate better! I don't want to lynch you if you're being honest, but I can't even understand what you're saying!

[[M] Mom – Host]

Day 4 Vote History

Shinji votes Rukia

Ulquiorra votes Rukia

Ulquiorra unvotes Rukia

Ulquiorra votes Kisuke

Ulquiorra unvotes Kisuke

Ulquiorra votes Jin Kariya

Ulquiorra unvotes Jin Kariya

Jin Kariya votes Shinji

Kisuke votes Orihime

Rukia votes Shinji

Ulquiorra votes Shinji

Kisuke votes for Shinji Invalid vote for not unvoting Orihime

Mayuri votes Ulquiorra

Kisuke votes Rukia Invalid vote for not unvoting Orihime

Rukia unvotes Shinji

Rukia votes Ulquiorra

Rukia unvotes Ulquiorra

Rukia votes Shinji

Kisuke unvotes Shinji Invalid vote for not unvoting Orihime

Kisuke votes for Shinji Invalid vote for not unvoting Orihime

[[M] Elize]

Captain Hitsugaya;2950586']And what role do you believe Shinji just claimed Kurotsuchi? There's no way anyone could get a role claim out of what he just said.


Kisuke Urahara;2950577']Trasnlation: Shadow of my insight to help me did not last night. I listened to the expected different results. My guilt is the light of the comparison

Perhaps I may be finding things where they do not exist Captain Hitsugaya, but these words stuck out to me as ones an investigative role would reference.

[[M] D'Anna]

##Unvote: Orihime
##Vote: Shinji

[[M] D'Anna]

Oh god, he's rolcelaiming cop guys.

[[M] Dee]

good for him

[[M] Eizen]

あなたが説教を覚えていますか? 彼は群れに私を歓迎した。私は自由になった。しかし、特定のドアが開いて宿泊...

吸血鬼は右で十分です。私は本当に脱出か?それとも夢だったんだ?

[[M] Elize]

Ulquiorra, your comments are not assisting us.

[[M] Elize]

Translation: Do you remember the sermon? He welcomed me into the crowd. I was free. However, the specific room door is open ...

The vampire is enough right. How do I escape it? or was a dream?

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Well, this is interesting.

[[M] Elize]

I believe he is referring to Jin Kariya at the end. A Bount is similar to a vampire, after all.

[[M] Dee]

and that matters because?

[[M] Felix]

Well, he's flipping cult.

I'm pretty sure he just admitted cult.

'Do you remember the sermon? He welcomed me into the crowd. I was free. However, the specific room door is open ...

The vampire is enough right. How do I escape it? or was a dream?'

[[M] Elize]

Would Shinji Hirako being a Cultist disprove Jin Kariya's claim? Somebody mentioned that Cultists show innocent upon investigation. Is this true?

[[M] Eizen]

Rukia Kuchiki;2950600']Well, he's flipping cult.

I'm pretty sure he just admitted cult.

'Do you remember the sermon? He welcomed me into the crowd. I was free. However, the specific room door is open ...

The vampire is enough right. How do I escape it? or was a dream?'
藍染 惣右介忘れてしまいましたか？それとも、あなたは急いで？

[[M] Dee]

good for you shinji

[[M] Felix]

Normally yes, but we'll worry about that after we lynch him.

I dont' think there is any hope of him being pro-town.

We'll learn what to do about Jin soon enough.

[[M] Eizen]

あなたは何もしません。

[[M] Elize]

He mentions Aizen, the Preacher. What possible nature could that role have, and what impact has it had on Shinji Hirako? Explain further, Shinji Hirako. Your life is hanging in the balance!

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Mayuri Kurotsuchi;2950607']He mentions Aizen, the Preacher. What possible nature could that role have, and what impact has it had on Shinji Hirako? Explain further, Shinji Hirako. Your life is hanging in the balance!

Maybe he's talking about how I cast the lynching vote.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

On Aizen I mean.

[[M] Dee]

ieyui
nobomenu
renmiri
yojuyogo
hasetekanae
_

[[M] D'Anna]

That's FFX lyrics to Hymn of the Fayth.

[[M] D'Anna]

Shinji, try to be as non-cryptic as possible.

[[M] Dee]

hehe

[[M] Dee]

hehehehehe

[[M] D'Anna]

Ulquiorra, please try to contribute more.

[[M] Dee]

Ulquiorra;2950610']ieyui
nobomenu
renmiri
yojuyogo
hasetekanae
_
lets finish this

[[M] Mom – Host]

Shinji is 2 votes away from a majority lynch

Ulquiorra focus on the task at hand.

[[M] Eizen]

◄That's too bad.► ◄I'm sorry.► ◄Thank you.►

[[M] Dee]

hc, youruined my fun, I was going to give out tidbits of information I gleaned when they answered each question

[[M] Felix]

I hate to be the one to say this, but just about all that CAN be contributed to Shinji has basically been contributed.

We can't be sure of what he's saying due to it's cryptic nature, he's seen acting very scummy the past couple days prior to the freak out, and no one has come up with a single thing that can be stated in his defense.

Same with the actions of the new comers, they've been here so shortly we don't have much at all to go on.

Orihime has been more acitve now then ever, though I'm puzzled as to why this is when someone would come out.

Hitsugaya made it here, and was active the previous day. Though he has said little each time he comes around.

Those last two points are all that haven't been touched upon really.

Though we may learn of Orihime's reason after tonight, though I'm not entirely sure if that'll happen, the only real topic I can imagine anyone would have much to say on is Hitsugaya.

I don't really have anything at all to say about either of them though, just neither one has been a major player in anything so far.

[[M] Felix]

Oh, big bad old guy telling us how to play.

What, is Ulquiorra poking fun ruffling your feathers?

Finally someone refuses to participate in your sick and twisted game, and you're having none of that.

I think my earlier assessment of you holds true. :colbert:

[[M] Dee]

If shinji really is part of the cult, he really should be considered townie since Soifon died. Or do cult members still have some objective

[[M] D'Anna]

*sigh*

I would first like to say for the first time in this game I have no idea. No idea on what to do next. I have doubted almost everyone's intentions at some point. It seems, according to many players, I have ascended to the role of leader, and while I certainly enjoy such a prospect, I have no idea what to do.

I want to believe Shinji-assuming I understand him correctly-but that's just too hard to do and he is virtually impossible to read.

I strongly want Ulquiorra to play better, because right now he just screams bad news for the town, as his posts are either meaningless, nonsenscial, ambigous, or taunting. I think he fancies himself a power player, but he is not. :cool:

I want to lynch either Gin or Shinji soon to verify Jin's cop roleclaim, because if we do so than we are set for the next day or two in terms of targets.

I really, really hope Rukia's not playing me, but the possibility is still there. Sorry Rukia!

Orihume and the silver-haired guy are ambigous as well, and I have my suspicions but we have far more important things to focus on than some semi-active players.

Mayuri is another mystery, as he seems to try to play logically, but he could literally be anything as he has a rather odd choice of targets.

[[M] Dee]

##unvote: shinji
##vote: head captain

let us revel in the chaos

[[M] D'Anna]

Cults can still win after the leader died.

[[M] D'Anna]

Stop it, Ulquiorra, you're getting to be a real pain.

[[M] Dee]

Kisuke Urahara;2950628']*sigh*


I strongly want Ulquiorra to play better, because right now he just screams bad news for the town, as his posts are either meaningless, nonsenscial, ambigous, or taunting. I think he fancies himself a power player, but he is not. :cool:
.

that is not true, I'm just throwing in some confusion for the fun of it

[[M] D'Anna]

Well, we're not having fun and I politely ask you to try to contriubte beyond pointing out the obvious or being silly.

[[M] D'Anna]

Besides, the only confusion you're creating is the confusion as to why you signed up to play in the first place.

[[M] Elize]

I believe everyone active at this present moment has voted for Shinji Hirako excluding myself, so a majority lynch is unlikely to happen yet. Part of me still wishes for Shinji Hirako to reveal more information, though little of what he has said has been of any use. As I mentioned previous, his death will no doubt yield more clues than his words.

[[M] Dee]

fine if you are really going to be such a buzzkill, I will play logically from now on
##unvote: head captain

the truth is, as Shinji is now harmless and useless, we really have no choice but to lynch him and see waht happens. We will have to play our bet and hope the cards are in our favor

sorry shinji
##VOTE: SHINJI

[[M] D'Anna]

Ulqui unvoted.

[[M] D'Anna]

Nevermind.

I don't mean to be a buzzkill, but this behavior just gets in the way of the people who want to play seriously.

[[M] Dee]

would the next poster kindly vote for shinji so we may progress to the next day

[[M] D'Anna]

Sorry. :)

[[M] Mom – Host]

Ulquiorra, in case you have not noticed this game has been nothing but confusion and chaos. So so much I want to tell you all, broken needles do bring tears to this old man's eye

Rukia, you love me really ;)

[[M] Dee]

I understand, at first I was trying to be irritating, then cold, and then just random, so now I will play with logic and numbers, which can usually be relied upon

[[M] Elize]

There is still two votes until lynch, if I am not mistaken. However I will vote for Shinji Hirako now in the hope that it will sate Ulquiorra and he may focus his attention on more beneficial actions.

##Unvote: [M] Ulquiorra
##Vote: [M] Shinji Hirako

[[M] Mom – Host]

And that vote brings Day 4 to a close flavor to follow. Or am I wrong?

[[M] D'Anna]

Sweet, let's hope this crazy day ends on a high note!

[[M] Elize]

I believe you are wrong, Head Captain Yamamoto. You stated earlier there were two votes left to lynch, and I was the only new vote on Shinji Hirako since then. What trickery have you in store?

[[M] Felix]

Yeah, 5/10 have voted I believe.

DOn't you need a 6/10 to lynch?

[[M] D'Anna]

Hated Townie!

[[M] D'Anna]

..Or not.

[[M] Mom – Host]

It would appear I am wrong. 1 more vote to go! My bad Ulquiorra damn you for confusing me :p

[[M] Elize]

I think I must echo previous statements: This is all very confusing.

[[M] D'Anna]

Cripes.

[[M] Elize]

The urge to vote for Ulquiorra is quite strong. He has managed to confuse even Head Captain Yamamoto.

[[M] Dee]

Orihime Inoue;2948273']##VOTE: Shinji Hirako
Things are getting that little bit more mixed up now.

can this count, i need sleep

[[M] D'Anna]

God knows I want to, but let's try to not vote too personally.

[[M] Mom – Host]

And they thought Del Murder's Mind Smurf was tough to comprend! Welcome to Shattered Dreamer's Nightmare :p

[[M] Dee]

Mayuri Kurotsuchi;2950655']The urge to vote for Ulquiorra is quite strong. He has managed to confuse even Head Captain Yamamoto.

ah, go jump in a lake, ive been up for 26 hours and i wont sleep until shinji is lynched

[[M] Apollo]

So then, shall I seal Shinji's fate? The arguments against him do seem to make sense to me. Or perhaps I'll hold onto my vote a little longer? I do want to hear what Gin would have to say about all of this before I decide to vote Shinji. Though, I'm not sure if it's really necessary.

[[M] D'Anna]

If we axe Shinji now we have a better idea of Gin and Jin's roles. And I'm busy tomorrow and I need sleep xP

[[M] Mom – Host]

Ulquiorra;2950659']
Mayuri Kurotsuchi;2950655']The urge to vote for Ulquiorra is quite strong. He has managed to confuse even Head Captain Yamamoto.

ah, go jump in a lake, ive been up for 26 hours and i wont sleep until shinji is lynched

It's 6:30am where I am but I gotta hang around because we are so close to a majority! Well I'll hang on 30mins more

[[M] Dee]

Captain Hitsugaya;2950660']##votee: shinji.

please, i need to sleep

[[M] Elize]

Kisuke Urahara is right. We will learn much about Gin Ichimaru from Shinji Hirako's death.

[[M] D'Anna]

Do want you want, though.

[[M] Dee]

zzzz

[[M] Felix]

I think we ALL want to sleep.

Please vote Captain Hitsugaya. ;_;

[[M] Dee]

Rukia Kuchiki;2950668']I think we ALL want to sleep.

Please vote Captain Hitsugaya. ;_;

or we'll vote for you

[[M] D'Anna]

No. Don't vote for him. It'll just take longer. It's almost 1AM over here!

[[M] Dee]

same here, i was being ironic

[[M] D'Anna]

Ok. Good. xD

[[M] Apollo]

Ah the pressure is mounting on me! x_X

*fails resistance*

##Vote: Shinji Hirako

[[M] Dee]

yay

[[M] D'Anna]

Sweet and Holy Cthulu I can go to sleep.

[[M] Dee]

not yet, hc what are the findings

[[M] Felix]

Captain Hitsugaya;2950673']Ah the pressure is mounting on me! x_X

*fails resistance*

##Vote: Shinji Hirako

Play Table top RPGs much? :P

[[M] D'Anna]

Be patient. :cool:

[[M] Mom – Host]

Day 4 is over for real this time!!!

"Shinji Hirako, your peers have decided it is you that is too face punishment by death for plotting against the Soul Society. I hope you die with no regrets & that this serves as proof that webs of a deceitful nature are a very hard thing to maintain"

Shinji Hirako was the Godfather's Personal Security/Cult Leader played by Genius Lynx. Well done I thought you might win at one point but alas

Night 4 everyone send me your night actions. Day 5 will begin in around 12 hours ish.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Day 5 is here already people!

"Members of the 13 Court Guard Squads, our war against the mafia & cultist threat continues!. This morning I have a mix bag of news to report to you. It would appear from evidence found with her body this morning that visitor to our fair Soul Society, Orihime Inoue, was a part of the cultist threat. It is a shame to see someone so young die but it was in the end for the good of the Soul Society.

"A second victim was found this morning, former Captain Gin Ichimaru. Our relationship with the former Captain has been strained over the past few Day and Nights but it would seem that unfortunately for us, Gin was a part of the solution not the problem as most of us thought he was".

Orihime Inoue was Town Security Guard /Cultist played by Shoden. Well played my friend good showing to be sure.

Gin Ichimaru was a Miller played by Caboose. Not a bad showing at all especially with the deck stacked against you so early, amazed you lasted this long :p

Day 5 will last 24 1/2 hours (I promise). There are 7 players left so a majority lynch of just 4 will send someone to the gallows.

[[M] Felix]

So, we have three dead cultists so far.

With three dead, there were still nights 1-4 for recruiting, depending on if the Mafia/Cult Leader could vote or not, which I am assuming he could, the max is seven, which would leave us a max total of four.

Of course, we only have eight town left now, and I doubt they currently hold that many.

My guess is two left, maybe one. I'd wager we don't need to worry about them right now, though if there are Ideas on who they might be, it could help out. I for one have no Idea.

Whats strikes me as odd is why there were two deaths today, I wouldn't think the Poisoner woudl come into play right now given the time of her death.

Either there is a very awkward clause in her role pm, not very likely I imagine, or we have a town who shot either Orihime or Gin thinking they were against us.

My guess? SOmeone still thought Gin was town after Shinji was shot down. So we have a Vig, or some variant on it, running around.

[[M] Felix]

Sorry, seven players, not eight. :p

[[M] Felix]

And it'll be a bit before I respond, for now I am off to work. ENjoy what little information I was able to offer up.

[[M] Felix]

Oh, and one last thing, everyone in Soul Society with bigger boobs then me is officially dead.

I have the biggest rack of them all!

:love:

[[M] Mom – Host]

List of players still alive Day 5

Rukia Kuchiki
Kisuke Urahara
Renji Abarai (I found a replacement so he's back in the game)
Captain Hitsugaya
Jin Kariya
Ulquiorra
Mayuri Kurotsuchi

[[M] Mom – Host]

A note for Day 5

A majority lynch will not be carried out between the hours of 7:30pm-12pm (Noon tomorrow) Irish time (its 6:50pm now if that helps you work out the time difference) because I'm not gonna be near a computer ( it is Saturday night after all) and will probably need some time to sleep off the effects of alcohol.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Hi guys. I'm Renji's replacement. It'll take me a while to read the entire list of previous comments and votes so bear with me.

[[M] Apollo]

Welcome Renji's replacement. Anyways, it appears that seven of us remain? And, look at that! Gin was a Miller, just as he said. This would explain his Guilty reading from Jin, who is currently alive! I suggest that we consult with our cop on his next finding.

[[M] Apollo]

Rukia Kuchiki;2950812']Oh, and one last thing, everyone in Soul Society with bigger boobs then me is officially dead.

I have the biggest rack of them all!

:love:

*facepalms*

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Captain Hitsugaya;2950827']This would explain his Guilty reading from Jin, who is currently alive! I suggest that we consult with our cop on his next finding.

Due to not getting a vital message(my PM box was full), I didn't investigate anyone last night. Sorry.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Of course, since cult probably comes up innocent, and the Mafia most likely consists of the Godfather, I don't know what good I can do.

[[M] Apollo]

*facepalms* So you didn't get the message from Head Captain in the other thread to delete your PM box? Well, that is great. I guess all we can do now is take what we learned yesterday.

So about yesterday, we had two newcomers introduced by the Head Captain, Mayuri Kurotsuchi and Ulquiorra. Both seem reliable, but I'm not sure about Ulquiorra as I find him very questionable.

[[M] Dee]

ok if jin is innocent, then that leaves:
all of you.


I told you guys gin was townie!

[[M] Dee]

Captain Hitsugaya;2950855']*facepalms* So you didn't get the message from Head Captain in the other thread to delete your PM box? Well, that is great. I guess all we can do now is take what we learned yesterday.

So about yesterday, we had two newcomers introduced by the Head Captain, Mayuri Kurotsuchi and Ulquiorra. Both seem reliable, but I'm not sure about Ulquiorra as I find him very questionable.

whatever, at this point you either have to take my every word for true, or consider everything a lie

[[M] Apollo]

Ulquiorra;2950865']ok if jin is innocent, then that leaves:
all of you.


I told you guys gin was townie!

I never doubted Gin as anti-town.

[[M] D'Anna]

I though I died at first! xD Okay, so we have to crack down onother players. We're good with Jin, as he is confirmed cop due to his investigations. (Unless he's lying...!)

[[M] Dee]

renji, rukia, and the doctor are on the top of my to study list

[[M] D'Anna]

The doctor? Who claimed doctor?

[[M] D'Anna]

And, Ulquiorra, how did you know Gin was town?

[[M] Dee]

the doctor is what I'm calling the guy I was accusing of being a spy last night

[[M] D'Anna]

Which was?

And how do you know that he was a doctor or spy?

[[M] Dee]

he is a doctor in the manga. I was thinking that since both of us appeared on the same night, one of us has to be bed

[[M] D'Anna]

Please stop referring to the manga, not all of us are aware of it and it only serves as confusion to other players.

And you still didn't answer my question.

[[M] Dee]

he is a doctor in the anime also, and I'm only guessing he isn't townie, I am not for sure about it

[[M] D'Anna]

But who is he!?

And you STILL didn't answer my question.

[[M] Dee]

the doctor is that m- guy who pops up and voted for me last night, and that is an answer!

[[M] Apollo]

I believe he's refering to Kurotsuchi.

[[M] Dee]

that guy

[[M] D'Anna]

Why would you think he isn't townie?

[[M] Dee]

I'm just guessing that surely out of two new people added, one of them would be a mofia

[[M] D'Anna]

Then that leaves a 50% chance it would be yoou.

[[M] Dee]

hey, I say I'm innocent, and If we lose any more townies, mafia wins

[[M] D'Anna]

HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THAT!?

[[M] D'Anna]

And you haven't being saying much of anything, so why should be go purely by what you say?

[[M] Dee]

was I or was I not right about gin, and you arent doing anything either...

[[M] Apollo]

It's impossible for Mafia to win if we lose a townie today. The math doesn't add up. Let's not forget that we still have a possible cult member or two to consider as well.

[[M] Dee]

Captain Hitsugaya;2950895']It's impossible for Mafia to win if we lose a townie today. The math doesn't add up. Let's not forget that we still have a possible cult member or two to consider as well.
holy crap, your right. I meant that we really can't afford to lose a townie today, especially since we can still lose up to TWO people tonight.
there must still be at least one cultist, and at least the mafia leader and another mafia. That would mean only 4 of us are townie

[[M] D'Anna]

Yes, I haven't done anything but play major roles in axing two mafians in a row. Clearly I have nothing to contribute.

And you still have made a single post that was particularly constructive in any sense.

[[M] Dee]

I meant you arent doing anything right now

[[M] D'Anna]

The day just started, first of all. And second all, neither are you!

[[M] Dee]

*sigh*
what is your problem...
of course I'm not doing anything, you wont shut up

[[M] D'Anna]

You are the one saying I'm not doing anything, and yet you fail to make posts of any significance two days in a row.

[[M] Dee]

and I wont tell you anything I have guessed until you tell me whether or not I am trusted

[[M] D'Anna]

You're not. But keeping all of this information only makes you less so.

[[M] Dee]

I don't have a ton of info to say, and what I do have is mostly guesses, do you still want to hear

[[M] D'Anna]

Yes.

[[M] D'Anna]

And you leave. Great.

[[M] Dee]

gleaned information:
I am mint townperson
there is currently a cult leader, and possibly another cultist.
there are at least two mafia members left, including the leader.
we know there is a cult left because last night two people died, even after shinji died.

Renji is almost certainly a mafia, because he has not had any claim to innocence on any day, and was not the first cult leader. Rukia is most likely having something to do with the mafia, because I am innocent, jin is innocent, renji is most likely mafia, and I am counting you as innocent, which leaves either she is cult or mafia. Captain histugaya is probably the current cult leader, because he was around two days ago, and me and the doctor were not. Assuming the doctor is innocent because he was reinforcements from the other day. The vigilante, if there is one, did not act last night, uless they are also cult, because both deaths were townie.

I will search in a while for more info

[[M] Apollo]

Both deaths from last night were not townies. Have you forgotten that Orihime also turned up Cultist? And why would I be the current leader of the cult if I was around two days ago? So was pretty much everyone else besides you and the other reinforcement.

[[M] Dee]

I meant, a townie, and ex townie. Orihime wasnt a cult leader, so someone else must be, unless she was killed at the very beginning of last night

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

I am not a mafia. I am a townsperson. In fact, I would pose the idea that possibly either Rukia or Toshiro are a mafia/cult on a single basis. Besides myself, Jin and Kisuke, the only other members that were here when the governer stopped Gin's execution were Rukia and Toshiro. By process of elimination, one of them must be the governer and one must be mafia/cult. This is assuming Kisuke is not governer, but I don't think he is as he really pushed for Gin to be lynched.

[[M] Dee]

what flavor

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Captain Hitsugaya;2950916']Both deaths from last night were not townies. Have you forgotten that Orihime also turned up Cultist? And why would I be the current leader of the cult if I was around two days ago? So was pretty much everyone else besides you and the other reinforcement.

I think you will find that Gin was a townie. Miller is a townie who if investigated will turn up guilty but who is Pro-town. The miller wins with the town.

[[M] Apollo]

Renji Abarai;2950921']
Captain Hitsugaya;2950916']Both deaths from last night were not townies. Have you forgotten that Orihime also turned up Cultist? And why would I be the current leader of the cult if I was around two days ago? So was pretty much everyone else besides you and the other reinforcement.

I think you will find that Gin was a townie. Miller is a townie who if investigated will turn up guilty but who is Pro-town. The miller wins with the town.

I was trying to point out that Orihime also ended up Cult, so both being townies is incorrect. I said earlier that I never doubt Gin being pro-town.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Captain Hitsugaya;2950922']
Renji Abarai;2950921']
Captain Hitsugaya;2950916']Both deaths from last night were not townies. Have you forgotten that Orihime also turned up Cultist? And why would I be the current leader of the cult if I was around two days ago? So was pretty much everyone else besides you and the other reinforcement.

I think you will find that Gin was a townie. Miller is a townie who if investigated will turn up guilty but who is Pro-town. The miller wins with the town.

My mistake. But I would like your opinion on my previos comment. Is there any faulty logic in it?
I was trying to point out that Orihime also ended up Cult, so both being townies is incorrect. I said earlier that I never doubt Gin being pro-town.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Renji Abarai;2950923']
Captain Hitsugaya;2950922']
Renji Abarai;2950921']
Captain Hitsugaya;2950916']Both deaths from last night were not townies. Have you forgotten that Orihime also turned up Cultist? And why would I be the current leader of the cult if I was around two days ago? So was pretty much everyone else besides you and the other reinforcement.

I think you will find that Gin was a townie. Miller is a townie who if investigated will turn up guilty but who is Pro-town. The miller wins with the town.

My mistake. But I would like your opinion on my previos comment. Is there any faulty logic in it?
I was trying to point out that Orihime also ended up Cult, so both being townies is incorrect. I said earlier that I never doubt Gin being pro-town.

I kinda smurfed up that last post. Sorry.

[[M] Apollo]

So according to you, it all comes down to me and Rukia then? One of us must be a Governor, and the other Cult/Mafia?

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Captain Hitsugaya;2950925']So according to you, it all comes down to me and Rukia then? One of us must be a Governor, and the other Cult/Mafia?

Its not all on you two. Obviously kurotsuchi and ulqiorra are still to be evaluated and judged by their peers. But by the logic presented, one of you must be a governer and the other must have an anti-town role.

[[M] Dee]

what does that make me

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Ulquiorra;2950927']what does that make me

An unknown viariable in this, as yet, incomplete equation.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Captain Hitsugaya;2950855']*facepalms* So you didn't get the message from Head Captain in the other thread to delete your PM box? Well, that is great. I guess all we can do now is take what we learned yesterday.

I asked him something which filled up my PM box, and I didn't realize. Should have investigated anyway.

[[M] Elize]

Ulquiorra's insistence that there is another Cult Leader is interesting. Are we to assume that the Cult receives a new leader each time the previous one is killed? In that case, the Cult is a serious threat that must be stamped out immediately. Besides, we have already seen the Cult recruit power roles on both Town and Mafia side. At this point, it is quite possible that even Jin Kariya could be compromised.

So how do we approach this new day? I, for one, am going to agree with Ulquiorra. Both of us entered the game at the same time, and since I am a Vigilante, he must be anti-town.

##Vote: [M] Ulquiorra

[[M] Felix]

You know what, I'm tempted to believe Mayuri on the soul basis that Vig on his part is the most logical claim of the game.

[[M] Elize]

My thoughts on the identity of the Governor: The Governor has used his/her ability to save only Gin Ichimaru, but as we have learned, Gin Ichimaru wasn't the Governor himself. Therefore, the person who saved Gin Ichimaru is unlikely to be a person who voted for him. Yoruichi and Shinji Hirako are inverted on this: they were not saved, so it is likely that the Governor thought them guilty and so would have also voted for them.

As far as I am aware, only Captain Hitsugaya can fit my theory.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Mayuri Kurotsuchi;2950938']My thoughts on the identity of the Governor: The Governor has used his/her ability to save only Gin Ichimaru, but as we have learned, Gin Ichimaru wasn't the Governor himself. Therefore, the person who saved Gin Ichimaru is unlikely to be a person who voted for him. Yoruichi and Shinji Hirako are inverted on this: they were not saved, so it is likely that the Governor thought them guilty and so would have also voted for them.

As far as I am aware, only Captain Hitsugaya can fit my theory.
So by your reckoning, Ulqiorra and Rukia are the remaining scum?

[[M] Dee]

I bet your the cult leader then, Your trying to get away from the fact that i said one of us has to be bad by accusing me.

Also,
...
I forgot what I was gonna say....
anyways:

##vote: renji

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Ulquiorra;2950940']I bet your the cult leader then, Your trying to get away from the fact that i said one of us has to be bad by accusing me.

Also,
...
I forgot what I was gonna say....
anyways:

##vote: renji

If you notice I accused no-one. I was confirming what Kurotsuchi was saying.

[[M] Elize]

With my opinion on Captain Hitsugaya already given, as well as my thoughts on Ulquiorra, this leaves me with the following players:

Jin Kariya - His Cop role claim is sturdy, but like I already said, it does not mean he hasn't been compromised. The fact he did not receive an investigation last night might have been because his Mognet Message box was full, or perhaps he lost his ability when recruited.

Renji Abarai - Renji Abarai is my top pick for a final Mafia member. The fact that he was inactive is unfortunate, but so far both of the confirmed Mafia were quiet (excluding Yoruichi in this evalution, of course). It would be quite easy for all of the Mafia to lay low as the town picks itself apart.

Rukia Kuchiki - Rukia Kuchiki is my next pick for a final Mafia member. She has been the opposite of the other Mafia members -- active participation and quite a central personality. This could put her at odds with the Mafia in an attempt to cover up a connection, but she has put her neck out by being active and has helped secure the deaths of both Yoruichi and Shinji Hirako. I still feel she is innocent.

Kisuke Urahara - I am still convinced Kisuke Urahara is a strong Town asset. However there is a chance he has been compromised by the Cult. I believe many people missed his role claim as Apothecary, which, if it was serious (I was unsure), makes sense given the presence of the Poisoner.

[[M] Dee]

I was talking to doc renji

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Mayuri Kurotsuchi;2950942']With my opinion on Captain Hitsugaya already given, as well as my thoughts on Ulquiorra, this leaves me with the following players:

Jin Kariya - His Cop role claim is sturdy, but like I already said, it does not mean he hasn't been compromised. The fact he did not receive an investigation last night might have been because his Mognet Message box was full, or perhaps he lost his ability when recruited.

Renji Abarai - Renji Abarai is my top pick for a final Mafia member. The fact that he was inactive is unfortunate, but so far both of the confirmed Mafia were quiet (excluding Yoruichi in this evalution, of course). It would be quite easy for all of the Mafia to lay low as the town picks itself apart.

Rukia Kuchiki - Rukia Kuchiki is my next pick for a final Mafia member. She has been the opposite of the other Mafia members -- active participation and quite a central personality. This could put her at odds with the Mafia in an attempt to cover up a connection, but she has put her neck out by being active and has helped secure the deaths of both Yoruichi and Shinji Hirako. I still feel she is innocent.

Kisuke Urahara - I am still convinced Kisuke Urahara is a strong Town asset. However there is a chance he has been compromised by the Cult. I believe many people missed his role claim as Apothecary, which, if it was serious (I was unsure), makes sense given the presence of the Poisoner.

You have forgotten the doctor.

[[M] Elize]

Are you claiming to be the Doctor then?

[[M] Dee]

no, you are doc, and you are suspicious

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Yes. I would also like to point out that the silence of the previous player should not reflect on me.

[[M] Dee]

thats not it

[[M] Elize]

I don't know what to make of this. It would make sense for a Doctor to be present. However if you are the Doctor, that's unlucky for the town, as it meant we were without a Doctor for most of the game.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Don't blame that on me. I just took over the account today.

[[M] Elize]

There is no way to test your role claim save for me shooting at you tonight. However that leaves the Mafia free to kill and the Cult free to recruit, if both are still present.

[[M] Dee]

he is not doc, there is no doc

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

There is a doctor in every mafia game, Ulquiorra.

[[M] D'Anna]

I'm convinced there is only one Mafian left. Games typically have 3-5 Mafians, and since 3 have gone and this game has a smaller size, it is good reason to believe there is only one remaining.

My Thoughts
Jin-His claim seems to ring truem I just wish he was more active,

Renji-He claimed doctor. He is inactive. I want to believe his claim, but we can't be sure.

Ulqiuorrra-He is muddled, irrational, and gives conflicting, useless, or just plain wrong information. I might press him to see if he slips up, but we can't be sure.

Mayuri- I can't read him. He is obviously a strong player, which makes him harder to read. I'm leaning town, but I can't be too sure.

Rukia-Alas, my best friend of this game still faced the possibility of being evil! She has played a role in axing Mafians, but was that just to cover her up? I'm leaning towards cult for her.

[[M] D'Anna]

How would you know there is no doc, Ulquiorra.

[[M] Elize]

Not necessarily Renji Abarai, but it would be quite strange to lack a Doctor.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Kisuke Urahara;2950954']I'm convinced there is only one Mafian left. Games typically have 3-5 Mafians, and since 3 have gone and this game has a smaller size, it is good reason to believe there is only one remaining.

My Thoughts
Jin-His claim seems to ring truem I just wish he was more active,

Renji-He claimed doctor. He is inactive. I want to believe his claim, but we can't be sure.

Ulqiuorrra-He is muddled, irrational, and gives conflicting, useless, or just plain wrong information. I might press him to see if he slips up, but we can't be sure.

Mayuri- I can't read him. He is obviously a strong player, which makes him harder to read. I'm leaning town, but I can't be too sure.

Rukia-Alas, my best friend of this game still faced the possibility of being evil! She has played a role in axing Mafians, but was that just to cover her up? I'm leaning towards cult for her.

You've neglected to mention Hitsugya!

[[M] D'Anna]

Has a game of Mafia ever lacked a doctor?

[[M] Elize]

Here? I'm not sure. I have played other games where a Doctor is not present. The Town is usually strengthened to cover for this. We do not know the nature of the Preacher role, nor Town Security Guard. But a Doctor is still most likely present.

[[M] D'Anna]

Good lord I forgot about that guy.

[[M] Dee]

oh....
well, I am just mint townie

[[M] D'Anna]

Care to remind us what that is?

[[M] Elize]

I imagine it is Ulquiorra's way of saying Vanilla Town. Mint is a flavor, as is Vanilla. Though being deliberately confusing is not very helpful, Ulquiorra, and only reinforces my assessment that you are a bad omen.

[[M] Dee]

I like mint better

[[M] D'Anna]

Me too, but this is not Mint.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Ulquiorra clearly doesn't like the taste of vanilla :p

[[M] D'Anna]

Ulquiorra, give us a lengthy explanation as to why we should believe your'e innocent.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Head Captain Yamamoto;2950966']Ulquiorra clearly doesn't like the taste of vanilla :p

You damn drunk Genriyu-san. Were you in the pub? How was the band?

[[M] Elize]

I don't like the taste of Ulquiorra. Taste's like scum of one sort or another.

[[M] Elize]

Kisuke Urahara;2950967']Ulquiorra, give us a lengthy explanation as to why we should believe your'e innocent.

Lengthy would be good, but I think clear would be better.

[[M] Dee]

lol, you guys are syoopid

[[M] Mom – Host]

Renji Abarai;2950968']
Head Captain Yamamoto;2950966']Ulquiorra clearly doesn't like the taste of vanilla :p

You damn drunk Genriyu-san. Were you in the pub? How was the band?

The social life of the Head Captain has no bearing on the game Renji! Focus Lieutenant!

[[M] D'Anna]

We're syoopid, guys!

[[M] Elize]

I cannot live with the shame.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Mayuri Kurotsuchi;2950975']I cannot live with the shame.

Or the spelling!

[[M] Dee]

sutup, youre stoopfd too

[[M] Elize]

I will return later when there are actual events to discuss. Until then, Mayuri Kurotsuchi out.

[[M] D'Anna]

*HEADDESK*

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Goodnight, gentlemen.

[[M] D'Anna]

Farewell everyone.

[[M] Dee]

whereere are you fredss going??????Lk i dfwant ato paty

[[M] Dee]

nah I'm not drunk just kidding, have a nice sleeps, and doc, would you mind unvoting me so we dont wake up with me dead

[[M] D'Anna]

Your strange behavior, inconsistent claims, and general hard-to-deal-with personality warrant a second vote.

##Vote: Ulquiorra

[[M] Dee]

you're very irratable arent you. will it be cheating if I quote the role post I got

[[M] D'Anna]

Yes!

[[M] Mom – Host]

I will mod kill you if you post your Role PM.

[[M] Dee]

ok, I commit suicide, I dont make a good ulquiora anyways

[[M] D'Anna]

Then post your role PM.

[[M] Apollo]

Posting your role PM would also give us one less person that we have to worry about. By all means, if you want to give us that advantage go right ahead.

[[M] Dee]

I wont do it...

Heres something urahara, I have no more info, everything has been said

[[M] D'Anna]

That's it? That's really it? You have no more comments on anything?

[[M] D'Anna]

Especially with that little trick you pulled?

[[M] Dee]

?

[[M] D'Anna]

Insisting out of nowhere to kill yourself, just to detract it for no apparent reason?

[[M] Dee]

i was joking, whats your problem

[[M] Apollo]

It is a rather foolish move on your part Ulquiorra, and is quite a distraction.

[[M] Dee]

sorry then. someone has do die today and if it has to be me to prove my inocence, fine

[[M] D'Anna]

And don't call me an asshole.

[[M] Dee]

sorry, I guess you arent who I thought you were....
I retract my rude comment

[[M] D'Anna]

:colbert:

[[M] Dee]

I'm totally serious, I was using it as a name, not as a mean label, but if you didn't get it, then you aren't the user I thought you were....

[[M] Dee]

do you really want me to commit suicide that much?

[[M] D'Anna]

Commit suicide if you want to.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Kisuke & Ulquiorra can we please keep the argument relevant to the game. Ulquiorra please no swearing!

It is worth noting misconduct within a game of Mafia isn't viewed to favorable by the EoFF moderators.

Please keep the arguments as friendly as possible and remember Mafia is just a game :)

[[M] Felix]

Also, I think it's around now I should mention I was the one who started a campaign against Shinji, who was not only Mafia, but the Cult Leader, which as far as town would have known, cult leader was gone.

What purpose would a cult have of trying to get their only real power card lynched? That is a huge draw back to the cult. If I was cult, leading that would be dumb for a couple reasons.

1) It draws out the game since cult could no longer recruit.

2) It puts the cult farther away from a majority, which also forces cult to keep themselves alive from both town lynchings and mob kills. The Mafia benefit for lynching one of their own proves ineffectual when said lynch kills their only advantage.

[[M] Elize]

Ulquiorra if you wish to die then die within the rules of the game. Roleclaiming is a simple process: paraphrase your role Mognet Message and everything is fine.

[[M] Dee]

I am Vanilla Townie

does that count?

I really am sorry Kisuke, I thought you were Kotora....
please forgive me, once you find out who I am, you will realize I never curse intentionally

[[M] Mom – Host]

Ulquiorra;2951018']I am Vanilla Townie

does that count?

I really am sorry Kisuke, I thought you were Kotora....
please forgive me, once you find out who I am, you will realize I never curse intentionally

I see nothing against the rules with this role claim

[[M] Apollo]

Rukia Kuchiki;2951015']Also, I think it's around now I should mention I was the one who started a campaign against Shinji, who was not only Mafia, but the Cult Leader, which as far as town would have known, cult leader was gone.


But remember, he did put you out on the spot by voting for you. Would you still campaign against him if he hadn't vote for you?

[[M] Dee]

I win with town.
There, that's all I got for ya

[[M] Felix]

Little tangent here.

SInce I can post a quote by who ever I want, with what ever I want in the quote box, posting a role PM is no more legit then just saying what you are.

It offers no advantage, it doesn't magically offer any details that you could not have otherwise given yourself, and it's just as easy to lie your ass off with a role pm as it is a role claim.

Of course this is just filler conversation awaiting a replay to my defense on the possiblity of being Cult. :p

[[M] D'Anna]

Fair enough. While he did vote for you first, I doubt either of you would have ultimately attempted to axe each other if you were both Cult.

[[M] Dee]

meh, here, does this count;

Head Captain Yamamoto']You are A Bolognia Sandwich

- You win by not being eaten
- You should avoid fat guys
- During the day phase you add mustard.

[[M] D'Anna]

:I

[[M] D'Anna]

Bologna is mispelled.

[[M] Apollo]

You know, I am kinda hungry. *stares at Ulquiorra*

[[M] Dee]

doh!

fine, so are you guys gonna get me, are we going after Renji, or are we gonna go stalk someone else?

[[M] Dee]

Captain Hitsugaya;2951029']You know, I am kinda hungry. *stares at Ulquiorra*

uh-oh

[[M] D'Anna]

I don't know. I really have suspicion on you, but I also have difficulty fully believeing Renji's role claim. Perhaps I should wait for him to come on.

[[M] Dee]

whatever floats your boat

[[M] Mom – Host]

I am actually laughing reading the bologna sandwich comment :lol: Ulquiorra as annoying as can be all is forgiven after that :bigsmile:

[[M] Felix]

And yes, I'd go after Shinji without a doubt.

And he hardly put me on the spot, not a person said anything about it.

He was already being passed off as kind of dumb, a vote from him at that point meant nothing with his refusal to back up anything he said.

That said, I dont' think you're the 'governer' as some people have suggested. I proclaim perhaps Orihime, the town security guard, was the one preventing the lynch of Gin.

That's just guessing that the nature of the town security guard was that though, it's possible nothing substantial will come of that musing.

[[M] Dee]

I'm glad someone appreciates it

[[M] Felix]

That was in response to Hitsugaya. :p

[[M] Dee]

That was in response to HC. :)

[[M] D'Anna]

I would likely find that funny if I had a sense of humor. Unfortunately, on both accounts, I don't.

[[M] Elize]

Rukia Kuchiki;2951035']
That's just guessing that the nature of the town security guard was that though, it's possible nothing substantial will come of that musing.

Don't forget that Shinji Hirako's role was Godfather's Personal Security. I imagine that these roles might have been connected somehow.

[[M] Elize]

And also the fact that they were both Cultists as well.

[[M] D'Anna]

Perhaps his posts could reflect that? I doubt it, seeing as the trasnlations are :bou::bou::bou::bou: and make no mention anyways.

[[M] Apollo]

Rukia Kuchiki;2951035']
That said, I dont' think you're the 'governer' as some people have suggested. I proclaim perhaps Orihime, the town security guard, was the one preventing the lynch of Gin.
.

Why would Orihime be the one to prevent Gin's lynch? It doesn't make sense if she had her vote on him on that day.

[[M] Felix]

Typically isn't there some kind of color link between connected roles though? It's probably safe to assume that the roles weren't related, and honestly I don't think a link between Shinji and Orihime can be found outside of their flips, so even if there is a relationship it's likely impossible to determine right now.

[[M] Dee]

goodnight guys, sleep tight, don't start a mafia fight

[[M] Elize]

It could be a Sibling set up Rukia Kuchiki. Though I imagine the flavor would have informed us that Inoue Orihime commited suicide if so.

[[M] Elize]

But you are right, determining a connection at this point is highly unlikely.

[[M] Dee]

that makes no sense

[[M] Elize]

What makes no sense, Ulquiorra?

[[M] Apollo]

I'm pretty sure there's no real connection between Shinji and Orihime besides the fact they were both in the Cult.