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G13
02-06-2011, 08:48 AM
Oh yes, it's another one of those threads. Prepare to have your minds blown as I take a deeper look into Final Fantasy XII. :D

We'll start off on the more obvious similarities.







http://dl.dropbox.com/u/546201/lukeandvaan.jpg


Vaan is obviously Luke. A sandy-haired youth who dreams of leaving the desert to become a pilot/sky pirate? Come on, that's just ridiculously too similar! Also, they're both quite possibly the most annoying little bastards in their respective stories. Don't get me wrong, I love SW and I respect the Skywalker name, but Luke was such a bitch in A New Hope. And Vaan's voice just bothers the hell out of me.








http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100506184851/finalfantasy/images/thumb/1/1b/Penelo.jpg/356px-Penelo.jpghttp://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080421225729/starwars/images/thumb/9/94/C3PO_EP3.jpg/318px-C3PO_EP3.jpg


I never used Penelo, I thought she had absolutely nothing to do with anything going on in the game. It could be my own personal beef with her character that I dub her C-3PO, but I don't care. R2-D2 is too good for her because he was actually useful, openin' doors and :bou::bou::bou::bou: all the time.







http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/EricMiller_photos/ashe_leia-1.jpg


Ashe and Leia, who saw that comin'? They're both feisty former princesses who have a chip on their shoulders from the government that threatens the world/galaxy. Personally, I wouldn't mind skipping ahead to that scene in Return of the Jedi where Ashe is wearing that slave bikini. Can I get a high five... Can I... moving on.







http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cmV7mAxwOj8/R3IRzDdnY6I/AAAAAAAAAVs/oXOiMo3ClPs/s400/balthier_han.jpg


Balthier Solo! So many similarities between these two it's just ridiculous. Both are outlaws, Balthier a sky pirate and Han a smuggler. Both have a furry sidekick (see below). Both were once part of the enemy military. That's right, my inner nerd is showing! Balthier was once a Judge, as I'm sure all of you who played this game are aware, but did you know that Han Solo was once a lieutenant in the military of the First Galactic Empire!?

You did? Well :bou::bou::bou::bou:...







http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cmV7mAxwOj8/R3ISNzdnY7I/AAAAAAAAAV0/UBNPbwIZsY0/s400/fran_chewie.jpg


Enter furry sidekick. Yet another coincidental background in this tale! Both Fran and Chewbacca hail from forest environments. Their homes are identical. Huts built into hollowed out trees and wooden bridges connecting them all. They also both ride bitch in the ships. What up wit dat? And both have strange dialects. Chewy sounds like a door creaking on its hinges and Fran's accent is... well you have a tough time making out what she's saying because all your attention is on her revealing outfit.







http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/EricMiller_photos/basch_obiwan.jpg


The wise old (in one case) war veteran. Both are loyal to the side of good and feel the need to protect their companions, though only one died for them.







http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080203015310/finalfantasy/images/thumb/4/45/Gamnan.JPG/344px-Gamnan.JPGhttp://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081210174522/starwars/images/thumb/5/58/BobaFettMain2.jpg/273px-BobaFettMain2.jpg


As much as it pains me to say this, Ba'Gamnan and Boba Fett are one and the same. A bounty hunter chasing down the smuggler/sky pirate? Seriously, how much more similar can we make Han and Balthier?


It only gets dumber from here on out.


You would think that Vayne Solidor and Gabranth would be our candidates for Vader and Sidious, seeing as how they have direct ties with the Empire and make the most sense. Vader and Sidious' relationship is more complex than that. Much like these two XII characters:







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http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070711234027/finalfantasy/images/2/29/Venat.jpghttp://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080808031313/starwars/images/thumb/d/d4/Palpycropped.jpg/298px-Palpycropped.jpg


Doctor Cidolfus Demen Bunansa is our Darth Vader and Venat is Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious. You might be thinking why. They don't fit the bill. Where's the scary helmet?

Vader and Palpatine's relationship is a lot like Cid and Venat's. Vader was lured to the Dark Side with promises of ultimate power, and Cid, being a scientist, got some powerful information from the Occuria. Venat, however, was just using Cid as a puppet to get what he wanted, a lot like how Palpatine was using Vader.

Also, Cid and Vader were cut down by their own children (Vader not so much, but that severed hand and labored breathing certainly wasn't in his favor to begin with). Not so much “Hey look, these are dead on rip-offs”, but just interesting similarities.

And yet more similarities that have no pictures 'cause I'm lazy.

Archadian Empire – Galactic Empire

Party – Rebel Alliance

Urutan-Yensa – Tusken Raiders

Garif – Ewoks – A tribe of furry people who don't realize we have technology

Viera – Wookiees

Judges – Glorified Stormtroopers

And the pièce de résistance, the smurfing Death Star. Oh it's there, you just need to look really hard.



















You're not looking hard enough.






























http://www.covershut.com/cd_covers/Final-Fantasy-XII-International-Job-System-JAP-Cd-Cover-17565.jpg
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071113213521/starwars/images/thumb/7/71/DSI_hdapproach.jpg/431px-DSI_hdapproach.jpg

Star Wars! :bigsmile:

Yar
02-06-2011, 08:50 AM
I once asked this Eric guy if I should watch Star Wars and what it was about. He told me that if I had played Final Fantasy XII, I've seen Star Wars.

G13
02-06-2011, 08:56 AM
htf do you remember that?

Freya
02-06-2011, 09:02 AM
IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE NOW! My mind is blown. Squenix are just rip offs.

Jiro
02-06-2011, 10:48 AM
I watched A New Hope with the woman last night. I was like HEY THAT GUY IS BIGGS AND HIS BUDDY IS WEDGE THEY'RE RECURRING CHARACTERS IN FINAL FANTASY and she just :stare: I'm watching Star Wars already, lay off the nerdy :bou::bou::bou::bou: dude.

My woman calls me dude :blush:

Jessweeee♪
02-06-2011, 07:55 PM
Star Wars is Flash Gordon!

Remon
02-06-2011, 09:56 PM
hahaha It fits so well!

The Viera = Wookie thing is too much.

G13
02-07-2011, 10:41 AM
The Viera = Wookie thing is too much.

I can't tell what side of the "too much" fence you're sitting on.

They are the same culturally. Wood-dwellers! Play through to Eruyt village and then go to Kashyyyk on KotOR. Same freaking setup, yo! Plus, Wookiees and Viera are dead sexy. I love me some walking carpet action.

Anyways... observe!

Kashyyk...




http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://images.wikia.com/aliens/images/9/92/Mcq-kashyyyk.jpg&sa=X&ei=J71PTZvZHobSsAPf-pCXCg&ved=0CAQQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNGBjpO5ZVYygQKsrqhnR8MPWRfhqA



http://www.awn.com/files/imagepicker/1/church06_KashyyykStarWars-E.jpg



And Eruyt...

Bloody hell! There are no good images of Eruyt. I'll make my own! :bigsmile:




http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/EricMiller_photos/d39d95f6-1.jpg



http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/EricMiller_photos/830px-Eruyt_village-1.jpg



http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7z0uojGw91qa6wvao1_500.jpg

Rantz
02-07-2011, 11:29 AM
Oh god press yes I always press no accidentally because I'm punching through the dialogue and I have to hear it FIVE HOOTING TIMES

Remon
02-07-2011, 02:15 PM
The hair just makes them that different.

dejeud
02-08-2011, 12:04 AM
Ha ha,
Hate to admit it, but you're right.
But then again, FF (least latest ones, 7,8,10) seemed to like references to Star Wars (I believe Briggs and what's his other name have been in the ff since 5).
What I hate is the elaborate maze built on FF12.
What I liked most about FF was the open space with little dungeons (mazes?).
FF12 is just a rat maze.

G13
02-08-2011, 02:43 AM
Oh man, Biggs and Wedge are on a completely different level. This is bigger than XII guys. This is series wide! We have to warn the public!

G13
02-08-2011, 09:39 AM
smurf it. It's a risky maneuver but I'm going for it! Biggs and Wedge are in XII!





http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070315124202/starwars/images/thumb/2/20/Biggs.jpg/394px-Biggs.jpg

Biggs Darklighter

Luke's Childhood friend. He takes off for "the academy" at the beginning of A New Hope (in a deleted and very hard to acquire scene).





http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091013004203/starwars/images/thumb/d/d9/Wedge-helmetless.jpg/315px-Wedge-helmetless.jpg

Wedge Antilles

You remember that asshole that questioned Luke's ability to shoot a wamp rat in a T-16 back home? Yeah, that's him. You can bet your sweet tuckus he went home and cried his eyes out 'cause he wasn't Admiral Ackbars favorite pupil anymore. No one can do that, not even a computer. Shut up! :mad2:





http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100814123550/finalfantasy/images/0/02/FFXII-GibbsDeweg.png

Gibbs and Deweg (anagrams of Biggs and Wedge)

Ever the comic relief for FF, Gibbs and Deweg are the Archadian soldiers that block your path to the Mosphoran Highwaste in Nalbina, stating that it is too dangerous for travelers at this time. There are many cutscenes with these two, talking about the sand settling in places where "sand shouldn't be" and other soldierly complaints until one of them reveals they hate the stink of Chocobos or some :bou::bou::bou::bou:. I don't quite remember.

Also, this has been brought to my attention:


The hair just makes them that different.





http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cmV7mAxwOj8/R3ISNzdnY7I/AAAAAAAAAV0/UBNPbwIZsY0/s400/fran_chewie.jpg




Do you remember this picture? :bigsmile:

Well there's something else you may have overlooked. :bigsmile:

I know I certainly did. :bigsmile:

I'll show you. :bigsmile:





http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/EricMiller_photos/fran_chewie-1.jpg




They both use bows! Granted, Chewy's is a bowcaster, but it's a bow nonetheless.

And the hair thing? Psh! I think it's enough that both sidekicks to the handsome rogues are animalisitc. Where Chewy has a full body beard going on Fran has bunny ears, a tail, and claws on each of her appendages. I think where the hair falls short everything else makes up for it.

G13
02-08-2011, 11:09 AM
This is also relevant.


http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100414145960/finalfantasy/images/f/f5/XII_Leviathan.jpg

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070424053724/starwars/images/thumb/a/a7/ISD_arrow.jpg/381px-ISD_arrow.jpg

Steve
02-18-2011, 01:11 PM
Eric dude, youre aa freak but I love it so. Plus Basch is like 40 which compared to our party is pretty fucking old. Also Obi Wan Kenobi is a war vet or did we just forget the clone wars?

*Devore*
02-19-2011, 02:32 AM
Death Star=Sky Fortress Bahamut.

All these similarities with star wars might be the reason why i like this game so much. Star wars is awesome, so a game based on it is really good.

Roogle
02-24-2011, 10:54 PM
I will admit that the parallels between Star Wars and Final Fantasy XII are very interesting. I have seen people draw similar parallels between other movies, like Avatar and Dances with Wolves. I think that the Balthier and Fran to Han Solo and Chewbacca comparison is spot on.

Del Murder
03-01-2011, 05:43 AM
This is a great thread. I thought my FFVIII = Star Wars comparison was pretty good but this is beautiful.

G13
03-01-2011, 07:10 AM
Oh man, I want to see that comparison!

Del Murder
03-01-2011, 07:44 AM
I made that thread like 2 months after I joined. I think it was pruned. :(

G13
03-01-2011, 08:01 AM
That is the saddest thing I've heard all day, and I've been watching Lifetime since two. :(

Del Murder
03-01-2011, 03:45 PM
I did not know you were a woman.

G13
03-02-2011, 01:19 AM
I, uh... it was my old lady's idea! :shifty:

Those poor, abused women. :cry:

G13
06-03-2011, 11:16 AM
Someone recognizes greatness ( http://www.nintendolife.com/forums/general_discussion/square_enix_fan_club?start=20#reply-23) :smug:

Jiro
06-03-2011, 01:34 PM
omfg man, you're famous!

EDIT: and now the hunt begins to find out who the hell that guy is here, if at all.

Jessweeee♪
06-04-2011, 09:29 PM
It's hilarious when people take this connection seriously without realizing that Star Wars is just a Flash Gordon remake with enough differences to avoid getting sued. (http://moongadget.com/origins/flash.html) xD

G13
06-07-2011, 03:00 AM
I don't need to read that to know it's all a lie! :nonono:

Del Murder
06-07-2011, 07:06 PM
This thread should win the Ciddies.

LikeaLion
06-09-2011, 11:42 PM
It's hilarious when people take this connection seriously without realizing that Star Wars is just a Flash Gordon remake with enough differences to avoid getting sued. (http://moongadget.com/origins/flash.html) xD

Yeah, quite a few movies either influenced or inspired Star Wars. :D
Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress was one of those films that had a major influence on Lucas.

Mercen-X
06-11-2011, 09:49 PM
If there is anyone in this forum who is going to be dimwitted enough to suggest Square should be sued for copyright infringement or that they're less awesome because they "ripped off" Star Wars, I will personally hunt them down and hang them over a garbage heap.

That being said... yes, there are a lot of similarities between XII and SW and frankly, I been waiting years to see a game that could half-properly simulate the awesomeness of SW. My only regret in the game is that you can't keep both the Sword of Kings and Treaty Blade... and that they've only got 30ATK. They remind me of the Oblivion and Oathkeeper Keyblades... is this yet another theme I'm overlooking? I know that some games the Murasame/Muramasa is sometimes paired/opposite the Masamune...
okay, so, now what was I saying?

KentaRawr!
06-18-2011, 01:29 AM
Fran isn't Chewbacca because Chewbacca doesn't have boobs.

Del Murder
06-18-2011, 02:33 AM
You don't know what he has under that fur.

Mercen-X
06-18-2011, 11:13 PM
I now am genuinely afraid...

G13
06-19-2011, 11:48 AM
Chewbacca is like a dog-monkey-thing, so assume he has six nipples.

champagne supernova
06-19-2011, 04:16 PM
I have seen people draw similar parallels between other movies, like Avatar and Dances with Wolves.

Or Pocahontas - http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/130283/original.jpg

Yeah, XII did come across very Star Warsy and most of the comparisons are fairly spot on - although a part of me wants Gabranth to be Vader.

Rowan
06-21-2011, 05:08 AM
I knew the storyline was similar to that of Star Wars, but those character comparisons blew my mind... I had no idea...

What were they THINKING??

Jessweeee♪
06-21-2011, 05:27 AM
They're very old characters, predating even the Flash Gordon example I linked to above!

G13
06-21-2011, 01:14 PM
Flash Gordon. :argh:

Mercen-X
06-24-2011, 02:36 AM
Flesh Hardon - (musical) ooooh!

G13
06-28-2011, 12:09 PM
:ciddie:

Jiro
06-30-2011, 03:19 PM
Congratulations on your Ciddie, OP. [!]Now this thread belongs to the smurfing Misfits dawgs, so back the smurf up or join us.[/!]

[!]You don't get to take this from me you cockknob[/!]