Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon!

[Jinx]

hawt


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[Jinx]

According to the Wiki he married Visenya out of duty, and Rhaenys for love.

SO, yes. Based on that history, there could have been a secret marriage, as it mirrors Aegon I.

I STILL think it's dumb, but more possible than I did before. And all the people who would have known about it (remember, only a handful of people were kept at the Tower of Joy) are dead. Yes, Bran blah blah. But who will really believe this creepy af kid? I guess he can Houdini some shit like he did with Sansa.

For what it's worth, I do think that if Jon is a legitimate Targaryen, the fallout from Danaerys finding out will be beautiful. She's not giving him that throne. Not now.

[Shaibana]

hawt


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yesss hawt. they need to make a 'spinoff' of their conquest and other parts of the history of Westeros.
i believe they already planned on something like that?

[Jinx]

All I know is that I want Rhaenys' ass.

[BustaMo]

Going back to the crossbow conversation, I just wanna add that I am NOT looking forward to a dragon (or more) being shot. I do have a feeling that this weapon will ultimately down one of the flying beasts. It wouldn't be Game of Thrones without a little more tragedy. :/

[theundeadhero]

The theories for Tyrion being a Targaryen are based on all the book rumors that his mom was sleeping with a Targaryen around the time she became pregnant. I highly doubt its true, since the show left them completely out, but there's your evidence.

[Psychotic]

Yeah the evidence and foreshadowing that exists in the books simply isn't there in the show. If Tyrion = Targ is a thing, it'll be book only.

[BustaMo]

I don't really even question or ponder the Tyrion Targ notion. Tywin never denies Tyrion is his, and obviously it's his wife's kid too since she was the one who dies during childbirth. If the mom was Targaryen, so would Cersei and Jamie. But, the fact Tywin claims him, kinda sticks out to me that it's a blemish on HIS record, no one elses'.

[Jinx]

That's not even in the books, though. It's just another fan theory that MAYBE Aerys slept with Joanna. The whole thing stemmed from the fact Aerys wished he could sleep with her on her wedding night, like kings of old (and possibly he raped her?). Which has nothing to do with Tyrion. According to the Wiki, there were rumors she slept with Aerys before she married Tywin, but I don't recall the books having rumors she had an affair after she married Tywin, nor does the wiki say anything about it. The Wiki says she rarely went to King's Landing, but I suppose it's possible she could have been raped again while there. But I seem to remember reading that, had Aerys ever raped her, Tywin would have pretty much razed KL to the ground.

Still, even if I accept this fan theory as evidence, it's not exactly mountains of evidence or anything. It's just one thing.

[Loony BoB]

I don't really even question or ponder the Tyrion Targ notion. Tywin never denies Tyrion is his, and obviously it's his wife's kid too since she was the one who dies during childbirth. If the mom was Targaryen, so would Cersei and Jamie. But, the fact Tywin claims him, kinda sticks out to me that it's a blemish on HIS record, no one elses'.
I don't know about that. Tywin wouldn't want to openly acknowledge that his wife was cheating on him. He might see an imp son as the lesser of two evils.

[BustaMo]

I don't know about that. Tywin wouldn't want to openly acknowledge that his wife was cheating on him. He might see an imp son as the lesser of two evils.

Hmmmm.... So you think that Tywin wouldn't have put his wife to death before birthing Tyrion for her infidelity, covered it up as an unfortunate accident or similar consequences for public knowledge?

But I agree with you about the less of 2 evils. He did seem pretty shook up about her death even 'til his demise, so I think if she did knock boots with someone else, he woulda got his revenge before she died during childbirth. I just have a feeling this will never be fully clarified for those pondering it.

[theundeadhero]

You all assume he would know about it instead of thinking they're unfounded rumors.

[Doomie]

Nah, I don't especially care if he's a Targaryan or not. There's a ton of supporting evidence of it in the books that goes beyond "rumors that the Mad King may have bedded Joanna". His hair isn't blond, for one, it's bordering on silver. His eyes aren't green, like all Lannisters, but mismatched. Tywin, on more than one occasion, states that he isn't his son (Edit: Looked this one up. I knew it happened a few times, but I could only remember it specifically as Tywin is dying. The other one happens in A Storm of Swords. He tells Tyrion that "Men’s laws give [him] the right to bear [his] name and display [his] colors, since [Tywin] cannot prove that [Tyrion isn't his]," Plus his fondness for dragons and the dragon dreams he had as a child (which Dany also had). Again, don't care personally, just makes sense to me. A book that spent so much time explaining (via Ned Stark) that ALL Lannisters have blond hair and green eyes, and Tyrion has a quarter of those things. Sure, could be a red herring. I prefer to believe an author puts everything there for a purpose.

Edit: OH, and Joanna died during childbirth, like Jon + Dany's mother. Might be a third 'Prince who was Promised'. All conjecture, though.

Edit x2: Tyrion was born in 273AC, Joanna was at the Aerys' anniversary tournament in 272AC, so the timing fits as well.

Edit x3: Even if Jon was Rheagar's son, which I believe he is, it would make him a bastard nonetheless. Therefore, he wouldn't be able to claim the Iron Throne. That being said, I don't think he gives a lick about ruling the kingdom anyway.

[Psychotic]

Episode 4 got leaked.

And I've seen it.

And oh my god it is really, really good.

[Jinx]

Ughhh. I might have to convince Rob to torrent it (I assume that's how you got it, and we've stopped torrenting to not piss off our ISP, but it's been awhile).

Doomie--thanks for the reply! It's been a couple of years since I reread the books and they're massive. But thanks for actually giving your reasoning.

[Doomie]

Ughhh. I might have to convince Rob to torrent it (I assume that's how you got it, and we've stopped torrenting to not piss off our ISP, but it's been awhile).

Doomie--thanks for the reply! It's been a couple of years since I reread the books and they're massive. But thanks for actually giving your reasoning.

I have a link for it, if you'd like me to PM it to you. It seems to be one octave higher, however.

And no problem! I'm just happy the time I spent reading this series four times actually served some purpose beyond proving I'm a massive nerd. :D

[Jinx]

Bah, playback is disabled (so is download) as too many people have accessed it! x)

[Doomie]

Oh snap! I let it buffer a few hours ago and went for a run, so it was ready when I got back.

I'll wait until everyone watches the episode before commenting anything concrete. BUT WHAT A FUCKING EPISODE.

That being said, I think the Jon-Davos dynamic is my new favourite in the series. I feel like those two were made to work together.

[Psychotic]

I have a link for it, if you'd like me to PM it to you. It seems to be one octave higher, however. Yeah someone set it to like 110% speed and I have no idea why, but if you download it instead of streaming you can just play it in VLC and set the speed to 90%. There is an actual normal speed copy out there (it's the one I saw) but I guess the superfast one is the one that's now being shared.

Also, for those who care about such things it's nothing to do with the HBO hack. An Indian streaming service (basically Indian Netflix or Amazon Prime) apparently inadvertently uploaded the file and it was accessible directly through that.

[Jinx]

lol gg

Also, you can directly download from Vimeo. Got my copy sitting on my computer waiting for Denmark to get home. :3

[Freya]

Yeah HBO's website got hacked a few days so ep 4 of GoT has actually been out there I heard but this other way I guess is new? als the new ballers episode is out there too (fun show btw) I've been trying my hardest to avoid getting spoiled. So please mark spoilers in here or just don't post them!

[Psychotic]

I agree that spoilers from Episode 4 shouldn't be posted, even if they are marked. Also, it wasn't from the hack. It was Indian Netflix subtitle translators screwing up.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

I'm cool with waiting til Sunday. Makes the wait for the next episode shorter.

:gator:

[Shaibana]

laughed a little to hard at this one
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[Slothy]

Yeah, no spoilers until it properly airs, but holy shit balls what a fucking episode.

[Jinx]

none of that either, you

[Slothy]

none of that either, you


https://youtu.be/l8ukak8P2vY

[Jinx]

SMURF

[Denmark]

YUP

[Doomie]

Well, seeing as how everyone is itching to talk about this episode, maybe the topic should be diverted to something like what possible intercourse could Grey Worm have had with Missandei.

[Slothy]

Doesn't have to have intercourse if he's a cunning linguist.

[Jinx]

he gave her the lord's kiss

[BustaMo]

Well, seeing as how everyone is itching to talk about this episode, maybe the topic should be diverted to something like what possible intercourse could Grey Worm have had with Missandei.

He seems very submissive when it comes to women. Maybe he was little spoon this time.

[Doomie]

Grey Worm: the most selfless character in the SOIAF universe?

[BustaMo]

Grey Worm: Good with a spear on the battlefield, but not so much in the bedroom.

[Jinx]

I dunno, dude, Missandei seemed pretty happy.

[BustaMo]

Tyrion doesn't seem to have been whoring around lately. He really has changed. Have they made any indications that he's been with a woman since he first got to Essos? I know when he was in the brothel where Jorah captured him he had a chance with one of the Dany look-a-likes, but when he just moped about Shay and left to go take a piss, I think he blew that opportunity to knock the dust off his boots.

[Jinx]

Dude's just been busy, honestly.

[Doomie]

It's funny. Part of me thinks his marriage with Sansa will eventually be consummated. She had always been looking for that Prince, and I feel it's such an odd but fitting happy ending that both of them deserve at this point.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Grey Worm isn't the smiling type but he's gotta have some equivalent to the Podrick smug face. These two are the heroes the realm really needs. The song of ice and fire? More like the song of the cunnilingus king and the brothel king.

:smug:

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[Psychotic]

They really simplified Tyrion's Essos arc compared to the books. In those he went around being actively cruel to whores when they are a group he'd always had a huge amount of empathy for. And no Penny either!

[Shaibana]

i think Tyrion is too 'bussy' for such things.
he actually does something now, he has a purpose, instead of just being the families disapointment, wich i think is the reason he whores himself away

[Loony BoB]

Can I just say that I hate leaks of TV series etc? Like, I really dislike them. I wasn't fully aware of them (I knew they were talking about leaks, but didn't know they were actually out there yet) and I tend to avoid threads like this when I know they're out because, hey, I don't even watch trailers or read reviews or anything at all because I like going in with zero expectations about how good an episode is, who features, etc. Leaks just fuck all that up. I haven't had much spoiled, thankfully, but it still irks the fuck outta me.

I get leaks of information that is being kept secret by governments and shit but leaking TV series is just a giant fucking troll action.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Well since we're still on episode 3 for another day I'll just say RIP to the Dorne and High Garden plotlines. Lady Olenna will definitely go down as having some of the best lines, especially comebacks, in the entire show.

Dorne was one of my favorite set pieces. I loved the oasis in a desert type of look, and there was a lot of fun scenes back when Jaime and Bronn went in to infiltrate. A lot of people were bummed we didn't get to spend as much time there as we would have liked, and didn't like some character motivations, but I think the actors did a great job with what they had to work with. So hats off to these ladies.

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[BustaMo]

I figured Lady Olenna would eventually fade out, but was surprised Jamie didn't put a sword through her when she revealed her secret. Showed a bit of composure, but also how much he's changed since the initial season of the series.

[The Captain]

Dorne was one of my favorite set pieces. I loved the oasis in a desert type of look, and there was a lot of fun scenes back when Jaime and Bronn went in to infiltrate. A lot of people were bummed we didn't get to spend as much time there as we would have liked, and didn't like some character motivations, but I think the actors did a great job with what they had to work with. So hats off to these ladies..

Really? I think most people were very disappointed by the Dorne scenes, especially in the fact that they essentially characterized the Sand Snakes as: the one with a whip, the one with a spear and the one who gets naked and has a knife. In the books, there was much more in-depth info, but I definitely felt the show gave them the shorter end of the plot development. Frankly, I don't blame them per se either since with TV you have a limited time and can't go everywhere but seeing as how Prince Oberyn was one of my all-time favorite characters, it still kind of stunk that Dorne ended up being lame.

I started to watch Episode 4 but it was in such low res quality that about 5 minutes in, I just decided to be a good TV viewer and wait for tonight's proper high def screening. Very excited!

Take care all.

[Psychotic]

Not just Dorne, really, all of the A Dance With Dragon book arcs got cut out. Jon, Tyrion and Daenerys all had significant amounts of their character growth removed. For example Tyrion's depression basically becomes Varys going "lol get up u silly bugger time for an adventure".

Then again, ADWD while an awesome book would be television poison if you actually faithfully adapted it.

[Jinx]

Dorne was one of my favorite set pieces. I loved the oasis in a desert type of look, and there was a lot of fun scenes back when Jaime and Bronn went in to infiltrate. A lot of people were bummed we didn't get to spend as much time there as we would have liked, and didn't like some character motivations, but I think the actors did a great job with what they had to work with. So hats off to these ladies..

Really? I think most people were very disappointed by the Dorne scenes, especially in the fact that they essentially characterized the Sand Snakes as: the one with a whip, the one with a spear and the one who gets naked and has a knife. In the books, there was much more in-depth info, but I definitely felt the show gave them the shorter end of the plot development. Frankly, I don't blame them per se either since with TV you have a limited time and can't go everywhere but seeing as how Prince Oberyn was one of my all-time favorite characters, it still kind of stunk that Dorne ended up being lame.

I started to watch Episode 4 but it was in such low res quality that about 5 minutes in, I just decided to be a good TV viewer and wait for tonight's proper high def screening. Very excited!

Take care all.

Agree with LWL that the stuff between Jaime and Bronn was fun. But mostly I think he was saying that Dorne was gorgeous, and it absolutely was. Every time it showed up on screen, I would say, "Ugh, it's so beautiful!" I think they shot it in Spain? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wherever it was was stunning.

[Jinx]

Not just Dorne, really, all of the A Dance With Dragon book arcs got cut out. Jon, Tyrion and Daenerys all had significant amounts of their character growth removed. For example Tyrion's depression basically becomes Varys going "lol get up u silly bugger time for an adventure".

Then again, ADWD while an awesome book would be television poison if you actually faithfully adapted it.

Yeah, with so much inner dialogue, it'd be boringish on screen. Also, just take forever.

I used to get really upset about the discrepancies between the books and show. Finally I learned how to love the bomb and just accept, while different, it just means we end up getting two really fun (at times good) stories.

[The Captain]

In keeping with the books and show being different, what exactly does everything think is the reason that Beric and the Brotherhood are still around? It's just a bit different than the books...

One interesting theory I heard was: That Beric would need to give the last kiss to revive Jon again after he ventures North since we probably are never getting Lady Stoneheart and Beric's fate seems tied into doing something like that.

Still, with so few episodes left and time being so precious, clearly they are being set up for something important and not to just go North and become cannon fodder.

Thoughts?

Take care all.

[Psychotic]

I used to get really upset about the discrepancies between the books and show. Finally I learned how to love the bomb and just accept, while different, it just means we end up getting two really fun (at times good) stories.I agree, they're both good in their own right but you have to treat them as separate things. There's one discrepancy that I find really, really hard to apply that rule to though. Stannis, and in particular Stannis being killed by Brienne as she prattles on about Renly.

Renly's whole clam to the throne was that he's more likeable than Stannis when he really fucking isn't. Renly is actually an arsehole. He mocks Shireen and indeed Brienne for their physical appearance behind their backs, whereas Stannis steps up to bat for the likes of Davos (lords don't like my Onion Knight? too bad, piss off) and who couldn't love his love for Proudwing? :3:

With that said, Show Stannis deserved to die. He didn't deserve to die for offing that shithead Renly though, he deserved to die for what he did to Shireen. imho the show would've been a thousand times more powerful if it had been Davos who did it to the man he viewed as a god as justice for Shireen, not the Renly bollocks we were served up.

[Jinx]

Does it bother you that he was killed by Brienne, or that he was killed by Brienne to avenge Renly?

Because if it's the former, you can't really be mad (as we haven't gotten to that point in the books yet, it very well may happen that way).

I agree with you about it needed to be Davos who killed Stannis, though. He respected and idolized him so much, seeing his hero and savior were neither of those things would've been a lot more powerful. And for Brienne, I think the more powerful narrative is her holding to her oath to Catelyn and watching out for Sansa.

[Psychotic]

Very much the latter. I like Brienne, and she deserved (and indeed found in the likes of Cat, Jaime and Pod) better than Renly, who only put her on his Kingsguard because Barristan was AWOL.

[Loony BoB]

As much as it might have been interesting to see Davos kill Stannis, I prefer how things turned out. I just don't see him as a murderer. Perhaps it would have been cool if, upon finding out what happened, Davos confronted and then attacked and killed Stannis, I guess.

Davos is too cuddly to be seen killing too much <3 Brienne was the better choice, I felt, despite the poorer background.

Curious, hopefully someone can answer before the next show airs: Who is in charge of Tyrell/Martell now with the recent deaths we've seen? Anyone? Or have the Lannisters now added even more songs about rain?

[Slothy]

I'm gonna go ahead and guess whoever is in charge of the Reach is either a Lannister or Lannister ally. No point in taking it just to let it go back to a member of the family that turned on them. As for Dorne: who the hell knows? My guess is power vacuum. I mean Oberyn's daughters are all dead, Doctor Bashir and his kid are both dead, so either some distant family member steps up and bends da knee to Cersei because they are weak and don't want to die or it's pandemonium as people fight to take control.

[Loony BoB]

Ah, you replied just as I was editing my post. xD I should have said House Tyrell/Martell, not The Reach/Dorne.

A bit of (very brief) research online suggests both houses are now potentially extinct.

[Slothy]

In that case I'd bet they're either all dead or so close that in 15 years we'll get a Martell invading from another continent with an army of giant cobras.

[The Captain]

What are the odds that by the end of this show MOST of the prominent houses are extinct? The Freys are essentially gone, as are the Tyrells, the Martells, the Baratheons (Where is GENDRY!?) and a bunch others.

If memory serves, aren't the Tarlys now in charge of the region, since they sided with the Lannisters against the Tyrells?

Take care all.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Agree with LWL that the stuff between Jaime and Bronn was fun. But mostly I think he was saying that Dorne was gorgeous, and it absolutely was. Every time it showed up on screen, I would say, "Ugh, it's so beautiful!" I think they shot it in Spain? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wherever it was was stunning.

Yeah, you nailed it.

I basically meant to say that Dorne was beautiful and a few of the scenes there were fun, but it was largely underwhelming. But it wasn't the actors fault they got so little screen time or weird character motivations (ie: Kill your lover's brother and his son), so I just wanted to give credit where credit was due.

[Jinx]

As much as it might have been interesting to see Davos kill Stannis, I prefer how things turned out. I just don't see him as a murderer. Perhaps it would have been cool if, upon finding out what happened, Davos confronted and then attacked and killed Stannis, I guess.

Davos is too cuddly to be seen killing too much <3 Brienne was the better choice, I felt, despite the poorer background.

Curious, hopefully someone can answer before the next show airs: Who is in charge of Tyrell/Martell now with the recent deaths we've seen? Anyone? Or have the Lannisters now added even more songs about rain?

Just because you've killed someone doesn't necessarily mean you're a murderer. Davos killing Stannis because he lead thousands of men to their deaths and actually DID murder his daughter would be justice, not murder.

[Jinx]

For the first time in the entire series, Danaerys finally became a queen.

[Freya]

Holy shit. That was holy shit.


Also yay stark siblings!

[Jinx]

Lots of people have told me that I'm full of it that Dany is going Mad Queen: lol y'all see that preview for next week?

But yeah, that scene was so fucking good. I was literally on the edge of my seat when we watched it on Friday. I actually rooted for Dany.

Jaime: is he dead or alive? His real armor is dragging him down hard and fast. Plot armor would indicate he lives. But it's been a long time since a beloved main character has died. I could see him dying and Tyrion becoming valonqar because Cersei's greed pushed Jaime into a battle he couldn't win, and Tyrion kills her because one of the only people who ever loved him died because of her madness.


THAT SAID JAIME NOOOOO he's one of my favorites :(

[Psychotic]

I had no idea who to root for in the battle and I think that's what they were going for. Like, fuck yeah, here comes Drogon let's fuck some shit up, but I also don't want Bronn or Jaime or even Dickon to die. And then Tyrion watching the slaughter with the sad Lannister theme playing. Confusing!

As if Brienne wouldn't crush Arya though :lol:

[Doomie]

I agree with Psy in that the book and television show are now two, distinct entities. I can no longer judge the show based on its faithfulness to the book, which was actually the reason I took a hiatus following Season 5. A Dance With Dragons is almost nonexistent in the show, as are many of its characters. Loras, for example, is supposed to have an equally formidable older brother and a crippled younger one. Seeing the house fully eradicated on the show likely means they won't survive. In which case, I believe whatever's left of that house would probably be given to the Tarlys, as I cannot recall any other distant Tyrell relatives or marriages. Dorne is a little more complicated. There's supposed to be Arriane, and I can't for the life of me remember if she was ever featured on the show. I wouldn't be surprised if Ellaria Sand is kept alive, perhaps to marry Dickon Tarly or something, so that their lands all go to Tarly/Highgarden. That being said, Dorne seems to be quite the free-spirited and independent nation, so I don't see that going over very well.

I cannot imagine Jaime dying. Bronn, very clearly, gets him out of there in time (after which Jaime must literally/metaphorically shed his Lannister gold to save his life). The interactions between those two characters are second only to Jon and Davos, though I really liked how the book paired off Ilyn with Jaime. Uh. I'm so confused. I don't see Bronn surviving the final battles, and I think Jaime is more likely to kill himself than be killed by any dragon. I spent the first five books and the first six seasons wanting Dany to end this trout, once and for all. Until I saw who her first battle was against...and I found myself rooting against her. Perhaps Tyrion will intervene to save his brother/bodyguard?

[Night Fury]

Great episode.

i did just mention to Pheese though that the show is kind of.... not as great as the first 3-4 seasons... it lacks a lot of that atmosphere but I suppose when you kill of powerhouses like Charles Dance some of the finesse is lost.

Loved this episode though that dragon coming up over the mountain scared the shit out of me and Bronn was the MVP.

[Freya]

Bran, chaos is a laddering littlefinger was one of the best moments though. LF doing his weird creepy manipulating thing and bran is like i see your trout. And LF is like, what just happened.

[Jinx]

Yeah, Bronn got him out of the way of the fire, but he's sinking quickly in that armor. I hope he's able to get it off in time.

what was that below them in the water, though?

[Night Fury]

Yeah I think the 'chaos is a ladder' line was my favourite part of the episode.

Arya will kill Littlefinger with that dagger and Bran has seen it.

[Psychotic]

Bronn was the MVP.Yeah, everything he did this episode was golden. Never mind the heroics, but god damn the way he burst out laughing in Dickon Tarly's face about his name was genius. Plus that extended shot of him making his way through the mayhem just like Jon's in BotB was amazing.

Talking of book/show differences, Bronn is definitely one area where the show has the books beaten. He's much more enjoyable in the show (Jerome Flynn is a boss) and also I love that they've given him much more screen time and developed a bromance with Jaime.

[Jinx]

Also the moment when he stared at his spilled gold and made the choice to grab it and flee, or to be the hero of the day. What little there was left to be saved, he saved it.

What's up with Sansa, though? On the first watch through of the leak, I couldn't understand why she was getting so obviously upset at her sister fighting. On the second watch, my conclusion was she's scared of (maybe even for) Arya. When they're in the crypts, she laughs when Arya says she has a list of people she plans on killing, and makes a joke about it in the weirwood. Then fighting with Brienne, I think for the first time she realizes Arya is serious and capable of being ruthless. What do you guys think?

[Freya]

Bran: superpower sight
Arya: superhero murder machine
Jon: literal Jesus revival
Sansa: was raped

Like, seeing that arya became exactly what she wanted, a warrior and herself getting what she wanted, Being a lady, and how different and unsatisfied she was from it maybe?


Also maybe she feels slightly jealous about Brianne maybe also now going to protect arya?

Or... maybe she did it for a show for LF. When she realized the list thing was true when they were talkingto bran, she smiled. But when she sees arya fighting, LF is there. Could be a play.

[Freya]

New theory I saw but I was thinking about:

Dany now knows of the Ballistas. How do you protect your dragons against THAT? Freaking dragon armor.

Who is a great armorsmith who has been rowing a boat for seasons? GENDRY HYPE

[Shaibana]

Omg guys. what a rollercoaster of emotions!!

so much excitement build up the second the Lannisters heard the Dothraki horde that i screamed when Drogon came into the picture. aw damn Khaleesi owned it.
also: i dont really have a camp that i'm in so i was soooooooooo happy when Jamie got saved... i like that guy D:

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as for sansa/arya: i think Sansa see's how much everyone has changed. Jon got from a bastard to a King. Arya from that little boyish girl to a great fighter and Bran is now the 3 eyes raven and there seems to be nothing left of himself.
perhaps Sansa sees that nothing will be as it was, despite being reunited.
they will not be a happy family. they all have their own agenda's and she is just going along with it.

i've replayed the last Uncharted game again and now i cant see Bronn as Bronn :l he is Samuel now.

[Crop]

Great episode.

i did just mention to Pheese though that the show is kind of.... not as great as the first 3-4 seasons... it lacks a lot of that atmosphere but I suppose when you kill of powerhouses like Charles Dance some of the finesse is lost.

Totally agree with this. I've watched the entire thing within two months and the show is noticeably different from the first four seasons. I enjoyed season 5, just plain didn't like season 6 and am so far enjoying season 7. Not as much as the first four seasons, but definitely more than the last two.

This episode was fantastic though. I don't think Jaime will die, I think they writers would have burned him if they wanted to do that, but could he perhaps get taken prisoner?

[Shaibana]

Dickon *chuckles*
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p.s is there a way to make these meme's smaller?

[Psychotic]

re: Houses Tyrell and Martell, I looked into it as it's different from the book continuity where Margaery had three brothers and Prince Doran had three kids. I don't think we're going to see any of these characters at all by the way.

Apparently Margaery's mother is still alive, who is coincidentally Jorah's sister-in-law. I guess it would default to her by the same way it defaulted to Olenna by the show's logic.

In Season 4 Oberyn mentioned having 8 bastard daughters to Cersei and as we know, only three of them are dead. More Sand Sneks? Yes. It's still utterly bizarre that Ellaria (lover not even wife of Oberyn) was the de facto leader of Dorne.

If we were following the book's logic of succession then there would be numerous claims to Highgarden and Sunspear, most likely through distant cousins, and needs to be settled through the Lord Paramount. If you look at Houses Hornwood and Rosby in the books, that's what happened. Yes, I am very sad that I know all of this!

[Loony BoB]

TIL nobody beats Bronn at dodging fire. Has anyone else dodged fire twice in five minutes? Because Bronn did. Still my fave character. He shot the biggest Dragon and survived a direct hit with a leap, and leaped onto a horse-back riding friend of his to push his friend - and himself - to safety. Superpowers schmooperpowers, Bronn is just superhuman.

[Fox]

Me when Arya reunited with Sansa: "It isn't getting any better than this!"
Me when Arya fights Brienne: "Wow, this is definitely the high point of the episode now!"

I then stopped saying such things as I continued to be wrong.

That was seriously good. Even BRAN had some good moments.

[Del Murder]

My gods would it be sick irony if Drogon died from an infection caused by that wound. If Cersei is no fool then she would have had all those spear tips laced with something really bad. That's what killed her Mountain, after all. It would really be the only way to take those dragons down because otherwise you would need a point blank shot to the heart, and other than Bronn there are not a lot of named characters left on that side to have that kind of luck (maybe Cersei herself? seems beneath her to get her hands dirty).

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

I think Jaime survives the water. If he were to be burned up or drowned, I think they just would have went ahead and shown it this episode.

With the Lannister army largely decimated here, I think Cersei will double down on giving Euron what he wants, and that'll really push Jaime over the edge.

[Slothy]

Odds are Dany would want the guy who tried to kill her pulled from the river.

[Night Fury]

I think Dany is going to take Jamie and Bronn prisoner and that's going to put Tyrion in a really weird position.

[Psychotic]

Yeah there's no way that killed Jaime, that's not how GoT does death. There's also no way that lake is that deep given that it was only up to his horse's ankles!

[Doomie]

Yeah there's no way that killed Jaime, that's not how GoT does death. There's also no way that lake is that deep given that it was only up to his horse's ankles!

Ha! Oh man, I completely disregarded that!

I can't wait to see that conversation between Dany, Jaime, and Tyrion. Jaime's Kingslayer-ness aligns with Barristan's assessment of the Mad King. I'm expecting a "if you become him, someone will kill you too." Barristan brought it up, as did Varys and Jon Snow. Whether or not to kill Jaime will be Dany's true test of character. It'll also be what decides whether or not I'm satisfied with seeing her on the throne.

[Psychotic]

On Jaime/Tyrion/Dany, I said this a few years ago:
I want Tyrion to betray Dany for love as he lets the man who killed her father go free.I still want it.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

On Jaime/Tyrion/Dany, I said this a few years ago:
I want Tyrion to betray Dany for love as he lets the man who killed her father go free.I still want it.

Man I love that. That's a theory so good that if it doesn't happen I'll be disappointed now unless they can one up it.

It makes sense. Jaime's the one person in this world that's loved Tyrion his whole life. That'll have one psychological pull on your decision making.

It would also be nice to see a role reversal of season 4, back when Tyrion was locked up and Jaime came to visit him.

[Bubba]

Jaime to be found alive under a dumpster

[Freya]

On Jaime/Tyrion/Dany, I said this a few years ago:
I want Tyrion to betray Dany for love as he lets the man who killed her father go free.I still want it.

Man I love that. That's a theory so good that if it doesn't happen I'll be disappointed now unless they can one up it.

It makes sense. Jaime's the one person in this world that's loved Tyrion his whole life. That'll have one psychological pull on your decision making.

It would also be nice to see a role reversal of season 4, back when Tyrion was locked up and Jaime came to visit him.

OH man I guess I didn't know I wanted this until you guys brought it up. This would be such a good switch.

[Shaibana]

yes! i´d love to see Tyrion and Jamie reunited! that would be very interesting.
Jamie will be a very​ valuable hostage.

[Psychotic]

Jamie will be a very​ valuable hostage.Good job Dany's mother isn't around...

[Shaibana]

Jamie will be a very​ valuable hostage.Good job Dany's mother isn't around...
why is that? :o

[Psychotic]

What happened the last time a monarch took Jaime Lannister hostage?

[Slothy]

Jaime can't afford to spend another season making his way home and losing another hand.

[The Captain]

First off, Bronn is the GOAT when it comes to coming through in the clutch. The man has a knack for pulling off the big move, whether it's winning the trial by combat for Tyrion way back when, to firing that arrow in the Battle of Blackwater. He apparently took the Giant Crossbow Annex course between episodes since he handed that thing like it was part of his body. I really did think this was going to be his swansong, that he'd ultimately die saving Jamie but looks like he will at least live another day.

I think Tyrion now finds himself in an extremely tough situation. The two men (other than Jon Snow) that he likes and respects in the world are now at the mercy of Dany. If they haven't drowned of course and while that would be very GoT to have characters die in a random way, I think Jamie's story isn't over yet. Still, does Dany now try to kill Bronn, for injuring her dragon, and Jamie because he killed her dad? This might be the ultimate test of Tyrion's power of persuasion and I also love the theory posted earlier that he might ultimately have to betray Dany out of love for his brother.

I definitely think someone is getting burnt though, maybe that heel Randyll Tarly? Where was he during that battle anyway?

Also, does this big loss force Cersei to have to accept Euron's offer of marriage now? She's suddenly lost her biggest strength and he might just be out there with all the leverage now.


I think the biggest thing I'm looking forward to next episode, if the trailer seems right, is JON and ARYA reuniting! Jon looks like he's getting back to Winterfell before heading further north and that might finally be the reunion we've all been waiting for.

The next episode is called Eastwatch, so I also wonder, could it be RIP for Tormund and The Night's Watch? The Walkers I would think are finally going to be heard from this season.

Take care all.

[Jinx]

If Tormund died, I will roll heads.

Also Dickon actually seems great and a sweetheart and I'd love to see Randyll bite it and Sam and Dickon reunite. And at the end of the series, when the White Walkers are defeated and The Night's Watch has ended, Sam can take up his rightful place as heir of the Tarly clan if he so chooses. (And the other men of the Night's Watch get the recognition the deserve and get to live out their lives as the choose, and in comfort for being such good boys.)

[Del Murder]

My guess is the Night's Watch is about to become the Night King's Watch.

[Jinx]

Probabaly. Seeing Dolorous Edd as a wight will be gutting, dude.

[Freya]

OH MAN so Tormund and the wildlings are going to eastwatch

i'm assuming jon is cause of the next time mentioning of it

and that's where the hound and berric were headed too!

will eastwatch be our big wight battle scene?

[Loony BoB]

Tag yer reveals from trailers if possible, just for those of us that don't like to watch the trailers (ie spoilers) for the next episode. :) I love being surprised, I think a few others have mentioned that kinda stuff earlier in the thread too.

[Freya]

People who don't like watching "Next time on" trailers to hype themselves up are weird.

[Jinx]

no

[Loony BoB]

Your face is weird. >=O

EDIT: I don't avoid them to hype myself up, but rather to allow for surprise. I prefer going into each episode with zero expectations.

[Crop]

Yeah I'm with BoB. At the end of shows I have to keep my finger ready over the 'off' button to avoid the "next time on..." thing that a lot of TV shows have now.

[Freya]

That's weird, why do you guys do that? Why don't you want to know more about the show? It doesn't usually spoil anything but gives enough to tease you

do you...

do you not watch movie trailers either?

[Jinx]

I mean, I get it.

But the previews for following weeks give almost no information. The clips go by so quickly, you don't even have time to register what might be happening on screen. I'm not marking them as spoilers. If Psy wants to go behind me and do it to, that's his deal. If only Shlup were still around!

[Loony BoB]

I tend to avoid movie trailers for films I already know I want to see, yeah. It's about not knowing what to expect. You guys are already putting together theories about things and that means you go in with expectations and lose a bit of the shock value over things that can happen. It's a personal choice. I mean I can't understand why people would want to spoil things about the next show for themselves. Being impatient for information and sacrificing the impact of a show for the sake of theorycrafting, maybe? I dunno. But whatever floats your boat is cool, I just prefer to be able to discuss GoT with you guys without compromising my enjoyment, and spoiler tags is the easiest way out for that. I like to talk about what was, and guess what will be, without having some massive clues shoved in my face. I mean if a movie stopped half way through and gave a teaser for the next half of the film right in the middle of it I'd be pretty annoyed about that too. I just want to watch it in the order the director wants, not so much the marketers.

If you refuse to spoiler tag such things I'll leave it to staff to decide whether or not that's okay but personally I think it's pretty inconsiderate to not do so given that it's really bloody easy to tag and takes nothing away from those that actually don't care about teaser trailers while still allowing those of us that do to partake in the thread without issue.

[Freya]

Wait....

do you guys not want episode titles either? Cause the episode title gives away a location int he next episode too

[Freya]

Also also, they have new directors for each episode so the director wants to cut if off when they do soooo

[Freya]

Also also also, yeah theorycrafting is half the fun!

[Loony BoB]

Well

[Loony BoB]

I mean

[Freya]

Next time on BoB's post: He may complete his retort!

[Jinx]

I literally don't care.

ALSO, this thread is 95% theorycrafting, why tf are you even coming in here if that ruins the show for you? I genuinely do not understand why you even read it or post in here.

[Loony BoB]

Theory crafting is fun but yeah I don't read the titles for episodes (although not by intent, I've legit never thought about it). Why would I? I just... watch the show. D: I wonder if I've ever gone out of my way to read the episode titles for any show.

[Freya]

So you just... wait... and not think about the show or what has happened and not want to know more? I guess it's hard for me to get why you wouldn't want more info when you enjoy something

[Loony BoB]

I like the theory crafting. I just don't like being told what is coming in the next show. :p 99% of the theory crafting in this thread has nothing to do with teasers. Almost everything in this thread is to do with the aired episodes and reactions to them.

Well, that and the 500 pages of "hey you should tag that" we've gone through. :D

[Freya]

Liar. Half this show/thread was book readers being like

"oh hey guys :D :D guess what :D :D"

until the last two seasons

[Loony BoB]

I don't know if I can explain it in a way that someone who doesn't like doing it would understand. Likewise I don't think you could explain why you would want to watch the teasers, especially if they supposedly give you so little information. I'll try anyway!

I just really like going into an episode with zero knowledge of what's gonna happen, who's story I'll be told, who will meet who, which plotline will resurface, etc. I want to go "ooh, wow" during the episode and ride that feels train the second we see a plotline pick up. I guess it increases my levels of excitement and immersion when I see us move to a new location and I wasn't just waiting for it to happen, but am actually just thrown into it.

Just more enjoyable for me (and others) that way. I can understand the want to talk about things though. Eventually I read a bunch of the bookstuffs and I've enjoyed glimpsing into the book spoilers on occasion. I guess it also ties into those who enjoy discussing a whodunnit movie while it's going on and those who like everyone to shut the hell up so they can get really into it. Just different strokes for different folks. I'm very much the "shut up I'm watching you're ruining this" kinda guy when watching films I've never seen before but I've found it interesting when I've already seen it and two people who haven't are actively discussing it as they watch it with me.

[Loony BoB]

Liar. Half this show/thread was book readers being like

"oh hey guys :D :D guess what :D :D"

until the last two seasons
That's basically what I meant, all those book readers saying stuff like that and all those who hadn't read the books going "omfg mark your goddam spoilers".

[Jinx]

omfg learn how to goddamn read :colbert:

[Loony BoB]

what

[Freya]

If I ever come visit you bob, i'm going to spoil a lot of things just for fun muhahah

[Slothy]

If I ever come visit you bob, i'm going to spoil a lot of things just for fun muhahah

Can I come too? Sounds fun.

[Freya]

"WATCH THIS TRAILER" "noooooooo"

[Jinx]

I would let Freya spoil me. :smug:

[Loony BoB]

I mean I guess I'm just never going to let you visit me now way to go Kaycee gosh.

[Freya]

NO I HAVE TO SEE THAT DAMN CASTLE THERE

[Loony BoB]

You are lessening my potential enjoyment of us potentially meeting because you spoiled what would happen during them.

I find this satisfyingly fitting.

[Freya]

I would go to the UK to visit castles, seeing any eoffers would just be a side trip haha

I mean i'm dressing like a dragon, obsessed with game of thrones. It's only natural I'd want to see castles.

[Loony BoB]

When I got here and toured UK with my mum we basically would just go on road trips, breaking out the map book and looking for the castle icons on the maps so we could go see them. Ruins are my faves more so than completely intact castles because they feel more castle-y when you actually go inside them. The intact ones have all these fancy rooms like "the blue room" with just blue walls and a bunch of old china plates on display or something, it's dumb. I wanna see something that looks like it had battles and shit goin' on.

[Freya]

I hear Spain has great ones too. That's where they film the red keep stuff right?

[Loony BoB]

Oh yeah uh Game of Thrones right yeah maybe I guess

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

I think that if something has aired on HBO programming, it's fair game. Unlike a leak, it's not information that was supposed to be kept from anyone.

I'm open to letting staff decide what should be spoiler tagged. I tend to be in the "talk about the last episode and build theories off it" group, anyway.

Just my 2 cents.

[Crop]

Yeah BoB explained it pretty well. Going into a film or TV Show completely blind enhances the enjoyment for me. I don't even like it when I'm watching something and someone says "oh there's a really good bit coming up soon", it means I'm anticipating something that I probably would have enjoyed more had I not been expecting it.

[The Captain]

Interesting, I never thought of the coming next week trailers as spoilers for anything since they are made to intentionally misdirect and just get people to WANT to watch the next episode (not that GoT needs extra hype or a reason to tune in). Some of my favorite little things about TV trailers, and this might be a little inside baseball (futbol for you non Yanks) but a lot of showrunners put their trailers together to actually kind of troll the audience a little bit anyway. Most famously, if you've ever watched a "Next Episode" trailer for Mad Men, it would literally just be shots of people opening and closing doors and hanging up phones, so you literally have no clue what is coming next except... people will be opening and closing doors or answering a phone.

I expect the remaining episode trailers for GoT to be something like this: DRAGONS! WHITE WALKERS! MORTAL PERIL! Someone getting knocked down but who is it? Fire! Ice! Characters looking scared or angry or brooding. 30 seconds is not really enough time to spoil much of anything, unless they are revealing some unknown character appearing, which I don't think they'd be dumb enough to do.

Movie trailers however, can be different. I have seen 2 minute movie trailers that not only essentially spoil a movie but have all the best jokes and action shots already in them. That to me seems foolish, but again, it's a matter of showing people something that gets them to want to go watch it. Game of Thrones is in the unique IP situation of people tuning in no matter what. It could essentially have no PR at all and would still draw massive ratings.

To each their own.

Take care all.

[Formalhaut]

Eh, yeah, I can see both sides to this. I personally don't mind watching 'next time' teasers at the ends of episodes, but I only rarely watch trailers for films or television shows. I'll watch them sure, but I don't go out of my way to see the latest trailer. Just if it comes up in a cinema trailer or a friend goes "OMG LOOK AT THIS" and shoves their laptop in my face.

I mean if we were to go strict with this, a 'next time' teaser is aired programming, and so doesn't necessarily require a spoiler tag, but I don't think it's so bad to just wrap a piece of text with the tag regardless.

Haven't actually seen the next time teaser for next week as well, though I could've guessed we'd be going back to the Wall at some point.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

"Rickon?"
"...Dickon."


Bronn:

73515

[Shaibana]

Yeah BoB explained it pretty well. Going into a film or TV Show completely blind enhances the enjoyment for me. I don't even like it when I'm watching something and someone says "oh there's a really good bit coming up soon", it means I'm anticipating something that I probably would have enjoyed more had I not been expecting it.

yes, thats exactly how i feel, and because of that i'm doing my very best to avoid seeing anything GoT related, i dont read theories and dont watch the teaser/trailer for the next episode.
i've stopped watching and looking for trailers in general because i've had a couple of movies ruined by searching more stuff of it on the internet

[Night Fury]

Would like to give Liam Cunningham mad props for being the best Geordie accent from a non-Geordie that I've ever seen on TV.

It makes me appreciate his character so much more.

[Jinx]

oh shit son

he's not a geordie???

his accent is really good

[Loony BoB]

Geordie is one of my favourite accents I've heard and I still didn't even realise that was a Geordie accent he was putting on. xD I love his voice though so I guess it chimes in nicely with my love for the Tyneside accent.

[Freya]

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[Psychotic]

hey BoB?

judging from freya's promo pics there's grass in the next episode

WHATTUP ENJOY YOUR SPOILERS

#originalgangster

[Del Murder]

I've also heard from HBO that a character with the last name Stark will be featured in the episode.

[Psychotic]

EYES ON FF EXCLUSIVE LEAK: First two minutes of the episode will feature a model of Westeros set to some stirring orchestral music as people's names appear on the screen.

[Del Murder]

BIG TIME SPOILERS: Characters with the initials JS and DT will have some kind of interaction.

[Freya]

From those images I can tell that
a) characters will be looking off at some things
b) those things may be other characters!

[Jinx]

holy shit i never would have thought they'd put arya holding that valyrian knife to littlefinger's throat in a promo pick goddamn

[Freya]

I mean you should have seen it coming, with how much attention they paid to the knife! It was inevitable! But really, in a promo pic? Way to spoil an entire plotline, HBO. :grumble:

[Jinx]

inb4 bob whines i shared what's in one of the pics

idgaf dude

[Psychotic]

inb4 bob whines i shared what's in one of the pics

idgaf dudethat is seriously uncool why would you do that

[Del Murder]

That was one thing, but did they really have to show that Ed Sheeran's character will be the one who finally finds Gendry? That seemed a little out of place.

[Jinx]

inb4 bob whines i shared what's in one of the pics

idgaf dudethat is seriously uncool why would you do that

:gator:

[Night Fury]

oh trout son

he's not a geordie???

his accent is really good

He's Irish irl.

It's actually a 'Geordie' accent, yes, but it's much more of a pitman's accent which is far more 'my neck of the woods' in Durham way so it's even more impressive. Not that this will mean anything to you guys.

Anyway, the pitman accent is much more 'common' because it was kind of used by the men who would work in the coal mines - so the lowest of the working class. It really suits Davos, with that in mind.

[theundeadhero]

You monsters!

[Freya]

I've got a new theory.

The reason we haven't seen gendry is because the safest place for him would have been the Night's Watch! Doesn't matter who's your daddy, you'll still live there.

SO

They're going to Eastwatch. He was on a boat rowing away, eastwatch is by the sea. They as in smurfing everyone. The Brotherhood without banners who SOLD him will be there even. Gendry is Night's Watch now and Jon will run into him and be like "Oh hay there" and he'd be all "My dad is robert and I know your little sister" and jon will be all "You two need married!"


okay maybe not that last part but a girl could dream, right?

I do think it could be a possibility that he's night's watch though!

[Jinx]

I hope that when he shows up, they don't do a previously on. I want my Gendry to be a surprise, damn it.

[Freya]

also saw this funny picture

https://i.redd.it/q436cq44otez.jpg

[Jinx]

okay, that's good

[The Captain]

If I had to guess... Gendry is probably somewhere in King's Landing minding his own business. If I recall, didn't Davos ask him if the guards at KL knew what he looked like and he said no? Hopefully he didn't find religion and end up at the Sept at the end of last year.... though that would be a really anti-climactic way to just kill his character off.

I wonder if he's going to be a major player or just have a little cameo check-in like Hot Pie?


Also, if you can only save ONE character from dying by the end of the show, and it's not a major character, who would you save? My vote is Podrick.

Take care all.

[Jinx]

Not a major character, hm?

WELL MAESTER LEWIN AND HODOR ALREADY DIED SO FUCKING NO ONE >:[

Oh wait, Lyanna Mormont. Bbgirl deserves to live out her life doing whatever the fuck she damn well pleases on Bear Island when this is all over. Or travel Westeros. WHATEVER SHE WANTS, SHE'S A QUEEN.

[Freya]

Edd. Please don't let him die. All the Night's Watch home boys have passed. Let Edd live

[Freya]

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[Jinx]

good god that's a terrifying thumbnail

[Del Murder]

I hope that when he shows up, they don't do a previously on. I want my Gendry to be a surprise, damn it.
Yeah, it is kind of dumb when they show a previously scene about a character who hasn't appeared in a while. Then it's like, ok I guess they're showing up?

I also pick Lyanna as my save character. She's just too awesome.

[Loony BoB]

Not sure if I can pick between my favourite character, Bronn, and the one I'd probably feel would be the most "unfair" death, Edd, for reasons Freya mentioned. I love both of them but I feel like Bronn has kind of already spent a few of his seemingly nine lives, while Edd and the NW gang have suffered immensely.

[Psychotic]

I hope that when he shows up, they don't do a previously on. I want my Gendry to be a surprise, damn it.
Yeah, it is kind of dumb when they show a previously scene about a character who hasn't appeared in a while. Then it's like, ok I guess they're showing up?Remember that time they faked us out on Uncle Benjen like that?

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

They would most likely do a previously on for Gendry.

People who aren't savvy to internet forums or trying to recollect what characters we haven't seen in years will take one look at him and just be like "who tf is this guy?", which would be lightened with a rowboat throwback or something.

[Loony BoB]

I don't think I've ever seen a 'Previously On' for GoT :o

[Freya]

It is always on right before the intro, how do you watch the show? Illegally?!

[Jinx]

They're on torrented episodes too.

[Loony BoB]

I watch it on Sky Atlantic, often recorded but sometimes live at 2am.

[Crop]

I've never seen it either. I watch it on Now TV every Monday after work.

[Jinx]

Huh, weird. Maybe it's because you guys use UK streaming services?

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

"The things I do for love"

73597

[Freya]

I just remembered about Jorah being cured.

When do you guys think he'll show up again?

[Jinx]

soonTM

[Bubba]

Yeah, Sky Atlantic never show 'previously on' for GoT. Pretty sure Now TV use Sky's coverage so that's why.

I'm kind of glad they don't to be honest. You can tell which way the episode is going to go based on what they're reminding you of.

[Jinx]

Yeah, that's what we're saying. I wish GoT didn't do that. I mean, I GET it, because some people (especially non-book readers, sorry, but you know this to be true) might struggle with remembering a character who was in one episode in season one (Uncle Benjen) who becomes important in season 6 (also Uncle Benjen).

So like, I GET it. But I wish they didn't do that. I want to be surprised, and frankly I think the previously ons are way more spoilery than the 2 second flash clips of the coming week's episodes.

[Del Murder]

Previously on is ok if you are just recapping the last episode or episodes (and I actually like that), but it is super out of place when they bring up scenes from prior seasons.

[Freya]

Like the recent dagger thing. They showed when it was used to try to kill bran, when it was shown by ned to littlefinger. So then you knew going into the episode that that dagger was going to show up again cause they just showed you not one but two scenes involved with it.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Pet peeve: People who watch a show and only look at the screen when loud noises happen.

I know someone who watches Game of Thrones. He's all caught up...and he still doesn't really know anyone's name. He texts and uses his laptop during dialogue scenes, which is 90% of any given show, and just looks up at the screen when explosions happen or a dragon screeches.

And yet he still goes out to drop full price on a new season DVD when it comes out.

I want to slap people who are 10% invested in shows. Watch it or don't.

[Shaibana]

Pet peeve: People who watch a show and only look at the screen when loud noises happen.

I know someone who watches Game of Thrones. He's all caught up...and he still doesn't really know anyone's name. He texts and uses his laptop during dialogue scenes, which is 90% of any given show, and just looks up at the screen when explosions happen or a dragon screeches.

And yet he still goes out to drop full price on a new season DVD when it comes out.

I want to slap people who are 10% invested in shows. Watch it or don't.

this.. this.. omg, how can they... omg.. these kind of people deserve to get burned.

my sister is (more or less) one of those. last week she posted a vid of the dogs playing while i could hear the Lannister army burning and screaming in the background.

also:
https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aXvjeoP_700b.jpg

[Freya]

Ha! She just read that rheagar got an annulment. Bam sam

[Freya]

Okay so I was almost right. Gendry was at eastwatch but he went with Jon.

Also called j-bear reuniting with Kelly c.

Jon and drogon bonded. And as I mentioned a moment ago, gilly mispronounced it so Sam didn't catch it but it said that rhaegar got an annulment. So bam. Miss jinx being all "he's not a true targ" guess what! Bam.


I was so excited about the gendry reveal though. I need him to reunite with arya.

[Jinx]

2 separate posts, dude?

I said before I'd humbly eat crow if I was wrong and I came here to do that, but calm down, Emeril Lagasse.

[Jinx]

I even had a funny joke saying that I was about to eat a big ol' bowl of the Night's Watch, so thanks for ruining that too. :(

[Jinx]

I am so on board with #babylannister btw.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Out of all the scenarios I expected for Jaime, peacefully washing up on the shore with all his armor on was not one of them. I'll accept it, but also give it a little side eye.

It was alright that they didn't do the previously on for Gendry. They did a good job of establishing who he is and where we left him during the course of the episode. I loved the throwback to episode one. Jon and Gendry's conversation paralleled the one where Roberts like "You've gotten fat".

Arya and Sansa both know the type of person Little Finger is, so if he successfully pulls one over on them it's gonna be a wtf moment. But hey, this is a man who's talked himself into staying alive for 7 seasons. I think Arya will end up wearing his face, though. The more I think on it, the more I think Bran gave her that dagger for a reason.

Good to see Tormund and the Brotherhood for the first time since the season premiere.

[Del Murder]

Haha, still rowing.

[Psychotic]

Out of all the scenarios I expected for Jaime, peacefully washing up on the shore with all his armor on was not one of them. I'll accept it, but also give it a little side eye.Agreed. That shot of him sinking into the deep was a cheap and unnecessary cliffhanger attempt. They could've just ended it on Bronn throwing Jaime into the water and it would've been better.
Haha, still rowing.Nice little nod there. I suspect the only reason they even brought Gendry back was because of the fan love for him. But blimey, he looked a bit... rough.
I even had a funny joke saying that I was about to eat a big ol' bowl of the Night's Watch, so thanks for ruining that too. :(:jess:

"Raggar". God bless you Gilly.

Davos stole that episode. Davos steals every episode though.

Also bloody hell, pour one out for the Tarlys. That was some godawful trout right there.

Finally, haha, Littlefinger little fingered Arya. BoB, I don't understand why you love Littlefinger so much and hate Bronn. Weirdo.

[Loony BoB]

BoB, I don't understand why you love Littlefinger so much and hate Bronn. Weirdo.
Pretty confident this is a joke but because internet and 8am I can't be certain: I love Bronn and detest Littlefinger.

Drogon love for Jon was cool.
Bronn is cool by default.
Varys be all "Yes I'll definitely tell you when you're going mad" and then he's like "hey Tyrion why don't you do it" like dude you just swore you'd tell her it's time to grow some balls and do it yourself.
Jamie is just a constant disappointment around Cersei.
Seriously Sam just listen to your missus will you that was important as heck. I wonder if he'll ever get around to actually noting that because if not then what the crap. Maybe Gilly will have a super important role to play in "oh btw that was legitimised you're no bastard" somewhere down the line.
Dickoff. :(
dat dead army tho
also lol reasoning with Cersei like that'll ever happen if she found out white walkers were real she'd just be like "how can I work this to my advantage"

[Doomie]

So, no more doubts that Jon's a Targ, I guess. I'm preparing myself a glass of cognac, a 42 ounce steak, and a bubblebath if Tyrion's one as well. I always found Davos's chapters to be quite dull in the book, but man, every episode I love him more and more.

EDIT: Also stand by my original statement in that I think Jon wants nothing to do with the throne, even if he's technically the rightful heir.

[WarZidane]

Varys be all "Yes I'll definitely tell you when you're going mad" and then he's like "hey Tyrion why don't you do it" like dude you just swore you'd tell her it's time to grow some balls and do it yourself.

Low blow, man. Low blow.

Davos continues to be the most meta guy in the show and Littlefinger gets points for trying but I still think he's absolutely screwed. Either Arya and Sansa will work it out or Arya won't even be fooled in the first place.

Loved the last scene since I'm a big sucker for characters' paths intertwining like that. Magnificent 7 memes aplenty already.

Prediction: The Hound dies next episode, only to be resurrected so Cleganebowl will be 2 men who technically died. On that note, I get the feeling Beric, Thoros and Tormund are doomed to not return from their little trip. The other 4 will most likely make it back.

[Jinx]

Denmark and I are getting pretty bad vibes about Jorah. I'm not sure about Tormund: he and Brienne still have a love story to write.

[Freya]

2 separate posts, dude?

I said before I'd humbly eat crow if I was wrong and I came here to do that, but calm down, Emeril Lagasse.

The first post was directed at you right after she said it as i watch the show live.

The second post mentioned was my thoughts after I finished the episode. I was just really ah-ha about it cause you were ranting really hard a week ago on fb about how it couldn't happen. So it was my neener-neener immature comment.

I was excited. Sorry.

[Psychotic]

So, no more doubts that Jon's a Targ, I guess. I'm preparing myself a glass of cognac, a 42 ounce steak, and a bubblebath if Tyrion's one as well. I always found Davos's chapters to be quite dull in the book, but man, every episode I love him more and more.

EDIT: Also stand by my original statement in that I think Jon wants nothing to do with the throne, even if he's technically the rightful heir.Poor Quentyn did a really good analysis of Davos's Chapters in ADWD. (http://poorquentyn.tumblr.com/tagged/davos-in-adwd/chrono) It's long and pretty involved, so definitely not for a casual read, but if you're heavily invested in the books it's worth it. I found a newfound appreciation for both book Davos and GRRM as a writer.

On the subject of Jon, it's difficult. He doesn't tend to seek power, as when Stannis offered to make him Jon Stark and he declined and when Sam set him up to be Lord Commander, but he does however assume those positions of power when he believes it is the best way to protect the things he cares about. We may well see that a third time with the Iron Throne. When the truth comes out he will definitely no longer the Stark heir and I assume will give up the KitN position to one of his cousins, so it does leave an opening for him to be employed elsewhere.

[Jinx]

2 separate posts, dude?

I said before I'd humbly eat crow if I was wrong and I came here to do that, but calm down, Emeril Lagasse.

The first post was directed at you right after she said it as i watch the show live.

The second post mentioned was my thoughts after I finished the episode. I was just really ah-ha about it cause you were ranting really hard a week ago on fb about how it couldn't happen. So it was my neener-neener immature comment.

I was excited. Sorry.

Bend the knee and we can make up.

tbh, like I said sometime last week, I'm thrilled to see how smurfing salt(and smoke)y Danaerys is going to be when it all comes to light. Hoo boy. She will be the Hillary Clinton of Westeros--spent all her life working towards a single goal, thinks it's her right, and then smurfin nope in the final hour.

[Freya]

They were giving some intense goo-goo eyes. I think they'll bang and then maybe marry and then it wont really matter as then they'll both be king and queen?


But then also... If they even get to that. The night king may just wreck everything and everyone.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

I'm not sure about Tormund: he and Brienne still have a love story to write.

My big concern with losing Tormund, other than him being awesome, is that he's our only connection left to the wildlings. If we lose him, then we just have a faceless wildling army left. Unless they all die, too.

[Freya]

Stw6INIS570

They really turned up the hype on that trailer haha. Big bold lettering and everything.

WINTER

*baum baum*

IS

*baum baum*

HERE

*baum baum*



You know, we only have two episodes left. So these last too should be amazing!

[Jinx]

That's probably where the show will head. Fwiw, Dany has become exponentially more likeable with Jon guiding her. He got that good good so she actually listens to him. But him saying "our people" was very foreshadowy on a show that isn't subtle (not matter its other merits).

I really hope Cersei is actually coming to her senses. I want those two crazy kids to head off into the sunset of Casterly Rock and get to married and have little Jaime junior.

[Jinx]

I'm not sure about Tormund: he and Brienne still have a love story to write.

My big concern with losing Tormund, other than him being awesome, is that he's our only connection left to the wildlings. If we lose him, then we just have a faceless wildling army left. Unless they all die, too.

This is an excellent point (on both regards). We haven't seen wildlings for awhile, so I don't think it'd be too shocking if the get decimated at Eastwatch. But if Tormund dies, I'm rioting.

[Freya]

https://i.redd.it/3basynv4tmfz.jpg

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

So is there any chance for an as yet announced "big bad" by the end of the series? Or should we just expect the Cersei, Euron, and white walker storylines to play their course?

Other than the teases of a potential mad queen Dany, I think we've pretty much seen all the people we're going to see on this show. I think we've got 8 episodes left all together and we're just settling in now.

[Psychotic]

So is there any chance for an as yet announced "big bad" by the end of the series? Or should we just expect the Cersei, Euron, and white walker storylines to play their course?

Other than the teases of a potential mad queen Dany, I think we've pretty much seen all the people we're going to see on this show. I think we've got 8 episodes left all together and we're just settling in now.I hope there's more to the White Walkers than just being grumpy ice men with their crusty ice zombies, like maybe there's some terrifying abomination nightmare fuel demon behind them all, but you're probably right that it's a little late in the day to be introducing new antagonists now.

[Jinx]

Kendall Jenner should just give them a can of bepis

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

I love that last scene of the crew of 7 walking into the unknown. It's very Fellowship of the Ring-esque.

A lot of people feel like either Jon or Dany will die by the end of the show. Like many people, I hope it's Dany.

But man. A part of me feels like Jon being resurrected wasn't simply a gift that he can just accept. He was brought back with a purpose, and I think when he fulfills that purpose there's a chance he'll just collapse and die again. Kind of like The Crow (pun intended), he's living on borrowed time. There's gotta be a cost to being brought back from the dead, I suspect.

[Psychotic]

I went on a bit of a deletion spree as I think we (and I do mean we, I am very guilty here!) are being a bit unfair to others.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Everything else I've been "predicting" has been me theory crafting.

I don't believe you :zombert:

I'm kidding don't kill me the lord of light is on my side

[Freya]

Yeah next time I'll... uhhh... not mark any spoilers as I did this time?

[Psychotic]

Yeah next time I'll... uhhh... not mark any spoilers as I did this time?I don't think you were wrong in marking them, but I also think it might be confusing if we're talking in spoilers on the same day an episode is released in some countries, as some people might think they refer to episode 5. I just want to be fair to people who hate even trailers. We can discuss it after the episode next week!

I raised the subject initially so it's my bad and not yours!

[Shaibana]

alright, so thats another theory untangled:
Rhaeger (tried to) divorced Elia Martell to mary Lyanna Stark. also: screw you, Sam, for interrupting Gilly D:

also: whats with the letter Arya found? i know Cersei dictated it to Sansa in season 1 or 2 but for what purpose?
what game is he playing?

also: welcome back. Gendry :')

also:
Dany: ''Bend the knee..'
*a bit of muttering, a couple bending the knee*
Drogon: ''BEND THE KNEE MOTHERsmurfERS''
*loud noise of knee's snapping*

also: https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/anj4K8q_700b_v1.jpg

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

whats with the letter Arya found? i know Cersei dictated it to Sansa in season 1 or 2 but for what purpose?
what game is he playing?

I think he's trying to make Arya mad at Sansa so he can divide the house. I think when Arya reads it she's unaware that Cersei made Sansa write it so she's just supposed to think of Sansa in a bad light.

I didn't pause to read the note, so this is just speculation based on what people have said.

[Freya]

Because I have to repost wrongly deleted theory crafting because psy is overzealous with deleting things that are important



LIKE RIGHT NOW, so With the Tarly's all dead and if that wall comes down/night king gets murdered then sam is released from his vows and he gets to take his place as Sam Tarly of Horn Hill! Except why stop at Horn Hill, Highgarden is up for grabs. Sam will be the Warden of the South :D

Sam for Warden of the South :colbert:

[Jinx]

Did my post about Kendall Jenner giving everyone in Westeros including the Night King a bepis get deleted

because that was gold

[Psychotic]

Did my post about Kendall Jenner giving everyone in Westeros including the Night King a bepis get deleted

because that was goldnop :)

[Freya]

Did my post about Kendall Jenner giving everyone in Westeros including the Night King a bepis get deleted

because that was gold

I made you a picture

73643

[Shaibana]

it really feels like the last season(s)..
everything seems to get wrapped up slowly..
what will life be after GoT?... what will we watch and discus then?

i'm already feeling sad...


(i forgot that Arya doesnt know about that letter)

[The Captain]

I definitely think we're going to see some real major deaths from here on out. They've offed just about every character they can without losing any real fan favorites yet. GoT can't be that sentimental, right?

I do wonder who is going to return with Jon from this (really dumb) journey north. My heart says it may only be Jon and maybe The Hound but who knows?

Also, I too think that this ending might be leading to Jon unhappily taking the throne, since he seems so reluctant to do just that. Maybe he'd be titled, King Jon The Brooding in the Westeros history books?

Or King Jon The Ikea Clad? (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/game-of-thrones-season-7-costume-designer-michelle-clapton-ikea-rugs-nights-watch-capes-a7881981.html).


I'm going to stick by my theory that I think somehow Cersei ends up as the actual final villain, even after The Night King and Dany's possible heel turn. Somehow, it would feel more bittersweet if after all the fighting, she still tries to screw the survivors over for her own gain.

Take care all.

[Del Murder]

Jamie 'sinking' about 10 feet away from Daenerys, Drogon, and her Dothraki army only to resurface with no one around is one of the most ludicrous plot devices they've used. Why would she not send everyone to blanket the area looking for the leader of the enemy's army who also happens to be the brother/lover of her greatest enemy? I can only assume that she did not know who that was though Tyrion obviously knew.

Awesome that this episode featured a ton of Davos. 'Why listen to me? I've only lived to a ripe old age.' He's so great.

This is quite a motley crew heading north. I suspect at least half of these guys are going to eat it.

[The Captain]

Jamie 'sinking' about 10 feet away from Daenerys, Drogon, and her Dothraki army only to resurface with no one around is one of the most ludicrous plot devices they've used. Why would she not send everyone to blanket the area looking for the leader of the enemy's army who also happens to be the brother/lover of her greatest enemy? I can only assume that she did not know who that was though Tyrion obviously knew.

Awesome that this episode featured a ton of Davos. 'Why listen to me? I've only lived to a ripe old age.' He's so great.

This is quite a motley crew heading north. I suspect at least half of these guys are going to eat it.


I thought that same thing! Somehow, both he and Bronn surfaced on the other side of the river bank and no one thought to look for them? Don't get me wrong, I love both of those characters and am glad we get to see them continue but that felt a very convenient cheat, especially for a show that used to just be brutally efficient with death. You'd think Dany would want to really kill or roast someone who directly attacked her.

Davos continues to be the real MVP of this show. My only fear is that any character who keeps saying how old he is... usually isn't long for this world. Though, what's interesting to note is, might Davos be one of the older characters the show has left at this point? Most of his generation have been killed off. Other than the old fools in Oldtown, is Davos all that's left of the older guard? It's basically all the children of the old guard now fighting. How old, say, is Jorah compared to Davos?

Another probably obvious prediction, but I think The Hound will somehow have to use fire in some way, either to save his own life or another's before his story can end. That and you know, CLEGANEBOWL.

Also this:

https://twitter.com/WightsKing/status/896914382139015168/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fgothamist.com%2F2017%2F08%2F14%2Fgame_of_thrones_power_rankings_eastwatch.php

Take care all.

[Del Murder]

A white walker kills Beric, and Sandor picks up the fire sword to save the day?

[Bri]

it really feels like the last season(s)..
everything seems to get wrapped up slowly..
what will life be after GoT?... what will we watch and discus then?

i'm already feeling sad...


(i forgot that Arya doesnt know about that letter)

I read a post that next season will be out in 2 years

[Freya]

There's a chance it may not come out until 2019! The sound/music director lady had said she had heard murrmurrs that they will be each 90 mins. So 6 feature length movies basically? Heck yes. I'm okay with that.

Also there's rumored Season 8 leaks going around from the HBO hack. But they're literally just someone writing fanfiction so if you see anything, those leaks really are fake. Only a few scripts are done so there isn't really much TO leak.

[The Captain]

A white walker kills Beric, and Sandor picks up the fire sword to save the day?

That could be possible or... what if Sandor gets struck down but is brought back by fire magic by Thoros? Or Beric gives him one last life at the cost of his own? Would he indeed be a true believer of the lord of light now? I personally think Thoros is the one who will definitely die first, since that essentially seals the fate of Beric. Also, do you think he and Jon will bond about being re-born?

Tormund I hope survives, if for no other reason that I thoroughly enjoy how straightforward and obtuse he is. He's essentially the Drax of the show.

If I were betting odds on who survives the Wight Heist I'd put it at:

Jon: No Odds (he can't die... yet, right?)
The Hound: 3-1, I think he still has a lot to do.
Tormund: 10-1, He seems like the sort who survives.
Gendry: 30-1 Good afternoon, good evening and good night?
Jorah: 50-1, His goodbye to Dany felt sort of final.
Thoros, 100-1, He got his ale, now he'll meet his fate.
Beric, 1000-1, There's no way there will be TWO resurrected heroes still running around by the end here.

Did the rest of the Brotherhood not make it to Eastwatch? Or are they staying behind with Davos? Same with the Wildings?

Take care all.

[Jinx]

I think Gendry chances are much higher. Seems dumb to bring him back for one episode after so many seasons. Also Jon has no buddies his own age, he needs a buddy.

[The Captain]

I think Gendry chances are much higher. Seems dumb to bring him back for one episode after so many seasons. Also Jon has no buddies his own age, he needs a buddy.

That's a good point. Plus, he needs to see Arya, doesn't he? Ultimately, I could see it playing out in the same way as the Magnificent Seven movie did, which OLD OLD film spoilers.... 7 went out, 3 came back.

Take care all.

[Loony BoB]

I'm more curious as to whether they even get back before the season is over. Are they just going to casually nip out, grab a local walker and just drag it back? Are they that readily available or have they all headed to Eastwatch already? Even if they do catch one, how easily can they drag it back? How easily can they get it to Cersei? Will they stop by Dany first? Hmm. Seems a lot to do in a couple of 40 minute episodes, especially with all the other stuff that is going on.

[The Captain]

Mild SPOILERS for ya BoB:

Final two episodes of this season will be much longer, Episode 6 is 71 minutes and Episode 7 is 81.

Plenty of time to travel, especially since everyone can warp around Westeros now.

Take care all.

[Del Murder]

The fact that Daenerys went from a battle outside King's Landing to Dragonstone with Jon, then Jon went from Dragonstone to Eastwatch all in one episode indicates that they don't give a smurf about travel times. I think Jon and what remains of his suicide squad will be back in main Westeros by the finale. My guess is the finale is the meetup with Cersei, Dany, and Jon to forge some Last Alliance against the walkers.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

What was the point of Bran warging in and out of multiple ravens? Unless it was to show us that Bran is proficient at weaving in and out of beings like nobody's business, I have no idea.

It's a cool effect, but with all those birds flying right next to eachother, changing eyesight from one bird to the next for the sake of expanded vision would be kind of redundant.

edit: Especially if you can see everything like a supercomputer anyway.

[Loony BoB]

Ah! Good to know, Cap'n. Yeah, that definitely gives them enough time. And don't worry, I'm not so sensitive that the airing time impacts me. :D Ahhh I can't wait! And I think the Shaunas will be over on the final weekend. I hope they have been keeping up too...

[Doomie]

I'm thinking Jon and Jorah will be the only ones who survive. And Davos, if he went (I can't remember atm). Which makes me sad because I love Tormund. I remember this one line in the book where he's telling Jon the story of how a giantess bit off half his cock, but that still made it twice as big as any other man's. He was the first clue that the wildlings weren't evil.

I think many of my theories, as well as many others', seem to revolve around there being a happy ending, whether it's Dany, Jon, or Tyrion sitting on the Iron Throne when it's all said an done. Except GRRM doesn't seem the type to give a fuck what his fans/readers want. I wouldn't be surprised if one of those three takes the throne, but the story ends with a Michael Corleone-esque ending (Godfather 1, not 3). There have been very few good kings/queens, it seems.

What does everything think of the new theory circulating that this ASoIaF is Sam telling the story of Westeros?

[Bubba]

I always come to this thread with things to say. However, because I live in the stupid UK I'm always late in here. Everything I want to say has been said (and generally better) and you've all given me a thousand other things to think about.

I love you guys.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

What does everything think of the new theory circulating that this ASoIaF is Sam telling the story of Westeros?

Even though I made a Fellowship reference earlier, I think this theory is way too Lord of the Rings-ish. GRRM and most fantasy writers are inspired by Tolkien, but I don't think he ever set out to take things from him whole cloth. Best friend of the main character named Sam writing meta commentary on the world they live in is a little too on the nose.

My favorite Sam theory is people feeling like he's a mary sue stand in for GRRM. The heavyset book reader still gets an attractive girlfriend and a cool sword is an author living his best life.

[Jinx]

Hey, let's do something fun! We all know our gang of 7 is going to have multiple deaths, though we're not sure who and how many. For the sake of a game, let's all list 4 characters we think will die (I figured 3 would be too easy, let's do a majority).

In order of likelihood:
1. Beric. He's fairly irrelevant. I think like the books with Lady Stoneheart, he'll be passing on his life to someone else.
2. Thoros. Also expendable. Might aid Beric in bringing someone back first, though.
3. Jorah. Like others have said, his goodbye with Dany seemed final. It'd be heartbreaking for him to be cured of greyscale only to die shortly after, but it'd be poetic to have him dying for the same cause his father did. Also, a much better death to try and save the world and the woman you love than die of illness and slowly losing your mind.
4. I'm going with the common theory that Sandor is going to die, and Beric's life will be transferred to him. Then we'll have undead Cleganebowl.

Wild Card: Tormund, because we haven't seen the wildlings in forever and this show loves to kill off fan favorites.

[The Captain]

Hey, let's do something fun! We all know our gang of 7 is going to have multiple deaths, though we're not sure who and how many. For the sake of a game, let's all list 4 characters we think will die (I figured 3 would be too easy, let's do a majority).

In order of likelihood:
1. Beric. He's fairly irrelevant. I think like the books with Lady Stoneheart, he'll be passing on his life to someone else.
2. Thoros. Also expendable. Might aid Beric in bringing someone back first, though.
3. Jorah. Like others have said, his goodbye with Dany seemed final. It'd be heartbreaking for him to be cured of greyscale only to die shortly after, but it'd be poetic to have him dying for the same cause his father did. Also, a much better death to try and save the world and the woman you love than die of illness and slowly losing your mind.
4. I'm going with the common theory that Sandor is going to die, and Beric's life will be transferred to him. Then we'll have undead Cleganebowl.

Wild Card: Tormund, because we haven't seen the wildlings in forever and this show loves to kill off fan favorites.

Are we talking just the Suicide Snow Squad or predicting any 4 deaths moving forward? I have to admit, I'm legit worried about Bronn since Cersei mentioned she knew about him setting up the meeting between the brothers.

4 in the Squad to die: Beric, Thoros, Jorah and Gendry. 4 others to die: Littlefinger (duh), Qyburn, The Undead Mountain and.... a dragon.

Take care all.

[Jinx]

I for sure meant the Snow Squad, but any death predictions are good, I guess!

[theundeadhero]

I would like nothing more than to see The Hound killed, then reborn through the brotherhood by the Red God as AA. The man who was afraid of fire becomes the wielder of the flaming sword. No one else fully matches all the prophesies either, so why not :shrug: I've suspected it for a while.

[Loony BoB]

I wonder if the walker they bring back will end up being one of their own group.

EDIT: Also, the episode was called Eastwatch right? Did we actually see Eastwatch at all in that episode?

[WarZidane]

We didn't see much of it but I'm pretty sure at least one of the overhead shots was of Eastwatch, and the final scenes are in Eastwatch (the meeting in the jail cells, going through the gate).

as for who I think will die beyond the wall, already mentioned it but:
1. Beric
2. Thoros
These two are 99% doomed, they'll serve their story purpose in resurrecting someone (presumably Sandor)
3. Tormund
4. The Hound who will be resurrected and return anyway

I think Jorah has a higher likelihood of surviving than Tormund just because he got cured of a fatal disease 2 episodes ago, why do that and then kill him off before he does anything relevant 2 episodes later? Unless he does something big beyond the wall, but I can't imagine what.
Similar scenario with Gendry, why bring him back and then kill him an episode later?
And Jon, well, it's obvious he's coming back :p

[Jinx]

I would like nothing more than to see The Hound killed, then reborn through the brotherhood by the Red God as AA. The man who was afraid of fire becomes the wielder of the flaming sword. No one else fully matches all the prophesies either, so why not :shrug: I've suspected it for a while.

Eh, I don't think he has enough going for him to be AA. That's Jaime's job.

[Psychotic]

Azor Ahai was Rhaegar Targaryen and he's dead, deal w/ it

[Jinx]

Honestly, the stuff with Elia might indicate so. There's nothing we know so far that indicates he didn't love her. A lot of people theorize that she allowed him to quietly end their marriage out of love for him and being unable to give him the final child of his prophecy.

Stabbing the woman you love in the heart to fulfill a greater destiny? Elia for sure could be Nissa Nissa in this situation.

[Psychotic]

Although I doubt it'll be Rhaegar for the TV show but will in the books. GRRM has kept Summerhall (smoke and salt) very close to his chest and I doubt he'd let that story be told on the show. So it'll probably be Jon by default.

[Slothy]

EDIT: Also, the episode was called Eastwatch right? Did we actually see Eastwatch at all in that episode?

You realize that's where they met Tormund and crossed to north of the wall right?

[Loony BoB]

I did not! Still, title didn't exactly carry much relevance imho.

I dunno. If Rhaegar is Azor Ahai in the books, then what's the point if he's already dead? Think they brought him back? Seems kind of a cop-out to me to suddenly bring back someone who hasn't actively been in the story and make him the One Who Saves All People suddenly. It'd be very Deus Ex Machina for the sake of not making it Jon to avoid things being predictable.

[Psychotic]

I dunno. If Rhaegar is Azor Ahai in the books, then what's the point if he's already dead?That is exactly the point. I mean come on, it's George RR Martin - everybody's dead! He loves to try to subvert fantasy tropes (eg Robb not avenging his father) and the super special hero of prophecy being killed before his time is certainly another example of that. No-one's the hero, stop relying on ancient prophecies and take responsibility for yourselves.

I think GRRM has even commented that it's hard to write a story where the main hero's been dead for 15 years. I don't think he's actually being brought back, by the way.