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Hollycat
03-11-2011, 08:43 PM
I was watching tv and this commercial came on where thes middle school kids started calling everything gay. then an actress who was in a bunch of lame movies stood up and said she was gay and that was offensive. then the kids shut up. discuss.

Levian
03-11-2011, 08:58 PM
You're a gay commercial.

Old Manus
03-11-2011, 09:06 PM
You're a gay commercial.

Vyk
03-11-2011, 09:27 PM
Pretty sure this was just discussed in EoEO :P While I get that society is being disrespectful to the gay community by saying that kind of stuff. Its rarely a case of them being obnoxiously malicious about it. Its just a slang term that society has adopted it. Nobody is <i>trying</i> to be mean about it. I honestly don't think there's anything to get upset about. They're not calling gay people dumb. Though I admit I can see a correlation, considering they're calling dumb things gay. But really, its only a minority of people who actually have a problem with it, and its not always the gay and lesbian community who get up in arms about it. Some people just look for things to be an activist about and some of them latch onto that. So while I respect people's preference against the word's general usage, I really can't respect someone's extremist agenda against it. Its not a word I even try to make a habit of saying, it's just simply become habit. If someone politely tells me it bothers them I'd probably remember to never use it around them. No big deal. No need to make a big deal. That just gets people all defensive anyway, and could exacerbate the situation instead

Unbreakable Will
03-11-2011, 09:37 PM
It's not a big deal (at least in TN it's not) and it seems to me that they're trying to make it that way. And Wanda Sykes is an idiot. :monster:

Psychotic
03-11-2011, 09:41 PM
wrong again, liberal media!

Peegee
03-11-2011, 09:48 PM
You're a gay commercial.

btw what is the topic? can you link the commercial

why is being gay important to americans (i'm stereotyping you as american bc i can)? it's not important to me so I cannot empathize

DMKA
03-11-2011, 09:57 PM
It's not a big deal (at least in TN it's not) and it seems to me that they're trying to make it that way. And Wanda Sykes is an idiot. :monster:

I kinda like Wanda Sykes, but sadly I have to agree, she is an idiot.

I saw a commercial a few years ago with Hilary Duff where there were two girls who were in a clothing store and they picked up some jeans or something they didn't like and they were like "These jeans are soooooooo gay" and then Hilary was like "Why do you have to say that? Well what if I say those jeans are soooooo girl wearing a skirt as a shirt" in reference to the shirt the girl who said gay was wearing. Then I saw another just a few days ago with two girls in a grocery store and one of them picked up a can of peas or something and was like "$2.99 for this? That's so gay" and the other one was like "Yeah that's totally gay" and then some other girl was like "Oh my god yeah, high prices are sooo Nancy and Stacy...yeah did you hear? When something sucks or isn't very good then you call it Nancy and Stacy. Everyone's doing it!" or something to that ridiculous effect.

I assume it's part of the same line of commercials. I hate them.

Unbreakable Will
03-11-2011, 10:07 PM
Yup, saaame thing as these. It's just going to get on people's nerves and make them say it more just to spite this ridiculous campaign. You shouldn't bring attention to it if you want it to stop imo.

Peegee
03-11-2011, 10:32 PM
It's not a big deal (at least in TN it's not) and it seems to me that they're trying to make it that way. And Wanda Sykes is an idiot. :monster:

I kinda like Wanda Sykes, but sadly I have to agree, she is an idiot.

I saw a commercial a few years ago with Hilary Duff where there were two girls who were in a clothing store and they picked up some jeans or something they didn't like and they were like "These jeans are soooooooo gay" and then Hilary was like "Why do you have to say that? Well what if I say those jeans are soooooo girl wearing a skirt as a shirt" in reference to the shirt the girl who said gay was wearing. Then I saw another just a few days ago with two girls in a grocery store and one of them picked up a can of peas or something and was like "$2.99 for this? That's so gay" and the other one was like "Yeah that's totally gay" and then some other girl was like "Oh my god yeah, high prices are sooo Nancy and Stacy...yeah did you hear? When something sucks or isn't very good then you call it Nancy and Stacy. Everyone's doing it!" or something to that ridiculous effect.

I assume it's part of the same line of commercials. I hate them.

You wouldn't say 'that's so mentally challenge jock who only knows how to play sports'

or something like that. amirite?

Of course not. I would call jocks boneheads. And girls airheads, or 'blonde'

wait I'm missing the point.

Hollycat
03-11-2011, 10:37 PM
gotta find your own link, i saw it on adult swim

Vyk
03-11-2011, 11:17 PM
Oh I remember when blondes used to get so up in arms about the whole idea of being a blonde. And now its become culturally accepted and people frequently say things like "Sorry, I was having a blonde moment". Nobody rational thinks all blondes are idiots. And just because you have blonde hair doesn't make you "a blonde". And if you're a freaking moron and you have boobs, you're being a blonde, even if you're brunette. Its dumb, but its been accepted to be this way

escobert
03-12-2011, 12:55 AM
This thread gay

Hollycat
03-12-2011, 01:02 AM
And you are Bert. Whats the problem?

Laddy
03-12-2011, 01:24 AM
You're all so gay.

Unbreakable Will
03-12-2011, 01:41 AM
You're all so gay.
:bigsmile:

G13
03-12-2011, 01:45 AM
Wanda Sykes was the worst person they could have chosen to get this point across. I think Hilary Duff did one too.

"Don't do that guysss! It's meannn!"

Hollycat
03-12-2011, 02:12 AM
wanda dykes is neither funny nor respectable

Peegee
03-12-2011, 02:20 AM
It's raining men. Hallelujah, it's raining men

rubah
03-12-2011, 02:58 AM
I think all of you who use gay as a pejorative are nerds.

And saying that the only way to make it go away is to ignore it? That's smurfing geeky. It works so well with bullying, the national debt, civil rights~

if any of you nerds ever studied writing and composition, you'd know that words have connotations. Slang or not, whether you are mentally invoking connotations, they happen.


These commercials probably aren't the best way, but if any of you guys aren't asshats, you'll start using the word gay to mean something good, as a self-descriptor, the way that nerds and geeks started to reclaim those derogatory words. If it goes ignored, then the connotation permanently enters the vocabulary, like lame, moron, negro, colored. The group in question has no choice but to change vocabulary: disabled, mentally handicapped, persons of color.

Seriously, you all think you're clever and funny, but you're just being jackasses. Help some folks out, and have a gay time doing so!

Basically, hang together, or we'll all hang separately. And if you don't want to hang together, I don't want to hang out with you :colbert:

Hollycat
03-12-2011, 03:00 AM
im gay, but I only like girls

Christmas
03-12-2011, 03:21 AM
Gays and normal men both like holes, it is just that they have their own personal preferences of the position and the smell of the hole. :bigsmile:

Hollycat
03-12-2011, 03:22 AM
the gay retarded kid on my bus scares me, he tries to make us look at gay animal porn

Vyk
03-12-2011, 03:29 AM
Haha very true rubah. But there was also kind of a nerdiness renaissance recently. People didn't just start using the term differently. Nerds started coming out of the closet and getting noticed. Cool people stopped worrying about being popular and embraced their inner nerd and brought their coolness along for the ride. So you end up with great mixtures like nerd core rap, or comedic video game reviews. I guarantee if nerd still greased their hair back, wore their pants up to their nipples, and used pocket protectors, the term would remain negative. In essence, nerds kinda changed themselves, so they were cool. And so nerdiness itself became cool. Or something to that effect. Which means gays need to stop being so lazy and start taking up the lime light again. People loved Queer Eye and stuff xD Though that was kinda pandering..

NorthernChaosGod
03-12-2011, 03:45 AM
It's not a big deal (at least in TN it's not) and it seems to me that they're trying to make it that way. And Wanda Sykes is an idiot. :monster:

I kinda like Wanda Sykes, but sadly I have to agree, she is an idiot.

I saw a commercial a few years ago with Hilary Duff where there were two girls who were in a clothing store and they picked up some jeans or something they didn't like and they were like "These jeans are soooooooo gay" and then Hilary was like "Why do you have to say that? Well what if I say those jeans are soooooo girl wearing a skirt as a shirt" in reference to the shirt the girl who said gay was wearing. Then I saw another just a few days ago with two girls in a grocery store and one of them picked up a can of peas or something and was like "$2.99 for this? That's so gay" and the other one was like "Yeah that's totally gay" and then some other girl was like "Oh my god yeah, high prices are sooo Nancy and Stacy...yeah did you hear? When something sucks or isn't very good then you call it Nancy and Stacy. Everyone's doing it!" or something to that ridiculous effect.

I assume it's part of the same line of commercials. I hate them.
That's fucking gaaaaay.

spirit
03-12-2011, 04:09 AM
There's a gay guy in my graphic design class. I would be his friend, he's a cool guy. I think using the term gay to describe something bad, wrong, is only cool if it's understood that it's a form of expression that's meant to be juvenile and a bit dark bited, sadistic. If it's meant to poke off at something in a playful way, but not a offensive way. I think it's about character, who says it, how well you know that person.

If it's just flat out meant to be insulting then it's meant to be that way.

I think it's the people saying it and how they say it, that makes it at least tolerable or not. If you're comfortable with the person and you know they have a darker, almost juvenile sense of humor then it might not bother you as a gay person.

But if they aren't a costumed to this and don't love you and know you as that sort of person saying something is gay as a bad thing might come off as a out of character experience, which they might find insulting.


Which in turn the remark might come off insulting because they expect something else, or something "better" from you than that. And they realize that you generally take things a bit more seriously, and that such remarks, as calling something gay that isn't, are ignorant when you take them seriously.

I think people are entitled to be offended that people make a joke out of this or use it in a negative way for sure. But in some instances, something to possibly add here,I think people who watch adult cartoons, or enjoy gritty volgur comedies , might understand that there are many types of senses of humors.


Perhaps not the best example , but a example of some sort, is fat people who use the expression PHAT. It sounds the same, and yet it's funny, well to some people. They mean different things, even though they sound the same FAT and PHAT and there's a obvious connection there that's hard to miss that connects the two as a joke. Which has a bit of a dark bite to it but it still exists.


Or, how about when best friends call each other jack asses, or ass holes, and they're joking together.

Or black people who use the n word together frequently?

I think what's really at stake here is that gay is a life style. People would find it offensive because of that. It's because nothing is really funny about being out casted, discriminated against. But in some applications I don't think the misuse of the word ultimately outcasts or discriminates against the gay individual.

Laddy
03-12-2011, 05:05 AM
I do take annoyance when gay is used as a term to describe something as bad.

These commercials are silly and some people take it too far. However, in a society when words like fag and queer and constantly used as an insult purely because of the connotations with it, then describing something as gay is essentially the same, just a less extreme version.


EDIT: I'd feel different about it if the whole issue wasn't so widespread, but it is and in a scoiety in which many LGBT are treated as outcasts and deviants purely because of the labels associated with them, it being used as an umbrella term for anything negative is kinda a slap in the face.

Remon
03-12-2011, 05:09 PM
I only describe girly things as gay :D