P4 - Mafia XIX Game Thread - [Game Over] Mafia DOMINATION

[[M] Anise]

Hanako is a voteless townie. That's all there is to it.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Kou;2973019']Hanako is a voteless townie. That's all there is to it.

those exist?

[[M] Anise]

YES

[[M] Mom – Host]

[M] Mitsuo (3) - [M] Namatame, [M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi, [M] Hanako
[M] Yukiko (3) - [M] Nanako, [M] Rise, [M] Kou
[M] Hanako (2) - [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Daisuke
[M] Kanji (1) - [M] Mitsuo
[M] Daidara (0) -

Five hours, laides and gentlemen.

[[M] Aaron]

Makes sense. Glad we didn't lynch her then!

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

Igor;2973033'][M] Mitsuo (3) - [M] Namatame, [M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi, [M] Hanako
[M] Yukiko (3) - [M] Nanako, [M] Rise, [M] Kou
[M] Hanako (2) - [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Daisuke
[M] Kanji (1) - [M] Mitsuo
[M] Daidara (0) -

Five hours, laides and gentlemen.

Are you keeping it 3 on purpose xD

[[M] Aaron]

He said yeah, he did, and we've speculated that since it was three before Hanako voted and three after Hanako voted, that she must be a voteless townie!

[[M] Anise]

Actually I did some research. Apparently the ability to not vote is not only limited to the townies.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Yukiko;2973034']Makes sense. Glad we didn't lynch her then!

most likely

[[M] Caprica]

I will be unable to be here for the end of the day, so I'm putting my vote back on Mitsuo. No chance of a speed lynch at this point, considering there is only 4 hours left, Hanako is voteless, a d Tanaka is MIA.

##Vote: Mitsuo

[[M] Colette]

Kou;2973042']Actually I did some research. Apparently the ability to not vote is not only limited to the townies.

So what you are saying is being unable to vote does not necessarily mean she is not Mafia?

[[M] Eizen]

It seems that Mitsuo has been slipping past the lynch each round, is it luck/coincidence or is there more to it?

##VOTE: [M] Mitsuo

I guess we'll find out soon enough.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Rise;2973050']
Kou;2973042']Actually I did some research. Apparently the ability to not vote is not only limited to the townies.

So what you are saying is being unable to vote does not necessarily mean she is not Mafia?

It wouldnt make sense for her to not have a role if she can't make a counting vote, because then it wouldn't be fair for Igor to give us votecount.... I don't know if she's mafia or not, if I don't get lynched tonight I will investigate very carefully. And before any one gets pissy at me, I am not roleclaiming cop, I am saying I will weigh the probabilities very carefully. By the way Kanji, I know you won't get lynched, but I am keeping my vote on you because I highly doubt there was legitimate reason to turn on me.

[[M] Anise]

I meant the contrary. That means that she can be anything.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Tanaka;2973054']It seems that Mitsuo has been slipping past the lynch each round, is it luck/coincidence or is there more to it?

##VOTE: [M] Mitsuo

I guess we'll find out soon enough.

It's that I'm innocent, don't just charge in and bandwagon on me without discussing it, I had completely forgotten you existed! You are very suspicious. But I said I was keeping my vote on Kanji, and so for now at least I will.

[[M] Eizen]

Actually, I could vote whatever way I feel without justification. I mean, yes, it looks bad on me but I can bandwagon or vote however I want without discussing it.

Just because you say you're innocent doesn't make it true. :/ Then again, same goes for everyone else.

Which reminds me, I need to dig through the voting records...

[[M] Mom – Host]

[M] Mitsuo (5) - [M] Namatame, [M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi, [M] Hanako, [M] Tanaka, [M] Kanji
[M] Yukiko (3) - [M] Nanako, [M] Rise, [M] Kou
[M] Hanako (2) - [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Daisuke
[M] Kanji (1) - [M] Mitsuo
[M] Daidara (0) -

Just under four hours, guys and gals.

[[M] Colette]

I would plead with the town, please vote Yukiko. Kanji and Mitsuo, could you not put your differences aside for this vote and help me lynch Yukiko for the good of the group?

[[M] Eizen]

No offense doll face, but 2 out of the 3 lynches that happened, the people you voted for were lynched and were not Mafia. You have a bad track history. :/

[[M] Eizen]

Sidenote: I have 3/4 of my needed data gathered. Just need to finish it then compile it but I must be off to work first!

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Rise;2973074']I would plead with the town, please vote Yukiko. Kanji and Mitsuo, could you not put your differences aside for this vote and help me lynch Yukiko for the good of the group?

..... say please and maybe. I'm still not convinced she's mafia, try and convince me

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

I just realised, the other day, you guys said that one guy was killed probably because he was on the right track. He said I was innocent. And thoughts, or have you guys decided he was a crackpot?

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

Dammit... Mitsuo is so going to be hung... I hope you guys are right.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Nanako;2973087']Dammit... Mitsuo is so going to be hung... I hope you guys are right.

Nope! Bye bye I guess
You guys will regret losing me afterward. You could say that I am on the watch for important mafia and cultists at night. Not allowed to tell you more than that

[[M] Colette]

Mitsuo;2973085']I just realised, the other day, you guys said that one guy was killed probably because he was on the right track. He said I was innocent. And thoughts, or have you guys decided he was a crackpot?

Yes, Morooka thought you were innocent. Mitsuo, your stubborness is going to get you lynched, why not save yourself and oin me in a vote for Yukiko! Boy, will your tie ever be straight?

[[M] Anise]

Mitsuo;2973090']
You guys will regret losing me afterward. You could say that I am on the watch for important mafia and cultists at night. Not allowed to tell you more than that

O_O

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Rise;2973091']
Mitsuo;2973085']I just realised, the other day, you guys said that one guy was killed probably because he was on the right track. He said I was innocent. And thoughts, or have you guys decided he was a crackpot?

Yes, Morooka thought you were innocent. Mitsuo, your stubborness is going to get you lynched, why not save yourself and oin me in a vote for Yukiko! Boy, will your tie ever be straight?

I'm not yet convinced shes mafia! Besides, with one more vote she still would be lynched

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

wouldnt

[[M] Colette]

It would put her in a tie with you and give us more time to convince others to join us. Besides, how can you insinuate you are vital to the towns survival and then willingly allow the bus to run you over? Your vote on Kanji means nothing, he will not be lynched since nobody else has joined you in voting for him.

[[M] Colette]

Nanako;2973087']Dammit... Mitsuo is so going to be hung... I hope you guys are right.

Nanako, convince the stubborn fool to join us, I can't seem to talk sense into him!

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Grr... fine. But I swear if Yukiko flips town, you are next Rise.
##unvote: kanji
##vote: yukiko

[[M] Colette]

I've already promised I'd give myself up for the lynich if I am wrong, Mitsuo.

[[M] Anise]

Two hours left.
*yawn*
Where did yesterday's excitement go guys?

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Kou;2973118']Two hours left.
*yawn*
Where did yesterday's excitement go guys?

Mexico

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Also, I want to correct and assumptions made earlier, my role is not definitively vital to the town, but lets just say the mafia would very much like to get rid of me in case they make a mistake

[[M] Anise]

You're either speaking the truth or getting us all mindsmurfed.

[[M] Colette]

Don't let him confuse you Kou, suffice to say that his tie is preventing some oxygen to his brain. Now if only Daidara would vote for Yukiko, we would have a majority, but I suppose I shouldn't hold my breath. Or maybe Kashiwagi or Daisuke will post again and be convinced not to vote for Hanako

[[M] Mom – Host]

[M] Mitsuo (5) - [M] Namatame, [M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi, [M] Hanako, [M] Tanaka, [M] Kanji
[M] Yukiko (4) - [M] Nanako, [M] Rise, [M] Kou, [M] Mitsuo
[M] Hanako (2) - [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Daisuke
[M] Kanji (0) -
[M] Daidara (0) -
Less than two hours left.

[[M] Colette]

Damn, I forgot about Tanaka's vote. *sighs*

[[M] Mom – Host]

About an hour left.

[[M] Anise]

:dread:

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

looks like I be gone! oh noes

[[M] Mom – Host]

About 45 minutes, guys

[[M] Colette]

Naoto;2971143']Sorry about not being around, I was dealing with some fatigue.

To clarify why I did not participate in the tie breaker when given the chance was simply a matter of of not believing either was truly guilty. Both suspects were trying too hard to stand out and put targets on their backs. I'm not the type to join in capital punishment against a suspect unless I know all the facts point to a guaranteed guilty verdict.

As I was suggesting earlier, I would be more concerned about those who are trying to stay below the radar. Considering how quick everyone was to lynch the obvious odd balls in the town, it would seem to me that the best course of action for the mafia members would be to mostly keep low profiles and try to avoid any kind of open suspicion, hence my suspicion of Chie, Yukiko, Namatame, and Hanako. I would also be somewhat suspicious of Souji, since he quickly came in, mentioned his "experience", jumped onto getting rid of Teddie rather quickly rather than be reluctant like most of the townsfolk were. It felt to me like they were creating a sense of rep for themselves, to get the rest of us to trust them. He quickly chooses a target and then quickly tries to steer everyone towards someone who is, sadly in hindsight, too obvious to be part of the mafia. In an effort to mislead us.

It just feels to me like Souji was trying to choose a target to get everyone frenzied over to cover their own tracks, while people really discuss things to see if anyone left more subtle clues. While this is certainly damning for myself as well, I feel the best way to hide would be to try an act like the authority and instigator.

OK, it's hard to believe that I might know what I am talking about, since I have admitted being new to the game, hence my agreement to the sacrafice, so I have looked up some of Naoto's posts to see if I can get any support fom our cop. I looked at how she voted and I see on the first and second day she voted for Shu. This makes me think that she investigated Shu and got a guilty answer, which makes me believe that there might be a Framer Mafia character in our midst. She also voted for Souji which makes me believe that on the day of the investigation the Wildcard status was showing as guilty. I would prefer to believe that these are the reasons and not because Naoto was a "naive" cop. Having said that, Naoto was suspicious of Yukiko as well, I am not sure she had a chance to investigate, but the suspicion is there. I see that she was also suspicious of of Chie who is dead, and Hanako, who is pretty much proven a voteless townie (sorry Kou, I looked but I didn't find any Mafia role that might be voteless as well). That just leaves Yukiko and Namatame and of the two I obviously believe Yukiko is Mafia scum.

[[M] Colette]

I hope I am in time and that Kashiwagi and Daisuke will come and be convinced. :|

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

well unless someone speaks up for me real soon, Im gone!

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

AEGH!

[[M] Colette]

Tanaka;2973076']No offense doll face, but 2 out of the 3 lynches that happened, the people you voted for were lynched and were not Mafia. You have a bad track history. :/

This is true Tanaka, but it was due to inexperience, I would hope I would learn from my mistakes. This is why I pulled away for awhile, so I could take the time to really try and figure out how to read characters and their postings. I believe my track record is about to improve.

[[M] Mom – Host]

20 minutes.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Okay, hang on. I need some more time to read through what I've missed.

##Unvote: Mitsuo

Please, no one vote for a little while, so I can read over what I've missed.

[[M] Mom – Host]

[M] Mitsuo (4) - [M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi, [M] Hanako, [M] Tanaka, [M] Kanji
[M] Yukiko (4) - [M] Nanako, [M] Rise, [M] Kou, [M] Mitsuo
[M] Hanako (2) - [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Daisuke
[M] Kanji (0) -
[M] Daidara (0) -

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Mitsuo;2973090']
Nanako;2973087']Dammit... Mitsuo is so going to be hung... I hope you guys are right.

Nope! Bye bye I guess
You guys will regret losing me afterward. You could say that I am on the watch for important mafia and cultists at night. Not allowed to tell you more than that

Okay, if you want to convince me to save you, I'm going to need something more substantial than that. Anything would do.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Also, sorry for forcing a tie, Igor.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Fifteen minutes, everyone.

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

It's not a tie Mitsuo has 5 and Yukiko has 4...

[[M] Mom – Host]

10 minutes left.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

I unvoted, thus Mitsuo only has 4, and so does Yukiko.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Five minutes, bitches. Unless someone votes or unvotes, we got ourselves a tie.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Okay, if I no one turns up to sway me in the next five minutes, I'll go with my gut and put my vote back on Mitsuo.

[[M] Colette]

Namatame, I present my case, please believe me and vote for Yukiko.

[[M] Mom – Host]

2 minutes, guys.

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

Oh yeah, Hanako... Haven't you read any of what Rise has said. Or even my point of view? Yukiko was all about lynching an inactive and set her sights on Hanako, then at the last minute she takes out her vote, forcing a tie, and making someone else break it. To me that all seems suspicious. Why would do that? Why not stick to her opinion, unless it was all a ploy to kill a townie?!?

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Namatame;2973154']
Mitsuo;2973090']
Nanako;2973087']Dammit... Mitsuo is so going to be hung... I hope you guys are right.

Nope! Bye bye I guess
You guys will regret losing me afterward. You could say that I am on the watch for important mafia and cultists at night. Not allowed to tell you more than that

Okay, if you want to convince me to save you, I'm going to need something more substantial than that. Anything would do.
My goal is to root out mafia power roles and get rid of them
any more and Igor will kill me

[[M] Colette]

Namatame, Naoto was not suspicious of Mitsuo. Don't you think he would have been the first to be investigated with the bad press he was getting?

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

*holds on to Rise*

[[M] Mom – Host]

We got ourselves a tie, guys.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Rise;2973177']Namatame, Naoto was not suspicious of Mitsuo. Don't you think he would have been the first to be investigated with the bad press he was getting?

exactly

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Okay, just give me five more minutes. I'm gonna read over some of Rise's posts about Yukiko and then I'll make my decision.

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

Namatame;2973181']Okay, just give me five more minutes. I'm gonna read over some of Rise's posts about Yukiko and then I'll make my decision.

In the words of Spike Lee... "Do the right thing"

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Nanako;2973183']
Namatame;2973181']Okay, just give me five more minutes. I'm gonna read over some of Rise's posts about Yukiko and then I'll make my decision.

In the words of Spike Lee... "Do the right thing"

But I don't know what the right thing is Nanako!!

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Mitsuo can you not even tell us the name of your role?

[[M] Mom – Host]

[M] Mitsuo (4) - [M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi, [M] Hanako, [M] Tanaka, [M] Kanji
[M] Yukiko (4) - [M] Nanako, [M] Rise, [M] Kou, [M] Mitsuo
[M] Hanako (2) - [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Daisuke
[M] Kanji (0) -
[M] Daidara (0) -

Votes still stand.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Namatame;2973185']
Nanako;2973183']
Namatame;2973181']Okay, just give me five more minutes. I'm gonna read over some of Rise's posts about Yukiko and then I'll make my decision.

In the words of Spike Lee... "Do the right thing"

But I don't know what the right thing is Nanako!!

This type of indecision I had in the first day is the reason people turned against me, you are going to choose one of us eventually buddy. It's your choice.

[[M] Anise]

Make up your mind man. And where are the others? -.-

[[M] Colette]

Look at Naoto's posts, in the beginning she said Mitsuo was suspicous, but then she doesn't say anything more. My belief is she found out he was not Mafia.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Namatame;2973186']Mitsuo can you not even tell us the name of your role?

wouldnt I get modkilled?

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Mitsuo;2973192']
Namatame;2973186']Mitsuo can you not even tell us the name of your role?

wouldnt I get modkilled?

I thought you just weren't allowed to post your role PM. You can still roleclaim, like Hanako claimed Vanilla Townie.

[[M] Anise]

I believe we're going to need an extension.

[[M] Colette]

Kou;2973194']I believe we're going to need an extension.

The extension has been granted, Igor is giving Namatame time to investigate.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Namatame;2973193']
Mitsuo;2973192']
Namatame;2973186']Mitsuo can you not even tell us the name of your role?

wouldnt I get modkilled?

I thought you just weren't allowed to post your role PM. You can still roleclaim, like Hanako claimed Vanilla Townie.

I claim Punisher
I win by taking out mafia power roles if they accidentaly drop a hint to their role. At this point I havent killed anyone

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

If town loses, I lose

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Okay. I've decided. I hate the fact that it's up to me to decide, and please forgive me if I'm wrong.

##Vote: Yukiko

I'm really sorry, but I feel like this way, even if I'm wrong, we have something of a lead tomorrow with Rise.
Please let this be the right decision!

[[M] Anise]

Punisher?? Does that even exist? o.o

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

OMG *clings to Mitsuo*

[[M] Mom – Host]

Yukiko seemed so sweet and innocent, so when a bullet passed through the window of the Amagi Inn, no one knew who could have done it.

It's good, though. Yukiko was a real bitch.

[M] Yukiko was a Mafia Goon played by Jessweeee!

Thanks Jess!

Night 4 starts now. Sned your night actions in in 24 hours.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Hanako was tired of the people making fun of her weight. She had it with them, so that's why she had decided to barracade herself locked in her own home, away from the mean people. Sadly. her home was engulfed by the fog that it disappeared.

Hanako was a Voteless Townie, played by ~*~Celes~*~ & Shattered Dreamer. Thanks for playing!

Tanaka was late for a meeting. He had planned to take train, but as he was waiting, an avid fan of his accidently pushed him into the path of a moving train. He was immediately killed on contact.

Tanaka was the Bus Driver, played by The Summoner of Leviathan. Thanks for playing!

Day 5 starts now! It shall take 6 votes for a majority. 24 hours till end.

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

2!? WHY 2?!

[[M] Athena]

##Vote: [M] Mitsuo

Hello Mr Serial Killer. Time for you to die, I feel.

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

Adachi-san, how do you know it's him?

[[M] Athena]

Dojima sama taught me how to spot dirty types! I'll leave you to mull on that while I go to bed. It's half 2 in the morning and I need my beauty sleep!

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

Okay... So there is 10 of us left... I don't know where to start, or who to look at.

[[M] Anise]

Hi guys. Let's not waste any time. We're down to 10 players. Let's suppose there's 3-4 mafia out there. 2 deaths means there's also a third party. This day is going to be decisive. Lynch a town and they're going to outnumber us!

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

Yeah right! We need to get another scum! God I hope we do.

[[M] Anise]

We have to find the serial killer today! Top suspects : Adachi, Mistuo, and Namatame. Spoiler for p4 game :p : Gameplay wise that's what they are, except for maybe Namatame. It's not supposed to be THAT accurate.. Half of the players have had roles that are connected to their game character. It's not such a ridiculous thought at this point right?

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

I guess not. I never played P4 so I don't know. i only ever played the first one, but never beat it. Is this the reason you're voting for Mitsuo?

[[M] Colette]

It does seem strange that Mitsuo claimed to be a character that I could not find an equivalent to in the "Mafia Roles" page. I don't know Nanako, he may not be Mafia, but that doesn't mean he's one of us. It reminds me of the character Wednesday in the Addams Family Movie when asked about her Halloween costume, "I'm a homicidal maniac, they look just like everyone else."

[[M] Anise]

I haven't voted yet. Most likely yes.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Just over 22 hours.

[M] Mistuo (1) - [M] Adachi

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

He was really quick to vote, and without enough reasoning. And he seems a bit too sure that Mitsuo is the Serial Killer... I'm sorry Adachi... :(

##VOTE: [M] Adachi

[[M] Anise]

Finally some posts. Wake up people :p.

I don't know about Adachi and Namatame, but Mitsuo has given me a lot of reasons to vote for him now.
- His roleclaim was utter crap. Punisher? Wth? He didn't even reveal if he had done anything with that role. I think it was a desperate attempt to save himself.
- He did not vote for Yukiko when he was in danger of a lynch. He dragged on and on about not having enough evidence and all, which was complete nonsense. A townie (or mafia for that matter) would logically vote for the other member with most votes to save themselves right? It's the logical thing to do. However he decided to put on that show on acting innocent and undecided, when we all knew that he was voting for Yukiko in the end. Perhaps to save himself from suspicion?
- Also Tanaka and Hanako who voted for him are both dead. I doubt he'd target Hanako since she was pretty harmless but who knows.
- It's a minor reason but it might be a character related role.

Therefore ##Vote: [M] Mitsuo. for now.

Now that I think about it, this is going to be quite fun. Townies and mafia alike do not want the serial killer around. We might get a little help from the mafia even. Catch my drift? :p.

[[M] Anise]

:lol:

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

I am the punisher, I think it's related to the comic books

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Kou;2973484']Finally some posts. Wake up people :p.

I don't know about Adachi and Namatame, but Mitsuo has given me a lot of reasons to vote for him now.
- His roleclaim was utter crap. Punisher? Wth? He didn't even reveal if he had done anything with that role. I think it was a desperate attempt to save himself.
- He did not vote for Yukiko when he was in danger of a lynch. He dragged on and on about not having enough evidence and all, which was complete nonsense. A townie (or mafia for that matter) would logically vote for the other member with most votes to save themselves right? It's the logical thing to do. However he decided to put on that show on acting innocent and undecided, when we all knew that he was voting for Yukiko in the end. Perhaps to save himself from suspicion?
- Also Tanaka and Hanako who voted for him are both dead. I doubt he'd target Hanako since she was pretty harmless but who knows.
- It's a minor reason but it might be a character related role.

Therefore ##Vote: [M] Mitsuo. for now.

Now that I think about it, this is going to be quite fun. Townies and mafia alike do not want the serial killer around. We might get a little help from the mafia even. Catch my drift? :p.

I had already told you guys I thought Rise was maybe mafia, I couldn't choose between them. Eventually I decided if Rise was wrong, I would go after her today, because surely one of the two were mafia.

Why would I target a townie if I lose with town losing

[[M] Anise]

Dude if you had voted Rise nothing would have changed. Your only choice was Yukiko!

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

No I'm saying that I decided if Rise was lying, then Rise had to be next. However, since she was right, then she isn't. It's a new day, a new mystery, and we still have no clue if the cult exists

[[M] Anise]

It still proves nothing.

We can say that the cult does not exist now. If it had existed than you'd think that they've recruited a bunch right? However no cult has ever shown up dead. And there's been many deaths.

Look there's three outcomes this day is going to have :
- We hang a townie. : 2 deaths the next day.
- We hang a mafia. : still 2 deaths the next day.
- We hang a serial killer : one death the next day.

We're near the end. Two deaths is too much for us to handle. Perhaps we will automatically lose by being outnumbered.
And sadly, I don't have any other solid serial killer candidate except for you. I know you're not mafia because Dojima's death pretty much proved it. He was in your favor yet he died. You'd have kept him alive if you were mafia right? And I find it hard to believe that you're townie by your reckless behavior. By elimination that only leaves the third party.
Although I am going to wait for Namatame and Adachi as well.

[[M] Colette]

Kou;2973484']Now that I think about it, this is going to be quite fun. Townies and mafia alike do not want the serial killer around. We might get a little help from the mafia even. Catch my drift? :p.

I honestly agree with this assessment. Neither Town nor Mafia is safe with a serial killer roaming loose. Like I said earlier, when I went searching through the Mafia Roles web page, I couldn't find anything that was related to targeting high powered mafia. I mean, how would he even know, unless he had an investigative power, which I didn't see anyone but cops (and FBI) agents) to have.

There was a time I had the opportunity and power to take him out, I am afraid the town has paid a high price for my innaccurate choice. I am not going to make the same mistake again.

##Vote: [M] Mitsuo

[[M] Mom – Host]

[M] Mistuo (3) - [M] Adachi, [M] Kou, [M] Rise
[M] Adachi (1) - [M] Nanako

20 hours.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Oh you guys suck, I am not a serial killer, the reason the mafia wants to lynch me is because I can't be night killed and they know that if they slip up and reveal themselves mafia I can take them out.

[[M] Anise]

Igor? O_O

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

Igor;2973507'][M] Mistuo (3) - [M] Adachi, [M] Kou, [M] Adachi
[M] Adachi (1) - [M] Nanako

20 hours.

Adachi counts as 2?

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

I don't have investigate power, If they slip up and I get a hint as to what their role is, I can PM Igor and if I guess right they die. So far I haven't got anyone

[[M] Mom – Host]

Mitsuo, don't insult the people you're playing with.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Oh please, peeps. *fixes*

[[M] Anise]

Mitsuo;2973508']Oh you guys suck, I am not a serial killer, the reason the mafia wants to lynch me is because I can't be night killed and they know that if they slip up and reveal themselves mafia I can take them out.

What the? How can someone slip up and reveal that they're mafia?
Okay, so you're saying that you can't be nightkilled, AND you can take mafia out if they slip up.
Even if you had that role it would be extremely overpowered.

Also Igor is Adachi a doublevoter or am I seeing double?

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Igor;2973512']Mitsuo, don't insult the people you're playing with.

what?

[[M] Mom – Host]

No. Let's not talk about this.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Don't tell your fellow players they suck. It's mean! >:O

I'm only joking.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Kou;2973514']
Mitsuo;2973508']Oh you guys suck, I am not a serial killer, the reason the mafia wants to lynch me is because I can't be night killed and they know that if they slip up and reveal themselves mafia I can take them out.

What the? How can someone slip up and reveal that they're mafia?
Okay, so you're saying that you can't be nightkilled, AND you can take mafia out if they slip up.
Even if you had that role it would be extremely overpowered.

Also Igor is Adachi a doublevoter or am I seeing double?

It depends on me being able to prove who they are and so far I haven't gotten anything. The only person I could have gotten was Hanako I guess because she's a voteless, but I didn't even know what that was till last night, and why would I take out a person whose vote doesn't even matter?

[[M] Colette]

Igor;2973507'][M] Mistuo (3) - [M] Adachi, [M] Kou, [M] Rise
[M] Adachi (1) - [M] Nanako

20 hours.

He fixed it, Adachi is not a double voter, he just accidently put his name instead of mine.

[[M] Anise]

Yeah I thought it was weird. We would have noticed it previously if he'd been that :p.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Kou;2973524']Yeah I thought it was weird. We would have noticed it previously if he'd been that :p.

That would be ridiculous.

[[M] Colette]

Double Voter is a legitimate Mafia Role, just Like Voteless Townie, Mitsuo.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Rise;2973527']Double Voter is a legitimate Mafia Role, just Like Voteless Townie, Mitsuo.

I know about double voter, but it would be one of the most ridiculous roles. Plus I'd already be dead

[[M] Colette]

That just looked wrong, I didn't mean to imply that Double Voter was mafia, only that there is a pro-town role called Double Voter.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

BTW, I'm still mad that you guys made me role claim to live. Not cool.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Rise;2973530']That just looked wrong, I didn't mean to imply that Double Voter was mafia, only that there is a pro-town role called Double Voter.

I gotcha, If anyone misunderstood that they are stoopid

[[M] Anise]

Well anyway,
Mitsuo I still don't get it. So you're saying that because Hanako was voteless you could target her? :confused:

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Kou;2973533']Well anyway,
Mitsuo I still don't get it. So you're saying that because Hanako was voteless you could target her? :confused:

I think so, thats a role other than vanilla that se claimed and you guys proved, but it's not exactly a power role, and as a townie that wouldn't help me much.

[[M] Caprica]

I don't buy your role claim either Mitsuo. Frankly, from what you said it's overpowered and breaks the game. You kill a mafia member if you can guess their exact role, and there is no limit to how often you can use it? That alone is overpowered, because there is no risk that you can kill townies my mistake with a misguided guess. Having night kill immunity is just the cherry on top of an already far too powerful role.

In any mafia setup, there must be balance. When you have a role that can win the game by itself that throws away all balance possible.

I would vote for you right now, but you are already halfway to a lynch and I want to avoid possible speedlynches. The day just started after all.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Kanji;2973538']I don't buy your role claim either Mitsuo. Frankly, from what you said it's overpowered and breaks the game. You kill a mafia member if you can guess their exact role, and there is no limit to how often you can use it? That alone is overpowered, because there is no risk that you can kill townies my mistake with a misguided guess. Having night kill immunity is just the cherry on top of an already far too powerful role.

In any mafia setup, there must be balance. When you have a role that can win the game by itself that throws away all balance possible.

I would vote for you right now, but you are already halfway to a lynch and I want to avoid possible speedlynches. The day just started after all.

I can use it once. So far I have missed with my guesses and so I still can do it

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

besides, If I get lynched at all, I lose, if town loses I lose, the only way I win is by wiping out all the mafia, and surviving

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Also, I can only guess once a night

[[M] Anise]

And you also cannot be nightkilled...

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

yes. So that's my only advantage. Plus Igor goes back through the posts made by that person and if he beleives they haven't incriminated themselves, no dice

[[M] Mom – Host]

About 21 hours left.

[M] Mistuo (3) - [M] Adachi, [M] Kou, [M] Rise
[M] Adachi (1) - [M] Nanako

6 for a majority lynch.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

well then, that's not very pleasant.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Anyone else feel that Mitsuo is just making up this role as he goes along?

[[M] Anise]

Dead as ever here huh? -.-
See you in the morning.
My vote still stands.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Hey, not cool. I'm not. I bet some of you guys are mafia, and are attacking me because you guys have been unable to nightkill me and so now you have to get me lynched

[[M] Colette]

Namatame;2973559']Anyone else feel that Mitsuo is just making up this role as he goes along?

Yes

Also, before I go out for the afternoon I want to leave everyone with a couple of thoughts:

1) I want to reiteriate that Naoto was our cop and she was not insane, naive, or paranoid. I have already had confirmation that if she was any of these things, we would have been told. So, because she was so adamant that Shu was mafia scum I believe she investigated him and got a guilty verdict, meaing there might be a Framer Mafia among us, although, if there are no more cops, I'm not sure if it is anymore dangerous than a regular mafia goon.

2) There was only one night kill on Night 3 which makes me think there is a Roleblocker in our midst. If so, that person must have blocked a mafia character rather than the serial killer since there were 2 kills on the following night. The mafia must have sent someone else to do their dirty work. If the Roleblocker does exist, I hope he/she finds a way to let us know without informing the Mafia who they are. It would be nice to be able to elminate their numbers and free the Role Blocker to block the next kill.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Mitsuo;2973562']Hey, not cool. I'm not. I bet some of you guys are mafia, and are attacking me because you guys have been unable to nightkill me and so now you have to get me lynched

Well, the only night that had only one kill was Night 3, where Naoto was killed. It's possible that the Mafia targeted you that night, but then, why wouldn't they have targeted you last night as well? Surely if they wanted you dead that badly they would have targeted you again, especially as you role claimed yesterday, a role that seems ridiculously overpowered and extremely dangerous to the Mafia. Sounds very fishy to me.

[[M] Mom – Host]

About 21 hours left.

[M] Mistuo (3) - [M] Adachi, [M] Kou, [M] Rise
[M] Adachi (1) - [M] Nanako

6 for a majority lynch.

20 hours, dudes and dudettes.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Namatame;2973565']
Mitsuo;2973562']Hey, not cool. I'm not. I bet some of you guys are mafia, and are attacking me because you guys have been unable to nightkill me and so now you have to get me lynched

Well, the only night that had only one kill was Night 3, where Naoto was killed. It's possible that the Mafia targeted you that night, but then, why wouldn't they have targeted you last night as well? Surely if they wanted you dead that badly they would have targeted you again, especially as you role claimed yesterday, a role that seems ridiculously overpowered and extremely dangerous to the Mafia. Sounds very fishy to me.
They would have realised that I couldn't be nightkilled, they didn't know my role until last night I bet

[[M] Caprica]

Namatame;2973559']Anyone else feel that Mitsuo is just making up this role as he goes along?
I do!

[[M] Caprica]

Mitsuo;2973534']
Kou;2973533']Well anyway,
Mitsuo I still don't get it. So you're saying that because Hanako was voteless you could target her? :confused:

I think so, thats a role other than vanilla that se claimed and you guys proved, but it's not exactly a power role, and as a townie that wouldn't help me much.
Caught you! You said you can only target mafia roles. Voteless townie is definitely not mafia. Stop making up stuff about your role, and post your real role please.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Kanji;2973582']
Mitsuo;2973534']
Kou;2973533']Well anyway,
Mitsuo I still don't get it. So you're saying that because Hanako was voteless you could target her? :confused:

I think so, thats a role other than vanilla that se claimed and you guys proved, but it's not exactly a power role, and as a townie that wouldn't help me much.
Caught you! You said you can only target mafia roles. Voteless townie is definitely not mafia. Stop making up stuff about your role, and post your real role please.

I said I think so. I never said I couldn't take out townies, I said I win by getting rid of all the power roles

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

also that I lose with town

[[M] Caprica]

Oh look you said something different yesterday. Liars always contradict themselves in the end.

Mitsuo;2973197']
Namatame;2973193']
Mitsuo;2973192']
Namatame;2973186']Mitsuo can you not even tell us the name of your role?

wouldnt I get modkilled?

I thought you just weren't allowed to post your role PM. You can still roleclaim, like Hanako claimed Vanilla Townie.

I claim Punisher
I win by taking out mafia power roles if they accidentaly drop a hint to their role. At this point I havent killed anyone

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Its the same freaking thing. I have to take out the mafia in order to win, because most of them would be power roles. If I take out a townie power role, it would only be when we've narrowed it down to 1 mafia, also, they have to roleclaim or Igor ignores them

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

I tried to get Adachi on night two because he said he was gonna go investigate, but then Igor ignored him because he hadn't roleclaimed cop.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

There, all my cards are out in the open. Now, if you can help me root out the mafia so I can try and eliminate them....

[[M] Caprica]

Mitsuo;2973590']I tried to get Adachi on night two because he said he was gonna go investigate, but then Igor ignored him because he hadn't roleclaimed cop.
You tried to kill someone you thought was a COP???

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Kanji;2973605']
Mitsuo;2973590']I tried to get Adachi on night two because he said he was gonna go investigate, but then Igor ignored him because he hadn't roleclaimed cop.
You tried to kill someone you thought was a COP???

I thought he was lying, but I didn't know all the rules of my role yet, I didn't realise they had to roleclaim

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Kanji;2973605']
Mitsuo;2973590']I tried to get Adachi on night two because he said he was gonna go investigate, but then Igor ignored him because he hadn't roleclaimed cop.
You tried to kill someone you thought was a COP???

Seriously, wtf dude!?
Is he trying to get us to lynch him!?

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Mitsuo;2973606']
Kanji;2973605']
Mitsuo;2973590']I tried to get Adachi on night two because he said he was gonna go investigate, but then Igor ignored him because he hadn't roleclaimed cop.
You tried to kill someone you thought was a COP???

I thought he was lying, but I didn't know all the rules of my role yet, I didn't realise they had to roleclaim

It sounds like you still don't know the rules of your role, considering your description was all over the place. Why don't you put the rules of your role into one nice post for us, so we can look it over?

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Namatame;2973607']
Kanji;2973605']
Mitsuo;2973590']I tried to get Adachi on night two because he said he was gonna go investigate, but then Igor ignored him because he hadn't roleclaimed cop.
You tried to kill someone you thought was a COP???

Seriously, wtf dude!?
Is he trying to get us to lynch him!?
read my previous post

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Mitsuo;2973611']
Namatame;2973607']
Kanji;2973605']
Mitsuo;2973590']I tried to get Adachi on night two because he said he was gonna go investigate, but then Igor ignored him because he hadn't roleclaimed cop.
You tried to kill someone you thought was a COP???

Seriously, wtf dude!?
Is he trying to get us to lynch him!?
read my previous post
Read my previous post.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Namatame;2973610']
Mitsuo;2973606']
Kanji;2973605']
Mitsuo;2973590']I tried to get Adachi on night two because he said he was gonna go investigate, but then Igor ignored him because he hadn't roleclaimed cop.
You tried to kill someone you thought was a COP???

I thought he was lying, but I didn't know all the rules of my role yet, I didn't realise they had to roleclaim

It sounds like you still don't know the rules of your role, considering your description was all over the place. Why don't you put the rules of your role into one nice post for us, so we can look it over?
Fine:

I win if all the power roles are gone, this includes all the mafia. Therefore, if the mafia wins or I am lynched, I lose. I can only remove one role (as far as I know) and I am only allowed to guess one person per night. THey must have made a role claim for the thing to be effective. I cannot be night killed. On night one, I sent in no guess, on night 2, I guessed Adachi because I assumed he was claiming cop and was lying when he said he was gonna go investigate. Since then I have sent in no guesses, therefore, there must be either a rouge role or the mafia has a power killing role, which is my main priority to weed out.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Why would you not send in any guesses? You've just been completely wasting your role and not even bothering to try and help the town with it.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Namatame;2973619']Why would you not send in any guesses? You've just been completely wasting your role and not even bothering to try and help the town with it.

BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO ROLECLAIM OR GIVE SIGNIFICANT EVIDENCE OF CLAIMING A ROLE!

you do realise the mafians are reading all this right now, and now they wont ever drop a hint.

[[M] Colette]

Mitsuo;2973590']I tried to get Adachi on night two because he said he was gonna go investigate, but then Igor ignored him because he hadn't roleclaimed cop.

Mitsuo, I think you are full of it. Adachi doesn't have to "roleclaim" cop, I doubt Igor is going to let him dictate what role he's going to play. I'm sure what he meant when said he was going to go investigate was the same kind of investigation the rest of us are doing; combing through the posts in this thread to discipher what people are saying.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Rise;2973622']
Mitsuo;2973590']I tried to get Adachi on night two because he said he was gonna go investigate, but then Igor ignored him because he hadn't roleclaimed cop.

Mitsuo, I think you are full of it. Adachi doesn't have to "roleclaim" cop, I doubt Igor is going to let him dictate what role he's going to play. I'm sure what he meant when said he was going to go investigate was the same kind of investigation the rest of us are doing; combing through the posts in this thread to discipher what people are saying.

I know, I was hoping that it would count because I'm still pretty sure he is mafia

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

especially since the first thing he did today was pop up and set a fire in order to remove me from the picture

[[M] Mom – Host]

[M] Mistuo (3) - [M] Adachi, [M] Kou, [M] Rise
[M] Adachi (1) - [M] Nanako

6 for a majority lynch.

19 hours.

[[M] Colette]

This isn't about whether or not Adachi is mafia because the mafia would benefit from taking out a serial killer as well. So even if it were so, it would not make you innocent of being a serial killer.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Im not a serial killer!
holy crap, my computer screen started turning red, what is going on!

[[M] Colette]

It is detecting your lies and shutting you down.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

I lol'd

[[M] Colette]

You know guys, I walked away from the computer, all I kept thinking was what a damn fool Mitsuo is, what with his stupid "Punisher" character story, the boy must be trying to get himself lynched...

That's when I remembered reading a role called the Jester who's goal is to get himself lynched. He taunts us in the sign-up and discussion thread, betting he is not Mafia and he's not a serial killer. I'm wondering if he is the Jester character, and if he wins by being lynched, if it will hurt the town. :(

This is just me pondering, I would like someone (other than you Mitsuo) to comment on this. I am not changing my vote until a thorough discussion is held concerning this.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Rise;2973645']You know guys, I walked away from the computer, all I kept thinking was what a damn fool Mitsuo is, what with his stupid "Punisher" character story, the boy must be trying to get himself lynched...

That's when I remembered reading a role called the Jester who's goal is to get himself lynched. He taunts us in the sign-up and discussion thread, betting he is not Mafia and he's not a serial killer. I'm wondering if he is the Jester character, and if he wins by being lynched, if it will hurt the town. :(

This is just me pondering, I would like someone (other than you Mitsuo) to comment on this. I am not changing my vote until a thorough discussion is held concerning this.

lololololololololololololol
I commented

[[M] Caprica]

I think he is just making himself an easy target. It helps the mafia because they can use his planted evidence to throw him under the bus, and it looks like they outed him, and we gain their trust because hey, that person sniffed out scum, thats the way to gain trust.

if he is a jester then kudos to him for getting killed. Boo to him for taking the spotlight three days and letting the mafia hide much more easially during those days. (we did get Yukiko though despite his efforts.)

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Kanji;2973649']I think he is just making himself an easy target. It helps the mafia because they can use his planted evidence to throw him under the bus, and it looks like they outed him, and we gain their trust because hey, that person sniffed out scum, thats the way to gain trust.

if he is a jester then kudos to him for getting killed. Boo to him for taking the spotlight three days and letting the mafia hide much more easially during those days. (we did get Yukiko though despite his efforts.)
What!?!? you have to be smurfing kidding me. I didn't have any clue which one of Rise and Yuyiko was mafia. If I wanted to be lynched I would have voted for nanako. I am now convinced you are mafia.

##vote: kanji

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

My theory is that two nights ago you tried to night kill me and couldn't and thats why yesterday morning you all of the sudden flipped out for getting me lynched! you are the serial killer Kanji!

[[M] Caprica]

Actually if you wanted to be lynched you would have just not voted, because the self vote would have ended in your death.

Thus Mitsuo is not the jester. He is either the serial killer or just plain old mafia.

Both roles mean we need to kill him.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Kanji;2973655']Actually if you wanted to be lynched you would have just not voted, because the self vote would have ended in your death.

Thus Mitsuo is not the jester. He is either the serial killer or just plain old mafia.

Both roles mean we need to kill him.

I am neither one, you are trying to remove the obvious blame from yourself! besides you can't self lynch you blundering baboon.

[[M] Caprica]

Mitsuo;2973656']
Kanji;2973655']Actually if you wanted to be lynched you would have just not voted, because the self vote would have ended in your death.

Thus Mitsuo is not the jester. He is either the serial killer or just plain old mafia.

Both roles mean we need to kill him.

I am neither one, you are trying to remove the obvious blame from yourself! besides you can't self lynch you blundering baboon.
Yes you can. It's called voting for yourself.

Stop trying to use insults to prove a point. It only highlights how desperate you are in trying to save yourself and discredit me.

[[M] Colette]

True, we did get Yukiko, but it was like pulling teeth to get him to change his vote from you to her and even when he did there was still a majority vote on him. He didn't know I was going to be able to convince Namatame to change his vote to Yukiko.

I don't really think he is Mafia because Yukiko consistantly voted for him, exept on the second night when she voted for Shu. If he is not the Jester, I think he is the Serial Killer.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Kanji;2973658']
Mitsuo;2973656']
Kanji;2973655']Actually if you wanted to be lynched you would have just not voted, because the self vote would have ended in your death.

Thus Mitsuo is not the jester. He is either the serial killer or just plain old mafia.

Both roles mean we need to kill him.

I am neither one, you are trying to remove the obvious blame from yourself! besides you can't self lynch you blundering baboon.
Yes you can. It's called voting for yourself.

Stop trying to use insults to prove a point. It only highlights how desperate you are in trying to save yourself and discredit me.

you scandalous scallywag, you can't vote for yourself. I am not desperate, I still have one person on my side, and that's all I need to be happy. How are you gonna defend yourself tommorow If I am lynched and it turns out I am the punisher?

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Rise;2973659']True, we did get Yukiko, but it was like pulling teeth to get him to change his vote from you to her and even when he did there was still a majority vote on him. He didn't know I was going to be able to convince Namatame to change his vote to Yukiko.

I don't really think he is Mafia because Yukiko consistantly voted for him, exept on the second night when she voted for Shu. If he is not the Jester, I think he is the Serial Killer.

Look at the facts, night 3, only one killing. day 4, Kanji imediatly turns on me and starts trying to get me lynched. He has to be the serial killer, it is the only thing that makes sense.

[[M] Colette]

Actually, I haven't seen Kanji do anything suspicious at all.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Rise;2973664']Actually, I haven't seen Kanji do anything suspicious at all.

the first thing he did yesterday morning was to turn against me. He feels he has to get rid of me by lynch because he was unabe to nightkill me.

[[M] Colette]

BTW: I was I have already posted my theories about why there was only one kill on Night 3. I doubt its because of an outragous character that you claim, and more likely because someone's role is the RoleBlocker.

[[M] Colette]

Mitsuo;2973667']
Rise;2973664']Actually, I haven't seen Kanji do anything suspicious at all.

the first thing he did yesterday morning was to turn against me. He feels he has to get rid of me by lynch because he was unabe to nightkill me.

I think he believes you are Mafia and that is why he voted for you.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

but I haven't killed anyone.

I summon daidara, I know you are lurking

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Rise;2973669']
Mitsuo;2973667']
Rise;2973664']Actually, I haven't seen Kanji do anything suspicious at all.

the first thing he did yesterday morning was to turn against me. He feels he has to get rid of me by lynch because he was unabe to nightkill me.

I think he believes you are Mafia and that is why he voted for you.

first thing when the day started?

[[M] Colette]

Yup

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

Mitsuo;2973651']
Kanji;2973649']I think he is just making himself an easy target. It helps the mafia because they can use his planted evidence to throw him under the bus, and it looks like they outed him, and we gain their trust because hey, that person sniffed out scum, thats the way to gain trust.

if he is a jester then kudos to him for getting killed. Boo to him for taking the spotlight three days and letting the mafia hide much more easially during those days. (we did get Yukiko though despite his efforts.)
What!?!? you have to be smurfing kidding me. I didn't have any clue which one of Rise and Yuyiko was mafia. If I wanted to be lynched I would have voted for nanako. I am now convinced you are mafia.

##vote: kanji

Woah wait what? How would voting for me get you lynched? And I may be new to this but all this 'punisher' stuff sounds cooked up at the last minute. It also seems like an over-powered role... I'm so confused by everything. Like what you say could be feasible, but then what they say to contradict you makes sense too...

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Nanako;2973673']
Mitsuo;2973651']
Kanji;2973649']I think he is just making himself an easy target. It helps the mafia because they can use his planted evidence to throw him under the bus, and it looks like they outed him, and we gain their trust because hey, that person sniffed out scum, thats the way to gain trust.

if he is a jester then kudos to him for getting killed. Boo to him for taking the spotlight three days and letting the mafia hide much more easially during those days. (we did get Yukiko though despite his efforts.)
What!?!? you have to be smurfing kidding me. I didn't have any clue which one of Rise and Yuyiko was mafia. If I wanted to be lynched I would have voted for nanako. I am now convinced you are mafia.

##vote: kanji

Woah wait what? How would voting for me get you lynched? And I may be new to this but all this 'punisher' stuff sounds cooked up at the last minute. It also seems like an over-powered role... I'm so confused by everything. Like what you say could be feasible, but then what they say to contradict you makes sense too...

Its not over powered unless people are stupidly roleclaiming all day long. Votng for you would get my lynched for sure because there is no reason to suspect you.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Rise;2973672']Yup

why? the first day he was like whatever to me, the second day I was gone, most of the 3rd day too I beleive... who got lynched that day? and all the sudden we are supposed to beleive that he is convinced I am mafia overnight?

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

##unvote:kanji
##vote:daidara
##unvote:daidara
##vote: kanji

come on, you always come out when someone votes for you

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Couldn't the Naoto Night-kill also be because the SK and Mafia both targeted her on that night?

[[M] Colette]

Mitsuo;2973676']
Rise;2973672']Yup

why? the first day he was like whatever to me, the second day I was gone, most of the 3rd day too I beleive... who got lynched that day? and all the sudden we are supposed to beleive that he is convinced I am mafia overnight?

It's not like it was Day 2, it was already Day 4. By that time he had plenty of your posts to sift through to determine whether or not he believes you to be guilty.

Right now you have said enough to get yourself hung, where as Kanji has not done anything to make me suspicious of him.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Namatame;2973678']Couldn't the Naoto Night-kill also be because the SK and Mafia both targeted her on that night?

That is possible, I am just assuming that they targeted different people and that I am the only non-night killable

[[M] Colette]

Namatame;2973678']Couldn't the Naoto Night-kill also be because the SK and Mafia both targeted her on that night?

I don't know, you will have to ask someone with more experience playing the game. I was just stating a theory, I threw it out there with the hopes that if it is true then maybe the Role Blocker might be able to at least give us a hint. Being new to the game I am just trying to come up with logical theories as to why things happen.

[[M] Caprica]

Watch this Mitsuo. One can vote for themselves.

##Vote: Kanji

Also it's unvoting Daidara that summons him, not voting for him.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

If only we still had our cop....

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

I've tried to vote for myself last year and it doesn't work.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

I unvoted and voted for him, so he should've shown up.... also, has anyone seen daisuke?

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Rise, by day four he really only had my posts on day one, I had nothing to do with day 2 or 3, and on day 1 he was fine with me. He HAD to have tried to night kill me and failed!

[[M] Caprica]

Rise;2973683']
Namatame;2973678']Couldn't the Naoto Night-kill also be because the SK and Mafia both targeted her on that night?

I don't know, you will have to ask someone with more experience playing the game. I was just stating a theory, I threw it out there with the hopes that if it is true then maybe the Role Blocker might be able to at least give us a hint. Being new to the game I am just trying to come up with logical theories as to why things happen.
I would say it's a possibility.

I also think that discussing it is a waste of time because we have no way of finding out all the night actions. Pushing for discussion about it is a very scummy thing to do because there are so many things that can happen.

Also note that it exactly what Mitsuo is basing his case against me off of.

Tip: base your case using evidence from the thread, that way others can see it and form their own opinion on it. Unless of course you are an investigative role, then you roleclaim and say what you found out.

A roleclaim is when you say. This is a generic role claim formula, you might have to modify it based on what the role actually is.

I am {role here} and targeted this {person here} and got {result here}

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

I am the punisher and targeted adachi on night two, and got jack squat for results/

happy? also, weren't there two deaths on night two? If I am supposed to be the serial killer, how can I have killed someone AND attacked Adachi?

[[M] Caprica]

Mitsuo;2973688']Rise, by day four he really only had my posts on day one, I had nothing to do with day 2 or 3, and on day 1 he was fine with me. He HAD to have tried to night kill me and failed!
My suspicion of you was finalized when you went after Hanako so adamantly.

I very clearly stated why this was suspicious, and that is why I think you are scum.

Stop inventing reasons for me to be suspicious of you.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Kanji;2973692']
Mitsuo;2973688']Rise, by day four he really only had my posts on day one, I had nothing to do with day 2 or 3, and on day 1 he was fine with me. He HAD to have tried to night kill me and failed!
My suspicion of you was finalized when you went after Hanako so adamantly.

I very clearly stated why this was suspicious, and that is why I think you are scum.

Stop inventing reasons for me to be suspicious of you.

that doesnt make any sense, WE WERE ALL AFTER HANAKO THE NIGHT BEFORE (until about ten minutes before the day ended)

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

So here's a question: say you guys lynch me then I flip the punisher. what would you do next?

[[M] Caprica]

Mitsuo;2973691']I am the punisher and targeted adachi on night two, and got jack squat for results/

happy? also, weren't there two deaths on night two? If I am supposed to be the serial killer, how can I have killed someone AND attacked Adachi?
Because I think you didn't target Adachi, but killed either Morooka or Chie. Whoever you didn't kill the other killer did.

Or you are just Mafia and Souji killed the other person for some reason. (Part of his role was Orange which means it's a killing role.)

[[M] Caprica]

Mitsuo;2973695']So here's a question: say you guys lynch me then I flip the punisher. what would you do next?
Apologize in the discussion thread, wait until day 6, hope we are not nightkilled, then continue trying to sniff out the mafia.

Also for all we know Punisher could be a mafia power role.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Kanji;2973696']
Mitsuo;2973691']I am the punisher and targeted adachi on night two, and got jack squat for results/

happy? also, weren't there two deaths on night two? If I am supposed to be the serial killer, how can I have killed someone AND attacked Adachi?
Because I think you didn't target Adachi, but killed either Morooka or Chie. Whoever you didn't kill the other killer did.

Or you are just Mafia and Souji killed the other person for some reason. (Part of his role was Orange which means it's a killing role.)

Didn't they both think I was innocent? why would I attack them?

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Kanji;2973698']
Mitsuo;2973695']So here's a question: say you guys lynch me then I flip the punisher. what would you do next?
Apologize in the discussion thread, wait until day 6, hope we are not nightkilled, then continue trying to sniff out the mafia.

Also for all we know Punisher could be a mafia power role.

it's not, that wouldn't be fair. What you guys don't realise is as long as I'm around, that's one less person the mafia can get rid of each night.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

wait, cross that out, if they can't get me they'll just go after others

[[M] Caprica]

Igor;2972250']Ah, so Souji shall be lynched today...

End votecount.

[M] Souji (5) - [M] Naoto, [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Kanji, [M] Daidara, [M] Daisuke
[M] Hanako (4) - [M] Namatame, [M] Mitsuo, [M] Nanako, [M] Adachi
[M] Rise (1) - [M] Souji
[M] Naoto (0) -
[M] Daidara (0) -
[M] Kou - (0) -
[M] Mitsuo (0) -
[M] Kanji (0) -
Here is the ending votes from day 3.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

What does the Day 3 Votes have to do with anything?

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

yeah I made my vote early in the day and then left and when I came back Souji was dead, so that only gave you my day 1 posts to be suspicious of.

[[M] Caprica]

Namatame;2973705']What does the Day 3 Votes have to do with anything?

It's to show where my suspicion of Mitsuo came from. Because he is convinced I started to go after him for no reason, which is not the case at all.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Oh, okay.

[[M] Caprica]

Mitsuo;2973706']yeah I made my vote early in the day and then left and when I came back Souji was dead, so that only gave you my day 1 posts to be suspicious of.
My suspicions came from your vote on Day 4

Yukiko was mafia and she tried to get a bandwagon on Hanako. You follow suit and try to bandwagon on Hanako as well as speedlynch her. My defense of Hanako was enough to stop that plan, and Yukiko switches to you to try and save herself, as well as distance the two of you.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

then what was it! I was trying to get people to follow through on the previous day's commitment. If I was a serial killer I coulda taken her out that night! I ended up retracting my vote because she claimed vanilla! also, why would mafia take out a voteless townie!?!!?

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Kanji;2973709']
Mitsuo;2973706']yeah I made my vote early in the day and then left and when I came back Souji was dead, so that only gave you my day 1 posts to be suspicious of.
My suspicions came from your vote on Day 4

Yukiko was mafia and she tried to get a bandwagon on Hanako. You follow suit and try to bandwagon on Hanako as well as speedlynch her. My defense of Hanako was enough to stop that plan, and Yukiko switches to you to try and save herself, as well as distance the two of you.

what? that makes no sense! At least not the way I'm understanding it. Why would she intentionally try to make me and her seem opposite. She agreed with you virtually the whole time! infact she voted for me after you did didn't she!??!

[[M] Mom – Host]

[M] Mistuo (3) - [M] Adachi, [M] Kou, [M] Rise
[M] Kanji (2) - [M] Mitsuo, [M] Kanji
[M] Adachi (1) - [M] Nanako
[M] Daidara (0)


6 for a majority lynch. 17 hours, btw.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

HOLY CRAP IT WORKED!?!?!?!?
I have to take it back, apparently you can vote for yoursef this time, go ahead and unvote yourelf

[[M] Caprica]

Yukiko likely knew she had a good chance of getting lynched. She didn't want to be connected to her mafia buddies and instead tried to connect herself to as many townies as possible, and at the same time distance herself from the other mafia members.

[[M] Caprica]

##Unvote: Kanji

Told you :p

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Fine. I know I'm innocent, you think I'm guilty. What is your role claim?

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

How long left Iggy?

[[M] Caprica]

why should I tell you that?

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Kanji;2973715']Yukiko likely knew she had a good chance of getting lynched. She didn't want to be connected to her mafia buddies and instead tried to connect herself to as many townies as possible, and at the same time distance herself from the other mafia members.

But she was never friendly with me, and she just pretty much did what you did.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Kanji;2973719']why should I tell you that?

because I had to tell you my role, now the mafians will never slip up and I will never be able to night kill. Basically this has turned my power role into: you can't be night killed.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Mitsuo;2973722']
Kanji;2973719']why should I tell you that?

because I had to tell you my role, now the mafians will never slip up and I will never be able to night kill. Basically this has turned my power role into: you can't be night killed.

Because you roleclaimed doesn't mean everyone has to.

[[M] Colette]

OK Kanji, like I said I was just trying to figure the game out, and I thought that was what discussion was all about. I have place my vote on Mistuo because I think he is guilty of being the serial killer, the Jester thing only popped into my mind because he seems to be acting in a way that is only going to get him lynched.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

YOuwouldnt vote for yuyiko until I role claimed! If I hadn't roleclaimed then she would still be alive and you'd be down a friendly

[[M] Helo]

Hi guys.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Mitsuo;2973725']YOuwouldnt vote for yuyiko until I role claimed! If I hadn't roleclaimed then she would still be alive and you'd be down a friendly

It was Rise that convinced me to vote for Yukiko actually.

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

Mitsuo... I hope you are not lying. I'm keeping my vote on Adachi-san for now. If it comes down to it, and you are Mafia scum, I will learn necromancy, bring you back from the dead, and kill you all over again, whilst letting Kanji use you as a human punching bag!

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Rise;2973724']OK Kanji, like I said I was just trying to figure the game out, and I thought that was what discussion was all about. I have place my vote on Mistuo because I think he is guilty of being the serial killer, the Jester thing only popped into my mind because he seems to be acting in a way that is only going to get him lynched.

Thanks alot, and after begging me to vote with you yesterday

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Apparently without her father around, Nanako has gone completely off the rails.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Namatame;2973727']
Mitsuo;2973725']YOuwouldnt vote for yuyiko until I role claimed! If I hadn't roleclaimed then she would still be alive and you'd be down a friendly

It was Rise that convinced me to vote for Yukiko actually.

THEN WHY DID YOU MAKE ME ROLECLAIM!

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Mitsuo;2973732']
Rise;2973724']OK Kanji, like I said I was just trying to figure the game out, and I thought that was what discussion was all about. I have place my vote on Mistuo because I think he is guilty of being the serial killer, the Jester thing only popped into my mind because he seems to be acting in a way that is only going to get him lynched.

Thanks alot, and after begging me to vote with you yesterday

Well she was right, wasn't she?

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Mitsuo;2973734']
Namatame;2973727']
Mitsuo;2973725']YOuwouldnt vote for yuyiko until I role claimed! If I hadn't roleclaimed then she would still be alive and you'd be down a friendly

It was Rise that convinced me to vote for Yukiko actually.

THEN WHY DID YOU MAKE ME ROLECLAIM!

CAPS LOCK MAKES EVERYTHING BETTER!

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Daisuke;2973726']Hi guys.

What do you think, am I innocent, or should I just leave?

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Namatame;2973737']
Mitsuo;2973734']
Namatame;2973727']
Mitsuo;2973725']YOuwouldnt vote for yuyiko until I role claimed! If I hadn't roleclaimed then she would still be alive and you'd be down a friendly

It was Rise that convinced me to vote for Yukiko actually.

THEN WHY DID YOU MAKE ME ROLECLAIM!

CAPS LOCK MAKES EVERYTHING BETTER!

INDEED IT DOES, ANSWER MY QUESTION!

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Namatame;2973735']
Mitsuo;2973732']
Rise;2973724']OK Kanji, like I said I was just trying to figure the game out, and I thought that was what discussion was all about. I have place my vote on Mistuo because I think he is guilty of being the serial killer, the Jester thing only popped into my mind because he seems to be acting in a way that is only going to get him lynched.

Thanks alot, and after begging me to vote with you yesterday

Well she was right, wasn't she?

yeah, but not this time....

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

Namatame;2973733']Apparently without her father around, Nanako has gone completely off the rails.

Well my family is dead :( So Yes! I've lost it.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Mitsuo;2973739']
Namatame;2973737']
Mitsuo;2973734']
Namatame;2973727']
Mitsuo;2973725']YOuwouldnt vote for yuyiko until I role claimed! If I hadn't roleclaimed then she would still be alive and you'd be down a friendly

It was Rise that convinced me to vote for Yukiko actually.

THEN WHY DID YOU MAKE ME ROLECLAIM!

CAPS LOCK MAKES EVERYTHING BETTER!

INDEED IT DOES, ANSWER MY QUESTION!

Technically, it wasn't a question. Notice you put no '?' at the end of it? But still, I'll humor you for now.

I didn't make you roleclaim, you'd already started to yourself. To me it seemed incredibly fishy how vague you were being and I needed something more concrete to try and sway me into voting Yukiko. In the end though, it was Rise's posts that convinced me to vote Yukiko. If I could, I would have killed both of you right then.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Nanako;2973742']
Namatame;2973733']Apparently without her father around, Nanako has gone completely off the rails.

Well my family is dead :( So Yes! I've lost it.

It's okay, Nanako. We're all here for you. I miss Dojima too. Not in the same way you do, because it would be wierd if you missed him like I do, but you get what I mean.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

meanie

[[M] Helo]

Mitsuo;2973738']
Daisuke;2973726']Hi guys.

What do you think, am I innocent, or should I just leave?

I have no idea:|

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Well it's quiet now that Kanji and Rise suddenly left.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Daisuke;2973747']
Mitsuo;2973738']
Daisuke;2973726']Hi guys.

What do you think, am I innocent, or should I just leave?

I have no idea:|

well, thats real helpful.

##unvote: kanji
##vote: adachi

my number one suspect since day 1... I finally vote for you

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Can I ask why you're voting for Adachi, Mitsuo?

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Namatame;2973751']Can I ask why you're voting for Adachi, Mitsuo?
Because I haven't liked him since day one, he opened up the day by voting for me, and I don't wanna die