Schwarzeneggaer back for the next Terminator

[Dreddz]

Arnold Schwarzenegger says 'I'll be back' to fifth Terminator movie - mirror.co.uk (http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2011/04/28/arnold-schwarzenegger-says-i-ll-be-back-to-fifth-terminator-movie-115875-23090834/)

Pretty big news just dropped today saying that Arnold has confirmed that he is going to appear in the next Terminator movie. Not quite sure what to make of this. I want Arnold back but he isn't in his prime anymore so how he'll handle this I'm unsure of.

Kind of surprised that he is down for another Terminator after he claimed he wouldn't go back to the franchise if James Cameron isn't involved. To be honest I'm not sure if I even want another Terminator if Cameron isn't there. T3 and T4 just didn't cut it. I'd much rather he teamed up with Cameron for the True Lies sequel that has been mentioned on and off for the last few years.

What do you lot think?

[NorthernChaosGod]

What are you talking about? There was no Terminator after Judgement Day. :colbert:

[Dreddz]

What are you talking about? There was no Terminator after Judgement Day. :colbert:
My heart is with you there. Gets me all teary eyed thinking about what happened.

[Depression Moon]

So the story of Salvation wasn't complete?

[Goldenboko]

So the story of Salvation wasn't complete?

Terminator, like all other good things, will be milked until its soul is dried and hollow. And I shall continue watching the sequels to fuel the monster. God. Bless. America.

[Shaibana]

hahahaha @ golden :D

ya... its so typical.. the cow is dead and still theyre milking it..
the Saw movies would be the biggest example for that

[DMKA]

T1 is a classic
T2 was wondeful
T3 is meh
T4 is MEEEEEEEHHHHH I CAN WATCH THIS...MAYBE...TO THE END...PERHAPS...I THINK

I can't imagine a fifth film being anything thing but awful.

Perhaps they should have Michael Bay or Roland Emmerich direct it. They're pretty good at squeezing the most entertainment out of an all but non-existent, terrible plot via over the top explosions.

[sharkythesharkdogg]

hahahaha @ golden :D

ya... its so typical.. the cow is dead and still theyre milking it..
the Saw movies would be the biggest example for that

Horror movies in general are famous for this. Jason, Halloween, Nightmare on Elm Street. Ugh.


T1 is a classic
T2 was wondeful
T3 is meh
T4 is MEEEEEEEHHHHH I CAN WATCH THIS...MAYBE...TO THE END...PERHAPS...I THINK

I can't imagine a fifth film being anything thing but awful.

Perhaps they should haveMichael Bay or Roland Emmerich direct it. They're pretty good at squeezing the most entertainment out of an all but non-existent, terrible plot via over the top explosions.

Please, no!!! He's like the Grim Reaper of successful franchises. He's an over-paid, over-hyped Uwe Boll.....

[Rocket Edge]

I can't really see how this is going to work. Arnie is like 63 or something like that right? I just don't think they can make a believable Terminator with a guy that age. T3 was stretching it already. I'm with you guys on James Cameron too - the series has missed him big time since T2 and hasn't been right since. Ironically I just watched T2 last night.

[DMKA]

Please, no!!! He's like the Grim Reaper of successful franchises.



Transformers: $709,709,780
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: $836,297,228

Hasbro disagrees.

[sharkythesharkdogg]

Call me sentimental but I watch a movie for the story, not to see a new line of merchandise for the Christmas season. :colbert:

[Ouch!]

Say what you will about the lack of plot in a Michael Bay film, but the man knows how to direct actions scenes. That's a talent sorely lacking in Hollywood right now, replaced by shaking cameras and general incoherence.

[TrollHunter]

Call me sentimental but I watch a movie for the story, not to see a new line of merchandise for the Christmas season. :colbert:

Call me simple but I watch a movie for the explosions and action, hence why the expendables was a very entertaining movie to me.

[NorthernChaosGod]

Call me sentimental, but I watch movies for more than one reason.

[charliepanayi]

Say what you will about the lack of plot in a Michael Bay film, but the man knows how to direct actions scenes. That's a talent sorely lacking in Hollywood right now, replaced by shaking cameras and general incoherence.

Yeah, mainly in Michael Bay films!

And let's not quote box office grosses for the Transformers franchise, it's far too depressing to see.

[Ouch!]

Say what you will about the lack of plot in a Michael Bay film, but the man knows how to direct actions scenes. That's a talent sorely lacking in Hollywood right now, replaced by shaking cameras and general incoherence.

Yeah, mainly in Michael Bay films!
Michael Bay films have action sequences far more coherent than other staples such as the Borne or [recent] Bond series.

[Dreddz]

Michael Bay did direct The Rock as well as the Bad Boy films. Whether that makes up for what he later did is questionable but some degree of respect is deserved.

[charliepanayi]

Say what you will about the lack of plot in a Michael Bay film, but the man knows how to direct actions scenes. That's a talent sorely lacking in Hollywood right now, replaced by shaking cameras and general incoherence.

Yeah, mainly in Michael Bay films!
Michael Bay films have action sequences far more coherent than other staples such as the Borne or [recent] Bond series.

Comparing Michael Bay films (bar The Rock) to the Bourne series is like comparing vomit to champagne.

[Psychotic]

Comparing Michael Bay films (bar The Rock) to the Bourne series is like comparing vomit to champagne.Yeah, I agree. It's like comparing Arsene Wenger to Kenny Dalglish.

I HATE Michael Bay! Here's a gallery of my pain.

Me watching The Rock:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e373/photobucketamazingness/de4txx.gif

This is me and I'm not too pleased about Armaggedon:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e373/photobucketamazingness/108bksg.gif

Here I am enjoying Pearl Harbor:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e373/photobucketamazingness/nx46c8.gif

Here's me watching Transformers:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e373/photobucketamazingness/tJOsJ.gif

This is me and some friends when Revenge of the Fallen came out. They were pretty pleased.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e373/photobucketamazingness/1zbvxw0.gif

Here I am, complaining to a very handsome usher at the cinema, asking for my money back. He told me to piss off.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e373/photobucketamazingness/28sbzpi.gif

[Rocket Edge]

Imagining Wenger asking for money back like that at the cinema made me lol xD

[charliepanayi]

You're paying the bill for sewing my sides back together Psychotic!

[DMKA]

Call me sentimental but I watch a movie for the story, not to see a new line of merchandise for the Christmas season. :colbert:

You're doing it wrong.


And let's not quote box office grosses for the Transformers franchise, it's far too depressing to see.

I actually like the fact that not everyone takes themselves so seriously that every film has to be The Black Swan or Schindler's List to be considered worthy of substancial profit.

I mean the first Transformers was alright but the second one was probably one of the worst films I've ever seen, but I still sat back in the theater with my friends and a few mixed drinks and had a blast.

[Slothy]

Say what you will about the lack of plot in a Michael Bay film, but the man knows how to direct actions scenes. That's a talent sorely lacking in Hollywood right now, replaced by shaking cameras and general incoherence.

Yep, he directed the action in the original Transformers so well that I couldn't tell one visually incoherent machines ass from another. Seriously, any talent the man had dried up years ago and I have absolutely no problem saying that the action in both Transformers was at least every bit as incoherent as the last two Bourne films, Quantum of Solace, and everything else to utilize quick cuts and shaky cameras lately. Although that may actually be a bit generous since the Transformers in those movies are so poorly designed visually that they're hard to tell apart in actions scenes. Less mechanical mess and stronger silhouettes would have helped tremendously, but that's getting way off topic.

As for Arnie, I'm iffy about another Terminator movie in general, and moreso about him trying to play a Terminator what, 26 or 27 years later? He past his prime quite some time ago and the only way I see this even remotely working is if he's playing a character other than a Terminator. But that'd still be wierd to me, even if it was something like him playing the human template for the Terminator model.

[sharkythesharkdogg]

Say what you will about the lack of plot in a Michael Bay film, but the man knows how to direct actions scenes. That's a talent sorely lacking in Hollywood right now, replaced by shaking cameras and general incoherence.

I would have conceded that point up to Revenge of the Fallen. What the hell were 2/3's of those explosions even for?!?!



Call me sentimental but I watch a movie for the story, not to see a new line of merchandise for the Christmas season. :colbert:

Call me simple but I watch a movie for the explosions and action, hence why the expendables was a very entertaining movie to me.

You're simple. ;) :p Really though, if that's you're deal, here's the most relevant to you series Bay has directed. They fit him perfectly. Babes? check. Cars? check. Helicopters and Planes? check. Explosions? check. Story? .........do explosions count?

Michael Bay-Victoria Secret Ad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmNEG8IFd_Y) It's hilarious, but not work safe.


Michael Bay did direct The Rock as well as the Bad Boy films. Whether that makes up for what he later did is questionable but some degree of respect is deserved.

I'll give you The Rock. Bad Boys.....it wasn't bad. Just a middle of the road buddy cop, action flick.

[Del Murder]

I actually liked T4 (T3 sucked though). I'm not really excited about Arnold coming back. He's way old and probably out of shape. What they could do is use images from T1 and T2 to make a digital Arnold and just have him do the voice over.

[Pheesh]

Someone actually said a Michael Bay film was better than any of the Bourne movies? Michael Bay's films could only be compared to that series in the same sentence if you were talking about the blood stained excrement that a Bourne film passed after being forced to sit through a Michael Bay movie... And even then it would be a long, complicated sentence.

[charliepanayi]

Call me sentimental but I watch a movie for the story, not to see a new line of merchandise for the Christmas season. :colbert:

You're doing it wrong.


And let's not quote box office grosses for the Transformers franchise, it's far too depressing to see.

I actually like the fact that not everyone takes themselves so seriously that every film has to be The Black Swan or Schindler's List to be considered worthy of substancial profit.

I mean the first Transformers was alright but the second one was probably one of the worst films I've ever seen, but I still sat back in the theater with my friends and a few mixed drinks and had a blast.

Yeah, because what I was saying there was 'summer blockbusters and action films are all bad, everything should be arthouse cinema'

And if I want action or a stereotypical popcorn movie, I'll watch Die Hard or Con Air or The Dark Knight or the first two Terminator films etc, I won't watch Transformers 2 as its offensive and just plain awful on every level.

[sharkythesharkdogg]

Call me sentimental but I watch a movie for the story, not to see a new line of merchandise for the Christmas season. :colbert:

You're doing it wrong.


And let's not quote box office grosses for the Transformers franchise, it's far too depressing to see.

I actually like the fact that not everyone takes themselves so seriously that every film has to be The Black Swan or Schindler's List to be considered worthy of substancial profit.

I mean the first Transformers was alright but the second one was probably one of the worst films I've ever seen, but I still sat back in the theater with my friends and a few mixed drinks and had a blast.

That's a negative Ghost Writer. I love a good action flick. It doesn't have to be crazy deep and artsy to be good.

The first two Terminators had a good story to get me interested, and engaging actors/actresses to flesh it out. Who doesn't like the original Star Wars trilogy?

Then you have films like Death Race 2000. They will only become popular 20 years from now when they're considered campy and retro. Just like the original Death Race.

[Hollycat]

T1 is a classic
T2 was wondeful
T3 is meh
T4 is MEEEEEEEHHHHH I CAN WATCH THIS...MAYBE...TO THE END...PERHAPS...I THINK

I can't imagine a fifth film being anything thing but awful.

Perhaps they should have Michael Bay or Roland Emmerich direct it. They're pretty good at squeezing the most entertainment out of an all but non-existent, terrible plot via over the top explosions.

Its this way with all good movies:
shrek 1- awesome
shrek 2- ok...
shrek 3- wth, this is the same bad guy from the last one...
shrek 4- ..... ..... wtf. refund please

spiderman- ok, this is watchable.
spiderman 2- this is ok, not bad
spiderman 3- OE :bou::bou::bou::bou:, how is even remotely good????

pirates otc- great film
pirates 2 .... ok, not bad at all
pirates 3.... actually this isnt a good example, this is a great film too.

you see what I mean though

[NorthernChaosGod]

Call me sentimental but I watch a movie for the story, not to see a new line of merchandise for the Christmas season. :colbert:

You're doing it wrong.


And let's not quote box office grosses for the Transformers franchise, it's far too depressing to see.

I actually like the fact that not everyone takes themselves so seriously that every film has to be The Black Swan or Schindler's List to be considered worthy of substancial profit.

I mean the first Transformers was alright but the second one was probably one of the worst films I've ever seen, but I still sat back in the theater with my friends and a few mixed drinks and had a blast.

Yeah, because what I was saying there was 'summer blockbusters and action films are all bad, everything should be arthouse cinema'

And if I want action or a stereotypical popcorn movie, I'll watch Die Hard or Con Air or The Dark Knight or the first two Terminator films etc, I won't watch Transformers 2 as its offensive and just plain awful on every level.
How are you even mentioning TDK and the original Terminator movies in the same sentence as the other two? TDK and T1 and T2 are all brilliant movies.

[charliepanayi]

So is Die Hard.

[NorthernChaosGod]

Die Hard is cool, but not T2 cool.

[Hollycat]

Die Hard is cool, but not T2 cool.

not the little kid, he made me wanna blow his brains out. with a grenade launcher. from space.

[sharkythesharkdogg]

So on the coolness scale, where does "The Professional" fall in place? I love that movie. jus' sayin'.

[Jiro]

The best bit of this thread is seeing Bolton 2-1 Arsenal.

[NorthernChaosGod]

So on the coolness scale, where does "The Professional" fall in place? I love that movie. jus' sayin'.

Awesome as balls.

[charliepanayi]

The best bit of this thread is seeing Bolton 2-1 Arsenal.

It is impressive trolling indeed :D

[Psychotic]

The best bit of this thread is seeing Bolton 2-1 Arsenal.

It is impressive trolling indeed :DD'awww, was that a compliment? :kiss:

I missed you in the football thread. Okay, there, I said it. :colbert:

[Ouch!]

Someone actually said a Michael Bay film was better than any of the Bourne movies? Michael Bay's films could only be compared to that series in the same sentence if you were talking about the blood stained excrement that a Bourne film passed after being forced to sit through a Michael Bay movie... And even then it would be a long, complicated sentence.
Don't take the quote out of context. The Bourne films are far and away better than anything Michael Bay has done, but the way the action sequences (barring maybe the car chases) are shot are incoherent messes.

[Pheesh]

I don't care, he beats the :bou::bou::bou::bou: out of a guy with a rolled up magazine AND a pen.

[Shiny]

Say what you will about the lack of plot in a Michael Bay film, but the man knows how to direct actions scenes. That's a talent sorely lacking in Hollywood right now, replaced by shaking cameras and general incoherence.

Not really. Action films are easy to market. They pretty much direct and produce themselves. Especially if they are action franchises starring bankable people like Arnold.

[Loony BoB]

I just don't get why anyone is comparing giant robots that turn into cars to vaguely realistic supposed "action" movies. It's like saying that True Lies should have had serious acting and less comedy. I mean, what? They're not even close to the same. I would say that Transformers is an action-comedy while Bourne/TDK are action-drama. One is there for fun, the other is for serious. Perhaps some people here are just too serious about their movies to be prepared for fun.

Having said that, Michael Bay is not an actor that I would want to direct action-drama movies. Pearl Harbour? Urgh. Likewise, though, I don't believe that the directors of the great movies of our time would have done that much better with Transformers. Transformers aren't about insane twists and awesome themes and Oscar-winning actors. It's about big explosions, awesome special effects and hotties.

Waiting for Shiny to reply to thread. :D

[charliepanayi]

Transformers aren't about insane twists and awesome themes and Oscar-winning actors. It's about big explosions, awesome special effects and hotties.

And rather cringeworthy racial stereotypes. Still they've ditched Megan Fox so it's not all bad!

[Mo-Nercy]

Transformers aren't about insane twists and awesome themes and Oscar-winning actors. It's about big explosions, awesome special effects and hotties.

And rather cringeworthy racial stereotypes. Still they've ditched Megan Fox so it's not all bad!
Poor Jazz :(

[Hollycat]

Transformers aren't about insane twists and awesome themes and Oscar-winning actors. It's about big explosions, awesome special effects and hotties.

And rather cringeworthy racial stereotypes. Still they've ditched Megan Fox so it's not all bad!
Poor Jazz :(

Jazzmarazz

Ok anyways, my teacher worked on the designs for the new transformers, how cool is that

[Del Murder]

Say what you will about the lack of plot in a Michael Bay film, but the man knows how to direct actions scenes. That's a talent sorely lacking in Hollywood right now, replaced by shaking cameras and general incoherence.

Not really. Action films are easy to market. They pretty much direct and produce themselves. Especially if they are action franchises starring bankable people like Arnold.
Well, I think that's his point. They are so easy to make that anyone with a shaky hand can make an action film, while well-directed action sequences are harder to come by.