Nudes

[Yar]

[1:35:10] Shiny: how many eoffers have you seen naked
[1:35:18] Justy: in person?
[1:35:26] Shiny: O_O
[1:35:29] Shiny: both...
[1:35:45] Justy: 2?
[1:36:18] Shiny: both in person or online
[1:36:19] Justy: yes
[1:36:24] Justy: wait
[1:36:26] Justy: what
[1:36:26] Justy: no
[1:36:27] Shiny: hmmm
[1:36:27] Justy: xD
[1:36:31] Justy: just pix
[1:36:43] Justy: and vids
[1:36:53] Shiny: i've unfortunately seen 4 too i believe
[1:36:56] Shiny: 1 in person
[1:37:02] Shiny: D:

So how many have you seen? :o


Please... no pix here. Don't be a moron. Nudes of GuardianXIII can be forwarded to my inbox kthx

[Shlup]

Uugghhh... This thread is not pleasant.

Zero. Zero forever.

[Bunny]

Are we talking full on in the buff or partial?

2 if the former, 6-7 if the latter.

[Hollycat]

4. Not counting accidentals during searches. I once typed in mountains in Google images and it brought up boobs.

3 of those would be things like when I was around 3, me and my cousin would take baths together, and once someones bathing suit came off in the pool. the other one would be a roomate of mine who refused to put on clothes. we were roomates for less than an hour for that reason

[Bunny]

3 of those would be things like when I was around 3, me and my cousin would take baths together, and once someones bathing suit came off in the pool. the other one would be a roomate of mine who refused to put on clothes. we were roomates for less than an hour for that reason

EoFFers, dorkbag.

[blackmage_nuke]

Yea "accidental"

I dont think Ive ever seen an eoff member fully naked

[Hollycat]

eoffers...
all of them. I am spying on you!

0 now and forever

[NorthernChaosGod]

All of them.

[Rantz]

Do you count me? Cause I've seen me. Ohhhh yes I have. ;) ;) :smug: ;) :jokey: :smug:

[LunarWeaver]

I won't be corrupted! http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/LunarWeaver/Near_gif_by_edb23.gif

[Alive-Cat]

This is such a vulgar thread; I return from my travels expecting to laugh aloud with mirth and merriment and this is what I get? This!?!? :nonono:

[Loony BoB]

Hmm. Do I include family? :p I'll leave them out for this. I'll also leave out myself (xD @ Rantz).

At least four girls and one guy, if we go by "dick for guys, boobs or vagina for girls". I'm struggling to remember who I've seen partially nude in my earlier EoFF years. I'm sure there was one or two, but I'm at a real loss for who they were.

[G13]

Nudes of GuardianXIII can be forwarded to my inbox kthx

I'm starting to think you only like me for my body. :|

Three. Two full on, one partial.

[Pheesh]

Dear lord D:

Zero kthxbye

[I Don't Need A Name]

At least four girls and one guy, if we go by "dick for guys, boobs or vagina for girls". I'm struggling to remember who I've seen partially nude in my earlier EoFF years. I'm sure there was one or two, but I'm at a real loss for who they were.

Why does this make the time people came to visit you and sk seem like it turned into an orgy? (Paul probably only filmed, hence only one dick)

And none for myself.

[escobert]

One.

[Laddy]

Why haven't I been informed of the apparent plethora of nudies swarming EoFF?

None.

[Jiro]

Just the one. I never did see Freed Penis.

That's a pun.

[Loony BoB]

At least four girls and one guy, if we go by "dick for guys, boobs or vagina for girls". I'm struggling to remember who I've seen partially nude in my earlier EoFF years. I'm sure there was one or two, but I'm at a real loss for who they were.

Why does this make the time people came to visit you and sk seem like it turned into an orgy? (Paul probably only filmed, hence only one dick)

And none for myself.
Sadly, the male I have seen nude is PiP, who was banned after he posted an image of his own dick on the forums. One of the girls I have seen an image of them topless online (and it was not her intention for me to see her that way), one of them I saw topless in person and the others are an ex-girlfriend and my current girlfriend. No orgies here. :p Sorry to disappoint!

[I Don't Need A Name]

Oh whaaaat. All my dreams and fantasies are now dashed!

[Crop]

What? Zero!
I would never want to see any of your pasty, clammy bodies.

[Jiro]

Wait make that two, I forgot one.

[DMKA]

One. A Canadian.

[Shoeberto]

You people are weird!

Though in retrospect I think I saw PiP's penis, too. Yuck.

[Psychotic]

I don't know, but I'm in double figures.

I hate myself. And all of you. Especially Aaron Freed.

[Rantz]

Damn, Psy xD What's your male to female ratio?

[Shattered Dreamer]

I've seen no EoFFer's nude but to be honest if other forum members just randomly sent me nudes of themselves female or not I'd be weirded out :lol:

[Peegee]

you've seen 2 justy? that's 1 more than I have.

that's right. I've seen nudes of an eoffer. I won't say who but you probably can guess given knowledge of the things I do online.

edit: WAIT I HAVE A VAGUE MEMORY OF SEEING ANOTHER EOFFER NUDE AND ANOTHER ONE.

so I've seen 3!

[sharkythesharkdogg]

This is why I'm usually such a stranger around these parts.

It's especially bad around the holidays with people hanging mistletoe off the nether regions, and telling me they want to get spanked with holly branches 'cause they've been naughty.

I don't remember Mrs. Claus's outfit being so revealing or having so much leather. Or Mr. Claus for that matter. :(

[Remon]

0. It will stay that way,

[Peegee]

Justy you should cancel your mtl trip and visit pg

[Yar]

that's right. I've seen nudes of an eoffer. I won't say who but you probably can guess given knowledge of the things I do online.
This is an honest guess and I'm not trying to just be a douchebag but is it Ceej?

[Peegee]

that's right. I've seen nudes of an eoffer. I won't say who but you probably can guess given knowledge of the things I do online.
This is an honest guess and I'm not trying to just be a douchebag but is it Ceej?

No I've only seen females and I won't tell you even on msn which they are. One I didn't want to see. One I saw by mistake and I won't give any details on the 3rd.

edit

[Laddy]

Send me nudes plz kthxbye.

[Peegee]

Send me nudes plz kthxbye.

visit me instead :D

[escobert]

Oh I forgot about PiP. So two for me. but, the other was my gf at the time so that doesn't really count :p

[Old Manus]

I was ready to say no until BoB reminded me of PiP's erect manhood (complete with phantom hand cupping his right buttcheek). My mind had been clean for what must have been five years.

[Shoeberto]

I was ready to say no until BoB reminded me of PiP's erect manhood (complete with phantom hand cupping his right buttcheek). My mind had been clean for what must have been five years.
The worst part is realizing that you saw a different picture of his cock than I did. I bet EoFF has collectively seen more angles of PiP's penis than he has.

[NorthernChaosGod]

Who is PiP?

[Freya]

Who is PiP?

Noob

I've seen a few :monster:

[Shoeberto]

I was gonna mock you for being too new for it, but his heyday was '05-'06 so your join date indicates you were at least registered. I can summarize the incidents surrounding him pretty briefly, though: He was really cocky.

It works on multiple levels.

[Shorty]

Two IRL that I can think of.

I've seen Freed peen. And the nudes Mandy and Knox had uploaded.

Julian tried to disrobe in front of Pontus and I at the zoo. Thank god we stopped him.

[Rantz]

Yeah, your hungry stare sure did the trick in getting him to stop.

I think I've seen three fully nude and three partially, to give a serious answer.

[Shorty]

I wasn't staring hungrily. :aimmad:

[NorthernChaosGod]

You totally were.

[Levian]

Three full on, two partial.

Could've been three partials if I had just opened a door rather than posting at these forums!

[escobert]

why is thee so much nudity being shown to each other at EoFF? besides accidentally clicking a link to PiP dick and living with Liz I would never have seen a EoFFer nude xD

[Cuchulainn]

None. This statistic will never change.

[NorthernChaosGod]

None. This statistic will never change.

I thought we were going drinking?

[fire_of_avalon]

One. A Canadian.
At first I was completely mystified as to how so many people here have seen so many other people naked because I never, ever did.

And then I remembered I totally did.

[G13]

Oh god, we're all forgetting Raistkini. Add another partial to my list.

[NorthernChaosGod]

Wes was tastefully covered up.

[G13]

I think our definitions of "tastefully" are two very different things.

[NorthernChaosGod]

Probably. :colbert:

[Raistlin]

I was fully covered! You couldn't even see my nipples.

Excluding things I wish I had never seen, four -- one being in person. Including them, five. I had avoided such unpleasantness for years, but eventually one Horror found me.

[Jiro]

I don't count Wes, he wasn't that naked. It was disturbing, but it wasn't nudes.

[escobert]

yeah that was lulz not omg pip dick

[I Took the Red Pill]

was gonna say zero til i was reminded of Freed and PiP cox. thanks for the repressed memories.

[Loony BoB]

Ah, geez, I forgot about blox. :( THANKS FOR THE REMINDER SARAH. >=(

[Shiny]

Do you count me? Cause I've seen me. Ohhhh yes I have. ;) ;) :smug: ;) :jokey: :smug:

I'm totally counting myself otherwise it would only be 100.

In all seriousness

The Man
Giga Guess
Justy
Jowy (his butt on el jay)

I'm not disclosing the other one.

[escobert]

Oh yeah I forgot about Jowys butt on LJ xD

[Yar]

Do you count me? Cause I've seen me. Ohhhh yes I have. ;) ;) :smug: ;) :jokey: :smug:

I'm totally counting myself otherwise it would only be 100.

In all seriousness

The Man
Giga Guess
Justy
Jowy (his butt on el jay)

I'm not disclosing the other one.wtf when did you see me naked? :freak:

[Cuchulainn]

None. This statistic will never change.

I thought we were going drinking?

I did not sign up for naked drinking.

[Jiro]

A drop touches his lips and he just loses his pants. Mexicans, can't hold their liquor :monster:

[Yar]

And another thing, I wish people would stop using my full name in this damn thread. :aimmad: Nudity is one thing, but I don't need stalkers.

[Hollycat]

Jowy. Im in your shower. right. now. mwahah

[Peegee]

why the hell are there nudes of justy?

Also @Sarah - did you see the same Mandy noods as me?

[Shorty]

I am betting they probably were the same, yes.

[Peegee]

I am betting they probably were the same, yes.

just fyi I saw them on 4chan.

I am not sure what I am doing when I post these posts that I am posting. Feel free to stop me.

http://www.profilebrand.com/funny-pictures/category/cats/608_stop-posting.gif

[NorthernChaosGod]

None. This statistic will never change.

I thought we were going drinking?

I did not sign up for naked drinking.

Oh well. :monster:

[Shiny]

Do you count me? Cause I've seen me. Ohhhh yes I have. ;) ;) :smug: ;) :jokey: :smug:

I'm totally counting myself otherwise it would only be 100.

In all seriousness

The Man
Giga Guess
Justin "gurrrl" [surname]
Jowy (his butt on el jay)

I'm not disclosing the other one.wtf when did you see me naked? :freak:

You were naked enough that it counts. The towel barely covered anything. -_-

[Peegee]

Do you count me? Cause I've seen me. Ohhhh yes I have. ;) ;) :smug: ;) :jokey: :smug:

I'm totally counting myself otherwise it would only be 100.

In all seriousness

The Man
Giga Guess
Justin "gurrrl" [surname]
Jowy (his butt on el jay)

I'm not disclosing the other one.wtf when did you see me naked? :freak:

You were naked enough that it counts. The towel barely covered anything. -_-

oh come on it's not that big.

[escobert]

why the hell are you video chatting with someone in a towel in the first place?
:bou::bou::bou::bou: why are you all video chatting anyways!?

[Loony BoB]

Just remembered I've seen images of one more female EoFFer topless but with a hand covering nipples. So that's something like five girls, two guys.

[Bunny]

Where was I when all the whores were running amok?

[Peegee]

Where was I when all the whores were running amok?

>Aug 2006

Let's just say that it was before my time. Or very close to my time before I was a reg.

[Madonna]

Oh man, who have I not seen naked?

[Hollycat]

Oh man, who have I not seen naked?

me

[escobert]

No, he has.

[G13]

Do you count me? Cause I've seen me. Ohhhh yes I have. ;) ;) :smug: ;) :jokey: :smug:

I'm totally counting myself otherwise it would only be 100.

In all seriousness

The Man
Giga Guess
Justin "gurrrl" [surname]
Jowy (his butt on el jay)

I'm not disclosing the other one.wtf when did you see me naked? :freak:

You were naked enough that it counts. The towel barely covered anything. -_-

You saw that too, eh?

[Yar]

/smug

[NorthernChaosGod]

Ya'll slutty.

[Jiro]

Why was he wearing a towel for you guys and not me?

[NorthernChaosGod]

Because he likes you more.

[theundeadhero]

Not a single person <_<

[Jiro]

Suuuuuuuure

[Peegee]

Justin is never going to visit me cuz he knows we'll just get naked within 5 minutes.

[NorthernChaosGod]

That long, PG?

[Peegee]

That long, PG?

don't put it in all the way

[NorthernChaosGod]

Too much for you?

EDIT: Who the fuck did that? :nonono:

[Shoeberto]

Too much for you?

One time I was drunk at a party and took my pants off. Anyway I got excited, and as I was running around outside my flaccid penis flopped out all over the place. On the plus side, only one girl laughed at me!
Dude, that means she was totally wet for you. I hope you tapped that in front of everyone.

[Peegee]

Too much for you?

One time I was drunk at a party and took my pants off. Anyway I got excited, and as I was running around outside my flaccid penis flopped out all over the place. On the plus side, only one girl laughed at me!
Dude, that means she was totally wet for you. I hope you tapped that in front of everyone.

seconded. opinion of juli dropping in 3..2...

[NorthernChaosGod]

Whomever is editing my posts is a douche. :colbert:

EDIT: :doublecolbert:

[Shoeberto]

Ah, a gentleman who tastes the forbidden fruit in private. I can allow for that. I'm sure the love you made that night would have been like listening to an entire choir of angels singing. While they were fucking one another.

[Yar]

Whomever is editing my posts is a douche. :colbert:

Also, Stu, she was my mom so of course I didn't tap that in front of everybody. It's best to do that sort of thing in private. Give me some credit, broduce aisle.I just have to quote so that even if he edits it it's still there. :)

[Peegee]

Whomever is editing my posts is a douche. :colbert:

a likely excuse floppy mc penisburger

[Jiro]

This is my favourite thing ever.

[G13]

I'm flattered that you thought I was the one doing this, Julian. :)

[Jiro]

I think it's actually a group effort personally.

[CimminyCricket]

I've seen pictures a couple of years ago, but I've been stranded on an island away from any of the EoFFers to be able to attend a meeting where nudity might happen.

Edit: One person

[Shiny]

why the hell are you video chatting with someone in a towel in the first place?
:bou::bou::bou::bou: why are you all video chatting anyways!?

I wasn't video chatting. It was a picture. I've never video chatted with a person with a towel. That's awkward as hell. I also don't video chat anymore. The last time I did it was a four way with Loony, Levian, and smitten. ^_~

[Jiro]

Hot.

[NorthernChaosGod]

I'm flattered that you thought I was the one doing this, Julian. :)

It said "broduce aisle. It made sense. :(

[Psychotic]

Also, this one time I was at the beach and went for a swim, as y'do. Unfortunately, a huge wave came rolling in and swept my speedo clean off! :( I had to run up the beach with my flaccid penis swinging about all over the place and several old ladies saw. Long story short, my next visit to Grandma's was very awkward.hahaha Julian what the fuck man. Did that actually happen?

[Peegee]

Also, this one time I was at the beach and went for a swim, as y'do. Unfortunately, a huge wave came rolling in and swept my speedo clean off! :( I had to run up the beach with my flaccid penis swinging about all over the place and several old ladies saw. Long story short, my next visit to Grandma's was very awkward.hahaha Julian what the smurf man. Did that actually happen?

Yep. He has pics on his fb want link?

[Melissaur]

What a bunch of weirdos... I have seen 2, both guys, both pretty impressive. But I wont say who...

Just kidding I lied, I have 3. I forgot Ravi registered xD

[Iceglow]

I've seen a fair few nude, or partially nude. Some on the net in pics or on cam and some I've seen in person. Some I wish I had never seen! Do we count my crazy ex who registered like 20 accounts before? If yes then I can rest safe in the knowledge that the number of girls is only 1 behind the number of guys (if we count Weskini if not I can have a 1:1 ratio which aint great considering I'm straight but sometimes the guys here just INSIST on getting naked or trying to around me, must be the animal magnetism I emit)

I'm also shocked and appalled at Julian, bro...you let the world down in not tapping your mother right there and then in front of that entire party. Hell knows any bro one of us would have done so like a true champion bro.

[Peegee]

I've seen a fair few nude, or partially nude. Some on the net in pics or on cam and some I've seen in person. Some I wish I had never seen! Do we count my crazy ex who registered like 20 accounts before? If yes then I can rest safe in the knowledge that the number of girls is only 1 behind the number of guys (if we count Weskini if not I can have a 1:1 ratio which aint great considering I'm straight but sometimes the guys here just INSIST on getting naked or trying to around me, must be the animal magnetism I emit)

I'm also shocked and appalled at Julian, bro...you let the world down in not tapping your mother right there and then in front of that entire party. Hell knows any bro one of us would have done so like a true champion bro.

It's okay I'll tap his momma for him. We'll name our lovechild Steve Bromance Julian Rivera Kishi.

[Jentleness]

As far as I can recall I have not seen any nude shots of anyone on EoFF. The only one I've seen naked is Aya-MaiSheik (http://forums.eyesonff.com/members/34965.html), mostly because she was born that way! :hello:

[Peegee]

As far as I can recall I have not seen any nude shots of anyone on EoFF. The only one I've seen naked is Aya-MaiSheik (http://forums.eyesonff.com/members/34965.html), mostly because she was born that way! :hello:


omg your daughter is a member D:

[Jiro]

You're late to the party peeg. Her daughter is awesome artist!

[Melissaur]

So I lied again. I'm at 4...

[Levian]

Anybody want up their number? Try to recognize me at chatroulette. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v17/levia/16.gif

[Jiro]

How about you just send me pix Lev baby

[Jentleness]

As far as I can recall I have not seen any nude shots of anyone on EoFF. The only one I've seen naked is Aya-MaiSheik (http://forums.eyesonff.com/members/34965.html), mostly because she was born that way! :hello:


omg your daughter is a member D:

Duh! :D What's the matter PeeGee? Feeling old? :love:

[Roogle]

Oh, I think maybe like 10 or 11. That sounds like it is higher than everyone else. I wonder what that says about me? Ah, well...

[Peegee]

As far as I can recall I have not seen any nude shots of anyone on EoFF. The only one I've seen naked is Aya-MaiSheik (http://forums.eyesonff.com/members/34965.html), mostly because she was born that way! :hello:


omg your daughter is a member D:

Duh! :D What's the matter PeeGee? Feeling old? :love:

waaaah jam jen is mean

[Jentleness]

Awwww :( I feel old when I think of her being almost 15, I just thought you were too! :-/

[NorthernChaosGod]

Awwww :( I feel old when I think of her being almost 15, I just thought you were too! :-/
http://images.wikia.com/wikiality/images/8/89/Pl-pedo-bear.png

[Melissaur]

You would.

[Jentleness]

Julian just doesn't understand that PeeGee and I were really good chat buddies when I was here between 2003 and 2005. In fact, I remember receiving a letter in the snail mail from him, so I know he knew about my family and everything that was happening at the time. If PeeGee ever actually did chat with Jolene (who was 7 when I signed up) it was always under my watchful eye so, of course, nothing pedo-anything was ever said. If anything, he'd ask her if she liked pie! :love:

[Hollycat]

If anything, he'd ask her if she liked pie! :love:

Thats slang for a womans genitals.
HES A PEDO!
or he likes pie. I like cheesecake better than pie, although I guess its also a type of pie.

[Peegee]

I never did any such thung! how are you. she has to be at least 18 . yeah.. 18!

[Rye]

I'm probably near double digits.

[Jentleness]

If anything, he'd ask her if she liked pie! :love:

Thats slang for a womans genitals.
HES A PEDO!
or he likes pie. I like cheesecake better than pie, although I guess its also a type of pie.

HC, don't libel me, especially concerning my daughter. I would never let anyone prey upon her.



I never did any such thung! how are you. she has to be at least 18 . yeah.. 18!
You didn't and I am sorry someone was able to make what I said into something it wasn't! :(

[Hollycat]

I was joking, you know I wouldnt insult you on purpose

[NorthernChaosGod]

Julian just doesn't understand that PeeGee and I were really good chat buddies when I was here between 2003 and 2005. In fact, I remember receiving a letter in the snail mail from him, so I know he knew about my family and everything that was happening at the time. If PeeGee ever actually did chat with Jolene (who was 7 when I signed up) it was always under my watchful eye so, of course, nothing pedo-anything was ever said. If anything, he'd ask her if she liked pie! :love:

I wasn't calling PG Pedobear. :p

[Jentleness]

Julian just doesn't understand that PeeGee and I were really good chat buddies when I was here between 2003 and 2005. In fact, I remember receiving a letter in the snail mail from him, so I know he knew about my family and everything that was happening at the time. If PeeGee ever actually did chat with Jolene (who was 7 when I signed up) it was always under my watchful eye so, of course, nothing pedo-anything was ever said. If anything, he'd ask her if she liked pie! :love:

I wasn't calling PG Pedobear. :p

Then I'm not sure what you are suggesting, except for maybe you think I am molesting my daughter. I'm not really sure how pointing out that Jolene was born nude could be so badly misinterpreted. I am sorry I said anything. :(

[NorthernChaosGod]

I'm just kidding. :(

[Melissaur]

Julian is pedobear and he approves that message, Is what he is saying.

[Peegee]

Julian just doesn't understand that PeeGee and I were really good chat buddies when I was here between 2003 and 2005. In fact, I remember receiving a letter in the snail mail from him, so I know he knew about my family and everything that was happening at the time. If PeeGee ever actually did chat with Jolene (who was 7 when I signed up) it was always under my watchful eye so, of course, nothing pedo-anything was ever said. If anything, he'd ask her if she liked pie! :love:

I wasn't calling PG Pedobear. :p can I have your daughter's AIM?


Quoting this before Julie can edit it out

[Loony BoB]

I think we can stop the pedo-related talk when discussing a member's daughter who is also a member. No more pedo-talk here, thankyou.

Any further posts should be on the original topic.

[Jentleness]

I think we can stop the pedo-related talk when discussing a member's daughter who is also a member. No more pedo-talk here, thankyou.

Any further posts should be on the original topic.
Seriously, thank you, Daniel. I tried to shut it down myself, but apparently not everyone got the hint :-/

[Peegee]

Well in that case

I try to avoid huge EoFF meetups, but I do meet EoFFers every so often. Judging from this thread it looks like if I visit certain members (psy) i should just show up naked. amirite?

[~*~Celes~*~]

just one fully nude that i can recall

[Peegee]

a certain pikachu asked me if i saw shlupduck naked and i was so shocked i was glad i came home drunk to find it on my msn with the person offline.

edit: i'm not drunk enough - i think pikachu confused mandy with mandee. so false alarm

[Yar]

I'm sure Pikachu's confusion is justifiable. Why are you drinking on a Tuesday? Are you becoming me?

[NorthernChaosGod]

Or Cuch.

[Peegee]

I'm sure Pikachu's confusion is justifiable. Why are you drinking on a Tuesday? Are you becoming me?

quiet.

Pikachu said 'mandee' in the offline message. Mandee is shlupduck. mandy is ... you know. mandy.

[Loony BoB]

I believe the username you are looking for is 'Miriamel'.

[Rocket Edge]

Christ, the lot of you are horny as fuck.

[Loony BoB]

Just because we've seen people nude does not make us horny. Trust me, PiPdick is something I would happily scrap from my memory for all time.

[Melissaur]

I have not seen PiP dick. xD Though with they way you all are talking, I guess that's a good thing?

[Peegee]

pics or it didn't happen

[Hollycat]

PiPs or it didn't happen

[Jiro]

I cannot think of anyone who seriously wants to see more PiP.

[Psychotic]

Everyone wants to see more PiP. Shame on all of you.

He will inevitably read this thread and provide us with another blast, but you know what? I hope he doesn't. None of you are worthy. :colbert:

[Jiro]

Fucking phew, I'm glad I'm not worthy.

[Iceglow]

I'll live being unworthy, it's better than being worthy and seeing more PiP dick.

[Melissaur]

Now I'm curious enough to want to see what all the fuss is about.

[Hollycat]

Im imagining PiP is a turtle or something even though he apparently is a member or something? is that weird?

[Madonna]

Yeah, sure, that is cool if you imagine something like this

http://vignettegrimoire.com/_lynx/long-turtle-neck.jpg

but with a hand cupping the back.

[Iceglow]

and smaller, definitely smaller.